is an ACTUARIAL SCIENCE DEGREE worth it?

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  • @ShaneHummus
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    • @dswynne
      @dswynne 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Here is a "challenge": is an International Relations degree worth it?

    • @jaydenmeadors8934
      @jaydenmeadors8934 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      A bro is getting into the drone industry worth it? Also can you do a video about it?

  • @r.michaelmarkham9994
    @r.michaelmarkham9994 4 ปีที่แล้ว +481

    Outstanding video!! As an actuary who hires actuaries, I look for strong math skills (I prefer math majors with actuarial classes), and computer experience is a plus. By the way, actuaries develop software that allow automation. It's just easier to teach an actuary programming skills, than it is to teach a programmer actuarial skills. If you decide to be an actuary, never...never...slack on the exams. After you achieve your FSA, it smooths out.

    • @ShaneHummus
      @ShaneHummus  4 ปีที่แล้ว +38

      Great feedback for the viewers, thank you!

    • @natigmichael6955
      @natigmichael6955 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @R. Michael Markham if you were to hire recently graduated actuarys do u do see how many exemptions they got or their final Mark's..If you can answer what criteria do u use to hire new actuarys...

    • @josephtitus6318
      @josephtitus6318 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@natigmichael6955 I’m searching for a job right now (I graduate in may) and I can tell you that employers will want to know which exams you pass/fail but the specific score on the exam doesn’t matter. We always joke about a “perfect 6” because it really doesn’t matter whether you get a 6 or a 10, both are a passing mark

    • @pauljackson2473
      @pauljackson2473 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@natigmichael6955 I think they only give exemptions in the IFOA for exams. They give exemptions for the the 3 classes required in the SOA if you took the classes in school, but not the exams.

    • @Paaxl
      @Paaxl 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hello you said you prefer math majors. I am currently in Aerospace Engineering but looking at becoming an actuary. Do you think this degree would hurt my chances of finding a job?

  • @nelanithosemoments
    @nelanithosemoments 4 ปีที่แล้ว +145

    I double majored in Mathematics and Computer Science and am now doing my masters in Actuarial Science, I think you made some really good points !! Great video.

    • @paddaboi_
      @paddaboi_ 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      South African? Is it fine if I ask you a few questions about becoming an actuary in SA, I'm in Gr10 rn and the advice would be highly appreciated 🙏.

    • @nelanithosemoments
      @nelanithosemoments 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@paddaboi_ Yes I am South African but I did my undergrad in the US and am currently doing my masters in the US as well, so idk if I can be of much help, but I would happy to answer what I can lol

    • @nelanithosemoments
      @nelanithosemoments 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Kian Naicker Mathematics was the main requirement for my masters, if you have a strong background in that or statistics or even data science you should be good

    • @simangalisomthombeni176
      @simangalisomthombeni176 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@nelanithosemoments Is physical science a requirement to study actuarial science??

    • @jonathan-3008
      @jonathan-3008 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@simangalisomthombeni176 probably not, since actuaries mainly deal with statistics and risk

  • @LM-he7eb
    @LM-he7eb 2 ปีที่แล้ว +54

    Actuaries are the most flexible of all math majors. You can get a CFA & become an investment-banker/FA. You can get an FRM, & become a credit risk manager (Though most actuarial science graduates see this as a cop-out). You can become a statistician.

  • @EtchedActuarial
    @EtchedActuarial 4 ปีที่แล้ว +102

    Great 10 minute summary of the actuarial career path!! :D I gave a thumbs up!

  • @thomaspetiau2861
    @thomaspetiau2861 4 ปีที่แล้ว +112

    I'm in my last year of Actuarial Science in the UK with 8 exam exceptions from the university. One thing I would say is that it is far much more difficult than other math degrees. This is because even being a math genius, you will struggle with the other subjects. You need to be very intelligent overall and understand the financial world like the back of your hand. Still, great degree to have.

    • @lokeshtanwani3466
      @lokeshtanwani3466 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      How did you get exeption from 8 papers,which university fo you attend?

    • @thomaspetiau2861
      @thomaspetiau2861 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@lokeshtanwani3466 I attended Heriot Watt University and we end up doing 8 of the 16 exams at university. For example, it was always 1 each term along with other subjects.

    • @AK_UK_
      @AK_UK_ 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      How are your excel and programming skills? - is programming even needed?

    • @jcn268
      @jcn268 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@lokeshtanwani3466 go to Kent or city London , you can get all 12 exceptions

    • @colinhamilton4173
      @colinhamilton4173 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I also studied through the Insitute and Faculty of Actuaries. We could also get exemption from IFoA exams if you passed the university course well enough. I’m not sure if exemptions are available in the USA?

  • @OddDreeRose444
    @OddDreeRose444 4 ปีที่แล้ว +100

    How did TH-cam know that I was wanting to go down this career path 😳

  • @Actuaryelle
    @Actuaryelle 4 ปีที่แล้ว +215

    My actuarial degree was definitely worth it 👌

    • @jchung5066
      @jchung5066 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      omg i watch ur videoooooss

    • @ShaneHummus
      @ShaneHummus  4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Nice! Subbed your channel 😊

    • @VinodYadav-mr2ix
      @VinodYadav-mr2ix 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

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      @estherwambugu1517 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

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    • @aa7352
      @aa7352 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Are you allowed to use a calculator when writing the math exams 🤣

  • @theactuarialdatascientist
    @theactuarialdatascientist 4 ปีที่แล้ว +50

    The required courses for Actuarial Science vs Statistics at my university was mostly identical. The main difference was Stats took extra courses in Statistics and Modeling where Actuarial Science took some Finance Courses and a few higher Math/Exam prep courses. I would argue that we had an extremely similar education, but to the outside world, a Stats degree looks far more flexible but Actuaries know that Statistics applies to Actuarial Science. I went to switch to Actuarial Science and my advisor mentioned this, glad I stuck it out with a Statistics degree!

