I think I have a theory on where did goku Got his heart virus from,after grandpa gohan died goku lived alone in the wilderness like a wild animal and ate anything Like Wolfs,Bugs anything he hunts down and it could be possible that by living like that or by eating an infected Animal could make goku get the heart virus and because of him being a saiyan the symptoms took years to take it’s affect and killing Goku.
i’ve seen this theory also and it’s a fair one as well, but i feel like a disease like that would be very easy for Bulma to make a cure for before goku dies, with my one that isn’t a issue
@@SacredSaiyan hmm…that is right,But everyone has his opinion and theories and Each one kind of make sense but The yardrat one just doesn’t make sense.
That actually adds up. I thought maybe it was linked to the Kaiocannon since that strained the body. But the ultra divine water was basically for Goku an extra zenkai in the end but his body could have still had the effects of it and every time he got stronger it slowly took over his body and Kaiocannon tearing him up from the inside and SSJ having that huge multiplier it could have sped it up
Does make a hell of a lot of sense. The Kai-Ou-Ken technique as you said creates a lot of strain. Plus if you look during the fights against Nappa and Vegeta, you can see a LOT of body heat coming off Goku. This means his heart is pumping blood at an extremely-fast rate. Faster than what even the Z-Fighters with immense training could handle. As you also said, as he had to use more multipliers, that would cause his heart to pump even more blood at yet a faster rate. Combine that with him using at a 20x factor against Frieza and his SSJ form, yeah, that finally made the poison start to do its job by the time the Android Saga starts.
@@NightSprinter stress does cause diseases to spread faster, but i believe, it is an actual disease, in the manga, they mention other people geting sick. apparently there is a real life disease, that acts almost identical to the heart virus called "myocarditis". but gokus use of the water and the kaioken, could indeed be the reason, why he was more vulnerable to the disease, weakening his heart muscle, so the virus was more lethal, as not everyone who gets infected actually dies from the disease. the z-fighters were likely all exposed, but were asymptomatic. piccolo advises yamcha and chichi to take the medicine as well, as they take care of goku. also if it was poison, the medicine should be taken as fast as possible, before it can permanently damage the body, but this medicine should be taken, once the symptoms start, so likely, goku was not infected when trunks arrived, otherwise, trunks would have told him to drink it immediately.
I REALLY like this idea of how Goku got a heart virus, it has a perfect in-universe explanation instead of being a fan speculation based on minimal evidence ☺
It would be a fun way to do it, but I think this is pretty explicitly disproven by the fact that it’s called a virus by Trunks and he does actually say there was an outbreak after Goku died. This could actually tie in well with the Yardrat theory since Goku could have been Patient Zero and accidentally spread it to others while it was dormant, though it could also have just been a novel virus from Earth that Goku was an unfortunate early victim of. Since everyone the other timeline’s Goku was close to was killed, it’s hard to say whether or not they had it dormant as well, and it’s probable that if any other Z-Fighters came down with it, the cure was already developed (or Bulma had analyzed the future medicine and developed it early).
the theory is nice, but the problem that happens is its stated the heart virus happens to more people, if i remember correctly the quote was "multiple cases of the virus happened shortly afterwards and it became rather common" though thats what i remember, its something future trunks said when talking to goku when giving him the medicine
@@SacredSaiyan unless the virus was just to secure victory He knew he couldnt make the androids too strong because he wouldnt be able to control them so it would make sense for him to make himself and 19 as strong as he could then use the virus to make goku weaker thus making it easier to kill him
I mean, just because you go to a place that has a virus, doesn't necessarily mean you automatically get infected. You don't just automatically catch a cold just because you visit a doctor and there's someone with a cold there. Sure, you could get infected, but you don't have to get infected just by being in the same place as the virus.
@@SacredSaiyan trunks warned them about the androids, which is why they trained more than they would have otherwise. so goku had (even) less interaction with other people, which could have changed the time of the infection. Also he was told, to take the medicine, "once he starts showing symptoms", which he did, as he only started showing symptoms, when they went to fight the androids, this makes sense for infections, as taking medicine, when you dont need it, can cause an immunity to the medicine AFAIK. also turning supersaiyan seemingly accelerates the progression of the disease. also, if it was poison lingering in gokus body, the cure should have been taken instantly, as soon as trunks arrived. apparently, in the manga, they mention other people catching the disease, even if we never get to see any of them, but thats more due to dragonball not caring to develop minor characters after Z started. Piccolo even advised Yamcha and Chichi to take the medicine as well, just in case they get infected. also, the symptoms of the heart virus match up with a real life disease called myocarditis, but we dont know, if this was intentional, or if toriyama just made up random symptoms, that just happens to match with a real disease.
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i'm not too familiar on autopsies being used to help find a cure for any given disease. but given that the cure came from the future, i mentally understood there may have been other victims until a cure was found. not necessarily an epidemic, as you said, but enough people suffering that research was done for a wide range of patients until it was finalized. at least in the real world, that's how it would've gone. but we remember Bulma is a super genius, so she likely could pull off something that amazing
In the manga the English dub it says this is your medicine it was an incredible disease in this time but in 20 years from now there will be a drug for it.
