Bugatti Quirks - Steering
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 16 ต.ค. 2024
- Ivan does a 'deep dive' explanation of ball joints, taper pins and split pins on the steering of a Bugatti. Possibly a little 'niche', but we thought it was an opportunity to share his experience and knowledge with his followers.
He mentions learning a few tips from the late Guy Griffiths. Here is a link to his motorsport photography archive. www.guygriffit...
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Fantastic video, I’ve often wondered about the engineering of Bugatti’s, which is championed by many but sadly explained by few. This video and previous ones are not just explaining but showing the ideas of Mr Bugatti, excellent, love it many thanks for this. I’m sure this will be watched by future generations. Camera work is getting very slick too. Keep up the excellent work, Hugh ❤️
Went to the Montlhery Vintage Revival last weekend, never seen so many Bugattis in one place!
Another fasinating film guys, thanks for sharing.
Thanks Ivan for an excellent insight into detail.
Absolutely fascinating - thank you for sharing your Bugatti knowledge. This confirms what I've always felt: sharing know-how isn't giving away secrets, it's just making everyone aware of how hard it is to do the job right.
That was an excellent lesson on Bugatti steering. Very interesting to watch and learn about how it was done. There was a lot of very smart engineering built into those cars which worked flawlessly. Thanks to the crew for maintaining and showing us these lovely cars.
Thanks Ivan, and crew for educating us on Bugattis!
The sprung drag link was on the Riley as well even on the road cars. Come the advent of the MoT it was misunderstood by the mechanics who failed them under regulations. The antidote was to pack the seating of the ball with sixpences and split pin the castellated nut up. This gave a pass and on return home the sixpences were removed until the next MoT!
An absolute fountain of mechanical information and wisdom. Suzie, I can easily understand why you want to hang out at this garage. Unfortunately, I am in the Midwest of the U.S. but I would love to spend a day just listening to things Ivan has to say. I think I saw a Bugatti in the Henry Ford Museum but that was probably the only one. There aren't many in this country and people do not race them. There are so many questions that occur to me when he is explaining these things. There are mechanical approaches unique to these Bugatti's that were not used in any other automobiles.
Hey Suzie. You wern't kidding on the masterclass. EB was obviously a great thinker. What must be remembered here IS that a Bugatti, as all the other race cars of the time were totally hand built. With the beancounter in the smallest office with his single candle. The mass market trackrodend production is now overseen by a clueless, pimply faced, Spyphone toting beacounter sitting in a massive LED lit airconditioned office producing cheaper than chips Sh1t. It's ok. I'll take my medication now. (A discussion over a bacon sandwhich must follow.) Super vid, super content. L&Bw from the Black Forest. Mike.
Thanks Ivan for the intuitive look into the finer details of Bugatti steering components. Mr Bugatti was indeed a brilliant motor engineer, I'm sure he would have appreciated your levels of understanding of his design.
Such a valuable resource for future owners.
Bless you Ivan. I will never have a Bugatti but I can recognize your and your son's importance in keeping these wonderful cars alive and well. There will come a day were someone will use this video to do the job right and maybe save a life. Please continue to put this info on these cars into the public for the future generations. In a hundred years this video will still be relevant.
Wish i had the time to sit and watch Ivan, john and the crew all day in the workshop in person. The smells, chatter, sound of tools and machines filling your senses to the full. What a cracking episode of Shed Racing, and it is an absolute joy to watch and listen. Never to old to learn from the masters.
My hat is off to you, Sir Ivan.
Thanks Ivan. I will never work on a Bugatti but the information is fundamental to many things.
I'm amazed every time I come to this channel. These guys are true masters of their craft.
Ivan is such a character and wealth of information, and has made me appreciate the engineering that went into Bugattis. His detailed explanations are brilliant and really make me consider details I've overlooked in the past.
Ivan doesn't miss a trick, even his overalls perfectly match the car. :)
I remember Ivan telling me all these tips 35 years ago when I restored a T57 for a customer. It was great to talk to him then and it's great to watch him now! I agree, they are a joy to work on
Fascinating engineering with elegance. Love it.❤
Absolutely riveting episode. Helps you understand the unique combination of engineering and artistic genius that Ettore Bugatti possessed.
every day is a school day with Ivan , what a great video , thankfully there are people like Ivan who studied this and learnt from the masters to become masters them selves and now hear for all to learn , thank you as always one and all
Fantastic video Ivan and Team. EN36 is a spurb choice, excellent carburisation but retains a malleable core after heat treatment. Often used in my industry.
Best wishes, Dean.
