this cop says " i don't see you being a danger to yourself or anyone else". now 3 people are dead. 1 attempted murder and 2 kids are missing. wondering how he feels now.
Reacting to Reacts As if either of the officers could have possibly predicted this. Come on now, you have the luxury of knowing the facts AFTER this situation. These guys only know the information they’re provided in this interview and she does not have or show any indication or signs to be the Psychopath that she is. There’s absolutely no way any cop or mental doctor could have predicted this. They only know what she so cleverly allows to be shown. Jekyll and Hyde! She is evil and SHE is the only one who’s accountable for her despicable actions-not these officers who aren’t trained psychologist! Not even the Psychologist who evaluated her caught on to the fact that this woman is a psychopath and serial killer. SHE is to blame! No one else!
Poor Charles fighting for their lives. He died trying to help them. He is the hero in this entire horror story. Rest in Peace Charles Vallow. They are all together now. Just so sad.
Blame these policemen for the death of Charles Vallow!! They give this murderer/fraudster all the time in the world and dismissed Mr Vallow's real fear and dread of this evil woman. Maybe because she's attractive to them???
I'm FLOORED by this officer's behavior. The bias is painfully clear, including him WALKING HER THROUGH GETTING AROUND the mental health eval that Charles was RIGHTFULLY trying to get done. I TRULY hope that he's spent time reflecting on this whole situation and how it was handled.
They were laughing at Charles’ text that he was worried for JJ’s life. And Tylee, defending her mother and talking shit about Charles. Now she and her brother and Charles are all dead. This is such bullshit! Didn’t Lori change the locks the night before after she threw away everything he owned? She cleaned out the whole house while he was out of town and stole his truck from the airport...And she was cheating with Chad already. OMG she’s pure evil.
Yep, and the police discounted every report he made. Charles beg them for help. He was asking for a psychological evaluation of Lori's mental state. The Chandler police also advised her that if she did not want to participate in the psychological evaluation that she should just not answer or open her door. These police were flirting with Lori and they were coaching her on how to avoid being taken in for the psychological evaluation
Exactly, and she was able to get away with all that crap she did yet, the officer told Charles if he didn't return her purse that he would get charged. Why the hell didn't they tell Lori anything about what she did? She could of got charged for stealing his vehicle and clothing.
@@FirstnameLastname-ur3ll .......Yes, they did not help Charles at All. Not only did they All Help her in this situation, but EVERY situation. Its amazing to me how naive, gullible or plain stupid many cops, detectives can be. The kids weren't even crying for their Own Father, my mom could Never turn Me against My Father, though she tried. I don't get why they weren't even upset, very, very strange !
Poor poor Charles. The ONLY person who tried to prevent anything happening. It’s also really sad to see how Tylee was manipulated against him- the guy who she called ‘Dad’ 😞
She had Tylee on her side speaking against Charles, no child should be put in that position. Little did Tylee know, her own mom had a plan for her. After she used her as much as she could. RIP Tylee and JJ 🧸🧸🙏🙏
This cop should be held accountable for his unprofessional behavior. He could have saved Charles. He didn't. Charged Charles with theft? Are you kidding? Instead, he was flirting with this murderer. He was actually coaching Lori on how to avoid the mental health order. The cop and Lori laughing at Charles' claims. Melanie Gibb was right there. Aiding and abetting! So, her interview saying she did nothing and knew nothing. LIES. I am praying that she gets arrested soon. The whole story is disgusting. So many people knew what was happening and they did nothing. Show us your equipment? Really Lori? Trashy!! Honestly, if it weren't for Nate Eaton, she would still be free. I have not seen LE give him the credit he deserves. Instead, they are taking credit and patting themselves on the back. THANK YOU NATE.
You're absolutely right... Children should not be dragged into adults arguments, let alone be expected to take sides. Poor kid, if only she knew then that she wasn't going to make it to Christmas.... she wouldn't of supported her mothers lies in this interview 😥😢🤬🤬
@@marycielo5329 yes, Nate Eaton is worthy of universal reporter of the year award for his consistent dedication to this case. And for speaking like a caring father and husband whilst reporting the facts. Total respect for this man 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼💯🇬🇧
According to Reverend Donna Seraphina, Tylee and Charles are best friends in the afterlife. You can check it out at her TH-cam channel. She's a great psychic. Pretty sure she helped the police narrow down where the bodies were. She stated the condition of the bodies before they were revealed in real life.
This whole scene makes me sick. Her lies and laughing and Melanie Gibb's cooperation, even though she already knows that Lori and Chad are having an affair.
Melanie G is detestable and culpable. She’s at the very least complicit. She’s also very deceptive. She needs to be charged as an accessory to murder after the fact, or before the fact , or something. She knows A LOT MORE than she’s letting on, and she has very convenient memory lapses. She CHOSE to enable Lori (and Chad) at many different decision points. She is complicit and needs to be held accountable.
@@saylorgirl799 I use to feel the same way you did. After watching both trials and learning more of the facts. I think Melanie G was a gullible person. I don't think she believed murder was part of the deal. And it's obvious chad and lori were getting ready to turn on melanie & David Warwick. The melani i think needs charged id mrs pawlowski.....she knows about the murders.
Wonder why she skipped over the part where she robbed their entire joint account, hud his truck, hid his clothes and computer, cancelled his return flight and told him she would destroy him. Hmmmm. Trying to make herself look like the victim. Then took off for months, leaving JJ behind. Too bad, the rest of the story is slowly coming out. She is an extraordinary devious and diabolical person in my opinion.
I'm totally with you on this and had she had a femalepolice officer interviewing her I guarantee you she would have been asking the right questions and not be sexually manipulated buy this calculated Black widow
Unfortunately, yes. At that point had Charles even filed a report for the stolen money? He would probably not be able to, because Lori is his wife. To money would be considered community property until determined other wise by a civil hearing. Same thing with her changing the locks in the house.
Yes. It was a joint account. Her name was on the account. Moral of the story..... Always get a prenuptial agreement, and NEVER put more money than you are willing to lose into a joint account with anyone.
@@scyldwulf1695 from what I understood she DIDN'T change the locks... he couldn't get in bc she had taken his truck from the airport. His keys were inside the truck bc he had a keypad entry on the door...
Hee hee haha laughing happily away Her laughing n all trying to b flirty n sweet n trying to get sympathy from the cops sounds put on n superficial . Wonder whether the daughter saw the mothers true self just before she was killed.
@@dowlowl6269 I am thinking Tylee saw her mother's "true self" all the time ... but felt she had to protect her mother anyway. She had conflicted feelings toward her mother. This paradoxical behaviour is pretty common with people raised by the sort of abuser/manipulator Lori is. They are very confused and conflicted. All the time they are compelled to go along with things they feel are wrong, but which a chorus of people around them (the abuser's enablers) tell them are right and necessary. Listen to the recent interview with Zac Cox (nephew).
The officer who said that also said this was his first couple of months being there since attending the academy. He was so green that there's no way he'd recognize anything. She needed a seasoned interrogator. Tragic situation. I can't understand how anyone can kill children. Especially these two.
This and the previous incidents reported and attended by the late Charles Vallow are just heartbreaking. Charles did everything he could possibly do but sadly there was no help for him. These two officers clearly sided with the sadistic excuse for a mother. Why? Because she had her friend and daughter there to back her up, make her seem “normal?” Does that really count? I want to know how these two officers and the others from the two previous calls by Charles feel today. I’d like to know if they have any regrets now that every member of this family is now dead except the tragic excuse for a mother. This makes me want to vomit, I can’t even imagine how remaining family and friends feel. The Gilbert, AZ police have blood on their hands, they failed Charles miserably and by extension they failed two innocent children at the very least.
Doesn’t want kids involved in the “drama” but brings her daughter to a police interview. 🙄 Tylee is more adult than her Mom. Poor kids living with that horror show.
vendingguy47 definitely. Tylee is calming her Mom down in several parts of the conversation, and I also noticed she said her Mom needed a padded cell. She’s got her number.
@@karencrookedfingerscraft3408 that was another person on the room I'm pretty sure. There were several people there. The Melanie girl is someone he supposedly messaged to "get information" about Lori.
This poor guy Charles was only trying to get back what was taken from him so that he could have half a chance at keeping his business running. Now he's dead😓
@monklington everjet these dude's think it's weird as, and their job's to make them feel at ease. No one needs 3 people to talk to the police about a stolen handbag.
