TexasTimelapse I think I have permanent grooves in my shin bones… Used to get KKT pedals circa 1979 and take a file to them to make them look like what could only be described as a sharks mouth! Ruined many a 501 Pant leg and donated a lot of blood to the earth back in those days! Back when kids were real kids and Gorrie injuries were just part of having fun.
I have a scar from a double layer of stitches I needed to sew me back together. I landed on the right pedal but missed the left. My Mom almost passed out when I showed her. Good times.
AHH Hutch. Well known for their beautiful chrome finish ,super light weight, strong frames and exotic components, and best of all USA made. In their heyday they WERE the BMX to have or lust for. Anyone in the know lusted after a Pro-Racer, Pro-Star or maybe even a Trick-Star if free-styling.
Had 2 trick stars the blue and the red damn how i wish i still had them who would know the money they are worth right now also haro sport and master and lastly gt pro performer 2 of course not in that order or at the same time lol
Im 46. I still have my Robinson 20". I built the bike up from scratch in 82. It has Hutch bear trap pedals. Those pedals are probably illegal now a days. I still ride it.
I'm 53 years old I owned a 1976 Redline MX 2 every time I see one of these videos I kick myself for trading it away bike is now worth several thousand dollars
Cool comparison, love the old Hutch my brother still has his from BITD. Interestingly from a riding perspective the modern bikes are not better, just different. The most important thing is to find is a frame size that suits you. I have just started racing again after 35 years off and tried using my modern race bike i've had for several years and it just wasn't any good for me, I switched to my old 1980's bike and right away was faster and jumping further and cleaner, this is after not riding an old school at all literally since the 80's, showing that in my case at least, the super long modern frames are just no good (at least on the old school type tracks here). Standing up pedaling the low top tubes and seat tubes on the modern bikes make no difference at all to rider area and personally I don't like the really low handle bar height. The couple of lbs weight difference is negated with running new school type rims and modern light weight tires. But I absolutely agree about the brakes, while mine stops ok with modern pads on it, the caliper flex is insane haha
Great video… I’m 54 and started racing in 1977. Im from the central valley of California and I started racing on a redline square back with all Ashtabula (can’t remember if that’s the right spelling… I’m old) parts. That Puppy weighed in at a little over 40 lbs! Had a friend that had a Yamaha Moto bike with Moto mags and it weighed over 60 pounds!!! When you were jumping spikes and land hard it felt like you were going to move the earth! My first real racing bike was a cooks brothers and it weighed in the mid-20s and all chrome Molly with an aluminum crankset out of a 10 speed. Stopped racing in 82 and have missed it ever since. Last year went out and bought a red line 24 inch cruiser and I’m slowly getting back into it. I have a friend from back in the day that I recently saw for the first time in years and he’s trying to get me to buy a downhill bike and go to the ski resorts during summer and ride. Sounds like a Tonna fun but those bikes are damn expensive! Might have to pry open my wallet and get one. Anyway glad to see your kid is racing BMX it’s an awesome sport and makes for great childhood memories.
I live in Richmond VA and John McNeill Factory Hutch racer and Justin Shepard Factory CW raced at our BMX Track.. Bmx Bike and Track ... I was in total shock the 1st time seeing their bikes and Uniforms...What a memory.....
the stem neck in the 80s sat perfectly for riding.the new bikes handle bars sit way to low.pretty much no stem.they just sit on top of the frame pretty much
Hey Clint, stay safe during Irma if it does hit, I'm in Tallahassee myself. my prayers go out to your family and others that are affected by the storm.
That is a nice hutch.. probably worth three times what the new bike is. It’s amazing what collectors pay for these now. I raced in the late 70s and early 80s I have an old redline squareback and one of the original torqer bikes with graphite tuff wheels...Love my old bikes
Thanks Clint. I haven't ridden a BMX since the early 90s so it was nice to see how they have changed in that time. Me and my friends used to do 30 mile rides regularly, so we were glad for the longer seat tubes and posts. lol
M Whitelaw ahhh..Race Inc. and FMF… Can’t tell you how many of those frames came apart at the fork tube while I was in the air! I loved how light they were but this was before they figured out you had to heat treat the whole frame after you weld it to relieve stress. Had some of my gnarliest crashes on those bikes! Now that I’m older every time the weather changes I remember these crashes fondly and with a little pain 🤣
I, too, was a Hutch Pro Racer guy. It was totally tricked. Hutch bars and neck but pedals and cranks were pricey. Redline flights and Suntour Bear Claws were on mine. Graphite Skyway mags with Comp III tires finished it up. Loved that bike. Cant believe what they go for now. Big bucks. Oh, and a Zeronine plate and Oakley B1B grips.
