How Parkrun became a front in the gender wars
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- Benedict Spence, Tom Slater and Fraser Myers discuss Parkrun’s disastrous embrace of trans ideology.
This is a clip from the latest episode of the spiked podcast. Watch the full thing here:
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I truly hate the fact that people label any common sense thoughts as far right. I hate that is a left right issue, I know we could say woke and anti woke, but there surely must be a better expression. I don’t think the far right exists as an entity of any noticeable size in the UK, unlike communists, or more to the point people who identify as communists because most don’t understand communism.
Quite
You could call it "cultural marxism", which I think sums it up best, but it's too easy to associate that with so-called "far right" people like Jordan Peterson, and you'd have to explain to most people what it means. Woke is the best term because everyone understands what it is, even if they pretend not to. "Woke" is pejorative, but it's hard to describe in a neutral way, because anyone who subscribes to woke ideas has quite simply taken leave of their senses. It's a mind virus.
Agree completely. When someone labels conservatives far-right it's a waste of time to listen to them.
Women have a uterus is a fascist statement.
Logic is Far-Right.
I’ve always said that if women want to regain their own categories in sport they have to walk off the field of play and let the self misgendering competitors run on their own.
Let the confused Park runners run on their own.
I shall not be taking part in a park run ever again until they reverse this decision .
Come on people walk off the field to stop this madness.
Sadly there are too many women who identify and sympathise with the deluded
misogynists and are really just virtue signalling to their friends and fellow travellers on this road to hell, which is particularly dangerous and threatening for
women, not to mention the outright blatant robbery being perpetrated on status and financial rewards that female athletes used to be able to accrue. Only a few admirable and courageous ladies, eg. such as Sharron Davies and Riley Gaines have spoken out so far. (there are others, but not enough!) The best way to stop this farce would be for the REAL WOMEN to remain on the podium at the start and let the delude misogynists compete with each other and kick up the most almighty stink if not allowed to to compete in an all WOMEN event. You can do it ladies!! just go for it.
Sadly there are too many women who identify and sympathise with the deluded
misogynists and are really just virtue signalling to their friends and fellow travellers on this road to hell, which is particularly dangerous and threatening for
women, not to mention the outright blatant robbery being perpetrated on status and financial rewards that female athletes used to be able to accrue. Only a few admirable and courageous ladies, eg. such as Sharron Davies and Riley Gaines have spoken out so far. (there are others, but not enough!) The best way to stop this farce would be for the REAL WOMEN to remain on the podium at the start and let the delude misogynists compete with each other and kick up the most almighty stink if not allowed to to compete in an all WOMEN event. You can do it ladies!! just go for it.
Exactly, experience a little bit of pain in the short run in order to win the war.
Exactly. I totally agree. There is no women’s sports without the women!
Good idea - leave 100% of the places for trns
I remember when the Guardian used to be a newspaper.
Newspapers went obsolete 30 yrs ago
@@audie-cashstack-uk4881 I think this doesn’t refer to actual paper
The Grauniad, I used to subscribe to this former newspaper, sadly.
I don't - I only remember when I was deluded enough to believe so
Im in my 40s and dont remember that lol
Absolutely spot on - it is a breakdown in trust. Once organisations take on the ideology it starts to turn it on its head.
I really wish you people would stop denigrating these events, as an out of shape, overweight, man in his 50s this is my one chance for Olympic glory, I've already bought a running frock.
Wmn can do *anything!
Ha ha. The organisers need to see that men will self identify as women because they can. Rules must change. We want common sense made legal.
No need to buy a frock, as long as you feel like a woman, that’s good enough for most sporting organisations.
Lol
You’ll need a training bra mate.
The Guardian is now further left than the Daily Worker.
Further left than the Pravda…
Left Right doesn't capture it. Many class-struggle based leftists are aghast at the culture war left identitarians.
