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Frauds and p*dos getting screwed over? Thats karma baby.
Yeah, hard to feel sorry for the guy when you find out he's just a sicko.
My main thought when watching this ‘Someone should make this into a musical’
Would be a great ‘Producers’ type show
And that's on being a theatre kid
I was thinking the exact same thing!
It would be such a good movie!
On it.
Maybe they'll turn this drama into a musical. Scammed: The Story of Rebecca on Broadway: The Musical
I like the sound of that!
Who should write it, like the music, book etc., it honestly sounds like something Dave Malloy would write
@@owendy274 honestly I’d listen to anything Dave writes no matter what it is, but yes he would
@@wuraolaolagunju hey! Are you a Nigerian? 👀
@@oluwatomilolaadeniran6012 British Nigerian, yes!😊
The one good thing sia did for Maddie Ziegler is stop her from getting on a plane with Harvey Weinstein.
Props for blocking out Armie Hammer's face with the word Trash. Because that's exactly what he is.
☺️☺️☺️
Wait, can you tell me what he did??? I saw him in "The basis of sex" and loved him, but like what's his deal?? lmao
@@ashleysigurdson6982 he branded his ex
@@Sprinkle_sprankle98 Holy shit wtf
@@ashleysigurdson6982 that and he's been accused of assault and abuse from multiple women at this point.
The way I gasped when you revealed that it was the publicist who sent the emails
i literally burst out laughing i was NOT expecting that
THE SCANDAL- THE TWIST
me too! I was kinda expecting for the person to be a journalist that was secretly investigating this whole fraud or maybe a familiar of him that didnt want him to lose his money or I was even rooting on Ben or Louise to have a character grow and try to help him without having to actually tell him the truth,it really surprise that Mark ended up being the "hero" of the story .
"Fully sing through musicals don't do well with American Audience's"
Hamilton: Am I a joke to you?
True but Hamilton is a pretty rare case. Most of the most popular Broadway shows aren’t sung through.
@@RollerCoasterFan-fq4jf also the music is different. Hamilton is very modern. With Rebecca the music might well come off as old fashioned on Broadway It's more Webber than anything else.
phantom, the longest running show on bway: 👁👄👁
Don't forget Hadestown!
@@mar-rv2qb yeah...but Phantom really isn't a sung through musical.
The dramatic way you said 'Sarah Finklestein' literally made me gasp! Like 'Oh my god not Sarah Finklestein!'
It still boggles my mind that they could get away with this for so long!
crazy isn’t it!!
I don't remember this episode of Smash.
literally what i was thinking, it’s giving season 1 of smash with them struggling to get investors 😭
"Why do these people like suing so much?" Welcome to America, Amy
I HIGHLY recommend checking out the German production of Rebecca. It’s a beautiful show and you can find a full subtitled show on TH-cam. German language theater deserves so much more love.
YES
I love Rebecca, the music ist great and it was one of my first musicals.
Rebecca is great! It's actually in my top three German musicals (well technically austrian too...), beat by Tanz der Vampire (we're just not gonna talk about what broadway did to that one) and Elisabeth
I'm just glad we still have the German and it wasn't completely lost.
There are a couple full show recordings, but I think this one is the best quality 😊 th-cam.com/video/cYkT1Rh7Zvo/w-d-xo.html
I've never seen the German version of the musical, but I did see the Hungarian version with my favourite Hungarian musical actors. I loved the character of Mrs. Danvers in live, as the actress playing her has such a pressure in her voice and in her presence, that with her first lines (in the song when the newlyweds arrive to Manderley), she smashed everybody in their seats. I literally forgot (or was too scared) to breathe for a good half minute! And she can keep this pressuring up 'till the end. (it comes through on videos as well if you watch the lives with Janza Kata) And it was only the begining, she built up all the pressure to top it with the song "Rebecca", that I was shaking when I've gone to the café on the break.
