The Oa Writing System
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 11 ก.ย. 2024
- So I decided to come up with a writing system.
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Artifexian: "It is based on Hangul (Korean writing)!"
Comments: "Am I the only who noticed he copied Korean?"
Child Of The Smokeless Fire that was obvious, and he said that himself in the video!
Exactly why op is making fun of the comments saying it looks like Korean
Many Koreans confuse Korean Language and Korean Writing(Hangul).
Haha, as someone learning Korean(and already knowing Hangul) YES I did!! It's an excellent idea I think!!XD
i also noticed... so get *nae-nae'd*
10 is folly
12 is jolly
60 is... OH MY GOLLY
Isaac The Destroyer of Stuped Yes, but one may need to come up with 60 numerals, although the Babylonians seemed to have taken care of that.
I think that since Artifexian said his numbering system would be inspired on the Mayan system, he probably wouldn't need to invent so many symbols if he decided to use a base-60 system.
210 is godly
Isaac The Destroyer of Stuped Babylon...
Link: GOLLY
Artifexian: *bases his writing system on Hangul*
Me, who can somewhat read Hangul: *tries to pronounce 'mng'*
Is that referring to the AO thing
As a Korean, I was really confused by the thumbnail of the video, and some of these letters. They look exactly like 한글
@@JunoItaliano Yea that the letters in the thumbnail look like ㄱㅁㅈstashed upon each other
@@aswalchitra ikr!
Me trying to pronounce ujmngju be like be like:
AAAAAJAJWJAJAAJAJAJAJAIAIAIAIIAIAIAIAIAIAIIAIAIAIAIAIAAAAAAAAAIAIAAAA8AAA8AAAIAAA9AA9AOASAAA9AAA9AAAA9A9AAA9AAA8AIAIAIAAAAAAAAAÑALAALLSKWKSKKASAAÑAÑÑÑAÑÑÑÑAÑAAÑAÑAÑAÑAÑÑAÑAÑAÑAAAAAAASSAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGNGNGNNGNGNGNGNNGGSAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA9AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAÑAAAAOAAAÑAAAOAÑAAAOAAÑAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAWHKMG 6:38 6:38 6:38 6:38 6:38 6:38 6:38 6:38 6:38 6:38 6:38 6:38 6:38 6:38 6:38 6:38 6:38
I've put a lot of work into some of my videos, but I've never created an entire writing system. Damn.
Never expected Joe to be here
ayo joe scott poggers?
yet
Hi joe
Hmm, verified?
I'd love to see a written version of Oa. Especially the cursive
Some artifexian viewers are working on this as we speak. Very exciting times.
Oa block in Unicode coming… when? :D
Does a cursive version of Korean (and Chinese and Japanese) even exist, though?
@@mat2468xk YUP! That what makes it so confusing sometimes to learn for me...
@@mat2468xk yes
I have a feeling that if this became a writing system in a society, the Schwa would evolve into a dot if this was handwritten
Or an open diamond.
or possibly just dropped as it gets dropped from speech
similar to Arabic, ig
I think your schwa would be better as an open diamond ◇ rather than a filled diamond ◆
Mainly because if people were writing this with a pen, a ◇ would be much easier to write than a ◆, which could easily turn into a simple dot.
Other than that, cool! I'm kind of tempted to try out this system of yours except with English sounds...
each writing system is adapted to its environment, latin on stone, some writings on clay or bees wax (tablets) were more of a line system ( similar to 1337). Lindybeige has a video on it.
so I suppose this system would use nanquim (china ink) to write, instead of convencional pens (I guess)
◆ would be way easier to write with a fountain pen.
In which case with nanquim I can easily see over time the language evolving to just use a • rather than a ♦
I can see the open diamond evolving into a circle with repeated casual handwriting, which would be confusing. I'd go for the dot too, but it would make sense for it to be a diamond if people who wrote this used a brush or quill to write. After all, calligraphy is also a form of art. And perhaps this alphabet is used by a computer-savvy society, who knows :)
Keiji Ikari It is based on English sounds.
