The mythology always reflect the mentality and ideology of the society that the mythologies originates. Floods are regular occurrence in China, even to these days until they had to build various huge damns to control them. Even so, many Racist Sinophobic TH-camrs constantly put out video claiming those damns will collapse etc. The whole Chinese civilization depended on floods to revitalize the fertile soil for their mostly subsistence agricultural civilization to thrive. But their mentality is to control the floods for the benefit of everybody. But the western self centered ideology was to save yourself and your close ones, but leave everybody to drown. The Noah mythology obviously did not happened as if it did, the thriving Chinese civilization at that same time would have been wiped out apart from Noah's only family, according to that myth.
bla bla blaaa... give us proof, dates, references, some infos. be specific with facts... your logic or theory doesnt mean anything. there are good things and the worst evil things in the communist land. give facts pls.
Why can't Noah's myth happen alongside Da Yu's story? To Noah, the entire world probably meant the entire Sumerian land/Israel land (wherever the myth said he originated from), and to Da Yu, the entire world probably meant the central plains of ancient China. Honestly, they are so far apart geographically that they could do whatever they did respectively at the same time, and it would not have affected the other.
@@LeongGunners If it's only a localized flood, than it would be highly possible. But that is not what the gospel claimed, the gospel reflects the words of god. How could a god who created the universe from nothing not know of the Chinese civilization? If this god sent a flood that drowned all of humanity on earth, but didn't know of the Chinese civilization that was thriving at that same time, than I am at a lost for words...or it simply means there is no god and it's all a myth.
@@dchey01 Wait, what's your perspective here actually? I thought we are talking about cultural myths based on your comment, but your reply to me is about God. I guess I misinterpreted your initial comment. If we're having a religious conversation, I'm out, sorry.
I'm VERY glad that the name of Yü, The Child of Gun who tamed the flood, was pronounced correctly here. There are a couple other videos here on TH-cam telling the same story, in which the name is wrongly pronounced as *'YOU'* -- and the guy who did the video made a tasteless joke out of that by saying that 'you', the viewer, are the star and the hero in this story!
In short... Western: The flood is coming! We shall do as what the god said, build a big boat to save 1 family and some animals!! Chinese: The flood is coming? Is that a CHALLENGE?! Come and get some!!! *picking up tools and created the world's largest canal system at their time
And then because of Corruption in the Chinese Bulding Company the whole canal collapsed and the water is bringing corrupted chineses to America illegally and maybe because nothing collapses in Usa.
That’s not how the story of Noah went. It’s recorded in the Bible. Noah built the ark by direction of God and was told, more or less, to invite everyone on board. He was mocked because no one believed that a flood was actually coming. He was viewed as a crazed man, so no one got on the ark despite his invitations. He wasn’t told to just save his family, the others just didn’t have faith in his words and it led to their own demise. Do you really think anything other than a boat could have saved ALL of them from a flood that was so high they didn’t even see land for almost a year? Can’t force people onto a boat.
@@chewraccar Yap, and how many animals did he saved? How the other animals that can only been found in some regions and not even on his list survived the flood send by your GOD?? Because Chinese proved that humans can simply punches your god in the face and throw his stupid flood out of the window??🤨🤨🤨🤨🤨🤨
There also is a detailed record about how Yu connect many small rivers together and led them to be connected with Yellow and Yangzi so all the flood go eastwards to the sea. And the river system still can be recognized nowadays
@@learnchinesenow In the Qing Dynasty, there was a record of a drought. The whole village worshipped the Rain God and prayed for rain, but after a few days, the rain did not fall. The people demolished the Palace of the Rain God and punished him by hanging his statue on a fire. The Chinese philosophy is very simple, and whether you are respected or not depends on whether you are serving everyone.
We will expirance huge floods but they didn’t have out water drainage system that help as well as our dams and other modern infrastructure that helps lower the effects of floods by stop or preventing the water from going to high or hitting a bigger area
Read about the great flood that wipe out half of Western Australia thousands years ago, leaving it dry and flat in present. you can still see some of the rocks formation that looks like giant waves.
The major difference between the 2 flood myths is Yu tackled the problem heads on while Noah escaped the problem with the 'chosen' few. May be Noah's flood was bigger than Yu's but i don't know. Peace
There might be real archaeological evidences of the 2 floods mentioned in this video. Noah's flood was probably the flooding of the Black Sea about 7000 years ago. At that time Black Seas was a fresh water lake a couple of hundred feet below the sea level just like the Caspian Sea is today. There were human settlements along the shores of this lake when the Bosporus was breached because of the rise in sea level due to global warming. The Mediterranean Sea poured in like a huge waterfall and created the Black Sea we have today. People who survived this flooding passed on their memories which were subsequently picked up first by Gilgamesh's epics and then by the Bible. China's great flood(s) happened probably due to the break up of a natural dam caused by a landslide which plugged the Yellow River, thus creating a large lake. Archaeologists found evidence of this prehistoric lake which lapsed the shores where stone age settlements were found. Another hypothesis is when an even larger lake covering the entire Wei River flood plane in Shaanxi Province breached its shores at the present day Sanmenxia in the Henan Province, creating an even bigger flood. Memories of these floods passed on as folklores, mythical tales and what not.
In fact, I do not think that Yu the Great's flood control is a mythic story, for China, we still have historical traces left by Yu the Great's flood control. This proves that a leader really known as Yu the Great led the ancestors of the Chinese people at that time to control the flood by dredging waterways and digging canals. This also left a profound influence on the historical dynasties that followed. Many monarchs inherited the spirit of the Great Yu to control the flood, and many water conservancy projects were excavated in successive dynasties to benefit the people.
