I wrecked my last quad some years ago, it's mind-blowing how far the tech has come since then. I'd like to get back into it with one of these new O3 capable whoops, but I'll have to replace my old Fatsharks as well.
I think this form factor is in a transition period. several tiny 75-90mm frames on 2s have a place and should be pretty interesting. I think the eventual winner will be a little more powerful than 1003. maybe 1202 or 1303.
I done really enjoy your videos and no, I have not bought all the quads you presented on your channel :) When you pass an elastic for front to back batteries, you can still twist it and toilet tank the battery. One side comes from the front and the other side from the back. That maintains the toilet :) Lastly a friend made an HDZ 85mm with 1003s and the mob8 light frame. That thing is great fun! For a 1103 fan, I was surprised by the 1003!
Very Nice Video ! I wanna buy one. I have a question: So can I fly safe lower then 3.5v how low ? Of course when I bring them home I will charge them up to 3.5 storage voltage. But how low we can go, so no do any damage to the battery ?
Sharp looking quad there. Odd to see bi blades but it looks like it's working just fine the way you zipped through the backyard. Looks way more capable than the last one as far as zoomies go. And it comes in HDZero. Nice to see a lot more smaller HD stuff coming out. Sub250 ftw! Thanks for the video, Cheers!
Okk yes this one is super nice!! So I’ll be flying the DJI mini 3 for outside and then transition to flying this into the inside shot, I think this one is the winner
The purple GNB 60c batteries never seem to have a good application. They are suppose to be lightweight option for low draw cruisier builds, but in my experience they never seem to pan out. appreciate the look at this quad setup. Been debating going naked 03 units on my paco pivos, but now Im debating whether or not I want to keep the full build 03's to put on the 5in quads and then get pre-stripped 03's for the picos...
Great Review as always. I would Love you to compare the flywoo normal O3 with the Mob 8 normal O3, i do Not plan to nakedise my O3 since I plan to swap it occasionally (wing, LR build) I think mob 8 makes swapping relatively easy what do you think about the flywoo in this regard? Thanks for your opinion.
Thanks for the great video! I am really temted to buy this. BTW what is that reflection or smething in top right hand corner for example at 15:06 ? I haven't seen that on O3 before. Maybe a filter was used which doesn't have great antireflective coatings?
I agree with you on the durability of the pavo pico, but mine did drop about 15 feet yesterday straight into concrete with no damage. I was definitely surprised.
If I may say over the year that I have watched your channel, your freestyle has improved a lot. Awesome flying sir. I'm just waiting to see that popup over the house chimney diver between the bush and house that would be killer move. Good review putting the quad though it's pacses.
If i get the bnf and i already have the DJI headset already that came with my DJI FPV and i have the controller so cant i just buy the flylens 85 drone ? and the 2s that i need for the drone
Thank you for the final comparison but could you also compare it to the GEPRC CineLog20 and Darkstar20 as well as Pavo20? I'm looking for real estate/indoor events drone. To be future proof I'd prefer it to be able to carry bones GoPro that's why I discarded Pico. I care for it to be durable and quiet.
So glad you reviewed this drone, I've been waiting for a good review before I buy one. Do you think there will be much of a difference between O3 and naked O3? I have a full ND filter set for the normal O3 system and I want it for filming while travelling.
HI Nick, thanks for this review. Decided to pick up this drone after watching a bunch of your reviews. Can you please share some rates for indoor cruising vs outdoor freestyle? Thanks in advance
im assuming you are charging your 850 to 4.35? as they are lihv they only get the 850 if you charge them to 4.35. i gotta say that micro quad is quite interesting!
So this is a good one! I am not sure if I like the "naked" 03 air unit - that has not been around for that long (as far as I know) so no durability data... is it possible with a standard 03 air unit? Do you have any opinions on the Foxwhoop 25 - the one they claim is indestructible... as that seems like a good feature to have in a quad so it sure would be great if it actually flew nicely. (also, I have one of those so... I am kind of rooting for it!) I am going to look up your review on it but if you have more recent experiences with it good or bad it would be nice to hear about them. Cheers
I did review the foxwhoop, I crashed it into the chimney a bunch of times. This is much smaller than the foxwhoop series. I am not sure the foxwhoop lineup has an O3 option or not.
Hey Nick great review what about analog haven't seen a review on that one is 3:53 only 61gr . How do you think it will perform still run analog and can't seem to find info on camera it comes Micro H1 haven't seen analog review what do you think compared to flywoo nano 2 inch but I like this form factor .
Thx for your reply and information hopefully the camera on the analog is decent but I think I will grab love 2 inch hopefully the prop guards don't hold it back
Hi Nick, New B here, l very like the slow smooth flying in and around your house. What is your rate setting with this drone. I have PNP version, using DJI controller 2 with DJI gaggle integra.
Hey nick I love the vids, I'm in a boat of buying my fist drone and I want it to be a 2.5-3.5' freestyle under 150, I've seen you've flown a lot in this category rather its th2 freestyle or the tinyape, which one would you mostly recommend out of the ones you have that fit the budget. Thanks
I am not up to date on current pricing for all those meeting that budget. I have to choose between the two listed I suggest the tinyape as they both fly very similarly but the tinyape has a much more powerful vtx to give you more goggle clairity.
