Car vs. Sprayer
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Border View Farms is a mid-sized family farm that sits on the Ohio-Michigan border. My name is Nathan. I make and edit all of the videos posted here. I farm with my dad, Mark and uncle, Phil. Our part-time employee, Brock, also helps with the filming. 1980 was our first year in Waldron where our main farm is now. Since then we have grown the operation from just a couple hundred acres to over 3,000. Watch my 500th video for a history of our farm I filmed with my dad.
I started making these videos in the fall of 2019 as a way to help show what I do on a daily basis as a farmer. Agriculture is different from any other industry and I believe the more people that are showing their small piece of agriculture, helps to build our story. We face unique challenges and stressful situations but have some of the most rewarding payoffs in the end. I get to spend everyday doing what I love, raising my kids on the farm, and trying to push our farm to be better every year. I hope that I can address questions or concerns that you might have about farms and agriculture.
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Screw all of that. People need to slow down and watch what they are doing. She made a bad decision and made bad assumptions. It’s not like you pulled out in front of her and she had the right of way. She knew you were there and she hit you from the rear. Farm equipment has just as much right to be on the roads as anything. Moral of the story… NEVER PASS LARGE EQUIPMENT UNLESS THE DRIVER KNOWS YOU ARE PASSING AND BOTH OF YOU KNOW WHAT IS HAPPENING!! Never assume.
Dido
He had no turn signal! How did she know he was turning? Faulty equipment, I see a law suit 😊
Moral of the story. Quotation marks farmers feed the world give farmers the respect do on the road. Don’t get in such big hurry. Enjoy your day. We all know it could be our last.
Very true! That is the law!
Nathan, don't let it eat at you. It was an accident, they happen all the time and sometimes a little scary. No one was hurt. Be thankful for that. Go home and relax and have a good evening.
glad everyone is okay, first of all!! in my mind, it's always on the person performing the overtake to make sure it's safe to do so, but hey.. that may be just me..
Been a truck driver 35 plus years, the driving public gets worse every day. My dumptruck has strobes and it doesn't matter, all they want is to get around EVERYONE in front of them. People leave their house 20 minutes late and expect to make up on the road.
Like your dad said Nathan that's why we carry insurance. Was moving the combine to a field on US 12 in Michigan and was doing same thing turning into field entrance with someone behind me and they claimed that they thought I was letting them by and passed my father's truck and hit my combine even though I was in the middle of road blocking traffic. People just have to have patients and give us time to do our thing.
Glad you and everyone in the car was ok. Accidents happen nothing you could do about that. Don’t let it bother you. I know two farmers here in nw Iowa that were killed doing the same thing. One was turning into a field and one into their home driveway. God bless and keep the videos coming.
As farmers we have all said for years equipment needs a separate lights for turn signal, the ones on them now are too confusing but the equipment builders haven't changed anything but the odd part is all European equipment has separate turn signals, including the ones that are imported here. Chalk it up to a learning experience for both of you and fix the turn signals
Agree with what you're saying but there are resources available that a reasonable farmer could use to improve that situation. Maybe a aftermarket company could drum up business by making road signal kits.
SORRY THAT IT HAPPENED THANKFULLY NO ONE WAS HURT !!! Someone was watching out for the both of you !!
Nathan at the end of the day you were responsible for the machine.. and the driver of the car is responsible for her actions. I drove truck 25yrs. You really have to be aware of your surroundings. Glad no one was hurt.
The sprayer has a SMV sign. Vehicles are to yield right of way.
Thank God everyone is ok.
I farm just southeast of Columbus. In 2021 I was hit twice in the same situation you were - turning left into a field by an idiot that decided to pass. The first time was an 18 y/o going 60 in a 45 that passed 3 other cars to hit me square in the front axle in the middle of the turn. Spun my tractor 270 degrees. I only stppoed spinning because my back tire rotated enough to hit the drawbar of the drill I was pulling. By some strange coincidence, I was wearing my lap belt for once and was fine. (100hp open station tractor, I would have been thrown off otherwise). That particular situation ended VERY quickly after the state troopers saw the dashcam footage from someone 2 cars behind me. Wearing my lap belt has become second nature since.