Honestly, the biggest issue with that theory is, you have to really stretch the suspension of disbelief to say that the poison remained in Goku's body, for around 30 years. In that time, literally every cell in his body would have been replaced, multiple times over. Without constant repeated exposure, its literally not possible that the poison would remain in his body, even for a fraction of that time. The far more likely scenario is that the virus was an Earth virus, not something super common, but also not something that is just a one time fluke. The thing about it is, it is mildly inconvenient at worst for humans (like the common cold.), but when reacting to Saiyan biology, it has deadly symptoms. This explains why only Goku got it (he wasn't the only one, its just that it was deadly for him due to his Saiyan biology.), why there was no cure (you don't have a cure for something as mild as a cold), and how a cure was able to be created after the fact (the virus would still be around, it just wouldn't be effecting humans on the level that it effected Goku, so they would be able to study it and create a cure for it).
respect your opinion 👍🏻 but dragon ball is a series where you need to greatly suspend your disbelief, aliens with changing hair colours fighting all the time 😂
@@SacredSaiyan I understand that, but its an ockham's Razor situation. Sure, you could suspend your disbelief to the extent of assuming that this poison/virus somehow lasted for literally decades in Goku's body (also, it is directly stated to be a virus, not a poison.). Or you could go with the much more simple theory that it was an Earth based virus that effects Saiyans in a much more dramatic and deadly way than it effects humans. Its far more simple, and it covers every issue that was brought up for all the other theories.
I think he got it from the Hospital he was in after the Saiyan Saga, he got early Covid. But on a serious note, it's probably from the environment he got from Yardrak(idk if that's how its spelled), like when colonization, a lot of ppl get sick/die from foreign factors.
This honestly makes sense (for the most part) since when you think about the yardrat theory, it really doesn't make sense since Vegeta never got the heart virus when he was there and if it was from yardrat anyone who spent a good amount of time there would get a similar virus
Wait a minute my boh got a new oc but i actually im going with the explanation of salad saiyan of him living in the wilderness with no one to take care of him bc grandpa gohan died by the oozaru so he eats animals that already have numerous diseases
yeah that’s a good explanation and it makes sense, i just think that would be easy for bulma to create medicine for fast enough so goku doesn’t die, with this explanation there is a reason she couldn’t
My question had always been, if the disease was contagious as Trunks had stated, then how come neither Gohan nor Chi Chi ever catch it when they were the closest ones to Goku, and it would have been unlikely that they had known about the virus in the future, yet we don't see Future Gohan or Future Chi Chi dying from such virus, so it really begs the question on how the heck was a cure even found, and then if you have to account for how the Androids had then started destroying the world, people were basically living in apocalyptic times with limited resources, so that is why that cure just doesn't make a lot of sense, or how even was Bulma able to make her Time Machine since even in Super where she didn't have the same limitations, she struggled a bit to get more of the same fuel source.
I heard from Salad Saiyan that Goku got it when he was a kid living in the woods cause in an environment like that wouldn't be safe for a kid to stay in. That's his theory and I think it kinda makes sense. But hearing yours also makes sense I guess
@@SacredSaiyanIt really doesn’t cause it’s stated in the Jaco manga that saiyans are immune to extinctions bombs that are made from the Galactic Patrol and one of these bombs can genocide a whole race.
I actually did believed it was something that occurred after Goku was revived during the Sayian saga (besides Yardrat as I always knew that Yardrat was innocent) because it didn’t seemed right that the virus went with him in the afterlife after Raditz.
@@SacredSaiyan …but then again, if all that is part of Goku went with him in the afterlife, even the bad things, then your explanation in the video is pretty much perfect.
Goku shared dirty steroid needles in the back alleys of Orange City. He fell on hard times and had to turn a trick or two to get by. But, lucky for Goku. Mr. SATAN came along and straightened him right out. Taught him about honor and hard work. Is there anything that man can't do?
When saiyans past their biological set limits their body gives them a final test , which I think is the heart virus or heart problems a biological near death experience to evolve thier bodies because they broke thier natural limits prime examples are ( vegeta heart problems on namek, gohan illness in time chamber and Pan fever in super) when this is happen and they past the test they rest for a long time, now that ultra divine water theory is good but no other saiyans never drank any, aslo the medicine that was made in trunks timeline is because of bulma who is a genius who properly used vegeta as test subject because he a full saiyan and properly unwilling told her that he took alien medicine on namek which for his heart as well
Honestly this is a good theory. But I feel like Goku just got the virus from the way he lived his life during his childhood after Grandpa Gohan died. He had to go through the wild to find food and not to mention I think theres a scene in the managa and anime where he saves a rat by protecting it in his mouth, so I could have been a simple heart virus with an already avaliable public cure which everyone probably didn't know it was too late since Goku was an alien and they couldn't have known everything about his biology. A lot of other people agree on this being the reason why he had it but your theory has some valid and solid evidence to it, so good theorizing.
@@SacredSaiyan I mean I really only believe in that theory because of the proof behind it. Not just because of other people believing it, it has good points and so does your what if too. Either explanation could be true but we don’t really know.
