Levant Brings the Bumps | June 18th | America's Cup
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 27 ก.ย. 2024
- Just as all the Challenger teams of the Louis Vuitton 37th America’s Cup were getting used to glorious southerly ‘Garbi’ winds, suddenly Barcelona throws in a curve-ball with a solid easterly, the famous 'Levant,' packing a very nasty short chop of 3 second period, kicking up wave heights of up to 1.6 metres as recorded by the recon teams. Chase Boats were not for the faint of heart, this was a tough day but one that the sailors revelled in.
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The 37th America's Cup will be Defended in Barcelona by four-time America's Cup winner, the Royal New Zealand Yacht Squadron represented by their team, Emirates Team New Zealand.
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Looks like Luna Rossa Prada Pirelli are getting well adjusted for difficult sea state, Look out my Kiwi Team these guys are getting to grips with this outstanding boat love it , bring it lads this is the Americas Cup.👌👌💪💪
Luna Rossa looks the best in the stability department here. The Kiwi boat, when sailing in Auckland, was perfectly stable in conditions way worse than in this video.
Great to see the boat flying. Keep going, bon vent!
Luna Rossa looking good. but are they being filmed sailing in flatter conditions than the others?
The acceleration from French impressive
LR looking good.
Yep. Looking like young Linda Evangelista. Absolute supermodel.
Luna Rossa Prada looks very fast and smooth
Luna Ross’s looked super quick
4:30 ... That view from the bow tells you all. This boat is going to be one slippy flyer.
INEOS still looks longitudinally unstable
My impression is that she is slow. All of that frontal area counting against her ITO windage, and that reduced distance between foils and rudder impairing stability in the waves? Perhaps the suggested improvement in manoeuvring due to the latter suggests they intend to sail an attacking match race.
@@PixUUK I would imagine the Mercedes engineers would have something to say about your comment...
All these comments about this or that boat looking slow or fast are seemingly very subjective. I suspect that the design of the hulls also influences how they appear in terms of speed. The sleek lines of the Italians for example, v the chunky Ineos... Even stationary in the dock they look faster /slower...
I agree.
Ineos .. nose up... nose down.. nose up nose down... LR and AM a different story they fligth like an aviation figther
Tnz land in Spain today, it's on.
L'AC75 francese dimostra di mantenere la barca sempre parallela a pelo d'acqua senza bisogno di dover abbassare la prua. Sembra quasi una caratteristica strutturale della barca più che attivazione di qualche congegno di controllo.
Mi chiedo però se questa caratteristica, vale a dire "il fatto di non sollevarsi molto dal pelo dell'acqua", sia una cosa voluta o, diversamente, una caratteristica strutturale della barca che, se così fosse, potrebbe rilevarsi un difetto in caso di onda alta.
Qualcuno sa rispondermi?
I recently looked back at some of the NZ videos of _Taihoro_ before she was shipped. I was curious about this myself. The Kiwis sail their boat very similarly to the French. Maybe it's a design feature of the boat but I've also seen them sail higher when they wanted to. This points more to a particular mode they prefer. She may just sail best that way.
It is interesting in these interviews. The sailors are obviously under orders not to reveal anything sensitive, but they invariably let things slip. Leigh here mentions he was checking the “stability” of the other yachts. I wonder why he was interested in that. The others al look quite sable to me!
Perhaps because in this venue stability is more important due to sea conditions. However, I refuse to accept that the most stable appearing team is the fastest. Sometimes _controlled_ instability is faster. As long as the yacht remains flying I don't care if it looks unstable and ignore comments about instability. To me, instability is cause for concern only if it prevents the yacht from continuously foiling. As long as the yacht is flying, appearances as to how stable it looks don't mean much. Average foiling speeds are what I care about.
@@jamesaron1967 yes I sort of get that. A bit like the F16 getting its great manoeuvrability from its inherent instability. But I bet that an inherently unstable boat is really tough for the sailors to handle and you have a yacht race to deal with against the best match racers in the world going on at the same time.
@@derekness7900 Yes, exactly! Finally, someone gets it. Everything you said is exactly what's going on. The F-16 analogy is a good one. The unstable yachts may actually be the fastest but their learning curve is also the steepest. So, those teams with unstable yachts better take every available minute and train, train, train, if they ever want to eek every ounce of performance out of them.
Inherent instability in a military airframe is implemented for higher manoeuvrability and compensated by flybywire. Not for speed (military planes generally got slower around that generational shift).
Moving constantly the control surfaces creates additional drag and also taxing on the flight controllers, trimmers and power unit. The ac75 have no automated attitude control.
