Cool seeing this at k&m.. Shannon was my lead instructor at a army advanced long range marksmanship course i took back in 06. He was a staff sgt back then.
Very cool video! I am interested to see what results pro shooters get for this kind of distance. I went at the local range to shoot at 300 meters yesterday and with my preferred match ammo I got 5 shots inside about 3.5 inches So I was pretty happy since it was only my 3rd time trying out the 300 meters range, but I did not have to stress to move at all, just sitting, and no time constraint either like you, so great job guys, you rock! Inspirational!
A $20 dollar bill is just over 6 inches in length, so I would put those groups at closer to 0.8 MOA. Still great shooting by all 3, and fun to see how accurate the pro's are!
They were closer to .7-.8MOA for sure. We didn't have a ruler downrange but we should have. Staying under 1MOA with the movement and improvised positions involved in these stages is pretty tough in reality. No so hard from a bench though.
EXCELLENT VIDEO !! / EXCELLENT EXERCISE !!.....Non reactive MAKES a guy trust in his equipment & videoing gives solid feed-back with breakdown for a completely finished exercise. AWESOME practice !!
@@humorss The mag probably wasn't loaded. He was most likely doing a dry run. You can see at 4:08 when he sets the rifle in position that the bolt doesn't move at all. Still, a very smooth action
@@shootinbruin3614 .....bet'n you are right, but, I don't agree with dry runs being allowed, especially after being introduced to that at the last match I shot at,......though a complete novice saying, for what it's worth,....it did make me appreciate the challenge that way.
Great video! I wish we could get gun owners and military personnel who don't compete to shoot this as a comparison to show how good competition shooters are.
What an awesome idea for a video I would love to see this turn into a bit of a series and have some shooters dialling elevation put in the mix. Possibly then compare it to a new shooter or intermediate. As always top work.
Depending on your application, we offer our Oryx, Field stock and XRS chassis. They are a great value and price point. They will all give you a ridge and solid platform for your action
Andy Slade is running our Comp Brake. For 7mm PRC, you can go with our 308 brake and you will need to select the thread pitch size that is on your barrel.
They are shooting at 1,5 inch dot at 500 yards. 1 MOA at 500 yards would be 5 inches. I think they did exceptionally good, managing to shoot less than 1 MOA a that range quite a few times
Suppressors slightly increase muzzle velocity and can positively effect harmonics and ease the transition from the barrel to the air. But poor suppressors can reduce repeatability with a loose mount. On the other hand, in a PRS environment, they can slow you down moving the rifle and they don't reduce recoil nearly as much as a brake, which can effect your ability to call your own shots and increase time to recenter for follow up shots.
Of the random testing I've seen, you will get a poi shift from bare buzzle to mounted suppressor(which is obvious) but once you re zero to the suppressor, the accuracy should be exactly the same. There is debate if you will gain or lose some fps with a suppressor but it's really gun and suppressor dependant but overall any increase of decrease in velocity is negligable (10-20fps max) which ammo variances could also be the culprit even with perfectly weighed powder charges. My 2 cents 👍
most PRS open division rifles are 6mm caliber, Cartridge varies. (6BR, Dasher, XC are very popular.) Some still shoot 6.5 creedmoor or 6 creedmoor as well.
It's about 3-4 inch group for the first (and best shooter) if you exclud the two shots down left... The dot is 0,15 moa. These groups are not 0,5.. But i'll never shoot that good anyway 😂
This is relatively impressive but can’t help but note how much simpler it makes life when your rifle weights a tonne! Would like to see these guys in some practical hunting situations too just to see how they stack up, say quad sticks at 250
The point is to have less recoil so they can maintain a site picture on the target and track their round so they can adjust. Can't do that with a 300 win mag, or even a non braked .308 lol.
I mean, these guys all compete and place well in competitions at the level of the PRS Finale, they are some of the top shooters in the sport by literal definition
Certainly the featured shooters are skilled, but the PRS matches are no more than a hyped game of golf. They don’t encounter significant “stressors” that would challenge more accomplished shooters.
This is the shooting world's version of Gay Fit..I mean, Cross Fit. 2" diameter barrels, 4 pillows, 3 portable benches, and a tiny 6mm bullet. Come on. 😂 you better be accurate and hit inside a 2" circle. Its even worse than geared Powerlifting with 3 and 4 ply suits and knee wraps adding 150lbs or more to the lift. It has the mandatory monkey suits, the cool kid tattoos and the trendy beards..hell, some of the competitions even have Women in them.
