The 2022 Subaru Forester Wilderness Is A Uniquely Rugged Compact SUV
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 2 มิ.ย. 2022
- Between the #SubaruForester and Outback, the #ForesterWilderness is the most capable and rugged version of the #Forester family and at the same time, for 2022 it gets a mid-cycle refresh to keep the line fresh. Just like the #OutbackWilderness, the #Wilderness version of the Forester gets all-terrain tires, increased ground clearance, unique gearing in the transmission, and updated styling. It's a genuine alternative to a Jeep Cherokee or Toyota RAV4 Adventure and should help Subaru keep this model as the brand's best-seller.
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Happy Friday everyone! Between the Jeep Cherokee Trailhawk, Toyota RAV4 TRD Off-Road, and Subaru Forester Wilderness, which off-roady compact SUV would you choose? We would like to thrown in the Mazda CX-50 Meridian Edition, but nobody had driven that trim yet and its not on sale either.
Forester wilderness the cherokee trailhawk is a close second
Forester for sure.
Off-roady compact SUVs from a buyer prospective: #1 Subaru Outback Wilderness, #2 Subaru Forester Wilderness, #3 Mazda CX-50 Meridian.
I purchased a 2022 forester wilderness over the other options. The Jeep doesn’t have the best reliability or fuel economy and the Rav 4 TRD off road doesn’t really offer much over a regular rav4.
I really wanted a 4Runner TRD off-road but it was $20,000 more and poor fuel mileage. I’ll wait for a plug in or hybrid 4Runner lol.
2023 Toyota RAV4 Hybrid Woodland Edition.
The honesty and simplicity of the current Forester is refreshing. It's definitely a "get in it and go" type of vehicle. I'm glad they haven't stuck Subaru's new laggy infotainment in it. This head unit is basic but it has a lot of features and it is easy to use.
Listen my friend you hit the nail right on the head. I have a 2020 Subaru Outback Onyx XT with the large infotainment system. This is the worst piece of tech I have ever used. It literally reboots in the middle of driving, sometime even with the safety system. It seems like it's gotten worse after their latest firmware update. My phone won't stay connected to Apple CarPlay. I love the vehicle but I can't stand the electronics. I am truly thinking of just defaulting to a Toyota next time but Toyota prices you out with basic options.
I think there is a large segment of consumers that actually appreciate the simplicity of the interior. It is very refreshing that Subaru hasn’t jumped on the “trendy” train that most competitors have. I love Subaru’s designs and basic styles. Tried and true speaks volumes
Plus a CD player! 😁 My daughter loves the fact that she can play music that's not from Spotify.
I just bought the 2024 Forester Wilderness for 2 reasons. The 2025 front end looks like an older Ford Explorer and that big iPad type infotainment system. I want them knobs, not everything on a touch screen.
Nice review, although I actually prefer the smaller screen in the Forester over the Outback setup. I hate it when basic features, like climate control, are in the screen.
No turbo = more reliability. So no problems. I don't get why so many manufacturers put turbos in their daily grocery getters.
Agreed, everyone thinks they need to go 0-60 in a few seconds...
So we can cut in easier. Its dangerous to cut in on the highway when your car is very slow.
@@dha588 Because everybody thinks they need to get somewhere jeopardizing safety in order to get to their destination a few minutes faster.
@@dha588 I drove the 150hp crosstrek for a few times. It has zero problem going 90mph on ramp to merge in😂
So rush to get to shopping mall parking lot.
I'm just barely seeing this. I saw the first review you did on the FW and it helped me decide to purchase one. I've had an issue with the electronics, but hope it's a one time thing. Aside from that, really love the vehicle. Thank you for the information and honest reviews.
Great and thorough review. I'm in the market for a new vehicle, and the Forester Wilderness caught my eye. Really like the trim and green coloring.
Ordering this one soon! Cannot wait to have this.
Very nice and detailed review. One of the best reviewers on TH-cam. And this is coming from the guy who watches a lot of them. Subscribed.
I love my Forester Wilderness. It is very capable and could easily have more ground clearance than the Outback Wilderness if you upgrade the tires to the 65 series rather than the 60 series. (I understand that the only reason Subaru put 60's on this car was because of height limitation of their assembly line). Function wins out over form for most of us who enjoy this car and it easily out-performs the Outback Wilderness off-road. I did tons of research before buying this car and it works very well for me!
