First Hot Fawn? Bowhunting the Second Rut | Bowhunting Whitetails w/ Bill Winke

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  • @JayN4GO
    @JayN4GO 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Those sunsets are postcards from heaven. Don’t take those for granted

    • @bill-winke
      @bill-winke  7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Amen, Jay. Thanks for the comment.

  • @usernamehere6061
    @usernamehere6061 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    Bill, I can only imagine the pressure you put on yourself to be successful. It can add a lot of anxiety this time of year when it seems it will never happen! I know my comment is not going to change how you feel but I wanted to reassure you and hopefully give you some encouragement. I sure hope you get that Jordan buck!

    • @bill-winke
      @bill-winke  7 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      I have been in this situation a time or two. I try not to put on the pressure and make this into a bigger deal than it is. I am sure my sponsors would love to have a photo of me with a nice buck using their products, but I am OK if I end up without shooting one. My guess is that we will get that buck next year when he is 6 years old, if he survives. I know a lot more about him now after thinking through all the would haves and should haves. If he is still around next year I will approach the season a lot differently. Have a great day and thanks for the comment.

    • @912sampson912
      @912sampson912 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I feel a little guilty, when I first started watching you I said you were boring, now I realize I was wrong.. What you are is real! I am really enjoying the content and look forward to the daily updates.

  • @Chris-x8g1m
    @Chris-x8g1m 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Bill. Been watching your videos regularly for few weeks now. You have been spot on with your takes on what the deer are doing daily. I live southeast of Louisville ky and I am seeing the same activities happening here. This morning a fawn in estrus drew two mature bucks out. I haven’t hunted this season due to a shoulder surgery but able to watch my fields from home so living thru your honest videos. Keep ‘‘em coming and to Bryan z2m - there is a world of great hunting outside of Iowa properties. Bill has all the ingredients he needs in this property.

    • @adams2671
      @adams2671 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      It's like he's on every hunt with me. Unreal how much knowledge he has. If he's saying 2nd rut .get ready .

  • @JasonMott-3827
    @JasonMott-3827 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    Love your content bill 👏 feel like i am able to learn something from every video.

    • @bill-winke
      @bill-winke  8 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Thanks Jason. I appreciate your comment. Have a great day.

  • @joshjenkins7075
    @joshjenkins7075 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Just never fails to amaze me how short my favorite time of yr is. Seems like opening day of bow happens then I go to bed that eve and wake up and it's almost over😂. Whitetail deer season create better memories than anything else i can think of. God bless and happy hunting. I believe Bill will get the Jordan buck b4 the close! 🤞

    • @bill-winke
      @bill-winke  7 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Thanks Josh. I appreciate it. It goes by so fast and the older you get, the faster it goes! Dang it!

  • @robertfmccarthy2360
    @robertfmccarthy2360 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Glad to see you out and enjoying the deer. Sometimes we over think, throw the dice (lol) and your seeing deer.
    Be safe, have fun

    • @bill-winke
      @bill-winke  7 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Thanks Robert. I appreciate the comment and the support.

  • @darinfry1543
    @darinfry1543 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Pulling for ya bill! As hard as you've hunted you deserve a change of luck

    • @bill-winke
      @bill-winke  7 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Thanks Darin. I will take all the luck I can get. Have a great day and thanks for the comment.

  • @guardianminifarm8005
    @guardianminifarm8005 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    We sure appreciate the information and experience and the footage to demonstrate it. I am glad you saw a good buck and a # of doe. It can certainly be frustrating going out and not at least seeing deer this time of year. Happy hunting.

  • @tjsfarmandfamily
    @tjsfarmandfamily 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Hey Bill, when I raised whitetails, my fawns would usually come into heat in February and March. Had to cull a fawns once during that time and it was a very precarious situation getting her out of the pen with my main breeder buck guarding her. I think I had to use my 4 wheeler for a shield! Good luck the rest of season.

  • @alexpinnow6509
    @alexpinnow6509 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Really enjoyed the episode and discussion of follow up estrous cycles when some others say it's not real. From what I've read when fawns hit a weight range (recalling 70lbs) they can conceive; I have seen sporadic chasing in mid December and some intense fighting in my short experience hunting late into the season trying to learn the ropes! Stay warm and have fun!

