I loveee how Mouthwahsing handles each of their characters. Each one has so much depth to them and makes you feel even worse for them once their demise comes along, especially knowing it could’ve all been easily prevented
Pretty sure the “cartoon horses” thing was Jimmy’s form of sexual harassment because 1. they’re an easy target considering they work for Pony Express and 2. He clearly likes “establishing dominance” and “being in control” ‘as it were, and this was his way of mocking her. Taunting her for not being able to do anything. Also, fun fact for those who may not know: The Pony Express was actually a historical express mail service that ran for 18 months back in the mid1800s that used horses to relay mail/packages between Missouri and California. Which I think is really cleverly used here for multiple reasons. Including the fact it would make sense for a company to try and use the name recognition for notoriety. Especially in a world like this which is clearly just an even more advanced capitalist hellscape.
i do think the horse thing was jimmy not taking the psych evals seriously, it's played up as a joke. and then the horses are reoccurring because it's pony express' mascot animal. he doesn't take anya seriously enough to give real answers in the evals, and it's made worse by the fact he makes a sexual joke - considering the context of what he's done to her and that the psych evals are likely 1 on 1
12:45 I wanna say, Curly is such realistic character, because if many of us were in his spot, had his history, I doubt many of us would be able to function normal or do morally right thing. I love how morally gray he is.
the way i interpreted curly is that he didn’t realize that it was actually sa until it was too late (being sleep deprived and his responses to anya seemed like he didnt fully understand what she was telling him) i know that doesn’t excuse his lack of action but it makes more sense to me that way 😅
Maybe adding on to it a bit: Maybe Curly wasnt feeling well enough to deal with Jimmy due to his mental anguish, but took on too much he could handle due to the pressure of wanting to be a model worker for his company and his crew. He was regarded as a good captain and was respected by his crew, and he was showing signs of distress as well. Relating it to my own life, when brain is not in a good headspace, brain thinks problems need to be delt with in the "easiest" and "safest" solution. He also probably didnt want to use the crypods to lock jimmy up cause it wouldve been docked from all the crews pay, as well as file a complaint on the ship. A simple talking to and sweeping things under the rug until they got back probably seemed like the easiet solution to curly at the time. Was it the best desision? No. Did he still enable Jimmy? Yep.
Jimmys attraction for horses can also be read literally I think,, In the scene where Anya brings it up, she says she’s uncomfortable doing psych evals on jimmy because of how weird he is. I’d always assumed jimmy bringing up his attraction to horses during the eval was to provoke Anya, like workplace harassment. It’s very cruel when you think about it
Anya is also very connected to horses in the subtext of the game. She’s described as having a “long face” like a horse, and her fetus is seen as being a horse as well. So being “sexually attracted to horses” is disturbing in that way too
Everyone’s been mentioning this and it’s been making me go literally insaneEee 😭 thinking about it this way just makes me resent him even more, like good god what is wrong with him? What did Anya do to you??!
I wouldn't say Curly is the reason everything happened. Jimmy is. It's like saying Curly is responsible for his friend trying to murder him. A theme in the game is that Jimmy refuses to take responsibility and his main way of doing that is villainizing and putting responsibility on Curly. Something I think most people seem to miss is that Curly and Jimmy's friendship isn't healthy. Jimmy was already Curly's abuser before the crash. Every conversation they have has emotional/verbal abuse and manipulation. Curly just isn't fully aware of his own abuse. Jimmy even makes the argument a lot of people do when they blame Curly for everything. It's not that Curly isn't responsible for his inaction he is. That still doesn't mean he's responsible for Jimmy deciding to be an abuser and would be murderer.
2:40 Daisuke dancing animation is from Joetastic_ same as the J*mmy animation lmao 13:15 YEESSS the VA did SO WELL its honestly kind of inspiring as someone who wants to become a voice actor.. though it feels weird to call that kind of voice acting inspiring-
The " sexually aroused Horses comment " is clearly an indication of Jimmy being sexual frustrated and as well as obviously making Anya uncomfortable on purpose. It is basically sexual harassment in a workplace environment, Horses are also symbolism for male virility, which adds more to Jimmy taking out his sexual frustration on Anya and forcing a unwanted pregnancy on her. Anya being seen as nothing more than a broodmare, which is a female horse used for breeding. Showing that Jimmy never saw Anya as a person to begin with.