Hey there thanks for the reply. I'm doing a ton of research on this vehicle as well and I think I'm ready to order one. I'll be doing a lot of BLM camping so the full-size spare is essential, along with the added weight capacity of the roof rails and the waterproof seats. In other words, I'll be using the vehicle for its intended purpose. My only hesitation is the mileage, so I was wondering if you've measured your actual mileage? Thanks, and glad to hear you're enjoying the car! And also do you know off-hand how much the ground clearance would be increased with the 65 tires vs the 60 that come on the vehicle? Thanks again.
Are you concerned about the CVT ? Many people will not buy because of that.
@@chriskitchen4772 - not the least bit concerned. This CVT is not like the others. It has a different gear ratio and is probably the top performer in Subaru’s lineup. I have seen no one who has remarked about issues with this CVT. This vehicle outperforms the Outback Wilderness off-road and it is probably because of the CVT.
@@RandyAllen702 Thank - you for your quick reply. I may be getting one of these. Cheers !!!
Do you mind explaining the 60 and 65 series? I am new to this.
Good review so I appreciate not to much criticism on it I love my 21 Forester I find it to be exceptionally smooth and responsive and spacious easy drive
i just test drove a bunch of cars in the 35-40k range and the suspension on this thing was great. Did not feel any bumps
I have taken mine up to nor cal from San Diego. Got 30 mpg. I was solo. This month I had 4 ppl with luggage got 26.7 mpg to the Grand Canyon and Sedona. The Forrester has a 16 gallon tank.
I've got one of these, and love it. Came from a '19 forester sport that I had lifted with a long travel suspension kit, and larger tires, so I had to give the same treatment to the wilderness.
I'm completely fine with no turbo, it's got enough get up and go, and the transmissions they pair with the turbo models (the tr690) are less capable off road than the transmission in the foresters (the tr580), not to mention after monitoring things on my scangauge during a day of trail riding, you really don't need that much HP. The most my engine ever generated was about 50hp, and that included muddy steep climbs, and a 2100 foot climb in about 18 miles on pavement.
Another thing I really like is the additional transmission cooler, compared to my old '19, which would be 200+ degrees during my day to day city driving and could get up to 240+ degrees out on the trails. my wilderness, with its cooler, and gearing and ratio changes, stays around 180 during several hours of city driving in a hot, humid city, and when offroading, never got close to the same temps my '19 would experience in day to day driving.
Researched this car segment for the last 2 months, my findings, - 5th gen forester rated #1 in safety and readability over all others including RAV, trial hawk, honda and bronco. That said, it has been a long road for Subaru from the CVT tranny , oil consumption, head gasket issues of past generation vehicles. At 6'3, CR just announced the Forester is #1 with tall drivers as well, no surprise as the "green house" visibility is very attractive. All the safety dings can be disabled permanently, with the exception of engine on/off at stop. After market solution will solve that as well. So, I will be picking up my Subaru Forester Wilderness / pearl white next week. Comfortable driving on and off road, safety and readability, looks, honest service advisors that I have visited with during this time, all have pushed me this direction. And finally driving my daughters 2017 Forester premium, sold me on being a Subie owner. Suggested maintenance to ensure long life; 30k diff (F/R) service, 40k CVT Transmission service, and oil changes every 4k. HAPPY TRAILS
Hey, thank you for a review!
Great review...I agree with you that there should be a turbo version and Subaru have been playing it too easy lately. I think it would be wise if they brought back some of the XT mojo.
I had an ‘03 Forester from 2007-2019. Loved that car- blown head gasket notwithstanding… 🤣
You and every other Subaru owner.
And that is why I still will never buy one.
All they did was leak oil. Unless you ran it hot............and that said, a bad thermostat will trash any engine
I have a Forester Wilderness. The Group 22 option includes navigation, Harman Kardon audio and power liftgate. Rear automatic braking is standard on the Wilderness. The front passenger seat is manually adjusted. There was no power option.
Lovin the hair beard growing in 😊
Is it true that hybrids don’t last as long as combustion engines?
