As soon as i saw the buildup for "master of baits" i knew that this translation is on another level! It keeps you guessing just like it was in the original language, on top of having that sudden 180° when you hear the clarification. You kept the ""suspense"" of the original while changing the payoff for a localized version. Some professional translators have hard time pulling this stuff off but here it sounds so fluid and in-tone with the conversation! I have hard time describing just how rare it is to see stuff like this in general, even including film and game translations. Just know that i absolutely love you, whoever you are!
For real; I can't imagine how hard it is to translate jokes/puns from one language to another when the sentence structures and words as a whole aren't going to be similar enough. Super clever and well done!
The translator not only got the denotation correct in the beginning, but also pay attention to the connotation and context of the situation and adjust the translation accordingly as well. Able to determine both at the same time is serious skill. éĪ(esa) = literally means "bait". It is a 1-to-1 translation. But then Niu went a little direct and said ããã(okazu) which literally means side dish, but it extends to also mean whatever content people consume "on the side" while fapping. There's no equal 1-to-1 translation for Okazu (probably fapping material), but add "master of" will make majority of people understands. The switch from 1-to-1 translation to a pun that is equally surprising revelation in Japanese is very clever. I am kind of dissecting the frog here, but seeing a great translation is like seeing someone cook up a great meal, just makes me want to do a chef's kiss.
GOD DAMN OBORETAI, Translating éĪ(esa) which means "fodder, pet food, or lure" into bait AND PERFECTLY TRANSITIONING that into Master of the Baits when you're translating the word ãč(Okazu) which means Side Dish or Master Baiting Material. You're fucking cracked. Thanks Oboretai
Okay yeah I'm watching the whole VOD. It really feels like a VSaikyo season now. All these Apex collabs with different people. AsuNiu is popular but Sena has always had good banter with Astel. Niu is like bully-me energy but Sena is like on the same level as Astel with the banters.
Oh nice, it's been a while I got to see a Niu clip, couldn't find any Niu clipper and I don't understand Japanese. The whole Niu x Astel the menace is buried by them but I'm sure they're still gonna pull funny stuff
Itâs japan, not everyone cheats but they really are a product of their own lewd culture. A male japanese friend of mine who is in a 5 year relationship with his cute gf often cheats with other females and gays/somewhat trans and would still be feeling sad whenever he has problems with his gf or they are in a brink of breaking up. I just donât understand them.
Yoooo AsNiu + Sena clip! Glad to see the combo back! Thank for the clip ^^ Kinda sad that the part where Astel tried to roleplay the "red flag bf" with Niu to better understand her story and was asked by Sena if he has experience acting like that in a past relationship was cut from the clip. If you're planning to make more clips from this stream, I think that's a good one to include in the next one ^^;
Yeah maybe, just maybe the izakaya was excusable if he didn't contact the girl again (which he did) but fapping to girls from dating apps is a massive red flag.
Vtuber brain is different cuz why they went from eating potatoes to Astel explaining the nuances of f*pping. Thanks for the clip, im glad to see activity on your own channel.
@@Anungmation I watched the stream live but couldn't catch everything they said. Though I thought everyone agreed before that he would be a menhara creation machine lol....
I'm glad to see them again. Astel Apex has some fun content lately, His Vsai team in their did well. I think Astel hasn't worked with she for a long time because holostars is very busy and has a lot going on in the company. which I began to understandð
thank you for the clip~ though, i suggest changing the thumbnail for astel's png because he recently tweeted out a second reminder to not use his old default design for thumbnails or there might be a risk for it to be taken down edit: alr changed~ thank you once again oboretai!
@@Fishman465 dw, nothing bad happened! astel just doesn't use his old design anymore and would like people to use his other models to promote him through clips n stuffs
âââ@@bdzzzEver since he became 3D on his 2nd anni when it became clear the conductor outfit was the new default, not the space suit It became even clearer on his 3rd anni live and after, where the old default got its own 3D for lore reasons, making it explicit that Astel considers that outfit to belong to an entirely different person Tl;dr, old default is not a part of Holostars, thus should never be used to represent him
Welcome back! and congrats on getting monetization again! Glad to see an AsNiu clip again. Wish they did more interactions and not once in a while situations.