The "four mountains" actually represent other tribes. Often in Chinese mythological stories, a single person can be understood as representing an entire tribe. For example, the story of Nüwa patching up the sky could potentially symbolize a matriarchal tribe called Wa repairing the dams after Yu's flood control efforts.
What still can't be explained is that every civilisation has a flood myth, even those that had no way of having ben in contact with other civilisations! In most religions and cultures the creation myth of man is also much alike!
It is easily explained. Every society has experienced flooding. Societies built around water since we need it to live and survive. Flooding happens. Sometimes it is catastrophic. Early people also had beliefs in gods as a way of explaining things they didn't understand. Were does the sun go at night? Oh! There must be a sun god who carries it in his chariot across the sky. His name is Apollo. So, a catastrophic flood happens. It evolves into a story about an angry or protective god. Imagine if primitive humans experienced the flooding from hurricane Katrina. They would likely have attributed it to an angry god.
Correlation does not equal causation. Floods happened in every ancient civilization from the Nile to the Yangtze. It was a traumatic event that etched itself in the psyche of the populace.
@@domokun845 ofcourse it can equal causation as well. But i understand, worrying about afterlife or hoping for it is a burden or Joke to most if not to everyone.
This was also the same time as the 2345 bc global climate catastrophe where plant life around the world stopped growing for a couple of decades. It started in the river tarim basin where Noah's family lived. They can be archeological identified by the tarim basin mummies. They were people who came from the west, settled in the river tarim basin around 3000 bc and disappeared about a 1000 years later.
the term tianzi(天子) was only used after shang(商) the ruler of zhou was the first to use this term technically the term emperor is also used first by qin shi huang（秦始皇）,the word huang(皇) is assembled white/day(白)and ruler/king(王)meaning he is the ruler of all under the sun
Yes in the Matsya Puran. These flood stories are common in almost all the ancient cultures around the world. May be there really was an ancient flood that inundated much of the landmasses.
West: Explained myths as facts. Chinese: Mythified facts. The key word to learn here is "irrigation". It allowed the establishment of agrarian settlements and fueled the development of cultures, science and etc. Irrigation had allowed the ancient Chinese to advance far ahead of the rest of the world.
So in India and Honduras there are legends of the Monkey king or monkey god.. India has stone turtles some found recently with copper wire and crystals hidden in their stone backs..the flood stories from all over the world.. it’s amazing that People don’t step back an realize the world wide civilization that flourished in our ancient past!! People who were connected
@@firefly4326 Have to search. Because I watched that channel a few yrs ago. And I have seen this guy B4. Later I then know they are sponsored by Falungong.
I know Yu the Great actually existed in history but was Noah real? I never really paid much attention to western mythology nor their historical figures.
I would like to hear about the legend of the 中秋节 especially how was this story with 10 suns on the sky in China ? Was it the same in the rest of the world?
It's an unquestionable affirmation of the truthfullness of the Bible. One event happened and many cultures explain it, but it occurred once, and somewhere. There was a time that all people lived together, before the plural exodus of the Babel tower event.
The story proves the Chinese were not descended from Noah and the ancient Chinese calender listed its first lunar year at 2698 or 2699b.c., first day starting from the Winter Solstice which corresponded to December 22nd.2699 b.c.
i know another tale about the flood in Chinese tale, it said the fire god and water god went into a fight over who is more powerful and knocked over the buzhou Mountains (不周山)that cost the the sky to break a hole and water from sky fall down which created the flood. They are suspended and 女娲started to creat the five colors or seven color stone to fill the hole, at this time da yu and his father dig path for the water to run. 女娲have the stone ready and fill the hole in the sky no more water come down anymore, after that the water is controlled by da yu and his father
A rogue water world called Tiamat, passed by the Earth so close that its waters fell to the Earth. The electric exchange created huge twisting plasma spirals, that looked like the bodies of an enormous dragon. After 40 days the the small planet passed by, was captured and settled into the orbit of Jupiter. Today It is better known as Europa, A World of Ice and Water.
@CmdrSoCal Too bad because the Chinese lore puts this at 4,200-4,500 years ago, and as mentioned, the actual history shows the Biblical flood must have been around 2500-2200 BCE. The Bible is wrong. Unfortunately, Chinese written history is closer to reality and is actually decently well recorded (beyond the myths), even 4,000 years ago. What we consider Western society was a train wreck during Biblical times and poorly recorded.
@@CmdrSoCal Annunaki put it around 12,000 years ago....Annunakis has a history of 450,000 years.....Many Old Testament/Torah stories were copied from them, then add flavor and culture into it....
Study the word: 船. It means ark. It’s traditional mandarin. It has three parts to the word. Boat. Eight. Persons. The noah arks story had exactly eight people inside the ark.
@@learnchinesenow 船came around warring periods. It still is significant. Doesn’t matter if it came later. Where did the originator of the word get the inspiration to write it out like that?
So interesting! And astonishing is that sacred animals mostly - reptilians! Sometimes cow. How much I can remember from school ancient Egypt has now sacred reptiles as majority in religion pantheon… Crocodiles 🐊 are just one of part of gods among cats, cows, eagles, but about dragons 🐉 in ancient Egypt never heard of… So maybe Jew took dragon as the Evil from Persia? And Persia took from Chinese merchants?
there's a saying the emperor being the son of heaven meant these chosen ones were reincarnation of starseeds, thus son of heavens. starseeds would often get reincarnate into royal family.
Indeed, We sent Nuh (Noah) to his people and he said: “O my people! Worship Allah! You have no other Ilah (God) but Him. Certainly, I fear for you the torment of a Great Day!” [Al-A’raf 7: 59]
Yu (and His father) was dealing with local floods of rivers not a universal deluge Glacial melting did cause flooding. Mythology is generally an attempt at historic recording in pre writing societies.
