MAKE YOUR OWN FUEL PUMP ACCESS & SAVE $100's W/OUT DROPPING THE TANK 99 MAZDA 626 2.0L
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- CAUTION: Only an experienced person should perform this task with extreme care. GASOLINE is very dangerous and could cause injury or even BURN YOU TO DEATH. I show you how to cut an access hole to the fuel pump instead of taking the tank down.
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Great idea oldskool. Every car should have access like this from the factory. You did a good job. As long as it sealed well it's just as good as factory access!
Again, Take----- CAUTION----- and be experienced. Use extreme care DONT GET YOURSELF BURNED TO DEATH...PLEASE...I made the video so I could save time and show you how to save some serious money. Call around and ask how much this job is. You will see what I am talking about. My buddy paid $600+ dollars to get the fuel pump replaced in his Tahoe. I got the pump from the Wrecking yard and paid only $42 for the pump and sending unit assembly (the fuel level float) all together. WORK SAFE
+oldskool funk Great video, the previous owner of my 1997 Cavalier did this, but after 2 years of owning it, i can now smell gas inside the car when i drive. I took off the duct tape that they covered it with, and sure enough, it smells like there is a gas leak. Figures, i just had an injector replaced thinking that was the problem. Any idea what it could be?? A broken tube maybe?? God bless.
Respect, I wish I had your knackers, must be big. Unfortunately down here in oz, I wouldn't be able to get away with it. thanks for the vid. safe driving.
+oldskool funk yo bro ..i really have respect for ur way of thinking nd solving problems.. Keep up the good work man imma sub. for life... Godd Bless U My Christian Brother
***** Oh heck no. lol
It's the fumes that ignite not the liquid itself, you can put a cigarette out in the liquid if you do it fast enough, lol but do not try it, lol. I have always smoked while changing fuel filters on my vehicles and I am still alive, lol, and it is because I have GOD and Jesus Christ in my heart.
Get it done! Car still works afterwards, I'm a tech in a dealership and I've seen worse done by other techs. For those of you that say that this will affect the structural integrity of the vehicle. You obviously have never removed a fuel pump, on a car that has an access hole. All the access whole to the fuel pump is, a plate being held to the floor with some plastic retainers. I'm assuming this guy charged the person a lot less than actually removing the tank. Saving the person tons of money.
@michael hines nah. I wouldn't do this myself but you aren't taking the tank down in the same amount of time. Rusty strap bolts, exhaust, suspension, fuel fill hose,fuel lines, electrical connections, emission crap, all those obstacles. Removing seat is easy, the only time consuming deal is creating an access hole without cutting important things.
@michael hines and the dealer will quote you $400.00. Then tell you they also HAVE to replace the fuel filter and fuel pressure regulator. Then charge you to pressure test the system. And they will still have your car for 3-4 days. If you have the knowledge time to do this then i don't see the problem with saving money. I just replaced my daughter's today. Took a few hours saved a few hundred.
Maybe also as soon as you see which side the fuel lines are coming from, make that side the bending side , so you don't even
have to take a chance on accidentally cutting too deep and hitting a line.
Did this almost 2 years ago in my 2000 Ford E-150 Van. Used a body air saw with short blade. Went under the Van to check measurements and check how much room I had between the floor and tank and drilled up through the floor with a 1/8 drill bit making 4 holes as to make my square. From above used a Sharpie to mark my square. Cut 3 sides from the center of the Van toward the drivers side then just peeled the metal up and over giving me plenty of working room to get to my fuel pump. A easy job. When done used some heavy sheet metal and made tabs and pop riveted the tabs to the underside of the floor going across in different sections so I could un-peel the cut metal floor section and set it back down and pop rivet the floor back that I cut to the tabs. One can use sheet metal screws instead if that want. Then just use some silicone to seal it if you want. If I need to replace the fuel pump ever again I have easy access. Just drill the pop rivets out and cut through the Silicone with a razor. If I had to take the tank out it would of been more then a one man job being the E-Series tanks are 30 gallon and depending on how much fuel is in the tank forget about it. I should mention I keep a full 4x8' piece of plywood sitting on the floor of all my Vans that I have owned. Just put the plywood back over the floor when done. The plywood is great especially when picking up a pallet of anything to put into the Van. No matter what you use to cut the floor as mentioned above by "oldskool" trying to keep the blade high. You don't want to cut too deep especially in the area of the fuel pump being there is a harness and fuel lines in that area one of the reasons I worked towards that area and peeled the metal up to that area rather then make that 4th cut across being it was too close to wiring in the area. Great Video "oldskool funk" .