The Ultra Divine Water? I think that's plausible, but I don't think so. Besides Goku, Yamcha and Yajirobe also drank from the Ultra Divine Water. Unlike Goku, Yajirobe only takes a sip, so it is understandable he can't get the virus. But Yamcha did drink a full cup just like Goku and he didn't get the virus. An explanation can be made is that Goku's Saiyan DNA mixed with the UDW created the virus. But if that's the case then, Why Gohan and Trunks weren't infected by it? Being Half Saiyan is not a good rebuttal since many Earthlings died of the Heart Virus too. I think the Heart Virus was created by Gero in order to kill Goku if his androids failed in his quest for revenge. Dragon Ball Super: Super Hero, The Red Ribbon Army led by Magenta and Carmine had a front company named "Red Pharmaceuticals". They could have gotten the data from one of Gero's Hideouts and managed to produce a vaccine for the Heart Virus. I know Super created a lot of retcons, but I want to believe in the late Toriyama-Sensei's ideas he added in this sequel to Dragon Ball and Dragon Ball Z.
Yeah no I’ll stick with the second theory it just makes far more logical sense. Even trunks said the virus is something with a cure for it that is common in the future or at least medication they don’t make medicine for poison and they don’t confuse the two either.
I have small diffrent theory. I do agree it could be posion but I dont think it was the water. What we should also not forget is that Gokus apperance of the heart virus is diffrent in Trunks timelime. There Goku died because of the virus before the android attack. In the main timeline he got the virus durning the fight with 19. I think Goku was poisoned but maybe due to one of Geros spy robots In Trunks timeline here had time to create the virus send one of those robots out before the attack since he finished 17 and 18. With Goku gone the biggest threat wasnt anymore around. In the main timeline the plans changed because 18 & 17 were do rebellious so he had also create 19 and make himself into 20. So he couldnt create the posion and send out the spy robot in time and did it just before the attack thats why Gokus symptomes came later in the main timeline. In Trunks future they may than stumbled one the formula of the virus while searching for way to beat the androids.
that is a theory ive seen before but i just think if the virus was because of gero, he would of never created the androids in the first place since he wouldn't need them, he would just give it to goku and if he wants the other z fighters
@@SacredSaiyan True but we dont know, in case he created the poison, how long the it takes to create it and how difficult it is to get the supplies for creating it. He might just could created the poison once because of that. Other than that even if he killed Goku and the Z-Fighters he still wanted world domination and would had to battle basically every single army on the world. On top of that he also knew about frieza because of the spy robots so he knew that there were in outer space also threats for him. So the androids would still be needed.
I think its weird that people argue his life style as a kid when those kind of viruses should have killed him or at least inhibated his growth alot more before he became a healthy adult so i say its because frieza is a reptile from space with blood saiyan kind wouldve never had contact with because of the power gap between every saiyan and frieza until frieza fought goku and frieza had a high level of ki/chi enough to contend for a minute with super siayan goku and it started when goku bit friezas tail being strangled and goku came into cantact with something there that was normal and something friezas reptillian race became immune to over time but could jump across the mammal reptile barrier and evolve and since ki is an unknown factor and friezas was high it hit goku like a mac truck after laying dormant until he came back to earth.
because Korin said it himself, it can increase your power or it can literally kill you, like how it killed every person who drank it before goku, its called poison in dragon ball itself
I feel lile their could be alot of reasons for goku getting the heart virus like maybe him pushing his body with kioken mayne the acceleration forced his heart to much espacily in the sayain saga i mean his whole body also got shattered by great ape vegeta after forcing his body past its limit not only that the training he did even though his body wssnt even healed cuz he couldnt wait for the sensu beans
I have a simpler explanation Goku DID get the heart virus on earth however the technology at the time just simply wasn't enough to cure it And if bulma was able to figure out what caused that virus that means other people have also gotten it as we all know when goku dies he gets to keep his body in the after life but we cant confirm that for the future timeline since goku didnt die in battle You can say the same thing for "why didnt bulma make the time machine in time before future gohans death" cause she didn't have the technology
issue with that is, the db earth is far more technologically advanced than our world and bulma is bulma, she has all the resources in the world at this point so she could easily make a cure, she didnt make a time machine earlier because 1. she didnt immediately come to the idea of building a time machine and thinking its even possible 2. she no longer had the near infinite resources she had previously due to the androids doing there thing
@@SacredSaiyan heres the thing goku died from the heart virus very quick there was no way for bulma to prepare the cure therefore the technology was limited And if goku was the only 1 that had the virus that means bulma would of have to run some test on his dead body which I doubt that's smth she would do and like I said we cant confirm if goku kept his body when he died Also bulma had already figured out time travel by the time all the z fighters were dead and had the time machine already some what built when future gohan started to train trunks but lacking the sorce for fuel and other stuff therefore she didn't have the technology either
Bro u must got back and watch episode 122 mystery revealed because trunks clearly states it was a out breakand how they should be hearing about it soon , and how they made a cure and it’s a sitch in there time now my boy u gotta really pay attention
@@SacredSaiyan gave you the episode and all my friend dragon ball z mysteries revealed the very first moment trunk met Goku you need listen clearly to what he stated
One tiny problem with your theory. We can build up resistance to poisons in real life. If it hadn't affected Goku for years his body should have built up a resistance to it.