    • @bill-winke
      @bill-winke  7 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Thanks Alex. I just go by what I have read from studies and papers by the experts. My guess is that it is regional. The experts I have paid attention to say that up to 40% of the doe fawns will breed their first year in "good ranges". To me that implies lots of food and super healthy deer. Good luck.

  • @elkmo41
    @elkmo41 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    In the same boat as a landowner, habitat improver, hunter……..luck is a bigger factor than we want to acknowledge!

  • @kapperoutdoors
    @kapperoutdoors 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Great episode. Hard work and diligence may pay off!!

    • @bill-winke
      @bill-winke  7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Thanks Joe. Have a great day and good luck to you.

  • @bjmgolf3651
    @bjmgolf3651 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I have to agree that the second rut can be a great time to be in the woods. Right around this time of year I have seen a decent amount of movement with bucks chasing does or a fawn. Hopefully you guys can get a shot at a solid buck ! Keep up the great work !

    • @bill-winke
      @bill-winke  7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Thanks for the comment. I am still seeing it on my trail cameras (mostly after dark). Good luck to you too.

    • @bjmgolf3651
      @bjmgolf3651 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @ You are welcome Bill. Appreciate the content and insightful tips given out. Thank you

  • @zacnorman8702
    @zacnorman8702 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Keep it up Bill. You have been a huge inspiration for me to keep going. Thanks for the content. My 9 year old son has got 2 does and a buck this year and now my daughter wants to shoot her first deer. Im trying to get her on her first deer then try to shoot a decent buck yet this year in Ohio and it's so pressured right where im at. We have until Feb so we shall see haha.

  • @lwdeer1
    @lwdeer1 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I am really enjoying your videos. I am right now trying to figure this third hunting season of my new property. Thanks for your knowledge and struggles this year! Good luck to you all.

    • @RS-ms1bz
      @RS-ms1bz 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Definitely takes time. I'm on my fourth year and learned a ton this season.

  • @MillardRanch
    @MillardRanch 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Interesting year we’ve had so far Bill, I hunted our ranch in NE Oklahoma this morning and saw a buck I know rutting with a hot doe. This same nice 8 pointer with tall brows was filmed locked down with a doe about 28 days ago when our rut typically kicks in. I’m still trying to get a 7 year old buck I’ve been after with my recurve the last couple of years, passing everything else, so hang in there for the Jordan buck. You’ll get your opportunity at him eventually. I’m seeing similar patterns where his range is tighter this season. Good luck!

  • @Julie-u6r
    @Julie-u6r 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    awesome to see second rut action I'm trying to get a gameplan together planning a couple days was out yesterday saw one 8 pt moving in my backyard I'm in Wisconsin I like December 10th i know that doesn't work for you hope you get a couple more hunts in thanks for the encouragement!

  • @doneime875
    @doneime875 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I can’t believe the season is winding down already. Feels like it just started.

    • @seanbarrett657
      @seanbarrett657 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I agree. Especially here in michigan. It just finally cooled off.

    • @bill-winke
      @bill-winke  7 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      It goes by so fast. It really stinks. The older I get the faster it seems to go!

  • @kokadjooutdoors620
    @kokadjooutdoors620 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Love the videos more relatable to the average hunter

  • @floyd6545
    @floyd6545 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Good luck, Bill. Stay after them.

    • @bill-winke
      @bill-winke  7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Thanks for the comment. We will keep trying. Have a great day.

  • @mspahn1967
    @mspahn1967 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I got a cell camera out in MO and it's blowing up with bucks opening scrapes and chasing yearlings right now. Headed up Friday to take advantage of it.

    • @bill-winke
      @bill-winke  7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      That is awesome. Good luck.

  • @troybrake5686
    @troybrake5686 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Looks just like the 8 i been hunting and it looked like 2 different mature bucks were all over that area and it looked like they was after a fawn! My buddy said the rut was dead and i said i thought so too but my cameras seem to be saying different! I jave a couple of the 360 pro cameras and they are game changers on a new property were you don't really know were they come and go from! Good luck brother! My deer daylighted at 720 am for the first time and i was working, wush me luck

  • @RickBarber-j9y
    @RickBarber-j9y 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    It never ceases to amaze me how many “experienced” hunters who think fawns don’t get bred their first fall will tell you they saw a yearling doe with their fawn.
    Maybe math isn’t their forte.