It’s good they sent a card with the flight controller diagram. They had several on their website that had conflicting 5v and G pads which made me blow a crossfire rx. That’s unacceptable, but what can u do.
versions do change and the pad can move around, when looking online we have to look for each pad to be in the same location as our and the overall component layout matches what we have or we have to keep hunting down a matching wire map.
Thanks for the break down. Would this drone work with my dji controller 2? I think you said it would at the 1:30 mark, but want to make sure before spending my money since RDQ doesn't do refunds for open boxes. I asked RDQ this question and they said they don't sell the dji controller 2 and don't know. Thanks!
The dji O3 video system can also double for the control link. I too don't have the controller 2, but on paper its compatible. In most cases we need to by the pnp version, but its possible the manufacturer didn't wire the o3 for control link. Best to check the manufacturer to be sure.
@@WhitCoburn my pleasure. the manufacturers will be back from the lunar new year holiday shortly but they could have a backlog of email to work through. Just FYI
Mr. NICK. Today after received my new fluwoo flylens85 who I bought after your video, I binding the V2 googles and dji controller 2 and it don't fly... I'm newbie with BF.... the batterys are full too. I can see the image in google from drone, the drone switch ON. but dont arm...😅😅😅😅 can you help me about it!? Thanks in advance!
Is it a valid use of this type of platform to fly it with an analog system while using a Thumb or similar for the "good" footage? I mean, that's how lots of people have done it, right?
Thanks, Nick. I'm only a year into this and I've never build or bought a cine type quad. Thanks for the awesome videos! You're one of my go-to folks. Your review vids have covered just about everything I've ever needed to know. @@NickBurnsFPV
Nick, I'm still around the middle of the video, but let me tell you... When I reviewed the Eachine Twig I spent almost 7 minutes, recording nothing, confused as heck because of my batteries as well... I had 2 3s GNB batteries, one 450mAh and the other 550mAh... And the 550mAh was lighter! Either way, I gave up trying to understand back then. You should do the same. 😬
Hey this is off topic from the video but would you recommend the Meteor 75 Pro or meteor 65pro with LiteRadio 2Se and VR03 FPV Goggles for a not that expensive beginner set up?
I wouldn't use the lite radio. Its dependent on betafpv updating the elrs firmware. The jumper T-lite elrs is a better budget option. Otherwise the other parts will work well together.
@@NickBurnsFPV Thank you so much for your feed back from watching your videos and other peoples I’ve decided to buy the Meteor 65pro, jumper T-lite elrs, with the EV800Ds please let me know if you think something else would be better with this set up I’m mostly going to be flying indoors like you.😁👍 thanks
@@NickBurnsFPV Thank you so much for your feed back from watching your videos and other peoples I’ve decided to buy the Meteor 65pro, jumper T-lite elrs, with the EV800Ds please let me know if you think something else would be better with this set up I’m mostly going to be flying indoors like you.😁👍 thanks
Its hard for me to say with any direct comparison on the same quad. Yes, its worth it to reduce weight on a micro (2inch prop), 5-10 grams less is a big boost in agility and adds flight time. Now the risk is still to be determined. As we see more and more quads with a nake/lite O3 we will know more.
Sorry, I'm jacking the thread, but I am frustrated. I have a brand new mobula 7 1s, and I can not get it to bind with the zorro elrs. It says it's bound when I try to arm it, and it says SOMETHING ABOUT RPM FILTER. I DIDN'T CHAnGE ANYTHING. Is my motor protocol set wrong its set to dshot? Elrs zorro is 2.x and drones are 2.x. the meteor 75 works fine. If I had hair I'd be pulling it out.
Sorry is there two problems....binding and rpm filter? For the binding issue see if turning off or on model match in the elrs lua on the radio resolves it.
@@Nam_flies_drones yea, its really an impossible task over the course of months or years to gauge which might be more or less loud unless they really standout and if it does I do try to include that in the narration of the flights. Otherwise, I include flight audio from my flying spot in each video for all viewer to try to gauge if they hear the flight differently from one to another.
I have the pavo20 it will be a while yet. The darkstar 20 I don't have. Geprc did make contact but I don't think they got it sent before they went on holidy.
@@NickBurnsFPV I have only mobula8 and now geprc smart35 ... that pavo20 is interesting. But I dont have any trust for betafpv after my pavo pico aio dies after 2 months
Those lipos are too heavy for this tiny whoop! 720 mah is probably right at heavy limit where performance is significantly hindered, but it will still fly ok. 850 mah most likely goes beyond heavy limit where flight time increases, so it gets less flight time because it's too damn heavy! Remember, Flywoo ALWAYS recommends ridiculously heavy lipos to up predicted flight times. Dumb! 🤦 Especially on these ultra fragile 85mm whoops that are made specifically for slow cruising video taking. Fly these fast and watch them explode on crash! 🥴 Honestly, this size is too small and too fragile ... that's why it's just for slow cruising for smooth videos! Fly this freestyle and RIP IT, and watch it self destruct on crash! Especially with these stupidly heavy lipos! 💥 KABOOM! 💥 A 95mm, yes just 3/8" bigger, is sooooo much more versatile and durable! Way, WAY faster and you can freestyle it! But, people love to put the best gear on the smallest platform! That doesn't mean it's gonna be good... And especially durable...cuz it's NOT! It's the Smallest...and Most Fragile! That's it! 😮🤔
Hey ive burnt one of my esc on my tinyhawk 2 and cant order a new one because i dont have any money left, I'm also doing my gcse so its really stressful, i love the hobby and hate the fact that I can't enjoy it could you spare a flight bord or a drone if you have one that you don't use or don't want please. Thanks
@@NickBurnsFPV I will have to wait for a sale loll and use my greasy cine whoop for the time being haha man it’s insane the jumps fpv has taken!! So happy a channel keeps up with the latest stuff 🙏🏽🕺🏻
@@NickBurnsFPV LOL, another tangentially related comment/question...has anyone out there tried putting an AIO FPV camera on a stunt kite, put on goggles and tried to fly while looking back at themselves? I think that would be a real trip!!! The flight time would be really impressive wit that as well!!! Perhaps I would need an RID module for that as well...dang it!!!!