Excellent road review! I am so glad you talk about the need for a hybrid; hopefully Subaru can put one in here cost effectively. For me, without a cooled seat option, I think I would just prefer decent, breathable cloth seats for our triple digit summers. Not sure I would pick either the Rav4 or Cherokee over this as it is a nice sweet spot of capability and usability (function over form), however I am interested to see if Honda makes an off-road trim for the next CRV (with ground clearance, decent tires and full size spare please)
Great review.
They need to bring back XT.
Do you know if anything ; reference running gear has been beefed up, like the size of suspension components; u-joints ; drive shafts etc? Or is the only improvement the more geared trans, and retuned suspension?i was going to trade in my wife’s 2021 Forrester sport , and was trying to qualify the loss of mileage to her; I have heard other reviewers say you lose 4 mpg on the highway , I thought you had said 2? I live in wyo and I’m constantly on bad roads I probably should not be on? Great video as usual!
Hope you get feeling better soon, Sofyan!
i really need ur help i can’t make up my mind about which car to choose the mazda 3 or the subaru xv i know that they are not comparable one is a sedan and the other one is an suv but i need to know since u probably drove both which is best in driving dynamics (comfort-stability-driving fun-sound insulation)and stability on high-speeds and cornering is the most important to me???so could u please help me and thank u for your hard work and consideration U are so dedicated to this and we are thankful for that
I have a 2014 with 136000 miles and it is still running strong. And if driven lightly I am still getting 25mpg in town and close to 30 mpg on highway. So with the insane fuel prices i appreciate it. Would get another one.
I love my 16 Forester 2.5i Premium , once I pay it off I'm getting the Wilderness in that Geyser Blue 💙
NOOO I want to be the only one on the road with that Geyser Blue LOL! We just ordered it and added all the bells and whistles. At 52 YOA when it arrives, I will own my very 1st New Vehicle, thanks to the ridiculous used car market!
Hi Sofyan! Love your TH-cam channel. High trim outback has wireless charging.
Yes! I’m totally waiting and hoping for Subaru hybrid Outback and/or Forester. I drive a Forester now 😊 I genuinely like the Toyota Corolla Cross hybrid but prefer something more robust, bigger. Subaru Solterra looks good as far as I can tell but I still prefer a hybrid before a full EV
Please comment on the improved eyesight? Is lane keeping better?
I really like these except those Headlights taking me a min to get used to.
Hey Sophian, can you make a video on G80 Electric?
Sofyawn WTH, you already have reviewed this so many times before!!
Same drive-train set up will be in the 2024 Crosstrek Wilderness right?
I'm actually trying to decide between the Wilderness and Touring trims. They obviously have a slightly different missions, but they are both capable vehicles and are close in price. I was surprised they were so close at first, but it actually makes sense if you look at the exclusive features each trim has. I was looking at the Sport trim at first, but immediately realized I wanted more features. I don't really need the added capability of the Wilderness, but more is always better. However, I've never owned a vehicle that was loaded with creature comforts, like the Touring, and it still has most of the capability of the Wilderness. Plus it gets 2-5 mpg better fuel mileage, which is major to me since I commute 90 miles a day. I keep going back and forth between the two and I really need to make a decision so I can get it ordered.
I see your dilemma. We have a Wilderness since we live in the woods on gravel roads. I say, go with the Touring if you don't need the extra ground clearance and towing capacity. MPGs better on Touring. That being said, we love our Wilderness for our needs!
@@ursashaw4806 Currently deciding on the same choices….how’s your real driving MPG been in the Wilderness? Thanks in advance!
Which did you decide on? Also shopping the two trims and threw in the Outback Onyx as well 😀
@@RR-wd9wf I purchased a outback touring xt about 3 months ago. I didn't want to sacrifice fuel economy with wilderness, and I wanted the added comfort of the outback and the turbo engine. I don't go off-road that much so the touring will be plenty capable for my needs, especially with a decent set of trail worthy tires, which I will be installing before next winter. It was an expensive car but I'm pleased overall. Although, the eyesight system p*sses me off at least twice a day.
I have one. Bought it in Jan have 9k on it.
How does it compare with off road performance against it's completion Jeep and Toyota? How does the reliability compare and safety ratings?