  • @bikeshike
    @bikeshike 4 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    I tried ACET [Actuarial Common Entrance Test] for IAI {institute of Actuaries of India}, trust me these exams are actually tough. think twice before entering into this field

    • @ShaneHummus
      @ShaneHummus  4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Thanks for sharing that

    • @marlenarteaga2154
      @marlenarteaga2154 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Do you have to take that exam in the states or is it just in India?

    • @chrisreynolds6391
      @chrisreynolds6391 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@marlenarteaga2154 lol that would be insane if they made Indians fly to the US to take the US test.

    • @marlenarteaga2154
      @marlenarteaga2154 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@chrisreynolds6391 that’s not what I was asking. Do you have to take the exam in the United States or is that exam only given to people in India to qualify for an actuarial degree

    • @chrisreynolds6391
      @chrisreynolds6391 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@marlenarteaga2154 sorry bout that I'm just playing around.
      I think the risk profile for India is entirely different from the US.
      Health & Safety cost/risk in the US is relatively high, whereas our currency is relatively stable so it's a totally different risk landscape.
      India has it's own unique risks.
      But I'm sure both countries exams have plenty of really hard math.

  • @kayydee24jhg
    @kayydee24jhg 4 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    I've been thinking forever about taking thee actuary route! Been following your vids for the past few months, love thee content. Thanks soo much for posting.

    • @ShaneHummus
      @ShaneHummus  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Awesome! Thank you!

  • @yout872
    @yout872 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    As an actuary I can tell you about it a bit more specifically. So it is a really hard major (I think the hardest or the second hardest after theoretical physics ) , you can pass the tests if you try enough and expect failing, salary that’s presented in the video is not very representative of what I’ve had or what people have had , so you start with 75-80 k according to my experience, without passing the exams yet. The maths that is really used in actuary is probabilities and not statistics. Another thing is flexibility, I do think our education is really flexible (at the same time specific on various elements) from my experience, actuaries tend to be better in general maths than mathematicians (I don’t know why ) in fact I have many friends who quit actuary to join maths (because actuary is really hard ) and get A s in maths while we got c’s in actuary so I do think maths is fairly easier in comparison to ACT. Another thing , I don’t think that an actuary would ever be in a position of telling a programmer what to do or provide him with an algorithm so the programmer code it as actuaries are usually strong in coding themselves and we build our own AI’s (my masters were in AI) that are basically gonna replace us in the far future

    • @abdulmajid7121
      @abdulmajid7121 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      While AI is indeed transforming many fields, including actuarial science, I believe it will more likely enhance the work actuaries do rather than replace them entirely. AI can automate data processing, pattern recognition, and even predictive modeling, but it still lacks the human judgment, ethics, and deep understanding of complex financial and regulatory systems that actuaries bring to the table. In the far future, AI may be a powerful tool in the actuary's toolkit, but the need for skilled professionals to interpret results, make decisions, and provide strategic advice will remain crucial. So, rather than replacing actuaries, AI will likely shift the role, making it more focused on high-level decision-making, problem-solving, and integrating AI tools with human expertise.

    • @hoatanky3926
      @hoatanky3926 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I’m an international student and planning to pursue master in Applied statistics and find internship as actuary. Can you give me some advice? People always says thay Ai is going to replace actuaries soon so i dont know if it is worth it to go this route?

  • @effronschannel8595
    @effronschannel8595 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Thank you Shane, this video just gave me more courage. I took a breather from this course, that is, Actuarial Science. I plan on getting done by next year God wiling. In the mean time, I'm in an Internship @Sematime Ltd, Kenya, learning and mastering Java. God Bless You Shane and may this channel grow 1000 folds.

    • @ShaneHummus
      @ShaneHummus  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks Effron. Wish you luck!

  • @Sam-xq2bn
    @Sam-xq2bn 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I disagree with the idea that an actuary is niche job and can only become an actuary. I live in a city that has a ton of insurance headquarters and they love to hire actuaries that end up doing computer science and big project work. They start out very high up and move through the ranks very quickly. This is because actuary science degrees are so well respected that employers will hire you to do any work because they know that you are extremely smart.

  • @jms974
    @jms974 4 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    As an actuary I can tell you that you don't need an actuarial science degree to become one. Ive seen people with degrees like physics, chemistry, even humanities. You just need to pass the exams and have a bachelors degree in anything. That being said, having a bachelors degree in a quantitative subject naturally would help prepare you for the exams which are obviously highly mathematical in nature. I would not recommend the actuarial science degree in case you decide you want to pursue something else. You dont want to pigeonhole your options.

    • @ShaneHummus
      @ShaneHummus  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thanks for sharing your views

    • @carolinac4406
      @carolinac4406 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      How do you recommend studying for the exam? Science degree here chemistry and biology.