The water is not from rain nor oceans, astrology just discover there are lots of water floating around in the universe that are many times larger then earth, and the one nearest to Earth now are 1.2 million light years away, imagine this water one day come contact with Earth then it would be like dipping a cookies into a swimming pool when this body of water pass through Earth 😎
The word ship 船 recorded the episode of great flood where God commanded Noah to build a big vessel to carry all creatures including 8 family members 5000 years ago. 8 fairies sailed the ocean 八仙过海 actually refer to them, not the modern 8!
It easy to match them, actually. The people in Middle East were extinct when the flood came, with only Noah and his family as the survivor. While at the same time, Chinese ancestors were survived thanks to Yao and Shun effort to save the people. So today, if there is some Jews or Christians who tell you that everybody are the descendant of Noah, Chinese can say NO. Because they were survived the big flood.
@@gunh4129 Tower of Babel incident occurred 100 yrs or so *after* the global flood. "Babel" means speech no one understands. Those that spoke Chinese left & built China.
wow... your mandarin is better then mine! i have shame my ancestor! hahaha.. okok i have a question... with respect... so every culture has a flood myth, does that debunked Noah's Ark?
lol chinese think it is the most silly idea of noah's ark story. They made people believe that there was only a little boat or ark in the world, while at that time china and egypt, greece etc had big ships already.. hahahahah chinese are not stupid.. hahaha
The relationship between a Chinese god and a human is a transactional one. In a drought if you never get rain then the Chinese will stop giving him tribute and even drag him out of the temple and whip him. That's fair enough!😎
The Chinese flood story mentioned in this video is originaly not a Chinese story. The flood myth that is mistaken for a Chinese myth is the same one found on "Baekdu Mountain" on the border of Korea and Manchuria. The Baekdu Mountain story features a goddess with the half of a snake, which is mistaken for a Chinese deity, and she saved humanity from a flood. Because of this, the Koreans, Manchus, and Jurchen held Baekdu Mountain sacred. On the other hand, if you look the Chinese genealogy, Chinese ancestors were archers+cannibals, so cannibalistic traits often appear in Chinese culture due to ancestral traditions. The Chinese are also descended from archers who killed snake god and bird god, so they worship the symbols of the bow with man. However, if you mention that the myths of people who were killed by the Chinese are "Chinese myths," that's an abhorrent phenomenon. The peoples whose traditions and symbols were taken from them by the Chinese will cur_se your falsehood or mistaken.😢
@@CureAwanoh argument? I like it :) Historical manipulation facilitated the Chinese migration to the Korean Peninsula. The six surnames of Gojoseon(first country according to mordern Korean, but actually Chinese) correspond to the surnames of royalty, officials, and generals of the Tang Dynasty(唐朝). According to the 'Samguk Sagi(三國史記; KOR ancient history book re-written by Chinese immigrant)', the six surnames of Gojoseon were Rhee(李氏), Choi(崔氏), Jeong(鄭氏), Son(孫氏), Bae(裵氏), and Seol(薛氏). The 'Samguk Yusa’ quotes 'Dangun Wangguam(壇君王儉)’ from the 'Book of Wei(魏書)’. However, there is no matching record in the 'Wei Book(魏書)’, the 'Wei Zhi(魏志)’, or the written 'Wei Xuan(魏略)’. The Wei Book(魏略), which someone brought to the Korean peninsula, has a record of "Dangun Wangguam", which shows that this was common knowledge on the Korean peninsula at the time. Rhee(李氏) is a surname of the Tang emperor. The earliest record of the Rhee surname is from the 22nd year of Silla King Gyeongdeok(景德王)(763). Bae(裵氏) first appeared in 608 as the surname of an envoy sent by the Sui Dynasty to Japan.3) The Tang Dynasty's general to Silla was named 薛仁貴, the first Seol(薛氏) surname to appear in Korean-Japanese records.4) Son(孫氏) is a representative Tang Dynasty surname in the 'Son Goku' novels, which imitated 'Hanuman' from Buddhism in the context of the popularity of Tang Dynasty historical novel culture.5) These surnames are identical to the Sui-Tang(隋唐) period surnames of Chinese and do not appear in Korean-Japanese records for 700 years from the record of 32 CE in the Samguk Sagi. So what do you think of the your ancester’s disgusting history?
So if it was a large flood, there would surely be many stories of it from different countries in the region. Why does Korea having a story about it mean the Chinese story is not valid? Both could exist and have truth to them at the same time, there is not conflict there.
@@learnchinesenow According to your argument, it's as if people of different ethnic consider the gods of other ethnic to be the same god. Using the West as an example, it's like saying Cherubim is the same god as the goddess Aegis, or Enki is the same god as India Shiva, which is a pretty absurd argument. As far as I know, 90% of Asians living in the West are Chinese(including those who lie themself about not being Chinese ethnic), so I understand that you n west usually contact with Chinese claims. However, it is wrong to stand by the misleaded Chinese claim. If I were to use your West-to-East understanding, it would look like this: In stupid East-to-West understanding, “Indo-Europeans are fakes who usurped the original Semitic mythology of monotheism”, “All Indo-Europeans are barbarians, and all mythology is Semitic in origin”, Therefore, this is what you said, “the all asian origin is Chinese, but the PC way to say it is that the all non-distingishable asian ethnic’s stories are surely coexist(by west)”.
@@vencera2954 Korean culture literally come from China lol, and I'm speaking this as an Asian living in Asia, just shut up, I know you have an inferiority complex because your country was a vassal of China for most of its existence, hell China even have to send troops to help you when Japan invade cause you guy suck at defending yourself lol, learn to accept reality, and talk about vassal, Korea today is technically a vassal of america, is it so hard to stand on your own ? And you now trying to steal from Chinese culture to feel better about yourself ? Just know that nothing will change the fact that Korea will never reach the same level as China, you guy were a vassal then and are still a vassal now.
