@@lizwilson51 in this case I disagree on Djokovic statement. Sinner is totally innocent and Djokovic pointed out only on the equality of treatment which is fair but not linked to the question he received from the journalist.
@@nathanrsm73 So are Tara Moore, and Simona Halep...And Yet, They were dragged through the mud, and through a long suspension and suffered long delays in the Law Courts... to clear their name! You are being Disrespectful towards the innocent players, who Suffered Greatly and never had the PREFERENTIAL Treatment - like SINNER had!
The guy is incredible. Always an over achiever. He can speak 11 languages. In just English I’ve always been amazed how well Spoken he is. Even slang and sense of humor etc. He really knows the language well.
I think Murray would be better at that. He's more level-headed and fair and frank than any of the Top 3. He's also respected and in the past had been an advocate for various worthy causes.
The fact that every player parses their words so carefully tells that nobody wants to say anything controversial right before the last Major of the year. There doesn't seem to by a unifying feeling behind Sinner, which is probably more the fault of how the situation was handled than his actual innocence or guilt. Tennis is not doing itself any favors at the moment with its wildly inconsistent application of its own rules...we saw it again in Winston-Salem with Michelson not getting defaulted after striking a fan with an angry ball.
I believe that in Jannik's case, the difference with others similar cases consist in the fact that his team was immediately able to give a satisfactory and proofed explanation. What has not been said is that after the first test the commitee answered back, if your justification is true in the second test we should expect this amount of substance left in your body. The number matched and that's the reason why they didn't further punished him, also the quantity, apparently, wouldn't improve the performance.
Cheater. He will be banned from the sport. This is not going away. Real anti-doping agencies are getting involved. The media and the hired shills on social media will gaslight you until the end. Remember Lance Armstrong.
@@miloshevmilos4392 everything is important in order to determine the innocence or the guilt, and for sure the quantity counts. If I understood well, when a person in this situation is able to give an explanation and this explanation is consistent and verifiable, then that dictates the outcome, and I believe that the standard at the moment is based on this.
You call them correct? I call them hypocrites. They know very well that the percentage in the blood was 0.000001 milligrams, a quantity declared inconsistent and checked with the quantity that can be assumed for a very small error of the physio, TRANSMITTED BY THE CARE OF HIS FINGER AND HANDLING SINNER WITHOUT GLOVES. TO THESE ENVIOUS PEOPLE I SAY THAT YOU MUST BEAT SINNER ON THE FIELD NOT TALKING LIKE BROKEN RECORDS, WITHOUT HAVING THE BALLS TO OPENLY ACCUSE HIM. SHAME.
Risposte a metà, ci sta, perché sono degli avversari del ns Jannik. Chi afferma che per Jannik è stato fatto un percorso speciale o che doveva essere fermato immediatamente dopo le 2 analisi con Clostebol o che dovevano Sinner e ITIA far sapere subito di cosa era accaduto, dimenticano e aggiungo anche delibiramente: Marco Bortolotti ha avuto lo stesso trattamento di Jannik Sinner, Jannik Sinner ha immediatamente capito da dove venivano i milardesimi di Clostebol che gli esperti considerano che non ha avuto NESSUN effetto doping, che la riservatezza fino a delibera sono a tutela di chi viene accusato di Doping. Invece la questione vera è che si è fatto un polverone per una leggerezza aggiungo grave che non ha comportato nessu effetto dopante, anzi, adesso Sinner viene crocifisso e portato come cattivo esempio. Sempre di più FORZA JANNIK!!! 💪🎾🇮🇹👏
@@MondoRockGP Dobbiamo capire che Nole è anche un politico, la sua PTPA non dico che è in guerra ma sicuramente non è molto amica dell'ATP, quindi ogni occasione è buona per tirare acqua al suo mulino
@MondoRockGP bro shutup. You've pasted the same comment everywhere. No one's gives a shit for Ur stupid explanation. Carrot head tested positive. Simple
How can you treat in the same way someone who provides every single proof of their innocence with someone who provides none, how does your justice work? xD
@@biomax1864 how his head works: the popularity opinion is to criticise , he will criticise, if the popular opinion is to defend the player he will defend the player. These people just follow the current
ENOUGH WITH THE USELESS CHATTER AND FALSE ATTEMPTS TO MAKE PEOPLE BELIEVE IN A FALSE REALITY ABOUT SINNER. THIS IS THE VERDICT OF ITIA, READ IT. www.itia.tennis/media/yzgd3xoz/240819-itia-v-sinner.pdf
What happens here, is that djokovic is always in steorids but hides it but defending other who also are in em. But im trying do shine the thruth about this sithyy players myself by winning 30 grand slams and showing everyone that i can be better with the steroids thta tey use
@a.m.m5020 my dad is dead, since my age of 2 so resorting to insulting my family is a low move. Federer was performing on extremely high level even older than djokovic? Does it mean he was on steroids too?