I still have my white z rims and my uni seat. I have no idea why I saved them. I should have kept the whole bike. Some of these old bikes are worth big money now.
@@jonienglish3231 Too bad. My parts are off a 1984 Redline. Before that I had a JMC but traded it for a neighbors motorcycle. I am 54 now and am getting the itch to get me a BMX again. The problem now is how do I explain that to my wife?
@@Dialysisforever another : SE Ripper : th-cam.com/video/ABBcDwoooNE/w-d-xo.html Toyz for BIG Boyz Mid Life Crisis , She Will Understand Riding the BMX was Simpler Times - No INTERNET !!! my Buddy Splurged on the DISC Brake upgrade from Japanese Company ? SR or Sugino I lusted for Skyway Rims and Bullseye Crank and Hubs with Shimano DX brakes with the Rubber Compound
Hutch was my second favorite. I raced a skyway, redline cranks, hutch bear traps, bullseye hubs, 1 3/8” araya rims, Comp 3 tires, UNI seat, tuff neck pro neck stem, cheesy headset (I don’t think there were Chris king headsets back then), VDC monkey bars, Oakley grips, zero9 factory plate
Haha! Kewl video man!! 1982 huh? That's exactly when I was into BMX. Right when E.T: was popular! Dang I sure wish I still had my old Redline bike :(. It got stolen long ago.
Perfect mate! Just like ur self im an old skool bmx'er and now find my son needs a bmx to get into racing and I have NO idea what to look for! Well until I found this video! Now need to find out about diff brands and bikes out there. E.g. DK vs Element vs etc etc.. Cheers.
Enjoyed your video...made me remember my Race Inc. frame, TRX Forks, Cook Brothers hubs,ACS Z-Rims, snake belly tires, Haro frt # plate, 2- Finger brake levers, Ouri grips, GT stem and H.bars . Front rim red with blue hub, rear rim blue with red hub, blue frame and seat with lots gold anodized parts. Wish I still had it. Thanks for the trip down memory lane ❤
1982 $300 - 2021 $1000+. My 82'Supergoose 24lb. 2021 20 to 22lb. American bottom vs Euro bottom, 1" cromoly fork vs 1 1/8" carbon fork. Cromoly frame 20" frame vs 21" alum or carbon frame. O ya all 50 American bike company gone(some a few.)mostly China today.
I'm another old-schooler (soon to be 49 yrs old)...had a Haro Master and a Redline Prostyler RL-20 BITD. Just recently acquired a '94 Haro Group 1 and have been tinkering with it. I appreciate how BMX has evolved and the new bikes are great...but I will choose the 80s bikes all day long.
BMX used 48 spline 3 piece cranks from the early eighties no one used square taper bottom brackets in the full size classes. Far superior to anything you could find on a MTB up until the Hollow tech cranks came out. The best part about those original profile cranks is that if you owned a set from the eighties and broke them today they would still be warrantied no questions asked. I've seen it first hand. And canti-mounts showed up on BMX bikes in the early to mid '90s. I remember the first time seeing them was on a Balance cruiser. I had, actually still have, a carbon Mongoose SL from 1996 with carbon Nuke proof hubs. In that era aluminum and magnesium forks were starting to show up then in the early 2000's carbon forks were introduced Answer Scythe and Bombshell F1.
Only 2lb difference? Then you could theoretically get an OS BMX lighter than that modern one with some modern tech... Today's BMX isn't really biking it's more like rolling down a big hill then coasting through life-threatening jumps (at least from what I've seen at the Olympic level)... I prefer the old style dirt and pedal type tracks where knobby tires were needed. I think they missed the target by making the tracks too perfect and the gate too high... they had it just right in the pre-86 BMX, then they missed the target then with the freestyle and bright colors... real motocross (dirt bikes/motorcycles on dirt) hasn't changed so much over the years and it's kept a steady popularity level, while BMX disappeared (due to change it around too much) until our generation is now pushing it on our kids... new bikes don't look anywhere near as cool as the old ones that mimicked motorcycle dirt bikes. As you can tell I'm a bit bummed at the state of BMX. I think that's what's missing... today's BMX bikes no longer try to look like a motorcycle dirt bike and that's the whole point of it... kids who wanted to ride dirt bikes in the 1970s but were too young or who's parents wouldn't let them have a motorcycle as a kid...