And he tells her she seems sane to him, ummm that was a foolish thing to say about someone he's talked to for 5 mins. Both her kids are dead now, the husband is dead, the lover's wife is dead, their hit man is dead and this cop is sitting there acting all buddy buddy and laughing with that idiot. Cannot stand that breathy laugh she does and talks as she's laughing, it's like nails on a chalkboard. UGH
For those who are hearing that Tylee seems to be getting involved in the conversation and and agreeing with Lori's statements. Talking from personal experience. In my opinion if a teenager is manipulated by an adult they look up to, some teenage girls will agree with the adults especially when 2 adults are saying the same thing, all Tylee seems to know at this point is Charles had taken Mums purse and phone and changed the locks, the rest is probably what her Mum and Aunt have told her. She wants to feel and be treated as a grown up, so will get involved in adult conversations often agreeing with what mum says. Often young teenagers will not understand the full consequences of what they are agreeing to.
totally! I just posted my video where I analyze her and Tylee's body language and my God is this woman manipulative and poor Tylee is trying so hard to make her mother look good and in the end her mother does who-knows-what to her. With a mother like that who needs enemies???
“Especially my lipgloss! hee heehee hee!” (And all the officers giggle with her.) Wow!! I hope male police officers learn from this manipulative behavior. Lori came across so innocent...and look what all happened! Please please please in the future...train your male officers to not let their guards down. Please work with each individual subjectively with out any bias on appearances.
I hope JJ's grandparents sue that department. If only they would have listened to the order. Poor Tylee, if only she had a clue, maybe she and JJ would still be alive. Just sad, the whole situation is sad.
Charles looks like a jealous ex. That’s why. He looks like he’s causing shot because he still loves her. Omg. If only they knew. She played everyone. Including her babies.
sweet honey Read it back properly. I don’t see him like that but the fact Tha they didn’t listen to him is probably what the police thought. I wish people would read my comments properly. I’m not on loris side at all. I was having a dig at the police doing a half arse job again!!!!
I understand completely what you mean. She’s a master manipulator and most likely high on the narcissist spectrum. She played everyone like a fiddle including the cops.
How incredibly sad and tragic to hear this interview, the officer's response to her, and to know now how this would all turn out. I pray that Charles, Tylee, and JJ will all rest in peace.
@@andiehann2977 I don't know that feeling stupid is the right thing .I am sure they will not stop regretting the way it was handled ...ever . But they must learn from their mistakes so this scenario is not repeated ever . In the case of a professional making an err in judgement , especially when it resulted in loss of life, they will definitely have a lifetime of regret that they will have to try to overcome
@@cathleencavanaugh8351 you do have a point, positive reinforcement is necessary as well to keep educating people on narcisssism and recognizing abusive dynamics and their initiators and how not to confuse them with the victims in the situation, and for rookies, they are not 100% retarded i dont necessarily suspect, i will give you that, but they made themselves look at the bare minimum unequipped to handle domestic disputes, and that is something i really hope they are adamant about educating these officers, because based on the types of people we have seen working on this over in Chandler as well after charles's death, it appears law enforcement has been working at sloth speed to find these kids. The way i understand it is they want to play it "dont swing at the big bully on the block unless you are sure she will stay down" Which is definitely smart But the speed with which they are prioritizing the kids and searching for them is problematic to say the least. Like nobody cares about your dead husbands the same way they care about your children lady
I wonder if Kylee was involved in her mom's sceams and knew to much. And she might be in hiding because she's afraid of being questioned about Charles death. She must have knew what her mother's beliefs where but in this video. but makes it seem like Charles send a link to beliefs she never heard of. "Yeah righ!t" Mel Gibb also knew about the zombies while sitting there but goes along with making Charles looks bad.
OMG this woman is SO evil! SO EVIL! How she's sits there and lies and manipulates everyone around her is just disgusting. This just makes me sick and so very sad that Tylee couldn't see what was happening. I wish she would have trusted Charles and not her filthy, disgusting mother :(
This order that Charles had could have saved everyone!! That’s why she killed him, because he got in her way! He tried to get her help..So sad..So extremely sad..:(
Cop acted like he knew her! Saying she doesnt look like shes a danger to herself, she gets her kids to school on time.. very sad that they didnt hold her until it came back.
@@ericar8803 Because she couldn't remember if she'd locked the car or not. If it was locked, he likely went through the sunroof. If it was unlocked, he would have just opened the door. She didn't witness him doing it, so that is why she didn't know how he gained access to the vehicle.
And WHY is the officer telling her over and over again that it will take awhile to verify the order ... so they cannot do anything to her right away? Like he is telling her how to get out of it, and to talk through the door etc
Can't believe I didn't realise that Mel Gibb was actually with Lori and Tylee in this police vid. Someone did msge me saying that they could hear Mel in the background talking but you can actually hear her when the cop asks her name. Mel only mentioned waiting outside in her car after Lori had her mental health assessment and didn't mention being with them in the interview room. This woman is well in the thick of it and more culpable than she will ever be convicted of!. She knew Charles was very concerned for his children's welfare
@Dane H Prove that they are alive! Even Lori can’t do this. July 22 will come and go, won’t she be disappointed when the world doesn’t end finding out that she killed her kids and Charles for no good reason!
Police should have questioned her ALONE! Why were Tylee AND Melody in the room? Had they questioned them separately, they might have figured out Lori’s story was fishy!
Tammy Hillhouse as well as he should!! He told Lori show to beat the mental exam. If he had kept his mouth shut maybe she would have gotten the help she needed. I'm hope this cop sees tylees face everytime he closes his eyes!!
Hearing Charle's voice on the phone is just sad. Poor man. And here's the thing, even if he was an asshole he still didn't deserve to die. But my guess is that he was a good man. So sad.
@@VancouverCanucksRock Well it goes both ways though :( I mean there are very nice women and men OR there are PEOPLE like this monster female :( ... *Blessings Everyone* ...
Narcissists are disgusting, manipulative, evil liars! 🤬😠🤬 I have some of them in my family unfortunately. My dad had to pass away because the Narcissists needed money (the inheritage). R.I.P. dad! 😥
@MyFox'sBabycakes Exactly! My narcissist family couldn't use my dad and me anymore. My dad is dead now. I am still alive, but live in fear (even after moving to a different continent).
She never cried and hadn't her Father just died? Like this day? Why was she loving mom soooo much, yet dad was the evil one? Looks like she Trusted Wrong person, as did Everyone !! Her kids, her family, detectives, cops, friends, etc !!
She was helping cover a lie during this whole video you can see her helping her mom lie as she told the cops her husband stole he purse phone and every but at 16:01 you can see her pull her phone out to take note the daughter notices and tries to slap her hand as to say oh shit put it up welp it’s to late and she does that a lot throughout this interview she sees her mom getting ready to start acting crazy and you see the daughter put her hand in front of her mom as to say “hey calm down before you show how crazy you really are”
@@bwallis100 .......Your good at observing others actions it seems. I need to re- watch this again to see what You saw. So many Lied for Lori , but Why is what Id have loved to Know ?
I honestly cannot believe she would involve her daughter in this interrogation. Is this cop actually flirting back with her or just trying to appease her?
The cop is actually coaching Lori fallo on how to not be picked up for a psychological evaluation. He tells her that if she doesn't want to be picked up just don't answer the door when they knock. Because they won't kick the door down. WOW WHAT EVEN AMAZES ME MORE IS THAT NONE OF THESE COPS HAVE ANY PSYCHOLOGICAL TRAININGYET IT SEEMS LIKE THEY ARE ALREADY CONDUCTING THEIR OWN LITTLE EVALUATION AND HAVE DEEMED THAT LORI IS PERFECTLY FINE. AS HE SAID IN THE INTERVIEW THAT SHE SEEMED PERFECTLY FINE AND THAT MOST OF THE TIME THESE THINGS ARE ONE-SIDED.
well later on I guess the cops will all realize their stupidity because clearly Charles Vallow gets shot by crazy-ass Lori Vallow's brother. And Charles is now dead 😭 good job Gilbert police department. And her two kids are missing. Oh did Lori forget to say she cleaned out Charles business bank account and a few other accounts. Lie lori lie she doesn't have any money
Annette Herrera I listened one more time and OMG this cop had to have been a Rookie? I wonder if the LE has ever been required to taking classes when it comes to these kind of issues? I definitely would not want to be that Cop who told Lori how to evade them if they came knocking on the door. That is why I was wondering if he was appeasing her as some kind of tactic but no excuse for telling her what and what not to do in the future. Also, I got mad that Tylee was put in that particular situation but I guess they needed at least one person to calm her down.
