ALL 3 of Seiko's NEW GMT's! (SPB385, SPB381, SPB383)
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Check out the meaning of the "" Signed Seiko Crown here: th-cam.com/video/MEj1vliXOZA/w-d-xo.html
Seiko needs to put a pause on new watches so I can catch up.
They should put a pause on all new watches and up their QC game to justify their insane prices
@@mariog7213 Agreed. I think most of the qc complaints can be overblown but it's not an outright fiction, Seiko isn't up to the standard of Japanese rivals Citizen and Casio, or even plenty of Microbrands and Chinese homage brands.
@@mariog7213 new spb line has less noticable qc issues
They also need to sign their crowns. I just dont get it man. These are such gorgeous pieces and all they need to do to really make these unrivaled is just add a quick adjust clasp, signed crown, and replace the pins and collars woth screws. Can u imagine this line with that? The complete unrefuted champ. I would honestly buy every single one from the entire line.
Maybe a price pause is necessary.
I recently got the green one and it's an absolute homerun. Black is a close second but I've wanted a green diver for some time and this one is stunning.
Agree. Just got it. Heard complains about alignment but I don’t see it
I've got the green also and put a Crafter Blue green rubber strap on it. Looks and feels great!
*CORRECTION: I believe I said 50% thinner bezel. I could not confirm and forgot to edit it out. But like the SLA055 the bezel looks thinner then the standard model. If I had to guess I'd say maybe 30% thinner" Sorry guys, but just know its a trimmer looking bezel.
Regardless it’s still a noticeable improvement
Extremely satisfied with my glacier blue limited Edition, the light blue texture dial stands out with everything I wear. I always get compliments, everywhere I wear it to.
One of my absolute favourites.. As is the new SPB439J1 with the white glacier dial.
Agree with the date at 3 but the new ISO6425 regulations don't agree. No more half indices allowed with the ISO regulations so you will see the newer models having a date at 4:30 if the brand is going for ISO standards.
Bought the Hulk. The colouring depending on the light varies from a shimmering green to a deep black. I just love how the light plays with the dial.
SPB383 FTW!!! Thanks for the video. I’m definitely getting the black one.
Just purchased the black one last Friday on the release date in Japan. I have a green Willard so I picked the black. This is my second Seiko. I usually only purchased Luxury watches until now. I am amazed by the quality of the GMT. It feels great to wear and I love the dial with all information and the date at 4h30. The bracelet is really good and I picked this watch as it has a ceramic bezel. The GMT is interesting but a bit hard to read. But I care more for the 200m/ceramic and overall look and feel than the GMT time. Your video was great. Thank you.
Did you get your hands on the limited edition SPB385? What are your thoughts on that compared to the black one?
@@lockhandel the limited edition was already sold out when I went to Ginza store at 12h00 on June 9th (launching date) They had received only 3 pieces. So no, I did not see it. But I was not too disappointed as I intended to buy the black model.
@@lockhandel I just saw the limited edition in Ginza few days ago and I was not impressed. I chose the black model as I had none so far and also because I found it to be with more character.
Hehe, your video came out while I was still trying to upload mine. They landed yesterday in Hong Kong. Anyway, you do a much better job at reviewing Seikos. Will you keep one for yourself?
As much as I like it, no. I really only wear small watches now. I'm in that phase I guess. 36-38mm.
I don't want one... I want all threeee! 😭😭😭😭😭😭
5:56 my choice? The light Blue one. 😊
i was about to say where is the third color and then realized its the black one lol
NINJA ATTACK!!!
Bought the green one last week... its fantastic!!!!
Good choice!
watching a close up review of my dream watch (SPB381) in 4k is crazy, thank you for this detailed review!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Another great video! Loved seeing all three and thank you for showing them all together!
Hope all is well on your end and please do reach out anytime! Would love to link up and get you a watch to see in person!
Hope you have a great weekend! All the best, Ben
Very good video as always. I purchased the 383. That black dial is a thing of beauty. To me, one of the best looking Seiko divers one can buy. My favorite case is the MM style, followed by the 62Mas. I agree with all your points, and as a personal owner, I have 3 concerns that could've made this watch great, but also understandably would've probably pushed it above the $1500 price tag.