Now, I entirely agree with the whole actually Shipping jimmy and curly thing, because who in their right mind looks at those two and thinks it's at all cute?? I just find the joke shipping, where jimmy is just absolutely delusional, turning whatever friendship he had with jimmy into this one-sided delusional twisted love, while Curly is just entirely not cool with the whole thing, interesting/funny.
That is another way to think about it! I personally can’t see it cause it comes off as too much of a Yandere and I don’t think Jimmy is like that. I think he more of has an obsession with Curly because he envy him but not because he loves him, I don’t think Jimmy loves anyone on that ship beside himself LOLLL
I think the toxic yaoi thing it’s a little funny but I DEFINETLY don’t think shipping those two unironically is okay considering that jimmy regularly beats, forces him to swallow pills (and probably does worse things..) to curly
i don’t think the sexually excited by horses comment was meant to be taken seriously, Jimmys joking. he’s trying to avoid opening up or being analysed by Anya in the evaluation by saying stupid things. it also alludes to how he doesn’t respect Anya, given that it’s a sexually explicit joke that makes her uncomfortable
It’s completely reasonable if you can’t! I understand, the game can be very distressing which is the whole reason why I haven’t tried playing it personally, only watching let’s play and skipping through the parts that make me really uncomfortable
Mouthwashing has just buried itself into my mind and refused to leave. A headcanon/interpretation I really like is that it's Jimmy that killed Diasuke, 1. Jimmy entire dream/hallucination of Swansea chasing him 2. At this point in the game Swansea shouldn't have the ax anymore, he gave it Jimmy earlier 3. Swansea is tied up when Jimmy shoots him 4. If Swansea was chasing Jimmy, how did Jimmy overpower him? Jimmy couldn't fight him, that's why he knocked him out with the drink.
thoroughly enjoyed the editing!! mouthwashing has been on my radar for a minute. I think this is my sign to actually go take a peeksy at it. thank you jam
@jampeanutvtuberen No thank you this game seems totally interesting and wasn't on my radar whatsoever, currently watching a playthrough of it and enjoying it a lot so far!!!
GAHH jam.. loves the same game as i do??? i can watch him yap about it?? MIRACLES.... love this channel ah my godd.... giggles good video... i liked...
Love this series every time, Jam!😍 Wonder what the next episode will be like though. Can't wait to see! It would be great if you could check your inbox by the way. We've sent you an email!🤗
I wouldn't say that Curly "allowed" himself to be manipulated but even then I still think he was in the wrong. It doesn't matter how long you know someone or how well you know them, if they committed a literal crime (especially something like that) you shouldn't give them the benefit of the doubt.
I loveee how Mouthwahsing handles each of their characters. Each one has so much depth to them and makes you feel even worse for them once their demise comes along, especially knowing it could’ve all been easily prevented
Pretty sure the “cartoon horses” thing was Jimmy’s form of sexual harassment because 1. they’re an easy target considering they work for Pony Express and 2. He clearly likes “establishing dominance” and “being in control” ‘as it were, and this was his way of mocking her. Taunting her for not being able to do anything.
Also, fun fact for those who may not know: The Pony Express was actually a historical express mail service that ran for 18 months back in the mid1800s that used horses to relay mail/packages between Missouri and California. Which I think is really cleverly used here for multiple reasons. Including the fact it would make sense for a company to try and use the name recognition for notoriety. Especially in a world like this which is clearly just an even more advanced capitalist hellscape.
i do think the horse thing was jimmy not taking the psych evals seriously, it's played up as a joke. and then the horses are reoccurring because it's pony express' mascot animal. he doesn't take anya seriously enough to give real answers in the evals, and it's made worse by the fact he makes a sexual joke - considering the context of what he's done to her and that the psych evals are likely 1 on 1
That makes so much sense now why he’d just outright admit to such a weird thing like “liking cartoon horses”, thank u ! 😭🩷
@@jampeanutvtuberen ofc!! i love your vids ^_^ the youtuber Risley touches on what i mentioned way better in their Anya character analysis!
12:45 I wanna say, Curly is such realistic character, because if many of us were in his spot, had his history, I doubt many of us would be able to function normal or do morally right thing.
