I worked in a computer shop back in 1999 , I really tried to push this system out the door but people weren't buying . . It's a shame people didn't give it a chance tbh .
They were kind of right, I mean, Dreamcast isn't a bad console, but in 1999 people who were invested in videogames know that in 1 year PS2 and GameCube came out, and also they know Sega and the things they did so people don't trust them. And people who weren't invested in videogames didn't know that Dreamcast was a competent console, they know ps1 and Nintendo 64 better.
I am still amazed at how good RE Code Veronica still looks on the Dreamcast. It is a work of art. The lightning looks really nice and it looks crisp. Great video.
Thanks for watching Sergio ! Yea i mean that 480p output has really aged well, looks great even without crt TV . Check out episodes 1&2 also from my channel if interested💯
It does but something like Devil May Cry completely obliterates it, i doubt that game could run at anywhere near 60 fps on Dreamcast with all the lighting & particle effects
in 1999 I was 10 years old and I remember going to a KB toys and seeing a Dreamcast with NFL 2k playing. I had a hard telling if I was watching a video game or an actual football game on TV. Granted I was used to mainly 16 bit graphics at the time, but I have never had a moment like that again with any other system.
Yea its crazy to think moments like that happened in the past. Last time i had experience similar to that was when i first saw Motorstorm game running on PS3, i could not believe how good it looked😁 Even tho graphics are amazing nowdays that never happens anymore. Thanks for watching Elliot 🙏
I'll never forget going over my new neighbors' house as a kid and discovering they had this new console called a "Dreamcast". I'd never heard of it. At the time, I'd only ever played NES, SNES, N64, and PS1. After saying that I thought N64 had the best graphics of any console, the 3 boys started chuckling to themselves in a knowing way. Then they booted it up. I was instantly mesmerized. I'd never seen graphics that advanced running so smoothly! I didn't have the language to describe why it looked so different back then, but now I know it was definitely due to the framerate and 480p. Not only were the textures and models great, the whole presentation just looked so different and new. Now I know why. Then the PS2, GameCube, and XBOX came out and I never heard about the Dreamcast again until adulthood. It was ahead of it's time, but got overtaken in popularity so quickly. I probably only saw it used in person just a few times in my life. My neighbors moved on to other consoles mere months after getting the Dreamcast. It made a lasting impression on me though. Even when games with "better graphics" came out soon after, for the most part they still had that muddy/ghosting look with an unstable or low framerate. The clarity and smoothness of the Dreamcast was simply unreal at the time.
I felt the same about the newer console I never thought they looked as crisp as the Dreamcast and then trend of games being mature and colorless really turned me off to gaming in general
That effect does not exist anymore. Yes stuff nowadays is more advanced but graphics on my Series X vs my Xbox 360 are oddly similar to the untrained eye. It's not generational leaps like back in the day. Sonic Adventure had me take a seat in awe😮, but to be honest Last time I felt blown away was when I went from Xbox original to the 360. NBA live 06 at best buy watching sweat on players had me living in the future. LoL
@@torres3800 Definitely. The jump to 360 was pretty mind-blowing to me as well. I remember thinking graphics probably couldn't get much better than CoD4 and Halo 3. It was also the first time I'd seen consoles with HD support for TVs (that input lag was serious, but I didn't care unless I was playing competitively). Still, I had no conception of how good graphics could be until the Dreamcast. Like I said, the N64 and even PS1 cutscenes blew my mind as a kid. Ever since the 360 generation, everything's been improving much slower. New games look fantastic, but they don't "wow" me anymore. I almost expect them to look amazing. I can be impressed with new games, but I'm never shocked or amazed these days. I don't know if we'll ever see that kind of jump in tech again when it comes to graphics. We may get some new things in the future as far as the way games are played or experienced, but at the moment we just have increases in lighting effects, resolution, and framerate.
Dreamcast had that PC clarity look on it's games and it looked great because of that. There are many games that had better graphical effects on the ps2 port, but the overall picture quality looked so much clearer on dc versions.
Resident evil code Veronica on the Sega Dreamcast is one of my all time favorite moment for a memory and gaming!! I was 15 years old when it came out and I’ll never forget how blown away I was by seeing it for the first time boot it up on my new Sega Dreamcast that I got for my birthday!!! The game was so brutally hard, for a young 15-year-old that had recently beat resident evil two and three, but neither one of those was his hardest code Veronica and I like that about the game because one it made it last and two you felt the grand sense of reward when you finally completed it-
Thanks for watching! Yea code veronica is pretty tough game haha😀 still my favorites are original 1-3 👍 remake 2 also was fantastic despite not having as good B scenarios as original
Resident Evil Code Veronica was one of my favorite games on my Dreamcast. Get the Dreamcast in 1999 and it was a whole other level than Playstation 1 and N64. My favorite gaming console in that generation with so much potential.
@@KimTe63 started to play Dreamcast again this year. I prefer to play modern games, but I still love the Dreamcast, it was my favorite console and had awesome games. Many of them didn't age too bad and still hold up.
@@KimTe63 That is not fair, Dreamcast was clearly superior to these consoles, it would be like if PS3 came out in 2003, obviously would be better than every console, that is why is unfair to compare with the previous generation.
@@KimTe63 You are a Dreamcast Fanboy. You know that at that time Playstation 2 received Ports that did not take advantage of the potential of the console.
@@joel8558 Yes? And I mention that in episode 1 . Believe me I dont have a horse in this race . Im just interested to see how games that released for both looked compared to each other and thats excalty what this series is
@@KimTe63 Fanboy Dreamcast. PS2 God of war, Shadow of the Colossus, Matrix, Silent Hill 3, Black, Tekken 5, Resident Evil 4, Resident Evil Outbreak>>>all games Dreamcast.
Holy shit you are fucking awesome for these videos. As a Sega fanboy for over 20 years (I own 3 Dreamcasts along with multiple MegaDrives, Saturns, 32Xs, Mega CDs, etc.) I have been wanting these for years (especially since I always heard the PS2 version of CODE: Veronica had poor audio quality compared to the Dreamcast and GameCube versions). You only have 800 subscribers?! Fuck that. You deserve over 10,000 already. Keep them coming my man!!!
Thanks so much Cloud121🙂! Well its pretty hard to get discovered in TH-cam but we are growing because of people like you who find stuff like this interesting 🙏 what are some of your favorite Sega games ? Im more of a just Dreamcast fan but did have megadrive Back in the day too
If I had to really narrow it down, Virtua Fighter 2 and the original Phantasy Star are my two absolute favorite Sega games. But really, I love everything except Sonic (I enjoy Sonic, but not fanatical about it like the other properties). Golden Axe, Streets of Rage, Space Harrier, Outrun, Afterburner, Virtua Racing, Sega Rally, Phantasy Star, Shining, Hang On, NiGHTS, Ecco, Space Channel 5, Crazy Taxi, Propeller Arena. I just love Sega, and miss them dearly.
@@Cloud121D Good games right there. you know i also never been big fan of sonic except as a kid i really liked sonic 2, other than that have not really played those but i just recently ordered Sonic Frontiers. Seems like its going bit more to direction i like so decided to support that game. I had to sell my Saturn collection about year ago becuase needed money for my family , stings a bit still but my favorites was also VF2 and Sega Rally. Pretty much going to focus on Dreamcast only , about to order few games for upcoming episodes 👍
One things I noticed in this video is the the DC is displaying square pixels. What that means is that the image is not distorted. The PS2 image is slightly lower resolution on the horizontal axis, which you can tell simply by looking at the shapes of things, especially faces, which you are more used to assessing if they look too wide.
I loved and bought both of these amazing machines at launch. Wait a minute, you missed something...well something that I think is huge. The PS2 version of Soldier of Fortune has V-Sync tearing. You can really see it starting at time stamp 9:15. It also has some very strange distortion (breaks up or pixelates) that almost looks like an over exaggerated heat wave during the same scene. I would say play that back in slow motion and check it out. Great video!
Yea i missed that🧐 you know its sometimes pretty hard to spot everything because i pretty much look at differences inside editing software ,quality of preview definetly is not as good as final product😁 . Anyways thanks alot for watching!
Yea that has been said, i even have that version but forgot to mention it lol😀 well anyways its only in japanese so most people would not likely want to play that version
If the dream cast uses the sd card mod in the place of the cd will it still load? Or will will it skip loading in games? Or portions in games that require it to load often?
I bought Dreamcast on launch day 9/9/99 it's literally the only console I bought on the day of launch. I took that little console to all my friends and family's house and every single person couldn't believe how incredible it was. I loved this console and I did my part trying to impress upon everyone how great it was. PS2 having DVD Playback really is what killed it.
Code Veronica was developed for the Dreamcast. Wasn't it originally meant as an exclusive but ended up on the other consoles? It was developed around both the Dreamcast hardware and controller. It should be the best way to play the game.
Yea , i think biggest reason it got ported to Playstation 2 and well GameCube couple years later also was lower sales than expected. My favorite is DC version but i guess you could argue PS2 and GC versions are better with added content. It is also nowdays available for 360 (also plays on Series consoles) and PS4 i think has version also
What a lot of people forget: a lot of the flaws back then were masked by the CRT. This is especially visible in pixel art, you cannot compare how it looked back then and how the raw digital signal looks.
Great video. The PS2 is such an awesome system but I'll always have a soft spot for the Dreamcast. The differences in SOF is interesting. There are fewer details and assets in some scenes on the DC, likely due to it have less system memory, but the textures look better and that's probably from it having twice as much texture memory. I'm also not sure the ghosting in RECV is from the interlaced mode, you can still see it in the 480p mode in your video. Many studios tried to use a blur effect on PS2 to cover jaggies since it didn't have native AA support, so I'm wondering if that's what we're seeing here. Looking forward to your other videos!