    • @bill-winke
      @bill-winke  7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I just try to go by what the experts say and they all say that in good ranges, as many as 40% of the doe fawns get bred their first fall.

    • @RickBarber-j9y
      @RickBarber-j9y 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@bill-winke
      I watched a doe fawn visit a scrape during the peak of the rut this season. She hung out there for about 4 minutes, rubbing the over hanging branch smelling the scrape and then peed in it.

  • @tedrickabus2087
    @tedrickabus2087 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Dude.... "nothing huge "? ... i'd mount that all the way to his hooves and put him in my foyer!. Glad you saw a couple at least and that buck gets the hackles going for sure!! I'm mucking it out right along with you guys. Good luck. Hunt safe. Respect the game. Honor the tradition.

  • @RS-ms1bz
    @RS-ms1bz 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    Bill, I learned a lot about my property this season. One, I can't continue to rely on whether or not we get fall rains for my food plots. Two, I definitely have to come up with some way to keep water in my water holes without relying on fall rains. Three, with failed food plots because of no rain and extremely warm temperatures this fall, I see the immense value in regeneration pockets. It is where all the activity was this fall. Being a totally wooded property with thousands of acres just like it surrounding my 98 acres, it finally came to me that the only fool proof habitat improvement is regeneration pockets and bedding pockets. That's my one and only focus this off season. I'll definitely plant my food plots if and only if it seems likely we will get fall rains, but I won't ever be caught flat-footed again, not having a fall back plan. Man, my chainsaw is going to get a workout the next few months!!

    • @bill-winke
      @bill-winke  8 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Are you going to use more fire in the future to keep the new growth in the early stages? Good luck.

    • @RS-ms1bz
      @RS-ms1bz 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@bill-winke Burning is too risky here, and the local fire departments and forestry department really frown on it. That's something I will have to research on how to keep it regenerating over time.

    • @marchhair01
      @marchhair01 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@RS-ms1bzI’ve had fair luck running a brush hog through the timber ILO fire after some TSI.

    • @jordan.couch_wtp
      @jordan.couch_wtp 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@RS-ms1bzwhere are you located that fire is too risky?

    • @RS-ms1bz
      @RS-ms1bz 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@jordan.couch_wtp Allegheny Front in WV. I asked the fire department and forest department about burning a small food plot a couple years ago, and I was told absolutely not. The terrain and the high possibility of satellite fires starting from embers was their reason. If that happened, there would be no way for equipment to access the area to fight the fire. I was told not to even have a campfire. You don't know steep until you you've seen the terrain along the Front.

  • @tobpitbull
    @tobpitbull 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    That 8 looked real big on the body… big front chest…

    • @bill-winke
      @bill-winke  7 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      He is a good looking buck, for sure. Have a great day.

  • @johndaniels2922
    @johndaniels2922 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I saw a fawn a few years beginning of march being chased like she was a hot doe and probably 4 in the beginning of February through out the years

  • @edwardclark5211
    @edwardclark5211 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Dream Big brother 🙏

    • @bill-winke
      @bill-winke  7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Thanks Edward. Same to you.

  • @shanetrudell4061
    @shanetrudell4061 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    That 8 should be a good target for next season huh bill?i love those tall tight racks i had an 8 last season like that he was 2 1/2 and i passed him up seen him in the neighbors field 1 time this season.

    • @bill-winke
      @bill-winke  7 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      That is what I am thinking but if Jordan gets a chance at him or my brother in law (late season tag) I would be fine with that too.

  • @JCDoutdoors1
    @JCDoutdoors1 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Love the videos Bill! Do you have any camera recommendations for filming hunts?

    • @bill-winke
      @bill-winke  7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Keep it inexpensive at first until you are certain it is for you. It is not as much "fun" as you might think. So, with that in mind, look for a basic 4k camera such as the Sony AX100 with an external mic like the Sony ECMXYST1M. Add a Varizoom lens controller, a couple of adapters to make the Varizoom work with that camera, a cheap fluid head and basic camera arm setup and you can film most of what happens. We have had good success with this setup with minimal cost (compared to the true professional setups). You can spend a lot more so be careful. What you get by spending more is usually better audio capability and better low light performance, but this simple set up will get you started. You can always upgrade if you decide you like it. Good luck.