Bridgett Jochum I think Lori believes every man she meets is one she can manipulate with her “charm.”Ugh. She’s ridiculous and so incorrect in that thinking.
I agree!! She was murdered by her own mother after this interview. That is chilling. And these police did not protect them. In fact they did the opposite
I think it’s sad how she made her daughter her protector. She shrinks and laughs while Tylee explains a lot of adult crap that she shouldn’t have even been part of. Failure from the get go. Leave the kids out of the divorce or pre threats! At least until filed. Is there no guidelines here?
Melanie Gibbs has better get some form of reprimand for not doing more. She literally helped move things along. Just because she didn’t lie the one time for Lori ......she knew those kids were in danger
Ya there's no reason for her to "be running around" with the kids birth certificates,and no kids, in Hawaii months later! Great detective work guys smh
Such a failure on the police department’s part to just take her word for everything with another cult member. He’s basically recommending her to run off before he gets there to prove that she’s mentally ill. What the f*%^!!!!
I wonder if he would’ve been less bias if she was unattractive. He could’ve ended up being her 12th husband or something cool like that. The other officer was at least questioning the whole matter
Yes, it's just like the officer listening to account of Alex Cox while a man lies dead in the house .It all sounded like it was completely coming from a friend to a friend , and completely legit . Strange how Lori & her brother used same m.o. when talking to officers .
Tylee speaks about a "weird link about our church" from the text Charles sent her. He must have sent Tylee information on Chad Daybell's and Lori's religious end of days beliefs, which is why he was concerned about the children's safety and Lori's mental state. I wondered why the police didn't ask about the link and what it said, especially given the fact that Charles was trying to have a mental evaluation done on Lori that very day! So many dropped balls with so many RED flags!
@@jennifermarie1230 That is Tylee. She said Charles is her step dad. Go to 24:37. Tylee & Lori also speak about her Autistic brother, and Lori states that Charles has been in Tylee's life since she was three years old.
@@sharlaharris8120 You're welcome. There's a handful of people in this video comment thread who stated that wasn't Tylee. I'm confused how they all came to that conclusion. Did they not watch the entire video? Maybe they just repeated what someone else said or they're trolling, who knows. One person became nasty & got all defensive when I pointed out their error. Instead of simply admitting they made a mistake, like we all do sometimes, they chose to get nasty. The amount of unbalanced & self-absorbed people are definitely on the rise. Very sad.
Listening to this I’m so mad I could chew a nail in half. The police had soo0 much info after Charles was killed and they let her leave Arizona with the children!!
I can imagine how Gilbert P.D. feels about this now. There's Tylee trying again to quiet her mothers manic jabbering and then her padded room remark that was so prophetic. There sits Melanie. The sheep that cries wolf so much later! Poor Charles and children.
Elizabeth Elliott : she’s manipulating this conversation with her chatty little “California Girl” disposition, appealing to this cops male ego. If he would’ve handled this the way way he should’ve, Charles would likely been alive like much longer and the kids!!!!!!! He definitely could’ve prevented the murders with the “no nonsense -attitude” instead of this, “”awh.....let’s be friends” 😡. He should’ve been fired, then interviewed as an accomplice.
Lori states that she bought a throw away phone at the beginning of the interview, but then later on she says she's using her mom's old phone. She lied to the police, no one called her out on it.
Plus, Melani Hibb in her interview recently stated she has no idea Lori had throw away phones, never heard of such a thing...yet here Lori states she bought a throw away phone so Charles would not contact her, yet here Melani hears Lori says it in this police interview ...but yet says she never heard of throw away phones. Hmmmm, Melanie was in deeper than she admits
Omg… the officer was telling Lori she can leave to avoid the mental evaluation. He is telling her how to avoid it. This is awful. All the deaths could have all been prevented.
Where's the footage of Charles when he came in with the purse and the order? What did he tell the officers about why he got the order etc. Would love to see that footage!
Fascinating that the friend they call, to verify his witness status on the mental health order says Lori “never threatened” Charles and THEN he says he heard Lori tell Charles she was going to “destroy” him. That IS a threat. Interesting how none of these people understood how dangerous she is, except for her now dead husband.
This officer giggles with Lori. "Yeah. You dont appear to me to be a danger to yourself or anyone else". Chuckles some more. Clearly, Charles was rightfully concerned. Perhaps if he had been taken seriously by the authorities, he and the children would still be alive today.
He did file a police report. He filed an emergency psych-check, And he WASN'T Changing the locks! He was Fixing the door after the police helped him get in to his home the night before!
I cannot believe he coached her like that! What terrible bias. So this woman can manipulate anyone apparently. Even Law enforcement. She can empty out his entire house of all of his belongings his vehicle and his hard earned money but she’s entitled to her lipgloss? This is so wrong. this officer completely missed it and I hope he was held accountable.
So strange. Did anyone else catch the part about her changing the locks before Charles got home? She told police that he changed the locks. I also noticed how Tylee would try to calm her mom down at times.
I think Melanie said that during the East Idaho News interviews where she's wearing an orange sweater and still playing kissyface to her cult leading besties.
Natalie Selig I wasn’t replying to you, I totally get what you were replying though, I had step grandparents that were no different then being blood related.
These police officers are instructing her how to not get taken in!!!! WTH is wrong with them? They must know her or are flirting with her!! Shame on them.
Agree...however, there is a point (way too late) in this video where you can tell that new cop seems to stop buying her story and reigns in his enthusiam a bit....but geez...could stand to be a little more professional and less social....ugh!
Who’ s here after her guilty verdict - May 2023? It gives me pleasure to know she’s in prison for life,,,and breaks my 💔 to know this is close to the end of Tylee’s life.
Tylee was there when they found ger father Joe Ryan dead. Then witnessed Charles murder. That poor child. The amount of chaos and trauma in her short life is heartbreaking.
As someone who’s been used as a pawn in their parents’ divorce I feel so bad for these children. Being fed with lie after lie from their mother who was trying to drive a wedge between them and their father. Breaks my heart.
Caitlin Paige Agreed. Both parents should have left her out of it & dealt with their issues between themselves. Lori shouldn't have brought her to the police station in my opinion. (Sorry you had to go through that with your parents btw, parents divorcing can be very painful for the rest of the family & being used as a pawn leaves lasting scars. Hope you've doing ok.)
Now that she's facing charges for 4 MURDERS she's claiming "I'm too CRAZY"..lol Lori...you WILL NEVER see the light of day outside a cage! A mental institution is like being housed in a septic tank w knee deep isht..and a prison is like being housed in a magic PORTAL POTTY w 6" if stinky isht! Either way Lori LIFE WILL NEVER include dancing on the beach in Kauai w Chad fake playing a yucky banjo!
This cop should be included in the conspiracy charge as he aided her to evade the evaluation of her mental state. Now 5 people are dead, 4 of which didn't deserve it. Guess that's what happens when you love someone that's evil!
Melanie gibb is complicit in the deaths surrounding lori vallow daybell! The youngest person in the room seemed to be most serious, while the adults were dismissive of Charles attempts to be heard & lori lied & conned the cops melanie knew Charles was being truthful & lori was lying!!! As did the "padded room" commentator who was later murdered, mutilated, burned, & buried by Lori! Melanie gibb is an enabler to this crime when dad was doing everything possible to stop it! Son was in danger!!
Yeah this creeped me out.. especially when she's flirting and they talk about the cops "equipment" like... what?? Her behavior was completely disgusting, she was calm even when they explained that she could be taken in for evaluation. She spent more time giggling, acting flirty, and "concerned", if you can even call it that, than she ever did seem scared or legitimately worried about the safety of her kids or herself. It sounded like a rehearsed story she'd prepped and overly dramatized to those around her so they could add in bits but she could still talk over them and control the situation. Honestly she didn't sound the least bit worried.. she just wanted a false report on file for later use. I feel sick hearing her daughter talk, she sounds carefree for the most part and proud that got her GED and that she can go to school to pursue her interests. This is just something like 7 months before she was gone. They need to get locked up and stay there for a very very long time.
Wow. At 5:00 and 21:49, Lori's own daughter (poor, lost, possibly DEAD Tylee) puts her hand over on her mother's hand, trying to calm her. This is so sad. Tylee was acting a lot like a parent to over-reactive Lori.