2016 artifexian : wants oa to use base twelve
2019 artifexian : changes to base dozen four
And everything remains changeable.
base twensy four
CALL IT DOZE- oh wait that is base 6. huh. nevermind the screaming then.
yes@@oleksiiammo7832
In order to make your writing system a bit more "oranic-looking" like Hangul, you might want to think about what the people that would speak and write your language might be using as a medium (carve the glyphs on stone, write on paper using a brush, a quill etc.) and start to "erode" the glyphs like do when handwriting - simulate the natural development of your writing system to smooth out those pointy edges etc.
yes, don't forget that hangul was create for just one human. not like others that form naturally. i'm not saying that koreans don't write naturally, it's just that looks very strict.
Now I'm really, really excited. This is like a hyper-logical Hangul, and the dozenal number system is a very good choice. The diamond-shaped /ə/ is very Arabic, too.
I have a suggestion for the number system; it may be interesting to make 11 resemble 1, 10 resemble 2, 9 resemble 3, and so on. Just a little nod towards how much more, or how much less, than a round 12 the digit is. I've seen it in some dozenal number systems, and I think it might be an interesting idea for your language.
Ted Logan
For some reson, wrriting in base tweleve with arabic numerals confuses me. It's like writing in english with the Phonecian alphabet. It works, to an extent, but not quite. Therefore my advice to you is to try and make your symbols look as dissimilar to arabice numerals as possible in order to avoid this confusion.
I rate his language 6/8 so far. I mean any well thought out language would get 7/8, but his isn't all that great. I mean it still is logical and awesome, but not as appealing as _most_ natural languages, though it may get better as he makes more grammar. 8/8 would be totally natural- basically the conlanger starts with a 200000 year old simple as hell oral language, then creates many dialect continuum so as the species explores most of the world, then drives proto languages, then languages. That would be 8/8
@@parthiancapitalist2733 Not all conlangs have to be natlangs.
@@karlpoppins Some ppl r natlang supremacists
I tried to make three alphabets, two abugidas, an abjad, a featural alphabet and a logographic system, only to make my world seem realistic, and also to make some analogs to real life countries. My mind stopped working when I tried to do my featural alphabet though. I feel dizzy when I see it.
I made my own writing system too, based on lip syncs and featural alphabets, It shows the whole process, example is M, first it's how it's mouth sync is, then how it is pronounced after that, each letter can technically become a vowel or consonant, it's just how it's pronounced, does this language work, I don't think so, I might have the same failure as you
Am I the only one that's going to point out that Oa is the Green Lantern planet?
What has someone stolen the name already!?!?!
/sarcasm
It's been destroyed so I guess it's ok lol
I'm not sure celestial body names have a copyright.
Imaginary worlds within the context of a work of fiction have the same copyright as the work itself and the names of fictional characters within the work so long as it can be proved the original source of the name and it is being used in a similar or derivative manner.
This is why Barsoom remains the copyright property of the Burroughs Estate via the John Carter of Mars novel series.
So, new name needed.
Joseph Teller
Copyright is monopoly, not property.
5:00
“And yes, it will be in base 12.”
*4 years later*
numbering system: in base 16
lol
Even later yet 😅
My main issue is that it takes a lot of different glyphs to type it out on a computer with all the scaling, which is an important consideration in this day and age. Maybe if you didn't scale it like Hangul's in their sylable blocks, it would be simpler.
There's also the issue of dyslexics mixing up a lot of the letters from all the symmetry.
This isn't a terrible writing system or anything, but it definitely has room for improvement.
Agreed. It is by no means perfect. Perfect takes time and sometime the help of a awesome audience base. :)
And sorry if I came of overly critical. My goal was to bring up some issues that probably don't come up much, not to pointlessly bash your script.