Thanks so much for watching! Glad you liked it. Yeah you may be right about ghosting thing.. i thought at the time it was 480i reason . Im slowly getting back to doing these now that i soon have more freetime👍 hope to see you around !
Crazy Taxi has PSN port and maybe XBLA, iunno I played it on PS3... is that the DC version? I wonder to side by side arcade, DC, PS2 and PS3. Soldier of Fortune is a PC game. Is it possible to put side by side of PC, DC and PS2 versions? Then the same for first Half-Life, I know ports had unique assets.
Probably PS3 version is DC version, i dont know never played it. When it comes to having pc versions aswell is ofcourse good idea and something i definetly was thinking but for now i get zero compensation for doing these and already spend no kidding tens of hours recording , editing etc per video so i just have to cut some ideas 🧐 anyways about half Life im actually thinking about doing "special" episode next which would only cover that one game and in that im looking into having pc footage too. Ofcourse half Life was never officially released for DC so it could be nice extra episode to do
Dreamcast does have a dedicated reload button for soldier of fortune. I just finished playing trhough it with a game pad. One of the buttons essentially acts as a shift button. I think it was L trigger. So it doubles up the amount of buttons. For example a and then L held down and press a
About Crazy taxi: Sega always had an issue with transparency and fog. Back at Sega Saturn, it's pretty noticeable in Castlevania Sotn, (another mutual game between Sony and Sega) the transparency being resumed to yes and no pixels with veeeeery low resolution. Curiously, in the same game, we can see ghosts with real transparency, but not much as 85 percent opacity. I think this could be some of patent struggling between companies. Just like Samsung is prohibited by LG of making OLED tvs, and, works in the gray lines, making "almost" OLED, they named "QLED"! Hahaha
About Code Veronica: In the newer ps2 version (and probably the GameCube too) they changed Steve's hairstyle to fit like a precocious Easter egg to what resident Evil 4 would be. Remembering Capcom team chosen the visuals of John Connor to RE4 Leon's.
I agree with you on the controls of Soldier of Fortune. The controls on UT and Quake 3 were great on the dreamcast, but Soldier of Fortune was impossible for me to play on the dreamcast. Thankfully the game supported Keyboard and mouse, so i was able to play it like a pc version.
Finally got around to watching this third episode! It was interesting to see GSM mode between CT and RE CV, but honestly I'm not interested in that comparison going forward. I agree it made RE CV slightly better, and I think it made CT slightly worse
Thanks alot for watching! Yea i agree it did not really improve image in Crazy taxi . i guess i try to inlcude it atleast in a short way like i did here so those who want to see it can have it
DC, the only console I ever bought day one. Had all 3 of these games on DC so I never bought the PS2 versions. For Crazy Taxi, being that the arcade Naomi board and DC have a similar architecture, it would make sense that the DC gives a closer experience to the arcade.
@@KimTe63 Unfortunately, I sold all my consoles (NES gen to PS2 gen) when I moved to Japan. I do have the Famicom, SFC, MD, Neogeo minis though. And also play retro games on the Switch. I miss me some DC though. From DC, I only have Jet Set Radio, Space Channel 5, and REZ HD versions on my PS account. The good ole days man. Thanks for showing us details in these videos! I really hope your channel grows!
@@foyo5497 thanks alot! Yea i think those mini consoles and ports to new hardware are great way to enjoy classics without spending much money. Who knows maybe one day we even get Dreamcast mini, would be awesome if they do it with same care as 2 megadrive/Genesis minis
Erm some out these comments here lol I think the point of these videos is going way over their heads. It’s not some fanboyism bs. It’s just an honest look at some differences and what shines better on one as opposed to the other.
Yeea some people take it too serious hah. Im very happy how well this video has been recieved and those people are just unavoidable 😄 but yes im not trying to make one system look better than other 💯
Yes, interlace artifacts would look like a sawtooth-effect... but this effect could be caused by running interlaced graphics through an upscaler maybe.
Well PS2 paired with Retrotink5x Pro like here looks better than PS3 BC . Upscaling is true but its still just upscaled 480i for games that dont support 480p . Atleast for actual discs its like that, dont know about downloaded isos
@@KimTe63 Have you looked into comparing Q3 Arena on DC to Q3 Revolution on PS2? from what I recall the PS2 ran at a higher framerate, while the DC had better visual fidelity, textures, and had KB+mouse support natively. Oh, they make adapters these days that let you use regular USB keyboards and mice, thankfully, cause I think OG keyboards and mice are stupid expensive.
I never got the love for code Veronica, the move to 3D seemed premature, I much preferred the ambience of the backdrops in the 1st 3 games. The story moved from something that was believable enough in western movie kind of way into what was basically anime tropes, most people hated Steve & the puzzle back tracking was annoying this time around. Also it seemed entirely possible to brick your progress with the plane flight. When you compare this to RE4 on the same system it manages to look rather basic. I didn't hate the game. Just puzzled how it seems to be one of the better received entries in the series.
Not on of my favorites either.. only mainline games worse than CV for me are 5,6 and Zero . Maybe even 4, never was big fsn of that one but Remake looks awesome, going to more serious and dark direction which is what i wanted
Thanks for watching 🙂 yea i agree ,so much better hah. You know ive been thinking about bringing Cube and Xbox videos aswell but man getting best possible video out of Cube is so expensive that have not done it yet. But i think i will at some point 👍
That's the issue with ps2 games, most of them are running in interlaced mode. Only few games support progressive scan. Sega really future proofed their Dreamcast games.
Do you think that was "golden" age of sports games ? Im not NBA or NFL fan but have heard those games had many features that are still missing in modern titles😁
I remember talking to this Asian guy at GameStop and he was totally ripping PlayStation telling me how crappy Sony’s hardware was and how much better the Dreamcast was. I had a Dreamcast and eventually got a PS2. But after seeing this, I have to say, maybe he was right. Some of these games looked miles better on Dreamcast compared to PS2. Too bad The Dreamcast never reached its full potential, it was headed in the right direction and was ahead of it’s time.
Maybe that guy had VGA cables for Dreamcast Back then 😀 i mean all i remember back then was my friends talking how amazing PS2 will be and best graphics ever and i did bought into hype lol 😀 but most games early on definetly look better on DC if both systems have best cables used
Games like Soldier of Fortune really shows the Dreamcast's greatest flaw: It's antiquated controller design. Playing first person shooters with the Dreamcast's controller is an exercise in futility. To play them properly on the system you need the KB+Mouse, but if you're gonna go that route you might as well play them on the PC.
Yeea I agree 😁 thing I dislike most about Dreamcast is the controller, I do like VMU tho even if barely any games really utilized it in a cool way. Yeah I mean nowdays it definitely is best and easiest to play on pc since pretty much every pc can run it haha😄 but back then it was a cool to have game for console players with m+k support
I remember you asking about GSM earlier so i went back and recorded some footage for this episode👍 i try to include gsm comparisons but probably keep it pretty short like here
If you can do the same Video but this time with component cable for the ps2, that would be really nice, I nocited that the component cable make Ps2 graphics sharper and thanks for the video.
Eveeyting in this video is actually done with high quality component cables for ps2👍🏻 main reason why Dreamcast often looks crisper is because it outputs 480p resolution while ps2 for majority of games outputs 480i . Now there are exceptions for this but for most part that’s how it is🤓
The only issue with the DC was durability. I think I bought 3 or 4. I have had no such issues with the PS2 Slim. So, the PS2 had the better value and the graphics were close enough. Still, if you wanted to play Sonic at the time(bonafide smashes*) and certain other games early on, it was the DC... *When I first played the Sonic Adv demo the first time, WHOA!
Oh ok i didnt know DC was unreliable or maybe you had worse luck than others . I have had 2 DC for years and luckily they both work to this day . Thanks for the comment . TBH i think ps2 has way better library with some really good looking games when looking at whole librarys not just games that released for both
@@KimTe63 You're right about about the game selection. That's another reason the PS2 is the winner(Ratchet was even a super rival to Sonic and who wins that in someone's mind might depend on the player). DC had the better graphics, but only slightly. PS2 had everything else, including DVD VS CD player(with DVD players you get both) and USB device charging VS none*. *It's been a very long time since I owned a DC. But, I do not remember it having a charging port...
He's probable referring to a well known problem with the power supply... but that can be solved very, very easily by using matches or tooth-sticks.@@KimTe63
Hello. Thanks for the cool stuff, you can reminisce and thanks to you you have the opportunity to see the differences between consoles. Of course, there are additional elements on PlayStation 2, such as in Soldier Of Fortune, but the original ones on Sega Dreamcast suit me better, Sega had a lot in common with arcade machines, this console still has this magic to this day. :) However, I will ask how this Free McBoot program for PlayStation 2 run games on it? Because I have it too, but I can't seem to be missing something ... I wish you a lot of success, fan from Poland :)
Thanks you so much for watching! Stay tuned for more later this year😎 about freemcboot you should search videos about how GSM works. There are already tons of videos about it 👍
@@KimTe63 Thanks for the answer. I'm glad that there will be a lot of other videos on your channel 🎥👍 Ok, then I will look for McBoot on PlayStation 2 in this topic. Finally, I will ask which country you are from ❓🤔😃 A lot of health 💪
@@nosferatu1995 yea seems like there is definetly like minded people here who have intrest to stuff like this which is great 💯 i am fellow European😎 from Finland
@@mattwolf2000 Do you use composite or Scart cable? With those you can not play 480p . VGA is only way to get 480p . Im not sure about Australian dreamcast but i do believe it can do it too. Check out some of you game covers, If there is small icon with VGA compatible text, it means that game does support 480p
PS2 generally is better at : lightning effects, shadows, particles, reflections, framerate and physics. Dreamcast is generally better at : Texture filtering, texture resolution, better overall native resolution and better color depth. Note : "progressive scan games on PS2 generally reduce color depth from 24bit to 16bit while Dreamcast run at progressive and 24bit. That's is why some progressive scan games on PS2 looks dithered, specially at large portion of the same color "
I grew up a Nintendo fan, I didn't like Sega. I also liked the ps1 but when it came to graphics the 64 blew it away even if it did look blurry, It was not a pixelated mess. Then the dreamcast came along and one of the guys at the game store I went to, imported one from Japan. I believe the game he had was power Stone. I was blown away by it. I was instantly turned into a fan and it became the first console I pre-ordered. The dreamcast had a lot of great games. I always felt the DC could've held its own against the ps2. It's sad they quit on it. Sony really put the scare in them. It turned out the ps2 was not as powerful as they claimed. It never achieved those graphics they showed in those tech demos lol.
