NO WORDS ARE THERE FOR THIS MUSIC ! THEN THE FILM COMES TO LIFE AND JUST TAKES YOU ON A JOURNEY !!!!! WHAT WAS SO AMAZING WAS THE FACT THE STORY IS TOLD IN PAST TENSE AND YOU FORGET THAT !!!!1 THEN WHEN IT COMES BACK INTO THE PRESENT YOU RELIZE IT ESPECIALLY WHEN I WAS 12 AND ITS INFLUENCE BROUGHT ME TO THE PRIESTHOOD OF WHICH I WAS ALREADY A ALTER BOY AT THE TIME
Beautifully done. Mr. Moross's score for this film was gorgeous....utterly beautiful, and full of power. I love it. He's my all-time favorite film composer. He always will be. Many thanks for remembering his centennial. He was the best!
I thought of the theme song to this morning, and had to listen to it. So beautiful. Saw the movie as a child, and several times since. I am 61 now, and this movie is still one of my favorites.
Moross also composed the soundtrack to the Charlton Heston movie, The War Lord. You definitely can hear similarities in both these film movie film scores
This movie shows, as the navel does, the many facets of the Catholic Church; there the greedy priest always carrying a bag full of money, the saintly but highly inept village priest, the black one willing to die for the good of his Parrish and the booming Cardinal, quick to anger but with a keen mind and a good heart. I saw this movie when I was 14 (72 now) and it impressed me greatly. Beautiful is all I can say.
I'm slowly seeing everything you've uploaded to "You tube" ... I was on vacation in Europe and even return to Spain .. only spent two days here ... and then I went back to take a trip to the north of my country ... When I returned I found .... 602 videos ... of extraordinary friends on "You Tube" and now I'm watching them all ... This video is a gem .... ! But I know that all your videos are gems of music and performing .... XXXXXXxxxxxx!!
Just when i thought yer channel could not get any cooler, you have to upload this cracking piece of music.Legendary status now achieved Sir Valdez.Superb stuff.
Saw this as a kid but of course didn't remember this awesome music. It's really really majestic. I get inspiration for some of the things I post from your videos so I'm glad you let us hear this. Thank you.
Beautiful lyrics were put to the main theme and Frank Sinatra sang a very moving version. If you don't believe it you owe it to yourself to listen to me. It's really a prayer put to music. The title is "Stay with Me" (not to be confused with another nice song "Stand by Me).
Big fan of Jerome Moross. Get a lot of criticism for being to "samey" but he gift for melody that few film composers posses. The Cardinal is a majestic score which I count as one of my favourite.
you all should realize it was based on the Bestselling novel- The Cardinal by Henry Morton Robinson and while a work of fiction. the author knew the world he was writing about and the real leaders of the Church in the beginning and middle of the twentieth century. Preminger was Jewish and agnostic so he just took the material as written without bias. Bobby Morse is in it btw . You might know him from Mad Men.
If you're never see this massive, episodic and at moments very moving and uplifting film, take an afternoon off sometime, and do something nice for yourself. Particularly impressive are John Huston, Burgess Meredith, and one my old favorites, the underrated Rafe Vallone.
I loved this movie. Have seen it several times. It is a grand film which poses several moral questions and delivers what it promises... a very meaningful biography of a man who loves the Catholic church, and was born to be a priest.
Jérôme Moross a là signé l'une de ses plus belles pages. A la fois inspirée des canzones de Gabrielli dans les séquences de congrégation, on peut aussi reconnaître Aaron Copland à certains passages 'américains'. C'est puissant et très évocateur du récit de ce très bon film, hélas trop mal connu.
Jerome Moross' was so good it had a way of often being better than the films for which it was written, another example being "The Big Country." This film, "The Cardinal" gives a picture of the Church pre-Vatican II.
Can you make a short clip from the movie, The Cardinal, with the priest talking to a doctor about whether to save the life of the sister or her unborn baby? It's the part where the priest's sister is in the hospital and starting with the decision to save the life of the sister or the baby. To save the sister and kill the unborn baby would be murder. If the sister dies, it would be a natural death. It's one of my favorite scenes in the movie.