@@SacredSaiyansadly that's not true as even then shenron or porunga would be able to tell it was an unnatural death plus the fact that Goku was stated to be given a body in otherworld not keep his existing body but yeah it's a good theory
@@SacredSaiyan this thumbnail is pretty much exactly how saiyan Scholar was doing it. Red circle pointing at something with red arrow to match and words on the screen everything pretty much.
@@SaiyanPodcast oh 😂 well yeah it is similar to his, i watched a video about thumbnails and they said about the arrow and circle to create intrigue, he does the same thing, wont be using it often my though 😂
I think the other reason cause in OG dragon ball goku was all alone for more than 1 month so he could’ve got something like a animal disease. Edit: sorry someone did it
makes also no sense, he died against raditz and was revived 1 year later so i don't think the effects carried over to death and then to a revived body.
There is no real reason Goku caught the virus. He caught it because Toriyama needed a reason for the future timeline to not have Goku. I guess if you asked Toriyama he would have said that he caught it like how any other person would catch it…
@@SacredSaiyan Kaioken increased blood pressure, popping out veins and swelling the user's muscle mass. This information alone is because Goku pushed himself to kaioken x4 and pushed his body more, if the kaioken came at a cost then that cost could have been the heart virus
@@Oshbutgamer I dont agree, because I think the evidence is against it. HOWEVER, I really like this theory because it would be really good storytelling.
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Goku got the heart virus from a dying planet namek. He breathed in too much sulfur dioxide.
Have you ever thought about what was the source of the androids 17, 18 and 16 power that made them so strong but undetectable to the Z fighters?
@@shadowdragonlord2295 bruh they are androids and 16 can sense ki.
I think I have a theory on where did goku Got his heart virus from,after grandpa gohan died goku lived alone in the wilderness like a wild animal and ate anything Like Wolfs,Bugs anything he hunts down and it could be possible that by living like that or by eating an infected Animal could make goku get the heart virus and because of him being a saiyan the symptoms took years to take it’s affect and killing Goku.
Oh but Vegeta eats alien insect so why is his body does effect on him and I don't think these diabetes will kill a Saiyan
i’ve seen this theory also and it’s a fair one as well, but i feel like a disease like that would be very easy for Bulma to make a cure for before goku dies, with my one that isn’t a issue
@@SacredSaiyan hmm…that is right,But everyone has his opinion and theories and Each one kind of make sense but The yardrat one just doesn’t make sense.
@@SacredSaiyan nope. it couldve killed really fast+ characters in db go really long times without seeing each other
@@SacredSaiyan also posion =/= virus. a poison wouldnt give you a virus, it would poison you
That actually adds up. I thought maybe it was linked to the Kaiocannon since that strained the body. But the ultra divine water was basically for Goku an extra zenkai in the end but his body could have still had the effects of it and every time he got stronger it slowly took over his body and Kaiocannon tearing him up from the inside and SSJ having that huge multiplier it could have sped it up
interesting thought
Does make a hell of a lot of sense. The Kai-Ou-Ken technique as you said creates a lot of strain. Plus if you look during the fights against Nappa and Vegeta, you can see a LOT of body heat coming off Goku. This means his heart is pumping blood at an extremely-fast rate. Faster than what even the Z-Fighters with immense training could handle. As you also said, as he had to use more multipliers, that would cause his heart to pump even more blood at yet a faster rate. Combine that with him using at a 20x factor against Frieza and his SSJ form, yeah, that finally made the poison start to do its job by the time the Android Saga starts.
@@NightSprinter stress does cause diseases to spread faster, but i believe, it is an actual disease, in the manga, they mention other people geting sick. apparently there is a real life disease, that acts almost identical to the heart virus called "myocarditis". but gokus use of the water and the kaioken, could indeed be the reason, why he was more vulnerable to the disease, weakening his heart muscle, so the virus was more lethal, as not everyone who gets infected actually dies from the disease. the z-fighters were likely all exposed, but were asymptomatic. piccolo advises yamcha and chichi to take the medicine as well, as they take care of goku. also if it was poison, the medicine should be taken as fast as possible, before it can permanently damage the body, but this medicine should be taken, once the symptoms start, so likely, goku was not infected when trunks arrived, otherwise, trunks would have told him to drink it immediately.
I REALLY like this idea of how Goku got a heart virus, it has a perfect in-universe explanation instead of being a fan speculation based on minimal evidence ☺
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Trunks states that a whole lot of other people died from it.
dont remember that being said
@@SacredSaiyan it’s on the wiki
@@devinknox7558 wiki isn’t always accurate
@@SacredSaiyan it is about this, but it might be a dubism
@@SacredSaiyanI remember it being said pretty well.
It would be a fun way to do it, but I think this is pretty explicitly disproven by the fact that it’s called a virus by Trunks and he does actually say there was an outbreak after Goku died. This could actually tie in well with the Yardrat theory since Goku could have been Patient Zero and accidentally spread it to others while it was dormant, though it could also have just been a novel virus from Earth that Goku was an unfortunate early victim of. Since everyone the other timeline’s Goku was close to was killed, it’s hard to say whether or not they had it dormant as well, and it’s probable that if any other Z-Fighters came down with it, the cure was already developed (or Bulma had analyzed the future medicine and developed it early).
