Faulty Sega CD Repair - Retro Console Restoration
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It's worth mentioning that the only thing I really did with this system, was replace the fuse. This was one of my early repairs, and I had the "bright" idea to use a socket for the fuse for easier swapping.
I didn't have a Sega CD game at the time, so stored it away. Eventually forgot about it, until I saw it again while moving rooms. Since I didn't have a ton of time, I sent it to Borderline for him to mess with further.
Glad to see you got it working though! It was entertaining to watch the whole process!
Thank you once again for your very generous donation(s) bud. I will cherish this ugly duckling and love it long time :P
@@BorderlineOCD hahaha! Glad to see that you're going to get some enjoyment out of it!
As for the Sega CD Game situation, nothing a spindle of CD-Rs can't fix ;)
There's nothing wrong with using a socketed fuse, just as long as it's done nicely. I often add a socketed fuse to Sega CD's when repairing since they tend to blow fairly often. Just makes it a lot easier to do the swap in the future if needed.
The Sega cd has no copy protection, you could have downloaded a disc image and used a cdr.
@@killerbee2562A lot of sega CDs have disc drives that are worn out just enough that they will play real CDs but not CDRs, so while it's a useful test it also won't necessarily tell you the same result.
Having a burned sega CD game, a burned audio CD, and a pressed audio CD is probably enough though, without needing a pressed sega CD game.
Good catch on that magnetic spindle assembly.
Thanks. It was a lucky find. Very easy to miss.
Excelente vídeo.. I know I have a megadrive and many games and a original megadrive joystick .. Nead to find the time and got and find it
For discolored plastic scratches, you can hit them with the heat gun (or hot air rework station) and the discolouration will go away. The scratches will still be present physically, they just won't be all white and discolored. ✌🏻
I totally understand your frustration with the optical drives. I’ve been trying to repair a Dreamcast drive for some time now, and I probably will need to change a few capacitors. Great content, as always!
Thank you my man.
Dreamcast optical drive, now that’s a temperamental beast
my PS1's optical drive totally died on me. i just got it modded with the xstation optical drive emulator so i can replace those discs with a single micro SD card
@@pentiummmx2294 nice, there is the same possibility for DC, called GDEMU. The only problem I see with it, is that I still have several discs. As soon as I would emulate the drive, these discs will turn into collectible items. IMO it's a shame that they cannot be played anymore.
Some people also like the "authentic" drive sounds, but I think this is going to far =)
Imagine cumming on a Dreamcast optical drive, few people would understand
Great seeing a positive attitude when dealing with difficult repairs. That's an excellent trait to have for a repair person.
It's nice to see something like that be used so heavily. Just means it served its purpose and the owners enjoyed it thoroughly. An underappreciated console indeed.
Always great to see the game finally appear on the screen. It's motivating to see your process and that you figure out the issues in the end, though I know there can be many difficult hours getting there. You can also hope that videos like these will make it easier for others with similar issues in the future too. Nice job once again!
Much appreciated!
Great job bringing this Sega CD back to life 👍
I'm just getting into console repair (mostly just my own collection) and have found your videos to be the best out of all that I have watched. I went through & watched all of yours from the beginning.
The optical drive systems are the least appealing on my to-do list, but seeing your methods has given me confidence that I can handle it (once I finish with the cartridge based consoles. Thank you.
Glad you enjoyed the backlog bud. Thanks for the sub!
Second video I've watched now. You're patient & clever. Good stuff my man. It's a good day when you bring a relic back to life.
I've never seen how's the Sega CD looks like on the inside. It was amazing repair, YOU ARE THE MAN!!
Thanks to this video I now have a working sega CD. I know there are not a lot of videos out there on fixes but now you can add yours to the fix videos.
Thank you for this video! I too have been searching for Sega CD optical drive repair videos, and you're right, all anyone does is replace fuses.
Good job repairing the system. Dude it looks almost brand new without the scratches. Sometimes it can be frustrating, but you managed to get the job done very well.
Hope to see you fixing more consoles!
Thanks bud.
Great idea with the black trim sponge. I'm going to give it a try. I was lucky when I got a boxed SegaCD last summer and it worked fine.
Obv congrats for the optical drive. I really like your sense of detail. I also like the little sticky pad for the fuse.