One good question is, will that new BMX bike survive the test of time as that Hutch has? those 80's BMX bikes were work horses.. I regret leaving my 83 GT Pro Racer when I moved, have never been able to get another one like it :(
Dude, your Hutch is a Vintage BMX bike, not a retro. A "Retro" is a new bike, made to look old, but with modern headsets, cranks and brakes. See the new offerings from hutchbmx.com/store/
There's a big difference with these two bikes This father loves his son. Good father! That Chase element is a very expensive bike. With the comparison. The Hutch I am assuming in the early 80's about a$100 to $150 bike give or take. That Chase Element is like a $1000 bike if I am not mistaken. Nice video. I do like seeing the improvement of todays bikes.
LOL when I showed my kids the bikes we rode in the 80’s, their response was “Those look stupid. Why couldn’t people tell back then that those look stupid?” FWIW I rode a General RL Osborne bike.
In all fairness, the 2 bikes are for different disciplines. The Hutch, given the time period was for both track and street; that’s all we had back then. Nowadays and in the 90’s you have bikes for street and track. Different geometry and materials.
The only thing I don't like about modern BMX race bikes is the aesthetic. The graphics and styling is more like a road bike, it's too slick and there's nothing "rad" about it. Modern bike designers pay zero hommage to BMX culture and aesthetics.
Besides all the differences between the two, one of the biggest is the materials. The Hutch is a Chromoly frame and looks like the Element is aluminum. Chromoly flexes a bit and rides way differently than the stiffer aluminum frame. Now that they make the Carbon frames, they don’t flex at all. Really different ride.
Sorry broke all my 80's bikes.. then along came my 1990 PK Ripper XL it tried to kill me many time, I'm not in a wheel chair... it was made into a a racing wheel chair
.When my kids were BMXing, all of the parents wanted me to race to? So there I was, in my late 30's, racing a vintage Dyno GT. I won a few races, but mostly was at the back making sure the race went well?
Hi Clint I just want to say that your bike is the one I have dreamed to have the best ever 1982 clutch I love to also have a 70s bmx too your sons bike certainly is not the bike I want things made in China today can’t bête steal metal your bike is better Clint that’s my opinion because I wasn’t born in 80s but I much prefer the old style bikes Clint do you have a preference Clint?
I believe those are called caliper brakes on the old BMX bikes. They never used cantilevers, those were popular on Mt. bikes years ago. They had the cable between the two arms and a hook that came from the brake lever that squeezed the arms together. Not sure how much they're used now.
Also the difference in stems was that the quail stem was 1inch and now they are 1 1/8 or 1 1/8 tapered to 1.5 head tube... .the Hutch doesn't have cantilever brakes on it either.
Those quill stems still give me the sh*ts. Had one come out on me off a drop-off at a race meeting back in the day. The angled nut was made of some nasty cast metal and it split in two, resulting in the bars coming out in my hands as I pulled up. Fun times. Cheers for the video.
I'm a 80s baby all I remember is dyno gt now my son is bmx racing hes been using a loaner & hes doing really good I'm looking at the chase bikes the 2021 hasnt came out yet hea needs a 21.5 inch
Michael Byrne - I'm in the Hutch Pro Racer club too - Clint should get some Hutch Bear Trap pedals and Redline flight cranks - Hurts me to see it looking so unloved.
I still have scars on my shins from those Hutch Bear Claw petals!
TexasTimelapse I think I have permanent grooves in my shin bones… Used to get KKT pedals circa 1979 and take a file to them to make them look like what could only be described as a sharks mouth! Ruined many a 501 Pant leg and donated a lot of blood to the earth back in those days! Back when kids were real kids and Gorrie injuries were just part of having fun.
I have a scar from a double layer of stitches I needed to sew me back together. I landed on the right pedal but missed the left. My Mom almost passed out when I showed her. Good times.
Interesting to compare. I got into BMX in 1975 just when it was all evolving. I recently bought a 24 inch red line bmx bike.