That is a great indicator that Tylee knew how out of control she was about to get. For me, the most horrific part of all this is the possibility that those kids finally realized she is satan himself in the very last second of their lives.
@@daniellecobb2674 It is. Twice in ten minutes she motions to calm Lori down. Shortly after that, Tylee explains the text messages (sent weird link amongst other info). And even before calling Charles, it's pretty obvious it's Tylee sitting right next to Lori. Melanie is near the door.
Danielle Cobb Tylee is the the one sitting next to Lori, though it sounded like that came from Tylee it didn’t it came from the person sitting on the chair.
The "System" totally totally failed Charles and the two children. Charles did everything in his power, to do things the right way, and he ended up dead.
Even the kids by sending her articles on the church n stuff. You’d think she knew her mom was crazy😱 amazing how gullible we can be with our parents! This was fukd up she had to die!! Kind of wish she survived so she could learn not to trust her!! Fukd up man
this cop says " i don't see you being a danger to yourself or anyone else". now 3 people are dead. 1 attempted murder and 2 kids are missing. wondering how he feels now.
Yeah you cant judge a book by its cover!! She played him. I wonder how he feels now!!!!
Forgive me God one word a (Mule)
Reacting to Reacts As if either of the officers could have possibly predicted this. Come on now, you have the luxury of knowing the facts AFTER this situation. These guys only know the information they’re provided in this interview and she does not have or show any indication or signs to be the Psychopath that she is. There’s absolutely no way any cop or mental doctor could have predicted this. They only know what she so cleverly allows to be shown. Jekyll and Hyde! She is evil and SHE is the only one who’s accountable for her despicable actions-not these officers who aren’t trained psychologist! Not even the Psychologist who evaluated her caught on to the fact that this woman is a psychopath and serial killer. SHE is to blame! No one else!
Ashley D I know this. However if I was this cop I would be feeling shitty AF! I’m just wondering how he is feeling.
He didn't know,he did his job. No one has a crystal ball.
Poor Charles fighting for their lives. He died trying to help them. He is the hero in this entire horror story. Rest in Peace Charles Vallow. They are all together now. Just so sad.
I ALSO AGREE 100%
The death of Charles Vallow rests squarely on the shoulders of these dumb policemen!! So easy for them to give their time and
Blame these policemen for the death of Charles Vallow!! They give this murderer/fraudster all the time in the world and dismissed Mr Vallow's real fear and dread of this evil woman. Maybe because she's attractive to them???
Blame society for always believing the woman over men in child custody issues.
Believe me. Living with this kind of loss is worse than death.
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I am really upset with this Officer for making a joke of the mental health process...Officer, I hope you know this now....I hope you learned..
They Should be fired for this ... now there’s what five dead??? Clearly they got manipulated or they’re corrupt
ok W also Lori’s sister as well so possibly 7
Jacqueline Ashton or that “pretty rich ladies” can be just as bad as a meth addicts, or a robber.
How are you all forgetting Tammy Daybell? The other innocent spouse who unbeknownst to her was scheduled to die because of this sick twist!
No shit right
She didn't "want him to hurt one of the kids.." She, who killed them and buried them.
That was only after they were possesed by demons lol
I'm FLOORED by this officer's behavior. The bias is painfully clear, including him WALKING HER THROUGH GETTING AROUND the mental health eval that Charles was RIGHTFULLY trying to get done. I TRULY hope that he's spent time reflecting on this whole situation and how it was handled.
👏👏👏👏i agree🤬
Its her looks. She's pretty and can manipulate men. Shameful
She is so creepy
She’s unfit for trial
@@suzyrottencrotch5132 not so simple! It’s up to the judge to make that determination
Obviously charles was right, kids were in danger
Yes I agree Charles was right and now he and his children are together in heaven
I believe the kids are alive
@Vinny 666 what proof do u have please show me
Ashley Wang really?? Hmmm
Ashley Wang um...their bodies were found
They were laughing at Charles’ text that he was worried for JJ’s life. And Tylee, defending her mother and talking shit about Charles. Now she and her brother and Charles are all dead. This is such bullshit! Didn’t Lori change the locks the night before after she threw away everything he owned? She cleaned out the whole house while he was out of town and stole his truck from the airport...And she was cheating with Chad already. OMG she’s pure evil.
Yep, and the police discounted every report he made. Charles beg them for help. He was asking for a psychological evaluation of Lori's mental state. The Chandler police also advised her that if she did not want to participate in the psychological evaluation that she should just not answer or open her door. These police were flirting with Lori and they were coaching her on how to avoid being taken in for the psychological evaluation
Exactly, and she was able to get away with all that crap she did yet, the officer told Charles if he didn't return her purse that he would get charged. Why the hell didn't they tell Lori anything about what she did? She could of got charged for stealing his vehicle and clothing.
@@FirstnameLastname-ur3ll .......Yes, they did not help Charles at All. Not only did they All Help her in this situation, but EVERY situation. Its amazing to me how naive, gullible or plain stupid many cops, detectives can be. The kids weren't even crying for their Own Father, my mom could Never turn Me against My Father, though she tried. I don't get why they weren't even upset, very, very strange !
Don't for get the tens of thousands of dollars she cleared out of their bank account....changing the pass to the account to try and hide that fact.
Exactly and now she wants to use the unfit card to not stand trial how ironic.
When you listen to this now knowing the kids are dead. You hear so much more.
Omg true.. I’m coming back and rewatching all of it. Man it’s so telling...everything points to what we know now.😰
😭😭😭
She had to kill Tylee because she spent all her trust money, and she wasn't gonna deal with an autistic child anymore so JJ had to go.
Foreshadowing af
Agreed
Poor poor Charles. The ONLY person who tried to prevent anything happening. It’s also really sad to see how Tylee was manipulated against him- the guy who she called ‘Dad’ 😞
She’s just a kid! Or was…
It is heartbreaking how that little girl was killed and burned and tossed into a pet cemetery.
She had Tylee on her side speaking against Charles, no child should be put in that position. Little did Tylee know, her own mom had a plan for her. After she used her as much as she could. RIP Tylee and JJ 🧸🧸🙏🙏
This cop should be held accountable for his unprofessional behavior. He could have saved Charles. He didn't. Charged Charles with theft? Are you kidding? Instead, he was flirting with this murderer. He was actually coaching Lori on how to avoid the mental health order. The cop and Lori laughing at Charles' claims. Melanie Gibb was right there. Aiding and abetting! So, her interview saying she did nothing and knew nothing. LIES. I am praying that she gets arrested soon. The whole story is disgusting. So many people knew what was happening and they did nothing. Show us your equipment? Really Lori? Trashy!! Honestly, if it weren't for Nate Eaton, she would still be free. I have not seen LE give him the credit he deserves. Instead, they are taking credit and patting themselves on the back. THANK YOU NATE.
S L cops are not psychic. Charles stole property which is a crime. Everything Lori did would need to be handled in civil court.
You're absolutely right... Children should not be dragged into adults arguments, let alone be expected to take sides.
Poor kid, if only she knew then that she wasn't going to make it to Christmas.... she wouldn't of supported her mothers lies in this interview 😥😢🤬🤬
@@marycielo5329 yes, Nate Eaton is worthy of universal reporter of the year award for his consistent dedication to this case.
And for speaking like a caring father and husband whilst reporting the facts.
Total respect for this man 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼💯🇬🇧
According to Reverend Donna Seraphina, Tylee and Charles are best friends in the afterlife. You can check it out at her TH-cam channel. She's a great psychic. Pretty sure she helped the police narrow down where the bodies were. She stated the condition of the bodies before they were revealed in real life.
The husband stole the purse and cell phone to text the daughter. He was extremely desperate to get her out of that situation. Really sad
I also think he was desperate to find receipts and maybe the $35,000 she took out of their work account. Maybe to find where she hid his truck too!
Or to stopbher from withdrawing the funds she stole ...
Is that Melanie Gibb in the green t-shirt?
Gillian Roberts Melanie Gibb is with her yes. She is on the far right when they are seated at the table.
@@DeckardBR09 creepy naive Melanie Gibb.
Hearing that evil woman laugh makes my skin crawl. Those poor kids. I just can't imagine what they had to go through.
This whole scene makes me sick. Her lies and laughing and Melanie Gibb's cooperation, even though she already knows that Lori and Chad are having an affair.
It is sickeningly..i like her story of her cop friend in Phoenix she so down with the cops coz shes just a great lady
@@mickeykyker4837 I really believe this
Melanie G is detestable and culpable. She’s at the very least complicit. She’s also very deceptive.