The world of Genesis , from the Garden of Eden to the Flood are encrypted into Chinese characters . The character for boat for example is vessel , eight , people . There were eight people in the Ark . Pastor Kong Hee did an excellent presentation .
The reason he claimed that, is very simple. To try to convert the Chinese to christianity by assumed similarities. (christians also tried to insert the word Allah into the Malay version bible to establish perceived similarity and do the same to the Muslim Malays and Indonesians) i.e. see even your ancient written text prove the stories of the gospel, hence existence of Yahweh and addressed it as Shanti. So it shouldn't be a big deal for Chinese to accept Yahweh as your god and convert? But what he did not foresee is, if they are the same and the Chinese had realised Yahweh aka Shanti first, than why don't all the christians renounce their faith and return, adopt the Chinese faith as it's the original authentic one? But that would be the opposite to what they wanted i.e. the whole East to be subservient and in servitude to the West, in their quest for world control and domination, psychologically if not physically
I choose Kong Hee as one of the better presentations of the characters ( am not promoting a another shamed pastor ) , there are lot's of presentations The original work as I understand was done in " The Discovery of Genesis " by C. H Kang and Ethel R. Nelson . All cultures seem to have this story embedded in them . The original Chinese belief before the three treasures is very much in harmony with the Noah and the Hebraic mindset . Chi for example is often defined as the life in fresh cooked rice . Chaim is a popular Jewish toast " to life " and it's definition is usually a home cooked meal by Mama with the family around . We are all one family - Chaim ! . The Yellow Emperor said the his learning came from some one who had come from the West . The legend is it was a son of Abraham who had sent some of his children East .
To relate judaism and chineae culture ia a bit too far. Mostly the arguments lack of scientifical proof in linguistic and historical point of view. (There are a of counter arguments can be found). Frankly it's entertaining though. Like reading HC Andersen.
The mythology always reflect the mentality and ideology of the society that the mythologies originates. Floods are regular occurrence in China, even to these days until they had to build various huge damns to control them. Even so, many Racist Sinophobic TH-camrs constantly put out video claiming those damns will collapse etc. The whole Chinese civilization depended on floods to revitalize the fertile soil for their mostly subsistence agricultural civilization to thrive. But their mentality is to control the floods for the benefit of everybody. But the western self centered ideology was to save yourself and your close ones, but leave everybody to drown. The Noah mythology obviously did not happened as if it did, the thriving Chinese civilization at that same time would have been wiped out apart from Noah's only family, according to that myth.
bla bla blaaa... give us proof, dates, references, some infos. be specific with facts... your logic or theory doesnt mean anything. there are good things and the worst evil things in the communist land. give facts pls.
Why can't Noah's myth happen alongside Da Yu's story? To Noah, the entire world probably meant the entire Sumerian land/Israel land (wherever the myth said he originated from), and to Da Yu, the entire world probably meant the central plains of ancient China. Honestly, they are so far apart geographically that they could do whatever they did respectively at the same time, and it would not have affected the other.
@@LeongGunners If it's only a localized flood, than it would be highly possible. But that is not what the gospel claimed, the gospel reflects the words of god. How could a god who created the universe from nothing not know of the Chinese civilization? If this god sent a flood that drowned all of humanity on earth, but didn't know of the Chinese civilization that was thriving at that same time, than I am at a lost for words...or it simply means there is no god and it's all a myth.
Cult Marxist hive mind drone alert!
@@dchey01 Wait, what's your perspective here actually? I thought we are talking about cultural myths based on your comment, but your reply to me is about God. I guess I misinterpreted your initial comment. If we're having a religious conversation, I'm out, sorry.
Chinese doesn't bow to disaster and Uncle Sam expect them to bow to sanctions. 😂
Touché my friend! Touché
I'm VERY glad that the name of Yü, The Child of Gun who tamed the flood, was pronounced correctly here. There are a couple other videos here on TH-cam telling the same story, in which the name is wrongly pronounced as *'YOU'* -- and the guy who did the video made a tasteless joke out of that by saying that 'you', the viewer, are the star and the hero in this story!
Yes, ignorance knows no bounds on YT.
The pronunciation of the Chinese proverbs etc all done very well. Congratulations!
Can’t get enough of these stories. Thanks!
rather than stay away from the problems, chinese solved it and conquered it! 😅
In short...
Western: The flood is coming! We shall do as what the god said, build a big boat to save 1 family and some animals!!
Chinese: The flood is coming? Is that a CHALLENGE?! Come and get some!!! *picking up tools and created the world's largest canal system at their time
And then because of Corruption in the Chinese Bulding Company the whole canal collapsed and the water is bringing corrupted chineses to America illegally and maybe because nothing collapses in Usa.
亚伯: 按上帝的旨意牧羊
该隐: 学习了上帝的知识驯化了水稻
That’s not how the story of Noah went. It’s recorded in the Bible. Noah built the ark by direction of God and was told, more or less, to invite everyone on board. He was mocked because no one believed that a flood was actually coming. He was viewed as a crazed man, so no one got on the ark despite his invitations. He wasn’t told to just save his family, the others just didn’t have faith in his words and it led to their own demise.
Do you really think anything other than a boat could have saved ALL of them from a flood that was so high they didn’t even see land for almost a year? Can’t force people onto a boat.
@@chewraccar Yap, and how many animals did he saved? How the other animals that can only been found in some regions and not even on his list survived the flood send by your GOD?? Because Chinese proved that humans can simply punches your god in the face and throw his stupid flood out of the window??🤨🤨🤨🤨🤨🤨
There also is a detailed record about how Yu connect many small rivers together and led them to be connected with Yellow and Yangzi so all the flood go eastwards to the sea. And the river system still can be recognized nowadays
It is normal to rain for 40 days and 40 nights in Cumbria, England.
right that's why you have all those lakes...