The average Forester buyer doesn't care about 0to60 . Space suv like drives like car still and easy to maneuver straight forward simple restraint design exterior . Drives well on the highway or streets power fine for most
Or a refined engine or quiet interior.
Good review, You didn't discuss the auto stop-go which many don't like, but at least the driver can cancel it. Everytime the engine is turned on the system goes to default and the button to cancel it needs to be pressed. Also, the controls on the steering wheel appear to have features that if the driver isn't careful enough they can be inadvertently turned off. I ordered a Wikderness same exact color, not to do offroading with, it but for the rugged looks and extra cladding. Will hopefully arrive at the dealership in August. It's a good value, but for those buying now, the dealer maynot outwardly charge you over MSRP but may tag it under "Administrative fees". A deceptive manuever, but they need to make a profit. My "Administrative fee" is $ 350. Not happy. .
I hate start stop on my BMW X3, same thing can’t disable it, every time I turn off engine I have to press bottom again, I do many small trips during day and it is really annoying thinking about stupid start-stop and press stupid button 15 times per day, start/stop is not worth first 2-3 years working fine but after that slows down starting engine and just unnecessary headache.
Jeep Cherokee comes with V-6, 9-speed auto, a real 2-speed transfer case and locking rear diff. But, cost more.
Looks GREAT! Subaru, MAKE A JEEP!
Noticed engine compartment was different color than body paint. Looks either silver (or primer) and/or overspray?
Having a hybrid version would be a slam dunk.
Or anything other than Subaru's awful CVT
@@TylerBell Subaru issues with CVT, been resolved, since 2017
@@ME-gr8hz they’ve definitely fixed the reliability issues, but they still feel lethargic on the highway.
@@TylerBell Ya, drove my daughters 2017 forester, just bought the 2022 wilderness, not racing anyone any time soon, great readability, and safety, not to mention utility. I guess the lethargic feeling is opinion, as I just watched a off road video, where Forester Wilderness with it's new gearing destroys the Outback with its turbo...
@@TylerBell ya, Subaru has done a amazing job understanding their target market, and they don't have an interest in getting to 60mph in less than 8 or 9 seconds. CR shows the Forester reliability and safety as second to none...
I love Subaru, but my 2017 forsester has had so many problems. 125,000 miles in and close to $10,000 in repairs. Wheel bearings, cv axles, brakes line… so much wrong with it
When was this video posted? Because there is no leaves on those trees.
I like it. Might be time to retire the old Cherokee. 23 years going strong
This or the upcoming 2023 Toyota RAV4 Hybrid Woodland Edition? 25mpg is too low, I suspect in the future Subaru will bring in a hybrid system (Toyota leased) to Forester. I also would like them to add the passenger side shelf storage (above the glove box) that’s found not he Outback, which is quite useful.
If you want a superior vehicle for capability get the Wilderness. If you want a superior vehicle for longevity reliability get the RAV4
am 6'5 300 pounds size 16 boots will I fit in this?
They need an 80’s throwback …bring back the GL10!!
Do we need a turbo charger on the trails?
Where is the heated steering wheel button?
If it has a CVT, can it climb up tall hills (3,000 ft climb in 30 minutes) with a full load without overheating?
It comes with a cooler that helps big time! Didn't do a 3000ft climb, but it was a 2100 foot climb in 30 minutes after a day of driving and trail riding in my loaded down wilderness, with larger, heavier tires. Was monitoring transmission temps all day on my scangauge and it got up to 197 degrees for just a moment during that 2100 foot climb, and then rather quickly dropped down to 185.
I'm guessing there's a thermostat that prevents the cooler from being used until temps get around 200 degrees. But I shudder to think of what my previous '19 would get to... it's day to day city driving temps were 200+ degrees.
Again all I am gonna say, the Crosstrek PHEVs system can fit in the Forestor without the compromises because it's an overall taller and wider vehicle; I know you can do it subaru
I wish the tires were just a bit larger, they look smallish on this body. Even the Outback version has the larger 65 series sidewalls.
Camera work a little rough in this video. Would definitely not use a fish eye lens when filming exterior shots b/c they look so distorted.