Generally I do agree that INEOS seem optimised for maximum righting moment and therefore potential max speed. But there are so many other factors we do not see or can measure such as efficiency of the hydraulic systems or how slippery they are during touch and go.
Let's see in a couple of months which design philosophy proves winning. As a Luna Rossa fan I get a bit of confidence by seeing the similarities between theirs and the kiwi's design.
@@Sean40K My point was that inherent instability may provide increased performance, not less drag. Many performance factors of the AC75 could lead to victory not only reduced drag. Fighter jets with inherent instability have superior performance through superior maneuverability. The analogy although applicable wasn't intended to be exact. The INEOS design appears to be less stable than the others. Whether it is or not we don't actually know, but the comments flood every video wherein INEOS is featured claiming perceived instability is tantamount to less performance in contradiction to recon reports. Frankly, I think it's excessive and getting old without corroborative data.
Ineos Grenadier may not have Ben Ainslie but they are doing OK. OK.
Ineos is certainly winning the race for the ugliest boat
Little more forward on the mast rake 😊 just a degree oar two°
A`A Nice Mirror ❤
Which team?
Difficult conditions, some boats it seems very stable, other a 'bit less maybe.
Said that, it's too funny reading some comments, people who judges as if they are super experts, sorry to disappoint you but you are not sailors, and if you are, not good enough to be on board these boats (so relax and watching the videos).
You shouldn't be Ronaldo to be commenting a football match. Where's the fun then?
People are judging performance based solely on a few minutes' worth of video clips without knowing any data. If someone is stable they must be faster, the reverse and therefore slower, etc. It's pure perception. Even sailors can make errors of perception with these yachts. They're nothing that anyone who has sailed ever experienced before. Heck, the AC75 is very different from the AC40 as one interviewee commented, let alone traditional sailing! Nothing is like an AC75 that anyone except a sailor on board one of these yachts has ever experienced. The best information we can have will potentially be revealed from the recon, yet even the recon that was leaked out several weeks back about INEOS being the fastest and LR being the slowest was almost universally ignored. People believe whatever they want to believe. Only racing will dispel all the misconceptions that currently abound.
@@gobbo71 The funny thing is that these boats are basically prototypes, on the level of F1 if not more, it's very technical topics, and there are people (under every videos) who just by watching claim to be able to say what the best boat is.
Even on the teams they don't fully know the potential of their rivals, and there are some people who think, just by watching, to know what the best boat is? Yes, it makes me laugh, to you maybe not ok, it's not a problem.
That's all, I will not add much more, my bad English and available time doesn't allow me to "engage" debates (not to mention that, when one has said his opinions, the rest is superfluous).
Have a good day.
@@jamesaron1967 I think you’ve just about summed it up there😊
If I say that Ineos seems to pitch too much they accuse me of being anti-British then I will tell you that Ineos is a cut above the others and its up and down action is only to deceive its opponents... Award the cup already, racing is useless. 🤣
Really enjoying this early coverage. Particularly enjoying ‘meeting’ the athletes and support people.
And watching the sailing is fun.
not sure about that skeg the Brits are running. Especially in these conditions
It’s interesting isn’t it. There’s. 2 boats that the Team NZ designers aren’t very impressed with and they won’t name them. I often wonder if it’s Team Ineos, but I don’t know.
I think that Britannia seems less stable than the others and seems to plough into the waves more frequently. The relatively high and full bow should prevent nose diving, but seems to slow the boat when it hits a wave.
@@malin5468 I’m no expert, but yes, I notice that on a continual basis when I watch all the vids. For maximum VMG and general speed I would have thought it’s a downside to be pitching. Team NZ are also confident of their speed compared to all the challengers. The Italian boat looks quite impressive to me.
Ineos just never looks stable. Luna Rossa on the other hand seems to fly at a constant height even in those bumpier conditions. Patriot too but somehow I think the Italian boat has the edge.
@@johnmartin7158 ....... jmo i would lean toward Ineos and Alinghi with these 2 teams having partnered with complementary sports engineering functions such as Mercedes F1 Applied Science and Formula 1 Red Bull Advanced Technologies, respectively......but yes could be any of the Challengers.
Impressive video footage on board the minimalist French deck, and very stable in those conditions
ETNZ2
As we suspected in his comments " team NZ have provided no logistics with the design " the French team will have to develop their own, just like all the other challengers.
Luna Rossa looks to be poetry in motion watching it, compared to the others. Too early to compare each boat directly without any actual racing.
Kiwis are on there way, THEY WILL SHOW YOU HOW ITS DONE
Carefull the americans look really fast and stable this year....but I think you will win at the end.
its not the kiwis its the CHAMPIONS! ETNZ