@@equalleftrights3130 sure didn't. All competitive sports evolve to find the maximum level of performance possible under the constraints of the rules in place. PRS is simply a competitive sport that has evolved toward high precision and accuracy dictated target sizes that allow for some amount of system error (wind, temp, velocity etc). The top level competitors achieve 85-95% impact rate gear that is within the constraints of the rules. Your initial description of PRS is obviously meant to stoke conflict. Barrels are .9-1.25" contour, no pillows these days but usually one support bag, we don't carry benches but occasionally they are used as a props by ranges/MDs. We do run 6mm but that is trending back towards 6.5mm. Your opinion is of course yours to voice as you see fit, however, the reality of PRS is it teaches how to build fast, stable positions and learn to read the environment at long range. Those skills translate to every manner and form of rifle shooting. Good luck and shoot well!
10-shot groups from a bench group over a 5min span from one spot and a 5 position PRS stage from props on paper with no feedback on target are *slightly* different....
LOL!! Yeah, cuz we all "quote" our groups when shot from improvised positions (rather than prone with a rear bag or from a bench) and on the clock. Given the exercise, these groups are incredible.
Impressive precision from positional shooting postures instead of a bench or prone.
Cool seeing this at k&m.. Shannon was my lead instructor at a army advanced long range marksmanship course i took back in 06. He was a staff sgt back then.
really puts into perspective how good these guys are. i am likely to print a group similar to francis' group at 100y hahaha
Great video guys!
Inflation is affecting everything, including shooting sports. They had to use a $20 bill instead of a $1.
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This was a cool video. I think the three of you did very well given the shooting positions and time frame.
Great video! Any chance of you posting some of the basics as far as the individual shooter's set-up (i.e. chassis, barrel, glass, caliber, etc.)?
Very cool video! I am interested to see what results pro shooters get for this kind of distance. I went at the local range to shoot at 300 meters yesterday and with my preferred match ammo I got 5 shots inside about 3.5 inches So I was pretty happy since it was only my 3rd time trying out the 300 meters range, but I did not have to stress to move at all, just sitting, and no time constraint either like you, so great job guys, you rock! Inspirational!
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A $20 dollar bill is just over 6 inches in length, so I would put those groups at closer to 0.8 MOA. Still great shooting by all 3, and fun to see how accurate the pro's are!
I think it's the PRS equivalent of a fish story.
But yeah, still good shooting.
They were closer to .7-.8MOA for sure. We didn't have a ruler downrange but we should have. Staying under 1MOA with the movement and improvised positions involved in these stages is pretty tough in reality. No so hard from a bench though.
Pretty cool video idea! That sets the standard.... I mean i'd probably struggle doing that kinda group from a prone position! These guys rock1
Those pro shooters can stablize their reticle impressivly quick on the target!! Great video!!
Better be Quick.....time is running
You guys have been making a lot of great content at K&M! Awesome facility 👍 Keep up the good work and pf course shooting 🙌
EXCELLENT VIDEO !! / EXCELLENT EXERCISE !!.....Non reactive MAKES a guy trust in his equipment & videoing gives solid feed-back with breakdown for a completely finished exercise. AWESOME practice !!
Good stuff. Love watching/listening to these guys. Miles To Matches Podcast
Man this is good stuff. Keep it up guys.
At 500 yards, very impressive.
3:10 that action is so smooth it's closing just from a little forward momentum
and its pushing a round? how smooth is that mag.
@@humorss The mag probably wasn't loaded. He was most likely doing a dry run. You can see at 4:08 when he sets the rifle in position that the bolt doesn't move at all. Still, a very smooth action
@@shootinbruin3614 that makes more sense
@@shootinbruin3614 .....bet'n you are right, but, I don't agree with dry runs being allowed, especially after being introduced to that at the last match I shot at,......though a complete novice saying, for what it's worth,....it did make me appreciate the challenge that way.
@@ericrumpel3105 it wasn't during a match so there's no problem doing a dry run. We do it all the time for training.
Great video! I wish we could get gun owners and military personnel who don't compete to shoot this as a comparison to show how good competition shooters are.
Awesome idea! If we get the opportunity to film something like this we make sure it happens!