I would not buy a Forster unless they bring back the Turbo. I have a 2014 XT and just love this car. I would have already sold it and gotten a new one but instead keep this one in perfect condition in hopes that one day Subaru will bring it back. Adding exterior fancy plastic parts and using fancy names like "wilderness" is nothing more than marketing. And probably slower than the basic one as all the useless gadgets only add weight.
Gotta love that CVT ROAR 🤣😅
Nice vehicle, terrific test. My wife leased a 2020 Forrester Touring and she loves it. Only thing she doesn't like is the stupid thing of the engine turning off when stopped at light. She's had it 18 months and only put 2,400 miles. I've only driven it twice. Drove home from dealer and once for oil change.
There's a switch to keep the engine on.
Why does Subaru keep ass-specing their North American vehicles?
In Japan, front turn signal is LED with headlight washers too
They are promoting the higher towing capacity but it's not ready.
You can't even buy oem metal underguard anymore like previous year. And now they are bragging about 3k lbs of towing capacity but the harness still flat 4 terminal.
where's the 2023 HRV?
I wanted to want this exact vehicle, but I just don’t trust Subaru’s sketchy transmission and head gasket history (barring their older stuff).
Turbo charged engines are bad for longevity. Thankfully Subaru still offers naturally aspirated engines.
How much that one ?
This is off topic but hopefully Toyota makes it a priority to send you their updated 2023 models like corolla cross hybrid, Corolla AWD, RAV4 woodland, etc etc.. same w Lexus and the RZ and RX! We really miss/need your take on these new products!
Yes! 2023 Toyota RAV4 woodland edition looks really nice! But I think Subaru Forester or Outback are more robust & capable compared to RAV4s
Could of added 2 electric motors to get better mpg
0-60 in under 8 or 9 seconds *used to be* sports car territory. People are spoiled nowdays by cars that can do it in under 4.
I don't understand why Subaru hasn't offered outbacks and foresters \
in a hybrid drivetrain
.....like they do in so many other markets
By rugged and being equipped with four wheel drive and all terrain tires they actually mean it can transverse Whole Foods parking lot before it is plowed. .
Facts.
... or a few mountain passes in Colorado ...
try a little research...
I’ve been trying so hard to decide between the sport and wilderness.. I love the seat material and copper trim of the wilderness, but giving up the mpg is a hard pill to swallow, especially on the highway. The exterior styling is close in my opinion but I think the sport comes out on top. I also have deep desire for Subaru to offer the 2.4 turbo in the forester. My wife and I just traded her 2021 outback with the 2.5 for a 2022 ascent with the 2.4 turbo and it’s such a better more impressive engine..
I was torn between the two, just saw them both this weekend and I prefer the wilderness by far. I didn't like the orange colors in the Sport in person, and the seats in the wilderness are so soft. I also love the outside of the wilderness more, just looks more rugged. Going to be ordering one soon.
I really wanted the Sport because of the Orange but the Wilderness has Copper which looks just as good.
What really sold me to go with the Wilderness is: Dual Climate Control ( I like it cold and wife loves it hot), Geyser Blue ( Only model with it so there won't be a ton of cars looking like ours and I think it looks the Best by a country mile), Speed and Power (Subaru modified the CVT so even though your getting the same engine the gearing makes the Wilderness go faster which is why you lose the fuel mileage), We live in Wisconsin so the extra cladding which we love the look of is also way more practical, 800 LBS can go on the roof rack and it hauls 3,000 lbs! We are at the age of adventure and if we want to Kayak, ride bikes, and camp on top of our car plus haul our Quads then no problemo!
We did add the Harmon Kardone package, dimming lights, and hitch.
We just ordered it so now we wait, probably until March or April of 2023 which we're ok with because that gives us 6 months to save payments and put it towards the car plus provides a baseline for how it will effect our budget.
I also had that dilemma: Wilderness or Sport...I got the Wilderness in January, and it has not disappointed. The front view camera comes really handy when parking, specifically in my garage. I had concerns about the mpg, but just following the speed limit in the Houston metro area, I've been averaging 33 mpg (mostly city); once I got it to yield 36 mpg using 3/4 of the gas tank. I don't floor the gas pedal to get to the next stop light, and so forth.
So far, I have put on it close to 7K miles and no issues whatsoever. Either way, you can't go wrong with the Sport or Wilderness. I just feel better equipped with the Wilderness (it has a full size spare tire, identical to the other four, including the wheel).
