Jewish Galilean Miracle Workers in the Life & Times of Jesus - The Mages of the Rabbinical World
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- Jesus of Nazareth is without any doubt the most famous of the miracle workers, Jewish or otherwise, of the Second Temple Period. However, because of the glare cast by Jesus and early Christianity, it’s easy to forget that such miracle-workers abounded in the ancient world generally and in the Jewish context more specifically. Several other specifically Galilean miracle-workers are known to us from both Jewish history and lore. In fact, they seem to have constituted a unique class of men capable of such miraculous feats, known as 'anshe ma’aseh' or “men of deeds.” In fact, Jesus’ Jewish contemporaries very likely would have understood him in something like this category. In collaboration with @ReligionForBreakfast in this explore I explore a few of these Galilean miracle-workers or anshe ma’aseh who lived just before and after the lifetime of Jesus of Nazareth. From Honi the circle-maker who could compel G-d to make it rain, to Hanina ben Dosa’s extreme piety accidentally inducing miracles and who forestalled the power of the Queen of Demons to Shimon bar Yochai, so pious that even the key commandments of the Torah didn’t apply to him and whose very gaze could incinerate those before him and from whom the secrets of the Kabbalah are said to flow, even an errant resurrection of the dead following fisticuffs at a Purim party.
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Yes, very interesting, I can't get enough of the boxes in the back. I would love to know where you got them!! plz or shut ai sei: PL0X
I'm heading for b-fast afterrrr
"aliens" are hereeee!!!! ahahaha
its people of culture now, those that STEM from the internet!
#PC not #PG
Yes, [I], is a mathematical number, a #, thus making it [R], AKA Real Number
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Great video! Thanks for the opportunity to collab!
Many thanks to you and for really making what I do possible. You are a gift to religious studies education, friend!
You two are my favorite channels on the subject. So glad to see a collaboration.
break fast sounds faster than this guys intro lool
*esoterica's intro
jk, i have nuff BFs
It's like how there was New Kids on the Block, Westlife, Boyz 2 Men, 98 Degrees, O-Town in the 90s but all we remember now are NSync and maybe the Backstreet Boys.
This is the best analogy ever. Indeed, even the right stuff.
I feel Honi the Circle Maker is like the boys 2 men of ancient Jewish miracle workers
Joke's on you I remember every single one of them. It torments me every night.
Speak for yourself I know all the songs by Boyz 2 Men.
@@achka Old guard
Man, this is wild. I took your introduction to philosophy class my first semester of college. It so inspired me that I went to seek out methods of thought like you so diligently described in class. I found ReligionForBreakfast in my search and now feel like I have come full circle.
Looking forward to binging your channel! Great video!
I found ReligionForBreakfast first I think. So many good resources on YT
RFB is great too. More pithy.
You're one of my favorite Jewish scholars, Dr. Sledge!! 🤗 I am a Catholic, but I love all your videos and learning alot from you. Thank you for teaching us. ❤🌷
Work based religion. No wonder. Idolatry isn't anything new to you
@@Marco-717 What are you doing here?
@@Marco-717 No Confessionalism
"but"
@@Marco-717 Of course a clueless prot would come up with such an ill-considered comment
Raise one person from the dead and you're necro-curious. Bring yourself back from the dead and you're a full-on necromancer.
Lol
Or a malignant necrosist
I am an ordained Christian minister. Many Christians refuse to accept the obvious fact that Jesus was born a Jew, lived his life as a Jew, and died a Jew. He wanted to reform Judaism, not destroy it.
Christianity was founded and promoted by his followers, who were often the object of Jewish anger about the claims of Jesus being the Messiah, etc. All beliefs must be put into context.
Would there be Christianity today if it weren't for Paul [ aka Saul ] and Emperor Constantine?
No religion should be founded on the abilities of a very talented magician.
Christianity has three powerful aspects: Repentance, Redemption, and Rebirth. Ponder on those.
@@perihelion7798 very based take
Gives me a whole new perspective on both Jesus and the entire area/era.
My brother, your dedicated study and research provides me with so much knowledge, that I use to confront and question the local evangelical Christians that infest the town I live in.
Andrew is an excellent content creator and scholar!
For sure, in a lot of ways the inspiration for my channel.
You are! 😮
@@TheEsotericaChannel Please study the miracles happened in Christianity ( especially in Catholic church as they recorded miracles happened at Fathima and Lourdes ) in a scientific and rational way and make a video.
Other than not covering the infamous Peoples Front of Judea martyr, One Sandled Brian & his miracle of the Gourd, this was an excellent video!