@@sulkhanamami With micros at the 2inch prop size there isn't an opportunity to mount the O3 inside the body, so its either on top or the bottom. So far I haven't had any trouble with damage to the O3.
i ve heard flywoo shipping is extremely slow . reports of some people waiting over 3 months before getting their order . if other companies would sell this id be all over it
You nailed all my questions Nick…. So the most fun are the flywoo and mobula 8 kinda what i was thinking but now you get to show us Fantastic review Thanks
Well done review, Nick! 😎🤘 Keep in mind guys... For manufacturers it's all about getting the best gear (DJI 03) on the smallest craft. That doesn't necessarily mean it's a great idea... All of these 85mm whoops are very fragile with the 03 camera sitting right out there waiting to be smashed! 😢 Did you know a 95mm whoop is ONLY 3/8" BIGGER? Yup, mm's confuse some. A whole 25mm = 1". So, the next size up is barely any bigger ... But, much more durable, and an unbelievably more capable flyer! Smallest, lightest is great, but it's at the sacrifice of strength and durability. Making ALL of these 85's fragile and made for cruising. You know why the manufacturers saying made for cruising? Because of you try to RIP IT, or freestyle it, and you aren't ultra skilled ... 💥KABOOM💥 I can see many, MANY pilots displeased with the "pile of parts" they are left with after crashing! And I don't think it has to be a very hard crash, either. Fun fact: Did you know some much more durable 95mm whoops with fly on 3S & 4S? 😉👍 (I've used a tiny 450mah 3S and 4S!)
@@DeyRonUSA I don't think they make it any more, but the BetaFPV 95X V3 frame. It's a good design, but I'll admit, a lot of the reason I like it is because its only $15 retail (I got one on ebay, on sale, for $5 ! + $5 shipping). I also think the GepRC frames are superb The Cinelog25 would be my choice. I haven't looked at what they call their latest CineWhoop series, so maybe its good too. Problem is, last time I looked at those that 25 frame was $32 ! Over double BetaFPV one. Other brands were even higher priced. 95X V3 frame is durable, light, and designed really well. Remember, it's a V3, so 3rd design. BetaFPV always takes 3 versions to get it right! Lol SERIOUSLY. Best of luck! 😎🤘
Yes, the as of late dumping on betafpv is nuts. They have pioneered a lot of cool new ideas, and with new comes learning and improvement. I have both frames sitting (95xv3 and pavo25) been contemplating a ultralight 25 mm cinewhoop using c135 since they only weigh 6grams each. If you can get a 25mm below 130 with battery (no external action cam) that may be a sweet spot...
@@DeyRonUSA you're wanting a build like troncat fpv for his real estate cinewhoop. 1303.5 motors are awesome. Unfortunatly hglrc seems to have discontinued them. If you find some, grab a few. Troncat went for 6s.
Those purple GNB HV batteries aren't what they're advertised! I have several 4S "1100mah" HV GNB batteries and they are lighter and perform worse than a Tattu R-Line 850 or CNHL 850. My opinion is that they are a scam.
Its nice when someones iq is above 100 when reviewing technical flying electronics and are not all woke agenda with tattoos etc on face or goofy ass looking. Always enjoy your reviews sir. I ordered one of these yesterday as well as the foxwhoop 35 03 as well. week after buying the foxeer mega4 03 6s and iflight helion 10, which was a week after buying 3 racing offroad rc's at great deals on fb, which was a week after yeaaaaaaaa my hobby room i wish was 2000sq ft lol. over 150k in stuff now.
Whew! Such heavy lipos! Me, I'd be using much lighter lipos to significantly improve performance, agility, handling, and lessen the damage in a crash. I've found that Flywoo recommends some stupidly heavy lipos that are all about making their craft into a fly barge while giving it longer flight time. Barges fly like crap! And we all know "It's all about weight with whoops", so I'd fly this with a much lighter lipos. Fly Like a Butterfly, don't sting like a ... Barge! 🤷🤦 Because the whoop is sooooo much lighter it doesn't get that much less flight time per lipo! But, it flies sooooo much better and with as fragile as these 85mm whoops with 03 are, less damage in a crash is Just What I'm After! Switching lipos is really easy and fast. So more light lipos = more fun & less damage! You guys use your heavy lipos and see how long these Barges Last! Not long, I'll bet! Many report busting up their Pavo Pico's! ... Soon after spending all that dough!😢 😎🤘
I wrecked my last quad some years ago, it's mind-blowing how far the tech has come since then. I'd like to get back into it with one of these new O3 capable whoops, but I'll have to replace my old Fatsharks as well.