Great vid!
Very impressive! Did you notice how close Andy's last two shots from the helicopter were? Looked like 1" apart.
Better than most snipers I’d say
Love K&M, what a great facility!
Holding pretty close to 1 or just under 1 MOA. Very solid
What are the things that attach to the back of the scope
They are trigger cams so you can see what the shooter is seeing through the scope.
Great Content!
Excellent , Great Stuff 💯💥💥💥💥💥💥💥
What an awesome idea for a video I would love to see this turn into a bit of a series and have some shooters dialling elevation put in the mix.
Possibly then compare it to a new shooter or intermediate.
As always top work.
Please recommend a solid system to put in a mdt chassis for a budget
Depending on your application, we offer our Oryx, Field stock and XRS chassis. They are a great value and price point. They will all give you a ridge and solid platform for your action
Those dudes are good. I wish i was half that good
What Setups are you guys running?
What gun, caliber, Scope, accessories?
Could someone please comment on what muzzle breaks are these guys running? im looking for same size break to fit into my current build of 7PRC
Andy Slade is running our Comp Brake. For 7mm PRC, you can go with our 308 brake and you will need to select the thread pitch size that is on your barrel.
@@MDTTAC great, thank you for your feedback!
@@Syxtus_outdoors You're very welcome!
They are shooting at 1,5 inch dot at 500 yards.
1 MOA at 500 yards would be 5 inches.
I think they did exceptionally good, managing to shoot less than 1 MOA a that range quite a few times
Actually 1moa at 500 yards is 5.23" but still they shot very well considering.
@@nocturnalspecialties642 Close enough
What magnification are the optics you are using?
We ran mostly 20x but our scopes (Chad and I) are 5-25 Mark 5HDs and Andy ran a Gen 3 Razor.
Does anyone know what muzzle device they are using? It looks like a muzzle brake, but it is covered... Sorry, I am new to all of this.
Andy is using the MDT Comp Brake. Chad and Francis are using a suppressor with a cover over it.
some serious gear in shooting out to that distance plus skill of course
Awesome video. This range is in the States?
Yep, K&M Shooting Complex in Finger, TN.
Good shooting guys
Here's an interesting idea: Do suppressors improve accuracy?
If they do it's by affecting the harmonics. All that weight at the end of the barrel has to change the amplitude of the wave.
No
Generally suppressor keep the blasted away from shooter which in turns should allow shooter to be more accurate. That’s my take as owning one
Suppressors slightly increase muzzle velocity and can positively effect harmonics and ease the transition from the barrel to the air. But poor suppressors can reduce repeatability with a loose mount.
On the other hand, in a PRS environment, they can slow you down moving the rifle and they don't reduce recoil nearly as much as a brake, which can effect your ability to call your own shots and increase time to recenter for follow up shots.
Of the random testing I've seen, you will get a poi shift from bare buzzle to mounted suppressor(which is obvious) but once you re zero to the suppressor, the accuracy should be exactly the same. There is debate if you will gain or lose some fps with a suppressor but it's really gun and suppressor dependant but overall any increase of decrease in velocity is negligable (10-20fps max) which ammo variances could also be the culprit even with perfectly weighed powder charges. My 2 cents 👍
I wonder what moa they can achieve with a 5 shot group stationary bench table at 100 yards?
0.1?
What are you shooting with? Lasers? Give as the rifle calibers
most PRS open division rifles are 6mm caliber, Cartridge varies. (6BR, Dasher, XC are very popular.) Some still shoot 6.5 creedmoor or 6 creedmoor as well.
What are some tips to reloading a bolat-action faster?
Get dummy rounds and practice trigger presses and running the bolt.
Dry firing is what I meant.
Practice
Long range rifle shooting is fascinating. It's a.boend of science, and some sort of magic.
what caliber are they shooting?
Is eyepro an option? I wish my range would allow no pro, I sweat like a pig, glasses constantly fog up.
very interesting.
cool video!
This is cool and all.. but what if they did it all shouldered? Now that would showcase a lot more imo
That is a good idea for a video.
Was anyone else waiting for him to shoot the fly or was it just me?😂
What was the distance?
How do you watch the video and not know the distance?
Gives me hope. I don’t see anything here someone who can shoot couldn’t do with a .5MOA or better rifle.