I love how morally gray he is.
the way i interpreted curly is that he didn’t realize that it was actually sa until it was too late (being sleep deprived and his responses to anya seemed like he didnt fully understand what she was telling him) i know that doesn’t excuse his lack of action but it makes more sense to me that way 😅
Maybe adding on to it a bit: Maybe Curly wasnt feeling well enough to deal with Jimmy due to his mental anguish, but took on too much he could handle due to the pressure of wanting to be a model worker for his company and his crew. He was regarded as a good captain and was respected by his crew, and he was showing signs of distress as well. Relating it to my own life, when brain is not in a good headspace, brain thinks problems need to be delt with in the "easiest" and "safest" solution. He also probably didnt want to use the crypods to lock jimmy up cause it wouldve been docked from all the crews pay, as well as file a complaint on the ship. A simple talking to and sweeping things under the rug until they got back probably seemed like the easiet solution to curly at the time. Was it the best desision? No. Did he still enable Jimmy? Yep.
Real Anya became my comfort character
I honestly head cannon Curlyand Jimmy as Siblings or atleast close family, cus its hard to put consequences on family.
Jimmys attraction for horses can also be read literally I think,,
In the scene where Anya brings it up, she says she’s uncomfortable doing psych evals on jimmy because of how weird he is. I’d always assumed jimmy bringing up his attraction to horses during the eval was to provoke Anya, like workplace harassment. It’s very cruel when you think about it
Anya is also very connected to horses in the subtext of the game. She’s described as having a “long face” like a horse, and her fetus is seen as being a horse as well. So being “sexually attracted to horses” is disturbing in that way too
Everyone’s been mentioning this and it’s been making me go literally insaneEee 😭 thinking about it this way just makes me resent him even more, like good god what is wrong with him? What did Anya do to you??!
I wouldn't say Curly is the reason everything happened. Jimmy is. It's like saying Curly is responsible for his friend trying to murder him.
A theme in the game is that Jimmy refuses to take responsibility and his main way of doing that is villainizing and putting responsibility on Curly. Something I think most people seem to miss is that Curly and Jimmy's friendship isn't healthy. Jimmy was already Curly's abuser before the crash. Every conversation they have has emotional/verbal abuse and manipulation. Curly just isn't fully aware of his own abuse.
Jimmy even makes the argument a lot of people do when they blame Curly for everything. It's not that Curly isn't responsible for his inaction he is. That still doesn't mean he's responsible for Jimmy deciding to be an abuser and would be murderer.
Listening to this while I draw Anya because I love her!!!!
2:40 Daisuke dancing animation is from Joetastic_ same as the J*mmy animation lmao
13:15 YEESSS the VA did SO WELL its honestly kind of inspiring as someone who wants to become a voice actor.. though it feels weird to call that kind of voice acting inspiring-
WAIT I JUST REALIZED YOU CENSORED JIMMY’S NAME LMFAO?
@@jampeanutvtuberen sorry you went through typing that monsters name...
i love daisuke he is me i am him i made a perler of him i take him everywhere i am not ok
you don't understand how hard i cried when he died i probably havent cried that much since my cat died i lost sleep because of this mf 😭
Sorry abt ur cat btw :(
The " sexually aroused Horses comment " is clearly an indication of Jimmy being sexual frustrated and as well as obviously making Anya uncomfortable on purpose. It is basically sexual harassment in a workplace environment, Horses are also symbolism for male virility, which adds more to Jimmy taking out his sexual frustration on Anya and forcing a unwanted pregnancy on her. Anya being seen as nothing more than a broodmare, which is a female horse used for breeding. Showing that Jimmy never saw Anya as a person to begin with.
Now, I entirely agree with the whole actually Shipping jimmy and curly thing, because who in their right mind looks at those two and thinks it's at all cute??
I just find the joke shipping, where jimmy is just absolutely delusional, turning whatever friendship he had with jimmy into this one-sided delusional twisted love, while Curly is just entirely not cool with the whole thing, interesting/funny.