    • @JCDoutdoors1
      @JCDoutdoors1 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@bill-winkethanks Bill!

  • @KGPNBK
    @KGPNBK 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    My wife connected with her Dream Buck on Saturday. I was able to video her. It is on my channel now. Enjoy🤣

    • @bill-winke
      @bill-winke  7 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I will definitely take a look. Please tell her congratulations from me!

    • @KGPNBK
      @KGPNBK 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      When our state sells every hunter 10+ Doe permits and there is severe EHD around you definitely have to get creative and think out of the box. 😂

  • @archersexton1009
    @archersexton1009 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    My best ever buck came on dec.11.

  • @aidencook1055
    @aidencook1055 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Bill, will you or Jordan rifle hunt at all? We just wrapped up the 9 day rifle season here in Wisconsin, and your description of the secondary rut explains the amount of chasing and rutting behavior I saw.
    By the way, I just got my Bowhunting Whitetails sweatshirt and it is the most comfortable one I've ever worn!

    • @bill-winke
      @bill-winke  7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      That is awesome Aiden. I appreciate that. Jordan gets the credit for that. I have shot does with my muzzleloader in the past and Jordan has shot a number of deer with the muzzleloader. It has been quite a long time since I shot a buck with a gun. I think the last one was a Realtree Milk River hunt probably 20 years ago. Borrowed that gun from the rancher.

  • @noral101
    @noral101 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Are they liking the sorghum better than the corn now? And when did they start feeding on it?

    • @bill-winke
      @bill-winke  7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      They have been eating it, but not as heavily as they are corn nearby, so I may have to revise my plans for next year. But, I am not going to judge just yet. I want to see what role the sorghum plays in the late season. Have a great day and thanks for the comment.

  • @optimuscrime608
    @optimuscrime608 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Bill, what is that four wheeled machine you rode in on? Thanks!!
    If anyone else knows feel free to chime in! Thanks yall!

    • @bill-winke
      @bill-winke  7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Those are called Xidar Spyders.

  • @MeandMrBlue
    @MeandMrBlue 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I've had one at my house the last 2 days

  • @brentbarnetthunting
    @brentbarnetthunting 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Great video, Bill! Any updates on the old fat buck that you were hunting in October, or did he disappear during the rut?

    • @RS-ms1bz
      @RS-ms1bz 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I think with the lack of food during this time of, Fatty has left the property and has set up at a McDonalds lol

  • @dwbowhunterable
    @dwbowhunterable 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I know you guys are happy to not be soaked and freezing.

    • @bill-winke
      @bill-winke  7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Amen brother!

  • @deepwood4
    @deepwood4 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I bagged a nice 10 point on Sunday. He seemed to be searching and I'd never seen him before.
    Full disclosure. I didn't do any scouting and I don't use cameras. So he could have been in the area all along,but I got the feeling he was a rover.

  • @sureguy8124
    @sureguy8124 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Are late doe fawn that bred, are their next yr fawn smaller in size due to a fawn bred and born 1 month behind because in the past I've shot fawns the size of medium dogs. Tiny

    • @bill-winke
      @bill-winke  7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Usually they are smaller. In good areas (plenty of food) a good number of the spike bucks you see at 1 1/2 years old were born to does that were bred as fawns. According to the experts, those bucks eventually catch up in body and antler size.

  • @JasonGirten
    @JasonGirten 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I understand that you are big on plots and food. I was wondering if you had many small creeks, stream's or ponds to hunt near by? I also know that you put in a lot of work around the apple trees and haven't seen you hunting near them. It's a shame that you couldn't use minerals in your area or lighter restrictions on mineral. I really enjoy your videos. I haven't hunted in almost 20 years, but I really enjoy hurting videos.

    • @bill-winke
      @bill-winke  7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Jason, there was a grove of apple trees in the area where the buck I was hunting was spending a lot of his time, but it is super hard to get in there without being seen so I am going to hunt it early season next year before all the corn comes out. Another thing I learned about that buck this year that I can possibly use next year if he survives. Thanks for watching.

  • @mikedarr1521
    @mikedarr1521 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Bill what is the brand of those electric scooters

    • @bill-winke
      @bill-winke  7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Called Xidar Spyders.