Valdez -- I love this score and appreciate your posting it. However I disagree with your assessment of the movie. The Cardinal takes its time, it's true, as do most of Preminger's films, but rather than being an "overly long laborious" effort, as you put it, it is a wonderful film which shows the progression of this man's life, his moral dilemas, and his movement within the Catholic church. I am not a Catholic, nor am I a supporter of the Catholic church, but I was moved by this film nonetheless.
Thanks Leslie, I will have to watch it again, but from what I remember it was very episodic, but I''ll give it another go. Maybe my opinion will change. I do know that it took me years to finally appreciate ''Ryan's Daughter''. So who knows? :)
Interesting that you mention Ryan's Daughter, Valdez. That was a film I didn't care for... thought it was boring when I saw it many years ago. And I feel I should see that film again.
+Leslie T Completely agree with you, loved the movie when I saw it in France thank God in English which was not so easy at the time of its release here. Schneider always a fantastic actress and Tryon amazing in this difficult part. Sometime we're not in the right receptive mood when we see a movie Valdez244 or perhaps too young to appreciate certain scripts.
Sometimes a movie will seem different years later because we have changed in some ways. People seem to have shorter attention spans today so that longer scenes in movies that have more of a psychological story that shows a character's development may seem boring to some who are more used to action movies.
The book "The Cardinal" by Henry Morton Robinson was published in 1950 and was to some extent inspired by the career of the fairly notorious Boston Archbishop William O'Connell. He started out as a rector in a seminary in Rome and gradually acquired the nickname "Gangplank Bill" due to all the trips he was always taking to Rome. He was steeped in Boston politics and was a personal friend of John "Honey Fitz" Fitzgerald, the grandfather of President John F. Kennedy. The novel Robinson wrote rather thoroughly recaps the issues that were chief in the first half of the last century: mixed marriages, out-of-wedlock pregnancies and abortion, racism, Nazism or Fascism and perhaps mandatory celibacy. Amazingly, as I see it and possibly other Catholics feel the same, the Roman Church hasn't gotten much beyond them. I have for a long time enjoyed the score to The Cardinal, in particular the way that Moross uses the various parts of the orchestral in a textured ensemble during the Main Theme to summon up the grandeur and storied antiquity of Rome, which even in 1963 was "of another day" as Tony Bennett sings. It's ironic that right about the time the film was being made, the Church's hierarchy were preparing to convene the first session of the Second Vatican Council, specifically for aggiornamento, to update the whole institution and let in some fresh air. Over the years I've wondered, "Why did Preminger want to put this story on the screen?" Who were the target audience? Whatever the case the music is first-rate and the composer gave the film a big helping hand in terms of its emotional impact.
I don't know why I wrote what a disappointment when I first wrote this. Maybe I was in a mood and it was probably shortly after I left the RCC for good. There are some truly fine moments in this film and a ton of heartbreak.
Tend to agree with Valdez. I too found the film over-long and laborious, as I did so many of Preminger's efforts (Exodus, In Harm's Way, Anatomy of a Murder, Advise and Consent etc). The Preminger of Laura seemed to get the 'Roadshow epic' bug in the late 50s and pad out what were in fact 2 hour films into 3 hours +.
NO WORDS ARE THERE FOR THIS MUSIC ! THEN THE FILM COMES TO LIFE AND JUST TAKES YOU ON A JOURNEY !!!!! WHAT WAS SO AMAZING WAS THE FACT THE STORY IS TOLD IN PAST TENSE AND YOU FORGET THAT !!!!1 THEN WHEN IT COMES BACK INTO THE PRESENT YOU RELIZE IT ESPECIALLY WHEN I WAS 12 AND ITS INFLUENCE BROUGHT ME TO THE PRIESTHOOD OF WHICH I WAS ALREADY A ALTER BOY AT THE TIME
Thank you for being a priest.