1. The dial and crown. The dial could lose a line or two of text and the crown for $1500 needs to be signed. Come on Seiko, Zelos does lumed crowns on watches for $500.00. A good move would be to take the X from the dial and use that on the crown. That way we have less dial text (Also remove the 3 days, definitely not needed), we have a signed crown. The X will still identify the Prospex line, and it is a good differentiator from other models.
2. The bracelet. At this point, I don't even get my hopes up for a good Seiko bracelet, even at over 1K. With folks like Monta, about the same price point as this line watch, they are giving great bracelet's. I don't know why Seiko continues to provide sub-par offerings? Again, even Zelos at sub $500 is offering superior bracelets and clasps. When I purchase a Seiko or Grand Seiko watch, I automatically also purchase an aftermarket strap or bracelet. I include it in the watch budget. It's like muscle memory, I do it out of habit.
3. The movement. Like their bracelets, Seiko doesn't seem to bother to dial in the movement. Unless it is GS, I don't even expect nowhere close to COSC specs. Luckily I don't buy my mechanicals for accuracy.
I'm still a Seikopath and luckily their designs are still beautiful and the fit is on point. If either of those slips, Seiko may have lost a loyal buyer.
Thanks, and great comment! And I totally get the muscle memory I just bought a Seiko and I'm already looking for straps. LOL
Wow ur suggestions are so thoughtful and would definitely improve the dial exponentially.. Which after market bracelet you bought for this watch?? Can u share the link
I’m good with the date position. Doesn’t mess with the symmetry also being colour matched with the dial. I’m going for the green and I agree with you that it flips to black. I love it
I tried the green dial version, and the details are astonishing. I was pleasantly surprised by how it wears, appearing both beefy and small on my 6.25" wrist despite the 48mm lug-to-lug. One would hardly tell it's a 42mm watch without measuring it
Date at 3 is just plain lazy design and ruined the dial symmetry.
This week I got the SPB381 (green) and it looks just amazing, thanks to Kavar fast and secure delivery. About this precious watch Finally a Seiko with a thinner bezel I wish they can also make it smaller than the case. This Seiko shines from every corner, the GMT function is practically a decoration in this days, it's not intrusive at all, almost like it's not there. Definitely a piece to keep in the collection. Thanks E&W amazing and detailed review, please keep more coming and thanks you for making my purchase experience so smooth with Kavar.
Thanks for watching and hope you enjoy your new timepiece!
Really like these new cases. Beautiful dials. Will go very nicely with my SBDX017. I like the thinner case on these to be a little different. Beautiful finishing. I just hope the movement is reasonably reliable/accurate because none of us care for a 3 day power reserve if it can’t keep time.
Ocean blue is coming to my wrist on this Christmas 2023 love it ❣️
Don’t know if I can get past the “Automatic 3 days”….is this the first time Seiko has done something like this?
Picked up a green one last Monday, love it
Can’t decide to the black or green
Beautiful divers but seiko pricing getting quite steep.
Agreed
seiko is so stingy and cheap, you have to spend at least 4k to get a signed crown ... like WTF
Not at all, I have a Seiko sharp edged pressage that costs about 700/1000 USD and it has a signed crown. I just don't mind and don't get it this obsession with signed crowns you guys have. It's not like this is a luxury watch that costs 20k usd.
@@Lucmercurius the diving watches seem to be a different story
I am happy without signed crown.
I'd go for the black or green version. The watch looks great and I would love to trade in my mm200 to get one of these...
I wish they would make a lower cost travelling GMT. question anyone know the lowest cost travelling GMT with screw down crown made by Seiko?
You’re asking for a lot for lower cost. Check out the Seiko 5 GMT or the Prospex Solar Quarts GMT
Love these. Hope they release some different textured dials. Would love to see the SPB265 dial (horizontal wave) transposed onto other models.
I'm sure we will see more colors soon
me too.