Woulda, coulda, shoulda. Hindsight is 20/20. Accidents happens and like you said, no one was hurt.
Nathan, it will be FINE, 💯. BUT, this might be an INCENTIVE to consider having you and Brock getting the ELECTRICAL system working correctly as far as the Left and right turn SIGNALS, I know it doesn't fix this time but prevents ANY FUTURE ISSUES like that 🚜🚜🌞👍✌️😎
Good luck. I suspect the car owners insurance company will try to get you to pay for the cars damage. I hope I am wrong.
She rear ended you. She is at Fault. You were in front of her.
I agree with you that people don’t see turn signals on equipment because they think they’re just flashers. I use turn signals anyways just so if there’s an accident at least I can say I used it. I think they should take flashers off farm equipment and replace them with turn signals and brake lights on everything, then use strobes for warning lights.
Great video - sometimes things just happen, Your just do your best to avoid the unexpected
I recommend also notifying your insurance agent and your legal counsel that you use for the farm. Preemptive measure. IMO
I farm in NW Ohio and travel similar roads to this one. There are so many impatient drivers on the road with us. The painted lines on the roads are meaningless to drivers when they want is to get around us. Taking a tractor with a wide implement, a combine or sprayer down the road is serious, dangerous work that most of us take for granted. We sit in a precarious position on this equipment. I’ve begun wearing my seatbelt when moving down the road. If there is a heavy impact collision I don’t want to get thrown off the machine or go through glass. It’s important that are turn signals and highway flashers work and we use them. Like your channel, be safe.
My insurance guy was just telling me about a manure tanker that pulled out on the road next to a hill and a kid on a small motorcycle came over the hill and laid it down and went under the tanker. Kid was ok but they hired Sam Bernstein 🤣. Going after the employee running the tanker, the farm and the employees inlaws somehow because the employee lived in there house😆
This is one reason I try to not put the chemical in the sprayer till I get in the field when possible
Glad everyone was okay, great video
Bad deal 😮!! been in a couple tractor accidents myself a little scary. Thanks sir!!
kinda funny ron, your dads response was awesome.
Happy to hear everyone is OK. Everything else is way less important.
Can we figure out a way to blame Brock is my question :)
Thanks for the video
Glad you're ok. Stuff can be fixed. That's what lawyers are for.
All traffic needs to be cautious around farm equipment. Farmers have equal right to be on public roads and have no choice about how to get to their fields.
What I dont understand is: Why is that right side of the car damaged when she was passing you and it should be her left side thats damaged?
Good video good to see y'all
I've had some close calls just like that with the turn signal on! Like you said people don't notice the one that stops flashing? Like you said thankfully no one was hurt! Keep up the great work 👍
I am a retired farmer
And I find most or all farmers are careless, no signal lights , no real mirrors , just plain careless and they seem they are entitled.
Farmers need to be more responsible
It's not entitlement, I expect every drive to be aware and pay attention, like I do when I drive something that isn't a tractor, sprayer or combine.
Don't count on never hearing from them again. I see a disposition in your future.
I drove one for years and luckily I never had that issue, but when making a left turn I just eased over in the left lane so know one could get around
Nathan
Don't beat yourself up! Drivers need to be aware of any farm equipment on the road.
Anytime a piece of equipment slows down does not mean it's time to pass. Especially when u stayed in the lane of traffic and did not pull over to the right!!
Drivers need to be aware!!
Nathan it wasn't your fault. Unfortunately Farm accidents happen all too often. Many years ago my father was getting ready to turn into our farm driveway with our combine and a semi came up behind him wasn't paying attention apparently Hit the combine rolling it over. The grain auger went through the cab of the semi and just missed the driver. To combine ended up on its side in the front yard to our farm.
Oh Happy belated birthday also Nathan.