Tom Tryon a fabulous actor with loyalty and dedication.
Thank you Valdez for this classic movie.One of my favorites.
Beautifully done. Mr. Moross's score for this film was gorgeous....utterly beautiful, and full of power. I love it. He's my all-time favorite film composer. He always will be. Many thanks for remembering his centennial. He was the best!
Such a haunting theme. Saw the movie 55 years ago and am still in awe.
I thought of the theme song to this morning, and had to listen to it. So beautiful. Saw the movie as a child, and several times since. I am 61 now, and this movie is still one of my favorites.
Meant to say thought of the theme song to this movie, this morning. The Cardinal. Anyway, love the score and the movie.
Moross also composed the soundtrack to the Charlton Heston movie, The War Lord. You definitely can hear similarities in both these film movie film scores
UNFORGETTABLE
Absolutely glorious score, easily the most memorable aspect of a very uneven film.
Such a Great movie should have more exposure to people please have it done. GOD BLESS YOU
The film is a inspiration.
What a find! Thanks very much for posting this wonderful film music by Jerome Moross.....
One of my all time favorite music themes. Thank you for uploading!
This movie shows, as the navel does, the many facets of the Catholic Church; there the greedy priest always carrying a bag full of money, the saintly but highly inept village priest, the black one willing to die for the good of his Parrish and the booming Cardinal, quick to anger but with a keen mind and a good heart. I saw this movie when I was 14 (72 now) and it impressed me greatly. Beautiful is all I can say.
amazing
Very underrated movie.
I'm slowly seeing everything you've uploaded to "You tube" ... I was on vacation in Europe and even return to Spain .. only spent two days here ... and then I went back to take a trip to the north of my country ... When I returned I found .... 602 videos ... of extraordinary friends on "You Tube" and now I'm watching them all ... This video is a gem .... ! But I know that all your videos are gems of music and performing .... XXXXXXxxxxxx!!
Just when i thought yer channel could not get any cooler, you have to upload this cracking piece of music.Legendary status now achieved Sir Valdez.Superb stuff.
Saw this as a kid but of course didn't remember this awesome music. It's really really majestic. I get inspiration for some of the things I post from your videos so I'm glad you let us hear this. Thank you.
Features the glorious tune that became the song "Stay With Me".
Beautiful lyrics were put to the main theme and Frank Sinatra sang a very moving version. If you don't believe it you owe it to yourself to listen to me. It's really a prayer put to music. The title is "Stay with Me" (not to be confused with another nice song "Stand by Me).
Big fan of Jerome Moross. Get a lot of criticism for being to "samey" but he gift for melody that few film composers posses. The Cardinal is a majestic score which I count as one of my favourite.
Still, when u think of "Dream of Olwen" and "Warsaw Concerto"...….
you all should realize it was based on the Bestselling novel- The Cardinal by Henry Morton Robinson and while a work of fiction. the author knew the world he was writing about and the real leaders of the Church in the beginning and middle of the twentieth century. Preminger was Jewish and agnostic so he just took the material as written without bias. Bobby Morse is in it btw . You might know him from Mad Men.
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exelente!!!
My second Moross favourite, after 'The War Lord'.
If you're never see this massive, episodic and at moments very moving and uplifting film, take an afternoon off sometime, and do something nice for yourself. Particularly impressive are John Huston, Burgess Meredith, and one my old favorites, the underrated Rafe Vallone.
I loved this movie. Have seen it several times. It is a grand film which poses several moral questions and delivers what it promises... a very meaningful biography of a man who loves the Catholic church, and was born to be a priest.
Jérôme Moross a là signé l'une de ses plus belles pages. A la fois inspirée des canzones de Gabrielli dans les séquences de congrégation, on peut aussi reconnaître Aaron Copland à certains passages 'américains'. C'est puissant et très évocateur du récit de ce très bon film, hélas trop mal connu.
Brill score!