I ordered mine same day they came pre-ordering. I bought MM300 on black in january, but still I ordered this also black. It's just classic. I absolutely love green dials, I have green sumo but I also choose black anyway, it's just calling me every morning
I hate the cheap pin and collar bracelet on my Seiko! Like my Rolex, it should be simple screw so that anyone could adjust it with a small screwdriver. With this price range forget it!
I bought the 383, as that color way is classic.
I really have no practical use for a GMT, but these look so good it might get me to buy one.
This with 38-40mm diameter, 44-46mm lug to lug, 12mm thickness at max and a centered crown....
love all dimension of this model, I'll pick the green one.
Have Seiko heard about Screws?? What about Micro adjustments clasps, tools free? Come on
Finally ceramic bezel!
That is a big + for me and the reason why I purchased it
Limited edition of 4000 units😮. That doesn’t sound very limited to me 🤔.
there was a seiko 5 limited to 11,000 units and it was so hard to get. Sold out fast and people still email me today about it. So for seiko if it is HOT then it is KINDA limited.
For the date, I’d want it at 6 for symmetry.
My only gripe is that I wish it were a “true” GMT (travelers GMT). I would pretty much throw my wallet at Seiko if that were the case.
Never really digging the 4:30 date window in all seiko. I can live with their 430 crown but not the date window.
Great video, as usual.
I just ordered the black SPB383 MM200 GMT to join my SLA047 MM300. I agree with you 100% on the beauty of these cases, with the MM300 being my absolute favorite dive watch, ever, by anyone.
How difference between SBEJ009 (Made in Japan) and SPB381 (Sold in WW), Quality and manufacture location?
Thanks!
I asked a retailer in Japan, and he said they are the same thing, and both are made in Japan. But please keep doing your research, because I want to have more sources.
if the strip and number use colour dark green instead of white .... superb!
I wish brands wouldn't put so much writing on the dial...
Informative video! I do agree with you, there is much non-useful text on that dial... bummer
I agree the date at 4 position is a deal breaker for me. The writing on the dial is also a negative.
I was waiting to hear the green bezel but we got the blue one instead. *sigh*
watch looks like the SLA057 and SLA055. love to see them up the finishing on their premium prospex watches 🔥🔥
spot on!
Very astute observation. The SLA055 is a frickin work of art.
@@lockhandel here's to hoping they bring even more colorways to this lineup
Are the dimensions exactly like the SLA055? I am curious because I want a metal bracelet for my SLA055
I have a seiko 5 gmt watch and I don't understand why seiko don't sign the crown on the watch
Man at first I was sold but the cons were a deal breaker. Below average lum, etc.
I love Seiko but if you think I'm paying £1400 for a Seiko you're nuts
Seiko has upped their game in the last 4-5 years. Everything is expensive. For $1300, one can go for some microbrand with a Sellita SW200, but in my honest opinion, I cannot find even a single model which can compete with the impressive case and dial designs of Seiko. The Seiko Marinemaster case design is one of the BEST designs for a diver in the world. It is just so pleasing to look at. I think that these GMTs at $1500 are very reasonably priced. (You can wait for 3 months, and get them for ~$12000 at your local AD.)
@@lockhandel right. it is sturdy and solid with its design. none of the watches are designed like this. if you buy another Swiss or other diver watch, the design is more or less the same. no personality. seiko are unique in its design..
385 looks so nice but it's already sold out in JP.
Totally agreed with the over-cluttering dial, no one would give a damn about "AUTOMATIC 3 DAYS" 🤣
The 385 is sold out in Japan!!!????
Nobody gives a damn about ‘superlative chronometer’….
Am I the only one who is bothered by the crown and date not being aligned? Do I have to go with the crown tilted or with the date at 4:30, but both misaligned? Sorry if I ruined it for someone else
SPB381J1 all Beautiful wathes!!
It looks it amazing, whichever colour ❤
I liked you do the accuracy test. That give us a good idea how good the movement is
It gives you a good idea of how good the movement of ONE watch is. Seiko makes tons of these watches, and the 6r35 was very hit or miss. A sample size of one is nothing to go on.
@@justmeeagainn The initial reports which I have received from sellers in Japan is that the 6R54 movements have much better quality control than the other 6R movements like the 6R35 and the 6R15.