+Artifexian The Koreans do well enough typing Hangul, just go onto Google Translate and select Korean and keyboard, not really an issue when it's already been done.
It's actually impossible to make that into a fonr :/
Not really. It's just slightly more complicated.
Hey, Artifexian.
It's been over an year now, how's your language going?
He isn't working on it anymore, he just used it as an example for his early conlanging videos
I was creating a language. That language has two ways for write: Latin Alphabet (with diacritics) and Hangul (using old hangul characters)
Check in
He is still working on it sometimes.
I learned hangul and this looks cursed af
I thought your system was very elegant. I also just learned Hangul, so this was nice and smooth :)
why does he sound so sensual at 1:45
Más papacito más más más
Quierooooo esooooooooo
Sounds like a minecraft villager
@@devonoknabo2582 as a native spanish speaker that hurts to read.
Fuck of now I can't unhear it
For those of you who don't know what Hangeul is, it's the alphabet of the Korean language (also known as Chosungul in North Korea). It's considered to be rather beautiful and highly logical, with the "y" sound (like in "ya") being represented by an added stroke to the vowel (an example being "ㅏ", which makes an "a" sound, becoming "ㅑ", which makes a "ya" sound.) They also generally use a line to indicate when a consonant is aspirated, like when "ㄷ", which makes a "d" sound, becomes "ㅌ", which makes a "t" sound. It's really beautiful and crazy easy to learn, and I would definitely suggest learning it, and Korean as a whole. 파이팅, and good learning!
There's nothing wrong with copying Hangul - do what works! Personally, I'm fond of Japanese orthography, with complicated semantic letters indicating meaning and simpler phonetic letters describing the grammar. It's a system I'd like to use as a frame of reference if I ever actually get around to working on a conlang.
Those kana smiley faces though...love em :)
@@Artifexian シ
As a linguistics lover and a Korean I found your Oa really interesting. :O Please keep going!
I love the look of Korean and your language Oa. It is so cool. I'd love to learn it when you are finished.
go base twelve!
Go hexadecimal!
base 12 for the win!
Octal is the master race!
Octal is cool too
HEX HEX Hex!
Jk, I'll always love dozenal
0:45 Hey! That could be a language, you draw those lines for the start of the sound, then the end of the sound, and the reader infers on the in between part. Sort of like what you did, but you can write whole words by showing change over time
This is really interesting and I am really excited to see that there are other people trying to invent their own writing systems and languages as well! I've taught myself Hangul, Cyrillic, Hiragana, Katakana, about 150++ Kanji and Filipino's Baybayin. I already invented a writing system derived from Baybayin but I modified it to suit the Malay pronunciation and other Nusantara languages specifically languages in the Northern Borneo like Rungus and Dusun. As for now, I am the only one who can write and read it proficiently. I don't know how to publish it or anything. I showed it to my friends and they were like, your writing system is too complicated T..T And I was like, compared to Thai or Arabic, my writing system is far more simpler T..T
Hello, I'm a Syrian Arab, I'm thinking about sending a message via messenger to send me a picture of your writing system
@@user-tc3cd5mg1r sure
@@user-tc3cd5mg1r on which platform you want to have a chat?
@@lyonnw7691 Yes of Corse
@@user-tc3cd5mg1r في اي تطبيق تريدني ان ارسال لك my writing system؟
لانني لا استخدم الفيسبوك.
Maybe via Instagram or Telegram?
An idea to "de-fugly-ify" Oa might be to take even more from Hangul's origin and use brush strokes.
A lot of what makes East Asian writing (Chinese, Japanese, Korean, etc) appear so pretty is the specific stroke order combined with actual brushes in traditional writing. That appearance then became common in numerous fonts for printing as well.
Maybe utilize a different writing tool, different stroke order, or maybe find another part of the world with similar writing history to work from. But I honestly think if you were to consider the history of how people literally 'wrote' the characters you might be able to make your characters look much more elegant and realistic.
When are you getting your unicode block?