You got to think outside the box. Your method saves time and i can see why you took this approach to remove fuel pump. All vehicles should have fuel pump inspection holes and transmission sump plugs.
This closed design is to keep you going back to dealers or mechanics which cost a fortune. Be safe, love and prosper under the light of god.
I done this to my Ford F150. I cut a spot out long enough to reach my fuel pump and sensors on the tank. I work at a metal fab shop and made a plate with several holes and made a gasket for the plate. Used self tapping screws to mount the plate. With my bedliner installed, it's not noticable. Yeah, I was flamed for cutting the hole out too, but I don't care what others think.
+JackOfAllTrades and your car still works. and you got paid for doing it your self. and y should you bow the to the pressure of being flamed.
My 2000 Crown Vic quit starting. I called up a mobile mechanic who told me it was the fuel pump gone bad. Said he couldn't work on it because it had to be up on a hoist. He figured it would cost $500 plus $100 towing, to get it fixed. More than I paid for the car.
After seeing this, I'm gonna have a go at replacing the pump. Thanks for the info.
damn right i thought I was the only mechanic to do this that hole doesn't hurt nothin just take your time and dont cut the wrong area like i have
Good video . I have done the same thing on many cars. You might want to remind people to disconnect one battery cable to eliminate the chance of a spark anywhere. I do that when working with open fuel.
I not only find this information extremely useful, but inspirational as well. Far better than most other videos of this type. This is truly the best real world mechanic out there>
Nothing wrong with a short cut, very good work, thanks. Useful
You can always cover it with a piece of sheet metal and a few screws.I pulled the bed off my truck to reach the tank and fuel pump. Any time you can get by without dropping a fuel tank is worth it. Damn mfgs. should make an access plate in all vehicles. Good job man.
I cut a square hole in the bed of my ford econoline cargo van to get to the fuel pump. Then just screwed a sheet of steel down over the hole. There should have been a access panel there in the first place. Good video man, don't do any more work than you need to!
I would recommend using a dremmel saw with a depth adjustment feature and a metal cutting wheel, but you use what you have in a pinch!
thanks a lot OSF, i just cut an access hole in my mom's 95. Honda Accord..didn't have power tools available so I used large tinsnips, vise grips and flashlight...saved me a Bunch of pesos !!! thanks for the video...
If you got a 98 GMC Jimmy like me then cut the hole and make a cover plate you can remove easy because you will be replacing pumps every 1 to 3 years.
my dad and brother have done this on their GM sierra trucks, the access holes should be part of the car/truck design i think, thanks for the how-to tuts... cheers!
I cut an access hole with a dremel and a cutting disk on my 1988 ford escort and there were sparks but nothing went wrong. You just have to be careful how deep you're cutting the metal. I cut it deep enough to just barely go through the metal. I didn't bother to make up a hatch to cover the hole and there are no gas odors. I thought it was going to be one time fuel pump replacement and nope! A year later I had to replace the pump again because the fuel hose from the pump to the pickup tube raptured and I had no fuel pressure so car wouldn't go. My 2003 nissan xterra has a nice access hole in the back seat which I thought was a brilliant move on nissan's part and I had to change the pump there also and I can't imagine dropping a 19 gallon gas tank on that one. So kudos to nissan for making an access hole for mechanics. Not going to talk about the nonsense of removing the intake manifold to get to the fuel injectors. Bad nissan, bad...
I do this with all my vehicles but I wanted to see how someone else does it. I like to use an angle grinder with a cutoff wheel. I know it throws a lot of sparks but if you go over where you want the cut to be and just remove a little stock at a time I stead of plunding the blade in it minimizes the a mount of sparks hitting the tank and the risk of cutting in to far and hitting a fuel line. Then I prefer to take the cutout piece and cut a bigger one out of a donor car so I have a nice cover that I can put some screws into. But anyway thanks for the video and the super useful info. I'm sure you're helping a lot of folks
You think that's Getto, my husband used tin snips and a hammer, and he didn't seal it back. And my car still don't run 😭.