Keep an eye on that final drive.. I had a similar hit, 100 hours later had to replace that drive assembly..
Guess will have to fix the blinkers on sprayer
If you use you brain something is big you slow down keep back 😊family farming in Australia 🇦🇺
What gets your dad fired up? He seems pretty chill
Yeah the insurance company is going to try and do that but like the police report said you were both at fault so they're going to have to cover her car but I would try to get them turn signals working don't worry about it just let it go have a great one
Nathan, that is my biggest fear! And visibility in the John Deere sprayers is probably the worst of anything we operate. I hate going down the paved roads.
Years ago a girl ran into the side of one of my trucks at probably 70mph. She never applied her brakes, but actually hit the truck just behind the cab across the ditch in the edge of the wheat field. My driver was completely legal and had the turn signal on. I only had liability on the truck & trailer. It was the 3rd car she had totalled in 6 months. State Farm washed their hands because of only having liability. Until Allstate attempted to collect. Then they had my driver & myself give depositions. I had to repair the truck on my dime. Because the deputy sheriff wouldn't assign blame.
I hate being on public roads.😊
Good morning,
Glad you okay
I always give farm equipment lot of room.
we have had people come around the leader truck with combine coming behind us on a narrow road they have gone into ditch to go around , yea people need to slow down and think
I had the same thing g happen to me when l drove trucks. I had to get in the left lane to turn into the driveway, and a car tried to keep going in the right lane and ended up in the ditch. I think people should have a little more patience when it comes to farm or construction equipment on the road.
In my country, you are supposed to use the right turn signal to show the car behind you that you want to let them pass.
Here come the lawyers.
Shit happens. Don't beat yourself up Nathan. Keep us posted because you will hear from her insurance company. I can promise you that.
Should have just told Dad you wanted to get a Good Thumbnail !
Your lucky,
What day did you plant your double crop beans
It doesn't matter where I go there is always someone behind me in a big hurry even if you are running the speed limit and they will pass you no matter what circumstances are especially bad when they are following farm equipment on the highway
Almost guarantee you will have legal complications. Been there done that in similar situation, even when other party at fault or you have partial fault (court and state law determine fault, not the officer). They follow the money. Farmer must have $ with big green equipment and land. They not only will pursue you legally, but your farm corporations. A few days from now they will magically have medical issues and lawyer up. Make sure you talk with your insurance company. Keep log of details and photos, they will help in court. Thankfully my attorney was better than theirs in court.
Yes I had that happen to me. I was driving and hit 6 cars from the rear. 😝 I wasn’t paying attention but they didn’t know that. I have great insurance and carry way more than I should for this reason. I also have 3 million in an umbrella policy to cma aka cya. The officer is wrong in this instance they are trained to give out tickets and expect you to pay even when you are not at fault. It’s a monopoly what they do. Anyways
In Ohio it's the responsibility of the overtaking vehicle to make a safe overtaking of any vehicle.
The JD sprayer just blew that car of like it was nothing.... Any kind of accident is entirely unpredictable, thats why there called an accident... You can only learn from being involved in one, fortunately no one was injured...
P.s.. fix those indicators..😊
Stay safe..
Darn, I know you want a Hagie, but this is not the way to get it! LOL, these things happen.
accidents happen and thankfully no one was hurt, thats all that matters
That cop better go read the rule book if you have flashers on and a SMV sign oncoming traffic and traffic to the rear has to yield to you. I’ve been down this road before and actually made the cop look really bad in the end he apologized to me for not knowing the rules.
Good video 😎🇺🇸
Probably should cut put the part about the turn lights not working and make sure they are just in case. If they make a claim they have to prove they weren't don't make it easier for them.