You really need a CRT to compare these two. All we are seeing here is how well his capture device handles interlacing or, more specifically, deinterlacing. There is no flat-screen that can natively display 480i well. If using an emulator... Nvidia graphics cards completely destroy 480i / 60hz by defaulting to 480p / 30hz. AMD cards can handle 480i / 60 but only if manually set-up. I have both systems and tri-sync CRT so I can compare 15khz and 31khz on the same screen. There is definitely a difference but it is nowhere near how it looks here. Real 480i is still updating 60x per second but only displaying half of each frame. The loss of detail vs 480p is very heavily dependent on the quality of the crt.
cmon bro yea its fine if you want to only compare them on crt you go and do that but this was recorded with retrotink5x with component cables which only makes ps2 look way better than without deinterlacing. Obviously difference is smaller using 480i crt because with those displays Dreamcast is also forced to 480i even tho it can output 480P for almost every single game.. now that being said back then Sony was smart to target 480i when it truly mattered but truth is in terms of image quality Dreamcast is just more capable when not restricted by CRT . When it comes to video output DC was just more forward looking and thats why it looks sharper with modern equipment and no that does not mean it was more powerful.. could games like San Andreas or MGS2 run on DC ? we will never know but possibly not. BTW its not screen doing deinterlacing in this case but retrotink5x itself. Anyways this is not CRT comparison and thats that
@@Zebra66 Ok well that is your opinion and it's fine. Reality is most people don't wanna have crts nowadays including me , yes I've played ps2 on a crt and it looks nice and all but it does look much sharper using retrotink5x and modern display. At the end of the day this video is done just for fun and because I WAS interested to see how good these systems *at the time* of video can look with equipment out there . For those who only accept CRT comparisons and still live in 2001 go and do it yourself then , it's not a video for you unfortunately
Dreamcast was between generations, much more powerfull than fifth, but much weaker than the sixth. Rivalry with PS2 would end anyway in 2003-04, when PS2 got GTA, RE4 and other super hits. I wonder what Sega would do, new console, or just addon 256X? Anyway still love Dreamcast, still playing it on android emu.
I always remembered hearing about Dreamcast a ton then and a friend in 1st grade who would always talk about playing Ready 2 Rumble Boxing 2. In my mind and I guess at the time, Sony was seen as prestigious and top dog in electronics while Sega was sort of kiddish, so my assumption was the PlayStation tp the more powerful. Regret not getting one until about a decade later
Yea well back then everything was just so different, hype around ps2 power was just something I know I caught up into back then . Also atleast where I lived literally noone talked about Dreamcast , no one I knew even had Dreamcast or Saturn before it lol . I first saw Saturn live when it was already about 20years old haha . I was just a kid back then to be fair but still , everyone had PlayStations or some few had Nintendos
@@KimTe63 Barbie Race and Ride (fmv horse racing, how fun) and the god awful ps1 port of space station silicon valley. The company existed for less than 6 years and shat out ~30 titles. (With some being these bad ports)
@@nezxd5516 i have to disagree personally but its ok If you prefer DC👍 but spending like 10hours alone playing and recording SOF footage for this episode i have to say i never want to play my DC copy again hah 😄 but DC does have better graphics even If missing some details
Bro if the ps2 didnt have a dvd player. The Dreamcast would have rivaled the sales of the ps2 in that situation. Dreamcast all day imo. All it needed was a duel joystick revision on the controller
Crazy Taxi is one of my favourite games ever. Dreamcast looks much better. The mip mapping on Dreamcast is always really noticeable though. Maybe you could show a framerate graph more often. I prefer you keep it limited to stock footage. Soldier of Fortune was really rushed on the Dreamcast and was released at a budget price. It plays well with mouse and keyboard, but the framerate and loading times are horrible. They probably deleted a lot of details to get it to run at an acceptable rate and still get it out before the Dreamcast wouldn't be a viable platform anymore. I did complete it at the time though and had fun with it. Resident Evil Code V: I love the vmu function. I only have the PAL version. Don't understand why they dropped the VGA support. I did know that this was the case. I really don't like the extra blur on the PS2 version. Colour grading is much better on the Dreamcast. Texture resolution looks to be higher on Dreamcast. Prefer the Dreamcast version.
Thanks for comment (y) Yea id like to show framerate more often but the problem is just that it adds a lot of time doing these and not too much freetime to do these haha. Wish it was just as easy as capturing PC framerates . Yes SOF is pretty bad port but that makes it intresting these days hah. Did you know that port of RE2 has even way better VMU function compared to other re titles? Not only does it show your health , it also shows different stages of danger for example and also always tells you weapon you are using and how many ammo without ever needing to open inventory like originally in that game. its pretty cool
If the Dreamcast had lasted longer, I think it would be very close to PS2 in terms of graphics. I think Dreamcast never used 100% it's power because of it's early death. 😕
dreamcast had better resolution but i think you can only see on new tv and some games on ps2 have more details so if we speaking on crt wich was of the time ps2 in that case was better
For sure thats correct.. Back in the day barely anyone knew how Dreamcast looks in 480p. But we are not speaking about crt here, this is both at their best with modern equipment 💯👍 still crt is great way to play these
If Sega didn't roll over they could have easily competed. They had some of the best games that still hold up well but too many arcade style games fitting what they were known for, as good as code Veronica still looks on it it could have had a better RE4 than Playstation, and many other games. I get US sales weren't there but and a lot of that had to do with the built in DVD player Playstation had. As far as game play capabilities dreamcast was superior graphically. Loved my ps2 and still love a lot of the games today also love my DC just hate Sega rolled over and gave up world wide but kept things going on the home court in Japan. As things progressed I'm sure the DC would have found its love don't think it'd dethrone the king but think it would have still done greatly better than how it ended. Sega should get to work with one more go and be ready for next gen.
DVD definetly was a big feature at the right time. Do you think Sega had burned peoples trust at that point with releases like 32x and giving up on Saturn pretty quickly ?
You have some of that the wrong way around. The Dreamcast was pulled from production from within Sega Japan, they absolutely wanted to restructure Sega to software only from 2000 onwards. In the US, the Dreamcast actually sold well and it was it's key market with things like Sega Net and the 2K Sports range of titles helping garner a decent foothold. The Dreamcast only really continued with releases up to 2007 in Japan because it was reasonably easy to port visual novels and shooters to, and even then, Sega Japan stopped production of GD-Rom discs before 3-4 projects being ported to the console could be released. Realistically, they had no choice but to pull it, they were losing money on each unit sold and had very little reserves in the bank to cover that - they basically released it too cheaply, as it was meant to launch for $250 rather than $199.
I owned all four of the major consoles from the 6th gen. I generally loved them all. But let's be real, PS2 was the more powerful system than DC. Just difficult to program for like Saturn vs. PS1. Was a true 128-bit. DC was 64-bit. The graphics we got by 2005 like God of War, I'm not sure DC would've handled it. DC (1998 in Japan) came out 2 years before PS2 (2000). The thing is, I think Dreamcast and GameCube might be my favorite consoles to emulate. Sega and Nintendo gave us the more colorful, brighter, more timeless graphics. PlayStations were always darker and more muddy. I didn't feel Sony perfected colors in games until PS4! If stuck on an island, I would choose PS2 over DC and GCN. Can play PS1 games and DVDs. But I think DC and GCN have the higher replay value in their library. I would choose GCN over DC and PS2 but DC over PS2. Sega and Nintendo have this gaming magic that Sony never really had and my favorite company is Sony owning every PlayStation except PSP go and PS5.
Yes, PS2 specs are for most part better than DC . Some advantages for DC like VRAM but still would have been interesting to see if dreamcast lasted for few years more 👍 thanks for watching!
Soldier of Fortune fue un dilema en su programación para la Dreamcast, sacrificaron tiempo de loading para ganar en gráficos colores y resolución pero eso les costó estabilidad en los frames y detalles. Es superior e inferior al mismo tiempo, la versión de Playstation 2 trató de darle prioridad al juego, conservando detalles, cuadros por segundo, tiempos de carga pero sacrificando resolución y colores.
It’s a bit pointless the Dreamcast games being 480p at the time when in reality very few people will have had a TV that could display a progressive scan signal. It’s only when HDTV started to come in years later that it became relevant and by then the next generation was out and capable of up to 1080p which technology was leaping towards. PS2 could do 1080i, but think there was only a couple of games that took advantage and that was in the US at the tail end of that generation.