@@b.hornetiii.6771 I remember the face expression of many players when Djokovic did not want to get vaccinated. He said that it was a personal choice. Never seen a personal choice that makes people at risk of becoming sick themselves. As unvaccinated people may spread the virus. Particularly considering that the people at risk were seniors and people with underlying conditions.
Cheater. He will be banned from the sport. This is not going away. Real anti-doping agencies are getting involved. The media and the hired shills on social media will gaslight you until the end. Remember Lance Armstrong.
You know what's annoying about Djokavic fans. I wonder if he had been 80th in the world for 20 years and never won any tournaments you'd still praise him. Bandwaganing at its best.
@@astrahcat1212 Serbia have many players just like you described it, whole Nation knows them and respect them... some of them beat you many timers in Davis Cup.
@@astrahcat1212 So, in your country you give the same treatment to an athlete who is the best of all times and some random player? Do you people even listen to yourselves?
ENOUGH WITH THE USELESS CHATTER AND FALSE ATTEMPTS TO MAKE PEOPLE BELIEVE IN A FALSE REALITY ABOUT SINNER. THIS IS THE VERDICT OF ITIA, READ IT. www.itia.tennis/media/yzgd3xoz/240819-itia-v-sinner.pdf
As an outsider's point of view, yes Yannik is innocent. But having that "thing" in his system, surely aided his strength in playing which makes it not fair with other players.
@@stevelily1763 😂😂 keep trying. Who gave jokecovid the “secret” magic potion in the middle of a game? Who didnt wanted to get tested before davis cup game? Who has a weird chip on his chest and never spoke about it? Who is still fit at 37 only a couple weeks after surgery?? Must be superman! 😂😂
The integrity of GOATkovic is flawless. He almost always sides on the right side, irrespective of if the establishment is sitting on the other side. He has a brave heart for sure and def not the lapdog like the other 2 greats.
He didn't say much, just things about that PTP that no player cares about. Then, he said they should have clear protocols and standards for all the players, which is true.
The most lucid and rational response was from Novak. Jannik, imo, was let down by two careless members of his team. The nub is, as Novak said, that the ability to have the means (money) to get the best representation counts. In the news now is the Mike Lynch case. He drowned in his yacht while celebrating the positive outcome of his 10 year battle in the US courts. This battle cost him $30m. He stated, before he died, that, had he not had these funds, he would not have had justice. He also said that this system of justice is unequal, that justice should not depend on money. But, unfortunately, it does, especially in the US, in the rule of law in general.
They know very well that the percentage in the blood was 0.000001 milligrams, a quantity declared inconsistent and checked with the quantity that can be assumed for a very small error of the physio, TRANSMITTED BY THE CARE OF HIS FINGER AND HANDLING SINNER WITHOUT GLOVES. TO THESE ENVIOUS PEOPLE I SAY THAT YOU MUST BEAT SINNER ON THE FIELD NOT TALKING LIKE BROKEN RECORDS, WITHOUT HAVING THE BALLS TO OPENLY ACCUSE HIM. SHAME.
@@MondoRockGPthe quantity you're talking about is only the trace they found. It's not the original amount. By the way, are you a bot or what? You leave the same comment over and over again.
All Sinner's previous tests were negative. According to Roddick, if Sinner was using that actual substance in those quantities deliberately, he must be the worst doper ever!!!
There is a (33-page) judgment formulated by 3 of the world's top experts regarding doping (2 among them didn't even know the player's name, it was anonymous) but I'm sure that not one of the people who are commenting have read it (and will never read it). It makes comparisons with other players (usually the Halep case) not saying the key differences: Sinner and his lawyers were able to prove immediately how the fact had happened and (another thing that people in bad faith don't say), the quantity traced was completely different, last but not least, in one case it was a direct (unintentional) contamination, in Sinner's case instead it was INDIRECT and unintentional. That's why he was found NOT GUILTY (NO FAULT and NO NEGLIGENCE). This is what the judgment says, the point is that you about the judgment DON'T GIVE A FUCK, you want the "blood", you want the guilty regardless of what the judges decided, because again, you don't care about his innocence or guilt; what you want is the conviction. I forgot: the judgment is online, it can be read by anyone (I know, who care, better to wrote some bullshit comment).
But da goat. Muh, muh goat sayz sinner should be banned. Duh goat. Muh goat. Don't allow sinner to be goat, ban sinner before sinner is better than muh goat. Goat. Da goat. Goat... ... ... ( More meaningless nonsense about a goat)
Viktor Troicki was suspended for 18 months at the peak of his career, despite testing negative. This was solely due to a misunderstanding with the medical staff. All of his appeals were rejected.
Novak really knows how to lay the cards clearly on the table without beating around the bush! A call for change as obviously power and money play a huge part in swinging the pendulum in the player's favour.
He repeated a dozen times themes that wanted to imply that Jannik was a drug addict and then ran away. A hypocrite who went around and around without having the balls to accuse. A very small coward.
What I'm sure of is, if they found this substance in Novak, it would be the end for him. They would bury him. Novak is on point in this case, well spoken man.