Ben Sprecher sounds like that guy that would totally believe the email telling him a long lost relative had died and he’d now inherited a few million pounds, if he’d be so kind to forward his bank account details, thank you very much.
Imagine being so dedicated to musical theatre you bet your house on it , rich people are mental
Hey Amy! I know this isn't quite a scandal, but your video on the Tony nominations this year inspired me to write an article for my school's entertainment magazine about the Lightning Thief and ageism and classism within Broadway It definitely feels like shows that are more directed towards younger or less formal audiences are looked down upon by the industry. As soon as you brought up how the Lightning Thief got no nominations, I thought of a few shows that had similar things happen to them. Gen Z is known as the activist generation, and I know that entertainment isn't as serious as all the other issues that we fight for, but I think that we can definitely fight with a similar spirit to defend our favorite shows, and that's what I wrote the article about!
oh that sounds amazing!! I bet it was an awesome article!
@@AmyLovatt1 Thank you! Writing it definitely got me fired up. As soon as Broadway reopens, I'm definitely going to be there to support my favorite shows.
I‘d love to read that article if you feel comfortable sharing it!😊
@@charlietheis4048 I would love to share it! The only issue is that the mag hasn't been published yet, but as soon as it is, I will come back here and share my article here!
@@jamiehood850 Just commenting so I can read the article when you link it
Did a quick Google search and found that the cast was supposed to include Sierra Boggess and Hugh Panaro??? Like, they are such amazing actors and I love both of their work so much and I feel so bad for how they just got strung along throughout this whole shitshow
this piece of information made me so unnecessarily sad 😭
I'm from Germany and Rebecca is a gorgeous show!
It is! I'm from Finland and I have never studied German but I love to sing along to the songs 😁
It’s my all time favourite musical - I was learning German when I first heard it and I’ve been spellbound ever since by Pia as Mrs Danvers!
I’m from the US but I love the German production of Rebecca. It’s so fucking amazing and I will sell my soul to see it live one day 🥰
@@rhianpembridge543 Rebecca is so good! Pia is absolutely breathtaking as Mrs Danvers!
Seen the show both in Vienna and in Stuttgart.
Boring as shit, apart from Mrs. Danvers's songs.
I am a great fan of Pia, but Susan's voice suited the rôle more.
ok all of this is crazy, but when you said the email warnings were from the publicist i gasped out loud 😂
Same
Gasped out loud, but the real hero of the story.
lol austrian musicals and broadway REALLY don't go together don't they.... (please cover dance of the vampires, this was the biggest flop on broadway because they changed the insanely successful austrian production (tanz der vampire) a lot)
Oooh that sounds interesting!! I’ll look into it for sure!!
@@AmyLovatt1 That would be great!
Wasn't the original Phantom in that on Broadway, i heard he helped desingned his own coustume to the point in which he looked like "fat chicken" not to metion other terrible Broadway Vampire musivals such as Lestat and Dracula
@@owendy274 yes, exactly. As far as I know Michael Crawford kept messing with the production and they just...let him so he wouldn't leave. They thought it needed to be funnier and adjust the show to American audiences but uuuh yeah that went horribly because the show IS funny with sone serious moments, so it's well balanced imo
Okay buy please don’t judge these musicals based on their American adaptations and failures. Austrian/German theater can be every bit as good as Broadway/West End theater and they have some of my favorite performers ever.
How’ve I never heard of this until now???
honestly it’s a wild ride!
“Ben hun. Use your noggin!”
I feel so sorry for the cast, crew, and everyone involved in the show. Imaging the people having their broadway debuts they’d be so excited then to find out that the show has been canceled even before rehearsals start.
And in April of 2017, they lost the rights for the musical.
I'm probably really dumb and you've had you hair cut like that for a while, but I really like it.
aww thank you!
here's my pitch for Rebecca: The Musical On Broadway: The Musical
im sorry if some things don't add up english wise, English is not my first language and im really only doing this for fun at 3 am
the opening song is Ben and louise seeing Rebecca in Austria, kind of has Changing Lives from The Prom vibes. They're really enthusiastic about it and can't wait to bring it to Broadway.