Thank you!!! This was brilliant and so informative!!
Many Blessings
中国的神话表示几乎都代表了中国人不屈服于神的意志，大禹治水、夸父逐日，后羿射日，大闹天宫，愚公移山，共工撞山，哪吒闹海。。。等等，都代表了中国人民不屈服于神权、不屈服于权贵的精神。
我不同意，在歷史上中國人還是對神很尊敬，可是他們跟各種不同的神的關係比較複雜，不像西方人說的「只有一個神」
很多神是源自于祖先，祖先们带我们繁荣我们尊敬他们并立他们为神，他们是真正的帮助过我们@@learnchinesenow
@@learnchinesenow 那你举个神话的例子，中国人顺从神权的神话
@@learnchinesenow The so-called "gods" that Chinese people believe in are actually the experiences and cultural heritage left by their ancestors
@@learnchinesenow In the Qing Dynasty, there was a record of a drought. The whole village worshipped the Rain God and prayed for rain, but after a few days, the rain did not fall. The people demolished the Palace of the Rain God and punished him by hanging his statue on a fire. The Chinese philosophy is very simple, and whether you are respected or not depends on whether you are serving everyone.
It does seem strange why every nation, in prehistoric times, experienced huge floods.
Rather, floods were always some of the biggest disasters to bedevil mankind
We will expirance huge floods but they didn’t have out water drainage system that help as well as our dams and other modern infrastructure that helps lower the effects of floods by stop or preventing the water from going to high or hitting a bigger area
@@anguianoalan100 那你是不知道良渚，就在杭州，5000年前的先民已经建造了国家级的水利工程。然而良渚应该是因为海平面上涨而消亡了。
there were no drainage system back then. Period.
Because this is a natural phenomena that occurs throughout the world?
Great episode. The great flood has revealed the differences of approaches and philosophies of the east and the west.
First time chancing upon your video. Very interesting story telling of a Chinese myth which people normally ignores
I play erhu. I'm glad to hear the song Guangmingxing. I just finished playing it❤
Floods of great magnitude must have happened worldwide at that time period
Yu the great saves people's lives and Noah saves his family
Read about the great flood that wipe out half of Western Australia thousands years ago, leaving it dry and flat in present. you can still see some of the rocks formation that looks like giant waves.
Hahahaha. It's better explained by oceans being lifted out of the waters by tectonic shifts.
The major difference between the 2 flood myths is Yu tackled the problem heads on while Noah escaped the problem with the 'chosen' few. May be Noah's flood was bigger than Yu's but i don't know. Peace
There might be real archaeological evidences of the 2 floods mentioned in this video. Noah's flood was probably the flooding of the Black Sea about 7000 years ago. At that time Black Seas was a fresh water lake a couple of hundred feet below the sea level just like the Caspian Sea is today. There were human settlements along the shores of this lake when the Bosporus was breached because of the rise in sea level due to global warming. The Mediterranean Sea poured in like a huge waterfall and created the Black Sea we have today. People who survived this flooding passed on their memories which were subsequently picked up first by Gilgamesh's epics and then by the Bible. China's great flood(s) happened probably due to the break up of a natural dam caused by a landslide which plugged the Yellow River, thus creating a large lake. Archaeologists found evidence of this prehistoric lake which lapsed the shores where stone age settlements were found. Another hypothesis is when an even larger lake covering the entire Wei River flood plane in Shaanxi Province breached its shores at the present day Sanmenxia in the Henan Province, creating an even bigger flood. Memories of these floods passed on as folklores, mythical tales and what not.
In fact, I do not think that Yu the Great's flood control is a mythic story, for China, we still have historical traces left by Yu the Great's flood control. This proves that a leader really known as Yu the Great led the ancestors of the Chinese people at that time to control the flood by dredging waterways and digging canals. This also left a profound influence on the historical dynasties that followed. Many monarchs inherited the spirit of the Great Yu to control the flood, and many water conservancy projects were excavated in successive dynasties to benefit the people.
what a great and superb program.❤
The "four mountains" actually represent other tribes. Often in Chinese mythological stories, a single person can be understood as representing an entire tribe. For example, the story of Nüwa patching up the sky could potentially symbolize a matriarchal tribe called Wa repairing the dams after Yu's flood control efforts.
Your pronunciation of the Chinese tones is very accurate!
so good, the way you compare both
What still can't be explained is that every civilisation has a flood myth, even those that had no way of having ben in contact with other civilisations! In most religions and cultures the creation myth of man is also much alike!
When a devil whispers disbelief. You simply shift the burden of proof on him instead of stressing yourself...
It is easily explained. Every society has experienced flooding. Societies built around water since we need it to live and survive. Flooding happens. Sometimes it is catastrophic. Early people also had beliefs in gods as a way of explaining things they didn't understand. Were does the sun go at night? Oh! There must be a sun god who carries it in his chariot across the sky. His name is Apollo. So, a catastrophic flood happens. It evolves into a story about an angry or protective god. Imagine if primitive humans experienced the flooding from hurricane Katrina. They would likely have attributed it to an angry god.
After science showed that humans came from a common stock, it is entirely likely that they would have many things in common. There's no mystery.
Correlation does not equal causation. Floods happened in every ancient civilization from the Nile to the Yangtze. It was a traumatic event that etched itself in the psyche of the populace.
@@domokun845 ofcourse it can equal causation as well.
But i understand, worrying about afterlife or hoping for it is a burden or Joke to most if not to everyone.