Got mine today, this watch is aaaaweeesomeeee🎉😂
Man, these look like winners. The green and black look incredible. Initially, my pick would have been the black, but that green looks incredible too.
ya all 3 look good!
Really liking this one for the price, definitely on my list now, the green version.
It's the black for me, definitely!
I have an MM200 and the new Seiko 5 GMT. This looks nice but hard to justify for me.
@@rayhann8626 like what?
@@rayhann8626 you must be joking. What mechanical GMT do they have that is better quality and better price?
@@rayhann8626 not asking for your opinion of GMTs, but thanks. I’ve owned all three brands. Citizen makes primarily quartz watches and the finishing is just average. Orient is a budget brand and it shows in their watches. Completely fine if that’s what you like but there is no way it’s better quality at half the price. That’s like saying “affordable luxury.” Doesn’t exist.
These are very nice looking indeed. I don't think u mentioned it, but do any of them include a rubber strap also along with the bracelet? I don't think so, but I think you showed them all on a rubber strap option, also.
You got some good numbers on the timegrapher for at least one of the ones you measured. I'm still get queezy nervous making a decision to get any Seiko with a 6R based movement. It's can be hit or miss, and my experiences have been 0/2 out of the box. I'd hate to be disappointed again and feel the need to swap out the movement for a 4R34 instead.
None of these models come with a rubber strap. Only the limited editions comes with an additional nato strap.
if it means anything I also checked the green one. On the wrist performance on the green should be about -3s a day. And I put it on a tropic myself. They do not come with rubber. Because I do not have permission to size the new bracelets as I do not own them.
@@EscapementWatch I got the new 39mm King Seiko with the new 6R55 couple of weeks back and it has been running +4 seconds out the box and it has been very consistent to date. Hopefully Seiko has improved the movement.
No rubber straps provided. But I did try my captain Willard black rubber on this GMT model and it looks really great. 20mm straps are needed.
Nice to see you here @khronokraze!! After your recommendation, I went to Spencer Klein channel, and looked at the 6R movements in detail. They indeed have a lubrication problem. But I think that Seiko has fixed that quality control problem with the 6R54 movements.
Black one looks sleek.
so they basically created a budget platona and a sub hulk
Date needs to be at 3. I don’t dive so don’t need the watch ISO rated.
i just picked up the 385 limited, gorgeous piece imo
Gmt diving watch, just in case you swim across another timezone when diving, you can adjust to the new timezone.
Exactly my thoughts!
42mm is way too big for the average person (non American people).
Not this one. Wears really small.
Im a fan of 430 date personally
Great vid Falling Titan. Just love this watch in every respect. Def a winner.
Much appreciated!
seiko needs to SSSSSSSSSSSSSSTTTTTTTTTTTTOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPP with these date window positions
People complain when it’s at 3 too coz the Lume was compromised
Seiko makes some beautiful watches.
It's time to say thank you for this sensational video and also the many other videos, all of which I have already watched several times. I watched this video alone so many times to bridge the waiting time for this watch that I almost have the text memorized 😉The SPB383J1 arrived yesterday and although I already own a few MM200s, the GMT is a wonderful watch. Just as comfortable as all MM200 but visually cannot be compared. Thank you again for the wonderful videos and many greetings from Germany
I just wish they can enlarge the dial a wee bit more and reduce the size of the bezel. The overall size is just right but the dial is a tad too small in relation to it's overall diameter. Having said that I'm sure many will love to own one. Most impressively, there is a quick set date change function. Other far more expensive watches are unable to incorporate this technology/complication in their watch
The whole reason why I love the Seiko Marinemaster is that they have a small dial in comparison to the whole size of the case. I have always found it to be sexy in a way. One of my grail watches, the SLA021, also has a very small dial.
Is this case the same as SLA055/057/077/079 in terms of dimensions? Can i use bracelet from SLA on this SPB381/383/385???
It may fit I have never tried it but to answer your question the case is not the same. Lug to lug is different by 0.7mm according to seiko not my measurements.