I need there to be a song about marks safari. this song would have It Roars from Mean Girls vibes
There would be a very dramatic song about the malaria guy dying and a big part of the investments being gone. the malaria guy could be like the Wizard in the flashbacks in Wicked, by that i mean hes kind of mysterious and you cant really see his face (bc he doesn't exist) this is also the only investor actually played by someone (the other two are only referred to)
the ny times guy realises something dodgy is going on. the audience is made to believe he is Bethany Walsh and Sarah Finkelstein (bc that's what i was expecting lol)
a song about Bethany Walshs emails called Bethany Walsh
the act one finale is a song about the email from sarah Finkelstein and Larry decides to pull out his investments. this song would kind of sound like Monster by Dodie or Hurricane from Hamilton, called Sarah Finkelstein
act two opening song is ben sprecher crying in front of McDonald's in the rain
then we move to Bens meeting with the fbi and he realises mark cant be trusted. (possibly a song like Boys Like You by Dodie???)
then a very touching scene where mark T tells Ben he doesn't want to be his publicist anymore. ben sings a song similar to the last part of Words Fail from Dear Evan Hansen in which he wonders if bringing Rebecca to Broadway was a good idea after all.
a sequence like in DEH with voice over news anchors telling the story of marks fake investors, mark being arrested, basically everything that had happened up until that point.
then a song like The Reynolds Pamphlet from Hamilton in which Mark T confesses he is Bethany Walsh and Sarah Finkelstein. [a long, dramatic black out]
A flashback sequence from mark Ts pov from the last week of September with reprises from Bethany Walsh and Sarah Finkelstein. a song which dives into mark Ts motivations and moral dilemmas.
the show ends with a Who Lives Who Dies Who Tells Your Story from Hamilton type song which explains where some of the main characters are now and what happened to them after all this happened.
im sorry if this was very long i originally started this with like 2 song ideas but as I was writing more and more came to my mind. please comment on this if you have any other ideas. id love to see what others think about this
Omg this is brilliant! 😂 please write this as a musical 😂
Act two opening song is Ben Spracker crying in front of mc Donald’s in the rain : I literary died
Can we also talk about the rumour that Sierra Boggess aperently quit because James Barbour yelled at her durring rehearsals? Because I kept hearing thats why she quit.
Sierra said that it was because it had got cancelled
Edit: and she also said that Fantine on the west end was given to her as a consolation prize
Me before hearing the story: it can’t possibly be as bad as smash/bombshell
me now: 👁👄👁
like they’re not even comparable like what was up with these people ???
wdym about smash/bombshell?
@@drew-ih7bx yeah same, give us the tea
@@drew-ih7bx I think it's just joke on how much drama there is within the show, not problems with its production, though I may be wrong
@@taramaduro6988 it’s the tv show smash which is about a creative team producing a musical called bombshell, and the person above was saying how they were thinking it can’t be as dramatic as smash BUT IT TURNED out even more dramatic hakdhdkd anyway
This needs to be a *movie* ! And then we deserve a Rebecca The Musical produced by people who actually deserve the success - I want to see that staircase burn! Also, I love how every time I watch an Amy Lovatt video the only ads I get are for BroadwayHD
They made a movie about the novel "Rebecca" in 1940 by Alfred Hitchcock that won 2 Academy awards best cinematography and best picture.
I saw Rebecca two years ago in an outdoor theatre and it was magical! It rained a little bit through the show which made it a lot more mystical! I would do a lot to see that production again
oh wow, that sounds amazing!!
Me too! Tecklenburg?
@@Fiyero90 Tecklenburg-Gang!
Ah yes Tecklenburg productions are magical and the cast was absolutely incredible. We were robbed of last year’s production with an equally amazing cast!
