Poling out the jib - sailing downwind
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 19 ต.ค. 2011
- This training video shows you how to pole out the jib whilst sailing downwind - a technique known as Goose Winging.
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I FELT I WAS PART OF THE CLASS WATCHING FROM BEHIND AND LEARNT SO MIUCH IN THE 20 MINS
VERY WELL PRESENTED AND EXPLAINED.
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This is a superb video (despite the obvious noise issues). A singlehander, I've started using this system on my own boat and it's superior to the usual practice of running the headsail sheet directly through the pole jaw. It's safer and more flexible. Thank you, Charles.
Fantastic vid. Your a good teacher with a great tone. Controlled your crew well.
Clear, Concise Organized and Thorough.
Thanks very much - I am a liveaboard cruiser with thousands of sea miles, but this is a much better system. I like your teaching style too - far superior to the Captain bligh I had on my Yachtmaster course. Bravo.
Excellent. I learned more the second time i watched it, as i could focus on the detail.
Brilliantly explained , not a wasted word , thank you .
one of the best sailing videos, step by step explained and demonstrated , fantastic video !!!
Yes we can always improve thing but for me your clear slow precise instruction was all that I needed. Nice work.
Good video. A lot of information as I sort through if my crew and I are ready to attempt poling out the Jenny. Thank you.
Fantastic vid, exactly what I needed, clear and precise. Typically I threw out something that would have made a perfect stopper yesterday!
Nice tutorial. The best I have seen. Thank you
One of the best Training Videos ever
Very clear Instruktion, thank you very much
very good teacher. Definitely coming to you for my day skipper course once i've done my theory!
Thank you for a very clear and detailed explanation of ther use and setup of the whisker pole.
Great video - very clear and informative!
Just a marvelous video, thanks so much for your time and making it. Sir, you are just a wonderful instructor, I wish you were closer to Florida, I would certainly love to attend some of your seminars but the UK is just a bit too far to travel for lessons. Thank you again.
After reading some of the other Rude comments I have to say I like this method. I don't race so dont really care about rules. The nice thing with the separate line for the sheet is the ability to Jibe while leaving the pole in position. Sailing the Chesapeake bay we often have needed to Jib and sail beam reach for an hour or so to get clear a headland or island then return to a down wind run. I will be using this method so I dont need to go on deck . Just another method to add to my bag of knowledge . Also looks easy to setup singlehanded.
Thanks
Thanks for this. Really clear explanation of the process and safety tips
great video, and a good teacher. Thank you
Excellent video, thanks!
Great video, will use this knowledge!
Excellent video. I would just add a few things that the rubber stopper they do sell at west marine by the shackles and lifelines section. That huge trigger style shackle probably costs a fortune. You could run that extra line with rubber stoper and just a normal bowline to clew ahead of the rubber stopper to save money. Also technically a guy is not a sheet. A line that holds the pole from going forward or back those are the ones called guys. (Just like for an antenna theyre called guys) the line with the rubber stopper is just a new genoa sheet but I might be wrong. Also you can run a line forward from end of pole to keep the pole off the shroud. Important because that can scratch your pole and can snap your pole also if it hits the shroud such as if uou didnt realize it hit the shroud and kept sheeting in. Also the downhaul would ideally be right at the mast so it’s tension doesnt change as the pole is adjusted forward or back. (Just like a vang is on deck right at the mast. So it can rotate and stay constant length, angle, tension.) people comment as if this is some new invention this is just the technically correct way to use a pole. Use a topping lift and downhaul, forward and aft guys to hold in place. For poles that have hook on both ends they have extra lines going from the two hooks with a ring so you can hook uphaul/toppjng lift and downhaul on the ring so when you tack or gybe and switch pole end for end the uphaul and downhaul are still in the middle not at the mast end.
think of these manouvre in the middle of the Atlantic Ocean when sailing westward to the Caribbean. You often sail with a boomed out genua in the Passatwinds.
In my opion this manouvre is much to complicated ( nearly as complicated as using a spinnacker) and even dangerous in an atlantic swell. I prefer to do it much easier. Most boats have a rolling - jib today( as well as the boat in the demonstration). Prepare the spinnacker - boom with the two lines(downhaul and uphaul), and clip it into the sheet of the rolled- in jib. You sail only with the mainsail in this moment, the boom secured by a line in order not to make a crash- jibe. Than you can very easy and safe roll out the jib from the cockpit in a boomed out fashion.You can also adjust the size of the jib day and night safe from the cockpit by rolling it further in or out.
excellent instruction
Great video, very clear how to pole out a gib.