    • @jms974
      @jms974 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@carolinac4406 for the preliminary exams (P, FM, IFM), coaching actuaries is the way to go. Get a coaching actuaries subscription and grind adapt until you get your earned level up to at least 7. Come test day you should be good to go. After the preliminary exams is where it gets tough. I would recommend a combination of a TIA (the infinite actuary) subscription plus a thorough reading of the source material (textbooks that the exam syllabi reference). Upper level exams are notorious for testing relatively pedantic material from the source textbooks which is why taking a look at the source material is a good idea for the upper level exams. Feel free to ask more questions about exams or the profession if interested.

    • @jms974
      @jms974 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      With a chemistry background you should have the math background to start grinding exam P if you haven't already started doing so.

    • @carolinac4406
      @carolinac4406 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jms974 Thank you for taking the time to respond to my message and all the information provided. At the moment I am looking to transition from my Physician Assistant career into a non medical role. Currently, exploring all careers and definitely keeping an open mind. I love numbers, math, being able to predict outcomes, improve metrics while creating algorithms to maintain scores, and yet a researcher at heart. As of now how many exams have you taken? What has your experience been like in your career? How often do you take exams? Any additional info would be greatly appreciated.

  • @pauljackson2473
    @pauljackson2473 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    You were totally correct about the difference between getting an Actuarial Science degree and getting a math degree with AS electives. It’s better to get the math degree. It leaves other options available. The AS degree is too specific.

    • @ShaneHummus
      @ShaneHummus  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Right

    • @kemiakinyemi1
      @kemiakinyemi1 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Or you can double major. You may need just four to five additional courses to get a dual degree in both Math and Act Sci.

    • @pauljackson2473
      @pauljackson2473 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@kemiakinyemi1 But Why? When the Math degree with AS electives accomplishes the same thing as the AS major.

  • @Fakhar-t3c
    @Fakhar-t3c 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Making 758K as an actuary straight out of college with a 4 month holiday PTO. I'm living the dream

    • @Roamox124
      @Roamox124 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      What country and state?!

    • @colemcarthur7944
      @colemcarthur7944 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Where’d you graduate from?

    • @buddybrick
      @buddybrick 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      No way, lier

    • @Abo_Bsta
      @Abo_Bsta 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That's literally impossible

  • @proasf9497
    @proasf9497 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Thanks for making this video bro! You covered some really important points about an actuarial science degree.

  • @spicytuna64
    @spicytuna64 4 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    I'm currently getting my master's in actuarial science, and i'm also taking exams right now. I definitely agree with your comments on the degree. I'd say the biggest drawback of the degree is that it's super specific. You really don't need this degree to become an actuary; you can take any major you'd like, as long as you can pass exams. On the flip side, from my experience in the job search, the act. sci. degree is actually more flexible and portable than people give it credit for -- many employers would treat it as equivalent to a math/stats/finance degree.

    • @ShaneHummus
      @ShaneHummus  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Best of luck Jordan

  • @wnyskillz8522
    @wnyskillz8522 4 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    Can you talk to us about your own past, ie. your goals, school, college, job, etc? Unless you don't wanna share of course lol.. I love ur vids

    • @ShaneHummus
      @ShaneHummus  4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Maybe in the future. Stay tuned for that

    • @starz2020
      @starz2020 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ShaneHummus yes..i can't wait to listen to your experience.....

  • @The_Original_Hybrid
    @The_Original_Hybrid 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Honestly, judging by almost all of the comments in r/actuary, this is an incredibly boring (although stable and high paying) career for anybody even remotely interested in mathematics.
    According to most actuaries, the most maths you'll ever see is when you're taking the exams.

    • @jms974
      @jms974 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes the exams are the only places where you will actually do math but knowing the math will make you understand the big picture behind what you are doing.

    • @The_Original_Hybrid
      @The_Original_Hybrid 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@jms974 Okay. That doesn't change the fact that it's a boring profession.

    • @jms974
      @jms974 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@The_Original_Hybrid that's subjective. Either way most jobs are boring thats why its called work. No one pays you for having fun.

    • @The_Original_Hybrid
      @The_Original_Hybrid 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@jms974 Right, but my comment is with regard to people who enjoy mathematics and would like a career in which mathematics is used.

  • @bruhmomentb2977
    @bruhmomentb2977 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Love your channel. I’m an actuarial science major freshman.

  • @slenny2453
    @slenny2453 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I think if you enjoy math actuary is a FANTASTIC career, it's well paid and extremely easy to pick up a job. But I do think actuarial science is a bad choice. I was speaking to risk analyst (works closely with actuarys) and he said they tend to hire people with degrees in physics/math other an actuarial science degree, also if you ever get sick of being an actuary with those degrees you can also be many other things like a software engineer or physical scientist🤷‍♂️

    • @ShaneHummus
      @ShaneHummus  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Good point! Thanks for sharing your thoughts

  • @doglover8178
    @doglover8178 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    My favorite channel is having a 30 day challenge, I'm challening my self to watch all 30 videos.