Poor Niu! If only she wasn't so cute when jealous or being teased ðAlthough the girls are totally right here Also, "potato" is just what they call chips in JP. They aren't, like, biting into a potato like an apple ð
I'm 100% agree with Astel. Imagining your GF while baiting is basically a turn off switch ð. unless you actually doing it with her, like I might not able to talk properly when meet this girl next time lol. It's not about moral or anything it's just easier to use another figure for baiting cause you just don't give an F about them
Yeah, that's the whole point of Porn, which is rather sad and quite frankly a net negative for us humans imo. Its the same reason why one of the LoL player could no longer " bait " towards Eva Elfie because he befriended her irl. For me personally I dont think masturbaiting towards your GF/wife is a weird thing when you have their sexy pics, and I'd personally watch Porn with them altogether if they wanted to .
@@yumi8704 like I said unless I actually doing with her, just beating my meat alone for relieving while imagining the GF make me feel disgusted of myselfð. Other people probably have different perspectives which is fine. The thing is when you watching corn while baiting you don't care for the person in the video they just like virtually there, but your GF is someone you already bonded and love and you care for this person, you not objectifying her. Again I don't mind people who think the otherwise maybe their GF is just that good looking ð
Niu being called a "losing heroine" is so true. Her interaction with Astel is already a glimpse to her personality, the story just further proves it ð Love the "Master of bait" translation. Set up using the same word éĪ/bait but end with "master of bait" pun because ããã doesn't have a translation that is both equivalent in context and definition. *chef's kiss*
Who would even think about cheating on someone as cute as Niu? That guy just wasn't ready to be in a committed relationship I guess. Hearing Niu talk about why getting other women's contacts while dating already could be seen as cheating was eye opening to me, as I hadn't previously understood why. It does make sense, why are you still searching when you already have someone? I'm glad Astel also pointed out how monkey brain guys can get, especially when they're together. But yeah, even the monkey brain excuse wouldn't be able to excuse Niu's ex, from in her dream of course Welcome back to your own channel, and thanks for the clip with Astel and Niu! It's nice to see they're still friendly enough to banter as usual, even after a year!
I hope it's just for entertainment but if it's real, man Niu is really gullible and I kinda worried for her. Like based on the past clips, she always dropped a bomb out of nowhere unknowingly.
The first incident was questionable but not necessarily bad I suppose so? Depends. The second one though I'd say was definitely a red flag and not just eh. Out of all of the sources for materials, the guy went to various dating sites for it? I highly doubt that honestly. Chances as he was cheating already or trying to pick up some other girls or so. And that's just the second one...Don't really know the full story but sheesh. In any case, just got here randomly but do hope the lass be doing well and knows better now ey. Don't know her that well but wishing em well. Best wishes to the rest of em as well.
thats just most people ship tbh, theres only few people(u can count them with ur finger) that are shipped together and still do collab often most of them that have annoying antis/fans collab once a couple month or years lmao
I'll be honest, Asniu alone just doesn't work for me but exception for this kind of convo and their banter, which is why astel first interaction with niu was always been one of my favourite vtuber first interaction and memorable moments because at that time there's vtuber gorrila that join their banter. I really don't remember, was it during aqf scrim or the vsaikou season 5 official scrim was their first interaction? The only thing I remember is vtuber gorrila was streaming at that time while astel just hopping around queuing if there's any empty slot for training.
6:02 Okazu? Master of baits? I'm still pondering which one this one refers to, for hooking up or for 'stroking' your neo armstrong cyclone jet armstrong cannon with. nevermind, lmao
I get about the p**n though, but using dating apps is kinda questionable. Idk, just doesnt sit right with me bcs that means you are in contact to the actual person right?? The exception is they just dont meet face to face, but still you chatting and can actually meet them. I mean its easy to access p**n/sexy/hot pic. Now even easier. Theres lot of sexy pic in social media. Why you gotta make an effort asking from dating apps?