She needs to be charged as an accessory to murder after the fact, or before the fact , or something. She knows A LOT MORE than she’s letting on, and she has very convenient memory lapses.
She CHOSE to enable Lori (and Chad) at many different decision points.
She is complicit and needs to be held accountable.
@@saylorgirl799 I use to feel the same way you did. After watching both trials and learning more of the facts. I think Melanie G was a gullible person. I don't think she believed murder was part of the deal. And it's obvious chad and lori were getting ready to turn on melanie & David Warwick.
The melani i think needs charged id mrs pawlowski.....she knows about the murders.
Charles: MY WIFE IS DELUSIONAL, EMPTIED OUR BANK ACCOUNTS AND IS THREATENING ME AND MY KIDS
Cops: ya but what a bout her purse
Was that a story, or did he really take her purse?
Wonder why she skipped over the part where she robbed their entire joint account, hud his truck, hid his clothes and computer, cancelled his return flight and told him she would destroy him. Hmmmm. Trying to make herself look like the victim. Then took off for months, leaving JJ behind. Too bad, the rest of the story is slowly coming out. She is an extraordinary devious and diabolical person in my opinion.
Monica M was it destroy him or murder him???? Which ended up happening.
She’s a disgusting liar!
I'm totally with you on this and had she had a femalepolice officer interviewing her I guarantee you she would have been asking the right questions and not be sexually manipulated buy this calculated Black widow
Annette Herrera or even a mature male officer that thinks about his job more than his pants
Agree with everything you said and diabolico is right
Lori didn't just take money from their joint account. She took $34,000 out of his business account, some of that money belonged to his clients.
so what the cops are saying is that she can steal 35K from a bank account but he can't have her purse?
Yep it's a "civil" case. Whatever!
Unfortunately, yes. At that point had Charles even filed a report for the stolen money?
He would probably not be able to, because Lori is his wife. To money would be considered community property until determined other wise by a civil hearing. Same thing with her changing the locks in the house.
Yes. It was a joint account. Her name was on the account. Moral of the story..... Always get a prenuptial agreement, and NEVER put more money than you are willing to lose into a joint account with anyone.
She pulled the cop griend now they r talking about the cop. They shouldve not even be talking about the cop friend..shecwas trying to manipulate
@@scyldwulf1695 from what I understood she DIDN'T change the locks... he couldn't get in bc she had taken his truck from the airport. His keys were inside the truck bc he had a keypad entry on the door...
Wondering if this cop is still on the force? Complete failure of the system here just because she was cute & nice to the police. Holy cow.
Hee hee haha laughing happily away
Her laughing n all trying to b flirty n sweet n trying to get sympathy from the cops sounds put on n superficial . Wonder whether the daughter saw the mothers true self just before she was killed.
@@dowlowl6269 I am thinking Tylee saw her mother's "true self" all the time ... but felt she had to protect her mother anyway. She had conflicted feelings toward her mother. This paradoxical behaviour is pretty common with people raised by the sort of abuser/manipulator Lori is. They are very confused and conflicted. All the time they are compelled to go along with things they feel are wrong, but which a chorus of people around them (the abuser's enablers) tell them are right and necessary. Listen to the recent interview with Zac Cox (nephew).
They are doing this nice guy on purpose… it will cause Lori to get very comfortable and spill dumb shit in which they will catch her on.
Why do people think she is "cute" or "pretty". She looks pretty plain Jane to me.
The Cops as a rule kissed her Butt thru all of there contacts with her, She played them like a fiddle !!
I bet those officers are kicking themselves now. “You don’t seem like someone who is going to hurt yourself or your children.” Wow. What a fool.
The officer who said that also said this was his first couple of months being there since attending the academy. He was so green that there's no way he'd recognize anything. She needed a seasoned interrogator. Tragic situation. I can't understand how anyone can kill children. Especially these two.
This and the previous incidents reported and attended by the late Charles Vallow are just heartbreaking. Charles did everything he could possibly do but sadly there was no help for him. These two officers clearly sided with the sadistic excuse for a mother. Why? Because she had her friend and daughter there to back her up, make her seem “normal?” Does that really count? I want to know how these two officers and the others from the two previous calls by Charles feel today. I’d like to know if they have any regrets now that every member of this family is now dead except the tragic excuse for a mother. This makes me want to vomit, I can’t even imagine how remaining family and friends feel. The Gilbert, AZ police have blood on their hands, they failed Charles miserably and by extension they failed two innocent children at the very least.
Doesn’t want kids involved in the “drama” but brings her daughter to a police interview. 🙄 Tylee is more adult than her Mom. Poor kids living with that horror show.
Tyler did appear more adult than her mom in all her interactions.
vendingguy47 definitely. Tylee is calming her Mom down in several parts of the conversation, and I also noticed she said her Mom needed a padded cell. She’s got her number.
That's not Tylee. See 4:14 she says her name is Melanie Gibb.
@@karencrookedfingerscraft3408 that was another person on the room I'm pretty sure. There were several people there. The Melanie girl is someone he supposedly messaged to "get information" about Lori.
She's a murder
This poor guy Charles was only trying to get back what was taken from him so that he could have half a chance at keeping his business running. Now he's dead😓
All that flirty laughing is weird.
Thats what I thought too.
She's a true narsistist psycopath. Obviously NOW!
@Some One me too, I was desperate to keep me and my kid's alive. I sure as s##t didn't laugh about how funny it is with the police.
@monklington everjet these dude's think it's weird as, and their job's to make them feel at ease. No one needs 3 people to talk to the police about a stolen handbag.
Lori is disgusting
The officer: “I’m not gonna take sides” while he’s clearly taking her side. Guilt is probably eating that guy up right now.
K Bux I sure hope so!!!
And he tells her she seems sane to him, ummm that was a foolish thing to say about someone he's talked to for 5 mins. Both her kids are dead now, the husband is dead, the lover's wife is dead, their hit man is dead and this cop is sitting there acting all buddy buddy and laughing with that idiot. Cannot stand that breathy laugh she does and talks as she's laughing, it's like nails on a chalkboard. UGH
Don't count on it!
I hope it is he deserves every guilty feeling he has cops suck
Karma is scary, it will come in some form or another later down the road. For his ignorance.
Within 1 minute “I locked the door...I didn’t lock the door ... I don’t know if I locked the door” ???
For those who are hearing that Tylee seems to be getting involved in the conversation and and agreeing with Lori's statements. Talking from personal experience. In my opinion if a teenager is manipulated by an adult they look up to, some teenage girls will agree with the adults especially when 2 adults are saying the same thing, all Tylee seems to know at this point is Charles had taken Mums purse and phone and changed the locks, the rest is probably what her Mum and Aunt have told her. She wants to feel and be treated as a grown up, so will get involved in adult conversations often agreeing with what mum says. Often young teenagers will not understand the full consequences of what they are agreeing to.
Jo Roxby True..my daughter is my parrot.
Agreed. Tylee was lied to and manipulated by her mother. She believed her father was bad because her mother lied to her. So sad.
totally! I just posted my video where I analyze her and Tylee's body language and my God is this woman manipulative and poor Tylee is trying so hard to make her mother look good and in the end her mother does who-knows-what to her. With a mother like that who needs enemies???
Just a Texas Girl - that’s unfortunate. This indicates an unhealthy dynamic.
This Melanie isn't her niece. This Melanie is/was her BFF. The one Nate interviewed on her own most recently.
This cop should be fired, the kids would be alive if he did his job. Sitting here telling Lori how to get out of this.
Seeing this now is chilling
He did do his job, advising the public of their rights and due process.
So what you say is that cops have to be psychiatrists and be able to predict the future.
Maaike right on..
The officer absolutely did his job and, no, he could have done absolutely nothing that night that would have saved those poor children.
“Especially my lipgloss! hee heehee hee!” (And all the officers giggle with her.) Wow!! I hope male police officers learn from this manipulative behavior. Lori came across so innocent...and look what all happened! Please please please in the future...train your male officers to not let their guards down. Please work with each individual subjectively with out any bias on appearances.
Seems many male detectives fall prey to female manipulation.. Like the Nicole Kessinger interviews.
Lori: “Yeah, he’s trying to lock me out, just because I ... whatever.”
Stole all his money so he couldn’t pay his workers🙄 and claiming he’s a zombie 🧟♂️
I hope JJ's grandparents sue that department. If only they would have listened to the order.
Poor Tylee, if only she had a clue, maybe she and JJ would still be alive. Just sad, the whole situation is sad.