  • @isabelduenas-ponce305
    @isabelduenas-ponce305 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    You should do more videos about majors that use a lot of math, like actuary. I love math so much ❤️🔢

    • @ShaneHummus
      @ShaneHummus  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Noted Isabel.. I got more coming

  • @matthewmckinnon9298
    @matthewmckinnon9298 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    At least at my university, the actuarial courses are considered easier than the math courses for a math major. I am about to graduate and only took Calculus I and II. I didn't need to take linear algebra or anything else (even though it would have been beneficial). At least in my experience, there are a lot of actuarial students who like the statistics side more than the math side. So if I didn't get a degree in actuarial science it would definitely be in statistics.

    • @ShaneHummus
      @ShaneHummus  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for sharing that Matthew

  • @hunterstanek5865
    @hunterstanek5865 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Yessss I’ve been waiting for this!! Keep up the great work man.

  • @solidsnake4022
    @solidsnake4022 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Of course it is. But not required to be an actuary. To be an actuary the person needs to pass exams. So to be an actuary it doesn't matter what the degree is on as long as you can pass the exams. On the other hand, to be a registered nurse, you need to major in nursing and nothing else.

    • @oldmoney1022
      @oldmoney1022 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Don't jobs require a related degree to become an actuary though?

  • @adamharoon6021
    @adamharoon6021 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I have been waiting for this video. Glad to see you've finally made it!

  • @AndrewMoMoney
    @AndrewMoMoney 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Let's do this 30 day challenge together. I shouted you out in my Day 1 of the challenge video yesterday :)

    • @ShaneHummus
      @ShaneHummus  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Sounds great! let me check that out

  • @marksmith4892
    @marksmith4892 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Hey Shane I just thought of a new career you have never talked about. Technically, it's in finance but not really. Have you ever heard of Quantitative Finance aka Mathematical Finance? These are the people at large banks (both the Investment and Commercial sides) who price derivatives. In other words, they find ways to adjust the Black Scholes Theorem to better predict where the price of an underlying asset in a derivative will go and thus more accurately determine the value of a derivative. In the world of finance, they are called "Rocket Scientists" or "Quants" yet they were not well respected several decades ago, but times have changed and now they are at the center of everything. However, this career is DEFINITELY not for the faint of heart because ironically banks seek for these positions not people with finance degrees but rather (you'll like this) PHYSICS degrees at the doctoral level. Also stats or econometrics ph.ds and math ph.ds are desired. However many positions that are somewhat less lucrative also seek those who acquire Masters degrees in Quantitative Finance. Check it out, and you might read the book My Life As A Quant by Emmanuel Derman which is a good read on this esoteric profession for anyone including laymen. In case you're wondering, Physics ph.ds are not desired because they're "smart"; it's because the right kind of math courses are required to fulfill physics ph.d requirements and a math ph.d might or might not possess the right math courses that are at the core of what a Quant does. The "Physics" route takes a person through partial differential equations, stochastic diff. eq.'s, stochastic calculus, and some other courses that consist of one way to price derivatives, but there's an alternative way, which is through statistics and that's why stats/econometrics ph.ds are universally accepted for Quant jobs.

    • @ShaneHummus
      @ShaneHummus  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hey Mark! Thanks for sharing your thoughts. I might cover that in the future

  • @handleyobusiness
    @handleyobusiness 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Great video, happy I hit the like button! Science, math, and trades are the only reasons I went to college.

  • @Boszziuryayok
    @Boszziuryayok 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    There's this one guy on YT (forgot his channel @) but he double majored in Actuarial Science and Mathematics. It's probably the best idea for someone really into math and trying to be an actuary... other than that I could imagine a more business-minded person might couple Actuarial Science with Accounting, Econ, or Management and someone technically minded might do it with Comp. Sci. or Stats (stats really converging with Comp. Sci. nowadays after all)

    • @ShaneHummus
      @ShaneHummus  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for sharing that

  • @jacobhall4655
    @jacobhall4655 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Hello! I'm a student currently studying to become an actuary. One thing I'd like to clear up is that most companies that you'd end up working for as an actuary, like insurance companies, give actuaries a payed day home every week to study for the exams, so it's not as crazy as studying for a super hard test on top of a 40 hour work week, it's just getting paid to study for a super hard test on top of a 32 hour work week. Also, idk if this is the way it is for other schools, but my university offers actuarial science as a concentration for math majors, like how pure math, teaching, statistics, and applied are also concentrations within the major, and there is a set of classes that every math major has to take regardless of their concentration, so we would still have all the skills a normal math major has. Hopefully that clears up the cons about not learning all of the skills a normal math major would and the point about the 40 hour work week.

    • @ShaneHummus
      @ShaneHummus  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for sharing that Jacob

  • @jahhaj1020
    @jahhaj1020 4 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    Can you do a "Is a statistics degree worth it?"

    • @ShaneHummus
      @ShaneHummus  4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Yup! Coming soon Naasik

    • @jahhaj1020
      @jahhaj1020 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@worldwiderecords9220 yeah I've been considering switching to that or math

    • @jahhaj1020
      @jahhaj1020 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@worldwiderecords9220 comp sci

    • @jahhaj1020
      @jahhaj1020 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@worldwiderecords9220 agreed, but personally i wanna switch because I'm just not enjoying CS anymore

    • @jahhaj1020
      @jahhaj1020 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@worldwiderecords9220 yeah for sure, for me I've been looking more into stats cuz i wanna get a job in data science

  • @TheWealthPrince
    @TheWealthPrince 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Touched the like button for the algorithm :)

  • @bernardomarques8737
    @bernardomarques8737 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I’m shocked at the satisfaction score. I’m currently on my 3rd year on the job and looking for a career change because the job is dreadfully boring. I was probably not interested enough to begin with though. But to other actuaries out there, do you enjoy your job? Does it satisfy you? Curious to see what you think of the job/career.