Ok but why is it pointless , tbh for me enough of a reason to do these was because i thought it was interesting and fun . I used countless and countless hours to do these and I'm happy alot of people do appreciate it . I do get what you are saying and I have pointed that out multiple times to people saying they didn't know the difference was so big in some cases. Isnt it even more of a reason to see what these systems can do with modern equipment? Something most never knew or saw . Well anyhoo can't please everyone
@@KimTe63 First of all I didn’t slate your video did I? I made a comment relating to the relevance of 480p on the DC at the time the games were released so kindly put your big boy pants back on and I’ll explain again, although I do think my point was made quite clearly. At the time consoles and games were released the vast majority of people using either of the consoles would have had a maximum 480i image their TV could display. Crazy Taxi for example - we had both a Dreamcast and PS2 and that game (there’s a reason - the DC was my other half’s) and there was no difference in the sharpness for us on either version because even though I had a high end TV for the time, we could only input composite which meant 480i max. Using the Nintendo Wii as an example - the difference in image quality from composite output (480i) to component output (480p) was very clear to see, but that was 2007 and not on a CRT but on a pixel perfect HDTV which had the capability of displaying 480p through a component input and even then (in the EU anyway) you had to buy the component cable separately as only the composite (480i) cable was supplied due to most households still having SD CRT TV’s - remember this is 5+ years after those games compared were released which is why I think it’s irrelevant if you’re comparing them like for like ‘at the time’ people will have been playing them like we were. 480p was a great advantage that only a tiny few will have benefited. Comparing them now on different displays where we will watch your well constructed video on an LCD screen is a different matter. It’s like comparing a high resolution image of the Mona Lisa but on a CRT monitor at 1024x768 to the same image on a UHD OLED. The DC was massively underrated clearly as its image advantages couldn’t really be taken advantage of by the typical user so a shame it was a failure really - although success compared to the Saturn which failed because of the PSX (and to be fair Sega as a company).
@@davepage1151 I do get what you are saying and I read your first posts beginning bit wrong but big reason for these videos in the first place was , how these system compare with (at the time of video) best "upscaler" retrotink5x using todays technology which obviously is developed with HDTVs in mind to play your old consoles etc . Of course I know about back then how things were different and probably 99% people had 480i crts and how difference with those is almost nothing . I have pointed out for many people here that Sony was smart to target 480i when it mattered the most but i wouldnt say it's pointless to have future looking features in consoles even if it didn't amount to anything saleswise with DCs case . About Wii , yes that's true but Wii is basically same gen as GameCube tbh
@@KimTe63 I thought you’d perhaps mis-read the first line 😂. You’re right about the consoles future proofing - like with PS2, it could do up to 1080i but aside from a couple of examples didn’t bother because it would have had such a narrow audience and obviously would sacrifice some performance which is why I imagine they would rarely go away from 480i as that’s where people were able to use it. That’s perhaps where DC went wrong because if they’d stuck to 480i they might have squeezed a bit more graphical performance got ever the audience could see although in the end it isn’t why it wasn’t as successful as it deserved. Not wanting to correct you, but the GameCube was 6th generation the same as PS2/DC/xBox but the Wii was actually 7th generation along with PS3/Xbox360 - they just didn’t try to compete on raw power of those and HD but as you know went for having experience and it worked out well for them. It was a lot more powerful than the GC to be fair and they made it backwards compatible too with even the joypad and memory cards ports.
Now, if we think of the actual release date of these two consoles... Almost 2 years between them... The Dreamcast was amazing, and in many ways ahead of it's time. If it wouldn't be for the fails in the 16/32 not era that did cost Sega so much money and trust of the players... And the overwhelming marketing for the ps2 practically starting shortly after the worldwide release of the console... A year ahead of its actual release.... Sega might still be in the hardware business today. They simply made too many mistakes, trying to prolong the life cycle of the genesis/Mega drive... Not getting it right with the saturn (too difficult to program, and lacking 3d capabilities)... And the wrong decision to go for an own disc format, instead of putting a DVD drive into the Dreamcast... Maybe with a DVD drive Sega could have saved their life in the console market, because many didn't want to buy a DVD player AND a console back then.
The Difference between PS2 Version and Dreamcast Version is not from this World! The Dreamcast Version looks so much Better than The PS2 Version......AWESOME
Yea I've learned that since video and should have mentioned it but I think comparison still should be these versions because its only available in Japanese atleast officially 👍🏻 thanks for watching!
@@RavenShinyThings stay tuned here if you like videos like this 💪🏻 I know I haven't posted content like this in a long time but I have not been able to and will be back doing stuff similar to this in 24💪🏻💪🏻
I worked in a computer shop back in 1999 , I really tried to push this system out the door but people weren't buying . . It's a shame people didn't give it a chance tbh .
I was too young when the dreamcast came out but I did play it at a friend's house very unrated console so I've got the emulator now
Amount of quality games Dreamcast has is pretty amazing considering how quickly it died
They were kind of right, I mean, Dreamcast isn't a bad console, but in 1999 people who were invested in videogames know that in 1 year PS2 and GameCube came out, and also they know Sega and the things they did so people don't trust them. And people who weren't invested in videogames didn't know that Dreamcast was a competent console, they know ps1 and Nintendo 64 better.
PS2 was just an extra 6 month wait and have you Ethernet AND the best DVD player in the market and backwards compatible. Sega got decimated.
I hadn't even seen one being sold back in the day, it was 90% ps2, 9% xbox and 1% GameCube. Sony just flooded the market.
PS2 had some amazing ass games but, my god I will forever love the Dreamcast forever!
Yes!!!❤
@@gundstaffor you can just emulate all of them on one console
@@gundstaff what does that have to do with anything
@@gundstaff oh ok now I understand but Id still want all things in onw
Many, many ass games.
I am still amazed at how good RE Code Veronica still looks on the Dreamcast. It is a work of art. The lightning looks really nice and it looks crisp. Great video.
Thanks for watching Sergio ! Yea i mean that 480p output has really aged well, looks great even without crt TV . Check out episodes 1&2 also from my channel if interested💯
It does but something like Devil May Cry completely obliterates it, i doubt that game could run at anywhere near 60 fps on Dreamcast with all the lighting & particle effects
@@eponymous7910 i believe code veronica has a more advance engine in some ways like ragdol on the zombies and animation.
The game is trash.
PS2 version looks better.. that more washed out and darker colors lend themselves better to the horror atmosphere.
in 1999 I was 10 years old and I remember going to a KB toys and seeing a Dreamcast with NFL 2k playing. I had a hard telling if I was watching a video game or an actual football game on TV. Granted I was used to mainly 16 bit graphics at the time, but I have never had a moment like that again with any other system.
Yea its crazy to think moments like that happened in the past. Last time i had experience similar to that was when i first saw Motorstorm game running on PS3, i could not believe how good it looked😁 Even tho graphics are amazing nowdays that never happens anymore. Thanks for watching Elliot 🙏
@@KimTe63 PS2 Ports.
@@KimTe63 Because the graphics of today look like cgi and is fake looking.
@@sonyx4500 you aint lying the graphics of today look very stale
Wow, in 1999 I was also 10 years old :-)
I'll never forget going over my new neighbors' house as a kid and discovering they had this new console called a "Dreamcast". I'd never heard of it. At the time, I'd only ever played NES, SNES, N64, and PS1. After saying that I thought N64 had the best graphics of any console, the 3 boys started chuckling to themselves in a knowing way. Then they booted it up. I was instantly mesmerized. I'd never seen graphics that advanced running so smoothly! I didn't have the language to describe why it looked so different back then, but now I know it was definitely due to the framerate and 480p. Not only were the textures and models great, the whole presentation just looked so different and new. Now I know why.
Then the PS2, GameCube, and XBOX came out and I never heard about the Dreamcast again until adulthood. It was ahead of it's time, but got overtaken in popularity so quickly. I probably only saw it used in person just a few times in my life. My neighbors moved on to other consoles mere months after getting the Dreamcast. It made a lasting impression on me though. Even when games with "better graphics" came out soon after, for the most part they still had that muddy/ghosting look with an unstable or low framerate. The clarity and smoothness of the Dreamcast was simply unreal at the time.
I felt the same about the newer console I never thought they looked as crisp as the Dreamcast and then trend of games being mature and colorless really turned me off to gaming in general
That effect does not exist anymore. Yes stuff nowadays is more advanced but graphics on my Series X vs my Xbox 360 are oddly similar to the untrained eye. It's not generational leaps like back in the day. Sonic Adventure had me take a seat in awe😮, but to be honest Last time I felt blown away was when I went from Xbox original to the 360. NBA live 06 at best buy watching sweat on players had me living in the future. LoL
@@torres3800 Definitely. The jump to 360 was pretty mind-blowing to me as well. I remember thinking graphics probably couldn't get much better than CoD4 and Halo 3. It was also the first time I'd seen consoles with HD support for TVs (that input lag was serious, but I didn't care unless I was playing competitively). Still, I had no conception of how good graphics could be until the Dreamcast. Like I said, the N64 and even PS1 cutscenes blew my mind as a kid. Ever since the 360 generation, everything's been improving much slower.
New games look fantastic, but they don't "wow" me anymore. I almost expect them to look amazing. I can be impressed with new games, but I'm never shocked or amazed these days. I don't know if we'll ever see that kind of jump in tech again when it comes to graphics. We may get some new things in the future as far as the way games are played or experienced, but at the moment we just have increases in lighting effects, resolution, and framerate.
Dreamcast had that PC clarity look on it's games and it looked great because of that. There are many games that had better graphical effects on the ps2 port, but the overall picture quality looked so much clearer on dc versions.
well the dreamcast was the first 6th gen console . N64 and PS1 were 5th gen.
Resident evil code Veronica on the Sega Dreamcast is one of my all time favorite moment for a memory and gaming!!
I was 15 years old when it came out and I’ll never forget how blown away I was by seeing it for the first time boot it up on my new Sega Dreamcast that I got for my birthday!!!
The game was so brutally hard, for a young 15-year-old that had recently beat resident evil two and three, but neither one of those was his hardest code Veronica and I like that about the game because one it made it last and two you felt the grand sense of reward when you finally completed it-
Thanks for watching! Yea code veronica is pretty tough game haha😀 still my favorites are original 1-3 👍 remake 2 also was fantastic despite not having as good B scenarios as original
Resident Evil Code Veronica was one of my favorite games on my Dreamcast. Get the Dreamcast in 1999 and it was a whole other level than Playstation 1 and N64. My favorite gaming console in that generation with so much potential.