I got the same idea while looking the video !
im gonna make it bitch
in a font
now or never
Either use hangul or Romanize.
My only question is... would it be natural for a people to create a writing system based on anatomy? I mean, to create a language after some advances in medicine could be done, okay, but to advance in medicine, you need science and scientists, and for them to work efficiently, you need them to be able to write their research papers, right?
Don't get me wrong, this system works, as long as there has been other written languages before it, I simply wouldn't believe a "primitive" people (understand a 3000-BC-like people who just started counting their sheeps) could come up with it. Since you start your videos with "let's world build", I assume there is some context, but since you don't give one, I'm just lost in assuming every scenario possible :p
Hangul is exactly that. A writing system devised based on anatomy to bring science and literature to the masses.
***** oh it's based on anatomy? I guess I gotta look up some history stresspoints...
Korean immediately pops into my mind. Check out Xidnaf's video (Just be sure to mute the intro).
Xidnaf's video on Hangul explains it really well
DP Trumann Yeah I just saw it
This is really neat, and I definitely saw the parallel to Hangul. Now, I'm curious to see if there is a way to write this language in calligraphy, or at least in some form of cursive. A lot of languages are known for having this feature, so would this be possible in Oa?
I am writing on my first novel since 2012. It is set on a fictional planet where they calculate in base 12 and write with capital, semicapital and minor letters from right to left and speak a language I'm still developing but already translated a poem I wrote myself. I always thought I was the only person who does such crazy things and tells people about it. Then I found this channel! I feel home
0:26 Veritasium T-shirt!
Grats on your increasing popularity Artifexian! It's crazy seeing your subscriber count going up so fast
yup,oa is just like advanced hangul
Im doing research on base 10 counting and redefining Pi to be a rational number (Pi is infinite, yet a circle is finite, you can trace a circle and make it back to a starting point, but calculating mathematically in base 10 gives you either just under or just over). This video of yours has given me a lot more to ponder in my research as mathematics is but a language of numbers. I’ve already given credit to the ancient babylonians on their base 60 count, to the Egyptians, Eastern Asia and Hebrew for my findings so far and I’m also giving credit to you for sparking an idea I haven’t had previously for me to continue in my line of research. Where you’ve created your own way of representing speech, I will create my own method of counting that will allow a « bend » in numbers to calculate the fundamentals of existence (atoms that comprise everything are not square yet base 10 and 12 counting are square and only give approximations to non-linear and non-square values). Counting systems were devised before we had a fundamental understanding of what comprised whatever we were counting. A square block of wood is a composition of circular/oval atomic clusters that only appear square however atomically have curved edges and spaces between each atom that are constantly shifting, a square is not really a square. You’ve given me an idea to account for such a flux, cheers for your wisdom
I think it should be base 16. It would make your language so much easier for computers, as they do base 2, and 16 is 2^4. Plus, Hexadecimal won’t be a thing, it’ll just be numbers.
Plus you are going for a more logical approach, I think base 16 would not only be more logical, but cool too!
Base 16 is already a thing tho
bro's a time traveler
Here's a fun question for duodecimalists (such as myself):
How best to manage dialogue involving characters from a duodecimal culture? I.e. "The castle gate is guarded by sixty men." (60 decimal = 50 duodecimal) Do you have the character say:
- The castle gate is guarded by sixty men (i.e. conversion)
- The castle gate is guarded by fifty men (i.e. accurate but not explicit)
- The castle gate is guarded by five dozen men (i.e. accurate and explicit)
Oh, and! Neat job with the writing system and thanks for the links to Hangul.
Hey artifexian! I am really interested in your script. And as some advice, it's nice to have variation in languages, it gives it character. Maybe you should make a proto form of the language first so for example a word like mokalo would evolve into a word with Schwa (mokalo>mokëlë> moklë) and this would be spelt the original way or be spelt like "moklo" without the Schwa letter. I am looking forward to this language please start the videos again!