    • @kylesegal642
      @kylesegal642 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I think its higher because the people doing it know what they’re getting into. It’s specific and you do what studied after in general

  • @jeoboden
    @jeoboden 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I've heard from people mid-career that the industry is hard to break into but my friend got offers from almost everywhere he applied and ended up taking Deloitte at 100k +16k signing if he passes his fourth test (graduating next year).

    • @ShaneHummus
      @ShaneHummus  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Great! Thanks for sharing that Henry

    • @marksmith4892
      @marksmith4892 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ShaneHummus What Henry isn't telling you (or might just not be aware of), however, is that Deloitte is a consulting firm. Consulting actuaries work like 60 hours a week and are provided very few office study hours and because the customers are TOP priority, they rarely get to actually use those study hours. But the tradeoff is, 100k starting lol. Of course that too might be less than meets the eye if it is in a high cost of living area like chicago or nyc. However I will say that you gain valuable experience at a consulting firm at warp speed so it's a good way to advance your career for a while and then go get a much slower pace actuary job elsewhere and start cranking out exams. tradeoffs, tradeoffs. Life is all about tradeoffs.

    • @jchung5066
      @jchung5066 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@marksmith4892 exactly, i heard consultants work 12+ hours plus travel and they are mostly stationed where the clients are which means they're basically living in a suitcase

    • @marksmith4892
      @marksmith4892 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jchung5066 some level of travel is common to all actuarial consulting jobs yup however the amount of travel depends on the company. At Deloitte, I would predict a lot of travel. At PwC, they told me ~40% of the time. So it all depends. But again if you're willing to put up with that, then you make a lot more than the standard actuary job so they do compensate you for it.

    • @adrien8572
      @adrien8572 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@marksmith4892 In France, Deloitte hire actuaries but you will not have the work of an actuary. They do not provide consulting in actuarial science. They actually provide audit. Concerning the amount of hours spent to work i can confirm that, it's pretty big. The advantage in France it's that you only have to do a master degree in 5 years and then you can be recognized by the french organization of actuaries. You don't have any exams to take after so you can focus on your job.

  • @sporadic45
    @sporadic45 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I think your con of the degree being too niche is not quite there. Most actuary degree paths I've seen, including mine, is a math degree then a focus on actuarial math which is usually only a few extra stats/finance classes on top of the math degree. Overall great explanation

    • @ShaneHummus
      @ShaneHummus  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for sharing your thoughts

  • @samwehner8808
    @samwehner8808 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Lower 25 percentile | Median | Upper 25 percentile
    Actuary 10-year salary: $84,000 | $110,000 | $150,000
    Software Engineer 10-year salary: $84,000 | $110,000 | $140,000
    Actuaries have less transferrable skills than software engineers, as well. And most actuaries don't embrace technology in their work.
    The stress of passing intense exams that never get utilized in practice over a 7 to 10 year period is also something to take into account. If you love math, don't be an actuary; you won't be using it very much.
    Actuaries will be replaced rapidly due to their lack of innovation over the past 30 years.

    • @jcn268
      @jcn268 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The demand rate for actuaries is actually increasing over the years, plus what will they get replaced by, the work they do is very distinctive to most jobs

    • @samwehner8808
      @samwehner8808 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jcn268 foundationally it's not distinct. Insurance actuaries will definitely be automated in the next decade or so. Actuaries that actually understand the mathematics underpinning their work will not be replaced. Actuaries who skirt the exams by just studying and passing "enough" and not really understanding will eventually be replaced.

    • @samwehner8808
      @samwehner8808 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jcn268 increasing demand doesn't mean those being "hire" are humans to fill that demand

  • @dackhornbold1728
    @dackhornbold1728 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Here's some math for you. Only about 1,387 people graduate with an Actuarial Science degree each year (1:12) and from 2019-2029 the employment change in Actuarial Science is expected to increase by 4,900 jobs or approximately 490 per year (4:46). So there are 1,387 people competing for 490 jobs each year so your probability of getting an entry level actuary job is at most about 35%. Once you realize that anybody with any bachelor's degree can become an actuary you can see why there is so much competition in the entry level actuary market right now. I know it is a very simple analysis but I know from personal experience, I have passed 4 of the 10 exams and still can't get a job.

    • @jms974
      @jms974 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yep. As a current actuary I hate when people make it seem like passing 2 exams and having a degree is all you need to find a job. Maybe 10-20 years ago. I graduated from an ivy league school with a few exams but no internship. Had to enroll in a masters program just to give myself another shot at an internship. Only afterwards did I start getting interviews for full time offers and then eventually my current job now. Def a great career but only after you find a job and then pass all the exams.

  • @jchung5066
    @jchung5066 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    u know at first I wanted to take actuarial science in college but the counselor told me that it was smarter if I took mathematics and majored in statistics instead so there's more room for change in the future. anyways, there's two career paths for me to go, be a data analyst or become an actuary... which is basically almost the same thing

    • @ShaneHummus
      @ShaneHummus  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks for sharing that Allen. Good luck!