Thank you a lot. Waiting for your review in SLA079! @@EscapementWatch
Ceramic bezel again. Good god, they are making these shiny enough to appeal to the average magpie. Circus attractions. Yuck. I'll take a matte sapphire bezel like in my Baltic Aquascaphe or an old fashioned Aluminium bezel like in my SPB317 all day any day.
I cannot express in words how ugly I think shiny ceramic bezels are. When I'm buying a mechanical watch, I'm buying an anachronism, and I don't want something that won't develop wabi-sabi. It's funny you mention Rolex, because they are indeed approaching the ugliness as a modern Rolex.
So when you ask me which colour I'll pick up: I'll steer clear of these releases. Wouldn't touch them with a ten foot pole and it's all down to the bezel.
seiko movement was not as accurate as you reviewed here in my experience
U bought the cheap one. That's why
How can I get a discount code from the Kavar Jewellers? Will it ship to US?
Seiko16
Oh please seiko dont do this to me.
Thank you for the excellent review. About 3 minutes in, you're wearing a black Tropic. Could you please tell us the brand and what your favorite tropic straps are? Thank you.
This one is from Nivada Grenchen tropic strap. I think once or twice a week people ask about this strap. I use it in all my videos where I can't size the bracelet. It is fkm rubber and once you get used to it is very comfy. It has quick release spring bars as well.
@@EscapementWatch Awesome. I love Tropic straps and am always on the hunt for a good one. Thank you.
How much money?
Aric Throughway
Damn, what the hell? These are amazing!!!! I'M GETTING A GREEN ONE!!!!
Finally! Thanks
Why no more of your normal intro??! I liked those. Especially the voice skits with the wife lol
hahah thanks! There was one actually for the the 38mm seiko but the sound got messed up so it was scrapped. But just had our second kid and the wife's extra busy. The intros will come back eventually
@@EscapementWatch Congrats! was in same shoes with 2nd one almost 2 years ago.
Thanks bro! I do miss sleeping but its worth it.
Above my pay grade (just got the 5 Sports GMT), but, my, these look lovely. Talk about a GMT bumper-crop, and that's just from Seiko!
You must be on a very low pay grade then because I don't reckon 1400 to 1600 quid is that much for a watch in 2023 mate.
@essexnto All about priorities as well. Nottoway mention careful perusing of specs for one's own needs/desires. (I've had higher-end wrist-wear in the past from other makes.) In the end, you go with what works for you.
@@essexnto What a stupid comment lol. $1500 for a purely luxury purchase (anything non-essential is a luxury) which does the same thing you can do on your phone for nothing, is expensive for any normal wage earner. Of course if watches are your obsession, you can justify it, but most people can't, even if they like watches.
@keynesianeconomics4113 mate, you can't even get your currencies right. $1500 is actually less than 1200 quid so please come back to me when you're able to tell the difference between the US Dollar and the Pound Sterling.
@@essexnto $1500 is the United States MSRP for this watch. I don't care about the made up numbers you rattled off.
Maximilian Row
Nice watch but this movement shows very low amplitude which is concerning.
Pretty much nailed it but why stop at signing the crown? The details matter.
Why GMT... splendid watches but 😢 GMT... come on maaaaaaan
super nice! thanks for review!
Thanks for watching!
Selling price in US$1200 for 200m diver watches Seiko Prospex green/black dial, I'm acceptable since have Presage GMT black dial & ceramic blue dial Sumo both are great, I hoped that the authorised dealer will have special discount for Both 😅
shouldn't be an issue. You can probably get 10-25% off
Typical 6R inaccuracy 😂😂😂
Have you watched the video? Seemed to be quite accurate...
The three days makes the watch look better yes spot on it’s beautiful
Bezel action on the Hulk seems loose and very easy to turn??
Looks fabulous. Tragic they are de-luming divers...(why??) -3 sec sounds great. Is this movement usually good? Did you check all 3?
green one was doing similar. Did not have time to check the black. First time checking the 6R54. But the 6R35's were very inconsistent and not very good. These could be the same but only time will tell.
Bezel aligns properly? No seiko dna there