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I've been going with the idea that he got it from biting Frieza's tail. But being serious, this was a pretty interesting theory. Well done.
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the theory is nice, but the problem that happens is its stated the heart virus happens to more people, if i remember correctly the quote was "multiple cases of the virus happened shortly afterwards and it became rather common" though thats what i remember, its something future trunks said when talking to goku when giving him the medicine
i don’t recall that but a couple people have mentioned it so it may be the case
Never even thought of that, I quite like that idea.
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I mean The virus taking effect directly after gero appears and conveniently takes goku out mid battle ?💀 thats not coincidence
if the heart virus was because of gero, he would of never made the androids to kill him since he would know the virus would.
@@SacredSaiyan unless the virus was just to secure victory He knew he couldnt make the androids too strong because he wouldnt be able to control them so it would make sense for him to make himself and 19 as strong as he could then use the virus to make goku weaker thus making it easier to kill him
theres also the time goku carried a rat in his mouth to save it while escaping a dangerous place
@@TheAutisticArtistic lol
also vegeta in the moro arc went to yardrat so cant be that
exactly!
I mean, just because you go to a place that has a virus, doesn't necessarily mean you automatically get infected.
You don't just automatically catch a cold just because you visit a doctor and there's someone with a cold there.
Sure, you could get infected, but you don't have to get infected just by being in the same place as the virus.
Well. I guess we'll find out in however many years!
I always felt he got it from the filler episode were he caught it from the old, sick, and coughing driving instructor.
if its a filler episode then it can't effect cannon
One problem why did Goku die later than future goku
i could be wrong but i think i recall he did have a bit of the medicine but not used it all, otherwise it was never explained why
@@SacredSaiyan trunks warned them about the androids, which is why they trained more than they would have otherwise. so goku had (even) less interaction with other people, which could have changed the time of the infection. Also he was told, to take the medicine, "once he starts showing symptoms", which he did, as he only started showing symptoms, when they went to fight the androids, this makes sense for infections, as taking medicine, when you dont need it, can cause an immunity to the medicine AFAIK. also turning supersaiyan seemingly accelerates the progression of the disease. also, if it was poison lingering in gokus body, the cure should have been taken instantly, as soon as trunks arrived. apparently, in the manga, they mention other people catching the disease, even if we never get to see any of them, but thats more due to dragonball not caring to develop minor characters after Z started. Piccolo even advised Yamcha and Chichi to take the medicine as well, just in case they get infected. also, the symptoms of the heart virus match up with a real life disease called myocarditis, but we dont know, if this was intentional, or if toriyama just made up random symptoms, that just happens to match with a real disease.
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"because your mother likes roses."
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wait am i a dad
@@SacredSaiyan that's not what it means-
Great work dude awsome video
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New diseases pop up all the time in fact this heart virus is very similar to one of the diseases we have now.
true but we only saw goku with it
i'm not too familiar on autopsies being used to help find a cure for any given disease. but given that the cure came from the future, i mentally understood there may have been other victims until a cure was found. not necessarily an epidemic, as you said, but enough people suffering that research was done for a wide range of patients until it was finalized. at least in the real world, that's how it would've gone. but we remember Bulma is a super genius, so she likely could pull off something that amazing
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In the manga the English dub it says this is your medicine it was an incredible disease in this time but in 20 years from now there will be a drug for it.
i don’t recall that tbh
Bulma is the one that made the medicine..
@@trackstxarnope that’s headcanon
@@SacredSaiyanHe’s not wrong, it’s in the manga, Trunks says that talking to Goku.
Honestly, the biggest issue with that theory is, you have to really stretch the suspension of disbelief to say that the poison remained in Goku's body, for around 30 years. In that time, literally every cell in his body would have been replaced, multiple times over. Without constant repeated exposure, its literally not possible that the poison would remain in his body, even for a fraction of that time.
The far more likely scenario is that the virus was an Earth virus, not something super common, but also not something that is just a one time fluke. The thing about it is, it is mildly inconvenient at worst for humans (like the common cold.), but when reacting to Saiyan biology, it has deadly symptoms. This explains why only Goku got it (he wasn't the only one, its just that it was deadly for him due to his Saiyan biology.), why there was no cure (you don't have a cure for something as mild as a cold), and how a cure was able to be created after the fact (the virus would still be around, it just wouldn't be effecting humans on the level that it effected Goku, so they would be able to study it and create a cure for it).
respect your opinion 👍🏻 but dragon ball is a series where you need to greatly suspend your disbelief, aliens with changing hair colours fighting all the time 😂
@@SacredSaiyan I understand that, but its an ockham's Razor situation. Sure, you could suspend your disbelief to the extent of assuming that this poison/virus somehow lasted for literally decades in Goku's body (also, it is directly stated to be a virus, not a poison.). Or you could go with the much more simple theory that it was an Earth based virus that effects Saiyans in a much more dramatic and deadly way than it effects humans. Its far more simple, and it covers every issue that was brought up for all the other theories.
This would be the real reason! It isn't cliche, well thought out and the best one I've heard of!