    • @marksmith4892
      @marksmith4892 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Your counselor was basically right and one thing he probably wouldn't know is that actuaries often have less respect for applicants who are act. sci. majors because they feel that the exam material was spoon-fed to the student.

  • @msanonymous93
    @msanonymous93 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I’m studying computer science but also working on becoming an actuary

    • @ShaneHummus
      @ShaneHummus  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That's great. Good luck

  • @alexisyuren5606
    @alexisyuren5606 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    We will be with you all the way til the 30th day!

  • @OrdinaryArgentinian
    @OrdinaryArgentinian 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Ah yes "Actuario" has the reputation of being the hardest economics/mathematics career in the UBA (University of Buenos Aires)

  • @kevinpack3373
    @kevinpack3373 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Can you change it up a little and talk about a sports degree like sports management, sports medicine or athletic training.

  • @ethanbates3484
    @ethanbates3484 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Can you do a video on Pharmacy as a career? I know you showed your degree and you did talk about pharmacy during the health degree video but I’d like to see a full video. There are videos by PharmD’s on TH-cam talking about how the job market is going down the tubes and the tripling of schools is oversaturating the market. Not to mention the threat of automation. Also, BLS for pharmacy updated in September with a negative growth rate. It seems like pharmacy as a career is doom and gloom so it would be great to hear your thoughts.

    • @ShaneHummus
      @ShaneHummus  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Noted Ethan. Maybe in the future

  • @charlesj7748
    @charlesj7748 ปีที่แล้ว

    Actuarial science is a math degree where you take statistics and probability courses. At the school I went to the only difference in math courses is straight math majors took abstract algebra and advanced calculus.

  • @asael3707
    @asael3707 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This video helped me a lot, thanks for sharing it

  • @jjackomin
    @jjackomin ปีที่แล้ว

    It's not necessary, but it does fast track you to make a lot of money. I was an actuary for 25+ and I made good money, but I didn't follow a Actuarial Science track. It is VERY DIFFICULT.

  • @fangzhoushao5404
    @fangzhoushao5404 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love these videos! Please make one on Political Science, or one of the less well-paying majors. I think people who graduate from those majors are a lot less sure of the jobs they'd get, so it will help a lot more.

  • @anthonytesla8382
    @anthonytesla8382 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The only reason why you'd pursue an actuarial science degree is to get board exam exemptions. But apart from that, you're actually better off doing a degree in statistics and applied mathematics.

  • @sirfletch9802
    @sirfletch9802 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have an actuarial degree and used to work in actuarial consulting firm. Now I am a mathematician for a gaming development company.

    • @albertrilley3341
      @albertrilley3341 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      So being a Mathematician can make you work in a gaming company?

    • @sirfletch9802
      @sirfletch9802 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@albertrilley3341 yes particularly for casino games since it requires calculations of probabilities

    • @jms974
      @jms974 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Do you get paid more there? I'm an actuary as well always thought it would be cool to be part of the team that makes a game.

  • @nicolasleblanc5722
    @nicolasleblanc5722 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    As an actuary, I'm very sceptical about your stat that only 1,387 people graduate from an actuarial science degree every year. Where did you get this information? From my university alone, hundreds of students graduate with this degree every year.

  • @grantgibson1858
    @grantgibson1858 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Awesome video, big agree as a student studying Actuarial Science!
    Quick question though, what’s that outro song?

  • @MatCo774
    @MatCo774 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Thanks for the video, Shane, I'm into an Actuarial Sciences degree now

  • @sethkeele8855
    @sethkeele8855 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I’m majoring in Economics with a minor in Math and a Certificate in Actuarial Science

  • @davidlakhter
    @davidlakhter 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Day one, here we go!

  • @ChinderElla
    @ChinderElla 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi, here researching as I am considering to change my program of study

  • @DataHotep
    @DataHotep 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    From my statistics background I know that most of the actuaries I know took the exam and got the certification (with a stats degree of course).

  • @gallantshang6478
    @gallantshang6478 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love this account thank you so much for your insight!

  • @Jesus_777.2
    @Jesus_777.2 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Omg omg omg, I love this I am about to chance mayors to actuarial science and this really comes in handy, live your videos!

  • @matthewlonnon5662
    @matthewlonnon5662 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    If you have a math or stats degree taking actuarial science classes isn’t necessary at all. Just pass 1-2 actuarial exams and you can get a job.

    • @jms974
      @jms974 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Plus an internship then yes

  • @calvinmichael1242
    @calvinmichael1242 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hey Shane, I really enjoy your videos, keep researching my friend; I am sure we all appreciate it greatly.
    Stay safe, and take care :D

    • @ShaneHummus
      @ShaneHummus  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you Calvin, You too

  • @thetheoryofinterest7051
    @thetheoryofinterest7051 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice video, but as someone who teaches in an actuarial science program, I don't really agree with the claim that an actuarial science degree is inflexible.
    In general, you really need to know so much basic finance, business IT, economics, mathematics, statistics, and probability, that there isn't even time to do all that many "actuary specific" courses (and the two "prelim" exams, P and FM, really just test very basic probability and mathematical finance, and thus to me aren't very actuary specific. )
    In fact, in our program we only really offer two actuary specific courses (on long term actuarial mathematics, ie prep for the SOA LTAM exam.) My point is that this why I think an actuarial degree is such a good idea if you are excellent in mathematics and like business! Plus, if you take exam P/FM and realize you can't pass or this just isn't for you, then you still possess a ton of GENERAL useful business/quantitative skills!
    Now, if you decide you really want to do something in the engineering/science realm, well then yea good luck, and you'll need to learn a TON of stuff (we obviously don't teach PDEs and Fourier analysis and such in any actuarial science degree courses...)