And his healing of the Mute Hermit, and his miracle of the Juniper Bushes
I'm so happy to see this community of studying religion academicly grow more! please keep it up! we need you! ❤️
I love this channel, man. So incredibly well researched but also accessible and pleasant to hear.
Esoterica, Religion for Breakfast and Let's Talk Religion are incredibly good channels. Keep doing that great work!
I found your channel from Religion for Breakfast. So amazing to have cool stuff backed by academic rigor to watch while I eat my toaster strudel. Thank you to both channels for your amazing content.
I would love an Esoterica video on the esoteric roots of Mormonism. There are some strange stuff that have occurred in the history of Mormonism.
That is probably way out of his normal area of expertise, so he would probably colab with someone on that.
I am reminded of that scene in The Life of Brian where several mystics and miracle workers are lined up on a stage in a public square.
I'm not even half way through but I love having this cultural context for the place Jesus grew up! Wonderful!
Thank you very much for putting the founder of Christianity in his true context of simply one among many miracle makers.
The New Testiment leaves its audience clueless that the saintly Rabbis of that time drew miracles continuously in their wake.
Actually every Christian knows about those fake Messiahs. The difference is that only Jesus succeeded. Gamaliel even spoke about others similar to him, also said if it’s from GOD you’ll end up fighting GOD. Indeed that has been the case as prophesied on ZECHARIAH 11
@@azuma_ayame " just like so many people follow different denominations" Hey "buddy" all those denominations *ALL* agree with the main beliefs in regards to being God, died and resurrected and will come back to judge geniuses like you. You could follow your favorite rabbi who *ALL* agree with their *BABYLONIAN* holy book where God was defeated by the really smart sages and where they are supposed to put *ACTUAL* human blood in their mouth contrary to what Torah says.
@@azuma_ayame Which part is not true? Go ahead so I could show you with your own *BABYLONIAN* pagan book
@@azuma_ayameWhy don’t you read Bart Ehrman so he could debunk your theories of pagan gods. Follow that by watching digital Hammurabi to Learn some history. But why don’t you want me to show you all the Pagan nonsense that you Babylonian holy book has
@@azuma_ayame You should listen to yourself. Why are you afraid of looking at the proof showing your *BABYLONIAN* holy book contradicting Tanakh
Keep it up, you're one of the greats.
Go u
Great video, thank you! I once heard Bart Ehrman say that when he watched "The Life of Brian" (while still a fundamental Christian), what bothered him most was the scene where Brian starts preaching in the market square, and there's a dozen of men like him, all pronouncing various teachings and prophecies. Because this scene pokes fun at the fact that Jesus was by far not the only prophet and miracle-worker of his day, even though that is what most Christians simply assume today. But of course, most peope simply don't know much about the history of that time period in the Levant.
I am christian and I learned very early, that in Jesus´s time, there were many people who CLAIMED to be prophets, who were mostly ignored because they were full of crap, but also not a threat to anybody in power. And yeah there were probably some magicians, who were able to actually do certain things too...like in every culture. But they lacked something Jesus had. Jesus was still the one who stood out and ruffled many feathers. Every priest and pastor I have talked to explained that many people were preaching at the market during this time. Its not a taboo or secret or whatever. To say the other men were just like him is a kinda weird. All the people who were transformed by just meeting Jesus, didnt seem to have the same experiences meeting all those other men and did not feel the need to put their life on the line to stand by their side.
@@calistafalcontail How do you know that the other prophets and healers who were active around the year 0 in the Levant did not attract faithful followers who were transformed by meeting them and put their lives on the line for them?
Religion for Breakfast is great! Its cool to see you decided to collaborate with some of the other esoteric academic study channels as well. Mah man. Much respect to you both. 😎👍
Dude the meme captions you do are hilarious. I'm still laughing about zeek on the research chemicals bought with hashem coin
Best team up ever! My two favorite scholars!
Three Magii showing up at the birth of a new Magician, sounds right to me...
Belt of Orion, pointing to Sirius
I feel like I have been given a wonderful gift. Thank you so much, I am at a lose on how to express my appreciation.