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I think he got it from the Hospital he was in after the Saiyan Saga, he got early Covid.
But on a serious note, it's probably from the environment he got from Yardrak(idk if that's how its spelled), like when colonization, a lot of ppl get sick/die from foreign factors.
remember in super vegeta goes to yardrat, doesnt get the virus
This honestly makes sense (for the most part) since when you think about the yardrat theory, it really doesn't make sense since Vegeta never got the heart virus when he was there and if it was from yardrat anyone who spent a good amount of time there would get a similar virus
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Heart virus hè Whel this is getting a little interesting
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Dbz aliens be like:we will train you,but in exchange we will give you space aids
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Wait a minute my boh got a new oc but i actually im going with the explanation of salad saiyan of him living in the wilderness with no one to take care of him bc grandpa gohan died by the oozaru so he eats animals that already have numerous diseases
yeah that’s a good explanation and it makes sense, i just think that would be easy for bulma to create medicine for fast enough so goku doesn’t die, with this explanation there is a reason she couldn’t
To be real though. I always felt toryama did that so he could introduce Vegeta as a super Saiyan. Cause they needed him to be for the cell plot.
obviously its because toriyama wanted it but i doubt it was for that reason, they can still make vegeta a super saiyan with goku there
My question had always been, if the disease was contagious as Trunks had stated, then how come neither Gohan nor Chi Chi ever catch it when they were the closest ones to Goku, and it would have been unlikely that they had known about the virus in the future, yet we don't see Future Gohan or Future Chi Chi dying from such virus, so it really begs the question on how the heck was a cure even found, and then if you have to account for how the Androids had then started destroying the world, people were basically living in apocalyptic times with limited resources, so that is why that cure just doesn't make a lot of sense, or how even was Bulma able to make her Time Machine since even in Super where she didn't have the same limitations, she struggled a bit to get more of the same fuel source.
who knows
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thank you bro! haven’t started working on it yet but it’s definitely something that’ll happen
@@SacredSaiyan Epic!!
Soo under rated
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@@Teo_undertale subscribing before even watching the video is crazy work but thank you 😂
I heard from Salad Saiyan that Goku got it when he was a kid living in the woods cause in an environment like that wouldn't be safe for a kid to stay in. That's his theory and I think it kinda makes sense.
But hearing yours also makes sense I guess
yes i’ve heard that theory from many as well and also makes sense, i just think bulma could easily create a cure for that in time to save goku
@@SacredSaiyanIt really doesn’t cause it’s stated in the Jaco manga that saiyans are immune to extinctions bombs that are made from the Galactic Patrol and one of these bombs can genocide a whole race.
Goku had corona
wild 😂
Please make a what if where future zamasu used the super dragon balls to swap bodies with the vegeta of his timeline instead of becoming immortal.
hmm
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I actually did believed it was something that occurred after Goku was revived during the Sayian saga (besides Yardrat as I always knew that Yardrat was innocent) because it didn’t seemed right that the virus went with him in the afterlife after Raditz.
@@chaosfantasy0064 fair enough
@@SacredSaiyan …but then again, if all that is part of Goku went with him in the afterlife, even the bad things, then your explanation in the video is pretty much perfect.
Goku shared dirty steroid needles in the back alleys of Orange City. He fell on hard times and had to turn a trick or two to get by.
But, lucky for Goku. Mr. SATAN came along and straightened him right out. Taught him about honor and hard work. Is there anything that man can't do?
wild lol
When saiyans past their biological set limits their body gives them a final test , which I think is the heart virus or heart problems a biological near death experience to evolve thier bodies because they broke thier natural limits prime examples are ( vegeta heart problems on namek, gohan illness in time chamber and Pan fever in super) when this is happen and they past the test they rest for a long time, now that ultra divine water theory is good but no other saiyans never drank any, aslo the medicine that was made in trunks timeline is because of bulma who is a genius who properly used vegeta as test subject because he a full saiyan and properly unwilling told her that he took alien medicine on namek which for his heart as well
i can’t tell if you agree with me or not 😂
Honestly this is a good theory. But I feel like Goku just got the virus from the way he lived his life during his childhood after Grandpa Gohan died. He had to go through the wild to find food and not to mention I think theres a scene in the managa and anime where he saves a rat by protecting it in his mouth, so I could have been a simple heart virus with an already avaliable public cure which everyone probably didn't know it was too late since Goku was an alien and they couldn't have known everything about his biology. A lot of other people agree on this being the reason why he had it but your theory has some valid and solid evidence to it, so good theorizing.
i respect your opinion and have also heard that theory, but just because a lot of people believe a theory, doesn’t make it true
@@SacredSaiyan I mean I really only believe in that theory because of the proof behind it. Not just because of other people believing it, it has good points and so does your what if too. Either explanation could be true but we don’t really know.