People just need to stay back from farm equipment little bit
That same thing happened to me about 3 years ago on sept 2 was in tractor
I drive equipment like the other people will do the stupidest thing possible lol. Another reason to buying a hagie.....mirrors work. But yeah i notice people dont notice turn signals with the flashers on. Sometimes i turn flashes off
If turn signals on sprayer aren't working, you need to get them fixed
Drivers fault. When i see farm equipment on the road.. One i get excited like im 5 years old.. two i go out of my way to give the farmer as much room as they need. Getting “stuck” behind farm equipment is like Christmas for me 😂 sadly my wife can confirm. GIVE FARMERS ROOM. Target, Walmart, and your nail appointment is far less important than what the farmers are trying to accomplish today. Glad nobody was hurt but that car learned a valuable lesson today..
I normally take the entire road when I’m turning on the sprayer.
From experience pulling peanut wagons to the coop on a busy highway always pull to the right slow to stop then make a left. Words of wisdom I attained from the older gentleman who worked there gave me this advice. For the same reason that happened to you. Because he had seen numerous accounts of this where he witnessed these things every day.
This spring had a car "not paying attention" or on their phone, run into the back of the tractor/field cultivator I was driving. Totaled the car and ruined a rolling basket and harrow section, and one shank was bent forward.
My landlord has a car and truck repair shop next door which uses the same driveways as the house apartment we are in. Behind the shop our landlord also rents space for trucking companies and various large vehicle storage. One day I was outside and heard a semi slowing down to turn right into the driveway. To make the turn the semi driver swung the tractor out into the oncoming lane which of course made the trailer go to the left some. Some idiot going too fast in a car behind him thought that he could then pass the semi on the right just as the truck began turning right. The car screeched to a halt and the truck driver absolutely laid on the horn. Luckily there was no contact between the two vehicles. I imagine the car in the worst case scenario could have hit the truck fuel tank and poof we have fire 🔥. 1/2 mile further down the road is a golf course then a marsh then lots of townhomes. I used to mow the neighbors huge lawn and I’d find dozens of gold balls on the lawn per year until I got tired of the golf balls nearly hitting me, talked to the manager and said if I got hit with a golf ball I would go to an attorney who would then contact them.
Had so many over take when your turning come past o'well sh1t happens 😢
Oh one last thing in our situation due to the fact of the no fault auto insurance in Michigan the driver car insurance had no choice but to fix their vehicle just like any other accident. They shouldn't have any reason to bother you except for just to do it out of spite to get money because some reason people think just because we have the equipment they think we have all this money. If people only knew the financial situation that farmers are in with cost of equipment and farm loans. We pay off every year for operations. They wouldn't be so quick to try to take advantage of us in these situations.
Had a guy fly by one of our tractors going 60 mph or so as our guy was turning left, sent the car into the ditch and it rolled, had a 9 year old girl in the back. she didn't get even a scratch.
Similar situation. Lost the insurance fight. Bent the axle on the new at the time 7520.
I'm one of those ass holes , when I use to drive equipment and for left hand turns I was always in the middle of the road. Same way Going down the road I would get over when I could. I was always number one. It would piss some people off and had two or three over the years come and talk to Howard. Oh well just the way it was. Most people don't care about farmers anyways. Just my two cents.
HAVE A GREAT WEEKEND !!!
Shit happens my friend.
People are in too big of a hurry and can’t wait a minute or two for a piece of farm equipment. When I was still living at home on the farm our mail man, who was also a framer, was pulling a wagon full of hay down the road was turning into his driveway when a car went to pass him and hit the tractor flipping into the ditch killing him instantly. I’m retired from our local transit (city buses) and we have the same problem with people passing buses when the bus is at a bus stop.
Thankful no one was hurt. Drivers need to pay attention and slow down when farmers are on the roads with equipment. It’s just common sense!!
Be careful what you say….had several close over the years….flashers-turn are not seen or ignored….should be concerned about the “Corporate Farm”…..litigation craziness is out there.
Nobody likes to be in an accident but they do happen. Brian Brown talked about the pitfalls of turning left when you're in a big piece of machinery because sometimes your view is obstructed. Most people will understand that the farm machinery is going slow for 2 reasons...to turn left or to let traffic past. Maybe the fact that your indicators were not working played a big part in the accident. But it happened and there's nothing you can do about it and no one was hurt which is the main thing. The police give out warnings to the public to be careful when you are on the roads during the planting/harvest time because of the big slow moving machines....Get your indicaters fixed.
you are in farming country individuals must pay attention to farm equipment
Accidents happen.