You are wrong Djokovic is the biggest player in tennis, but because of Federer’s advanced age and injuries, as well as Nadal’s injuries, it was necessary to have a famous player. Therefore, due to the support of sponsorship, advertising and betting companies, Djokovic was protected, but after his retirement, documents will be published that condemn him and expose his use of doping.
Jean-François Naud, director of the WADA laboratories in Montreal; Xavier de la Torre, scientific director of the WADA laboratories in Rome; David Cowan, professor emeritus at King's College London and head of the WADA laboratories in London (the three experts of the medical commission called to confer with the independent tribunal that judged the case) said in their technical report that the accidental contamination is not only possible, but in this case it is the most plausible explanation. Notice: they didn't even know the name of the player. The analyse was anonimous, so that their opinion could not be influenced.
But why does everyone think that the rules were not the same for everyone? Sinner clarified this in a press conference. He said that he was not suspended because he was able to IMMEDIATELY demonstrate both when and how he was infected by the substance. His explanation was considered valid, so there was no need to proceed with the preventive suspension. Players who receive an immediate suspension is because they do not know how they were infected and must investigate what happened.
This is the very reason that it's fishy in my mind... He immediately knew what was the problem... unless you do it on purpose you cannot immediately know or have a reason. It's like his team was ready in case he got caught. A well oiled machine.
@@Arlhem Does it seem strange to you?? How can a quantity of less than a billionth of a gram make you suspicious? It is an infinitesimal quantity, completely insufficient to cause even the slightest physical benefit. Fortunately for him it was easy to immediately trace the problem because a member of his team, the one in charge of massaging Sinner, was treating a wound on his hand, so suspicions immediately fell on that ointment. In fact they saw immediately that the ointment contained the incriminated substance, but the player could not have known it. I think it was wrong to release the news. Anti-doping organizations should only make a news public when a quantity considered sufficient to increase physical performance is detected in the blood. Here we are talking about less than a billionth of a gram. Letting the news out damaged Sinner's image for no reason.
@@danielexcf789 you realize that an infinitesimal quantity as you call it can show up in the system because it has been 3 to 6 weeks since the last doping took place? you cannot use this as a proof of innocence; try again. the entire story with the cut and the spray is a complete joke. he is world number one and wants us to believe he is surrounded by a physio and a conditioning coach who are amateurs? the exact opposite is likely the case!!!!
I don’t know the exact details of the cases of Halep, Sharapova, Cañas, Gasquet, Puerta, Brooksby, Ymer, Jarry, etc. I do know that they all got suspended or docked and Sinner barely got docked. I also know that Sinner is ranked number one and the others were not when this event happened for them. I also know that he had a very good explanation for his case. Henceforth, it’s not black and white. It’t something that needs clear protocol and all players need access to the same support systems to fight their cases.
I think Djokovic is very gutsy by tackling the governing body and continuing to promote his PTPA which is a thorn in the ATP's eye. Fuming against Sinner or his allegedly jealous opponents is the easier thing to do. Fritz basically said the same thing but less well spoken than Djokovic, but Novak has the advantage of a native speaker. Oh wait.
you don't know why? he's the most senior, most experienced, most, probably, respected in this field now with his peer all or almost all retired. Of course he can have that observation and audacity to say. The other players are much younger! They still have a heck of a career out there and didn't or shouldn't say too much or utter too strong opinionated words.
@@Piedpied951It's not about experience or age because Đoković was always speaking facts! Take a look at other older athletes and you will notice that they can't talk like Novak and he is the smartest among all tennis players. When Đoković was very young he was saying Kosovo is Serbia! While that time the western countries were trying to separate that part of Serbia and they are still trying! You don't know much about Đoković but even less about Serbia and Serbian brave people!
Sinner and the Failed Drug Test: 1) the substance is an off-the-counter spray readily available in the Italian market. His team should was careless not to have pre-checked the substance. 2) the quantity ingested was so negligible (a billionth gram) that it could not have enhanced performance. 3) Sinner was able to point to this product immediately, and investigators were able to ascertain the source; and further testing clarified that if the residue quantity matched, then that is ok. So, it was actually one failed test, not two. 4) It is doubtful whether the status or financial means of the player had anything to do with the outcome; because a 350th ranked player was also exonerated on the same product.
Officially , 2 failed drugs tests. The reason for the failure ,that has never been tested in a court of law, was accepted. The drug tested should be "zero". It should never , ever be in your test. Any amount more than "zero" is a failure. Drug cheats are extremely good at cheating the system. Zero tolerance is the only way forward. Cycling has never recovered from the drugs scandals and tennis is clearly trying to avoid that scandal but it will fall and all the players that spoke in this video clearly have something to hide. They don't talk for a reason ..what could that reason be ... Fear of ATP fines? Or do you think they have done something aswell that they would prefer to keep quiet.
Sinner's story is really suspect. They found the perfect story immediately after he was caught with the substance. In their story the substance comes from a third person. This is the scenario every lawyer would dream of.