AHH Hutch. Well known for their beautiful chrome finish ,super light weight, strong frames and exotic components, and best of all USA made. In their heyday they WERE the BMX to have or lust for. Anyone in the know lusted after a Pro-Racer, Pro-Star or maybe even a Trick-Star if free-styling.
Or the Hollywood Mike Miranda baby!!!!
Or even a pro raider🤙🤙
Had 2 trick stars the blue and the red damn how i wish i still had them who would know the money they are worth right now also haro sport and master and lastly gt pro performer 2 of course not in that order or at the same time lol
Im 46. I still have my Robinson 20". I built the bike up from scratch in 82. It has Hutch bear trap pedals. Those pedals are probably illegal now a days. I still ride it.
DYNAMO ME bear trap pedal was the jam back in the days!
I’m 43 and I still have scars on my shin from bear traps!
Those peddles are not illegal now but they are worth a ton of money.
Could you do a video at the bmx track with your son riding and you
+Owen Preece sure
I am a 80s bmx guy and this video is awesome...I still like the tall seat stem..
Gotta sit down some time better like that than have your knees up around your ears
100%
80s bikes were cool
I'm 53 years old I owned a 1976 Redline MX 2 every time I see one of these videos I kick myself for trading it away bike is now worth several thousand dollars
I enjoy the random bmx content. Rock on!
Love ❤️ the look of retro bmx I personally run a bar pad and a high seat it's just so comfortable
Vote
1982 BMX
2017 BMX
Ligma Bowls 1982 4ever
The hutch all day
Old school all day.
i like both old and new school bikes
Cool comparison, love the old Hutch my brother still has his from BITD. Interestingly from a riding perspective the modern bikes are not better, just different. The most important thing is to find is a frame size that suits you. I have just started racing again after 35 years off and tried using my modern race bike i've had for several years and it just wasn't any good for me, I switched to my old 1980's bike and right away was faster and jumping further and cleaner, this is after not riding an old school at all literally since the 80's, showing that in my case at least, the super long modern frames are just no good (at least on the old school type tracks here). Standing up pedaling the low top tubes and seat tubes on the modern bikes make no difference at all to rider area and personally I don't like the really low handle bar height. The couple of lbs weight difference is negated with running new school type rims and modern light weight tires. But I absolutely agree about the brakes, while mine stops ok with modern pads on it, the caliper flex is insane haha
Great video… I’m 54 and started racing in 1977. Im from the central valley of California and I started racing on a redline square back with all Ashtabula (can’t remember if that’s the right spelling… I’m old) parts. That Puppy weighed in at a little over 40 lbs! Had a friend that had a Yamaha Moto bike with Moto mags and it weighed over 60 pounds!!! When you were jumping spikes and land hard it felt like you were going to move the earth! My first real racing bike was a cooks brothers and it weighed in the mid-20s and all chrome Molly with an aluminum crankset out of a 10 speed. Stopped racing in 82 and have missed it ever since. Last year went out and bought a red line 24 inch cruiser and I’m slowly getting back into it. I have a friend from back in the day that I recently saw for the first time in years and he’s trying to get me to buy a downhill bike and go to the ski resorts during summer and ride. Sounds like a Tonna fun but those bikes are damn expensive! Might have to pry open my wallet and get one. Anyway glad to see your kid is racing BMX it’s an awesome sport and makes for great childhood memories.
Ah....you shoulda gone 26", way more versatile if you aren't going to race.....just my opinion, tell me to take a hike, I won't mind.
I live in Richmond VA and John McNeill Factory Hutch racer and Justin Shepard Factory CW raced at our BMX Track.. Bmx Bike and Track ... I was in total shock the 1st time seeing their bikes and Uniforms...What a memory.....
the stem neck in the 80s sat perfectly for riding.the new bikes handle bars sit way to low.pretty much no stem.they just sit on top of the frame pretty much
The Hutch is worth a lot more...
Hey Clint, stay safe during Irma if it does hit, I'm in Tallahassee myself. my prayers go out to your family and others that are affected by the storm.
+Equinox thank you
I used to run chain tensioners on my panda pro-am and gt back in the early to mid 80s
Rad!
That is a nice hutch.. probably worth three times what the new bike is. It’s amazing what collectors pay for these now. I raced in the late 70s and early 80s I have an old redline squareback and one of the original torqer bikes with graphite tuff wheels...Love my old bikes
He already has carbon parts???