Glad you got it working and another video up. I was on youtube last night looking to see if you put anymore videos up and I some how missed them
The algorithm has a love hate relationship with me :) Notifications might help if you really want to see every brain fart of a video I upload :P
Great restoration video. A lot of useful information as always. The gaming room looks awesome 🍻
Thanks bud. I'm pretty thrilled with how the game room is coming along. I'll give you guys a walkthrough once its a bit further along!
Amazing video. I love your restorations videos. Your voice is very soothing and your technique is always so... "clean", it's so satisfying to see. Shame it wasn't a fun project to you, but I'm happy that you did it anyway.
I still have a working Sega CD that, believe it or not, NEVER needed some kind of restoration. Still works perfectly. But it's the one for the Model 1 Mega Drive, that one that sits below the console and has a loading tray.
I LOVE this system, BTW (well, systems. ;) )
I miss my Genesis and Sega CD. Those were good days.
So nice to see your your success at reviving such systems. Keep it up!
Thank you!
Hello! Great video, I really enjoyed this repair, I had the same issue with the reset button on a Saturn, lost all my hairstrying to put back the rubber contact. cheers
Amazing problem solving and work!
It was a difficult repair for you but I really appreciate the fact that you show exactly what was wrong with it and after all it was worth it because you got to run in perfectly. I need to repair my Sega CD so videos like this help me so much I am very grateful thank you.
Glad it was helpful bud. Good luck repairing your system!
Nice restoration! Thanks for the video!
Excellent work. Enjoy the new system.
I think the chuck disk assembly is what my Sega CD's problem is. Mine was assembled like yours in the beginning when I bought it.
Also, on the broken rails on your Sega CD there was some square foam pads on mine. This helps to lift the optical drive. So I added some to mine to lift it.
Can't wait to see if that chuck fixes mine. Thanks!
Nice job troubleshooting all those little defects. Finding the cause of small irritating noises in particular can be hard.
My best tip for trying to bend/unbend stuff like that cable is to apply heat (within reason of course). Most flexible plastics will kind of relax with heat, so it doesn't just bend back the way it was.
Holy crap! Thanks for the paper tip! You just saved me so much time at work.
I just did the clean screen and capacitors on my Game gear. The feeling of it starting up and working perfect is the best feeling in the world.
Awesome video Borderline OCD. You sir are a top tier console restorer.
Thanks for the kind words.
Nice work as usual bud. Took a lot of patience to be gentle with that thing I'm sure. Frustration can be a real challenge to keep in check sometimes.
In any case, it turned out great, and looks infinitely better than when you got it. Well done.
Thanks very much.
Hi sir! This video is relaxing and satisfiying because of "happy end"! The pictire is nice, voce is undertandable even for not native English speaker as I am. Thank you so much for this. I wish you good luck and developing of your YT channel.
brilliant! great job. I really enjoy your videos
Another top video! Can't wait for the next one
Thank you!
Great Video. Glad to see you stick this one out and get it done ..
Thanks my man. I too am glad I persevered.
Just subbed Been watching you for 1 week now.. I pulled out my ps1 dusted it off and play the games it would read.. Been wanting to do the xstation upgrade and youre renewed my faith in a project like that!! Thanks OCD guy lol!!
I just love the sound of the model 2 Sega CD seeking a disc.
Good job on that! My first CD Walkman back in the 90s had the same sounds going on with it after a while, probably a similar problem ha but it's long gone.
As usual, very good work!
Thank you.
I just found this channel and i love it
Good job in the restoration my friend 😊
Ive got a reset button on mine that doesn’t work. Ill have to do this. Glad you figured out the flare for me!
I was looking at your old videos and saw that you were reflowing red ring of death Xbox 360s and thought that you should do more! I was thinking that you should do more because you explain very clearly about what to do, and do it the right way (not like other youtubers). I want to do the same thing too (repairing red ringed Xbox 360s). I wish all the best to you and keep it up👍
I love these video's, keep them up!
Thank you!
Everytime you make incremental progress I find it necessary to say LETS GOOOOO! Lol.
Awesome fix my friend
Thank you sir.
What a refreshing repair video, without capacitors replacement ^^
You can easily source the original fuse with serious components sellers like Mouser or Digi key. Pico II series, fast blow, made by Littlefuse.
Thanks for the tip. I shop on Mouser fairly often and will add it to the backlog.