Yea the hd fpv is expensive and only getting more expensive
Your videos are never boring My friend 🖤 thanks You for the information. Just purchased the cineon c20 bases on your videos!
I think this form factor is in a transition period. several tiny 75-90mm frames on 2s have a place and should be pretty interesting. I think the eventual winner will be a little more powerful than 1003. maybe 1202 or 1303.
I done really enjoy your videos and no, I have not bought all the quads you presented on your channel :)
When you pass an elastic for front to back batteries, you can still twist it and toilet tank the battery. One side comes from the front and the other side from the back. That maintains the toilet :)
Lastly a friend made an HDZ 85mm with 1003s and the mob8 light frame. That thing is great fun! For a 1103 fan, I was surprised by the 1003!
That flight time is impressive. I decased my 03 on mob8 and get 3.5-4minutes. It is such a great format for HD whooping.
Try gemfan 2015 props . More efficient. I like the gemfan 2040 most actually. Inbetween 2015 and 2023
Very Nice Video !
I wanna buy one.
I have a question:
So can I fly safe lower then 3.5v how low ?
Of course when I bring them home I will charge them up to 3.5 storage voltage.
But how low we can go, so no do any damage to the battery ?
Sharp looking quad there. Odd to see bi blades but it looks like it's working just fine the way you zipped through the backyard. Looks way more capable than the last one as far as zoomies go. And it comes in HDZero. Nice to see a lot more smaller HD stuff coming out. Sub250 ftw! Thanks for the video, Cheers!
Okk yes this one is super nice!! So I’ll be flying the DJI mini 3 for outside and then transition to flying this into the inside shot, I think this one is the winner
The purple GNB 60c batteries never seem to have a good application. They are suppose to be lightweight option for low draw cruisier builds, but in my experience they never seem to pan out. appreciate the look at this quad setup. Been debating going naked 03 units on my paco pivos, but now Im debating whether or not I want to keep the full build 03's to put on the 5in quads and then get pre-stripped 03's for the picos...
Dang! I've only flown 5", but i've been wanting to get into a 2 or 3 in. I want a DJI one! Awesome Nick, thanks.
Fantastic flying and review, Nick! Thanks a bunch! 😃
Enjoy your trip!!!
Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊
Great Review as always. I would Love you to compare the flywoo normal O3 with the Mob 8 normal O3, i do Not plan to nakedise my O3 since I plan to swap it occasionally (wing, LR build) I think mob 8 makes swapping relatively easy what do you think about the flywoo in this regard? Thanks for your opinion.
I'm debating just buying the frame and making this a 3s for broadcasting and filming over crowds.
Thanks for the great video! I am really temted to buy this. BTW what is that reflection or smething in top right hand corner for example at 15:06 ? I haven't seen that on O3 before. Maybe a filter was used which doesn't have great antireflective coatings?
That is the me filter I applied during the flight. The hd filter was not fully seated
Very helpful and super impressive freestyle. Thank you
I agree with you on the durability of the pavo pico, but mine did drop about 15 feet yesterday straight into concrete with no damage. I was definitely surprised.
Nice that it didn’t get damaged
If I may say over the year that I have watched your channel, your freestyle has improved a lot. Awesome flying sir. I'm just waiting to see that popup over the house chimney diver between the bush and house that would be killer move. Good review putting the quad though it's pacses.
Yea that is more of a luck move as when I hit that I don’t go straight which is what I am trying to do
@@NickBurnsFPV :) Luck or not it still looks cool. It makes me sit back in my chair
Everyone says those filters always do that with the reflections and it’s not about it being on all the way
If i get the bnf and i already have the DJI headset already that came with my DJI FPV and i have the controller so cant i just buy the flylens 85 drone ? and the 2s that i need for the drone
great vid. your 720 gmb's have a much higher C-rating than the 850's that makes a difference.
Those 850's are HVs. They should be lighter. Are you charging them to 4.35?
He doesn't charge multi cell packs to hv....for longevity, he feels.
I don't always reply to 10 month old posts, but today I do. 😅✌🏻
I like flywoo the nano baby 20 is my favorite tiny quad.
Thank you for the final comparison but could you also compare it to the GEPRC CineLog20 and Darkstar20 as well as Pavo20? I'm looking for real estate/indoor events drone. To be future proof I'd prefer it to be able to carry bones GoPro that's why I discarded Pico. I care for it to be durable and quiet.
its here th-cam.com/video/87paFkhZLIY/w-d-xo.html
Sorry if you talked-about this, but with configurations you have in betaflight? Thanks!
Do you mean my rates for betaflight?
@@NickBurnsFPV yep!
Please!
@@lock_n_load I have this video on it. th-cam.com/video/llpHcWQx8q8/w-d-xo.html&t
@@NickBurnsFPV thanks Nick!