Do you still play Dreamcast or just here to reminisce good old days 😎?
@@KimTe63 started to play Dreamcast again this year. I prefer to play modern games, but I still love the Dreamcast, it was my favorite console and had awesome games. Many of them didn't age too bad and still hold up.
Dreamcast were competing with Ps2 and GameCube, not with 64 and ps1.
@@pafoneto1275 nah hes right actually, it also was competing against ps1 and n64 . In Japan Dreamcast came out already in 1998
@@KimTe63
That is not fair, Dreamcast was clearly superior to these consoles, it would be like if PS3 came out in 2003, obviously would be better than every console, that is why is unfair to compare with the previous generation.
Outstanding comparison! You have a great eye for detail and I appreciate how well you were able to articulate the differences.
Thanks alot Jocko! Im just glad people enjoy these videos, thats all that matters
@@KimTe63 You are a Dreamcast Fanboy. You know that at that time Playstation 2 received Ports that did not take advantage of the potential of the console.
@@joel8558 Yes? And I mention that in episode 1 . Believe me I dont have a horse in this race . Im just interested to see how games that released for both looked compared to each other and thats excalty what this series is
@@KimTe63 Fanboy Dreamcast. PS2 God of war, Shadow of the Colossus, Matrix, Silent Hill 3, Black, Tekken 5, Resident Evil 4, Resident Evil Outbreak>>>all games Dreamcast.
@@joel8558 what are trying to say ? I meant yea I do know many of those are ports and I do mention it
Holy shit you are fucking awesome for these videos. As a Sega fanboy for over 20 years (I own 3 Dreamcasts along with multiple MegaDrives, Saturns, 32Xs, Mega CDs, etc.) I have been wanting these for years (especially since I always heard the PS2 version of CODE: Veronica had poor audio quality compared to the Dreamcast and GameCube versions).
You only have 800 subscribers?! Fuck that. You deserve over 10,000 already. Keep them coming my man!!!
Thanks so much Cloud121🙂! Well its pretty hard to get discovered in TH-cam but we are growing because of people like you who find stuff like this interesting 🙏 what are some of your favorite Sega games ? Im more of a just Dreamcast fan but did have megadrive Back in the day too
If I had to really narrow it down, Virtua Fighter 2 and the original Phantasy Star are my two absolute favorite Sega games.
But really, I love everything except Sonic (I enjoy Sonic, but not fanatical about it like the other properties). Golden Axe, Streets of Rage, Space Harrier, Outrun, Afterburner, Virtua Racing, Sega Rally, Phantasy Star, Shining, Hang On, NiGHTS, Ecco, Space Channel 5, Crazy Taxi, Propeller Arena.
I just love Sega, and miss them dearly.
@@Cloud121D Good games right there. you know i also never been big fan of sonic except as a kid i really liked sonic 2, other than that have not really played those but i just recently ordered Sonic Frontiers. Seems like its going bit more to direction i like so decided to support that game. I had to sell my Saturn collection about year ago becuase needed money for my family , stings a bit still but my favorites was also VF2 and Sega Rally. Pretty much going to focus on Dreamcast only , about to order few games for upcoming episodes 👍
Very nice covering the GSM modes! That is excellent attention to detail.
Thanks ! It was something few people have asked so decided to include it and seems people like it. Thanks for watching!🙂
My poor PS2 and Dreamcast sitting in a box in the closet haven't been turned on in over a decade. I really appreciate the good times we had.
Let them out of that box ! Just kidding i understand not everyone has urge to play these systems now. Do you still play games in general ? New stuff
Lemme have em if you're not gonna play em lol
You know when you're playing a dreamcast game. The feel within the controls to game just tells you.
this!
Yes sir
Magnetic sticks never die.
I remember playing the soldier of fortune on both. And the sound of each shot was a lot stronger and better in the dreamcast
One things I noticed in this video is the the DC is displaying square pixels. What that means is that the image is not distorted. The PS2 image is slightly lower resolution on the horizontal axis, which you can tell simply by looking at the shapes of things, especially faces, which you are more used to assessing if they look too wide.
I loved and bought both of these amazing machines at launch. Wait a minute, you missed something...well something that I think is huge. The PS2 version of Soldier of Fortune has V-Sync tearing. You can really see it starting at time stamp 9:15. It also has some very strange distortion (breaks up or pixelates) that almost looks like an over exaggerated heat wave during the same scene. I would say play that back in slow motion and check it out. Great video!
Yea i missed that🧐 you know its sometimes pretty hard to spot everything because i pretty much look at differences inside editing software ,quality of preview definetly is not as good as final product😁 . Anyways thanks alot for watching!
@@KimTe63
Hey no worries, the video was great!
@@Sinn0100 thats good to hear ! Hope to see you around here in future videos too 💯
@@KimTe63
Definitely!
What's the name of that music from Crazy Taxi?
Offspring
@@jerkusclownstar thanks!
@@seveleleventwelve
You're most welcome.
The song is called All I Want
Consider subscribing If you want to see more PS2 & Dreamcast videos when they come out 💯👍 Help me hit 1000subs 😎 thanks for watching!
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That PS2 port of Code Veronica is the updated one, it is also on Dreamcast as a later release with Steves hair looking the same in both.
Really ? I always thought Japanese special edition is only one that has code Veronica x content. Thanks for watching!
I might be remembering wrong, but did the VMU also function as a copmass while paused? In "Code Veronica"! I know it did in D2 for shure! :)
have you checked if the games didn't natively support progressive scan? it's either X and triangle or in the options of the game
I have the PS2 port of Crazy Taxi but my particular disc has glitches that make the car drive underground and everything else disappears.
I dont know if anyone said this, but code veronica X was later released for dreamcast in japan only.
Yea that has been said, i even have that version but forgot to mention it lol😀 well anyways its only in japanese so most people would not likely want to play that version
@@KimTe63 there is an English patch for it
@@techmark3665 yea i know but thats not official so not going to mention those but still its cool something like that is available nowdays 👍
If the dream cast uses the sd card mod in the place of the cd will it still load? Or will will it skip loading in games? Or portions in games that require it to load often?
I have not tried one of those but yes it still needs to load but probably much shorter loading 👍
You didn't mention in the discription if you used component, scart or VGA cables
Best available for both so component PS2 , VGA Dreamcast always If game supports it
I bought Dreamcast on launch day 9/9/99 it's literally the only console I bought on the day of launch. I took that little console to all my friends and family's house and every single person couldn't believe how incredible it was. I loved this console and I did my part trying to impress upon everyone how great it was. PS2 having DVD Playback really is what killed it.
Code Veronica was developed for the Dreamcast. Wasn't it originally meant as an exclusive but ended up on the other consoles? It was developed around both the Dreamcast hardware and controller. It should be the best way to play the game.
Yea , i think biggest reason it got ported to Playstation 2 and well GameCube couple years later also was lower sales than expected. My favorite is DC version but i guess you could argue PS2 and GC versions are better with added content. It is also nowdays available for 360 (also plays on Series consoles) and PS4 i think has version also
What a lot of people forget: a lot of the flaws back then were masked by the CRT.
This is especially visible in pixel art, you cannot compare how it looked back then and how the raw digital signal looks.
Thats 100% true . I have many times told people here it’s completely different comparing these using crt and these are more modern comparison
Great video. The PS2 is such an awesome system but I'll always have a soft spot for the Dreamcast. The differences in SOF is interesting. There are fewer details and assets in some scenes on the DC, likely due to it have less system memory, but the textures look better and that's probably from it having twice as much texture memory. I'm also not sure the ghosting in RECV is from the interlaced mode, you can still see it in the 480p mode in your video. Many studios tried to use a blur effect on PS2 to cover jaggies since it didn't have native AA support, so I'm wondering if that's what we're seeing here. Looking forward to your other videos!
Thanks so much for watching! Glad you liked it. Yeah you may be right about ghosting thing.. i thought at the time it was 480i reason . Im slowly getting back to doing these now that i soon have more freetime👍 hope to see you around !
Crazy Taxi has PSN port and maybe XBLA, iunno I played it on PS3... is that the DC version? I wonder to side by side arcade, DC, PS2 and PS3.
Soldier of Fortune is a PC game. Is it possible to put side by side of PC, DC and PS2 versions? Then the same for first Half-Life, I know ports had unique assets.
Probably PS3 version is DC version, i dont know never played it. When it comes to having pc versions aswell is ofcourse good idea and something i definetly was thinking but for now i get zero compensation for doing these and already spend no kidding tens of hours recording , editing etc per video so i just have to cut some ideas 🧐 anyways about half Life im actually thinking about doing "special" episode next which would only cover that one game and in that im looking into having pc footage too. Ofcourse half Life was never officially released for DC so it could be nice extra episode to do
simply the best plz continue man
Thanks alot Omar! I will continue always when i have freetime 👍 right now i need new pc tho .. hope i get it asap to continue
I'm so late, thank you for this part 3 !
Thanks my friend for watching!👏 im working on next video, hopefully have enough freetime to upload this week 👍
Did Code Veronica have the same save room music from RE4?
Nah haha you spotted it. I did use re4 save theme in bacground tho👍 thanks for watching Digitalkiller!👻
Brilliant video. More PS2 Vs DC videos please! 🙏
Thanks Thomas! Im waiting my new pc to arrive so i can continue 👍 hopefully i get it this week. Welcome to my channel Thomas 🤝
Dreamcast does have a dedicated reload button for soldier of fortune. I just finished playing trhough it with a game pad. One of the buttons essentially acts as a shift button. I think it was L trigger. So it doubles up the amount of buttons. For example a and then L held down and press a
Oh I see.. I didn't figure it out no matter what I did 😀 half Life has similar way to do some things and there I did figure it out eventually
DC is a beast.. I bought mines day one. The good old days.