I remember my sister getting this system back in the day after having the Megadrive (uk) and she had this amazing looking game called Road Avenger, that she loaded up and to her disappointment there was no driving the vehicle just following the bloody commands to press left or right or a specific button!
poor sis !
Your videos are really good sir
Having worked on a few Sega CDs from model 1s to model 2's, there's a certain enjoyment derived from figuring out the mechanical failures. Your rebuilding of the drive, the magnet mechanism and identifying the micro switch sensor as well as the ribbon cable obstruction will be essential knowledge to trouble shooting. It's the kind of thing few people will think of when the typical deduction is "oh, dead drive." and into the trash it goes. Learning mechanical issues is important to our hobby and it's an area not many delve into. If you want something truly heinous and complicated, dig into a model 1 Sega CD!
I have always wanted one of those first models of the mega cd for my collection, I have always believed that it looks much better than the one in the video and with its x32 forming that huge tower it must look brutal
Thanks bud. I hope it helps someone in future. I do look forward to getting my hands on a Model 1 unit at some point. From what many have shared it seems to be much more complicated and a challenging system to work on.
Another system saved from the scrap pile by identifying minor problems. I can definitely understand why this was frustrating as it's the most simple issues that can annoy when they are finally found after days of scratching your head. Also came up pretty nice considering. Great video and really enjoyed. Huge like 👍
Glad you enjoyed it, cheers.
For the plastic, you can try 303 aerospace protectant, I had some nice results in previous restorations on vintage plastics. On pretty beat up ones, I let it soak up over night, wipe the excédent and buff it up. Result isn’t perfect, but way better than it was. Plus it’s protecting the plastics for months/years to come. Adrian Black from Adrian digital basement use it too with decent results either
Excellent repair. I have two in my collection in need of fixing.. I'm just too lazy. Both have previously been opened so I know there's some kind of damage. At least I replaced the Pico fuse in the model 2.
Nice. I look forward to installing the proper fuse as well.
Damn that system has been through hell and back lol. It's almost like whoever first owned it never cared for it and then for years it was living the storage life collecting dust, bumps and scrapes. But it is a miracle that overall it still works and is salvageable.
Oh man a new repair video!
I can only stay away for so long before I come crawling back :)
Really like this channel 🙂
What an awesome fix,
Thank you, cheers.
I loved the SCD so much simply for Lunar
Doing Gods work!!
Great vid bro💯👌
Glad you enjoyed it.
Wow what an amazing repair! I wonder if I can use some of these steps on my model 1 Sega CD?
One mod I did on my MegaCD was a very simple one that's just adding 1 wire to the board, which takes the PSU input from the console switch before the 7805 (which goes all the way down to the MegaCD board already via the expansion port. It's the signal that tells the CD unit to turn on when turning on the Mega Drive), and connects it to the positive pin of the CD power socket. This allows you to power both the Mega Drive and the MegaCD from a single PSU, just plugging it into the Mega Drive, and the units are still separable and work just as before (if you plug the PSU into the MegaCD with the mod, this bypasses the power switch on the console). And for the amperage issue, I just changed the plug on a PS2 Slim PSU, which has plenty of voltage input for the 7805s inside the console and CD unit to be happy at 8.5V regulated, and gives almost 6A!! Less of a rats nest, less power bricks taking up wall sockets, and works perfect... And it's just 1 wire!!
That's cool I have the both models of Genesis and Sega CD 2 and i have the Genesis one as well
congratulation from france my friend very nice job =)
Just subscribed. Great to find more retro console repairs on youtube! Also.... @2:20 wow lol
wow that crimp tool trick for resizing screws is pretty awesome!
That button can be a pain 🤣 awesome job again and your game room is looking great!
Thank you! The room is slowly coming together. It has certainly become my happy place.
Very good job!!!
Thank you!
Wow crunchy granola 🤣 yeah not healthy.
Great job 👍
Fixing stuff is so much fun,I love the challenge.
Yeah, optical drives can be a nightmare, so far the only ones I've managed to fix had a stuck/broken gear or an out of place component.
I have a theory that there are certain things that only work on TH-cam videos. Such as tweaking the potmeter of the optical drive and it solves ALL of your disc reading errors :)
Anyways, great job, it was a very entertaining video!
