Another option is to adjust the track delay by -40ms - this is not only useful for keeping time, but also keep the intended nuance of each sample. No need to splice or slide the audio around, nor the need to adjust and save the settings in Kontakt. Treat it like any latency issue. Nice video dude!
Haha I came here expecting him to suggest this. I'm pretty amused he instead resorted to the suboptimal solution when this intentional feature was already accounted for decades ago by DAW manufacturers so you can have a realistic sequence.
Though I recall the '96 version of Cubase for the Macintosh had a similar timing compensation parameter, even 80s hardware like the Linn 9000 had controls for timing. It's always been a distinguishing feature of sequencers, and one of the reasons why "tight" dance mixes were enabled in the first place. It's certainly not something you would offload to a dedicated source if you can help it. (Especially when it's working as intended.)@@ohdearism
@@voilabolognessich423 '91 Cubase, Atari 520ST with a 2mb upgrade had it, so I would guess so. I even think C-Lab Notator had delay compensation if I recall correctly. Synced to 2" tape via SMPTE. 30 mins loading a song into your S1000s off mountains of floppies. There's a Monty Python sketch in there somewhere! What we have today though, with pretty much every DAW - Blimey! We're very lucky thanks to amazing developers.
Thanks for posting this. In spite of the amazing sound I'd kindof given up on Scarbee years ago as a live VST for exactly this reason. Looking forward to falling in love w/ this plugin again!
Had a similar issue with Shreddage 3 Precision which has its own notes offset logic that mess timing. And the same, you need to dig into the manual/settings to find how to fix it. Seems like a bad design decision, they should at least let user know how to control this upfront in one way or another, not just bury it silently somewhere in the plugin.
Aw maan. I was tracking this with a tight palm-muted metal riff. No wonder it sounded off! Great video. The sound effects are nice touch, and tastefully done.
This is normal behaviour of many libaries. practly every strings/orchestra one, and all of those libraries has info about how much negative delay should you add do track. And Mister Scarbee recommends value of -33 in kvr forum
@@neththom999 long story short. a most of instruments has some version of sound that is coming before note, sounds start "before". thing about like flute or strings. so it starts before. So this negative delay is because of this, so virtual player will know that he will be playing. Any realistic instrument samplet that isnt like percussion or keyboard will have some form of it, some more delay some less. You can search public document called "virtual Instrument Track Delays" that is hosted on google docs. to see how different libraries have different value and often different for different articulation.
Is there a way to lower the sustain on this vst? When I hold a note, it takes to long to fade out, the sustain is too long. I’d like to adjust it shorter. Any way?
There doesn't appear to be a parameter for sustain. However higher velocity notes fade quicker. You could try increasing velocity and reducing volume to compensate. Sorry that's the simplest solution I can come up with
Thanks. Well its also a “scientific” obsession to be honest. I wanted to solve this impossible issue in a way that would both fix timing and phase at the same time. We gave up many times… but I could not leave it.😅
Thanks. Well its also a “scientific” obsession to be honest. I wanted to solve this impossible issue in a way that would both fix timing and phase at the same time. We gave up many times… but I could not leave it.😅
Has anyone had trouble with the tone of the bass changing? I load up a preset and it sounds natural, but then it will randomly change to this very robotic twangy style. It's the same tone settings, its just like the "Player" is striking the midi differently and it sounds really annoying and unnatural. If that makes any sense.
Another option is to adjust the track delay by -40ms - this is not only useful for keeping time, but also keep the intended nuance of each sample. No need to splice or slide the audio around, nor the need to adjust and save the settings in Kontakt. Treat it like any latency issue. Nice video dude!
Haha I came here expecting him to suggest this. I'm pretty amused he instead resorted to the suboptimal solution when this intentional feature was already accounted for decades ago by DAW manufacturers so you can have a realistic sequence.
@@voilabolognessich423 Decades ago indeed.