To all the ignorant people that are commenting on this unfortunate episode (that’s clear) . Point 1: Did He takes vantage with 000000000.1 billion grams to improve performance???? NO. Point 2: why they didn’t stopped him from playing? Just because the situation was straight away clarified, and they found out where the doping was coming from. Point 3: STOP speculating on rubbish. He is the really number 1 and He is showing to everyone.
If they knew (immediately) where it came from then they knew it was a banned substance! = 0% (zero) tolerance! Excuses because they got caught! Why didn't Sinner sack his staff immediately, why wait till public backlash? They found the substance when it was already waning in his body, imagine if they tested him a month before? The billionth of a gram is actually a significant amount as these steroids are measured in nanograms. They don't stay in the body for long, but are quite effective. Your argument is pointless because no one believes it. Stop insulting everyone's intelligence dude!
It is completely irrelevant now who is saying what! Rules are rules and they must be equal for everyone and strictly followed! If it is not so, then they are not rules, and without them there is no system. Without a system, there is no sport and everything is a farce and a joke. Tennis is one of the sports that is completely tainted by politics and hypocrisy. Novak Djokovic has completely exposed all that and that's actually why he is the GOAT in every sense!
Sbagli. I casi sono diversi e non tutti uguali . Sinner non ha assunto nulla per via orale,come altri Sinner ha dimostrato al 100% di essere innocente a differenza di altri .Giusto quindi farlo giocare.
why? Because he's the most senior, most experienced, most, probably, respected in this field now with his peer all or almost all retired. Of course he can have that observation and audacity to say what he said. The other players are much younger! They still have a heck of a career out there and didn't or shouldn't say too much or utter too strong opinionated words. After 20 + years and 24 slams, you should have gained some right to represent all other (younger) players. Only what, maybe two other players older than him? ( Within top 150)
you know why? he's the most senior, most experienced, most, probably, respected in this field now with his peer all or almost all retired. Of course he can have that observation and audacity to say what he said. The other players are much younger! They still have a heck of a career out there and didn't or shouldn't say too much or utter too strong opinionated words.
@@Piedpied951When he was very young he was saying Kosovo is Serbia! While that time the western countries were trying to separate that part of Serbia and they are still trying! You don't know much about Đoković but even less about Serbia and Serbian brave people!
@@nathanrsm73 Claro, porque el mundo anglosajón se ha adueñado del discurso a nivel mundial...... Si alguien está interesado en la opinión de Carlos, mejor que aprenda español y punto.
I agree that the rules should be the same for everybody, going forward. So, let's move forward. We can't change the past for other players, so blaming Jannik for passionately defending himself against a disqualification from the sport which has been his whole life and villifying him will not help anyone. Jannik's case will probably help players in the future in similar cases.
When Novak was banned entering Australia, it wasnt based on medical test, they havent took rational decision based on some real evidence, but political and bureaucracy act.Healty guy, one of the best world athletes was considered high risk, who would be able to play 5 hours tennis match isnt healty.Here you have a test, medical, hemical, material proof the Sinner's body has been contaminated.Do you really believe his team on this level professional sport didnt know what they were doing. This cream had on the packaging a clear note "doping".So they dont know to read, not knowing what they were doing, and they are part of team of the world No1 tennis player.
When you visit another country and you don't follow their rules then they have every right to ban you. Don't want to follow rules don't go to said country.
@@WonderWhatHappenedWhat the hell he was doing at their border?They said at first he has all the papers needed for exemption and he may board to a plane.Thats why he was at front door, but aussie government needed a case for internal political reasons and Novak was just excellent target person.
on TOP of that, the aussie border officials put novx in a cvd prison hotel, and fed him extremely SUBSTANDARD food for a world class athlete!! thats despicable!
@@WonderWhatHappened Well then how was Nadal able to enter? He didn't quarantine the amount of days required yet he was able to enter Explain that then We been over this already Some non-vaccinated players were also already let in regardless how they did they slip in then? It wasn't a problem until Novak tried to entered of course funny that
Back in 1989, infamous Ben Johnson tested positive for the anabolic steroid stanozolol and was stripped of his gold medal at the 1988 Seoul Olympics. Of the eight athletes who competed in the 100m final - five of them subsequently failed drugs tests. On the other hand, American sprinter Carl Lewis- who “won” the event, had failed 3 drug tests in the months leading up to the Olympics but the USOC covered for him so he wouldn’t be banned. Today Ben Johnson coaches aspiring soccer stars at the Genova International Soccer School in Italy. He still burns with what he sees as the unfairness of his treatment by the IOC, making conspiratorial claims that he was sacrificed while others were “protected who were taking the same thing.”
That's wild. This is why sometimes I don't care for sports it's crap like this that puts me off what's the point of watching sports if it's going to be biased and not fair? There is no point You could see the bias in Tennis easily when the big 3 were playing and that to put me off There's no respect for the players at all and some athletes already have a bigger advantage just from where they are born. Had this happened to Novak.. oh man... they probably wold have banned him for ever
Lance Armstrong ha vinto 7 Tour perché si grazie al doping ma anche perché era più forte. Anche se Fritz e Tiafoe si dopassero non vincono gli Slam perché non sono campioni ma buoni giocatori.
