Not as good, fewer dealers, dealers have minimal parts stock and no good trouble shooters. They invented the round baler; then let JD pass them up in short time.
@@mikee5246 Here's my story: 1985 thru 1992, I was a Vermeer dealer and about 1986 they introduced the 604J/ 605J. It turned out to be a good baler only after they went from a square starter roller to a spiral roller with a scraper. On the 604/605 J balers, a monitor was offered, and it monitored the outside belts. Vermeer was sued by Hesston for patent infringement and lost the lawsuit to Hesston and it cost them thousands. JD was using the same principle, but paid Hesston for the patent rights. Then came the intro of the 504I baler at a dealer meeting in TN. The engineers were so proud of it. After the crowd looked over the baler, we noticed there was no way to raise the pick-up for transport. Their response: after extensive testing, we determined there's no need to ever raise the pick-up. They couldn't believe not a single order was placed that day. That ignorant idea lasted 1 year and then a lever was added to lift the pick-up along with a kit to update units already sold and it was a bear to install. Then came their double twine arms. What a joke. Made too weak, very hard to thread twine and a piss poor twine knife system. Then some moron had the bright idea to put a half twist in the belts in the front to prevent hay build up. Did not work, the twist would not stay in the front and could wind up being anywhere. Then on 504 and 505 models they incorporated some 14" wide belts that were next to impossible to re-lace and just a bear to remove/install. Then 604/605 K series showed up and turned out to be a misfit. That's when I abandoned Vermeer. They didn't have a real good baler until they started copying JD with the vertical bale chamber instead of the bottom drum design and JD's twine arm design and all 7" wide belts. Vermeer simply did not have the smartest engineers back then. Hopefully things are better now.
Had the beers all my life had four of them. I like my a lot better than any of the others got along fine didn’t have a monitor you don’t need a monitor on that crap on there just drive to your left and drive to your right string tie, no net wrap, net wrap, hard to get off in the winter time Just bail hay and go put a string on still last for three or four years whatever
Awesome video!
Pickup clutch is nice for not having netwrap wrap around the pickup
Great informative video! We love our 604N Select that puts a 4x5 bale on the ground every minute and a half.
Happy Harvesting!
How do they compare to the Deere's baler?
Not as good, fewer dealers, dealers have minimal parts stock and no good trouble shooters. They invented the round baler; then let JD pass them up in short time.
@@steveogden1829 respectably disagree. Ive had both. Deere easier to run at start but I had better performance out of Vermeer. less dealers yes.
@@mikee5246 Here's my story: 1985 thru 1992, I was a Vermeer dealer and about 1986 they introduced the 604J/ 605J. It turned out to be a good baler only after they went from a square starter roller to a spiral roller with a scraper. On the 604/605 J balers, a monitor was offered, and it monitored the outside belts. Vermeer was sued by Hesston for patent infringement and lost the lawsuit to Hesston and it cost them thousands. JD was using the same principle, but paid Hesston for the patent rights. Then came the intro of the 504I baler at a dealer meeting in TN. The engineers were so proud of it. After the crowd looked over the baler, we noticed there was no way to raise the pick-up for transport. Their response: after extensive testing, we determined there's no need to ever raise the pick-up. They couldn't believe not a single order was placed that day. That ignorant idea lasted 1 year and then a lever was added to lift the pick-up along with a kit to update units already sold and it was a bear to install. Then came their double twine arms. What a joke. Made too weak, very hard to thread twine and a piss poor twine knife system. Then some moron had the bright idea to put a half twist in the belts in the front to prevent hay build up. Did not work, the twist would not stay in the front and could wind up being anywhere. Then on 504 and 505 models they incorporated some 14" wide belts that were next to impossible to re-lace and just a bear to remove/install. Then 604/605 K series showed up and turned out to be a misfit. That's when I abandoned Vermeer. They didn't have a real good baler until they started copying JD with the vertical bale chamber instead of the bottom drum design and JD's twine arm design and all 7" wide belts. Vermeer simply did not have the smartest engineers back then. Hopefully things are better now.
Had the beers all my life had four of them. I like my a lot better than any of the others got along fine didn’t have a monitor you don’t need a monitor on that crap on there just drive to your left and drive to your right string tie, no net wrap, net wrap, hard to get off in the winter time Just bail hay and go put a string on still last for three or four years whatever
Very informative!