I have read the book The Cardinal a very long time ago. Inspiring novel. Better than the movie just like The Silver Chalice starring Paul Newman. 🙏
Jerome Moross' was so good it had a way of often being better than the films for which it was written, another example being "The Big Country." This film, "The Cardinal" gives a picture of the Church pre-Vatican II.
Can you make a short clip from the movie, The Cardinal, with the priest talking to a doctor about whether to save the life of the sister or her unborn baby? It's the part where the priest's sister is in the hospital and starting with the decision to save the life of the sister or the baby. To save the sister and kill the unborn baby would be murder. If the sister dies, it would be a natural death. It's one of my favorite scenes in the movie.
Valdez -- I love this score and appreciate your posting it. However I disagree with your assessment of the movie. The Cardinal takes its time, it's true, as do most of Preminger's films, but rather than being an "overly long laborious" effort, as you put it, it is a wonderful film which shows the progression of this man's life, his moral dilemas, and his movement within the Catholic church. I am not a Catholic, nor am I a supporter of the Catholic church, but I was moved by this film nonetheless.
Thanks Leslie, I will have to watch it again, but from what I remember it was very episodic, but I''ll give it another go. Maybe my opinion will change. I do know that it took me years to finally appreciate ''Ryan's Daughter''. So who knows? :)
Interesting that you mention Ryan's Daughter, Valdez. That was a film I didn't care for... thought it was boring when I saw it many years ago. And I feel I should see that film again.
+Leslie T Completely agree with you, loved the movie when I saw it in France thank God in English which was not so easy at the time of its release here. Schneider always a fantastic actress and Tryon amazing in this difficult part. Sometime we're not in the right receptive mood when we see a movie Valdez244 or perhaps too young to appreciate certain scripts.
Sometimes a movie will seem different years later because we have changed in some ways. People seem to have shorter attention spans today so that longer scenes in movies that have more of a psychological story that shows a character's development may seem boring to some who are more used to action movies.
The book "The Cardinal" by Henry Morton Robinson was published in 1950 and was to some extent inspired by the career of the fairly notorious Boston Archbishop William O'Connell. He started out as a rector in a seminary in Rome and gradually acquired the nickname "Gangplank Bill" due to all the trips he was always taking to Rome. He was steeped in Boston politics and was a personal friend of John "Honey Fitz" Fitzgerald, the grandfather of President John F. Kennedy.
The novel Robinson wrote rather thoroughly recaps the issues that were chief in the first half of the last century: mixed marriages, out-of-wedlock pregnancies and abortion, racism, Nazism or Fascism and perhaps mandatory celibacy. Amazingly, as I see it and possibly other Catholics feel the same, the Roman Church hasn't gotten much beyond them.
I have for a long time enjoyed the score to The Cardinal, in particular the way that Moross uses the various parts of the orchestral in a textured ensemble during the Main Theme to summon up the grandeur and storied antiquity of Rome, which even in 1963 was "of another day" as Tony Bennett sings. It's ironic that right about the time the film was being made, the Church's hierarchy were preparing to convene the first session of the Second Vatican Council, specifically for aggiornamento, to update the whole institution and let in some fresh air. Over the years I've wondered, "Why did Preminger want to put this story on the screen?" Who were the target audience? Whatever the case the music is first-rate and the composer gave the film a big helping hand in terms of its emotional impact.
I always thought Cardinal Spellman was the model for Fermoyle. O'Connell was the model for Cardinal Glennon.....
I don't know why I wrote what a disappointment when I first wrote this. Maybe I was in a mood and it was probably shortly after I left the RCC for good. There are some truly fine moments in this film and a ton of heartbreak.
Tend to agree with Valdez. I too found the film over-long and laborious, as I did so many of Preminger's efforts (Exodus, In Harm's Way, Anatomy of a Murder, Advise and Consent etc). The Preminger of Laura seemed to get the 'Roadshow epic' bug in the late 50s and pad out what were in fact 2 hour films into 3 hours +.
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