@@iamdaliborI’m a Novak fan, but he’s probably been covered for already - I think all of the big 3 have been covered for. Now with Novak, maybe it would be a bit different but for sure he has had special treatment.
The Bortolotti case should have been brought to the attention of the media immediately, at least his colleagues could do without fueling untrue rumors. He had the same problem as Sinner and the same resolution even though we are talking about the number 350 in the world. Far from favoritism for the number 1. Furthermore, Bortolotti, like Sinner, is Italian and this is not a coincidence. The product in question, which is used via spray, is on sale in Italy without a medical prescription to buy it. This can certainly increase the probability of error.
Here's my opinion, Tiafoe has done too much patron, Fritz is a natural blonde, Carlos is the Spanish Jerry Lewis of tennis, Sinner looks doped already without dope, the only one addressing this situation was Novak, this is why he's the GOAT
@@shinjiuuh Me too 🤣 I can’t believe I didn’t see Jerry Lewis in Carlos before! - just watched Carlos lose in straight sets and all I saw was Jerry Lewis !!! 🤣
It is not up to tennis players associations to judge on doping. He just seized an opportunity for marketing himself and his organization, at the expense of poor Sinner who's evidently innocent and he knows that. Politics should be kept out from this.
@@daniele8716 What I took from Djoker was that the PTPA was not to judge but make sure every player regardless of status would have a proper defence via the union. I agree Sinner seems innocent but be did get caught twice...
It's clear that no one says I believe in him period. It's because they are not sure. In my case, I feel there are a lot of things that are very difficult of believing, one of the two guys in charge of Jannik physical preparation is an expert in pharmaceuticals, had already 15 years of experience in this field and also had a personal experience in a basketball team in Italy where they had a problem with the same substance "Clostebol"..... So the story of the cream and massage is not believable not from the possibility that the substance enter to the bloodstream this way, but from the point of view that these guys weren't aware of the composition of the cream.... So known in Italy and with a warning in the envelope... To conclude, two options : the entire team knew and worked with this substance and they played with the risk of being caught, because a little overdose and the controls detect the substance and they used it probably during a long time.. The other option is that Jannik didn't know what these guys are using to enhance his performance. It would be good to know if the entire team received a variable depending of the results of Jannik, if this assumption was true, we would have the reason why they used the substance without Jannik knowing...... The only thing clear here is that the procedures of Atp are everything but clear and transparents.
So, you built all this giant house of cards based on the premise that an error from the physio is not believable while a conscious decision to use a doping substance that they perfectly know is detectable in a quantity that provides zero performance enhancement is a much more believable option. In other words, for as hard as you try, you cannot think of a more logical explanation that Jannik (or his team, without his knowledge) decided to take take the 100% certain risk of destroying his career in exchange for absolutely no reward. Your hypothesis says that the risk of detection comes from an overdose. The highest amount detected in those two tests was 86 trillionths of a gram per milliliter, a quantity that generates a whopping 0% performance enhancement. And this was an "overdose". I really want to meet the genius who wrote such a devastating doping program. If he received any compensation, fixed or variable, for this then as next step he should seriously consider selling igloos to the nomadic populations of the Sahara desert.
The pharma guy was aware that the spray had a banned substance. Him having it and giving it to the physio it was certainly negligent. The most likely scenario is that he picked up some crap from the pharmacy and thought that as long as he was careful with it it wouldn't be an issue, and then wasn't careful enough. Ie incompetence. Your absurd conspiracy theories are just that - absurd.
First I heard it was a billionth, now you saw 84 trillionth, next it will be 256 quadrillionth etc. The numbers are irrelevant, why, because theyvdon't determine the time of doping which would be the highest concentrating which eventually subdues. Clostebol is used for building muscle mass which increases performance. It's logical that a tennis player or any athelete would use that in spans between tournaments determining that there wouldn't be any left in the bloodstream at the time of the tournament incase they get tested and if it was, well the result would be in the soncalled trillionths you mention. Lets face the facts, Sinners appearance definitely isn't one of Arnold Swartsineiger in his hey day, so he needs the muscle to perform at the highest level.
Djokovic is a most articulate and intelligent dude, not only the 'street punk' advertised by Boris Becker. Of course he is also that, coming from war-torn Balkans with the 'Serbian burden', even 'stigma' burning his soul and all that shit plus his fierce temperament and super-human focus, perfectionism and will to win and be the best and all the other "annoying stuff" --- yeah, what a mixed bag of qualities, admirable and some maybe less so. As conflicted persona, that is, public profile as they come: a Balkan gunpowder barrel and a yogi in a perfect piece. But articulate he is and quite apt with words also.
@@lesrinewhitby4653sono assolutamente d'accordo con lei. Djokovich è sempre nitido nel suo pensiero. Alcaraz, come tutti gli ispanici, fatica a formulare un pensiero razionale pur essendo un grande giocatore.
you don't know why? he's the most senior, most experienced, most, probably, respected in this field now with his peer all or almost all retired. Of course he can have that observation and audacity to say what he said. The other players are much younger! They still have a heck of a career out there and didn't or shouldn't say too much or utter too strong opinionated words.