I love the story of Hanina and Agrat! Just this image of a massive horde of demons on an endless bender, wrecking up the place, coming across this poor rabbi on the road and being like "WOAH! They really like you up in Heaven, dude! Before I came down here they told me: 'Agrat, don't touch a HAIR on Hanina's head!'" And Hanina being like "AUCH! If they liked me so much up in Heaven they wouldn't let YOU run around wrecking up the Place! You make such WORK for me, you DRUNK!" and there's a crack of thunder, Agrat falling to her knees all "NO, Rabbi Hanina, PLEASE! Leave me SOMETHING this is my only joy in life!" And the rabbi shakes his head "Fine!" throws up his hands "Who am I to get in the way of Happiness?" nodding his head "the night of Shabbat, people should be in anyway" shoos her "Have it!" "Oh Thank You, Hani!" Scratching his head "aaaah, Wednesday's, too, you have a good heart, even if you're a trouble maker." "Youre a great man, Rabbi; A Great Man!" "Stop, Stop! I dont need the flattery; I give my poor wife enough trouble. Go on, you crazy kids!" and so, because it's Wednesday night, they continue on their bender "Thank you Hanina" Agrat waves "You'll always be my FAVORITE rabbi" Hanina waves back "Get a Job!" XD
I envision the part of Rabbi Hanina in this sketch being played by Larry David imitating Bernie Sanders.
New sub here from religion for breakfast. I'm so glad I found your channel because this kind for stuff is crazy interesting to me! I can't wait to dig into your more of your content
The Sledge Hammer knocks it outta the park AGAIN! You make Esoteric Thought DELICIOUS Doc!
You are the best teacher I have found other the Micheal sugrue lectures on TH-cam. Thank you
You're truly the best at this! So thankful for you and your work!
Great collaboration with Religion for Breakfast! I enjoyed this video and Religion for Breakfast's video greatly! Much respect!
I've heard stories of a miracle worker, going from village to village, plugging in USBs on the first try.
I had watched half of this and then rewinded it to rewatch it which caused Justin to say ‘well, you know what happens, the goats bring back the messiah, specifically’
Great overview of these absolute mad lads.
Keep up the exceptional work, Dr. Sledge 👏
This was super fascinating! I honestly had no idea how prevalent miracle workers were from around that time.
It almost makes it more miraculous how Jesus had so much attention, favor, but also criticism at this time despite other figures being considered miracle working holy men.
Jesus had very little institutional attention unlike for instance Honi. He was executed simply as an insurrectionist and was otherwise institutionally unremarkable.
@TheEsotericaChannel I suppose that's true, but it still seems interesting how his legacy snowballed like it did, when compared to his contemporaries.
We can thank Paul for that one - best hype man in history
@TheEsotericaChannel Of course, Christianity wouldn't be the same without him. That does make me question though; why would Paul choose Jesus' teaches to spread. By the way, I saw your video theorizing that Paul, possibly being a practitioner of Jewish mysticism, may have influenced his conversion to Christianity, very interesting and informative.
This was the video that introduced me to your channel, I was directed here from ReligionForBreakfast's video. Stellar work you've done, mate!
Thanks for what you do!
This was very interesting. Never heard of other miracle workers in that area during that time - I need to read up on this some more. Just subbed to your channel recently, I know I can learn a lot here. Thank you for sharing your knowledge, Dr. Sledge.
We need people from all cultures to start digging in their old writings literally, and ... digging up ruins and old structures, hopefully to uncover more writings and clues. Dr. Eisenman mentions the Zaddoks being able to call forth rain, as in... to cleanse the world of evildoers etc.
I recall hearing a brief version of this during some Ancient Near East and Roman lectures. What a cracking deeper dive!
Someone must have eaten all the hamantaschen at Purim and got whooped? Lol I love this historical stuff. Great content!
Love the story of Honi "Without the Attitude, Please" HaMe'agel
Thanks!
Found your channel via Religion for Breakfast, really cool stuff you got here!
Well, that is incredible context. Thank you!
Great video!
Great lecture…thank you. I appreciate the background that you bring to your lectures. You help broaden my understanding of this time period. Your use of multiple sources, not always easy to understand, helps a lot. Thanks.