So glad you reviewed this drone, I've been waiting for a good review before I buy one. Do you think there will be much of a difference between O3 and naked O3? I have a full ND filter set for the normal O3 system and I want it for filming while travelling.
For flat flying I don’t see there much of a difference between o3 lite and not. The difference will be discernible in more aggressive flight
@@NickBurnsFPV thank you 🙏🏼
I have had similar experiences with the 4s gnbs, where my 720s consistently gives me better flight times than my 850s. Something definitely seems off.
18:34 your orbit around that squirrel was nice and tight in acro mode! You can really rip!
HI Nick, thanks for this review. Decided to pick up this drone after watching a bunch of your reviews. Can you please share some rates for indoor cruising vs outdoor freestyle? Thanks in advance
I haven't even watched the video yet! Here💰💰💰 take my money!!!
Mmm. Idk now. Not a fan of a decased o3 on the bottom exposed like that.
Great video as always! Thx
im assuming you are charging your 850 to 4.35? as they are lihv they only get the 850 if you charge them to 4.35.
i gotta say that micro quad is quite interesting!
So this is a good one! I am not sure if I like the "naked" 03 air unit - that has not been around for that long (as far as I know) so no durability data... is it possible with a standard 03 air unit? Do you have any opinions on the Foxwhoop 25 - the one they claim is indestructible... as that seems like a good feature to have in a quad so it sure would be great if it actually flew nicely. (also, I have one of those so... I am kind of rooting for it!)
I am going to look up your review on it but if you have more recent experiences with it good or bad it would be nice to hear about them. Cheers
I did review the foxwhoop, I crashed it into the chimney a bunch of times. This is much smaller than the foxwhoop series. I am not sure the foxwhoop lineup has an O3 option or not.
Hey Nick great review what about analog haven't seen a review on that one is 3:53 only 61gr . How do you think it will perform still run analog and can't seem to find info on camera it comes Micro H1 haven't seen analog review what do you think compared to flywoo nano 2 inch but I like this form factor .
On analog due to lower weight and less vtx/camera power draw it will fly longer and more aggressively than the hd versions
Thx for your reply and information hopefully the camera on the analog is decent but I think I will grab love 2 inch hopefully the prop guards don't hold it back
Hi Nick,
New B here, l very like the slow smooth flying in and around your house. What is your rate setting with this drone. I have PNP version, using DJI controller 2 with DJI gaggle integra.
I cover my rates here th-cam.com/video/llpHcWQx8q8/w-d-xo.html beware I use high rates, most don't care for rates like those I use.
Hey nick I love the vids, I'm in a boat of buying my fist drone and I want it to be a 2.5-3.5' freestyle under 150, I've seen you've flown a lot in this category rather its th2 freestyle or the tinyape, which one would you mostly recommend out of the ones you have that fit the budget. Thanks
I am not up to date on current pricing for all those meeting that budget. I have to choose between the two listed I suggest the tinyape as they both fly very similarly but the tinyape has a much more powerful vtx to give you more goggle clairity.
Which is quietest, Pavo Pico, Mobula 8, Defender 16, or FlyLens 85? I'm curious how each of those quads sound compared to one another.
Probably they Pavo pico, but best for you to decide
It’s good they sent a card with the flight controller diagram. They had several on their website that had conflicting 5v and G pads which made me blow a crossfire rx. That’s unacceptable, but what can u do.
versions do change and the pad can move around, when looking online we have to look for each pad to be in the same location as our and the overall component layout matches what we have or we have to keep hunting down a matching wire map.
Thanks for the break down. Would this drone work with my dji controller 2? I think you said it would at the 1:30 mark, but want to make sure before spending my money since RDQ doesn't do refunds for open boxes. I asked RDQ this question and they said they don't sell the dji controller 2 and don't know. Thanks!
The dji O3 video system can also double for the control link. I too don't have the controller 2, but on paper its compatible. In most cases we need to by the pnp version, but its possible the manufacturer didn't wire the o3 for control link. Best to check the manufacturer to be sure.
Thanks!@@NickBurnsFPV
@@WhitCoburn my pleasure. the manufacturers will be back from the lunar new year holiday shortly but they could have a backlog of email to work through. Just FYI
Mr. NICK.
Today after received my new fluwoo flylens85 who I bought after your video, I binding the V2 googles and dji controller 2 and it don't fly... I'm newbie with BF.... the batterys are full too. I can see the image in google from drone, the drone switch ON. but dont arm...😅😅😅😅 can you help me about it!? Thanks in advance!
If you connect usb to the drone and launch the betaflight application does the receiver page show the sticks moving when you move them physically?
@NickBurnsFPV I whacked some TH-camrs and found the solution. SWITCHED the wrong buttons to arm and disarm the drone. Thanks mate
@@lock_n_load I see a modes/aux switch issue
Looks nice, but I just bought the Mobula 8 HD03 and it seems to be a bit quieter
15:03 whats going on with the glare up in the top right?
I cover that in the video, its the nd filter
@@NickBurnsFPV must have missed that part!
Do you think that it's possible to do this kind of controlled indoor flying with a 25 size for example the new Geprc cinelog25 V2? Thank you!!
possible yes, harder than 2s 2inch also yes. most of the 2.5inchers are 4s which makes throttle control all the more sensitive and challenging.