I am a old schoo bmx. 80s
Honestly I stumbled upon this video by accident and enjoyed it, thank you for the video.
Thanks Clint. I haven't ridden a BMX since the early 90s so it was nice to see how they have changed in that time. Me and my friends used to do 30 mile rides regularly, so we were glad for the longer seat tubes and posts. lol
I started with a Robinson , ended with a Schwin xs pro , fredzi bars , profile cranks and GT platform pedals. I loved that bike.
I’ll take the Hutch, thank you.
Hutch 22.8 lbs vs Element 20.75lbs
Hutch was a good bike back then
I used a few different frames
Race inc.
SE
But that was the late 80's
M Whitelaw ahhh..Race Inc. and FMF… Can’t tell you how many of those frames came apart at the fork tube while I was in the air! I loved how light they were but this was before they figured out you had to heat treat the whole frame after you weld it to relieve stress. Had some of my gnarliest crashes on those bikes! Now that I’m older every time the weather changes I remember these crashes fondly and with a little pain 🤣
I, too, was a Hutch Pro Racer guy. It was totally tricked. Hutch bars and neck but pedals and cranks were pricey. Redline flights and Suntour Bear Claws were on mine. Graphite Skyway mags with Comp III tires finished it up. Loved that bike. Cant believe what they go for now. Big bucks. Oh, and a Zeronine plate and Oakley B1B grips.
Old School BMX rules!
i had Yellow Z- rims
ODI mushroom Grips !!! RIBBED Extra Sensation
I still have my white z rims and my uni seat. I have no idea why I saved them. I should have kept the whole bike. Some of these old bikes are worth big money now.
@@Dialysisforever DAD got Rid of my Bike , was Clone : REDLINE with One Piece Crankset , HARD Plastic Seat
@@jonienglish3231 Too bad. My parts are off a 1984 Redline. Before that I had a JMC but traded it for a neighbors motorcycle. I am 54 now and am getting the itch to get me a BMX again. The problem now is how do I explain that to my wife?
@@Dialysisforever Gt - 2020
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@@Dialysisforever another : SE Ripper : th-cam.com/video/ABBcDwoooNE/w-d-xo.html
Toyz for BIG Boyz
Mid Life Crisis , She Will Understand
Riding the BMX was Simpler Times - No INTERNET !!!
my Buddy Splurged on the DISC Brake upgrade from Japanese Company ? SR or Sugino
I lusted for Skyway Rims and Bullseye Crank and Hubs
with Shimano DX brakes with the Rubber Compound
Hutch was my second favorite. I raced a skyway, redline cranks, hutch bear traps, bullseye hubs, 1 3/8” araya rims, Comp 3 tires, UNI seat, tuff neck pro neck stem, cheesy headset (I don’t think there were Chris king headsets back then), VDC monkey bars, Oakley grips, zero9 factory plate
That hutch is hot
Haha! Kewl video man!! 1982 huh? That's exactly when I was into BMX. Right when E.T: was popular!
Dang I sure wish I still had my old Redline bike :(. It got stolen long ago.
That's a Bullseye BB on the Hutch. I had one on my old PK (and now it's in a bin).
HATED that Bullseye BB.....so much trouble...
Perfect mate! Just like ur self im an old skool bmx'er and now find my son needs a bmx to get into racing and I have NO idea what to look for! Well until I found this video! Now need to find out about diff brands and bikes out there. E.g. DK vs Element vs etc etc..
Cheers.
Square taper BB’s stripped really easy, good riddens.
You had to keep 'em tight......once you hear one creaking as you pedal, get the socket set out and tighten that bitch with a breaker bar!
Cool vid Clint. I still have my 1980's GT that I custom built with my dad. I have a Uni seat and the Hutch Bear Trap pedals of note.
Enjoyed your video...made me remember my Race Inc. frame, TRX Forks, Cook Brothers hubs,ACS Z-Rims, snake belly tires, Haro frt # plate, 2- Finger brake levers, Ouri grips, GT stem and H.bars . Front rim red with blue hub, rear rim blue with red hub, blue frame and seat with lots gold anodized parts. Wish I still had it. Thanks for the trip down memory lane ❤
Plz do more bmx
Thanks...
Love the old school
Pk Ripper!