Woke is not left. But this is misogyny not woke if Oxford defines woke as "aware of social and political issues, especially racism". So The Guardian is pro Trans and misogynist and confused. It should stick to (biological) reality? That's what journalism used to be, reporting truths, facts and reality.
The Guardian has always been a lefty rag
If hating the working class can be called 'Left Wing'.
Shouldn't lying about your sex be regarded as fraud?
I identify as a pensioner
Give me my pension
Mens feelings trump women's rights to fairness...
You're missing the category of 'men that are mocking the system'; entering the women's race to make a point about genders rather than endorsing them. If a policy allows men to self-identify as women and some men disagree with that policy, what better way to undermine it than to identify as a woman, break the record and mock the policy?
Are these men letting them know this was to prove a point or do they just take their trophy and go home?😂
If women will not have the spine to defend their space, why not?
@@Kyle-sr6jmthey do many have been doxed beaten up etc the men also need to hold men like this accountable!! It effects your wives daughters mothers!
@@Kyle-sr6jm loads of women have tried. Lost jobs over it, been mocked, been threatened, more recently arrested. You'll say threatening is just that a threat. But who needs or wants to live their life wondering if that threat will be carried out.
We have been silenced for years, now the tipping point is here and we can talk yet we get here on this video 3 men talking about what women want.
@@lessabledwomanlosers script.
A lifetime guardian reader- never again. Unreadable rubbish now. So narrow and woke. 🤮
What am I missing? Permitting a policy of allowing men to declare (pretend) they're women - on either side of any any political camp, is damaging. Because there are definite adverse consequences for that - not just for women, but for children & even men.
There isn't an ok situation for left or right or in between to let or encourage this type of abuse; because THAT'S WHAT IT IS.
It matters to women/girls rights and protections at every age or level of sport or whether they're registered as politically this or that. It's not going to keep men from performing their AGP for themselves, they just can't compel others to promote unhealthy behaviors, or quash others rights to serve that person's mental state. See it for what it is instead of trying to mollify every disorder or compulsion for fear of not being 'inclusive' or 'diverse'. What women will tell you - is this is simply straight up abuse that targets women and kids.
I identify as Batman. I am Batman.
I identify as Royal my pronouns are
your Royal highness !😂
I identify as a Parkrun jogger ... 😊
@Vates104... need a Robin? I'm ready
I don't believe you because I don't see any evidence of crime-fighting
I love you, Batman. 😂
I'm a bit of a runner, nothing amazing, but at 50 I can still get a 3.40 marathon. I never competed at a high level, but I used to get into the top 20% of women for my age. In a 5k I was sometimes in the top ten women home. I think i was once 11th woman home in a half marathon.
But I would be lucky to be in the top 50% of runners when compared to men. Do we get rid of the age categories too now? Do I, as a 50 year old woman, have to compete against 18 year old men? Of course it doesn't matter, I can still run, I can still compare my own personal bests, but there was something nice about being one of the better female runners.
That's not equality. Whatever your timing, everyone should be awarded the same position
@@OrwellsHousecat Oh gosh, you're right. It doesn't matter how many how many 5am runs I do in the pouring rain, I should have exactly the same time as a guy who just sits in a chair eating cake. Otherwise it's discriminatory towards lazy people.
That's true equity. All hail the mighty DEI gods in their infinite wisdom.
@@hmsealey3243 precisely! There should be a category for everyone. One category per person. Everyone's a winner
@@OrwellsHousecat Absolutely. Success is horribly discriminatory. How dare people use their skills or even - gulp - actually work at bettering themselves. Bigots.
@@hmsealey3243 so glad to see that you get it. If there's one category for each person then everyone can win. Unfortunately it means they also cone last too, so we'll have to find a way for them to get one over the other contestants in their category (ie themselves). Such a great system. Equality is so cool
I was surprised to learn the Gender War has progressed even further in so many other countries. I thought it was mainly an American problem but it's really been a global thing for a while.
Canada is particularly 'enlightened' - they'll put you in the slammer and take your kids away for questioning the new Trans religion.