This was also the same time as the 2345 bc global climate catastrophe where plant life around the world stopped growing for a couple of decades. It started in the river tarim basin where Noah's family lived. They can be archeological identified by the tarim basin mummies. They were people who came from the west, settled in the river tarim basin around 3000 bc and disappeared about a 1000 years later.
the term tianzi(天子) was only used after shang(商)
the ruler of zhou was the first to use this term
technically the term emperor is also used first by qin shi huang（秦始皇）,the word huang(皇) is assembled white/day(白)and ruler/king(王)meaning he is the ruler of all under the sun
The Chinese civilisation solved the flood problem with engineering. The West prayed.
We built a fucking ark and saved the animals, soo shut your mouth, xing shong.
The West prayed and built the arc and centuries later they invaded the Forbidden City and brought an end to the Chinese Dynasty.
@@BadNewsBarrettBNBchina has risen again back and now Britain France Germany Tilly are just insignificant puppets of usa😂😂
@@BadNewsBarrettBNBwest don’t brought end to Qing dynasty .Qing dynasty was puppet of west it was sun yat sen who ended chjnas feudal dynasty 😂😂😂
@@sksksks5072 Lol and how about Russia son?
The indian subcontinent also have a similar great flood story
Yes in the Matsya Puran. These flood stories are common in almost all the ancient cultures around the world. May be there really was an ancient flood that inundated much of the landmasses.
@@thecomment9489 I believe even in Africa there's this flood myth. Even all the way to Australia
There's always an insecure indian which must crash a party.. Uninvited and refuses to leave when asked to... Joker
3:17 is he talking about the Ryu Jingu Bang that the monkey king got from the dragon king of the East?
是的
West: Explained myths as facts.
Chinese: Mythified facts.
The key word to learn here is "irrigation".
It allowed the establishment of agrarian settlements and fueled the development of cultures, science and etc.
Irrigation had allowed the ancient Chinese to advance far ahead of the rest of the world.
Oh wow, which of the 4 cradles of civilisation didn't apply irrigation 🙄
@@Sean-giangIn China, the scale is unimaginable, and the methods are also unimaginable. Ha ha ha!
@@GASIA-cw8iw more like unlikely and exaggerated. Mythified facts means you made revisions on anything
你覺得古人建做金字塔誇張嗎？
那建造長城算是神話般事實
So in India and Honduras there are legends of the Monkey king or monkey god.. India has stone turtles some found recently with copper wire and crystals hidden in their stone backs..the flood stories from all over the world.. it’s amazing that People don’t step back an realize the world wide civilization that flourished in our ancient past!! People who were connected
Isn't this guy from some channel sponsor by Falungong?
Show proof and link
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Have to search. Because I watched that channel a few yrs ago. And I have seen this guy B4. Later I then know they are sponsored by Falungong.
This channel is still related to that cult.
@@firefly4326just look at the channels description. Peddling tickets to a brain washing show.
In Vietnam we have the flood myth name Sơn Tinh Thủy Tinh both gods fight each other for a female princess xD
I know Yu the Great actually existed in history but was Noah real? I never really paid much attention to western mythology nor their historical figures.
I would like to hear about the legend of the 中秋节 especially how was this story with 10 suns on the sky in China ? Was it the same in the rest of the world?
那个用弓箭射掉9个太阳下来的人抢了大禹后代的皇位，在他老年时长期离开首都打猎又被大禹的后代把政权夺取回来了
It's an unquestionable affirmation of the truthfullness of the Bible. One event happened and many cultures explain it, but it occurred once, and somewhere. There was a time that all people lived together, before the plural exodus of the Babel tower event.
I love ancient stories
almost all cultures have experienced a major flood disaster in mythology. But the Chinese conquered the flood with mortal power, not divine power
Imu Sama and Gorosei sent me here.
Wouldn’t the Noah story be from the East. Since it happened in like Turkey or something
The ark allegedly landed in modern day Turkey
The story proves the Chinese were not descended from Noah and the ancient Chinese calender listed its first lunar year at 2698 or 2699b.c., first day starting from the Winter Solstice which corresponded to December 22nd.2699 b.c.
You do realise that nobody descended from Noah, right? Noah was just a mythical character who never existed.
@@thecomment9489 You tell that to the Christians and will never have a day of peace for the of your life. 😂
@@brianliew5901 Why would anyone want to tell some delusional ppl that's they are delusional?
Yet millions of dumb Chinese converted.. N abandon this rich culture and history
中国人有可能是该隐的后代, 是农耕民族, 和赛特的畜牧民族不同, 大洪水时期对应的该隐的后代是雅八和犹八, 犹八和帝喾(高辛)应该是同一个人, 他们的共同爱好是音乐. 该隐被流放到伊甸园东边, 伊甸园可能就位于今天的四川, 东边以诺城有可能是城头山遗址, 那里发现了迄今为止最早的驯化水稻, 上帝不喜欢该隐献上的驯化水稻, 因为他改变了上帝造的稻子, 从亚当和夏娃吃了智慧树的果实对上帝造成威胁后, 上帝又一次感受到了来自人类的威胁......
am i right to conclude that widespread interbreeding prevail after the flood?
I mean I guess thats why in many countries and some US states it is legal to marry your cousin...
i know another tale about the flood in Chinese tale, it said the fire god and water god went into a fight over who is more powerful and knocked over the buzhou Mountains (不周山)that cost the the sky to break a hole and water from sky fall down which created the flood. They are suspended and 女娲started to creat the five colors or seven color stone to fill the hole, at this time da yu and his father dig path for the water to run. 女娲have the stone ready and fill the hole in the sky no more water come down anymore, after that the water is controlled by da yu and his father
这个后来被艺术处理了
A rogue water world called Tiamat, passed by the Earth so close that its waters fell to the Earth. The electric exchange created huge twisting plasma spirals, that looked like the bodies of an enormous dragon. After 40 days the the small planet passed by, was captured and settled into the orbit of Jupiter. Today It is better known as Europa, A World of Ice and Water.