1982 $300 - 2021 $1000+. My 82'Supergoose 24lb. 2021 20 to 22lb. American bottom vs Euro bottom, 1" cromoly fork vs 1 1/8" carbon fork. Cromoly frame 20" frame vs 21" alum or carbon frame. O ya all 50 American bike company gone(some a few.)mostly China today.
I just bought a CHASE RSP 5.0 🤟🤟🤙🤙
I do miss my GT, DYNO and Diamondback though. Good on ya for keeping the HUTCH
I'm another old-schooler (soon to be 49 yrs old)...had a Haro Master and a Redline Prostyler RL-20 BITD. Just recently acquired a '94 Haro Group 1 and have been tinkering with it. I appreciate how BMX has evolved and the new bikes are great...but I will choose the 80s bikes all day long.
Good video. I wanted a BMX but ended up with a Grifter XL instead! Cool bike too.
🤭🙄🤣🤙🤙🤙
A real monster those grifters with the gears...weighed a ton but indestructible🤣🤣🤙
Things have definitely changed. Still fun, though.
I was hoping you'd talk about the geometry
BMX used 48 spline 3 piece cranks from the early eighties no one used square taper bottom brackets in the full size classes. Far superior to anything you could find on a MTB up until the Hollow tech cranks came out. The best part about those original profile cranks is that if you owned a set from the eighties and broke them today they would still be warrantied no questions asked. I've seen it first hand. And canti-mounts showed up on BMX bikes in the early to mid '90s. I remember the first time seeing them was on a Balance cruiser. I had, actually still have, a carbon Mongoose SL from 1996 with carbon Nuke proof hubs. In that era aluminum and magnesium forks were starting to show up then in the early 2000's carbon forks were introduced Answer Scythe and Bombshell F1.
Very Cool... I'm just getting into Vintage BMX Bikes. But now I want a New Style Bike, to add to the collection...
Only 2lb difference? Then you could theoretically get an OS BMX lighter than that modern one with some modern tech... Today's BMX isn't really biking it's more like rolling down a big hill then coasting through life-threatening jumps (at least from what I've seen at the Olympic level)... I prefer the old style dirt and pedal type tracks where knobby tires were needed. I think they missed the target by making the tracks too perfect and the gate too high... they had it just right in the pre-86 BMX, then they missed the target then with the freestyle and bright colors... real motocross (dirt bikes/motorcycles on dirt) hasn't changed so much over the years and it's kept a steady popularity level, while BMX disappeared (due to change it around too much) until our generation is now pushing it on our kids... new bikes don't look anywhere near as cool as the old ones that mimicked motorcycle dirt bikes. As you can tell I'm a bit bummed at the state of BMX. I think that's what's missing... today's BMX bikes no longer try to look like a motorcycle dirt bike and that's the whole point of it... kids who wanted to ride dirt bikes in the 1970s but were too young or who's parents wouldn't let them have a motorcycle as a kid...
One good question is, will that new BMX bike survive the test of time as that Hutch has? those 80's BMX bikes were work horses.. I regret leaving my 83 GT Pro Racer when I moved, have never been able to get another one like it :(
Dude, your Hutch is a Vintage BMX bike, not a retro. A "Retro" is a new bike, made to look old, but with modern headsets, cranks and brakes. See the new offerings from hutchbmx.com/store/
There's a big difference with these two bikes This father loves his son. Good father! That Chase element is a very expensive bike. With the comparison. The Hutch I am assuming in the early 80's about a$100 to $150 bike give or take. That Chase Element is like a $1000 bike if I am not mistaken. Nice video. I do like seeing the improvement of todays bikes.
LOL when I showed my kids the bikes we rode in the 80’s, their response was “Those look stupid. Why couldn’t people tell back then that those look stupid?”
FWIW I rode a General RL Osborne bike.
I rode Shimano Beartraps in the 80s. 40 years on, I still. Have the scars on my shins. Looking at modern cranks, more like cotterpin cranks
In all fairness, the 2 bikes are for different disciplines. The Hutch, given the time period was for both track and street; that’s all we had back then. Nowadays and in the 90’s you have bikes for street and track. Different geometry and materials.
The only thing I don't like about modern BMX race bikes is the aesthetic. The graphics and styling is more like a road bike, it's too slick and there's nothing "rad" about it. Modern bike designers pay zero hommage to BMX culture and aesthetics.