Pick your part Junk yard!
Lmao, all that and it still doesn't run. wow! I saw someone using tin snips on youtube the other day. I was like wtf!
like you'd do any better yourself
Maybe I misunderstood. There's nothing wrong with cutting a hole in the back of your vehicle I do it all the time.
The reason your vehicle doesn't run has nothing to do with cutting a hole.
If you live where there is salt this is common way to do it, for those complaining about sparks what happens when you have to use a grinder to cut the straps and seized lines to drop a tank? By the way sawzall has the least amount of chance of sparking if you go slow and those blades are made to cut at slow speeds unlike grinders.
Thanks for posting. some people cant afford to pay someone to do this stuff the"right way" but I say the cheapest way is the best way. sealing it up won't be near as much BS as some of these fools posting here make it out. 3M metal tape or self adhesives roof flashing. basically thin aluminum with a rubberized adhesive that will stick to anything. you can get both from Lowe's for less then $10 and do 20 cars.
Do what you gotta do! I've done this and guess what, it saved me from having to drop the tank a second time. The new fuel pump I put in went bad two weeks later. Just opened the access hole I already made and changed out the pump. No dropping the tank that was full of fuel. Keep it up OLDSKOOL you got it right. Work smarter not harder!
How do you get to the connection when the line cant be disconnected on top of the pump?
This is exactly the outside the box thinking that this country needs!....
I will subscribe just because of this video!....
And I applaud this young man for his ingenuity and all out fervor for getting stuff DONE!....
Bravo!.. My brother!.... BRAVO!....
here's a tip, snap the brand new short metal blade, so you have just enough blade to cut the hole and not the tank wires or fuel lines, then you can drill 4 corners and insert the blade with the saw all shoe tight to the metal surface, makes for a clean cut without hand busting backlash. works for clutch replacements, top bell housing bolts. But what do I care, I ride a motorcycle!
Brilliant! No sparks. Love the “getto “ work around. I wish you great wealth and happiness
All the best neal
Sw flo.
I think your videos are amazing and you do touch people's lives like you did mine I honestly think and with all respect as a man I think you're a genius you're a mastermind mechanic and it's amazing how you dedicate your time to show us easier way of getting things done thank you for sharing your knowledge and God bless you thank you so much for your videos I really really enjoyed them thank you sincerely Rafael Sandoval
Interesting video. Here is a quick tip..get a fuel pump cover plate from another car. Mark the outline of that plate onto the sheetmetal. Cut away the metal completely and once you are done...either silicone the cover plate over the access hole or attach via a few bolt. It will make the mod look stock.
cheers.
love the video. I'm about to tackle mine. but instead of silicone. I'm gonna use dynamat. "sound dampener" very sticky and will take care of vapor and road noise.
...taking notes
I did this once on a 1997 Ford Ka. I used a sheet metal nibbler. At the time, I thought I was the only person in the world crazy enough to do it. It's good to see someone else do it, and to see so many others do it in the comments.
Bro...really round about way, but it works and for us DIY...why not. I was looking to use a nibbler myself, but your method works too. I spent 3 hours dropping the tank in a 2000 Mitsubishi Mirage to replace a fuel pump only to find out in the end...it was a fuel pump relay that was bad. Anyway, kudo's bro, many may dislike, but you got wavo's man for your method. I got to laugh at it some, when fixing a bent blade...but none the less it works out - Cheers brother
3hrs to drop the tank only to find out there was access door 😱
My wife's Chevy needs a new fuel pump and sender unit but, she'd kill me if she came home and found me in the driveway cutting a big hole under the back seat...Now, I'm convinced I'll be trading-in her Malibu real soon! Cool video though!
I did this on my 93 accord last summer it'd better this way ha ha good job man
Only other tip one should follow is do this work with the fuel level in the tank at a low state. The less fuel in the tank when it's opened, the better. If the tank is full and the pump suddenly craps out, try to siphon out as much of the fuel out of the tank as possible before beginning work.