Im not sure its right to place park run as a "fun run". Its extremely competetive and people have fought hard for their times and positions for years. To have it overturned by a trans athlete must be incredibly frustrating.
I ust use their trick of altering the meaning of language and now consider Far Right to mean Really Right as in Very Correct, because that's the way it seems to be used anyway.
As an elite runner who has been ranked in the top half dozen times in the 65 plus male group since the first park run in 2004 it is sad that the outcome is that no longer will data be visible .obviously as an ex club runner of national standard I have had other completions to enter over the years ......however for the parkrun committee to take this action and not address the transgender issue full on is cowardly and does not comply with DEI .....excellence it seems is now a Dirty word and should be excluded.......very very sad....
ok.
Shows how much trouble a tiny, yet well funded, minority of nonsense mongers can cause for the majority.
The only real solution is for all sporting events to be open, as in open to anyone age, sex, gender or whatever. Then there would be an outcry from biological women and rightly so and it would force the Government to make a general ruling, one way or the other but hopefully the right one.
You mean, back to how it was before women';s categories were invented for this very reason?
I'm planning to be the fastest penguin in the world... Come and watch me woddle by over the line.
I'm so glad you made the point that unfairness in grassroots sports impacts the vast majority of women & girls. Elite sport is important too but grassroots can't be ignored, it's the only sport most of us will ever do and females are already under represented.
I was on of the women who ran at Cannon Hill parkrun in a "Save Women's Sports" t-shirt earlier this month and my photo was deleted from parkrun social media. I feel like the Guardian article was aimed at (amongst others) me and my four friends who ran in these t-shirts implying we are under the control of a right wing think tank.. which is ridiculous 😅. I'm a lifelong left winger and I think parkrun has been a force for good, I don't want to lose it, but I'm not the only one who is upset to see it throw female runners under the bus with this policy.
Open and Female categories would work well. Gender identity just isn't a factor in your parkrun performance and thats what running categories are there for, fairness in measuring performance.
Thank you, it’s so refreshing to see men speaking knowledgeably about this subject.
Could you go have a word with Mr Jeffreys at parkrun. 🙏🏽
This reminds me of a small child closing their eyes and thinking this means no one can see them.
Parkrun pretending they deleted the records because it's not a competition (when we know its because they don't want to be fair to women) is just an obvious lie.
Park Run is not a race. Everybody just runs against their previous personal best, so the leagues should never have been published.
+@666izzy,
I agree and disagree.
I agree, as when you first do it, it's all about passing the finish line, then it's about "can I do it faster than last year".
But one way we measure how good we are doing, is the stats, so age and gender are usually to two big things that play a part, so when you realize that within "your group" if that's the correct terminology e.g. lets say your a 60 year old Woman, and you completed the run faster than every other Woman in the age range of 55-60, you'd feel pretty good about that.
But to then out that one of reasons your not doing so well (as a Woman) is due to a Trans Woman identifying as a Woman, or as a Man the opposite would be having pride in finishing faster than X amount of Men, to then realize that most of those Men were born Female, it kind of messes this up.
But again, Trans people make up 1% of the stats, so based the on chance of probability, it wouldn't have too much on an impact (unless your goal is to win, but 99% are doing it for fun).
The decision of "let's just remove Age and Gender" was not the right move.
Yes people can lie, a 25 year old Man can say he's an 80 year old Woman, but how many people would do that?
I'd much rather (as a Man) pride myself on doing better than I thought (due to Trans Men identifying as Men), rather than attempt to beat my personal best each year, because without knowing it I may be over doing it, and it's not rare to die while running these things.
@@ChrisJohnson-x1x I totally agree with what you're saying about comparing yourself to others within "your group".
But that is not the purpose of Park Run. Park Run was set up to encourage people to run, and to focus on their own achievements and improvements. It was never meant to be a race and, therefore, is not about comparing yourself with others.