Besides all the differences between the two, one of the biggest is the materials. The Hutch is a Chromoly frame and looks like the Element is aluminum. Chromoly flexes a bit and rides way differently than the stiffer aluminum frame. Now that they make the Carbon frames, they don’t flex at all. Really different ride.
Sorry broke all my 80's bikes.. then along came my 1990 PK Ripper XL it tried to kill me many time, I'm not in a wheel chair... it was made into a a racing wheel chair
.When my kids were BMXing, all of the parents wanted me to race to? So there I was, in my late 30's, racing a vintage Dyno GT. I won a few races, but mostly was at the back making sure the race went well?
Hi Clint I just want to say that your bike is the one I have dreamed to have the best ever 1982 clutch I love to also have a 70s bmx too your sons bike certainly is not the bike I want things made in China today can’t bête steal metal your bike is better Clint that’s my opinion because I wasn’t born in 80s but I much prefer the old style bikes Clint do you have a preference Clint?
I believe those are called caliper brakes on the old BMX bikes. They never used cantilevers, those were popular on Mt. bikes years ago. They had the cable between the two arms and a hook that came from the brake lever that squeezed the arms together. Not sure how much they're used now.
Also the difference in stems was that the quail stem was 1inch and now they are 1 1/8 or 1 1/8 tapered to 1.5 head tube... .the Hutch doesn't have cantilever brakes on it either.
My brothers custom 2019 staystrong weighs 14.7 and we are about to put on carbon rims
Dang, that Chase cost a lot more too!!! I spent less on two bikes for my son (20” and 24”cruiser) but the Chase I believe is the best!!!
Newer bikes just don't have the cool factor that the old bikes do.
One of my friends had a carbon fiber Cannondale bmx bike, back in the mid 90s, I remember it costing like 1000 bucks or something
Those quill stems still give me the sh*ts. Had one come out on me off a drop-off at a race meeting back in the day. The angled nut was made of some nasty cast metal and it split in two, resulting in the bars coming out in my hands as I pulled up. Fun times. Cheers for the video.
I'm a 80s baby all I remember is dyno gt now my son is bmx racing hes been using a loaner & hes doing really good I'm looking at the chase bikes the 2021 hasnt came out yet hea needs a 21.5 inch
First😆 the hutch Bike is Made in USA
The new Bike is Asian Made.
Have a nice Time 😉😉😉
Idk about your BMX bike but the side pull brakes on my 94 gt Dyno vfr work like a dream
Always wanted a Hutch. I went with a new redline though. Can’t compare to the modern tech.
Racing in the 80s required pads yes, Freestyle didn't...
Bullseye! They're shop was in the city I grew up. Burbank, CA.
I have a team murray bike after burner I found only two more online.1980s
the Hutch is beautiful. i dont know what that other bike is, but if you say BMX I imagine a bike that looks like yours.
I have a 1978 Huffy ThunderRoad and its a bike that was built to last and its faster then i thought it could be
Great! I'm 51 and wish I still had my Robinson race bike.
No chain tensioner on old school bmx? I have some on my shogun back in the days 1985
Good comparison... I'm a BMX rider in the 80's too.
I'm trying to figure out how an aluminum race bike with carbon forks weighs the same as some chromoly street bikes
Cool he has a laid-back seat pole I had a laid-back an extended layback seat Pole shaped like a chain almost more like a hockey 🏑
In the 80s the bikes were nicer looking with more character but I the modern bikes are on another level
today all bikes are same, in the old school you know the bike trade only for the desing.
the old hutch! that makes me feel old!
Great video-Thanks for making it!
Are you nickss dad in the show no good Nick you look identical
You interested in selling that hutch?
Let me know
I used to race an ELF expert xl mini 1989
Don’t forget That hutch two and one was an awesome spacer
I think that Hutch is heavier then 22.5 lbs brah 😐
Old school bmx are more Better looking
3 lbs heavier than modern bmx i didnt expect that
Pads were required until the mid 2000’s.
I used a powerlite back in the day.
Hutch is more expensive than the chase
I have a hutch BMX bike too
I like your hutch BMX
I want that hutch haha
I had a Hutch Pro Racer. You made my day :) Great video. Interesting to see how the sport has changed.
Michael Byrne - I'm in the Hutch Pro Racer club too - Clint should get some Hutch Bear Trap pedals and Redline flight cranks - Hurts me to see it looking so unloved.
Ugly micro sprocket