    • @soakohaji8009
      @soakohaji8009 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      We had about fourier analysis on the actuarial program in denmark.

    • @thetheoryofinterest7051
      @thetheoryofinterest7051 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@soakohaji8009 I stand corrected! How was this applied to actuarial science?

    • @soakohaji8009
      @soakohaji8009 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@thetheoryofinterest7051 It was a compulsory math course called analysis 1. kurser.ku.dk/course/nmaa04016u
      I remember once that we had refer back to it, in the coming courses. But I cannot remember in which context. But it was ofcourse not directly applied to actuarial theory.

  • @aoigren4526
    @aoigren4526 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love watching your vids, any insights about agricultural biotechnology?

    • @ShaneHummus
      @ShaneHummus  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I might cover that in the future

  • @andersoncosta4770
    @andersoncosta4770 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    That's a though one 👊. Shane just started the Finish 2020 Strong with math...I know that math has its reason to exist, and can be even beautiful but the risks involved if things doesn't work so well in a so closed career like that are to high for me, I think I would go crazy and starts to see mathematical problems everywhere... Just like the way my brain started to count after the moment I've started to practice music with a click track to improve my skills... and now I'm listening to patterns everywhere... 🤦‍♂️😂

  • @ofeliiabagratian5748
    @ofeliiabagratian5748 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi Shane, why don't you ever include any data about contractors vs full-time employees or is there even such a thing in the USA? In EU contractors (limited-time contracts, can be for several years for example) people usually get a lot more money than full-time - technically this means life-time in EU. For example, the salary can be 50k a year for a lifetime contract plus all benefits, including Maternity or Paternity leave, payments in case of getting fired and etc. However, if the person does not want the life-time contract, no maternity leave coverage and etc, for the same 50k job he/she can get 80k-90k per year, and for many industries, this is what people choose to do.

    • @ofeliiabagratian5748
      @ofeliiabagratian5748 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I just googled and found out that in US Maternity and Paternity leave is unpaid?!?! I am quite shocked, how do people have children?!

    • @ShaneHummus
      @ShaneHummus  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks for sharing that Ofeliia, I might talk about that in the future

  • @Moneybagggs
    @Moneybagggs 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Deciding whether to continue my actsci degree onto year 2 or not as we speak 👀

  • @ayansinha4039
    @ayansinha4039 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    In India, actuary profession is somewhat different. My sister is qualified actuary, but in here most finance decisions taken by Chartered Accountants, MBA Finance and Engineers.
    Payscale somewhat not great compared same level other professions here

    • @ShaneHummus
      @ShaneHummus  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for sharing that Ayan

  • @fikilemkhize5776
    @fikilemkhize5776 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Another con is that exams are expensive, unless u have a the company u work is sponsoring u or u have a bursary

  • @thespiderexterminator2683
    @thespiderexterminator2683 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    2 days down, 28 to go.. Keep up the good work Shane.

  • @rajnisingh4777
    @rajnisingh4777 หลายเดือนก่อน

    My PCM background but in graduation humanities should I do actuarial science because I want to be an actuary

  • @jjackomin
    @jjackomin ปีที่แล้ว

    Great career, but it can be be very difficult if you're not good with math.

  • @tolgabingol2128
    @tolgabingol2128 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Hey man! Could you talk about online degrees and which ones are worth it which ones are not worth it? (you might remember me as the econ guy who wants to do online menagment information systems degree as well)

    • @ShaneHummus
      @ShaneHummus  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Hey man! Yeah I remember. Stay tuned for that video.

    • @Kanal7Indonesia
      @Kanal7Indonesia 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ShaneHummus is an online MBA degree worth it?

  • @johnsnow94
    @johnsnow94 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    exam bellow 50%? that is great, you have higher chances of passing the exams than finishing an engineering program.

  • @hanjieli1903
    @hanjieli1903 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Gently obliterated the like button

    • @ShaneHummus
      @ShaneHummus  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Keep doing that 😁

  • @jeoboden
    @jeoboden 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    One question I always have is how there are 1300 graduates per year but only 5k jobs in next 10 years...isnt that oversupply?

    • @ShaneHummus
      @ShaneHummus  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I might make a follow up video explaining over saturation

    • @jeoboden
      @jeoboden 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ShaneHummus Thanks, the point system is a good idea too. The specific thing I am looking for is where do all the extras go? underemployment/housewife? Because it seems like most fields are oversaturated, even the in demand ones

  • @Lazymath007_
    @Lazymath007_ 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    When are you doing "is a marketing degree worth it" 😤😤😤

    • @ShaneHummus
      @ShaneHummus  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      believe me it's coming real soon

    • @DavDaJa
      @DavDaJa 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Might save you some time. Unless you plan on going for your Ph. D., it's generally not. Learn accounting, finance, MIS, or SCM and then find you a marketing job if you want. But at least this way you start by earning a respectable salary if you want one instead of going into marketing. I'm not attacking marketing. This is just the situation too many of my friends found themselves in. I've learned more about marketing outside of school by working, even though both my undergrad and master's are in accounting

    • @Lazymath007_
      @Lazymath007_ 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@DavDaJa that's what I thought but they said for marketing jobs, most of them at least require a bachelor's degree 😔😔. Besides, I know the starting salaries of marketing are bad but as you climb higher the positions seem pretty attractive and you earn pretty well. Although I will take you words into account and probably try a double major or something. Thank you for the advice!