I am thinking of buying either the pavo pico or darkstar 20 which one should I get? I want a silent and stealth drone to fly mainly indoors.
darkstar 20 is likely the most quiet if that is the main characteristics.
Did you need to set the Uart to VTX(MSP) ?. My OSD and arming is messed up on my Flywoo Flylens 85. I'm also using the Goggles 2 and DJI 03 lite
Yes the hd video systems need a uart, be sure it’s wired right. Rx goes to tx and tx goes to Rx
@@NickBurnsFPV Got it. Thanks for help.
Test acrobee 75mm
Is it a valid use of this type of platform to fly it with an analog system while using a Thumb or similar for the "good" footage? I mean, that's how lots of people have done it, right?
Sure, its a good option. We have been carry go and go2 on 2inch 2s for several years.
Thanks, Nick. I'm only a year into this and I've never build or bought a cine type quad. Thanks for the awesome videos! You're one of my go-to folks. Your review vids have covered just about everything I've ever needed to know. @@NickBurnsFPV
Nick, I'm still around the middle of the video, but let me tell you... When I reviewed the Eachine Twig I spent almost 7 minutes, recording nothing, confused as heck because of my batteries as well...
I had 2 3s GNB batteries, one 450mAh and the other 550mAh... And the 550mAh was lighter!
Either way, I gave up trying to understand back then. You should do the same. 😬
Lol probably good advice there
Hey this is off topic from the video but would you recommend the Meteor 75 Pro or meteor 65pro with LiteRadio 2Se and VR03 FPV Goggles for a not that expensive beginner set up?
I wouldn't use the lite radio. Its dependent on betafpv updating the elrs firmware. The jumper T-lite elrs is a better budget option. Otherwise the other parts will work well together.
@@NickBurnsFPV Thank you so much for your feed back from watching your videos and other peoples I’ve decided to buy the Meteor 65pro, jumper T-lite elrs, with the EV800Ds please let me know if you think something else would be better with this set up I’m mostly going to be flying indoors like you.😁👍 thanks
@@NickBurnsFPV Thank you so much for your feed back from watching your videos and other peoples I’ve decided to buy the Meteor 65pro, jumper T-lite elrs, with the EV800Ds please let me know if you think something else would be better with this set up I’m mostly going to be flying indoors like you.😁👍 thanks
@@ZK_-hs5es 65m is better size for most indoor. I think that setup will work well.
@@ZK_-hs5es If you have trouble with video reception try running on raceband 8, its outside of wifi interference.
Hi Nick, do you have the internal diameter for the ND filter? I’m wondering if they’ll fit the Walksnail V2 Cameras. Thanks.
I don't, I wouldn't trust my calipers down to the 100th millimeter which we likely need to ensure proper fit.
Which drone the fly lens 85 or the oddity 35 for freestyle
very odd questions, far different quads, 3.5inch prop vs 2inch. Not in the same category in my mind.
If you had to chose between the FlyWoo Flylens 85 and the Pavo Pico, which would you choose? One more question... Does it come with DJI air unit 03?
I chose the flylens85. I don’t believe either come with the O3. But they may have added that option post my review
NICK - Pushing 2.8v near the POOL MADE ME NERVOUS LOL thanks for the review... just bought one....
Noice, waiting anxiously for the review! Hahah
Yea I was really risking it, really knew it was low but not that low
@@baron93002thanks Baron ! Hoping to get it before the end of the month 🤞
Great review 🙂have a great trip
Are you flying indoors with acro mode? i am still new to this, I can't really tell the diffrence.
yes, I fly acro nearly exclusively.
Is it really worth the weight savings vs durability of choosing the 03 lite over the regular 03?
Its hard for me to say with any direct comparison on the same quad. Yes, its worth it to reduce weight on a micro (2inch prop), 5-10 grams less is a big boost in agility and adds flight time. Now the risk is still to be determined. As we see more and more quads with a nake/lite O3 we will know more.
Thanks, cool Video. Can I flight this copter with DJI Goggle V2 and DJI RC2?
Yea get the pnp version with the O3 air unit
Sorry, I'm jacking the thread, but I am frustrated. I have a brand new mobula 7 1s, and I can not get it to bind with the zorro elrs. It says it's bound when I try to arm it, and it says SOMETHING ABOUT RPM FILTER. I DIDN'T CHAnGE ANYTHING. Is my motor protocol set wrong its set to dshot? Elrs zorro is 2.x and drones are 2.x. the meteor 75 works fine. If I had hair I'd be pulling it out.
Sorry is there two problems....binding and rpm filter? For the binding issue see if turning off or on model match in the elrs lua on the radio resolves it.
😅 comes with a STICKER I am sold😊
How do i get my voltage to show up analog style like that
add the osd element "battery voltage" via the betaflight configuration application
@@NickBurnsFPV thanks
Which controller are you using in this video? Thanks!
radio master zorro with elrs.
How can we avoid a reflection from the ND filter?
as in the video, its not fully seated or attached in my video.
I realy enjoyed this video!
How about “quietest” of these small cinewhoops?
To me they are all loud. To judge the sound over the category would be a large undertaking and audio measuring equipment.