PC drives aren't very hard but the one on the xbox 360 is the worst one, when I got my xbox360 slim it worked fine but it was really hot, I took it apart to clean it and replace the thermal paste, while I had it open I took apart the DVD drive to clean it, when I got the system put back together it couldn't read games and the tray wouldn't come out to let me try a different disc, I took it all back apart and put it together again, it still wouldn't work right, I bought a refurbished drive and put that in, it would not let me play any games (keys didn't match), I tried to get the keys off the old drive with my computer (to flash the new drive with them) but it wouldn't let me do that so I did an RGH to get the DVD drive keys from the motherboard and flash them to my new drive, that didn't work because the clock and data wires are too close (they aren't touching), I just bought a new solder sucker (engineer SS-02) to change how the RGH board is installed so I can get it to work by putting the wires through the holes for the jtag connector soldering them in on the bottom and covering them with electrical tape (I'm going to try that when it gets here), I wouldn't need to do any of that if microsoft designed the drive better so I could reuse my old one after cleaning it which was all I did to it when it first stopped working, I've cleaned CD and DVD drives for regular PC's the same way I did the one on my xbox and they still work it's just the one for the 360 that doesn't work.
Good job! FWIW, I think you had it kind of easy. I bought and restored a Sega CD Model 1 from Japan (Sega CD), the early revision with the socketed BIOS and it was way, way worse than this to restore. Initially it wouldn't even power on. When it finally did, it wouldn't read discs at all and the tray was slow and unreliable. I had issues with all 3 limit switches. I had to recap it, which when combined with a new belt made the tray work perfectly and quickly, the caps must have been so bad that the motor wasn't getting enough power. Alas, even after all that work, it wouldn't read discs. I ended up having to replace the laser module. It was quite the journey and much like you, I had difficulties because there are not a lot of videos on these and the mechanism for the tray and laser assembly is quite tricky with that helix screw. Also, it didn't help that it took me a while to figure out that I didn't need to keep trying to get a certain alignment of the gears because the drive is kind of smart and self-adjusts.
The earlier model definitely looks more complex thats for sure. Sounds like it took you on quite the journey! Great job getting it to work after all that back and forth. I've had mixed luck with optical drive issues. They are certainly my least favorite kind of faults to work on thus far.
@@BorderlineOCD Thanks. Yeah, optical drives issues are no fun. I had a PC Engine Duo that also needed a new laser. When I got it, it wouldn't read anything. Several days/videos/pages later I got it to reliably, silently and quickly read original discs but it would just not read backups. No matter how much more I tried to tune it, I could only get it to sometimes, barely load a backup disc but it was not usable. Replaced the laser, went back to the original calibration, works fine with originals and backups now. Also had to recap it because the colours and audio were just atrocious. The caps had leaked everywhere.
I was surprised you got it to work with original laser I must say. I have no experience with the model 2 but from what I've read, it's supposed to be much more reliable. Maybe the fact that you got it to work is a testament to that. Still, finding that fault with the orientation of the parts in the chuck assembly was pretty cool. That would have thrown me for a loop too, I wouldn't have assumed someone would have fiddled with it and just reassembled it incorrectly.
Iobe your video man ♥️, I've been watching nonstop. Very addictive.
Happy to hear it. Cheers.
So basically whoever tried to fix something with this previously completely botched the job. Fantastic job man.
Amazing video thank you. Do you have one showing how to replace a broken laser?
I had the Sega Genesis, and alter bought the CD addition. I don't recall having the platform that connected the two as if they were one console though.
Fantastic repair. It was very pleasing to watch and learn. If all your content is like this. Than I will be happy to subcribe
Thanks for the sub!
@@BorderlineOCD You're welcome. I've been watching your past videos. As many that interest me. Your cleaning and soldering techniques are fascinating. Learning a lot.
2:20 That's actually a pretty common reaction to most SEGA CD games, though usually only for players.
excellently,perfect!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I must have had the model one, my Sega cd system was stacked if I remember right lol. I hope you have Ecco the Dolphin on cd it is awesome. I run the cd version on emulator on PC now.
Great! I missed your videos. I can't wait for the backwards compatible Ps3 Repair video ;)
Thanks! I'm not burning to work on it yet but it's staring at me in the face on my repair shelf lol.
@@BorderlineOCD I have one that needs to be repaired so im waiting for your wisdom haha
I hoped for a Sega CD restoration, and I happened! Thanks palley!
I made it just for you. Dreams do come true.
For me?! A Big thank you to you!