You knew they were dead...so did we all... I wish Tylee had run away with JJ to Kay and Larry's.
Best suggestion ever!
Kay and larry are charles parents?
15:36 "I don't see you being a danger to yourself or anybody else"... Famous last words.
Charles looks like a jealous ex. That’s why. He looks like he’s causing shot because he still loves her. Omg. If only they knew. She played everyone. Including her babies.
sweet honey Read it back properly. I don’t see him like that but the fact Tha they didn’t listen to him is probably what the police thought. I wish people would read my comments properly. I’m not on loris side at all. I was having a dig at the police doing a half arse job again!!!!
Nope. She cleaned out the bank account. That eliminates “he still loves her”.
It’s sad to watch now that the truth is out
I understand completely what you mean. She’s a master manipulator and most likely high on the narcissist spectrum. She played everyone like a fiddle including the cops.
How incredibly sad and tragic to hear this interview, the officer's response to her, and to know now how this would all turn out. I pray that Charles, Tylee, and JJ will all rest in peace.
Dismissal of his concerns are ALARMING.
Charles knew...now he is dead and J.J. and Tylee….wonder how these officers feel now....CHARLES TOLD THEM.....a true sorrow.
I wonder how these officers feels now that Charles Vallow is dead caused by this diabolic monster.
Elena Celeste and knowing Tylee is probably dead too.
Hopefully these officers are doing everything now to provide justice for Charles & to find the children .
They hopefully feel stupid
@@andiehann2977 I don't know that feeling stupid is the right thing .I am sure they will not stop regretting the way it was handled ...ever . But they must learn from their mistakes so this scenario is not repeated ever . In the case of a professional making an err in judgement , especially when it resulted in loss of life, they will definitely have a lifetime of regret that they will have to try to overcome
@@cathleencavanaugh8351 you do have a point, positive reinforcement is necessary as well to keep educating people on narcisssism and recognizing abusive dynamics and their initiators and how not to confuse them with the victims in the situation, and for rookies, they are not 100% retarded i dont necessarily suspect, i will give you that, but they made themselves look at the bare minimum unequipped to handle domestic disputes, and that is something i really hope they are adamant about educating these officers, because based on the types of people we have seen working on this over in Chandler as well after charles's death, it appears law enforcement has been working at sloth speed to find these kids.
The way i understand it is they want to play it "dont swing at the big bully on the block unless you are sure she will stay down"
Which is definitely smart
But the speed with which they are prioritizing the kids and searching for them is problematic to say the least. Like nobody cares about your dead husbands the same way they care about your children lady
This poor daughter had to live with all this drama, trauma & fear.
I wonder if Kylee was involved in her mom's sceams and knew to much. And she might be in hiding because she's afraid of being questioned about Charles death. She must have knew what her mother's beliefs where but in this video. but makes it seem like Charles send a link to beliefs she never heard of. "Yeah righ!t" Mel Gibb also knew about the zombies while sitting there but goes along with making Charles looks bad.
Well not for much longer as it turns out....I just hope she didn’t know who did it and didn’t suffer....we know they had their fun with her remains...
OMG this woman is SO evil! SO EVIL! How she's sits there and lies and manipulates everyone around her is just disgusting. This just makes me sick and so very sad that Tylee couldn't see what was happening. I wish she would have trusted Charles and not her filthy, disgusting mother :(
How can she sit there with her daughter she raised and then claim she is a zombie and just write her off?
This order that Charles had could have saved everyone!! That’s why she killed him, because he got in her way! He tried to get her help..So sad..So extremely sad..:(
Wonder how that policeman feels now that he warned her to get away..so sad.
Ya this is unique. She is a killer
🙄
Cop acted like he knew her! Saying she doesnt look like shes a danger to herself, she gets her kids to school on time.. very sad that they didnt hold her until it came back.
So true.
“He kicked in the door to get into the house.” His house.
It was actually an officer who did that on his behalf.
Didn’t understand that either. Or she didn’t know if he grabbed her purse from opening the door. or through the sunroof.
@@ericar8803 Because she couldn't remember if she'd locked the car or not. If it was locked, he likely went through the sunroof. If it was unlocked, he would have just opened the door. She didn't witness him doing it, so that is why she didn't know how he gained access to the vehicle.
@@heatherh5450 what’s point in locking a car if sun roof open?? Honestly his plan worked. I haven’t finished video yet.
Bet this cop was utterly stunned to hear all the crimes Loris involved with now! Very sad all the way around...
He's a pos...that couldn't do his job.
Piss poor policing. He was taken by her flirty laughing.
@@laatl67 He did nothing wrong.
I'm sure almost everyone who ever knew her is stunned.
And WHY is the officer telling her over and over again that it will take awhile to verify the order ... so they cannot do anything to her right away? Like he is telling her how to get out of it, and to talk through the door etc
Can't believe I didn't realise that Mel Gibb was actually with Lori and Tylee in this police vid. Someone did msge me saying that they could hear Mel in the background talking but you can actually hear her when the cop asks her name. Mel only mentioned waiting outside in her car after Lori had her mental health assessment and didn't mention being with them in the interview room. This woman is well in the thick of it and more culpable than she will ever be convicted of!. She knew Charles was very concerned for his children's welfare
Little did Tylee know that her mother would murder her shortly hereafter.
Allegedly. I think you're right. But, we only have speculations. We are innocent until proven guilty in the U.S.
what do you mean are the children no longer here?????
What proof do you have that the kids are dead
@Dane H
Prove that they are alive!
Even Lori can’t do this. July 22 will come and go, won’t she be disappointed when the world doesn’t end finding out that she killed her kids and Charles for no good reason!
Yes. Both remains of Tylee and JJ were found in Chad’s backyard.
Police should have questioned her ALONE! Why were Tylee AND Melody in the room? Had they questioned them separately, they might have figured out Lori’s story was fishy!
Very strange should have them separated them .all talking at once.
So many balls dropped. It’s despicable.
Stop giving her information.
They weren’t there to be interviewed. They came there to make a report. They’re not being questioned about anything.
glimps c: it was Lori‘s property that was supposedly stolen. Melody and Tylee should not have been in the room. They were not involved.
The officer must be traumatized now - a rookie - talking to the murder victim in the same room as the murderer and not having a clue.
I was thinking the same exact thing while watching this...I can only imagine how awful he must now feel after this.
Tammy Hillhouse as well as he should!! He told Lori show to beat the mental exam. If he had kept his mouth shut maybe she would have gotten the help she needed. I'm hope this cop sees tylees face everytime he closes his eyes!!
I don't think he feels bad. Spoken with that department..they believe they are perfect.
@@laatl67 I was curious how they might react to this. What they say??
Maybe he'll start thinking with his head instead of his penis from now on.
"He's really just a stand up guy" Famous last words by Tylee Ryan regarding Charles.
All of these "officers" need to be put on the wall for their disgraceful handling of this situation
Hearing Charle's voice on the phone is just sad. Poor man. And here's the thing, even if he was an asshole he still didn't deserve to die. But my guess is that he was a good man. So sad.
Most Psycho Females make Men out to be worse than they actually are. Women always have to be a Victim
@@VancouverCanucksRock Stay in your basement and be quiet, Incel.
@@VancouverCanucksRock Well it goes both ways though :(
I mean there are very nice women and men OR there are
PEOPLE like this monster female :( ... *Blessings Everyone* ...
@@jencendiary Hahaha triggered, Jenny? I am sure you are an incendiary. You make everything go up in Flames, esp things that Men own, don't you?
Just because he’s dead doesn’t mean he was a good man. Point: he was with this monster
Lori was “gaslighting” Charles. Typical Narcissist tactic..
No way it’s him Charles
He’s the abusive narcissist husband
@@MoonChild-nw6oy lori is that you?
Narcissists are disgusting, manipulative, evil liars! 🤬😠🤬
I have some of them in my family unfortunately. My dad had to pass away because the Narcissists needed money (the inheritage). R.I.P. dad! 😥
@MyFox'sBabycakes Exactly! My narcissist family couldn't use my dad and me anymore. My dad is dead now. I am still alive, but live in fear (even after moving to a different continent).
@MyFox'sBabycakes Thank you! 😊🙏🏻
Tylee seems to be so protective of her mother here...it’s so sad since her mother didn’t protect her.
She never cried and hadn't her Father just died? Like this day? Why was she loving mom soooo much, yet dad was the evil one? Looks like she Trusted Wrong person, as did Everyone !! Her kids, her family, detectives, cops, friends, etc !!