Honestly, master baiting to another girls DM's wouldn't be acceptable, for me at least, personal connection or not But some girls are ok with so he should've at least asked Niu beforehand if she'd tolerate it
From dream to telling it for real quick. Poor Niu Dating/Marriage culture in Japanese is weird. If you visit host club/red light district doesn't consider cheating. Because âYour heart still with herâ is the most bullcrap I've ever heard. âSo basically I didn't cheat on you if my heart is still for youâ. You be surprised hearing this from random people in Japanese dating scene.
master are baiting asumi is crazy
asumi master baiting and go to heaven is the most insane moment in stream....
As soon as i saw the buildup for "master of baits" i knew that this translation is on another level! It keeps you guessing just like it was in the original language, on top of having that sudden 180° when you hear the clarification.
You kept the ""suspense"" of the original while changing the payoff for a localized version. Some professional translators have hard time pulling this stuff off but here it sounds so fluid and in-tone with the conversation!
I have hard time describing just how rare it is to see stuff like this in general, even including film and game translations. Just know that i absolutely love you, whoever you are!
For real; I can't imagine how hard it is to translate jokes/puns from one language to another when the sentence structures and words as a whole aren't going to be similar enough. Super clever and well done!
The translator not only got the denotation correct in the beginning, but also pay attention to the connotation and context of the situation and adjust the translation accordingly as well. Able to determine both at the same time is serious skill.
éĪ(esa) = literally means "bait". It is a 1-to-1 translation.
But then Niu went a little direct and said ããã(okazu) which literally means side dish, but it extends to also mean whatever content people consume "on the side" while fapping. There's no equal 1-to-1 translation for Okazu (probably fapping material), but add "master of" will make majority of people understands. The switch from 1-to-1 translation to a pun that is equally surprising revelation in Japanese is very clever.
I am kind of dissecting the frog here, but seeing a great translation is like seeing someone cook up a great meal, just makes me want to do a chef's kiss.
I really like Asumi and Astel's bit cause they always play with fire hahaha
0:04 Niu's rigging is actually insane.
To be honest her rig is always Great, follow her stream and you'll see how less she uses that emote
GOD DAMN OBORETAI, Translating éĪ(esa) which means "fodder, pet food, or lure" into bait AND PERFECTLY TRANSITIONING that into Master of the Baits when you're translating the word ãč(Okazu) which means Side Dish or Master Baiting Material. You're fucking cracked. Thanks Oboretai
That dream was long enough to make a plot about NTR anime ð what a bad dream
Sad that Niu got to experience that. Hopefully she'll have more good things to come to her
What do you mean bro? It's just a dream
@@Odqfh âIn a dreamâ sounds like how âin Minecraftâ is used ngl
@@Odqfh My bad, you're right
Bro it's just her dream experienceð
"We haven't collabed for a year cus we don't want people to find out"
*slam desk* I KNEW IT!!
/s
Ngl best advice session I've watched in a while, in a dream of course
I kinda missed them, didn't even noticed their last interaction was more than one year ago, time flies by.
Thanks for the clip.
"We're dumb, when there's 2 dudes, we're just chimpanzees"
I'm laughing too hard at this one xDDDD
what a personal discussion, luckily it's all just a dream
Holy based Astel omg, the man gets it
As someone who understands Japanese I think your translation of ãč was insanely good, really did justice to the term imo great work lol
shows how chad our fav clipper is
Mind explaining it? Sadly, I can only read hiragana and katakana.
@@grimoireweiss3099 "Okazu" or side-dish, is a slang for jack-off material.
@@grimoireweiss3099 "Okazu" is basically the word for "side-dish", it's a common euphemism for fap material in Japan.
ââ@@grimoireweiss3099ãčïžãããïžmean side dish ; the urban dictionary version refered here is "side dish" (material) for masturbating
YepâĶ. Thatâs my kami oshi right there lmao.
I will always be here for new Astel and Niu clips. Canât get enough
Okay yeah I'm watching the whole VOD. It really feels like a VSaikyo season now. All these Apex collabs with different people. AsuNiu is popular but Sena has always had good banter with Astel. Niu is like bully-me energy but Sena is like on the same level as Astel with the banters.