What’s the name of the first rock track used?
I really like it
Thanks for watching fsntamark! I Will report back here name of that song soon. Cant remember it right now off the top of my head
@@KimTe63 no problem!
@@EKOHFLARE J.F Gloss - Santa in a hurry
@@KimTe63 I appreciate this! Much thanks!
Keep up the sweet work, I enjoy this channel a lot.
@@EKOHFLARE thanks alot 😎! I will be back doing videos next week when my new pc arrives 💪
About Crazy taxi:
Sega always had an issue with transparency and fog. Back at Sega Saturn, it's pretty noticeable in Castlevania Sotn, (another mutual game between Sony and Sega) the transparency being resumed to yes and no pixels with veeeeery low resolution. Curiously, in the same game, we can see ghosts with real transparency, but not much as 85 percent opacity. I think this could be some of patent struggling between companies. Just like Samsung is prohibited by LG of making OLED tvs, and, works in the gray lines, making "almost" OLED, they named "QLED"! Hahaha
Thats interesting to read👍 thanks for watching Derick ! Check out my other DC v PS2 videos if you liked the video💯
Yeah... Sony had the copyright on transparencies back then. They also had exclusive rights to warping textures, so the N64 was not allowed to do that.
About Code Veronica:
In the newer ps2 version (and probably the GameCube too) they changed Steve's hairstyle to fit like a precocious Easter egg to what resident Evil 4 would be. Remembering Capcom team chosen the visuals of John Connor to RE4 Leon's.
I agree with you on the controls of Soldier of Fortune. The controls on UT and Quake 3 were great on the dreamcast, but Soldier of Fortune was impossible for me to play on the dreamcast. Thankfully the game supported Keyboard and mouse, so i was able to play it like a pc version.
Finally got around to watching this third episode! It was interesting to see GSM mode between CT and RE CV, but honestly I'm not interested in that comparison going forward. I agree it made RE CV slightly better, and I think it made CT slightly worse
Thanks alot for watching! Yea i agree it did not really improve image in Crazy taxi . i guess i try to inlcude it atleast in a short way like i did here so those who want to see it can have it
I think the games being originally released for dc gave it the advantage. Loved the dc 👌
DC, the only console I ever bought day one. Had all 3 of these games on DC so I never bought the PS2 versions. For Crazy Taxi, being that the arcade Naomi board and DC have a similar architecture, it would make sense that the DC gives a closer experience to the arcade.
Yea i agree💯. Are you still playing Dreamcast or other 'retro' systems ?
@@KimTe63 Unfortunately, I sold all my consoles (NES gen to PS2 gen) when I moved to Japan. I do have the Famicom, SFC, MD, Neogeo minis though. And also play retro games on the Switch. I miss me some DC though. From DC, I only have Jet Set Radio, Space Channel 5, and REZ HD versions on my PS account.
The good ole days man.
Thanks for showing us details in these videos! I really hope your channel grows!
@@foyo5497 thanks alot! Yea i think those mini consoles and ports to new hardware are great way to enjoy classics without spending much money. Who knows maybe one day we even get Dreamcast mini, would be awesome if they do it with same care as 2 megadrive/Genesis minis
@@KimTe63 Would love to see a Saturn and DC mini, but they keep making different versions of the MD/Genesis mini lol.
I would love to see the GSM comparisons, yes.
I hear you👍 guess i need to try to include them atleast with short comparisons like i did here. Thanks for watching Bob!
@@KimTe63 No problem.
Dreamcast looks cleaner and sharper right off the bat. As much as I love ps2, the jaggies have always been a staple for better or worse.
What IS music in 5min please ?
Erm some out these comments here lol I think the point of these videos is going way over their heads. It’s not some fanboyism bs. It’s just an honest look at some differences and what shines better on one as opposed to the other.
Yeea some people take it too serious hah. Im very happy how well this video has been recieved and those people are just unavoidable 😄 but yes im not trying to make one system look better than other 💯
17:48 That is not an interlacing artifact. It must be some redneck motion blur from the game.
Yes, interlace artifacts would look like a sawtooth-effect... but this effect could be caused by running interlaced graphics through an upscaler maybe.
You can force progressive scan on ps2 with a backwards compatibility PS3. The system also has other features like HD upscaling
Well PS2 paired with Retrotink5x Pro like here looks better than PS3 BC . Upscaling is true but its still just upscaled 480i for games that dont support 480p . Atleast for actual discs its like that, dont know about downloaded isos
What cables are you using on both systems?
Component PS2 and VGA to scart for DC(Both high quality cables)
@@KimTe63 Have you looked into comparing Q3 Arena on DC to Q3 Revolution on PS2? from what I recall the PS2 ran at a higher framerate, while the DC had better visual fidelity, textures, and had KB+mouse support natively. Oh, they make adapters these days that let you use regular USB keyboards and mice, thankfully, cause I think OG keyboards and mice are stupid expensive.
2 minute loading times doesn't seem right on the Dreamcast. Perhaps the disc isn't in the best shape.
Believe me it is just really bad port, disc was mint condition and official disc , not burned cd or anything like that
@@KimTe63 Perhaps the devs accidentally set the drive speed to 1x or 2x, as only that would otherwise explain such loading times.
Any games ported from the Naomi hardware onto dc are going to look better than ps2
Code Veronica isn't a Naomi game
Dreamcast Flawless Victory!
I never got the love for code Veronica, the move to 3D seemed premature, I much preferred the ambience of the backdrops in the 1st 3 games. The story moved from something that was believable enough in western movie kind of way into what was basically anime tropes, most people hated Steve & the puzzle back tracking was annoying this time around. Also it seemed entirely possible to brick your progress with the plane flight. When you compare this to RE4 on the same system it manages to look rather basic.
I didn't hate the game. Just puzzled how it seems to be one of the better received entries in the series.
Not on of my favorites either.. only mainline games worse than CV for me are 5,6 and Zero . Maybe even 4, never was big fsn of that one but Remake looks awesome, going to more serious and dark direction which is what i wanted
Crazy Taxi is so much better looking on DC even with the 480P mod on PS2.
Be interested to see it compared with Cube and Xbox actually.
Thanks for watching 🙂 yea i agree ,so much better hah. You know ive been thinking about bringing Cube and Xbox videos aswell but man getting best possible video out of Cube is so expensive that have not done it yet. But i think i will at some point 👍
i believe 480p on gamecube is not possible ,max640x448p , 640x480p needs 2.4mb gamecube has max2mb for the framebuffer plus z buffer.
@@athos5359 plenty of GC games ran at 480p, shame the component cables are so scarce & exxy
@@eponymous7910i think upscaled.
Hm? 640*480 double-buffered @ 16 bit = 1,17 MB. Even at 24 bit, it's 1,78 MB.@@athos5359
That's the issue with ps2 games, most of them are running in interlaced mode. Only few games support progressive scan. Sega really future proofed their Dreamcast games.
100% but tbh it really didnt matter too much at the time. But i agree now its really nice to have ability to do 480p in most games with DC
The amazing Dreamcast home too the first NBA2k truly in a league of it own.
Do you think that was "golden" age of sports games ? Im not NBA or NFL fan but have heard those games had many features that are still missing in modern titles😁
@@KimTe63 The Dreamcast game had n0 micotransaction your player didn't need to be leveled up it was all about skill.
lol the "emotion engine" that promised toy story graphics
I remember talking to this Asian guy at GameStop and he was totally ripping PlayStation telling me how crappy Sony’s hardware was and how much better the Dreamcast was. I had a Dreamcast and eventually got a PS2. But after seeing this, I have to say, maybe he was right. Some of these games looked miles better on Dreamcast compared to PS2. Too bad The Dreamcast never reached its full potential, it was headed in the right direction and was ahead of it’s time.
Maybe that guy had VGA cables for Dreamcast Back then 😀 i mean all i remember back then was my friends talking how amazing PS2 will be and best graphics ever and i did bought into hype lol 😀 but most games early on definetly look better on DC if both systems have best cables used
Games like Soldier of Fortune really shows the Dreamcast's greatest flaw: It's antiquated controller design. Playing first person shooters with the Dreamcast's controller is an exercise in futility. To play them properly on the system you need the KB+Mouse, but if you're gonna go that route you might as well play them on the PC.
Yeea I agree 😁 thing I dislike most about Dreamcast is the controller, I do like VMU tho even if barely any games really utilized it in a cool way. Yeah I mean nowdays it definitely is best and easiest to play on pc since pretty much every pc can run it haha😄 but back then it was a cool to have game for console players with m+k support
the controller was in time. in 1999 only few games made use of dual sticks.
Dreamcast used direct x for most games which has better image quality compared to opengl in ps2 games, thats why even in 480p DC wins
I like your honest take on the comparison.
I try to keep it fair for both. I have no reason to make one look better 👍 love both systems
love this video ! Dreamcast best console ever !
Thanks NightWalker ! Im glad you did enjoy it . It makes my day knowing all the time i have used to do these wasnt for nothing 🙏💯
I feel like the parallel universe where dreamcast lived on is a utopia of sorts.
Dreamcast games like Crazy Taxi may look better for the most, but many of them were hampered by slowdown when things got busy.
GSM is great. Would love to see the comparisons 🤗
I remember you asking about GSM earlier so i went back and recorded some footage for this episode👍 i try to include gsm comparisons but probably keep it pretty short like here
If you can do the same Video but this time with component cable for the ps2, that would be really nice, I nocited that the component cable make Ps2 graphics sharper and thanks for the video.