@@TheSopranorose hopefully this year 🙏🏻
Omg thank you so much for summarizing 😭 I've known fragments of this story for years but never understood the gist of it.
now, to be fair to the guy who used his home as collateral: Andy Webber also put a second mortgage on his home to put on Cats, and that show did VERY well, it kick-started the Mega Musical... He did NOT however put 2 other ppl's homes in danger, lmao.
I feel like the English translations of European shows (I.E. Romeo et Juliette, Notre Dame, and Mozart!) tend to be not so great, and at that point, I feel like it’s better to bring the original production to the U.S./U.K. for shorter runs.
The English translation of RetJ is so painfully bad
@@meg4322 the only good parts of it are the Verona reprise, and "I can't do this"
But Les Mis is a European show translated into English. It was originally written in French.
this is like one of those sarah z videos where she talks about things i never knew - like my immortal or something - and i get extremely involved in the drama i have literally no interest about 😂 amazing, i love it.
omg the arnie hammer as trash!!! 😂 love it
he really is
20 seconds in and I've already liked because this musical is so beautiful and it sucks that the english-speaking world does't get to enjoy it! Hopefully one day the curse will break!
I’d love to see it some day!!
Do you know if it's still in theaters somewhere? I'm German and I'm really curious now
@@lilaboxx It was supposed to play in June 2020 in Madgeburg actually, but it was cancelled due to Covid. And the last production before that was in 2017. So I'd say it's definitely still being played :)
@@user-ts6yl8kg3k i'll definitely keep my eyes open and listen to the cast album in the meantime 😄
@@AmyLovatt1 Honestly, Pia Douwes has a couple dutch language releases on youtube & spotify from this I think (oof, been a while since I fell down that rabbit hole...) but the general idea comes through even without translations... might be worth a shot?
I'm still overly hopeful that someone will FINALLY bring this to Broadway. The German production is just beyond amazing
It's like the Fyre Festival of theatre
Ok now I need to take a listen the the music from the show! hahah! Thanks for the morning dose of backstage musical theater drama
In terms of West End scandals, now that the court case is finished do you think you'll do a video on the Seyi Omooba/The Colour Purple controversy?
what happened?
@@paulao.9070 she made homophobic comments a while ago that were unearthed, she got fired cos she said she still stood by them and it’s literally a show about a lesbian and she was PLAYING a lesbian. She tried to sue for religious discrimination, and said that she “didn’t know” celie was a lesbian...despite having been in the show previously as a different character. Absolute shitshow
Yeeeeeessssss! I have been waiting for you to cover Rebecca with the scandals series!
Please do more of these videos! This was so interesting. I was telling my dad about this and we were just laughing the whole time!
I must've actively watched this video about five times and then every other night to fall asleep, just playing on low in the background. Thanks for this wild ride, Amy! The twist still gets me every time lol
Massive fan of yours and these are my favourite! It’s so interesting and you tell it so so well. Thank you 😍
I love your scandal videos because you can tell that you do a ton of research on the subjects! Love your content!!
This IS a great story, Amy, you should do a podcast!
Omggggg I (a german person) used to be OBSESSED with this musical when I was younger (before I got into international musical theatre) because it's one of the few actually good shows that have over here and I was always like "okay but this deserves way more recognition" and since I read about how it was supposed to be on Broadway but then it didn't because of "financial issues", I've always wondered WHAT THE FUCK HAPPENED, so I'm really excited for this video 😍
There actually are alot more good german / austrian musicals! I love Mozart! and Matterhorn. Maybe also because my favourite actors are in those XD Plus, there also are alot of nice german versions of other musicals. Legally Blonde I actually prefer over the english version, Romeo & Juliet is ok and my fave is Artus Excalibur :D
@@Shyress yaaas I love Mozart! (I even have the dvd with oedo guipers and mark seibert 👀) I personally have to disagree with you when it comes to the german legally blonde tho, like it's pretty good, but I still prefer the og, but to each their own i guess ^^
I'm here for the Elisabeth 👀one of my absolute favourites in any language.
My friend really likes the german original cast of Starlight Express!