Djokovic says more thoughtful things in one answer in one presser than Nadal and Federer did during their whole careers combined. They never stood up for anybody or said anything of value. Robots without a single original thought.
I don't understand how he is not suspended. He was tested positive twice. Than he skips two tournaments not to get tested. His statement: "people that know me know that I will never do anything illegal" and "now I know who are my friends" wtf GILTY. It is his fault, even if the member of his team exposed him to the drug which I doubt. Players are talking about him for a while that he is dope and cheat. His team knows that. Why they did not make sure that no one is using illegal drugs/spreys around him.
Marco Bortolotti does not get suspended for testing positive to the same substance and nobody cares. The number 1 does not get suspended for the same reasons and a lot of people complain. I guess it's a double standard situation. Tennis players should play tennis not doing politics or pretend to be navigated Jurists.
Clearly its because jannik is number one so people very concern about.. but as jannik said he has done anything wrong and we here to support him. i just believe this problem gona make jannik stronger
Im italian and im a Sinner Fun, I have great respect for Fritz, he is a great tennis player and always polite. Doping cases are not all the same, that's why there is a court that judges tennis players, there have been some cases judged as not guilty of doping even before Sinner's doping came out and others judged guilty, it would be enough to get informed
I really don't want to doubt sinner. But to be honest, it is indeed true that his recent performance has suddenly improved by leaps and bounds... This is also something that makes me feel very suspicious... But I think Sinner failed the drug test. And twice... This really deserves a ban. After all, it was his team that had the problem. But it was his team after all. So that was also his negligence. I think we still have to follow the rules. If we should be banned, we should be banned... After all, he failed two drug tests... not just once... If you fail two consecutive drug tests, you can continue to compete... This is very unfair to other players. And don't forget... Sinner's current coach is Agassi's former coach.....Darren Cahill. If you all still remember, Agassiz published an autobiography after his retirement. He mentioned in his autobiography that he actually took an undetectable drug in the middle and later stages of his career. It made him full of physical strength and explosive power in the game. Then Agassi's coach at that time is now Sinner's coach...Darren Cahill... so... And after Sinner hired Agassiz's former coach... It is a fact that performance has improved by leaps and bounds in a short period of time. He also became the World NO.1 now.. So I really think Sinner shouldn't let him play... Rules are rules..ok
Well said. He was very fishy and I kept asking how come he stands out from the rest as his game is just ground stroke game. People Saif he hit so hard and so clean, yes, but who is not in top 20? now I know, he hits harder with no fatigue, like playing a robot. Sorry for those who didn't cheat! After Novak retires, I will stop watching tennis as it is a very corrupt game.
sure, by 10 elevated -10 g concentration of the M1 metabolite of Clostebol. Read this before answering www.itia.tennis/media/yzgd3xoz/240819-itia-v-sinner.pdf
What a weird response-when only one player here tested positive. What happened 45 years ago is somewhat irrelevant. If everyone is doping, I guess Sinner was just real unlucky for getting caught. Meanwhile in 20 years, Djoko has never been caught in over 300+ drug tests…
@@Mark-ut5oq I think maybe you're not aware of the prevalence of doping in sport generally and tennis specifically. At least five Italian tennis players have been rung up by this Clostebol thing in recent years, but it's not just them. Agassi admitted to being on crystal meth when he was playing in the late 90s. Sharapova on meldonium in 2016. I mean... it's a long damn list.
This was my question (not statement though) too. How is possible to keep playing that much and that productive for months as Janik did during the first half of the year? There should be something taken to keep body performing consistently that well. I genuinely like Sinner and believe he's a gifted and young athlete
Did we really expect they would be on his side? Of course they are coming out with neutral statements and they shouldn’t even be asked about it. They clearly haven’t read the sentence and it’s not their job to do anything about it.
Yeah, neutrality is always the safest action because no one really knows besides Sinner and his team. Did he do it intentionally? Maybe, maybe not. Plus why would they really care anyways, the tennis season keeps going and they definitely have better things to do than read Sinner’s full case. It’s a slam and they should be training not forming judgement on a closed case.
@@dome_thelazyegg19 considering he had 86pg/mL of clostebol in his body, aka 0.000000000086g/mL, waaaaaay too little to perceive any effects, it was most likely a contamination, hence the tribunal accepting his version
I agree, provided that the case is the same and the conditions are the same and the consequences are the same... Nole and Fritz, two lucky guys that have never been caught, and Nole hiding and running away and providing fake documents during COVID is no saint either... all ready to throw stones at Jannik, but I'd really wish to know who is without sin
well he just hasnt been caught yet....you know all those bathroom breaks and then totally brand new on the court....Besides if he was found and exposed they would cover it....