Could you make a video modifying Hangul? Like adding a symbol for “V” and “F”. It’d be quite an interesting watch!
Despite some time passed from creation of this script, I'll try to adopt it for Chinese.
4:59 : and we're still waiting two years later
It's not a ripoff, your phonemes are different from hangul!
4:42 You know that a phi-squared to phi ratio can be simplified? Just divide both sides by phi, and you have a phi-to-one ratio. Just like the individual blocks.
One of the things I like to think about when creating conlangs is inclusiveness, or lack thereof. For instance, people who are blind are required to learn the braille alphabet in order to read English. Similarly, the Deaf community uses ASL instead of/alongside English. Do you think the Oa writing system could be understood by people who are blind if the letters were raised, or would you need an Oa braille? Similarly, would it be easy to understand Oa by reading lips if the observer were deaf? Finally, would be language be difficult for people with stutters, or issues with speech due to brain dysfunction/post-stroke? I'd love to get thoughts on this.
Dude, that's really clever! There's a brilliant logic behind it that I really love! It kind of reminds me of the alphabet I worked on for my conlang. Stops had the most jagged letters, through to vowels which had the most fluid letters, and voiced consonants had a mark added onto their voiceless counterparts. I also made a separate letter for digraphs, which blend together elements from their constituent consonants.
Can't wait to learn me some Oa in the future ^^
I also came out with my own writing system! It's a combination of the English alphabets, the Mandarin and Bahasa grammar, writing forms like Arabian, and it sounds like Thai. Hahahaha. So cool that you also came out with your won writing system too!
4:03
ao trao aort traort
I really want to see the video about your number system. I created one there is base 12-60, like 12 as a small base and 60 as the big base. The numbers go up to 6, with the symbols having the numbers of lines or "sticks" of the number, I, V, Y, X, ¥(with only one line) and X crossed by a line. Then, you put a dot at the top of it to 7-11 numbers, from every dozen you add a symbol that represent that dozen (-,+,triangle, square) and then when it reach 60 you add +1 at the left of the numbers and start again, like our system
looks like hangul it has a same base too
Yes he based the system on hangul
The only problem I can think of is the vowels that aren't accounted for - 1) Short o, as in pop. 2) Short i, as in bit. 3) Long u as in tube. 4) Short "oo," as in book. 5) Putting the letter i before an unvoiced consonant leads to a different vowel sound, "igh," as in like, height, and pipe.
If your going base 12 then why do you have 13 symbols?
theFizzyNator I say this because you're not supposed to have a glyph for the base your in, that's why we don't have a symbol for ten
You're assuming a system with place value like the Hindu-Arabic numeral system we use. If that were the case, you'd be right, since 12 would be written one-zero.
But... What I think is happening here is something closer to the Sino-Japanese system, but in base 12. So, 12 would be written [twelve], thirteen would be [twelve-one], 24 would be [two-twelve-zero], 50 would be [four-twelve-two], and so on.
Anyway, it's supposed to be based on the Mayan numeral system, so I guess look that up for more info.
most likely that symbol is zero.
0 to 11.
12 digits?
Jason D sooo basically you brought an irrelevant number system that nobody here uses into the picture.... only to then admit you know nothing of the RELEVANT number system that nobody uses.... meaning you have nothing to contribute? Why, bro....
I feel like the only person whose not going crazy over Hangul. Personally, the Ge'ez really captures my attention a lot more.
Everyone knows that “doobly-doo” means the description.
Your writing system actually looks very futuristic and clean! If ANYTHING is so ugly as to get the letter "f" attached to the word, it would've the featural writing system I'm making for my conlang, Checkish (that's the English name for it. I'm on my phone so I can't type its name using its own romanization system).