Many thanks Elysegr, much appreciated CJ
Many thanks. I'm used to a J24 spinnaker and I'm going to be sailing on an Aerodyne 38 wing on wing.
Really useful. Thank you
Great job all Thank you.
good instruction - thanks
Nicely done..
It does have a fast forward option ! It was also shot during a training session for some students on an RYA course most of whom didn't know what a spinnaker
Thank you for this excellent video. What a great way to pole out the jib. Looks like you've figured this out very well. Where did you find that big black rubber stopper on the pole guide line? I imagine it could be made easily out of poly board or something similar. I've been searching for years for a good informative video on how to pole out the jib. This is wonderful surprise. Thanks again and again.
Informative even if a bit too informative. I've seen it done more simply and I've seen it done without the pole. But this method certainly seems secure. I would reserve this way of doing it for a course that I was going to maintain for a longer while.
Patience and unhurried and direct explanation is this instructor's most wonderful traits. The camera could have been a bit more intuitive. Excellent video.
Nice video. We call this wing and wing. Sailing Lake Erie we cannot have more than one line controlling the clew of the headsail, or the spin. Furthermore I have never been on a boat where the spin pole works well for this, I must use a "whisker pole" or in my case a spin pole from a J-24. The shorter length allows a much better sail shape even flying a 170%. I'm considering buying or making an adjustable pole. If I'm not mistaken our rules also preclude using a pole that exceeds the "J" measurement. I also think there are much simpler ways to set this rig, although my pole can go end for end so that may not apply. I like your video and don't mean any criticism just putting in my two cents.
Nicely explained. Too bad about the distracting audio. But the critical point is that you got the message across very well. A lav mic with a windscreen and an recorder would make this much easier to do.
I need an uphaul!
Shoot your film. Add sound later sans unwanted noise.I note you were struggling to attach and detach pole from mast fitting - and that in the calm of a marina! What about at sea in the roly poly sea when you are hanging on?
The instructor refers to the line tied to the sail as the guy and does not name the line that keeps the pole aft. Surely the line keeping the pole aft is the guy and the line attached to the clew is an additional sheet?
Is it right that that the jaws of the pole should face down. If the wind gets up wont the "guy" be pulled upwards and so more difficult to get out of a downward facing jaw?
I suspect the orientation is less critical due to the third sheet. If something goes wrong with the third sheet, he can just trim the "real" sheet to take the load and ease the third sheet. Then, he can open the jaw and the sheet will drop out. But, now you've got this third sheet on the clew until you're in a position to safely remove it... If I were using a pole on a normal two-sheet setup, I'd indeed want the jaw facing up so that the pole could be dropped down away from the sheet if needed.
I use a modified extendable boat hook. I don't use a spinnaker pole as its too heavy and too complicated I have a ring on the mast and a clip on the handle of the boat hook. I have another clip that attaches to the clew. Job done...and anyone can set it.
that's called a whisker pole
Do we have to wear gloves to sail downwind ?
question, so in this case the afterguy and the jib sheet are the same line? Pulling on the guy pulls in the jib closer to the end of the spin pole. As shown in the vid, when they changed directions, and the jib returned to port, there is NOT anything to prevent the pole from swiing fore and aft.....can someone explain?
It's a little confusing because what is effectively a third sheet attached to the clew he's calling a "guy." However, at 12:19 he does actually rig an after guy. Also because the downhaul turning block is so far forward (see 9:14), it also acts as a fore guy.
Really good instruction but next time please use mic with wind sock or sync clip mic independant of camera. Thank you.
Thank you for complicating such a simple task. You really need a whole crew to do this?
He's training them
Seems like there was an Elephant pissing in the water for the first 2 minutes hahah
good background noise, or is a foreign language
It seems that everyone I consulted with prefers to have the birdbeak facing up, not down.
zzzzzzz do we need to know every member of the crew by name?!?! would be a great video with a fast forward option.
Olga didn't get to do very much!
Subtitle please!
You didn't set the PREVENTER in the video :) But a great video ...
Need to adjust your mic for sound. Can't understand much with background noise
i made it to :28 Could not handle the back ground noise
Yes, The Cameraman doesn't understand what the word ' Zoom In ' means. And the sound on the whole video is not good, more so the first 2 and a half minutes. You really needed a remote radio mike and gear fixed to the presenter! Just my opinion though. Cheers, G
Quiet on the set, goddamnit. I'm trying to record! Is what you should have said.
Your instructor knows his stuff and his instructs are clear and precise.
Unfortunately he's as dry as the cinnamon challenge.