@@NickBurnsFPV thanks! agreed they all sounded kinda loud. I don’t need exact, that’s a perfect answer ha
@@Nam_flies_drones yea, its really an impossible task over the course of months or years to gauge which might be more or less loud unless they really standout and if it does I do try to include that in the narration of the flights. Otherwise, I include flight audio from my flying spot in each video for all viewer to try to gauge if they hear the flight differently from one to another.
Is it possible to mount a normal o3 (not decased) on this drone?
yes. they have Full size O3
Yes we need to select the O3 option on the product page
Between pavo pico, mob8 and flylens85 which one do you think flies better outdoor for acro?
I believe I cover that at the end of the vid o
flylens85
Hi Nick
Can you review the Nexa evo 3/3.5 dij o3 from avantquads?
I do believe I have it.
@@NickBurnsFPV Thank you so much, I very appreciate your content and that you are so responsive and communicative with your subscribers. 😄
@@NickBurnsFPV so can you review it?
@@Nik_FPV621Yes, its coming likely in 10 days or two weeks.
I want to get one of these with the wasp link so bad!! I keep having financial issues that keep stopping me from being able to get one😩
Will you test betafpv pavo20 or geprc darkstar 20?
I have the pavo20 it will be a while yet. The darkstar 20 I don't have. Geprc did make contact but I don't think they got it sent before they went on holidy.
@@NickBurnsFPV I have only mobula8 and now geprc smart35 ... that pavo20 is interesting. But I dont have any trust for betafpv after my pavo pico aio dies after 2 months
If you don't have a 3D printer and can't afford 1 look into libraries. I was shocked that my local library had 3D printers lol.
Quite lovely this baby.
Must be different HV battery chemistries, but also have no idea what's going on if you HV charged both and got those results.
Those lipos are too heavy for this tiny whoop! 720 mah is probably right at heavy limit where performance is significantly hindered, but it will still fly ok. 850 mah most likely goes beyond heavy limit where flight time increases, so it gets less flight time because it's too damn heavy!
Remember, Flywoo ALWAYS recommends ridiculously heavy lipos to up predicted flight times. Dumb! 🤦
Especially on these ultra fragile 85mm whoops that are made specifically for slow cruising video taking. Fly these fast and watch them explode on crash! 🥴
Honestly, this size is too small and too fragile ... that's why it's just for slow cruising for smooth videos! Fly this freestyle and RIP IT, and watch it self destruct on crash! Especially with these stupidly heavy lipos! 💥 KABOOM! 💥
A 95mm, yes just 3/8" bigger, is sooooo much more versatile and durable! Way, WAY faster and you can freestyle it! But, people love to put the best gear on the smallest platform! That doesn't mean it's gonna be good... And especially durable...cuz it's NOT! It's the Smallest...and Most Fragile! That's it! 😮🤔
Also great video
Hey ive burnt one of my esc on my tinyhawk 2 and cant order a new one because i dont have any money left, I'm also doing my gcse so its really stressful, i love the hobby and hate the fact that I can't enjoy it could you spare a flight bord or a drone if you have one that you don't use or don't want please. Thanks
Ahh yes this is unreal!! Thanks for replying man!!! 🙏🏽🙏🏽🕺🏻
sure, my pleasure.
@@NickBurnsFPV I will have to wait for a sale loll and use my greasy cine whoop for the time being haha man it’s insane the jumps fpv has taken!! So happy a channel keeps up with the latest stuff 🙏🏽🕺🏻
@@skardy8_fpv They currently are running a 10%, but I do understand, our hobby budget has to come after our life expenses.
@@NickBurnsFPV yepp loll and works slow as heck for Me, so hopefully I can sell some old gear to get it! I’ll tag you when I get one
Who has tried rid modules? Do i need one on my disc golf discs?
Yes and kites and snowballs
@@NickBurnsFPV LOL, another tangentially related comment/question...has anyone out there tried putting an AIO FPV camera on a stunt kite, put on goggles and tried to fly while looking back at themselves? I think that would be a real trip!!! The flight time would be really impressive wit that as well!!! Perhaps I would need an RID module for that as well...dang it!!!!
@@Catiadr surely that has been at least tried, but did they record and post on youtube or elsewhere is another question
This save O3 on the buttom? How u can handle that?
How do you mean? It flies really well. I don’t understand how to handle that??
@@NickBurnsFPV I mean o3 in the buttom so risk, u now what I mean
@@sulkhanamami With micros at the 2inch prop size there isn't an opportunity to mount the O3 inside the body, so its either on top or the bottom. So far I haven't had any trouble with damage to the O3.
I have the gps on mine... gets blown out instantly by the o3 lol
I have seen this as well on an iflight O3 quad. I believe we have to try to move them further apart.
Come on Nick XM+ can’t be that bad. Before ELRS you used to fly XM+😂
It’s worse now that frsky has compatibility issue with the asst and access firmware
Product from flywoo i think quite expensive..😅
03 is exxxxxxpennnnnnsive
Plus, I think they have to do their own decasing. Pretty sure DJI doesn't even sell to distributors naked 03s.
That's why im still using analog..people say analog user is the true pilot..lol..🤭
@@yusjahatNo, just POOR PILOT!💸🤑 Slow to upgrade to biggest breakthrough in FPV History!