That is another way to think about it! I personally can’t see it cause it comes off as too much of a Yandere and I don’t think Jimmy is like that. I think he more of has an obsession with Curly because he envy him but not because he loves him, I don’t think Jimmy loves anyone on that ship beside himself LOLLL
I think the toxic yaoi thing it’s a little funny but I DEFINETLY don’t think shipping those two unironically is okay considering that jimmy regularly beats, forces him to swallow pills (and probably does worse things..) to curly
i don’t think the sexually excited by horses comment was meant to be taken seriously, Jimmys joking. he’s trying to avoid opening up or being analysed by Anya in the evaluation by saying stupid things. it also alludes to how he doesn’t respect Anya, given that it’s a sexually explicit joke that makes her uncomfortable
i'd personally love to get into mouthwashing 'cause the style looks so cool but i kinda can't for personal reasons 😭
It’s completely reasonable if you can’t! I understand, the game can be very distressing which is the whole reason why I haven’t tried playing it personally, only watching let’s play and skipping through the parts that make me really uncomfortable
Mouthwashing has just buried itself into my mind and refused to leave.
A headcanon/interpretation I really like is that it's Jimmy that killed Diasuke,
1. Jimmy entire dream/hallucination of Swansea chasing him
2. At this point in the game Swansea shouldn't have the ax anymore, he gave it Jimmy earlier
3. Swansea is tied up when Jimmy shoots him
4. If Swansea was chasing Jimmy, how did Jimmy overpower him? Jimmy couldn't fight him, that's why he knocked him out with the drink.
if mouthwashing becomes a movie its gonna be like the fnaf movie
do what u want with that
No :(
thoroughly enjoyed the editing!! mouthwashing has been on my radar for a minute. I think this is my sign to actually go take a peeksy at it. thank you jam
Thank you so much shawn !! :D and yes please take a look at it, its really amazing
When I saw the notification I was confused as to why you were so passionate about mouthwash 😭
I STARTED CHEERING I LOVE MOUTHWASHING 😸😸😸😸😸😸😸🎉🎉🎉🎉
WE CHEERED!
CHEERS WITH YOU
You:"Yapping about mouthwashing because I love it"🤝 Me: "Hearing you yap about mouthwashing because I also love it"
Another jam banger and a spooky one at that 🕯✨️
THX CUB!!
@jampeanutvtuberen No thank you this game seems totally interesting and wasn't on my radar whatsoever, currently watching a playthrough of it and enjoying it a lot so far!!!
@@PurpleCuub baaaah i love u sm 💜💜💜 im so glad to get more ppl into the game
Valid reaction to this game
6:00 I think polle is Anya, they have the same text color, there is nurse equipment, the nighttime screen and mentioning his only “regret” being curly
i love this game and im so glad you made a video about it because i love your content!! :D
Hii and thank you! More videos coming soon!
GAHH jam.. loves the same game as i do??? i can watch him yap about it?? MIRACLES.... love this channel ah my godd.... giggles good video... i liked...
Hehehehe… thank u :3c
I saw this on the discord server and cheered so loud that the neighbors heard
Hii lexx :3c
THE FIRST SONG OMG Ik a VIVINOS fan when I see one
DONT CALL ME OUT LIKE THIS!!”
@ LMAO
THIS SO COOL GAHHH I LOVE HTE NEW EIDITING
THANK UU!
SUPER cool intro !!!!
THX !! :D
PLEASE GET INTO HAPPY BIRTHDAY BALVENIE PLLSLSL
MOUTHWASHIIING!
Ur pfp is suspect
@ (daybreak reference!)
FINALLY YESSS💖💖💖💖
HIII
Love this series every time, Jam!😍 Wonder what the next episode will be like though. Can't wait to see! It would be great if you could check your inbox by the way. We've sent you an email!🤗
lemme yap with u bro cuz same
Oooooo
can you play outlast next plspls 🙏🏻🙏🏻
NO !
bro REALLY wants outlast
@@azrathss. yes i do
HIIII
Grrrr... I was supposed to be first...
@@Twos_bfdi_waifu HELP WHAT
@@Twos_bfdi_waifu beat you to it😈😈
@@fivenightsatITI'm litterly gonna tickle you.
@fivenightsatIT hellooo!
I wouldn't say that Curly "allowed" himself to be manipulated but even then I still think he was in the wrong. It doesn't matter how long you know someone or how well you know them, if they committed a literal crime (especially something like that) you shouldn't give them the benefit of the doubt.