That shine/sponge you used towards the end of your video. What other uses do you recommend it for? Would it make the game cartridges look nice and shined too and does it only work on black plastics?
I loved your game choice, Formula 1!!!!! Nice job!!
Haha, I bought it because I'm an F1 fan and thought it would be a fun game to own, but its very hard to play. Are you into F1? I actually wake up at 6 AM to watch the races live, and even the occasional qualifying (including this morning).
@@BorderlineOCD I love F1
Get your hands on a copy of "Silpheed" for the SEGA CD. Great times.
14:22 Some contact cleaners are not recommended for carbon contacts. Make sure you check it before use. Do not overdo the cleaning on a piece of paper, as the carbon coating will get stripped and then the contact will not work for sure anymore.
You can buy a special carbon coating for these contacts, so you can resurface them. It's useful for your remote buttons that stop working due to overuse as well. Just make sure you get some reliable brand instead of no name one.
12:24 There's a drop-in FeRAM swap for the Sega CD that eliminates the need for a battery entirely. Seems pretty popular but time will tell if it comes with issues of some kind.
F1 fan here well done on repair
I would just leave the fuse holder. It is convenient. Good troubleshooting by the way.
Nice job , I had issue with Atari Jaguar cd after leant it to my brother .
Managed to fix it as the spindle had been compressed down
Nice. It's the less obvious stuff that sometimes trips you up. Look forward to finding one of those myself. That's another system you don't see or hear much about anymore.
@@BorderlineOCD I bought mine new in 1994 when they were discounted so it’s pretty mint .,so glad I didn’t sell it on yrs ago .
What converter do you use to connect the console to a modern TV? One more thing, would it be fine to use black restorer product in cream rather then sponges? I'm having hard time to find sponges, they all are mainly cream or spray. Thanks, love your channel
awesome video
Glad you enjoyed it!
@@BorderlineOCD was cool 😎
The Sega CD and Sega Saturn both fascinate me because programmers really never had a chance to fully utilize both the consoles custom hardware. The Sega CD has a amazing ASIC I think only a a couple games used. The Saturn had 8 CPUs pretty much same story.
Aside of the black trim sponges, what else did you use on the surface of the console? Thanks !
Would it be possible to add a doide to the power connector in the drive section to prevent shorts when using the wrond power adapter?
Great video!
What did you use to clean the lens?
A lot of people used to give the Sega CD a lot of crap back in the day, even today some still see it as a subpar gaming system. But to be honest back in 91 that thing was pretty cool. I think it failed in stores because there just was a huge amount of consoles popping up all claiming to be the next best thing and it didn't help that the Sega CD and Sega 32x were over priced at release nearly the price of a fully stand alone gaming system. But I managed to snag my Sega CD and Sega 32X for $20 a piece at K-B Toys. That was a great Christmas. Of course a year later the Playstation 1 was released but for that small time gap the Sega CD and 32x kept me more than entertained for a measly $40 and I still played it along side my PS1.
i wach a lot of your video ,i love it ,i had 2 sega cd when i was young and try to play sewer shark a lot,i hate that game so much and had to check on youtube to see the rest of the game like 25 years later ,i found a ps2 on goodwill for 35$ last 2 month with the old network adapter so i bough it to try mcboot on it ,it work well ,i put a old 80gig drive on it but have to modify the power connector to the drive by unscrew it ,my drive wont fit on it ,probably back the it would need a special drive,but when you unscrew the power conector and slide it a llitle more it work well,i also bough the hdmi conector ,it really improve the grafic ,but sometime it not start up when the console start,you just need to unplug the usb and replug it when the ps2 is open
Another fantastic repair!
(yeah I couldn't think of anything else to say this time. Is this long enough to make the algorithm happy? I hope so)
Lol, thank you very much for the continued support and participation!
Aw, I was hoping to see you replace the caps and fix the Genesis video issue. Or is that for another video? BTW, have you found a better solder flux paste yet or is MG Chemicals still good enough?
Haha I might do that in a future video but I have a couple of other Model 2s that are in much better shape. This one just came with the donation so wanted to tackle them together. I'm still using MG Chemicals but ordered some Amtech 559 so I have a spare ready to go when the MG Chemicals one is done. Given they are both about $20 a syringe I want to try and use all of it if I can help it so I'm trying to be patient with it when it clogs up.
Another Badass video, lesss gooooo
Thanks bud.