6:15 the puns are insane, especially with Asumi's name oh lord
godlike translations, love your clips!
I miss Astel + Niu clips, they're always have nice banter when they collab, hopefully we'll see more of it
I still think Niu got one of the best vtuber tracking in the world! Its so crazy expressive
Neo-porte's models are underrated. their designs and tracking are quite insane.
true her expressiveness is truly on a whole another level
@@litlsteps8486 You are so right! I especially love Tentei Fortes model
Oh nice, it's been a while I got to see a Niu clip, couldn't find any Niu clipper and I don't understand Japanese. The whole Niu x Astel the menace is buried by them but I'm sure they're still gonna pull funny stuff
seems this is from a new stream, glad niu astel are still collabing after the silly hater thing with the rust stuff
â@@Despotic_Waffle yes, a stream a day ago (from the time here) I am really happy :D
Seeing Niu and Astel together again is a great surprise, they are so cute together.
I like how we have Roberu NightMea and then we have La Creturas
Nah, my man must be nuts to even think cheating a cute girl like Niu
but many are like that, and most of them are not even on the same level as their partnerð
Lol welcome to the real worldð. Circumstances like this happen almost everyday in this planet
Itâs japan, not everyone cheats but they really are a product of their own lewd culture. A male japanese friend of mine who is in a 5 year relationship with his cute gf often cheats with other females and gays/somewhat trans and would still be feeling sad whenever he has problems with his gf or they are in a brink of breaking up. I just donât understand them.
You've seen her?
@@MichaelKing015 no, but can't I just find someone cute based on her voice or demeanor?
I love how Astel and Asumi assumption is so right lol, Like you knew Niu would do something like that and she actually did ð
Yeah that man she dated was a red flag
Japan dating culture is a red flag
Yoooo AsNiu + Sena clip! Glad to see the combo back! Thank for the clip ^^
Kinda sad that the part where Astel tried to roleplay the "red flag bf" with Niu to better understand her story and was asked by Sena if he has experience acting like that in a past relationship was cut from the clip. If you're planning to make more clips from this stream, I think that's a good one to include in the next one ^^;
Nah Astel is dropping facts after facts here
Great to see this banter back again, even if it was just a dream.
I agree with astel about "reach" lol
Also I'm glad to see clips showing from this channel again
This trio is yabai
girl... she said it wasn't proper cheating but that's outright cheating.
Yeah maybe, just maybe the izakaya was excusable if he didn't contact the girl again (which he did) but fapping to girls from dating apps is a massive red flag.
Love me some Astel clips
Vtuber brain is different cuz why they went from eating potatoes to Astel explaining the nuances of f*pping.
Thanks for the clip, im glad to see activity on your own channel.
What the heck did I just watch.
astel-san is on another level.
Classic.
Aw i wish you also include the scumbag boyfriend rp but great translation nonetheless
The topic also goes on to what Asumi and Niu think what trope Astel falls into, so I really recommended to watch the full stream
hello, nice seeing you here! your clips helped me discover holostars back in ye olden days. glad you're still supporting them!
@@Anungmation I watched the stream live but couldn't catch everything they said. Though I thought everyone agreed before that he would be a menhara creation machine lol....
The level of adaptation and translation is insane, fantastic job., professional level out there.
I'm been waiting for your clip after i saw astel collab arigatou ne for the clip
Damn, they touched a sensitive topic for Niu but kudos to her for handling it well and actually shared her story, i meant her dream.
I'm glad to see them again.
Astel Apex has some fun content lately, His Vsai team in their did well.
I think Astel hasn't worked with she for a long time because holostars is very busy and has a lot going on in the company. which I began to understandð
The translation was insanely good. Thank you fellas!
thank you for the clip~
though, i suggest changing the thumbnail for astel's png because he recently tweeted out a second reminder to not use his old default design for thumbnails or there might be a risk for it to be taken down
edit: alr changed~ thank you once again oboretai!
What on earth happened to cause that?
@@Fishman465 dw, nothing bad happened! astel just doesn't use his old design anymore and would like people to use his other models to promote him through clips n stuffs
â@katariri when did he change ?