  • @Kenzie13nicola
    @Kenzie13nicola 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Don Higgins says there is no second rut. My wife killed a buck chasing a doe yesterday 🤷🏻‍♂️

    • @bill-winke
      @bill-winke  7 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Maybe in his area is not a typical thing, but biologists have talked about it for decades.

  • @travissmith-wz5nc
    @travissmith-wz5nc 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Turn jordan loose with the firearm. 360 buckhammer, 350 legend.

    • @bill-winke
      @bill-winke  7 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      They would all be dead! Thanks for the support.

    • @travissmith-wz5nc
      @travissmith-wz5nc 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @bill-winke she belongs in michigan!!!!! 😆 🤣

  • @nicschaalma3508
    @nicschaalma3508 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Why don’t you loop around for top access to that blind?
    Do you not have access from those fields ? No neighbors that would allow it ?

    • @bill-winke
      @bill-winke  6 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I can, but then we have to come in across that open field and back out that way. That is where the deer were at dark. It was a roll of the dice, like I mentioned. That blind/stand location is a good one, but the hardest to get in and out of without alerting deer on this entire farm. Plus, with the NW wind it would have blown our scent to a lot of deer on the way in had we come in from the north.

    • @nicschaalma3508
      @nicschaalma3508 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @ couldn’t you park a truck up top. Walk into the blind.
      Walk back out down through the bottom. And then take the cameraman’s truck around to get the other vehicle ? I just wonder what you bump walking in. Where you expect the deer to come from. You threw scent down all these bedding points as you walked/drove up and through the cover. Not surprising nothing came out of there like the night prior.
      We’re always taught exit entry. Just seems like more effort with the entry could help your hunt sightings.
      It’s all I thought about that whole episode.

  • @Matt-33
    @Matt-33 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Looking forward to Jordan punching her bow tag. Someone has to provide for the family!

    • @bill-winke
      @bill-winke  7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Exactly. I have been useless.

  • @dougboyd5851
    @dougboyd5851 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Funny you mention second rut and Higgins says there is no such thing...

    • @bill-winke
      @bill-winke  7 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      It is nothing like the primary rut, but for sure there are still does that will be bred and doe fawns that will be bred, so you can call it whatever you want - they are still breeding! Good luck.

  • @jeffjames9568
    @jeffjames9568 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Can you not bowhunt during gun season?

    • @bill-winke
      @bill-winke  8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      No we can't here, unfortunately.

    • @jeffjames9568
      @jeffjames9568 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      @@bill-winke that might be the worst rule ever

    • @jeffm.1256
      @jeffm.1256 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@jeffjames9568I second that. 🫤

  • @tedrickabus2087
    @tedrickabus2087 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    You lads need to crack a window when running the space heater so you don't die.! The squeegee is cute, but CO poisoning isnt... lol...

    • @bill-winke
      @bill-winke  7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      We don't run the heater for more than about 30 minutes at a time. The LP burns really wet too and that makes the windows fog over even faster. Thanks for the comment.

    • @tedrickabus2087
      @tedrickabus2087 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Just worried about our friends Bill and Carson! We are manifesting this for you: Big buck down on Thursday night! Say it with me people!!

  • @Tradarcher-xy
    @Tradarcher-xy 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    You probably can’t say publicly but if you can how is the neighborhood? You mentioned low density in your area is that from neighbors over harvesting? What is your plan? Sounds like you need to pass all young bucks and does to boost the population.

  • @timmytim6427
    @timmytim6427 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Found few does today 110yds easy money for a 350 Legend

    • @bill-winke
      @bill-winke  7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Congrats! Good day in the field. Have a great day.

  • @moualor5364
    @moualor5364 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Talking trash and to much.

  • @Bryan-z2m
    @Bryan-z2m 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Should’ve kept your other properties.

    • @bill-winke
      @bill-winke  8 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

      I wanted to get back closer to my family. This was the only farm I found on the market in two years of looking.

    • @RS-ms1bz
      @RS-ms1bz 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      I think in a few more years, Bill will be extremely happy with all the work he's put into this property.

    • @markseifert-g9h
      @markseifert-g9h 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Tip of the cap for letting the old farm go and start building from the ground up - hard to do!

    • @brianmiller1580
      @brianmiller1580 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Hate that your having a rough season....but I'm not gonna lie it's kinda nice to see even a pro can have a tough season every once in a while. Just makes your content more relatable us regulars guy's.