Excellent information on the tapers and when explained what a great idea a taper locking a taper , yes I do remember using Prussian Blue when I was young fitting tapered pins and also getting out of my car when I got home from work and my tradesmen back then put Prussian blue on the back of my steering wheel and gear stick 😂
The world needs more Ivan’s….. Ivan for PM!!!!!!
absolutely fascinating, thanks for the explanation Ivan. Bugatti certainly had their own way of doing things whilst their parts still looked stylish and elegant.
I love the hand vise being used for safety on the drill press.you all are a cut above the rest.doing what needs done properly.priceless knowledge being shared.
Ivan saying "don't forget to subscribe ! " sounds more like a threat than a request . Thanks again for another informative video .
Brilliant Ivan! They are really quirky those Bugatti’s! Just love your enthusiasm! Looking forward to the next one 👍🏻
Love your work. Always interesting.
Really fascinating and an easy way to get a masters degree in Bugatti right here. Happy happy!!
Even when it's something I'll never mess around with you manage to teach me something that will come in handy. Thankfully my Model T Ford hotrod tops out at 40mph, so I don't have to be too fussy. Cheers from a shed in Iowa
Absolutely brilliant again! Mr Conway! Remember him so well, can hear his Canadian accent now, Prescott with his 43. You havent mentioned the 50P piece yet!?!
There is a very interevsti g article on George Newman from the May 1936 number of Motorsport available on line.
A Master class thank you for your time and all that information that's stored away in your NUT Ivan loved the video thanks Sue for the video.
Thanks Ivan and krew ; amazing how somethings are similar even today 😎 !
Ivan… brilliant channel thanks for being so knowledgeable and engaging…. Sorry to be off topic, I’m just about to machine the rear leaf spring plates for my TD… are there two a side ( top and Bottom) or just at the bottom …. Cheers
Ivan might be worth soaking the leather in neatsfoot oil for a couple of hours. It will preserve the leather, repel moisture and reduce vibration transmission the longer you soak it the thicker the leather will swell so a couple of hours should be enough. soaking dried out old leather will revitalize it, it wont repair tears or rot.
17:00 - 100 years later, and Toyota are STILL using this joint in drag link of the 70 series Land Cruisers... And they still wear out and fall off in harsh conditions (like underground mining) 🙂
Thanks for sharing your knowledge Ivan.
Ivan is like a supercharged version of Fred Dibner.
Yet again brilliant thanks team….ps a Citroen 2cv has similar steering ball joint system
Note how the extra hole drilled you can see around the 11 minute mark shows the shaft is hollow, maybe forged in a process similar to the axles shown earlier? Only other way I can think to make it like that with period tools and methods is to braze plugs in a tube, that would show up with some careful polishing of an end.
Some of the buses I worked on years ago had similar ball joints but they had a threaded cup that took up adjustment so the track rod could be adjusted in the usual way. A lot easier to maintain but they were a fuss to overhaul.
why is the leather coupling necessary ?
Is it to allow for misalignment of one thing with another as the steering wheel is turned ?
11/10 again! Thank you.
I wonder if you could hard chrome the ball back to round? With CNC grinding to final of course.
In awe 🫡
Wouldn't installing a Zerk in the tube to grease and push out dirt help make the ball last longer?
A suggestion might be to put a rubber sleeve over a newly rebuilt unit and seal it with plastic dip. It might just allow a longer life without the grit and muck getting in and eearing
Hi Ivan probably so how do you turn the ball on the end
Good day all! Ivan I want a light like I have seen you use many times. Would you please name the manufacturer so I can buy one. It appears to be very useful. Thank you all for the great videos!
it is a Sealey LED02G, I think - very useful
Snap - On sells them as well. Bought mine a few weeks ago, use the daylights out it every day. Ivan's brand may be more cost effective however. Can't speak to the comparison of the two brands. Wouldn't shock me at all if Sealey made them for Snap-On, looks like exact same unit.
Any one who has worked on a car from the '60s or so will have seen the differences. Although a lot of American cars have something similar, from channels like Iron Trap, etc.
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I'd say that with Ivan, nothing is too "niche" with me...
The steering on my Citroen 2cv has the same type of ball joint, that's the nearest I will ever get to a Bugatti.
Two tapers that are the same will
Stick together with amazing strength.
I saw a Bugatti recently that did not have any of these issues as it had Morris Marina suspension 😉😉
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Just as well this is being recorded.
Did Ivan design the Melos ?
Thanks
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The more you Know.... It makes me wonder why the didn't wrap some leather around the joint to help keep debris out.
Such beautiful engineering...sigh...
29mins of joy and I don't mechanic.
What happened was……!
I pity the fool that argues with Ivan about a Bugatti!