About comparing spiritual beliefs to other cultures in the same era: i had read that Chinese tombs were also set up in the belief that, like Jesus, the dead would LITERALLY RISE INTO HEAVEN> and i thought, hey...why hadnt i been aware of this for my whole life!? I assumed that the ascension into heaven was unique--- we did not learn that in catholic school; it was kind of taught in the understanding that many things were unique to Jesus, which weren't! The outrage! In my mind. WOW
Fascinating - it actually makes sense of this bible text "When John, who was in prison, heard about the deeds of the Messiah, he sent his disciples 3to ask him, “Are you the one who is to come, or should we expect someone else?”" Matthew 11 - which suggests that doing such acts was not uncommon at the time. Further, walking on water was considered a miracle, but Jesus said his disciples lacked the faith to do so - which also implies others can do it if they believed - I wonder how that applies to getting more youtube views hehe :) - thank you for a great video
exactly i think the main point of difference between christ and the others is that many people were doing miracles, many jewish rabbis apparently as well! but he was the only one claiming to BE god. the rest are just doing it through god which would be how a regular person would do it. (side note i love the idea of a guy yelling at God to make it rain when he finally does it like nothing and he shows what that’s all you’ve got and then gives like a full torrential downpour is over revengeful now how are you? Can’t just just give a normal thing you have to be like a genie about it? And only that does give him a regular rain storm lmao)
An interesting chapter of the book "Zealot" by Reza Aslan is dedicated to the other messiah. I always wondered if without the great personality of Paul of Tarsus the faith of Jesus would have been to same that left Shimon bar Yohai and many others on the edge of history
Very exciting stuff. Those couple of hundred years where BC becomes AD is my favorite time period. I hadn’t realized the healer’s were in that time period.👍
This is so neat! My take away from this is that the miracle stories from the gospels are literally just Jewish folklore. Like if Jesus was Joshua from Białystok there would be stories about him making golems essentually.
Thanks Justin , always a pleasure , never disappoints . ⭐
I love you and Andrew so much and it is very exciting that you two are working together
I know this vid is old but hopefully you two can collaborate more often!
Andrew sent me!
Thanks for the generous support of the channel!
Amazing and insightful video Justin! Learnt a lot as always and really enjoyed it! Many thanks :)
Hi Doc! Indeed RFB is a great channel and I am here because they recommended you on their channel 🙂
2 of my favorite channels. Love to see these collab/crossover projects you guys do, along with other esoteric/occult/religion channels. Thank you for your work.
What is your other favorite channel if you don’t mind sharing?
For the record I hadn’t heard about religion for breakfast until this video. I started following you first!
Thank you again for another wonderful and insightful video!
Rather apropos that you visited the tomb of the “Circle Maker” while your tire was being repaired!
Anyway, love the channel! Keep up the great work!
Hi. Religion for breakfast sent me here.
Thanks guys for clarifying obscure things.
stories tell of Jesus going to India, Learning the ancient Pali, identified as a God on Earth, then getting run out of town on his way back to the homeland. (for teaching the same things he did as accounted in the Bible)... seems to me if others had this knowledge (be it Pail, Eastern Anceint, Hermes, pre-flood) , I just discovered your wonderful intelligent channel, so if you talked about this before... I'm still catching up. thank you for your amazing work, passion, and approach.
Jesus go to india is a false story
Comment to feed the magical algorithm. Great video too!
The birds chirping in the background was a nice touch.
Danke!
Great timing doing a video about the Rashbi just after Lag B'Omer!🏹
Would you believe it was an honest to goodness accident?
@@TheEsotericaChannel shhh, LASER EYES!!!!
This might be the best video I have ever seen to explain jewish christian crossovers.
Dr. Sledge, thanks for the deep dive into these mystical 'miracle' workers. It helps to put the life and times of Jesus into perspective. I have to wonder if the Hellenized Jews who wrote the N.T. gospels would have been familiar with the stories of these 'miracle workers' and purposefully crafted the story of Jesus with that in mind.
There are those who also think that the Greek speaking authors would have also known that to paint Jesus' life with a literary stroke to mimic things like the death of Heracles, the healings/resurrections done by Asclepius, and the ascension and apotheosis of Romulus would have made him more appealing to the Gentles (Dr. Dennis R. MacDonald, Dr. Richard Miller).
Have been enjoying the depth of your information and the respectful way it's present. Shalom!
This is the only guy that explain Jewish religion religion in the right way
Telling you as a jew from israel this guy is correct in everything he saying and explain it better the all the TH-cam shit thank you Rebai Justin
If Yeshu Ha'Nozrit and Rabbi Hanina Ben Doza were gallivanting about Galilee at the same time and could have met, it's infuriating that neither the late 2nd Temple Jewish or early Christian literature mentions the two meeting each other!
Hello, this was a very interesting presentation. I'm not well-versed in the Talmud (early Christian historical interest), but I find the Bar Yonai story fascinating on a Freudian level, haha. Thank you.
Hanina to Agrat: "You can have a little rampage, as a treat"
Gotta love the laser eyes! Well done, sir.
So coll! I think Honi deserves a trading card. Ned Flanders did that schtick in the barbershop quartet episode. However, if done right, I would buy them lol!
I’ve listened to this several times because the idea of Honi the Circle-Maker delights and astonishes me because of his gigantic balls and cool name.
The Christian point of view is this :He must be nailed to the Cross and rise again. This is most significant thought of Christianity. Prior --in mystery schools it became a personal experience from Initiation .