She was helping cover a lie during this whole video you can see her helping her mom lie as she told the cops her husband stole he purse phone and every but at 16:01 you can see her pull her phone out to take note the daughter notices and tries to slap her hand as to say oh shit put it up welp it’s to late and she does that a lot throughout this interview she sees her mom getting ready to start acting crazy and you see the daughter put her hand in front of her mom as to say “hey calm down before you show how crazy you really are”
@@denisemezynski8014 her dad died years before this. Her step dad was still alive at this time.
These good for nothing pigs make me sick.
@@bwallis100 .......Your good at observing others actions it seems. I need to re- watch this again to see what You saw. So many Lied for Lori , but Why is what Id have loved to Know ?
A flirty blonde can manipulate men into whatever they want...this woman has been playing people for a lifetime
This could be the reason why Tyler is gone. She's a witness.
She seems to know a lot.
Yep, tylee and jj witnessed charles murder too.
I honestly cannot believe she would involve her daughter in this interrogation. Is this cop actually flirting back with her or just trying to appease her?
Bridgett Jochum 🤨😏
The cop is actually coaching Lori fallo on how to not be picked up for a psychological evaluation. He tells her that if she doesn't want to be picked up just don't answer the door when they knock. Because they won't kick the door down. WOW WHAT EVEN AMAZES ME MORE IS THAT NONE OF THESE COPS HAVE ANY PSYCHOLOGICAL TRAININGYET IT SEEMS LIKE THEY ARE ALREADY CONDUCTING THEIR OWN LITTLE EVALUATION AND HAVE DEEMED THAT LORI IS PERFECTLY FINE. AS HE SAID IN THE INTERVIEW THAT SHE SEEMED PERFECTLY FINE AND THAT MOST OF THE TIME THESE THINGS ARE ONE-SIDED.
well later on I guess the cops will all realize their stupidity because clearly Charles Vallow gets shot by crazy-ass Lori Vallow's brother. And Charles is now dead 😭 good job Gilbert police department. And her two kids are missing. Oh did Lori forget to say she cleaned out Charles business bank account and a few other accounts. Lie lori lie she doesn't have any money
Annette Herrera I listened one more time and OMG this cop had to have been a Rookie? I wonder if the LE has ever been required to taking classes when it comes to these kind of issues? I definitely would not want to be that Cop who told Lori how to evade them if they came knocking on the door. That is why I was wondering if he was appeasing her as some kind of tactic but no excuse for telling her what and what not to do in the future. Also, I got mad that Tylee was put in that particular situation but I guess they needed at least one person to calm her down.
Bridgett Jochum I think Lori believes every man she meets is one she can manipulate with her “charm.”Ugh. She’s ridiculous and so incorrect in that thinking.
Seeing Tylee in this gives me the chills 🥺
Same here, especially now we know know she was murdered. So wrong.
I agree!! She was murdered by her own mother after this interview. That is chilling. And these police did not protect them. In fact they did the opposite
I can’t stand how lori talks just like a teenager. Makes me so sick! I have a hard time figuring out who is who!
I think it’s sad how she made her daughter her protector. She shrinks and laughs while Tylee explains a lot of adult crap that she shouldn’t have even been part of. Failure from the get go. Leave the kids out of the divorce or pre threats! At least until filed. Is there no guidelines here?
Melanie Gibbs has better get some form of reprimand for not doing more. She literally helped move things along. Just because she didn’t lie the one time for Lori ......she knew those kids were in danger
Ya there's no reason for her to "be running around" with the kids birth certificates,and no kids, in Hawaii months later! Great detective work guys smh
Social security maybe ?
Such a failure on the police department’s part to just take her word for everything with another cult member. He’s basically recommending her to run off before he gets there to prove that she’s mentally ill. What the f*%^!!!!
RIGHT
I wonder if he would’ve been less bias if she was unattractive. He could’ve ended up being her 12th husband or something cool like that. The other officer was at least questioning the whole matter
Yes, it's just like the officer listening to account of Alex Cox while a man lies dead in the house .It all sounded like it was completely coming from a friend to a friend , and completely legit . Strange how Lori & her brother used same m.o. when talking to officers .
@@marieannabourne6206 imagine if she was 300 lbs, frizzy hair & pimples? Something tells me the out the outcome would have been FAR different.
Tylee speaks about a "weird link about our church" from the text Charles sent her. He must have sent Tylee information on Chad Daybell's and Lori's religious end of days beliefs, which is why he was concerned about the children's safety and Lori's mental state. I wondered why the police didn't ask about the link and what it said, especially given the fact that Charles was trying to have a mental evaluation done on Lori that very day! So many dropped balls with so many RED flags!
Sharla Harris that’s not Tylee that’s Melanie Loris niece
@@jennifermarie1230 That is Tylee. She said Charles is her step dad. Go to 24:37.
Tylee & Lori also speak about her Autistic brother, and Lori states that Charles has been in Tylee's life since she was three years old.
@@jennifermarie1230 Actually, it was Tylee reading the texts, she had her phone out and is sitting next to her mother.
@@razztazz1982 Good to see people paying attention!! Thank you!
@@sharlaharris8120 You're welcome.
There's a handful of people in this video comment thread who stated that wasn't Tylee. I'm confused how they all came to that conclusion. Did they not watch the entire video? Maybe they just repeated what someone else said or they're trolling, who knows.
One person became nasty & got all defensive when I pointed out their error. Instead of simply admitting they made a mistake, like we all do sometimes, they chose to get nasty.
The amount of unbalanced & self-absorbed people are definitely on the rise. Very sad.
Listening to this I’m so mad I could chew a nail in half. The police had soo0 much info after Charles was killed and they let her leave Arizona with the children!!
I can imagine how Gilbert P.D. feels about this now. There's Tylee trying again to quiet her mothers manic jabbering and then her padded room remark that was so prophetic. There sits Melanie. The sheep that cries wolf so much later! Poor Charles and children.
Lori's levity and chattiness considering the situation in that room is badly misplaced.
Elizabeth Elliott : she’s manipulating this conversation with her chatty little “California Girl” disposition, appealing to this cops male ego. If he would’ve handled this the way way he should’ve, Charles would likely been alive like much longer and the kids!!!!!!! He definitely could’ve prevented the murders with the “no nonsense -attitude” instead of this, “”awh.....let’s be friends” 😡. He should’ve been fired, then interviewed as an accomplice.
How sad he knew (Charles) since Jan 2019 that she was dangerous to her kids if someone would have listen to him :(
Lori states that she bought a throw away phone at the beginning of the interview, but then later on she says she's using her mom's old phone. She lied to the police, no one called her out on it.
Yep~They were too busy flirting right back at the EVIL Monster🤨!!
Sharla Harris locked car doors not locked car doors . We all know she’s a liar .
R B I caught that also.
Good catch on the phone thing Sharla Harris
Plus, Melani Hibb in her interview recently stated she has no idea Lori had throw away phones, never heard of such a thing...yet here Lori states she bought a throw away phone so Charles would not contact her, yet here Melani hears Lori says it in this police interview ...but yet says she never heard of throw away phones. Hmmmm, Melanie was in deeper than she admits
Omg… the officer was telling Lori she can leave to avoid the mental evaluation. He is telling her how to avoid it. This is awful. All the deaths could have all been prevented.
Gilbert Police Dept.: any vids on statements from these cops in light of the currant events since this day back 1/2019?
I wonder if these two cops still think this is funny now that 6 people are dead
Wait who's the sixth?
Tammy
Charles
Brother
Kids...
Captain Foxheart ⚡ Lori had another ex husband that died.
Tried to kill Brandon
Lori's one sister died mysteriously.
How about fathers lifes matter!
Where's the footage of Charles when he came in with the purse and the order? What did he tell the officers about why he got the order etc. Would love to see that footage!
Fascinating that the friend they call, to verify his witness status on the mental health order says Lori “never threatened” Charles and THEN he says he heard
Lori tell Charles she was going to “destroy” him. That IS a threat. Interesting how none of these people understood how dangerous she is, except for her now dead husband.
And dead children 😢
@@natalierichardson9175 yes. Those poor innocent children 💔💔 He tried to save them from that psycho.
This officer giggles with Lori. "Yeah. You dont appear to me to be a danger to yourself or anyone else". Chuckles some more. Clearly, Charles was rightfully concerned. Perhaps if he had been taken seriously by the authorities, he and the children would still be alive today.