0:19 That text says "jo no jo ləv mi, ai no jo kar"
You know you love me, I know you care
I made a sort of ripoff of this for English with a base roof line, top Line is base, front is lips, middle is teeth or roof, and back is velar. Top line is nasal, bottom line is voiced or unvoiced. Instead of stretching the glyphs, I just put a “placeholder” line. I see the awesomeness of a system like this, as I have already memorized it in one day haha. It looks like hieroglyphics to be honest
Did the punctuation or number system get finished?
I've been into Unicode recently and decided to calculate how many possible syllable blocks are possible with this and the prior phonotactics video. It came out to 27 225 total possible syllables. This would come to 0x6A59 in hexadecimal which is almost half of an entire Unicode Plane. If this was officially accepted, it could possibly fit into the Tertiary Ideographic Plane (Plane 3), though realistically it would go into a Private Use Area, of which planes 15 and 16 would be the only places where they could fit.
Of course this is encoding entire syllable blocks as individual codepoints. The alternative is to just have the individual letters and then rely on the font/rendering system to compile them into discrete blocks. This would only require a measly 29 codepoints, but also more advanced support from software.
Phi ratio for the glyphs? Base 12 number system? Will u marry me lmao
The idea that your language's writing system can also convey instructions on how to speak it is quite interesting. Imagine how examining an ancient, dead language but the writing system itself explains how it should sound. Something like that would be an interesting idea to play with, at least in a fictional setting. Such a language could be devised as like a form of a Rosetta stone for other languages.
I've never used my teet to speak.
But you just used the word “i’ve”.
‘V’ is created with your lips touching your teet
You're making me extremely excited to see the rest of the series
I am working on a language and I think I will use the Oa Writing system! Thank You! +Artifexian
PackerFan Gamer. Don't copy
Ancient languages and history He is not copying, is English copying Latin for using its writing system? No. He is telling him, that is good.
What an interesting idea. Through history many languages have taken someone else’s writing system, and just morphed it to suit their needs.
David Sullivan Like the Polish Writing System
What’s the point of a language if it doesn’t spread? As long as @packerFan gamer doesn’t pass this invention off as his own, but merely uses it, I think it’s great
Him: "Links in the doobly doo"
Me: '~~~~~~~~~~~~~'
Am I the only one who thought he'd just messed with some Hangul?
He stated the similarity. So, I don't believe so.
Sean Freeman few of the "characters" or whatever remind me of hangul
The letter for K is almost the same
It is exactly Hangul. :P He only replaced the shapes, kind of. Right from featural part to making the blocks. Can't blame him though, Hangul is that awesome. Even I was trying to "invent" a hangul inspired syllabary for Hindi.
You're the only one stupid enough to say this about something he OPENLY claimed.
please do something on writing systems in general
I love myself a systematic and phonetic writing system, I made one before I knew about IPA and it appears a lot more organic because of it. It ended up evolving in three stages, increasing in space efficiency before reaching a usable state.
Oa looks really promising, but I'm not sold on the strict angles and lines in the alphabet, and although I'm all for the base 12 numerical system, are you trying to create perfect linguistic and numerical systems? What would that say about the society that uses it?
A perfectionist society that strives to insert logic into everything
@@tofferooni4972 So, Vulcans?
I used the writing system for my own language=Vleman-Oa. According to a rule,if a /K / followed by an /S/ sound, it makes the sound “kht”. Example the word “moivaks” ,which means “rackets”, makes the sound “môyväkhs”
Personally I would go top to bottom, left to right.
Isn't that exactly what he's doing?
@@aeaeeaoiauea For sentences he is, for individual words he... Well, he also is, but each syllable gets broken down. I think OP is saying to make the words all run in a line instead of back and forth syllables.
@@keithklassen5320 Then it'd just be a featural alphabet instead of a featural syllabary?
Oh my gosh, this is simple, but brilliant! I love the inspiration from how the mouth moves to create the glyphs.
Looks like Hangul. But I mean, this is basically how Hangul was invented.
Wrong.
He literally said he was inspired by Hangeul
Chantal Said nope, Hangul was taken from 'Phags-pa
@@shkrmkr no, i am right.