I'm pretty sure that trunks told Goku that there was a outbreak of the heart virus.
i don’t recall that tbh
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@@SacredSaiyan Im gonna crash out
The Ultra Divine Water? I think that's plausible, but I don't think so. Besides Goku, Yamcha and Yajirobe also drank from the Ultra Divine Water. Unlike Goku, Yajirobe only takes a sip, so it is understandable he can't get the virus. But Yamcha did drink a full cup just like Goku and he didn't get the virus. An explanation can be made is that Goku's Saiyan DNA mixed with the UDW created the virus. But if that's the case then, Why Gohan and Trunks weren't infected by it? Being Half Saiyan is not a good rebuttal since many Earthlings died of the Heart Virus too. I think the Heart Virus was created by Gero in order to kill Goku if his androids failed in his quest for revenge. Dragon Ball Super: Super Hero, The Red Ribbon Army led by Magenta and Carmine had a front company named "Red Pharmaceuticals". They could have gotten the data from one of Gero's Hideouts and managed to produce a vaccine for the Heart Virus. I know Super created a lot of retcons, but I want to believe in the late Toriyama-Sensei's ideas he added in this sequel to Dragon Ball and Dragon Ball Z.
i respect your opinion 👍🏻
Yeah no I’ll stick with the second theory it just makes far more logical sense. Even trunks said the virus is something with a cure for it that is common in the future or at least medication they don’t make medicine for poison and they don’t confuse the two either.
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we all know it was the cholesterol from Gokus bacon binders
never too much bacon
My theory was that Ginyu did it. We don't know where his soul has been he is filthy
lol
I have small diffrent theory. I do agree it could be posion but I dont think it was the water. What we should also not forget is that Gokus apperance of the heart virus is diffrent in Trunks timelime. There Goku died because of the virus before the android attack. In the main timeline he got the virus durning the fight with 19. I think Goku was poisoned but maybe due to one of Geros spy robots In Trunks timeline here had time to create the virus send one of those robots out before the attack since he finished 17 and 18. With Goku gone the biggest threat wasnt anymore around. In the main timeline the plans changed because 18 & 17 were do rebellious so he had also create 19 and make himself into 20. So he couldnt create the posion and send out the spy robot in time and did it just before the attack thats why Gokus symptomes came later in the main timeline. In Trunks future they may than stumbled one the formula of the virus while searching for way to beat the androids.
that is a theory ive seen before but i just think if the virus was because of gero, he would of never created the androids in the first place since he wouldn't need them, he would just give it to goku and if he wants the other z fighters
@@SacredSaiyan True but we dont know, in case he created the poison, how long the it takes to create it and how difficult it is to get the supplies for creating it. He might just could created the poison once because of that. Other than that even if he killed Goku and the Z-Fighters he still wanted world domination and would had to battle basically every single army on the world. On top of that he also knew about frieza because of the spy robots so he knew that there were in outer space also threats for him. So the androids would still be needed.
Ok, I'm commenting before watching: I think Trunks brough it from the future.
that wouldn’t work since the future goku who died to the heart virus would of never gotten it in the first place
Yaa Goku munching on some wild dogs as a kid ya that's healthy for a kid
it’s fineee he’s goku
@@SacredSaiyanwhat if gohan was reborn with all his memories and powers 👍👍👍
Could you do a betrayed Goku series where he becomes op from training by himself
goku already becomes op in a lot of my series 😂
@@SacredSaiyan sorry I'm just looking for a new betrayed
i havent commented or watched ur vids in a year or 2 damn i remember when u were around 15k
fair play lol
I think its weird that people argue his life style as a kid when those kind of viruses should have killed him or at least inhibated his growth alot more before he became a healthy adult so i say its because frieza is a reptile from space with blood saiyan kind wouldve never had contact with because of the power gap between every saiyan and frieza until frieza fought goku and frieza had a high level of ki/chi enough to contend for a minute with super siayan goku and it started when goku bit friezas tail being strangled and goku came into cantact with something there that was normal and something friezas reptillian race became immune to over time but could jump across the mammal reptile barrier and evolve and since ki is an unknown factor and friezas was high it hit goku like a mac truck after laying dormant until he came back to earth.
@@andythegoatman694 respect your opinion 👍🏻
Thats a nice theory. Side question, why is the ultra divine water called poison? I thought poison meant harmful? This makes goku stronger.
because Korin said it himself, it can increase your power or it can literally kill you, like how it killed every person who drank it before goku, its called poison in dragon ball itself
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@@thestrongestsorceror nah, i’d be lazy 😮💨
@@SacredSaiyan Why sacred... WHY?!
@@thestrongestsorceror i’ll post more lol, just not sure when
@@SacredSaiyan Aight bet, promise me rn
@@thestrongestsorceror nah, i’d not
Yeah your theory make sense bro
thanks!