So, POOR & SLOW! 🤣👍
@@KOrnhOliO1 nahh..not like that..its just a hobbies when im free..i also have some comitment..better i spend it on my family..
i ve heard flywoo shipping is extremely slow . reports of some people waiting over 3 months before getting their order . if other companies would sell this id be all over it
I ordered mine Thursday night from getfpv and it's going to be delivered this Monday 2 day shipping very fast service
Anyone get gps working?
?...how many 'aremars' did you say?
i don't know that I did say "aremars". I don't know what that might be
@NickBurnsFPV LOL
You nailed all my questions Nick…. So the most fun are the flywoo and mobula 8 kinda what i was thinking but now you get to show us
Fantastic review
Thanks
Great to hear! Yes I like the flylens85 the most and it gets very good slow flight footage
I swear he's paid by the word.
Well done review, Nick! 😎🤘
Keep in mind guys... For manufacturers it's all about getting the best gear (DJI 03) on the smallest craft. That doesn't necessarily mean it's a great idea... All of these 85mm whoops are very fragile with the 03 camera sitting right out there waiting to be smashed! 😢
Did you know a 95mm whoop is ONLY 3/8" BIGGER? Yup, mm's confuse some. A whole 25mm = 1". So, the next size up is barely any bigger ... But, much more durable, and an unbelievably more capable flyer! Smallest, lightest is great, but it's at the sacrifice of strength and durability. Making ALL of these 85's fragile and made for cruising. You know why the manufacturers saying made for cruising? Because of you try to RIP IT, or freestyle it, and you aren't ultra skilled ... 💥KABOOM💥 I can see many, MANY pilots displeased with the "pile of parts" they are left with after crashing! And I don't think it has to be a very hard crash, either.
Fun fact: Did you know some much more durable 95mm whoops with fly on 3S & 4S? 😉👍
(I've used a tiny 450mah 3S and 4S!)
Which frame you recommend?
@@DeyRonUSA I don't think they make it any more, but the BetaFPV 95X V3 frame. It's a good design, but I'll admit, a lot of the reason I like it is because its only $15 retail (I got one on ebay, on sale, for $5 ! + $5 shipping).
I also think the GepRC frames are superb The Cinelog25 would be my choice. I haven't looked at what they call their latest CineWhoop series, so maybe its good too. Problem is, last time I looked at those that 25 frame was $32 ! Over double BetaFPV one. Other brands were even higher priced. 95X V3 frame is durable, light, and designed really well. Remember, it's a V3, so 3rd design. BetaFPV always takes 3 versions to get it right! Lol SERIOUSLY.
Best of luck! 😎🤘
@@DeyRonUSAbetafpv pavo 25
Yes, the as of late dumping on betafpv is nuts. They have pioneered a lot of cool new ideas, and with new comes learning and improvement. I have both frames sitting (95xv3 and pavo25) been contemplating a ultralight 25 mm cinewhoop using c135 since they only weigh 6grams each. If you can get a 25mm below 130 with battery (no external action cam) that may be a sweet spot...
@@DeyRonUSA you're wanting a build like troncat fpv for his real estate cinewhoop. 1303.5 motors are awesome. Unfortunatly hglrc seems to have discontinued them. If you find some, grab a few. Troncat went for 6s.
man I dont like all the guts seemingly sticking out the bottom where you land on landing are rough generally
Ivd watched this a few times now….. lol
Something specific your looking for? Or just enjoy the flights?
@@NickBurnsFPV enjoyment a and anticipation lol
Those purple GNB HV batteries aren't what they're advertised! I have several 4S "1100mah" HV GNB batteries and they are lighter and perform worse than a Tattu R-Line 850 or CNHL 850. My opinion is that they are a scam.
Its nice when someones iq is above 100 when reviewing technical flying electronics and are not all woke agenda with tattoos etc on face or goofy ass looking. Always enjoy your reviews sir. I ordered one of these yesterday as well as the foxwhoop 35 03 as well. week after buying the foxeer mega4 03 6s and iflight helion 10, which was a week after buying 3 racing offroad rc's at great deals on fb, which was a week after yeaaaaaaaa my hobby room i wish was 2000sq ft lol. over 150k in stuff now.
Hello
more C rating=more metal=more weight.
Whew! Such heavy lipos! Me, I'd be using much lighter lipos to significantly improve performance, agility, handling, and lessen the damage in a crash. I've found that Flywoo recommends some stupidly heavy lipos that are all about making their craft into a fly barge while giving it longer flight time. Barges fly like crap! And we all know "It's all about weight with whoops", so I'd fly this with a much lighter lipos. Fly Like a Butterfly, don't sting like a ... Barge! 🤷🤦
Because the whoop is sooooo much lighter it doesn't get that much less flight time per lipo! But, it flies sooooo much better and with as fragile as these 85mm whoops with 03 are, less damage in a crash is Just What I'm After! Switching lipos is really easy and fast. So more light lipos = more fun & less damage!
You guys use your heavy lipos and see how long these Barges Last! Not long, I'll bet! Many report busting up their Pavo Pico's! ... Soon after spending all that dough!😢
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40 sec into the video and I knew this is not for me. It's loud... super loud.
That o3 is so exposed.
Yes, they are on all micro cinewhoop, some worse than others