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How is this 0.5 moa when you're covering a 6.1" dollar bill at 500yd?
It's not
It's about 3-4 inch group for the first (and best shooter) if you exclud the two shots down left... The dot is 0,15 moa. These groups are not 0,5.. But i'll never shoot that good anyway 😂
@@tetrakosarihondaturbo2810 I agree, just repeating what was in the video. It's good, but not 0.5moa
The groups are closer to 1 moa...
1 moa = 1 inch @ 100yd. At 500yd, 1 moa = 5 inches ,so a 2.5 inch group at 500yd wpuld be 0.5 moa.
@@JDC_Outside We know the math. It's not a 0,5 moa group.
I feel like I'm watching GSL Code S
Great video but turn the music down or off. It ruins videos like these.
shoot the fly!!!!!!!
This is relatively impressive but can’t help but note how much simpler it makes life when your rifle weights a tonne! Would like to see these guys in some practical hunting situations too just to see how they stack up, say quad sticks at 250
The point is to have less recoil so they can maintain a site picture on the target and track their round so they can adjust. Can't do that with a 300 win mag, or even a non braked .308 lol.
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Easy 😮💨
Is yours scope blurry? How could u missed a shot with that kind of gun and a great scope? 🤦🤦😔
Turn the damned music off!
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Great video, terrible music lol.
ther real accuracy is 1 moa in 500 yard boss
Scrubs
Some of the internet sniper comments in here are pure gold. If you can do better show up and get humbled!
Shooting is good. Music sucks. Everything is not a music video!
Ridiculous
None of them are worlds Top PRS shooters.... I have seen far better shooters...
I'm interested in hearing more...
I mean, these guys all compete and place well in competitions at the level of the PRS Finale, they are some of the top shooters in the sport by literal definition
Certainly the featured shooters are skilled, but the PRS matches are no more than a hyped game of golf. They don’t encounter significant “stressors” that would challenge more accomplished shooters.
Found the person that's never shot a PRS match.
@@k2svpete exactly what I was thinking.
I'll take that bet... See you at the PRS Finale, right? 😎
🤣🤣 okay bud...just tryna trash ans stroke his testosterone filled ego
This is the shooting world's version of Gay Fit..I mean, Cross Fit. 2" diameter barrels, 4 pillows, 3 portable benches, and a tiny 6mm bullet. Come on. 😂 you better be accurate and hit inside a 2" circle. Its even worse than geared Powerlifting with 3 and 4 ply suits and knee wraps adding 150lbs or more to the lift. It has the mandatory monkey suits, the cool kid tattoos and the trendy beards..hell, some of the competitions even have Women in them.
We found the dumba$$ of the day☝
Seems legit... Come out to a match and print some 2" groups! It'll be fun! 😎
@@FrancisColonPRS point went 12 mils over your head. I wouldn't get caught around a clown show regardless of the grouping I could achieve. 🤣
@@equalleftrights3130 sure didn't. All competitive sports evolve to find the maximum level of performance possible under the constraints of the rules in place.
PRS is simply a competitive sport that has evolved toward high precision and accuracy dictated target sizes that allow for some amount of system error (wind, temp, velocity etc). The top level competitors achieve 85-95% impact rate gear that is within the constraints of the rules. Your initial description of PRS is obviously meant to stoke conflict. Barrels are .9-1.25" contour, no pillows these days but usually one support bag, we don't carry benches but occasionally they are used as a props by ranges/MDs. We do run 6mm but that is trending back towards 6.5mm.
Your opinion is of course yours to voice as you see fit, however, the reality of PRS is it teaches how to build fast, stable positions and learn to read the environment at long range. Those skills translate to every manner and form of rifle shooting.
Good luck and shoot well!
@@FrancisColonPRS I see, very well. Thanks, you too.
Either these guns aren't worth a shit or the shooters or their ammo. Take your pick but for 499 these groups are trash .
10-shot groups from a bench group over a 5min span from one spot and a 5 position PRS stage from props on paper with no feedback on target are *slightly* different....
@@FrancisColonPRS You know better than to reply to this
@@RichBorrett you're not wrong! Lol. Just had some free time while cruising the 'comments'. 🤣
LOL!! Yeah, cuz we all "quote" our groups when shot from improvised positions (rather than prone with a rear bag or from a bench) and on the clock. Given the exercise, these groups are incredible.