There are actually a lot of good german/ austrian gems. Primarily in the dramatic genre😂 There are a lot of thosd
Let’s face it, Mark Hotton totally went on that safari
Oh, absolutely 😂
I am SO ready for this video, you have no idea. My auntie saw the original Viennese production back in the day and swears it's the best musical she's ever seen (she's seen like 3 haha)
Your vids feel like we’re gossiping over tea and I absolutely love it
Amy! Your hair! It looks lovely! I just now realises that you may have cut it earlier, but it looks so great 😍
Okay but thank you for showing pictures of the people every time you said their names. It actually really helped me follow the story lmao. I always get confused in videos like this because I forget who is who.
You worked so hard on this! Such a complex story - you researched it really well. Great video! 🥰
Hi! Love your videos, Amy. They always in a weird way, inspire me to express myself.
oh yay! thank you!
Rebecca has been one of my favourite shows for years now, I'm so glad you're spreading the word about it (even if it is about the fraud scandal and not the show itself), the non-English versions have had the most eye-catching staging and give a brilliant view of what might have been. I really hope that one day it makes it to the West End or Broadway for us all to enjoy
I saw Rebecca the musical 2012 in Stuttgart and even though I have seen many musicals since, Rebecca remains my favorite! Not in terms of music or story but just the overall presentation and theatricality blew me away. I still get chills thinking about it!
Oh my god; this is insanity!! Like wtf?
Amy I couldn’t have done this, pretty sure I’d just throw up. kudos for doing this video
This. is. amazing!!! 👏👏👏
The drama, the mystery, the twist at the end. This story has it all!!
Just... **chef's kiss** 👌
Omg I was NOT expecting it to be the publicist!! Great vid Amy! Love ya!! :D
That was a better twist than any thriller
@@sweetForgiveness I know right
Holy crap... this was JUICY!!!!!! Thank you for sharing, Amy...
This was so interesting and completely mind blowing! Tbh I had never heard anything about it before and this vid was quite different from what I usually watch. So entertaining as always Amy
I love these videos! And the way you tell them is brilliant! Give me more Broadway controversies and scams! I need more 😂
This story is crazier than The Producers, despite the fact that The Producers is, you know, fictional. Lol
German and Austrian musicals have generally so much potential. The Vienna version of "Rebecca" was gorgeous. (The Hungarian production is even better for my taste.) "Elisabeth" could be an international hit. Even something like "Mozart!" may be a great project with right approach. Such a pity the failing of "TDV" practically closed this window for European productions.
Rookie mistake- Musicals with stairs never end well!
Hello Dolly?
Thank you for making this! I absolutely love the German original and some of the Hungarian version of it and it is just so sad that not more people know of it
Loving Amy’s style today! Looking gorgeousss💕💕
That twist at the end (no spoilers) oooh girl I audibly gasped. Honestly this tea is hot so thank you for this excellent video. You've clearly done some great research.
Wow. I knew there was some drama regarding financing that killed the Broadway version of Rebecca, but I didn't expect it to be THIS bad. Great video!
Also, I'm starting to think there's some kind of curse on Michael Kunze musicals coming to Broadway. I mean, you have the absolute mess that was Dance of the Vampires *and* this? It's kind of sad, really, because the English-speaking world is really missing out on some great musicals.
I love you and this video so much but oh my god this video really reminded me of the show Drunk History! You’re hilarious :)
This is just insane. I saw the show in Germany and all I can say that it's spectacular. It was by far my favourite show to see live in the theater. I wish everyone could enjoy it, it is really amazing, this was the show that finally convinced me to go for a stage/theater career
Love the video as always..but I just wanna say I LOVE THE SHIRT xx
This is wild! Why didn’t they just use Curve in Leicester to try the stairs stuff? I’ve seen them lift an entire house from under the stage during the show before
I love these videos so much and I love you Amy your such an inspiration xx
thank you 🥰🥺
That was fascinating! I'd love to hear other big scandals like this.
crazy isn’t it!!! so glad you enjoyed the video!