1:00. About 6,000 years ago.
Currently 2023...
2500-2200 BC/BCE is only 4,200-4,500 years ago.
bible prophecy puts the flood 6000 years ago@@VariantAEC
@CmdrSoCal
Too bad because the Chinese lore puts this at 4,200-4,500 years ago, and as mentioned, the actual history shows the Biblical flood must have been around 2500-2200 BCE.
The Bible is wrong. Unfortunately, Chinese written history is closer to reality and is actually decently well recorded (beyond the myths), even 4,000 years ago. What we consider Western society was a train wreck during Biblical times and poorly recorded.
@@CmdrSoCal Annunaki put it around 12,000 years ago....Annunakis has a history of 450,000 years.....Many Old Testament/Torah stories were copied from them, then add flavor and culture into it....
大禹治水！
Study the word: 船. It means ark. It’s traditional mandarin. It has three parts to the word.
Boat. Eight. Persons. The noah arks story had exactly eight people inside the ark.
That character was created later, at the time of Noah, it would have been 舟
@@learnchinesenow 船came around warring periods. It still is significant. Doesn’t matter if it came later. Where did the originator of the word get the inspiration to write it out like that?
So interesting! And astonishing is that sacred animals mostly - reptilians! Sometimes cow. How much I can remember from school ancient Egypt has now sacred reptiles as majority in religion pantheon… Crocodiles 🐊 are just one of part of gods among cats, cows, eagles, but about dragons 🐉 in ancient Egypt never heard of… So maybe Jew took dragon as the Evil from Persia? And Persia took from Chinese merchants?
This floodstory is also in Hinduiism, ancient India.
What year was this Chinese version first recorded it sounds like its a knock off 😂
I believe all of that is true except for emperor being the son of heavens in literal sense.
there's a saying the emperor being the son of heaven meant these chosen ones were reincarnation of starseeds, thus son of heavens. starseeds would often get reincarnate into royal family.
The Yangtse IS the Yellow river !!
Cool
seriously, is a Semitic myth, or more precisely Mesopotamian (Sumerian) myth, a Western myth? isn't it considered as near "East"?
Yao & Shin followed one God, the Living Most High God in Heaven.
Indeed, We sent Nuh (Noah) to his people and he said: “O my people! Worship Allah! You have no other Ilah (God) but Him. Certainly, I fear for you the torment of a Great Day!” [Al-A’raf 7: 59]
Anything that God himself did is true and just, because mankind hearts have become evil sins enter the world.
Yes He did
Yu (and His father) was dealing with local floods of rivers not a universal deluge
Glacial melting did cause flooding. Mythology is generally an attempt at historic recording in pre writing societies.
At that time, local = the world
But ancient chinese civilisations had ancient junk ships
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The water is not from rain nor oceans, astrology just discover there are lots of water floating around in the universe that are many times larger then earth, and the one nearest to Earth now are 1.2 million light years away, imagine this water one day come contact with Earth then it would be like dipping a cookies into a swimming pool when this body of water pass through Earth 😎
Both stories are referencing the same event.
The word ship 船 recorded the episode of great flood where God commanded Noah to build a big vessel to carry all creatures including 8 family members 5000 years ago. 8 fairies sailed the ocean 八仙过海 actually refer to them, not the modern 8!
The top right character doesn't mean eight you dumbahh. It refers to vessels and their vessels.
If both are real, which one was fairytales?
It easy to match them, actually. The people in Middle East were extinct when the flood came, with only Noah and his family as the survivor. While at the same time, Chinese ancestors were survived thanks to Yao and Shun effort to save the people. So today, if there is some Jews or Christians who tell you that everybody are the descendant of Noah, Chinese can say NO. Because they were survived the big flood.
@@gunh4129 Tower of Babel incident occurred 100 yrs or so *after* the global flood. "Babel" means speech no one understands. Those that spoke Chinese left & built China.
The Chinese Flood account is definitely related to Noe's Flood because we are all descended from Noah Aveinu.
有趣，原来西方人的视角是这样的，也是长见识了。
This confirms Noah was Chinese
end of ice age the great melting。 冰河時代結束了
should be middle east. oh well to the Chinese they are the west anyway
自由 自私 自大 自我 連上帝都只選我
女娲填补
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wow... your mandarin is better then mine! i have shame my ancestor! hahaha.. okok i have a question... with respect... so every culture has a flood myth, does that debunked Noah's Ark?
lol chinese think it is the most silly idea of noah's ark story. They made people believe that there was only a little boat or ark in the world, while at that time china and egypt, greece etc had big ships already.. hahahahah chinese are not stupid.. hahaha
The relationship between a Chinese god and a human is a transactional one. In a drought if you never get rain then the Chinese will stop giving him tribute and even drag him out of the temple and whip him. That's fair enough!😎
The Chinese flood story mentioned in this video is originaly not a Chinese story.
The flood myth that is mistaken for a Chinese myth is the same one found on "Baekdu Mountain" on the border of Korea and Manchuria.
The Baekdu Mountain story features a goddess with the half of a snake, which is mistaken for a Chinese deity, and she saved humanity from a flood. Because of this, the Koreans, Manchus, and Jurchen held Baekdu Mountain sacred.