He did file a police report. He filed an emergency psych-check, And he WASN'T Changing the locks! He was Fixing the door after the police helped him get in to his home the night before!
Charles wasnt cheating she was with Chad! And that's a fact!
How Lori found Chad to be attractive enough to sleep with is beyond me. His appearance so repulsive.
She always keeps projecting things she has done onto the people she dislike.
If she had of been locked up then he might still be alive..... and the kids would be safe
I AGREE. HE WOULD BE ALIVE AND THE CHILDREN WOULD BE SAFE.
The petite blond lady, fluttering her eye lashes is of course genuine & innocent!
So sad when the officer chit chats with Tylee about her future plans. 🥺
Her future was taken by her own mother. How can that be?
🤣🤣🤣 cop: you don't seem like a danger to yourself or others
That aged well.
I cannot believe he coached her like that! What terrible bias. So this woman can manipulate anyone apparently. Even Law enforcement. She can empty out his entire house of all of his belongings his vehicle and his hard earned money but she’s entitled to her lipgloss?
This is so wrong.
this officer completely missed it and I hope he was held accountable.
So strange. Did anyone else catch the part about her changing the locks before Charles got home? She told police that he changed the locks. I also noticed how Tylee would try to calm her mom down at times.
Shiree Cox all the lies are jumbled up- DUMB COPS
Hard to keep track of lies!!!!!
Because he did change the locks and she did not.
She may have changed codes for house. Charles couldn't get in when she stole his truck from the airport and he had to have a cop kick in the door.
Melanie Gibb said she didn’t know what a burner phone was.
I was only half listening darn it, I must've missed the part she referenced them! Do you remember what was said??
I missed that too?
I think Melanie said that during the East Idaho News interviews where she's wearing an orange sweater and still playing kissyface to her cult leading besties.
She's guilty too
@@alicias5133 she did.
To bad his daughter sided with her mother throughout the divorce, she would be alive today, her dad knew what was up!
Mary Scarpete
Charles is her step father...
Staci Taylor Any male can be a father, or stepfather as the case may be, but it takes a man to be a dad. Charles was her dad.
Staci Taylor And?
Mary Peters and you’re tone deaf
Natalie Selig I wasn’t replying to you, I totally get what you were replying though, I had step grandparents that were no different then being blood related.
The witness who the police called could have done more. He didn’t believe she was a threat but look how wrong he was
She leaves out the part that she cancelled his plane ticket home, stole his truck & got rid of all his stuff! She is so evil!
And she took 30.000 out of his bank account
Dont want them to be in the drama, then brings daughter to police.
These police officers are instructing her how to not get taken in!!!! WTH is wrong with them? They must know her or are flirting with her!! Shame on them.
She was banging one of the cops
Agree...however, there is a point (way too late) in this video where you can tell that new cop seems to stop buying her story and reigns in his enthusiam a bit....but geez...could stand to be a little more professional and less social....ugh!
Yeah I bet
Why is she adding so many unnecessary details? Nobody does that unless they are fibbing.
Shelley, I agree, she's doing too much here. Being "Extra" 🙄
Who’ s here after her guilty verdict - May 2023? It gives me pleasure to know she’s in prison for life,,,and breaks my 💔 to know this is close to the end of Tylee’s life.
I was wondering what her voice sounds like,since she's not talking in court about anything...Nobody knew the danger they were in,but Charles
She didn't want her kids involved in the drama yet Tylee is participating in this🙄.
Hmmm? Right huh
It was all a big game to her. She flirts to play dumb girl, woe is me. And everyone bought it until she left way too many bread crumbs.
Tylee was there when they found ger father Joe Ryan dead. Then witnessed Charles murder.
That poor child. The amount of chaos and trauma in her short life is heartbreaking.
As someone who’s been used as a pawn in their parents’ divorce I feel so bad for these children. Being fed with lie after lie from their mother who was trying to drive a wedge between them and their father. Breaks my heart.
Caitlin Paige He wasn't Tylee's father.
Cary Ulmer good point. 🤷🏻♀️ Still sucks to be manipulated by your parents and seems to be the case here
Caitlin Paige Agreed. Both parents should have left her out of it & dealt with their issues between themselves. Lori shouldn't have brought her to the police station in my opinion. (Sorry you had to go through that with your parents btw, parents divorcing can be very painful for the rest of the family & being used as a pawn leaves lasting scars. Hope you've doing ok.)
For all intent and purpose... he was her dad!! He raised her from the age of three! Rip Tylee. Charles tried.
Everything Charles said was true.....unfortunately for him and the children he was trying in vain to protect.
Well, there goes her INSANITY defense! She's not crazy, she diabolical.
Sandra Holmes exactly. She would not be able to stay calm & composed during this interview if she were legitimately insane
Well said hun!!,
She is a seasoned liar. This is not a beginning liar. She has been a liar all of her life..
Yeap
Now that she's facing charges for 4 MURDERS she's claiming "I'm too CRAZY"..lol Lori...you WILL NEVER see the light of day outside a cage! A mental institution is like being housed in a septic tank w knee deep isht..and a prison is like being housed in a magic PORTAL POTTY w 6" if stinky isht! Either way Lori LIFE WILL NEVER include dancing on the beach in Kauai w Chad fake playing a yucky banjo!
This cop should be included in the conspiracy charge as he aided her to evade the evaluation of her mental state. Now 5 people are dead, 4 of which didn't deserve it. Guess that's what happens when you love someone that's evil!
Melanie gibb is complicit in the deaths surrounding lori vallow daybell! The youngest person in the room seemed to be most serious, while the adults were dismissive of Charles attempts to be heard & lori lied & conned the cops melanie knew Charles was being truthful & lori was lying!!! As did the "padded room" commentator who was later murdered, mutilated, burned, & buried by Lori! Melanie gibb is an enabler to this crime when dad was doing everything possible to stop it! Son was in danger!!
Thanks for posting this. Definitely one of those "hindsight is 20/20" things.
I don't think this is funny at all. Why are even the cops laughing. Joking about everything. This is how mistakes are made.🤔🤔
Most cops NEVER laugh, it's uncharacteristic of the police in uniform, and unprofessional whilst on duty especially during an investigative interview.
Yeah this creeped me out.. especially when she's flirting and they talk about the cops "equipment" like... what?? Her behavior was completely disgusting, she was calm even when they explained that she could be taken in for evaluation. She spent more time giggling, acting flirty, and "concerned", if you can even call it that, than she ever did seem scared or legitimately worried about the safety of her kids or herself. It sounded like a rehearsed story she'd prepped and overly dramatized to those around her so they could add in bits but she could still talk over them and control the situation. Honestly she didn't sound the least bit worried.. she just wanted a false report on file for later use.
I feel sick hearing her daughter talk, she sounds carefree for the most part and proud that got her GED and that she can go to school to pursue her interests. This is just something like 7 months before she was gone.
They need to get locked up and stay there for a very very long time.
Flirting it seems
Wow. At 5:00 and 21:49, Lori's own daughter (poor, lost, possibly DEAD Tylee) puts her hand over on her mother's hand, trying to calm her. This is so sad. Tylee was acting a lot like a parent to over-reactive Lori.
That is a great indicator that Tylee knew how out of control she was about to get. For me, the most horrific part of all this is the possibility that those kids finally realized she is satan himself in the very last second of their lives.
Thats not Tylee. That is Melanie Gibb. At 4:14 she says her name. Im trying to figure out who the 3rd person by the door is.
@@daniellecobb2674 It is. Twice in ten minutes she motions to calm Lori down. Shortly after that, Tylee explains the text messages (sent weird link amongst other info). And even before calling Charles, it's pretty obvious it's Tylee sitting right next to Lori. Melanie is near the door.
Danielle Cobb Tylee is the the one sitting next to Lori, though it sounded like that came from Tylee it didn’t it came from the person sitting on the chair.
Danielle Cobb that is Tylee, Melanie is the one by the door.
So sad that Tylee is supporting Lori and protecting her. Putting her hand out to calm her mother down so she doesn't look bad.
The "System" totally totally failed Charles and the two children. Charles did everything in his power, to do things the right way, and he ended up dead.
Charles was trying so hard to save himself, it's so sad! 🙏
And the children
Even the kids by sending her articles on the church n stuff. You’d think she knew her mom was crazy😱 amazing how gullible we can be with our parents! This was fukd up she had to die!! Kind of wish she survived so she could learn not to trust her!! Fukd up man