I would love it if you could make a community around Oa once it's nearly complete. Maybe you or someone else could even make a font pack for Oa so that we can type Oa. Conlanging is a great art that can be taken in so many different directions, so I love almost every single one I come across.
Yup! I would be totally up for talking/writing in Oa if and when I complete it.
I could make a font pack for Oa on FontStruct easily, but if you want it set up correctly, Hangul style-ish, I could also create an AutoHotKey script and release it as a .exe file to work on computers without AutoHotKey. My script would automatically detect when you're combining certain letters, and turn them into their own solid glyph, meaning the font pack itself would be packed with every possible combination of glyphs. Along with this, you need to find a way to use custom fonts on a website, to have conversations and literary works in Oa.
Oh boy, with the way your writing system blends all of the letters together while creating syllables, I'd have to make it in something _other_ than FontStruct, most likely, if I want your writing system for Oa to still contain all of the features that it has, with all of the stretching and shrinking going on.
I have decided on a base 11 number system for my language. Yay for base primes!
I'm still working out the kinks in my writing system, though. It's an abugida, but with consonants tacked onto vowels instead of the other way around. It's also a vertical script.
The feeling is dawning on me that I've made things quite complicated for myself. Whoops.
Nah. I got it all to work out just fine.
every fraction: 0.1 = 1/11 0.26???????? REPEATING FEACTIONS ALMOST EVRY WHERE
It's ok though. Fractions can be easily measured not only in elevenths, but also in fifths, tenths and fifty-fifths due to how my language handles these numbers. If people want to say a half they'll just ask for five parts of ten. In other words, my language doesn't use undecimals at all. For really precise numbers smaller units of measurement are used instead, if using fractions is too bothersome.
Oh, and repeating fractions isn't actually really a problem. It's only a problem if you want to convert to other number systems.
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I just like base 2. It's like the most logical and simple thing you can use. But it would be a bit boring, I like your idea.
Just an update... at about 5:03 he says the number system will be base 12. Well as of the writing of this comment, the oa numbers are out, and they are base 16. Edger did seem to want 12 but changed his mind while talking to a guest host in the video.
If the Schwa and the period are the same, how can you tell the difference?
The Schwa is a small diamond, but the period is a dot. However the number 0 is also a small diamond, but I also think this is intentional as "0" might just be pronounced with a single schwa.
There could be a grammar rule for that
I just so happened to stumble across your channel and fell absolutely in love!! I created my own writing system when I was a teen so watching this was a complete joy, new subscriber :)
Why does every sound have an "a or ə" in it at the end?
fzeromaster2 it’s a linguistic convention to make it obvious which sound you’re articulating, since most consonants can’t really be articulated on their own
Yea! Base 12!
I think the tilting to vertical makes things a confusing to someone encountering the language with no instructions , however the fact that "actual" horizontal lines are thicker than the "actual" vertical lines helps out there
First time here:
Uhhh, inspired by the Korean one, I was always thinking of creating an Alphabet inspired by it!
~sees alphabet~
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Also, you word things interestingly and the sidebar is intriguing. Looking forward to exploring your content!
I found this a while ago and thought you might like it. His entire blog is great.
4:05 it looks alittle bit Korean XD
it's based around that idea.
AShookKookie - 아숰쿠키 tru
Neetoryu Kun It's not based on it.
It just takes some inspiration from it, since both are attempts to make a highly simplified and logical writing system.
Ikr!
that’s the point
Glad to see the love for Hangul among conlangers 🥰
So you've redone Hangul :'). It looks nice though.
This is better than Hangul.
I've designed a rune writing with almost 70 glyphs avaliable! each glyph is minimalized so no character will exceed 3 strokes. I achived that by appying the same ascender/descender system that latin letter uses, but the style is basically all RUNIC!