Eveeyting in this video is actually done with high quality component cables for ps2👍🏻 main reason why Dreamcast often looks crisper is because it outputs 480p resolution while ps2 for majority of games outputs 480i . Now there are exceptions for this but for most part that’s how it is🤓
i believe crazy taxi on ps2 also had sligtly shorter drawdistance so les poly s onscreen aswel
U can play Soldier of Fortune on the DC with the mouse and keyboard or with the Panther DC and those feel better than a PS2 controller for sure
Yea but how many people have those , barely anybody but i agree i should have mention m&k support ! Thanks for watching 😎
@@KimTe63 yeah true, excellent video by the way, very in depth
@@STAXONDECK1 thanks alot ! I get my new pc very soon and continue creating new videos 🤝🙂
The only issue with the DC was durability. I think I bought 3 or 4. I have had no such issues with the PS2 Slim. So, the PS2 had the better value and the graphics were close enough. Still, if you wanted to play Sonic at the time(bonafide smashes*) and certain other games early on, it was the DC...
*When I first played the Sonic Adv demo the first time, WHOA!
Oh ok i didnt know DC was unreliable or maybe you had worse luck than others . I have had 2 DC for years and luckily they both work to this day . Thanks for the comment . TBH i think ps2 has way better library with some really good looking games when looking at whole librarys not just games that released for both
@@KimTe63 You're right about about the game selection. That's another reason the PS2 is the winner(Ratchet was even a super rival to Sonic and who wins that in someone's mind might depend on the player). DC had the better graphics, but only slightly. PS2 had everything else, including DVD VS CD player(with DVD players you get both) and USB device charging VS none*.
*It's been a very long time since I owned a DC. But, I do not remember it having a charging port...
He's probable referring to a well known problem with the power supply... but that can be solved very, very easily by using matches or tooth-sticks.@@KimTe63
The Dreamcast has better colors too. Dreamcast also supports vga cable or box at 640x480 resolution.
This is both using best available cables so VGA for Dreamcast and Component for PS2 . Both high quality ones
😢The DC was definitely an under rated console. loved mine and was my most played console that gen
Hello.
Thanks for the cool stuff, you can reminisce and thanks to you you have the opportunity to see the differences between consoles.
Of course, there are additional elements on PlayStation 2, such as in Soldier Of Fortune, but the original ones on Sega Dreamcast suit me better, Sega had a lot in common with arcade machines, this console still has this magic to this day. :)
However, I will ask how this Free McBoot program for PlayStation 2 run games on it?
Because I have it too, but I can't seem to be missing something ...
I wish you a lot of success, fan from Poland :)
Thanks you so much for watching! Stay tuned for more later this year😎 about freemcboot you should search videos about how GSM works. There are already tons of videos about it 👍
@@KimTe63 Thanks for the answer. I'm glad that there will be a lot of other videos on your channel 🎥👍
Ok, then I will look for McBoot on PlayStation 2 in this topic.
Finally, I will ask which country you are from ❓🤔😃
A lot of health 💪
@@nosferatu1995 yea seems like there is definetly like minded people here who have intrest to stuff like this which is great 💯 i am fellow European😎 from Finland
Dreamcast resolution is better than PS2, but PS2 have more detailed games.
Dreamcast siempre superó a la PS2 en resolución, pero no en detalles.
Dreamcast and PS2 are both 480i.
Ps2 just doesn't have anti-aliasing
No , thats not correct
@@KimTe63 about what?
The PS2 doesn't have anti aliasing built into its hardware.
@@mattwolf2000 i meant both of them being 480i is not true. Almost everygame can be played 480p on dreamcast If you have best available cables 👍
I'm from Australia so maybe my version doesn't have progressive scan.
@@mattwolf2000 Do you use composite or Scart cable? With those you can not play 480p . VGA is only way to get 480p . Im not sure about Australian dreamcast but i do believe it can do it too. Check out some of you game covers, If there is small icon with VGA compatible text, it means that game does support 480p
PS2 generally is better at : lightning effects, shadows, particles, reflections, framerate and physics.
Dreamcast is generally better at :
Texture filtering, texture resolution, better overall native resolution and better color depth.
Note : "progressive scan games on PS2 generally reduce color depth from 24bit to 16bit while Dreamcast run at progressive and 24bit. That's is why some progressive scan games on PS2 looks dithered, specially at large portion of the same color "
Yea you seem to know your console hardware 💯 you know even tho PS2 has reduced color depth in 480p imo its still worth tradeoff, what do you think ?
I grew up a Nintendo fan, I didn't like Sega. I also liked the ps1 but when it came to graphics the 64 blew it away even if it did look blurry, It was not a pixelated mess. Then the dreamcast came along and one of the guys at the game store I went to, imported one from Japan. I believe the game he had was power Stone.
I was blown away by it. I was instantly turned into a fan and it became the first console I pre-ordered. The dreamcast had a lot of great games. I always felt the DC could've held its own against the ps2. It's sad they quit on it. Sony really put the scare in them. It turned out the ps2 was not as powerful as they claimed. It never achieved those graphics they showed in those tech demos lol.
You really need a CRT to compare these two. All we are seeing here is how well his capture device handles interlacing or, more specifically, deinterlacing. There is no flat-screen that can natively display 480i well.
If using an emulator... Nvidia graphics cards completely destroy 480i / 60hz by defaulting to 480p / 30hz. AMD cards can handle 480i / 60 but only if manually set-up.
I have both systems and tri-sync CRT so I can compare 15khz and 31khz on the same screen. There is definitely a difference but it is nowhere near how it looks here.
Real 480i is still updating 60x per second but only displaying half of each frame. The loss of detail vs 480p is very heavily dependent on the quality of the crt.
cmon bro yea its fine if you want to only compare them on crt you go and do that but this was recorded with retrotink5x with component cables which only makes ps2 look way better than without deinterlacing. Obviously difference is smaller using 480i crt because with those displays Dreamcast is also forced to 480i even tho it can output 480P for almost every single game.. now that being said back then Sony was smart to target 480i when it truly mattered but truth is in terms of image quality Dreamcast is just more capable when not restricted by CRT . When it comes to video output DC was just more forward looking and thats why it looks sharper with modern equipment and no that does not mean it was more powerful.. could games like San Andreas or MGS2 run on DC ? we will never know but possibly not. BTW its not screen doing deinterlacing in this case but retrotink5x itself. Anyways this is not CRT comparison and thats that
@@KimTe63 you can do 480p on a crt. 480i only looks good on a CRT.
@@Zebra66 Ok well that is your opinion and it's fine. Reality is most people don't wanna have crts nowadays including me , yes I've played ps2 on a crt and it looks nice and all but it does look much sharper using retrotink5x and modern display. At the end of the day this video is done just for fun and because I WAS interested to see how good these systems *at the time* of video can look with equipment out there . For those who only accept CRT comparisons and still live in 2001 go and do it yourself then , it's not a video for you unfortunately
The Dreamcast is very sharp, very bright. For my the Dreamcast was great there.
Dreamcast was between generations, much more powerfull than fifth, but much weaker than the sixth. Rivalry with PS2 would end anyway in 2003-04, when PS2 got GTA, RE4 and other super hits. I wonder what Sega would do, new console, or just addon 256X? Anyway still love Dreamcast, still playing it on android emu.
and sega would have shenmeu 4 with better visuals than gta lol
Much weaker than the 6th... Wut. Dreamcast wasn't that far removed from the PS2.
Dreamcast is like a PS1 on steroids if you think about it.
Dreamcast is a 6th generation console.
And as was already said, it was not far off the PS2 and even had several advantages over it.
its so sad sega failed and so sad what happened to game industry
Dead Or Alive 2 is another good comparison of DC/PS2
Thanks for watching Egg64💪 yea i will take a look at that game sooner or later in this series 🙂
I always remembered hearing about Dreamcast a ton then and a friend in 1st grade who would always talk about playing Ready 2 Rumble Boxing 2. In my mind and I guess at the time, Sony was seen as prestigious and top dog in electronics while Sega was sort of kiddish, so my assumption was the PlayStation tp the more powerful. Regret not getting one until about a decade later
Yea well back then everything was just so different, hype around ps2 power was just something I know I caught up into back then . Also atleast where I lived literally noone talked about Dreamcast , no one I knew even had Dreamcast or Saturn before it lol . I first saw Saturn live when it was already about 20years old haha . I was just a kid back then to be fair but still , everyone had PlayStations or some few had Nintendos
The DC port of SOF is terrible, but what did you expect from Runecraft? :)
Now that you said that im curious what else they have done lol😀 im not familiar with runecraft
@@KimTe63 Barbie Race and Ride (fmv horse racing, how fun) and the god awful ps1 port of space station silicon valley. The company existed for less than 6 years and shat out ~30 titles. (With some being these bad ports)
better than ps2 port
@@AfterBurnerTeirusu must check out some of these for fun😀
@@nezxd5516 i have to disagree personally but its ok If you prefer DC👍 but spending like 10hours alone playing and recording SOF footage for this episode i have to say i never want to play my DC copy again hah 😄 but DC does have better graphics even If missing some details
Crazy taxi looks better on Dreamcast in my opinion
Bro if the ps2 didnt have a dvd player. The Dreamcast would have rivaled the sales of the ps2 in that situation. Dreamcast all day imo. All it needed was a duel joystick revision on the controller
recuerda que crazy taxi y re code veronica, salieron primero para la dreamcast, en ps2 son ports
That is true👍
Crazy Taxi is one of my favourite games ever. Dreamcast looks much better. The mip mapping on Dreamcast is always really noticeable though. Maybe you could show a framerate graph more often. I prefer you keep it limited to stock footage.
Soldier of Fortune was really rushed on the Dreamcast and was released at a budget price. It plays well with mouse and keyboard, but the framerate and loading times are horrible. They probably deleted a lot of details to get it to run at an acceptable rate and still get it out before the Dreamcast wouldn't be a viable platform anymore. I did complete it at the time though and had fun with it.
Resident Evil Code V: I love the vmu function. I only have the PAL version. Don't understand why they dropped the VGA support. I did know that this was the case. I really don't like the extra blur on the PS2 version. Colour grading is much better on the Dreamcast. Texture resolution looks to be higher on Dreamcast. Prefer the Dreamcast version.