If you want to compare your ability with other runners then join a local running group or club.
"Far right" = not Far Left
Far right ? That case we all are except for the looney lefty guardian readers.
If there is an apple, there usually a banana.
If "she" has nuts then "she" probably is nuts. 😛
First they came for the women with Parkrun records, and I did not speak out because I was not a woman with a Parkrun record.
why is it that biological sex, which is actually biologically defined yet we are conditioned to recognize it based on secondary characteristics, was challenged first; when challenging the idea of race, which actually is based on secondary characteristics with no absolute biologically defined characteristics, would actually have been progress towards unity?
is it because people might have been open to the scientific reality that there is only one human race, or species, which is homosapien, which consists of a myriad of continuously developing genotypes and that someone who looks different is not a different race but just a human being that looks different; if they had not first been conditioned that challenging their own established sociopolitical narrative is wrong, dangerous, and divisive?
answers build questions, not understanding
questions build understanding, not knowledge
knowledge builds answers, not questions
Read Feminism
@@OrwellsHousecat Is that answering the question, or begging it?
@@jswets5007 both.
@@OrwellsHousecat Okay. Watch out for the forest while you're staring at that tree. Have a good day, unless you have other plans.
@@jswets5007 it's a shame that someone waxing lyrical won't look into the roots of modern social engineering.
This should be of vital importance to understanding the current seeming insanity.
Just at the point of time when biomedical tech can reveal the most detailed intimate elements of human differences, the sociopolitical tyranny is to 'equalise' everyone.
Just at the time when a few select countries are shifting from nuclear fission to nuclear fusion energy generation, they clamp down on energy sources which other countries have access to.
How does all of this happen? A classic case is feminism. Once you know how that works, you'll see the whole Statecraft & social-engineering agenda, methods, technology, teleology, and ideology.
You're welcome.
Since I value freedom and respecting that every human is individual, that makes me far right today... These used to be left leaning principles not long ago
There’s a reason why most males are right handed.
Park run is not a competition in any way at all. The records were a bit of an anomaly so getting rid of them actually made sense.
If it's a "Fun run" we should have a list of finishers without times. Have the list in Alphabetical order... Problem sorted. Some runners have dog assisted too, which I think that's an absolute advantage on times.
That's called enabling. Sounds cowardly.
Then there's no point just go on your own.
Aka women can't have fun competition if it makes a transvestite feel like they're not winning
The problem with your suggestion is *how do you police it?* You *cannot* ask volunteers at parkruns on the ground to police whether someone coming first is really female or not. So, if you can’t police it, having any kind of record becomes a nonsense.
Every man that has taken a womens parkrun position looks like a man. We don't need to ask.
Volunteering rates will go right down when they start needing a marshall to deal with the urine samples.
AAgain.its not 'people' causing the problems...its men. Just say men!
I identify as an antisocial old git so couldn't think of anything worse than sharing my run with a load of other people, actually 😂
Just have XX chromosome and XY chromosome categories. Simple.
Bonkers
You mean the left guardian
The countryside is far right!
Imagine identifying as a pronoun 😂
Women wanted this.
No, women did not. Most are very vocal about this, you just don’t know about it. Unless Matt Walsh is speaking about it, it, no one seems to want to hear about it! I was contacted by police in 2013 in Melb Australia, about me complaining about men in my local leisure centre change room. Women have been routinely silenced about this for over a decade.
No they didn't. RILEY GAINES. KJK. Men wanted this.
Bingo it all goes back to femtardism
How many women do you know who want men in their sports & changing rooms? I know hundreds of women & not one of them wants this.
Can't say no to a wmn - give her what she asks for
Women’s sports are boring anyway, except for beach volleyball and, maybe, tennis.
I identify as Spartacus.
I'm Spartacus!!
I'm spartacus.
I’m Spartacus
He's spartacus
@@mattblack3261 you're spartacus 😊😊
Competition is....to win,park run?is this relevant?