Good morning
The golden rule in the heavy industry world is eye contact. She shouldn’t have moved without making eye contact with you first! Not that you could make eye contact with her. That means don’t move…period. You’re good, don’t beat yourself up because you can’t prepare for what they don’t even know what they’re going to do yet!
It happens. From a legal point of view never admit anything to the police. If they ask you a question you have to answer honestly but never volunteer info. Let the office determine guilt. I work for a global engineering firm and that is the first thing they teach you if you are in an accident. Check to make sure everyone is ok but never admit guilt even if you are the one that caused the accident! In todays sue happy world you probably be getting a call from someone with her insurance. It's just the world we live in. I would check them flashers though and make sure they work. Even if they make things worse if you used them you have met your legal obligations. I witnessed a local farmer get hit turning left with a brand new JD 4955 back in the early 90's by a truck trying to pass right on the driver side front tire. It had the same light situation with the right side just stopping flashing. Truck was totaled but the tractor was repaired but it never was the same. They traded it a year later because of abnormal tire wear. Funny thing was it was a delivery truck from the local Massey Dealer.
You didn't do anything wrong Nathan you just did your job unfortunately accidents happen I've had a couple accidents with farm machinery I had a 4020 with a with forks on the front I had them tilted down this way he pulled out in front of me I seen a car seat I got panicked and I dropped the forks down into the ground and it lifted me up and flipped me around and doors forks off!!
I've worked in transportation all my life. Always need to be using defensive driving techniques. If you're moving, it was avoidable. You're right to be concerned that you are a company, they are an individual - and they will look to you because of that only. An accident where nobody gets hurt? Here's your sign.... You're lucky to come out so well on this one, it's up to you to not allow it to happen again.
I dont feel sorry for her at all people are in such a hurry
You should look in your mirror before you turn.Left
People should not rear end farm equipment, kind of hard to miss a big piece of equipment, the car was at fault here.
Ive had that almost happen soo many times. My signals work they dont pay attention
Cant believe that your not liable considering your turn signal didn’t work.
This has happened to two elevators in North Dakota the sprayer operator was turning left in the field and both accidents plowed into the sprayer and lots of damage. People got no patience no more there always in a hurry to get no place fast
Car versus sprayer car lost.
I understand yall are not in Mississippi. But here in the Mississippi Delta farm equipment does have the right of way. Very, Very few acoustic involving farm equipment is ruled the farmers fault. Thankfully no one was hurt and the damage was minimal.
I imagine most of us have experienced something similar, road incident that scares both parties or possibly injuries and damage. Perhaps the policeman needs to review the laws regarding farm equipment operating with a SMV emblem. There is NO requirement that you have a mirror for you to look at prior to turning. When following a SMV signed vehicle, the traffic behind is required to yield to the SMV signed equipment. I would suggest, given the damage to the car, you should have John Deere look over the sprayer. I know you've put acres on it since but you need a written record for your files. Praise the Good Lord there was no more damage than you and the driver had.
I operate tractors on our local roads, 16 ft. wide, some people won’t pass no matter how many opportunities you give them, others will do anything to get around you. It blows.
Dont get too upset about it, shit happens. I recently got my CDL and have been driving dump truck and lowboy, and let me tell you, regular people have no patience for equipment/big rigs. that lady should have waited until you stopped or were pulled over.
Great sprayer! How wide are those booms? We run an older john deere 6700 with 60ft booms..
120
@@BorderViewFarms wow you can cover some groud with that thing! Like your videos! Keep up the good work.
I have been driving for over 50 years and I have never tried to pass any equipment unless they pull over because as what happen to you SHE HIT YOU. Zero your fault. Blinker on anything can quit working at any time.