Quality video as always also appreciate the research is this fair play
the Hungarian adaption of Rebecca is one of my favorite musicals, and when i heard about all this drama with the English version I thought it would make a great TH-cam video. very interesting thank u!
Oh my god ???? I love Rebecca so much (though I don't really speak german), it's such a gorgeous show with many great songs and it's been adapted in several countries as well (it's rather popular in South Korea for example). And I knew about a failed production on Broadway but I never knew the story behind the failed attempt. Oh my god ???? Still can't believe it, it's so mindblowing.
You are such a great story teller!
This could literally be turned into a Netflix mini-series or movie, not even a documentary. This feels like the most dramatic drama to ever drama. Your telling of it made it even more fun!
Yay I was waiting for another Broadway scandal video
Then find out it is 27 minutes yay
Omg your shirt is amazing!
I really love your hair in this vid. It's really cool
My jaw DROPPED when you said the twist... like it physically dropped! I'm shocked and I now don't know what to do with myself!
Well done you!Fascinating insight to the machinations of pulling on a show or in this case not!Glad you mentioned about the dramas at the Shaftesbury Theatre☔.I wonder why they didn't just forget about the staircase element and redesign it for that particular theatre rather than forget London and "give their regards to Broadway.🗽"Perhaps it was a case of not having backers for London as well?🤔It reminded me of the documentary Fyre in you can fool some of the people some of the time........Have you ever watched Wait in the Wings on TH-cam as they also give a interesting look at Broadway hits & misses.
This was a bloody rollercoaster! Told in the perfect order as well
its a shame all this happened cause Rebecca is one HELL of a show (im part austrian) i would have been interested to see how it was done on broadway or westend.
3:33 actually it isn't! there's a lot of singing going on obvs, but there are also a lot of scenes with only talking ^^ (I'm sorry if I come of as rude or something by correcting you, that is not what I was trying to do at all 🙈)
Hah, I remember reading a Vanity Fair article about this years ago and thinking it was hella wild, thanks for reminding me of it!
FYI-Marc Thibodeau was eventually ordered to pay Sprecher & Forlenza $90K, which is insane. Having worked with both Marc & Ben in the past, I can attest to the fact that Marc knows his stuff, is a total professional & is generally a good dude. Ol’ Benny Boy on the other hand was wholly unpleasant & you could literally smell the desperation on him. He made used car salesmen look respectable & honest. Great vid Amy!
oh my goodness that’s ridiculous!! so interesting to hear your experience with them! thank you so much for watching and sharing 🥰
I had tickets!! I was so disappointed when it got cancelled, and was then FASCINATED when all the lies came out. It’s expensive to mount a show, sometimes we don’t realize just how difficult it is to get all that backing, a producer’s job is NOT easy.
THANK GOODNESS I HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR ANOTHER INSTALLMENT OF THEATRE TEA WITH AMY
More videos like this pls Amy! X
The twists, turns and big reveals. That was so good 😂
Song ideas for this as an epic musical:
Opening number sung by the performers: “The dilemma of Rebecca”
Ben’s dramatic solo: “which Mark do i trust? I surely won’t go bust”
(Upbeat gospel style number) Sarah and Bethany duet: “Larry we’ve got no doubt, baby you gotta get out”
This was fascinating... The drama! The twists! omg
I remember when Rebecca was shown in Vienna...and if I remember correctly there was quite a buzz in Vienna when it was announced that it will be shown on broadway. Especially after the Dance of the Vampires desaster hopes were quite high...but suddenly all the buzz stopped and I think the scandal never really got big coverage in Germany/austria.
I love this type of content I would love more!
I love scandals way too much 😂
This was such a good video everything just kept getting worse & worse. There needs to be a tv show or movie on this!
LOVE IT WHEB YOU TELL ME THESE STORIES X
I would love more videos like these, super entertaining!
You are the BEST story teller honestly