You missed making a letter for the 'th' sound. Oh, right, you don't use it..😂
Basica.ly damn bro
I can only approve your decision of taking hangul as the main source of inspiration for your writing system (even if no one cares about my approval, but I give it anyway ;p ). Hangul is by far the most simple, efficient and elegant writing system I know. Excellent choice!
It looks fairly easily distinguishable in this sort of typed form (and I don't think it's ugly), but have you thought about how handwriting would look in this system? As it looks now, it looks too angular and requiring strokes from very different angles to write out, which would It would make writing it by hand fairly slow. If whatever culture you're ascribing it to is at a point in its history where the majority of the population can read and write, some faster way of writing will have developed which might be a lot less orderly.
I agree. When we all write English, how many of us write "r"s with the little pointy thing, or just write it in one stroke. "E"s: Do any of you write it like a backwards three? "n" with the pointys? Same for "p", "u" and "b"? See?
@@completeepicness5070 I know almost no one who writes like that.
Writing system like Hangul and a Base 12 number system. You haven't even made any words yet and your language is already better than English! :D
(Okay, maybe not. But you get my point.)
I am studying linguistics too :)
But isn't learning from internet the same thing as studying?
Sávio SG Exactly, it is. If you are studying things on the internet you are still studying @Author Cat Studios-toogletoggleOfTheCats
Which is what I'm currently doing as well. Though I do plan on getting a PhD in linguistics at a university :)
I wish I could get ones in all other kinds of sciences though, but it would take too many years. I might as well learn other sciences on the side. It shouldn't be impossible to get to PhD level knowledge with other subjects on my own once I properly know what I'm studying...
So, we are 3 :D. But I am not planning to get a PhD.
This is specially depressing for me since it's the second time within the past hour that I discover that someone already shared with the world some awesome work that in my case sat still and became nothing more than just good ideas in paper.
Using the sagittal plane of the head to make the glyphs in a featural way and the vowels being pictograms of the mouth! Seriously, it feels to me as if I invented this writing system before you back in 2010! I can't believe someone beat me at publishing my own good ideas.
Keep up the awesome work! Even if I didn't release it I want to see you achieving something great with it. It has A LOT of potential!
This idea has been had in its entirety hundreds or thousands of times.
You're probably like number 249,867 to have this idea.
He's just the first person with an audience to take the time to describe it and actually flesh it out.
If we count the people who had the idea but didn't think much into it, the idea has surely been had many millions of times.
Hangul (which was invented nearly 600 years ago) has the same idea, so don't feel too bad about it. It's not about the idea, but rather the *expression* of it.
(edit: accidentally used had instead of has)
jo no jo lǝv mi ai no jo kaɹ text at the beginning what dose it mean artifexian!
You'll have to wait and see. But well spotted.
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The subtitles on that video make it even better.
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Ermahgerd, I completely forgot about this channel. Glad you're back! I really like the writing system, it's so logical
SO COOL
Aw! Cheers, buddy. Glad you enjoyed.
I tried so hard to make something like this, but because i decided my writing system was going to be rune-like (which means no horizontal lines), the fact that my conlang had consonant clusters of three and that i wanted them to be stuck together meant that i never became quite satisfied with it.
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when i saw your letters in the creating a writing system video i was like they remind me of hangeul... glad to see im not crazy lol
and i always appreciate people who also nerd out about how awesome hangeul is lol
base 12 is amazing
yes it is
i always thought that writing down then left would be superior than any other way (as opposed to left then down you're reading right now), it is natural for the hand to move towards the chest when you wright. i realized this out while drawing and found myself tilting the paper so that a line would be formed vertically downwards on the paper. it made drawing straight easier. and writing lines ordered left to right will make about 89% of people happy the remaining 11% are lefties and will be disappointed when they get ink, paint or coal on their hand. when you write this way you will find that you can see the text growing on the paper without your (right) hand obscuring things you've already written, making it easier to line up the text orderly.
What does whanaver mean? I saw that word at the end
whenever
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