Good idea, and the expert with a big heart can do it, but you can do the cutting using a grinder with a small grinding wheel. It is safer than hacksaw with that reciprocating stroke it may damage the unseen items .However, the decision you made only for strong people with big hearts, well done task , we wish soon to see another video showing the replacement of the new fuel pump. You're my HERO
I did that to my Lincoln TC about four years ago...it saves a lot of work!
took my Mercury Lincoln to the mechanic cause I can't get down anymore and work on my back, well the Mechanic has hired High school kids to do his work for him. Third fuel pump and they still don't have it right. Wish I had know this I could have done it your way man. God bless
I'd say someone filling the tank up was the main reason you didn't want to drop it. haha
Don't worry bout who don't like it. I like it. Been there done that already. It save a lotta time when u working at home.
Thank you so much for taking the time to post this. I would've used tin snips, and depressurised the fuel line before disconnecting the battery then done it like you explained here. Thank you again Sir. on an old car, it would save a lot of time!
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You can cut a larger cover plate from a junk car. Secure with screws. Worked for me on a VW van.
I did mine only cut 3 sides and just pushed it back down and used some duck tape and flex seal tape it's sealed up real good
Hope you do not take offence. I always felt N*****Rig was something ONLY smart people could do. But in a world where we get offended by flies on the wall and politically correctness is all that matter, then I have to say: young man of color you just saved me a bunch of money, for which am very grateful. Am glad you are around and may you touch many other lives. May your future be always bright
Any of you who say it is just as easy to drop the tank, apparently have never done it before. On some newer cars you may have to drop exhaust or drive shaft, some tanks are strapped in. You're not butchering your car or affecting any part of it performance or drive ability by cutting into some flimsy metal to begin with.
I was saying that to myself. You beat me to it.
I appreciate anyone taking the time to try and help. The problem is with our new clean air laws. The test is no longer done at the tail pipe. A computer is hooked to the plug under the dash, and all information about the engine operation is down loaded. If there are any outstanding error or trouble codes or any current engine operation anomalies the car fails and can not be driven until it is corrected. So while I know it would pass a tail pipe exhaust test, I cannot legally drive it. I really hate the extent the government has intruded into every aspect of my life, from birth to death.
+phillip harden depending on where you live, if it fails the OBD test twice it might send the tester to do a sniff test, at least it did for me.
Soul attorney what do you mean?? what r they changing in 2017???
Well Phillip here in NJ it is different, The Emission Law is more lenient, But Motor Vehicle Inspection Station gives you 30 Days to have the vehicle fixed and when you go back to the Inspection Station you go to the Re- Inspection Lane and they hook the scanner back up and if 3 or 4 Monitors are good and no pending Codes your vehicle passes, but New York is like California, much stricter Emissions Laws.
you are confusing an obd test and a smog test. once your car gets old enough u dont have to pass smog here in Massachusetts anyway. 15 years and older. you still have to pass an obd test with the plug under the dash and a safety check but the smog with the tailpipe is still a test u must pass if it is 14 or less years old but they are 2 different tests. one checks misfires and the other tests converter efficiency
Its the fricking Democrats that does this
After the second fuel pump on my Tahoe I put an access hole under the rear seat too, 440,000 miles and 4 fuel pumps it has has been worth it. I cut an oversized piece of aluminum shaped it to the floor and silicone it down , a few screws and boom , done Keep on bro. !!!!
Great Idea I did my jeep like that when I replaced the crank position sensor on bell housing. I left the flap just like you did replaced and siliconed to seal works great. You are smart like me saves a ton of work. Good job man
Did the same thing in an Astro van once. Installed a cover with fire rated caulking and heavy steel plate. The second time I changed it only took 45 minutes.
That is something I WOULD do if need be.
Not taking the tank down. Nice job 👍🏼!
This is a great idea, this would save a person HOURS dropping the tank. However, I would use a manual nibbler for sheet metal for cutting the access panel. The 2000-2005 Buick LeSabres have a factory access panel in the trunk for fuel pump access, which is the best design I've ever seen GM do.
I've done it on pickup trucks and used a 4 in grinder with a cutting wheel. Worked out great and an access for life.
Get a piece of sheet metal larger than the hole, and make a cover for your access port with a sheet rubber gasket underneath. Fasten it down with self tapping screws around the edges. It will reduce the chance of fuel entering the passenger compartment in a collision, and look more professional. Peace.