On the other hand, if you look the Chinese genealogy, Chinese ancestors were archers+cannibals, so cannibalistic traits often appear in Chinese culture due to ancestral traditions. The Chinese are also descended from archers who killed snake god and bird god, so they worship the symbols of the bow with man. However, if you mention that the myths of people who were killed by the Chinese are "Chinese myths," that's an abhorrent phenomenon. The peoples whose traditions and symbols were taken from them by the Chinese will cur_se your falsehood or mistaken.😢
韩国人又开始偷中国文化了？大禹也成韩国人了？
@@CureAwanoh argument? I like it :)
Historical manipulation facilitated the Chinese migration to the Korean Peninsula. The six surnames of Gojoseon(first country according to mordern Korean, but actually Chinese) correspond to the surnames of royalty, officials, and generals of the Tang Dynasty(唐朝).
According to the 'Samguk Sagi(三國史記; KOR ancient history book re-written by Chinese immigrant)', the six surnames of Gojoseon were Rhee(李氏), Choi(崔氏), Jeong(鄭氏), Son(孫氏), Bae(裵氏), and Seol(薛氏). The 'Samguk Yusa’ quotes 'Dangun Wangguam(壇君王儉)’ from the 'Book of Wei(魏書)’. However, there is no matching record in the 'Wei Book(魏書)’, the 'Wei Zhi(魏志)’, or the written 'Wei Xuan(魏略)’. The Wei Book(魏略), which someone brought to the Korean peninsula, has a record of "Dangun Wangguam", which shows that this was common knowledge on the Korean peninsula at the time.
Rhee(李氏) is a surname of the Tang emperor. The earliest record of the Rhee surname is from the 22nd year of Silla King Gyeongdeok(景德王)(763). Bae(裵氏) first appeared in 608 as the surname of an envoy sent by the Sui Dynasty to Japan.3) The Tang Dynasty's general to Silla was named 薛仁貴, the first Seol(薛氏) surname to appear in Korean-Japanese records.4) Son(孫氏) is a representative Tang Dynasty surname in the 'Son Goku' novels, which imitated 'Hanuman' from Buddhism in the context of the popularity of Tang Dynasty historical novel culture.5) These surnames are identical to the Sui-Tang(隋唐) period surnames of Chinese and do not appear in Korean-Japanese records for 700 years from the record of 32 CE in the Samguk Sagi.
So what do you think of the your ancester’s disgusting history?
So if it was a large flood, there would surely be many stories of it from different countries in the region. Why does Korea having a story about it mean the Chinese story is not valid? Both could exist and have truth to them at the same time, there is not conflict there.
@@learnchinesenow According to your argument, it's as if people of different ethnic consider the gods of other ethnic to be the same god.
Using the West as an example, it's like saying Cherubim is the same god as the goddess Aegis, or Enki is the same god as India Shiva, which is a pretty absurd argument.
As far as I know, 90% of Asians living in the West are Chinese(including those who lie themself about not being Chinese ethnic), so I understand that you n west usually contact with Chinese claims. However, it is wrong to stand by the misleaded Chinese claim.
If I were to use your West-to-East understanding, it would look like this:
In stupid East-to-West understanding, “Indo-Europeans are fakes who usurped the original Semitic mythology of monotheism”, “All Indo-Europeans are barbarians, and all mythology is Semitic in origin”,
Therefore, this is what you said, “the all asian origin is Chinese, but the PC way to say it is that the all non-distingishable asian ethnic’s stories are surely coexist(by west)”.
@@vencera2954 Korean culture literally come from China lol, and I'm speaking this as an Asian living in Asia, just shut up, I know you have an inferiority complex because your country was a vassal of China for most of its existence, hell China even have to send troops to help you when Japan invade cause you guy suck at defending yourself lol, learn to accept reality, and talk about vassal, Korea today is technically a vassal of america, is it so hard to stand on your own ? And you now trying to steal from Chinese culture to feel better about yourself ? Just know that nothing will change the fact that Korea will never reach the same level as China, you guy were a vassal then and are still a vassal now.
Fairy tales.
The world of Genesis , from the Garden of Eden to the Flood are encrypted into Chinese characters . The character for boat for example is vessel , eight , people . There were eight people in the Ark . Pastor Kong Hee did an excellent presentation .
The reason he claimed that, is very simple. To try to convert the Chinese to christianity by assumed similarities. (christians also tried to insert the word Allah into the Malay version bible to establish perceived similarity and do the same to the Muslim Malays and Indonesians) i.e. see even your ancient written text prove the stories of the gospel, hence existence of Yahweh and addressed it as Shanti. So it shouldn't be a big deal for Chinese to accept Yahweh as your god and convert? But what he did not foresee is, if they are the same and the Chinese had realised Yahweh aka Shanti first, than why don't all the christians renounce their faith and return, adopt the Chinese faith as it's the original authentic one? But that would be the opposite to what they wanted i.e. the whole East to be subservient and in servitude to the West, in their quest for world control and domination, psychologically if not physically
This is called as distorting the truth/facts to fit the narrative. Adam and Eve myth have nothing to do with ancient China.
he is a hoax
I choose Kong Hee as one of the better presentations of the characters ( am not promoting a another shamed pastor ) , there are lot's of presentations The original work as I understand was done in " The Discovery of Genesis " by C. H Kang and Ethel R. Nelson . All cultures seem to have this story embedded in them . The original Chinese belief before the three treasures is very much in harmony with the Noah and the Hebraic mindset .
Chi for example is often defined as the life in fresh cooked rice . Chaim is a popular Jewish toast " to life " and it's definition is usually a home cooked meal by Mama with the family around . We are all one family - Chaim ! .
The Yellow Emperor said the his learning came from some one who had come from the West . The legend is it was a son of Abraham who had sent some of his children East .
To relate judaism and chineae culture ia a bit too far. Mostly the arguments lack of scientifical proof in linguistic and historical point of view. (There are a of counter arguments can be found).
Frankly it's entertaining though. Like reading HC Andersen.
Bible Is A Mythological Book .
Yes most of it is. Most of the stories in the Bible were invented and actual life story of Jesus as monk were neglected.
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