@@nikosgr9290 Νικόλ μου, δεν εκπλήσσομαι που είσαι Έλληνας. Μόνο Έλληνας θα έκανε τέτοιο κατάπτυστο σχόλιο. Πρέπει να σε έτσουξε ΠΟΛΥ μπολιασμένο μου προβατάκι εσένα ο Νόλε.... ΜΠΕΕΕΕΕΕΕΕΕ!!!!!!!!!!!
The rules are standardized and there are no exemptions. Everything in this case was by the book. The only argument you can make is maybe you think they were too harsh on others in the past. In which case they can fix that going forward. But it's clear as day that Sinner is innocent in this case.
Everyone knows that this is cover up. Players are afraid to say it publicly. Taylor Fritz was closest to saying it as it is. One day in the future truth will come out.
But who the player is has a weight or impact on the handling. It's BS for them to say that the authority didn't know who it was, and it was only a number representing each sample/case. Don't treat us like we were two years old.
"It's not up to a player or journalist to determine if someone is innocent or guilty" Tell that to Novak who had "journalists" up his butt crack 24/7 portraying him as a bad guy constantly Those journalists sure knew who was guilty or innocent in Tennis lol We all know who out of the big 3 aye
This case is totally different from the others. The presence of clostebol was absolutelly irrilevant and totally not associated to a tentative of enhancing performances. It is a case of contamination and the investigation was focused on understanding if there was a player misconduct or superficiality. But it is clear and beyond any doubt that an unvoluntary mistake of his phsiyo was the cause.
Only one curious fact connects Halep and Sinner and their innocence: their coach James Cahill. Physio was in Sinner’s case massaging and clostebol went into organism of Jannik through the wound in his finger? C’mon. It’s good that I am from Finland and I believe in Santa Claus.
@@jukkao.parviainen8669 Jean-François Naud, director of the WADA laboratories in Montreal; Xavier de la Torre, scientific director of the WADA laboratories in Rome; David Cowan, professor emeritus at King's College London and head of the WADA laboratories in London (the three experts of the medical commission called to confer with the independent tribunal that judged the case) said in their technical report that the contamination is not only possible, but in this case it is the only plausible explanation. Notice: they didn't even know the name of the player. The analyse was anonimous, so that their opinion could not be influenced. Can we say three WADA experts and University Professors believe in Santa Claus?
Nadal and Roger would have kissed the establishment boots.. I love that Novak always says what he thinks and that is the reason the establishment hates him and have always made his the “bad guy” 😂 🤡
Bro how does federer and nadal factor into this. Yall novak glazers are insane. Good on novak for speaking some sense to this situation but why tf do you have to bring the other 2 up??
did you smoke? novak anti-establishment? "and the establishment hates him" you don't know what are talking about he is part of the establishment .... and why do you have to bring Nadal and Federer into the mix?
@@Notlikeus1959 Another one! Here below there are a bunch of comments of people that try to analyze the situation. Some I agree with others I don’t. But I take my hat off to how people try to express their opinions considering different point of views. Then you find the people who simply … have nothing to say and they say it anyway!
Despite the name ('sinner'...), that might not help in front of a jury, I think the way the investigation team treated him was fair. Other players were treated unfairly? Well, that's not a good reason for advocating an unjust treatment for the nice Italian guy as well. Probably some of these interviews will have a bitter taste for Sinner who yesterday wisely stated that the current situation will make him understand who, among his colleagues, really is his friend.
Marco Bortolotti n.350 Atp è stato assolto allo stesso modo, Nole non è informato nessun trattamento di favore per il n. 1 trattato allo stesso modo deln.350
All players should be treated equally (to Sinner) is well-versed. But this is only valid that if the said "all players" have one billionth of a gram in their cardiovascular system of the given substance. All respect due, Djokovic was using the moment to do some marketing of his organisation. Numbers are important, and he is well aware of that.
Federer is not pictured here, but he was asked on American TV morning news and Fed said Sinner is "EXTREMELY Lucky not to receive a ban" normally the governing body will ban First and ask questions later Federer said he was very surprised why a ban is not in place
I just don't know why somebody on his "team," including Sinner, doesn't just take a lie detector test! I know they are not 100% however, they are pretty good and I would be all over it to clear my name.
Novak is perfect in his assessment of the circumstances of the case and its relationship to the treatment of all the players. His call for standardisation and equality in terms of legal formal and informal, procedures and practices applying to all players regardless of ranking or profile. Transparency, integrity and accountability are sadly lacking in this case. I believe it is a systemic issue rather than the fault of the player concerned with this particular case.
@@oleandreasen one of the main reasons he was cleared was because the amount they found in his body wouldn’t be enough to enhance his performance but I guess that reading is not for everyone
@@oleandreasen No, the quantity was so minimal and ridiculously low that it couldn't affect Sinner performances in any way, it was just an accidental contamination
0,000000001% was the value found on sinner because oh his team mess up with finger cut. This is important not to forget; also Sinner was able to trace the contamination immediately, and according the governing body there were no reason to stop it. That’s it, move on.