âââ@@bdzzzEver since he became 3D on his 2nd anni when it became clear the conductor outfit was the new default, not the space suit
It became even clearer on his 3rd anni live and after, where the old default got its own 3D for lore reasons, making it explicit that Astel considers that outfit to belong to an entirely different person
Tl;dr, old default is not a part of Holostars, thus should never be used to represent him
@@heerotomoe I mean is it that big of a deal
Impeccable translation!
Just father mother asking their daughter love experience xD w
Just imagined Astel the dad dating his daughter for a bit from the jubutsu arc thanks for that
Glad he can still have fun with it like this...Niu really met one treasure of a man...
I didn't expect to see Astel and Niu back together I am soooooo happyð
the more i know astel i feel like he is someone who can read other easily kalau bahasa indonesianya mah peka bngt ni orng dan bisa baca situasi
Yup itâs been talked about before, heâs very observant of people and good at guessing their thoughts and behavior.
@@Chaos2Frozen dude probably will have a good career if he work in human resources fr
Lmao thanks for translating the master of bait segment
thanks for the clip, this trio has great energy
Kicha english translated clip. Arigato~
this trio is so unhinged www
Welcome back and thank you for the clip as always~
master of baits
that's just next level translation
thx for the clip
Oh hey! Glad to see you back!
Thanks as always!
Welcome back! and congrats on getting monetization again!
Glad to see an AsNiu clip again. Wish they did more interactions and not once in a while situations.
glad to see astel and niu are back together hahaha
I like PotatoðĨ°
Poor Niu! If only she wasn't so cute when jealous or being teased ðAlthough the girls are totally right here
Also, "potato" is just what they call chips in JP. They aren't, like, biting into a potato like an apple ð
It as if i was summoned to this video...
I'm 100% agree with Astel. Imagining your GF while baiting is basically a turn off switch ð. unless you actually doing it with her, like I might not able to talk properly when meet this girl next time lol. It's not about moral or anything it's just easier to use another figure for baiting cause you just don't give an F about them
Yeah, that's the whole point of Porn, which is rather sad and quite frankly a net negative for us humans imo. Its the same reason why one of the LoL player could no longer " bait " towards Eva Elfie because he befriended her irl. For me personally I dont think masturbaiting towards your GF/wife is a weird thing when you have their sexy pics, and I'd personally watch Porn with them altogether if they wanted to .
The Madonna Whore Complex
wait genuine question why is imagining your partner like that a turn off? i thought you were supposed to be turned on by ur partner ð
@@yumi8704 just search the Madonna Whore Complex bro like 99% of men have this
@@yumi8704 like I said unless I actually doing with her, just beating my meat alone for relieving while imagining the GF make me feel disgusted of myselfð.
Other people probably have different perspectives which is fine. The thing is when you watching corn while baiting you don't care for the person in the video they just like virtually there, but your GF is someone you already bonded and love and you care for this person, you not objectifying her. Again I don't mind people who think the otherwise maybe their GF is just that good looking ð
Tell Niu's Ex to close his damn pants
Oh AsNiu âĪ so much memories ðĒ
1:19 makeine mentioned ðĢ ðĢ
astel taking 2ndhand shot there lmao
06:02 That's a clever translation.
i lost it at master of baits
Moreeeee
He always stuck inbetween girls talk like he got paid to listen but actually not ðððð
Niu being called a "losing heroine" is so true. Her interaction with Astel is already a glimpse to her personality, the story just further proves it ð
Love the "Master of bait" translation. Set up using the same word éĪ/bait but end with "master of bait" pun because ããã doesn't have a translation that is both equivalent in context and definition. *chef's kiss*
Who would even think about cheating on someone as cute as Niu? That guy just wasn't ready to be in a committed relationship I guess. Hearing Niu talk about why getting other women's contacts while dating already could be seen as cheating was eye opening to me, as I hadn't previously understood why. It does make sense, why are you still searching when you already have someone? I'm glad Astel also pointed out how monkey brain guys can get, especially when they're together. But yeah, even the monkey brain excuse wouldn't be able to excuse Niu's ex, from in her dream of course
Welcome back to your own channel, and thanks for the clip with Astel and Niu! It's nice to see they're still friendly enough to banter as usual, even after a year!