  • @praatyush2615
    @praatyush2615 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I am planning to major in CS with minors in actuarial mathematics and business analysis. Is it a good combination? Please suggest some job ideas. Thanks

  • @hornetguy9063
    @hornetguy9063 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wonder if the comment thread from one of your recent videos that I started inspired this one!

  • @matiasdel56
    @matiasdel56 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I will study an actuary degree at the University of Buenos Aires.
    The best university in Argentina.
    World Number 66 (2020 QS Ranking)
    The University of Buenos Aires is a PUBLIC university.

  • @Kanal7Indonesia
    @Kanal7Indonesia 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Aren't actuarial insurance underwriters getting automated?

    • @ShaneHummus
      @ShaneHummus  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      That could be a future topic

    • @Kanal7Indonesia
      @Kanal7Indonesia 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ShaneHummus Shane you said that in the automated jobs video 😂

    • @bruhmomentb2977
      @bruhmomentb2977 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Actuaries and underwriters are diff jobs. It’s rlly hard to automate actual actuary jobs cuz it requires lot of human decision making

    • @Kanal7Indonesia
      @Kanal7Indonesia 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@bruhmomentb2977 wait I work for an insurance company as an IT didn't underwriters study actuarial science (insurance) ?

    • @bruhmomentb2977
      @bruhmomentb2977 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Kanal7Indonesia actuaries and underwriters are diff proffessions. Underwriters have very high automation potential because it’s just a calculator type job. It’s hard to automate actuarial jobs because actuaries use data and based on this they have to evaluate a insurance companies premiums. It’s a lot of brain work that cannot be fully automated since you cannot automate human thinking. As an actuary if you have programming skills your very hirable and more automation proof.

  • @chillguy429
    @chillguy429 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Can you share more about your college experience and journey from high school to college? That would be a great video

    • @ShaneHummus
      @ShaneHummus  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Maybe some time in the future

  • @jack-ui7dk
    @jack-ui7dk 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I am looking to study Actuarial science at university, for my A levels I have chosen, Economics, Geography, Maths and Further Maths. Do you think these A-Levels are suitable or should i consider taking out Geography

  • @willsong1317
    @willsong1317 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks! now I know Actuarial Science is worth it.

  • @shubhamkothari5977
    @shubhamkothari5977 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Sir, I would like to know how many years did it take for u to complete ur graduation and being a commerce student( with statistics) and having a strong basis of statistics and mathematics, do you think I should take up this degree?

  • @jackchung8203
    @jackchung8203 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Shane, could you please do a video about high paying jobs in renewable energy, water purification, air. :) appreciate you!

  • @marshalmashiat
    @marshalmashiat ปีที่แล้ว

    Checked right now. 52% chance of getting automated.

    • @BackwardsR3LLIK
      @BackwardsR3LLIK ปีที่แล้ว

      Same thing i noticed. Especially with chat gpt lol. This makes me wonder if it's something i should get into.

  • @blakecarberry5032
    @blakecarberry5032 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Can you do a 'is an earth science major worth it'?

  • @mrchess24
    @mrchess24 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    when are you doing is a supply chain management degree worth it and is a business administration degree worth it? Thanks!!

  • @marlenarteaga2154
    @marlenarteaga2154 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can you do one on a medical physicist? It’s really hard to find any information on this career field

  • @powersale5898
    @powersale5898 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    wow i literally asked 2 days ago its already out? I feel like a MVP lmao

    • @ShaneHummus
      @ShaneHummus  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Haha thanks for the idea

  • @soakohaji8009
    @soakohaji8009 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    In Denmark, there are no exams to take. Only Bachelor''s degree and Master's degree. Once you are done, you are cand.act. Do anyone know if I will be considered an actuary in the U.S if I am so in Denmark?

    • @ShaneHummus
      @ShaneHummus  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Stay tuned I might discuss that

  • @supersonicstyleatsonicspeed
    @supersonicstyleatsonicspeed 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Next do is a creative writing degree worth it?

  • @LM-he7eb
    @LM-he7eb 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    It is easily the most "worth it" degree in the world. But, getting to the "actuary" title is a long road

  • @nitikaagarwal1958
    @nitikaagarwal1958 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Kindly help me with best coaching available for actuarial exams

  • @miamitchell7126
    @miamitchell7126 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So if I were to major in acturial science, would it be a good idea to minor in accounting or finance?

  • @tondiramabulana6306
    @tondiramabulana6306 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My daily dose of eye-candy is heree!😋

  • @upbeat6639
    @upbeat6639 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Have you covered natural sciences? Cool video tho

    • @ShaneHummus
      @ShaneHummus  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Science Degree Tier List (Science Majors Ranked)
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