@@maxolguin4505 l
Why no turbo?
the forester not having a turbo made me go a different route. at least make it available as an option!
We have to put our Outback into Xmode when turning onto our private road and into our garage during the winter months as we get 5-6 feet of snow every winter
Yeah I never liked tail lights, nor transmission
This is still for the urban 'off-road'. The thin tire walls means airing down to 15psi is a laugh.
The black colored cladding looks cheap. I don't like it.
You're the only person I've ever heard say they want electric. No one wants that 😂
Hi good afternoon...Please try review the new 2022 Lexus RX 350h again because i didn't like when Alex did cos you were not available
Take it for a ride yourself. It will be the best review you can get.
Heaps better than the last model but still nothing too appealing
Needs the outback turbo engine
Needs a REAL TRANSMISSION.
@@williamheinsinger7390 ya that too
With $5 a gallon gas the Outback Turbo is not very efficient. Lots of friends have them and get 21MPG. Just like my '20 Highlander. HYBRID is the only way to go.
Compared to the OBW, FW does much better off road in tests I have reviewed, OBW Turbo fights with CVT off road, improvements on FW seems to be higher impact for off road performance
I love the Wilderness but I HATE the Depressing Grey and Death Black interior colors which became popular in 1990.
This is why I refuse to buy it
Some how I cannot equate rugged and off road with a CVT transmission.
Unless Subarus idea of off road is an unpaved driveway.
LOLLL
They still offer that bullshit on this car? Gone are the days where off-reading with a car meant it came with a manual
The worst transmission on the market ever
@@rgqban6380 although some manufactured have been worse than others, they all seem to have experienced problems of some sort.
In my opinion the very physics of how a CVT works is like purposely adding a weak link to a chain.
@@rgqban6380 Gee, Forester consumer reports rating - 90, been leading the segment in quality and reliability for years... Cite your research...
I hope Subaru never goes hybrid and just add turbos on its engines.
If you 're gonna get a Subaru, any model, stick to the base or the one above. Anything higher is not worth the money.
Unless one wants to tow something, or go more serious off road
Forester Wilderness XT? Please Subaru...
I like a lot about it but the looks are not exactly where I want to be.
I don't like the rear!!
That anti glare vinyl stripe on the hood will crack and peel in a few years and then it’ll look like Crap
Needs 250 h.p. and real 8 speed transmission
250 h.p. Hybrid or it will get 20 MPG like my Highlander.
A single, uninspired CVT powertrain. Subaru should do better.
check out a few views
My family has had Subarus for years. Even before they killed off the Forrester XT. They ruined it by programming fake gear shifts into the CVT. That change wiped out one of the only redeeming features of a CVT, the ability to remain at peak power indefinitely.
My 82 year old mother doesn't care, because she has owned naturally aspirated Forresters for years.
I will never iwn another Subaru, because they make nothing which interests me and show signs of wanting to create something which interests me.
If FCA Chrysler puts a 6.4 Hemi in a RAM 1500 or even better, a Jeep Gladiator, by the time I retire in October 2023, I will keep my 2019 RAM 1500 Limited forever and buy a 2023 GR Corolla for a daily driver.
Love the look, though the horrible gas mileage and dated tech is what's keeping me away
I watched all that waiting for the off road part. It didn't happen
Get rid of all that BS tech, not needed. I want a vehicle that's very analog and very reliable.
Since Subaru offers Only Gloomy Grey or Death Black as interior colors in the Wilderness, I refuse to buy one.
Those Fugly interior colors are 32 years old and look cheap, old and distasteful.
When you’re off road, I’ve never seen Grey or black dirt.
I suppose they do in Japan
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, I love the look, so I put my order in!
@@d.s.5807 Cool
That will make mine more unique.
I drove one. It's uniquely noisy. After driving this and an Outback, I got back into my 2003 F150 work truck and felt like I was in a luxury vehicle.
But it’s usability is good
So it is a good option or no ? LOL
jeep compass trailhawk outshines this big times no doubt
Jeep reliability and quality definitely questionable plus the price $$ depends on what you're looking for
@@marcusfieldfield4069 oh yeah? woof woof woof, blah blah blah