I feel lile their could be alot of reasons for goku getting the heart virus like maybe him pushing his body with kioken mayne the acceleration forced his heart to much espacily in the sayain saga i mean his whole body also got shattered by great ape vegeta after forcing his body past its limit not only that the training he did even though his body wssnt even healed cuz he couldnt wait for the sensu beans
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Toriyama had to nerf Goku for bit
lol
I have a simpler explanation
Goku DID get the heart virus on earth however the technology at the time just simply wasn't enough to cure it
And if bulma was able to figure out what caused that virus that means other people have also gotten it as we all know when goku dies he gets to keep his body in the after life but we cant confirm that for the future timeline since goku didnt die in battle
You can say the same thing for "why didnt bulma make the time machine in time before future gohans death" cause she didn't have the technology
issue with that is, the db earth is far more technologically advanced than our world and bulma is bulma, she has all the resources in the world at this point so she could easily make a cure, she didnt make a time machine earlier because 1. she didnt immediately come to the idea of building a time machine and thinking its even possible 2. she no longer had the near infinite resources she had previously due to the androids doing there thing
@@SacredSaiyan heres the thing goku died from the heart virus very quick there was no way for bulma to prepare the cure therefore the technology was limited
And if goku was the only 1 that had the virus that means bulma would of have to run some test on his dead body which I doubt that's smth she would do and like I said we cant confirm if goku kept his body when he died
Also bulma had already figured out time travel by the time all the z fighters were dead and had the time machine already some what built when future gohan started to train trunks but lacking the sorce for fuel and other stuff therefore she didn't have the technology either
It's real funny how goku was fine until he ran into Dr gero/Android 20 the miraculously got the heart virus 🤔
if it was because of gero, he would of never needed to create the androids, also future goku didnt encounter gero
It’s been months since he posted
i posted a week ago as well 😂
Bro u must got back and watch episode 122 mystery revealed because trunks clearly states it was a out breakand how they should be hearing about it soon , and how they made a cure and it’s a sitch in there time now my boy u gotta really pay attention
what dub is that? also is it stated in the manga?
@@SacredSaiyan gave you the episode and all my friend dragon ball z mysteries revealed the very first moment trunk met Goku you need listen clearly to what he stated
@@SacredSaiyan 2:45
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Why did Goku get the heart virus?
Plot.
real
One tiny problem with your theory. We can build up resistance to poisons in real life. If it hadn't affected Goku for years his body should have built up a resistance to it.
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Interesting theory. Although in the series it's stated that Goku died of natural causes. A poison would have still been able to revive him.
fair but because the poison took place over such a long period of time, it became like a disease which is a natural cause
@@SacredSaiyansadly that's not true as even then shenron or porunga would be able to tell it was an unnatural death plus the fact that Goku was stated to be given a body in otherworld not keep his existing body but yeah it's a good theory
I actually agree 👍💯
nice!
were you paying homage with the thumbnail or
paying homage to who?
@@SacredSaiyan this thumbnail is pretty much exactly how saiyan Scholar was doing it.
Red circle pointing at something with red arrow to match and words on the screen everything pretty much.
@@SaiyanPodcast oh 😂 well yeah it is similar to his, i watched a video about thumbnails and they said about the arrow and circle to create intrigue, he does the same thing, wont be using it often my though 😂
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I will
@@SacredSaiyan ty
I think the other reason cause in OG dragon ball goku was all alone for more than 1 month so he could’ve got something like a animal disease.
Edit: sorry someone did it
why you apologising for lol
Scared can you please finish what if goku was in Naruto
we shall see
I can't be from yardrat because Vegeta never got it when he went there
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sacred when you gon play dbog again its been like 2 years
@@Celestial-z3j i been playing it again recently
@@SacredSaiyan when you gonna make a live stream
makes also no sense, he died against raditz and was revived 1 year later so i don't think the effects carried over to death and then to a revived body.
i talked about that in the video
It was all the bacon he ate
can never be too much bacon lol
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Oh hell naa you must have bumped your head as a kid just like goku
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No. Yardrat makes way more sense (in this universe). Goku being the only one, would just make Goku patient zero.
vegeta also went to yardrat in super, didn’t get the virus.
Yo sacred next upload pls
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Good point, but Goku in JJK pt 2 when?
not sure haven’t started working on it yet
My theory is that the mf dont wash his hands
it is goku tbf 😂
Ok sounds good but I think he got the virus from biting on frieza tail or from eat too much red meat
lol
@@SacredSaiyan yes frieza is a weird alien and goku stated freiza smelled bad lol also goku diet was terrible😂
The real reason is because storytelling to make it more dramatic.
also a reason lol
U might be right
thank you
@@SacredSaiyan ur welcome
That's not a bad idea
thank you
Not a bad theory by the way
appreciate it!
Poisons don't create viruses
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There is no real reason Goku caught the virus. He caught it because Toriyama needed a reason for the future timeline to not have Goku. I guess if you asked Toriyama he would have said that he caught it like how any other person would catch it…
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I think when he had the Oisin it
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goku has heart virus from biting frieza cus frieza blood is poison maybe
dont think so but respect your opinion
I will go crazy if you reply to this comment, "him".
That's your name isn't it? it's not "sacred saiyan" you're HIM.
“him”
@@SacredSaiyan im late but somehow you replied in 1 hour .....
And then he passed it on to Itachi 😑
double it and give it to the next person ah
makes sense
thanks!
Too much bacon
there can never be too much bacon
I think it’s because of kaioken
@@Oshbutgamer why’s that?
@@SacredSaiyan
Kaioken increased blood pressure, popping out veins and swelling the user's muscle mass.
This information alone is because Goku pushed himself to kaioken x4 and pushed his body more, if the kaioken came at a cost then that cost could have been the heart virus
@@Oshbutgamer I dont agree, because I think the evidence is against it. HOWEVER, I really like this theory because it would be really good storytelling.
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