Though I recall the '96 version of Cubase for the Macintosh had a similar timing compensation parameter, even 80s hardware like the Linn 9000 had controls for timing. It's always been a distinguishing feature of sequencers, and one of the reasons why "tight" dance mixes were enabled in the first place. It's certainly not something you would offload to a dedicated source if you can help it. (Especially when it's working as intended.)@@ohdearism
@@voilabolognessich423 '91 Cubase, Atari 520ST with a 2mb upgrade had it, so I would guess so. I even think C-Lab Notator had delay compensation if I recall correctly. Synced to 2" tape via SMPTE. 30 mins loading a song into your S1000s off mountains of floppies. There's a Monty Python sketch in there somewhere!
What we have today though, with pretty much every DAW - Blimey! We're very lucky thanks to amazing developers.
Compensate for the delay however you like. The main purpose of this video was just to make producers aware of the Scarbee delay and why it's there.
After 15 years, a solution for this nuisance. Thanks duude!!!
Thanks for posting this. In spite of the amazing sound I'd kindof given up on Scarbee years ago as a live VST for exactly this reason. Looking forward to falling in love w/ this plugin again!
This was one of the best music tutorials I've ever seen. Thank you so much!
Fast and clear. Thank you. Really helps!
Happy to help :)
Had a similar issue with Shreddage 3 Precision which has its own notes offset logic that mess timing. And the same, you need to dig into the manual/settings to find how to fix it. Seems like a bad design decision, they should at least let user know how to control this upfront in one way or another, not just bury it silently somewhere in the plugin.
Aw maan. I was tracking this with a tight palm-muted metal riff. No wonder it sounded off! Great video. The sound effects are nice touch, and tastefully done.
This is normal behaviour of many libaries. practly every strings/orchestra one, and all of those libraries has info about how much negative delay should you add do track. And Mister Scarbee recommends value of -33 in kvr forum
-33ms? Why don't they just make it work out of the box I wonder..
@@neththom999 long story short. a most of instruments has some version of sound that is coming before note, sounds start "before". thing about like flute or strings. so it starts before. So this negative delay is because of this, so virtual player will know that he will be playing. Any realistic instrument samplet that isnt like percussion or keyboard will have some form of it, some more delay some less. You can search public document called "virtual Instrument Track Delays" that is hosted on google docs. to see how different libraries have different value and often different for different articulation.
So that’s why Scarbee Rickenbacker Bass has sometimes sounded weird and unrealistic when I used it. Thanks man, I’ll use this trick
You’re incredible dude. Love this short tip format.
Is there a way to lower the sustain on this vst? When I hold a note, it takes to long to fade out, the sustain is too long. I’d like to adjust it shorter. Any way?
There doesn't appear to be a parameter for sustain. However higher velocity notes fade quicker. You could try increasing velocity and reducing volume to compensate. Sorry that's the simplest solution I can come up with
Great tip, thank you. 🤘
I might've gotten a twofer on this one: I just remembered I had the same problem with Scarbee Clav. This just might be my lucky day.......
Love your video format and style as always!
Excellent video
Thanks for another informative vid!
helpful video, thank you!
on point as always!!!!
Hey
Our new Sun Bass deal with all this. We spend 5 years solving phase/ and time issues.
Hey Thomas, wow that's dedication! Thanks for such great instruments :)
Thanks. Well its also a “scientific” obsession to be honest. I wanted to solve this impossible issue in a way that would both fix timing and phase at the same time. We gave up many times… but I could not leave it.😅
Thanks. Well its also a “scientific” obsession to be honest. I wanted to solve this impossible issue in a way that would both fix timing and phase at the same time. We gave up many times… but I could not leave it.😅
i dont' notice delay in their J bass
Has anyone had trouble with the tone of the bass changing? I load up a preset and it sounds natural, but then it will randomly change to this very robotic twangy style. It's the same tone settings, its just like the "Player" is striking the midi differently and it sounds really annoying and unnatural. If that makes any sense.
Now that's the sauce I'm talking about.
Thank you. Now I don't sound like I'm drunk when I play.😂
Glad it was helpful :)
@@FlowProdOfficial It was thank you.
you are a god
lol thanks
I stopped using ni all together
OMG! This video help! I create an account just for Like it!
very kind of you, thanks!
on point as always!!!!