Thanks for comment (y) Yea id like to show framerate more often but the problem is just that it adds a lot of time doing these and not too much freetime to do these haha. Wish it was just as easy as capturing PC framerates . Yes SOF is pretty bad port but that makes it intresting these days hah. Did you know that port of RE2 has even way better VMU function compared to other re titles? Not only does it show your health , it also shows different stages of danger for example and also always tells you weapon you are using and how many ammo without ever needing to open inventory like originally in that game. its pretty cool
If the Dreamcast had lasted longer, I think it would be very close to PS2 in terms of graphics. I think Dreamcast never used 100% it's power because of it's early death. 😕
PS3? Nah, don't underestimate the Dreamcast.. I think it would be closer to PS5.
18:48 Young DiCaprio 🙃
First person shooter controls were terrible on the dreamcast. Really suffered from not having the second joystick.
I agree 100% 😁 controller is worst part of DC to me , it just isn't very comfortable and also missing that 2nd stick
dreamcast had better resolution but i think you can only see on new tv and some games on ps2 have more details so if we speaking on crt wich was of the time ps2 in that case was better
For sure thats correct.. Back in the day barely anyone knew how Dreamcast looks in 480p. But we are not speaking about crt here, this is both at their best with modern equipment 💯👍 still crt is great way to play these
If Sega didn't roll over they could have easily competed. They had some of the best games that still hold up well but too many arcade style games fitting what they were known for, as good as code Veronica still looks on it it could have had a better RE4 than Playstation, and many other games. I get US sales weren't there but and a lot of that had to do with the built in DVD player Playstation had. As far as game play capabilities dreamcast was superior graphically. Loved my ps2 and still love a lot of the games today also love my DC just hate Sega rolled over and gave up world wide but kept things going on the home court in Japan. As things progressed I'm sure the DC would have found its love don't think it'd dethrone the king but think it would have still done greatly better than how it ended. Sega should get to work with one more go and be ready for next gen.
DVD definetly was a big feature at the right time. Do you think Sega had burned peoples trust at that point with releases like 32x and giving up on Saturn pretty quickly ?
You have some of that the wrong way around. The Dreamcast was pulled from production from within Sega Japan, they absolutely wanted to restructure Sega to software only from 2000 onwards. In the US, the Dreamcast actually sold well and it was it's key market with things like Sega Net and the 2K Sports range of titles helping garner a decent foothold.
The Dreamcast only really continued with releases up to 2007 in Japan because it was reasonably easy to port visual novels and shooters to, and even then, Sega Japan stopped production of GD-Rom discs before 3-4 projects being ported to the console could be released.
Realistically, they had no choice but to pull it, they were losing money on each unit sold and had very little reserves in the bank to cover that - they basically released it too cheaply, as it was meant to launch for $250 rather than $199.
I owned all four of the major consoles from the 6th gen. I generally loved them all. But let's be real, PS2 was the more powerful system than DC. Just difficult to program for like Saturn vs. PS1. Was a true 128-bit. DC was 64-bit. The graphics we got by 2005 like God of War, I'm not sure DC would've handled it. DC (1998 in Japan) came out 2 years before PS2 (2000).
The thing is, I think Dreamcast and GameCube might be my favorite consoles to emulate. Sega and Nintendo gave us the more colorful, brighter, more timeless graphics. PlayStations were always darker and more muddy. I didn't feel Sony perfected colors in games until PS4!
If stuck on an island, I would choose PS2 over DC and GCN. Can play PS1 games and DVDs. But I think DC and GCN have the higher replay value in their library. I would choose GCN over DC and PS2 but DC over PS2. Sega and Nintendo have this gaming magic that Sony never really had and my favorite company is Sony owning every PlayStation except PSP go and PS5.
Yes, PS2 specs are for most part better than DC . Some advantages for DC like VRAM but still would have been interesting to see if dreamcast lasted for few years more 👍 thanks for watching!
Even though i love all of the 6th gen consoles Dreamcast is my favorite.
Soldier of Fortune fue un dilema en su programación para la Dreamcast, sacrificaron tiempo de loading para ganar en gráficos colores y resolución pero eso les costó estabilidad en los frames y detalles. Es superior e inferior al mismo tiempo, la versión de Playstation 2 trató de darle prioridad al juego, conservando detalles, cuadros por segundo, tiempos de carga pero sacrificando resolución y colores.
It’s a bit pointless the Dreamcast games being 480p at the time when in reality very few people will have had a TV that could display a progressive scan signal. It’s only when HDTV started to come in years later that it became relevant and by then the next generation was out and capable of up to 1080p which technology was leaping towards. PS2 could do 1080i, but think there was only a couple of games that took advantage and that was in the US at the tail end of that generation.
Ok but why is it pointless , tbh for me enough of a reason to do these was because i thought it was interesting and fun . I used countless and countless hours to do these and I'm happy alot of people do appreciate it . I do get what you are saying and I have pointed that out multiple times to people saying they didn't know the difference was so big in some cases. Isnt it even more of a reason to see what these systems can do with modern equipment? Something most never knew or saw . Well anyhoo can't please everyone
@@KimTe63 First of all I didn’t slate your video did I? I made a comment relating to the relevance of 480p on the DC at the time the games were released so kindly put your big boy pants back on and I’ll explain again, although I do think my point was made quite clearly.
At the time consoles and games were released the vast majority of people using either of the consoles would have had a maximum 480i image their TV could display. Crazy Taxi for example - we had both a Dreamcast and PS2 and that game (there’s a reason - the DC was my other half’s) and there was no difference in the sharpness for us on either version because even though I had a high end TV for the time, we could only input composite which meant 480i max. Using the Nintendo Wii as an example - the difference in image quality from composite output (480i) to component output (480p) was very clear to see, but that was 2007 and not on a CRT but on a pixel perfect HDTV which had the capability of displaying 480p through a component input and even then (in the EU anyway) you had to buy the component cable separately as only the composite (480i) cable was supplied due to most households still having SD CRT TV’s - remember this is 5+ years after those games compared were released which is why I think it’s irrelevant if you’re comparing them like for like ‘at the time’ people will have been playing them like we were. 480p was a great advantage that only a tiny few will have benefited. Comparing them now on different displays where we will watch your well constructed video on an LCD screen is a different matter. It’s like comparing a high resolution image of the Mona Lisa but on a CRT monitor at 1024x768 to the same image on a UHD OLED. The DC was massively underrated clearly as its image advantages couldn’t really be taken advantage of by the typical user so a shame it was a failure really - although success compared to the Saturn which failed because of the PSX (and to be fair Sega as a company).
@@davepage1151 I do get what you are saying and I read your first posts beginning bit wrong but big reason for these videos in the first place was , how these system compare with (at the time of video) best "upscaler" retrotink5x using todays technology which obviously is developed with HDTVs in mind to play your old consoles etc . Of course I know about back then how things were different and probably 99% people had 480i crts and how difference with those is almost nothing . I have pointed out for many people here that Sony was smart to target 480i when it mattered the most but i wouldnt say it's pointless to have future looking features in consoles even if it didn't amount to anything saleswise with DCs case . About Wii , yes that's true but Wii is basically same gen as GameCube tbh
@@KimTe63 I thought you’d perhaps mis-read the first line 😂. You’re right about the consoles future proofing - like with PS2, it could do up to 1080i but aside from a couple of examples didn’t bother because it would have had such a narrow audience and obviously would sacrifice some performance which is why I imagine they would rarely go away from 480i as that’s where people were able to use it. That’s perhaps where DC went wrong because if they’d stuck to 480i they might have squeezed a bit more graphical performance got ever the audience could see although in the end it isn’t why it wasn’t as successful as it deserved.
Not wanting to correct you, but the GameCube was 6th generation the same as PS2/DC/xBox but the Wii was actually 7th generation along with PS3/Xbox360 - they just didn’t try to compete on raw power of those and HD but as you know went for having experience and it worked out well for them. It was a lot more powerful than the GC to be fair and they made it backwards compatible too with even the joypad and memory cards ports.
Now, if we think of the actual release date of these two consoles... Almost 2 years between them... The Dreamcast was amazing, and in many ways ahead of it's time.
If it wouldn't be for the fails in the 16/32 not era that did cost Sega so much money and trust of the players... And the overwhelming marketing for the ps2 practically starting shortly after the worldwide release of the console... A year ahead of its actual release.... Sega might still be in the hardware business today. They simply made too many mistakes, trying to prolong the life cycle of the genesis/Mega drive... Not getting it right with the saturn (too difficult to program, and lacking 3d capabilities)... And the wrong decision to go for an own disc format, instead of putting a DVD drive into the Dreamcast... Maybe with a DVD drive Sega could have saved their life in the console market, because many didn't want to buy a DVD player AND a console back then.
This is strange Resident Evil Code Veronica X was launched 1 year earlier on DreamCast than Play Station 2
It was originally Dreamcast exclusive game and later was released for PS2&Gamecube
@@KimTe63 Maybe due to slow sales they released it to Play Station 2
@@hassansyed5661 yea and Dreamcast was discontinued so it made sense to release it for other systems aswell👍
It was an exclusive game for Dreamcast.
The Difference between PS2 Version and Dreamcast Version is not from this World! The Dreamcast Version looks so much Better than The PS2 Version......AWESOME
Veronica x was on dc japan only but should be the comparison
Yea I've learned that since video and should have mentioned it but I think comparison still should be these versions because its only available in Japanese atleast officially 👍🏻 thanks for watching!
@@KimTe63 thanks for making it.
@@RavenShinyThings stay tuned here if you like videos like this 💪🏻 I know I haven't posted content like this in a long time but I have not been able to and will be back doing stuff similar to this in 24💪🏻💪🏻