Yeah from ntr to hand training with some lessons, what a great stream really ð
Amazing translation, sasuga. ð
Kamito got ntrâd in real life, and I remember he used to collab with niu kinda often
I hope it's just for entertainment but if it's real, man Niu is really gullible and I kinda worried for her. Like based on the past clips, she always dropped a bomb out of nowhere unknowingly.
Niu didn't have to expose herself like that. Even the others got a little worried for her.
That conversation almost turns awkward
Potato word sounds so good potato ð
dang my english level, i wish someone would clip this and translate it in mandarin, this is to much fun to watch, Niu got jebaited hard and deep. ðĪĢ
0:06 the tongue out caught me off guard
poor niu always getting bullied ððð
really took me a while to understand what bait is until i hear itð
That a massive red flag lol
The first incident was questionable but not necessarily bad I suppose so? Depends.
The second one though I'd say was definitely a red flag and not just eh. Out of all of the sources for materials, the guy went to various dating sites for it? I highly doubt that honestly. Chances as he was cheating already or trying to pick up some other girls or so.
And that's just the second one...Don't really know the full story but sheesh. In any case, just got here randomly but do hope the lass be doing well and knows better now ey. Don't know her that well but wishing em well.
Best wishes to the rest of em as well.
i feel like a lot of antis ruined the asniu collabs. it could have rivaled the roberu nightmea duo.
Problem is it wasn't only antis, it was also their fans
â@@6Hikari6Fans who have a problem with it are parasocial antis tbh. They aren't real fans.
@@wolvress8064 you got it wrong, they weren't against it, they were too much, too serious with it, bothering even other vtubers
thats just most people ship tbh, theres only few people(u can count them with ur finger) that are shipped together and still do collab often
most of them that have annoying antis/fans collab once a couple month or years lmao
I see youâre back in your channel, is your monetization fixed?
Amazing clip and TL btw!
More niu clips plsð
Women in Japan are way too forgiving when it comes to their boyfriends cheating, I've seen it multiple times.
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I'll be honest, Asniu alone just doesn't work for me but exception for this kind of convo and their banter, which is why astel first interaction with niu was always been one of my favourite vtuber first interaction and memorable moments because at that time there's vtuber gorrila that join their banter.
I really don't remember, was it during aqf scrim or the vsaikou season 5 official scrim was their first interaction? The only thing I remember is vtuber gorrila was streaming at that time while astel just hopping around queuing if there's any empty slot for training.
He was definitely cheating
6:02 Okazu? Master of baits? I'm still pondering which one this one refers to, for hooking up or for 'stroking' your neo armstrong cyclone jet armstrong cannon with.
nevermind, lmao
I didn't know Japanese used bait from English to Japanese.
I get about the p**n though, but using dating apps is kinda questionable. Idk, just doesnt sit right with me bcs that means you are in contact to the actual person right?? The exception is they just dont meet face to face, but still you chatting and can actually meet them.
I mean its easy to access p**n/sexy/hot pic. Now even easier. Theres lot of sexy pic in social media. Why you gotta make an effort asking from dating apps?
Honestly, master baiting to another girls DM's wouldn't be acceptable, for me at least, personal connection or not
But some girls are ok with so he should've at least asked Niu beforehand if she'd tolerate it
From dream to telling it for real quick. Poor Niu
Dating/Marriage culture in Japanese is weird. If you visit host club/red light district doesn't consider cheating. Because âYour heart still with herâ is the most bullcrap I've ever heard.
âSo basically I didn't cheat on you if my heart is still for youâ. You be surprised hearing this from random people in Japanese dating scene.
guh
need more niu clips
is there a dedicated clippers for her?
Not gonna lie, i would say the fans of both As and Niu will be as fine if these 2 get together like OreApp/RamuGiru/HenLisa
Lul
astel is my oshi but that was lowkey fucked up of him to say. like imo if you're already dating someone being active on a dating app at all is wrong.
if you live in japan or friend from jp, i think you will understand about culture of love in Japan.