Lmao I'm sorry but I died when you were trying to hammer another hole and the center punch went flying😂😂 but I did use your method of replacing the fuel pump. I dont own a Jack or Jack stands, and I cant pull the tank out from under the car because it is lowered with coil overs. Great video with a bit of humor. New subscriber right here!
hey ppl can call it what they will. me myself i see efficient and common sense way to fix my truck ,especially knowing fuel pump will eventually go again anyway. bravo bro.
Oldskool I know you have skills. You know people aren't too bright and they probably will cut hole in the tank and have to take it down anyways! Thanks for the entertaining videos you make!
+George Magana Hey! I represent that remark!
If I have the car lift, then I would drop the tank. But when I took a peak yesterday? The fuel tank was placed in the middle of the car! I'm not even a big guy and I know it would be a pain! The car was given to me by a friend, it's an old car I will be using to go to the range so I'm definitely cutting the floor! LoL Thanks for the video bro! Saves me time and money!!!
That the smartest act man, i was thinking the same for my 96 jeep grand cherokkee but i sold it, i bought a honda crv that has access from inside the car.
I salute you for your inovative approach.one no one that has anything good to say is simply 1.scared to do it.2.wish they had thought about it.3.think they can do it better.having said that I am clueless when it comes to the importance an safety of the procedure which is the only reason why I would unfortunately have to pay someone who can.that said a brilliant raw hoodstyle version of an innovative approach thou with some practice on the more safe approach to your approach would definately rewrite the rule book on fixing ones fuel pump.
I thank you for sharing this with us an hope you make more videos.
I know you have to be extremely careful doing that way but it works god bless you man. I have learned so much from your videos keep smashing it in Jesus name you have awesome ideas
Its not a bad idea to make your own access hole, but I would add that people may want to create a cover with a gasket to put back over it in case of fumes or in the event of a crash gas wont enter the passenger compartment. Thanks for the efforts, cheers.
I've done this to every car I have replaced a fuel pump or sending unit in, except pickup trucks which I remove the bed. I always cut out a piece of steel bigger than the hole with room to put a rubber gasket in between and screw it down.
What would you use to make rubber gasket?
@@Nomoreendlesswars - I would like to know the same thing .
I didn’t make a gasket when I did my 97 accord. I used sheet metal shears and leather gloves. Cut the hole peeled back the metal and changed the pump. When I got done I put the metal back in place the best way I could. Then I used silver hvac tape and taped it really good to seal out any fumes. I haven’t had any issues with it at all and I drive the car everyday for work. It has been fine for the past 20k miles.
@@Nomoreendlesswars - Thanks
Access granted, thats the way I like it. Sometimes you gotta make your own rules, you sure got that right. Keep up the good work.
Hey Man, i really like your videos and your out of the box thinking. Youre saving people a lot of money. Youre working with what you have. I like this and i learned a lot from you. I just wanted to say thank you god bless you. Best regards from Iraq, Ahmed
Good job man I like the way you did that because dropping that gas tank is to much work I am going to do this on my 99 explorer soon ha ha ha thanks alot
This procedure is commonly done on the early 2000’s jaguar models. It’s so much work to bring down the tank that many mechanics choose not to take the job. That puts things into perspective.
Good video. And yes most car manufacturers make it hard to repair only to make more money
One word: "Dremel"
I'd recommend an angle grinder. In and out... 5 mins.
One mess up with sparks your died
@@jayjb833 drain the gas first. Don't go to far down .
@@OvelNick yeah ok lol boom
thanks for posting. The only problem old school is that by the time you get the tools and time you waste it will be easier to just drop it. or have someone else to do it.
The next time that it happens , the access will already be there . That will be very convenient , especially if someone 'is away from home ., and if they keep a spare with them .
I am thinking about being proactive and making me one .
Cool ! I just found this! Imma change my pump. but imma bend the float UP so i'll never run outta gas!
Just don't be blazin the blunts in the back seat....lol
God bless you and thank you for sharing this ingenious method!
Man god bless u I keep watching your videos and like u I'm a godly person try to be yes I might slip but I know God is by my side I had a hip injury 3 years ago and it's been ruff but god got the wheel and thank his i know mechanic work I bed trying to flip cars now I got my first one with gods blessing I can do everything and keep on doing what u doing I'm from cali but moved to Alabama god bless u and your videos
You did good. Pisses me off that manufacturers don't build in access ports like the one you just made. Airplane manufacturers do. I would do the same thing for changing the heater core for the inside of the car.--into the firewall. Easy-peasy.......
hahahaha. that saw almost poked into the fuel tank.
i have an idea.