Esoterically- Walking on Water , not a uncommon image, had to do with taking the Christ within oneself so that one can , in free will, be the designer of one's own fate. To carry this image of Christ into the beyond. I take much of the Bible as "in-between" the physical reality and the other spiritual - free from the senses. That can be called supernatural but on the other hand Archetype. The debate goes on in the realm of consciousness as to what it actually is.
Another thought on Jesus:is that he was the prepared body to receive the Christ . The same [CHRIST] as Julian the Apostates three fold Sun which I find interesting.
One wonders how much of the Gospels are "secret" transcriptions with a multilevel interpretation based on ones own self knowledge or as to how much of the Bible is partly historical and partly liminal , e.g. something to be read in the Astral light . Miracles are not really as important as the Cosmic event that seemingly changed the course of our cognition and is evolving.
A common thread is: That Christ will return in the Etheric | common to the Rosicrucian stream.
I think highly of your videos because they explore something inherent in mankind's quest via the word in the symbolism of Alchemy, hermeticism and magic.
And that poetry and language is the metric of magic; magic being what transcends life as an animal and therefore all the gradations of angels.
Thank you for the welcome! You do have very intetesting things here! I love the alembic! ❤
Doing a show on Christianity soon and this is going to be perfect thank you
That was an awesome live stream! I'm fascinated by the bronze age -- this was the stew that all the Iron age gods came from, from Zeus to Yahweh.
All these miracle workers performing different magical powers, even burning things with their gaze like Superman or Cyclops, makes me wonder how we haven't gotten a comic book or YA novel retelling of this time period. 😅
You mentioned in passing a Hanina miracle stretching someone's rafters. Isn't there an apocryphal Child Jesus gospel where Jesus stretchs boards working in Joseph's carpenter shop?
Great collab! Thank you for the great videos and interesting info!
Doc sledge is awesome
Rabbi Aryeh Kaplan refers to it as perhaps a type of White Magic. If you go with his Meditative Kabbalah it’s likely two different methods that both induce the same altered state of consciousness through which one can accomplish supernatural feats
I'm sorry. I heard it as "Homey the Circle-Maker who could compel god to MAKE IT RAIN." I'm a wonderful person.
fascinating and informative
It cracks me up how my egos most vain version of myself is basically who the host literally is. Basically my mind larps all the time that I should be a dark esoteric academic guy but irl I’m just a regular macys catalogue guy who read Crowley once and immediately started trying to create the Merkaba and traveling the tree of life only to find out it’s not actually like that. Lol 😂
You and everyone else here.
Personally I found a connection to astrology that transcends all religions, leading to the conclusion that they're all celestial metaphors based on the Metonic Solar Lunar Calendar (Solomon)
Kept waiting for you to mention Brian.
I’ve been subbed to you for awhile but never heard of his channel
I have been telling everyone about the circle maker and the other miracle doods. Excited as hell for this one. History is buried by marketable bullet points
Awesome channel man! Just found you and subbed! Looking forward to dabbling!
Our Heavenly Father can make anything possible. Faith is trusting in God durning hard times. Faith is what is getting me through my hard situation. I’m still struggling to providing for my two autistic children since losing my job over declining the vaccine. I declined due to my pre existing health condition (Lupus) and Heart disease. I was denied my medical/religious exemption from Forsyth Hospital. My husband passed away three years ago, so I’m all alone. Both of my sons are non verbal so things are more hard on me. Every month I don’t know how we are going to make it through. Every month is a struggle, a battle to not end up on the streets. I’m so depressed and embarrassed by my situation. I’ve been put down and mocked over my circumstances. Even was accused of lying simply because I post comments. Just more lies from the devil. I’m so ashamed and overwhelmed.
BUT because of my faith God shows up every month and provides. Even as I face homelessness with two young children. I know that God will provide abundantly.
May Hashem turn his face toward you and give you peace! Shalom! Baruch Hashem!
Fascinating, as always
Great as always
Nice video 👍 thanks 🙏 for the upload!
Amazing collab! I never knew that Galilee in Jesus' time was a hotbed for "men of deeds" like himself. I'd heard of Honi before, but didn't know he was from Galilee. It's too bad that the Jesus movement/Christianity seems to have lost the humor that's present in the Jewish miracle-worker stories. Or maybe it got (deliberately?) lost in translation.
Just got hijacked by the Romans
The Christian miracle stories of Jesus come off as dry or just too darn reverent
Love the channel. God Bless
I love that all the religion TH-cam channels I watch are doing Esoterica videos right now