1) centre punch a hole,
2) ream it a little like a tighty whitie.
3) use sheel metal shears. ( and no one gets injured).
4) beer.
AUTOCUBE any idea on how to patch/seal it once you have the hole made? You seem like you have an idea what your talking about
And that how it supposed to come from the factory right !
Well done 👍 you are a great teacher 👨🏫
Brother
Thanks for the video ,I just replaced the fuel pump on my wife's Sunfire and I was done in 3 an a half hours
Danny McCambridgeThanks Danny, Congratulations! thats what im talking about, Saving money and doing it yourself with pride.
Great video I have done that to one of my cars once. But what I did before cutting the door I took some wheel bearing grease and lightly spread it along the line of where I was going too cut. Don't know if it helped but you don't want any sparks. After the new pump was in bend the door back straight, wipe grease off with brake cleaner spray lightly wipe around area of dust and dirt. Cauk with sealant around seam then I used Aluminum air duct tape over that. The tape won't fall off after time it stays put with this you make a seal. Great video thank you sir.
This is what I plan on doing dude.Exactly the way I thought it would work. Thanks for the video and love what you said about God. Love to hear people talk like this. Glad I am saved brother. Take care and God bless you.
Hey brother that's exactly what I'm going to do to my son's $900 Saturn LOL great job thanks a lot!
Good fix in my book. That is how I'll do it if mine ever goes.
Thanks man. I was thinking about doing it this way and now I see that it can be done.
dude cool vid I love pioneers who pave their own way hes a true American
Great idea. Well done video. Love your giving glory to Christ. Thank you for sharing.
I've seen this before , great work men 👏. I've seen engineers do worst and get paid more.
Hey oldskool, I changed my fuel pump on my 2001 Mercury sable the same way. Made an access hole under rear seat. Took 45 minutes to complete the job.
That's the way to do it unless you're working on a priceless classic. If that's "hood" work, I'm part of your hood. I like your courage. Thank YHWH Always for ALL things...
Fantastic. I’ve been hesitant about doing my car this way, after watching your video this is how I’m going to change mine. According to the book I have to remove rear part of my exhaust to do it the manufacturer way, and we all know what that means. Thanks for the video.
Done 1 worked fine Coverd with a peace of tin
Oh Hell yes thanks to the wonderful new Fuels with Ethanol we will be replacing pumps on a regular Basis my state just went to the Summer Blend and all 3 of my cars lost their fuel pumps in the same week
That's how you do it son! Wayyyy cool!Thanks
Big homie I was about to drop the gas tank on my Acura Integra but not today! Haha
It's ghetto but it works saves me 2 hours of work. Thanks for the videos. Keep it up
Great Video Brother. Thanks !Love Your Wittness For Christ, You Dah man !
I had a tank that was leaking from the top once and didn't know till the tank was dropped I'm thinkin if someone where to have done this in that car the friction from the sawsall could set someone on fire, be careful peoples
I did this several times during the 70's. Used a modified air chisel. Sure saved a lot of time. Used a cover plate over the opening fastened with short metal screws, and a thin rubber gasket. Thanks for reminding me!
This guy knows a exactly what he's doing just like me like I said before but if you're not mechanically inclined I wouldn't try it because you're a cut a lot of stuff that you don't supposed to cut so pay attention to his video really really good because he's doing an excellent job
Loud and clear. Doing my eldo.
My fuel gauge quit and i aint dropping this tank again.
To cut steel sheets! I always use an air chisel. I got a special chisel with a little leg pertruding in the chisel. This only cuts 3mm deep and the edges are not sharp. I never thought about taking a fuel pump out like that before!
...wondering if I could use a wood chisel now.
Ive done this same exact thing but, I used a 6inch hole saw and drill. then when I attached it i put tabs on the disc I cut out and secured it over the hole tek screw and siliconed around the gap to get any fumes and debris out, I agree this is way faster then pulling the tank
Old school funk number 1 backyard mechanic hood star keeps it real
Great Idea man. I found the measurements from a TH-cam video for a Chevy Venture and drilled a small 3/8" hole once I measured it and there it was then with a grinder cut 3 sides of a square and folded metal back and 6" or so hole worked great.