@@BikiG1 No shit, if you do the same test twice you'll most likely get the same result twice. They're not contesting that he had it in his system, they're contesting whether it was his fault. And the amount is absolutely relevant. And he should only be suspended if found guilty, which he wasn't.
let's hope sinner keeps his spirits high, because that's good for the sport. The rivalry Sinner-Alcaraz is probably the one that will mark the following ten years. Let's also hope the governing authorities listen to Djokovic, because he is completely right about this situation.
Love Djokovic more and more when he speaks like this for the players.
I agree, to be fair, I couldn't warm to him for years, but have grown to really like him. Always appreciated his tennis though.
He surely knows what he is talking about.. he should give Sinner his trusted dealer
Djokovic is very well-spoken and has intelligent reasoning and expressive communication despite English not being his first language.
@@lizwilson51 in this case I disagree on Djokovic statement. Sinner is totally innocent and Djokovic pointed out only on the equality of treatment which is fair but not linked to the question he received from the journalist.
@@nathanrsm73
So are Tara Moore, and Simona Halep...And Yet, They were dragged through the mud, and through a long suspension and suffered long delays in the Law Courts... to clear their name!
You are being Disrespectful towards the innocent players, who Suffered Greatly and never had the PREFERENTIAL Treatment - like SINNER had!
@@stevelily1763 Jarry also- had an 11 month suspension all because his vitamins were cross-contaminated when produced in a Brazilian factory.
His english is more attractive than his tennis.
The guy is incredible. Always an over achiever. He can speak 11 languages. In just English I’ve always been amazed how well
Spoken he is. Even slang and sense of humor etc. He really knows the language well.
As usual, only Djokovic didn't give a generic PR answer
Fritz also ..
Fritz couldn’t make a definitive answer. Get to the point.
DJOKOVIC l'ipobarico?
@@rossananuboloni9057Iperbarico e non ipobarico. È diverso ed è legale. Non sai neppure di quello che parli.😉
Fritz and Djokovic pretty much said the same thing.
Djokovic after the end his professional career should become President of ATP .
federer also - and nadal. They are so fed up by tennis after 20 years that they never want to walk onto a court again.
They wouldn’t have him unless he gets the vaccine 😂
I think Murray would be better at that. He's more level-headed and fair and frank than any of the Top 3. He's also respected and in the past had been an advocate for various worthy causes.
@@sportslover2356 that’s no true. Federer is 40 years old and Nadal is not quitting yet.
@@Rising.consciousness 🤣
The fact that every player parses their words so carefully tells that nobody wants to say anything controversial right before the last Major of the year. There doesn't seem to by a unifying feeling behind Sinner, which is probably more the fault of how the situation was handled than his actual innocence or guilt. Tennis is not doing itself any favors at the moment with its wildly inconsistent application of its own rules...we saw it again in Winston-Salem with Michelson not getting defaulted after striking a fan with an angry ball.
I believe that in Jannik's case, the difference with others similar cases consist in the fact that his team was immediately able to give a satisfactory and proofed explanation. What has not been said is that after the first test the commitee answered back, if your justification is true in the second test we should expect this amount of substance left in your body. The number matched and that's the reason why they didn't further punished him, also the quantity, apparently, wouldn't improve the performance.
Well said
Cheater. He will be banned from the sport. This is not going away. Real anti-doping agencies are getting involved. The media and the hired shills on social media will gaslight you until the end. Remember Lance Armstrong.
@@mcash82so the positive result matters more or the so-called small amount means more? what's the standard?
@@miloshevmilos4392 everything is important in order to determine the innocence or the guilt, and for sure the quantity counts. If I understood well, when a person in this situation is able to give an explanation and this explanation is consistent and verifiable, then that dictates the outcome, and I believe that the standard at the moment is based on this.
Good to see fair answers from the best.
You call them correct? I call them hypocrites. They know very well that the percentage in the blood was 0.000001 milligrams, a quantity declared inconsistent and checked with the quantity that can be assumed for a very small error of the physio, TRANSMITTED BY THE CARE OF HIS FINGER AND HANDLING SINNER WITHOUT GLOVES. TO THESE ENVIOUS PEOPLE I SAY THAT YOU MUST BEAT SINNER ON THE FIELD NOT TALKING LIKE BROKEN RECORDS, WITHOUT HAVING THE BALLS TO OPENLY ACCUSE HIM. SHAME.
Risposte a metà, ci sta, perché sono degli avversari del ns Jannik. Chi afferma che per Jannik è stato fatto un percorso speciale o che doveva essere fermato immediatamente dopo le 2 analisi con Clostebol o che dovevano Sinner e ITIA far sapere subito di cosa era accaduto, dimenticano e aggiungo anche delibiramente: Marco Bortolotti ha avuto lo stesso trattamento di Jannik Sinner, Jannik Sinner ha immediatamente capito da dove venivano i milardesimi di Clostebol che gli esperti considerano che non ha avuto NESSUN effetto doping, che la riservatezza fino a delibera sono a tutela di chi viene accusato di Doping. Invece la questione vera è che si è fatto un polverone per una leggerezza aggiungo grave che non ha comportato nessu effetto dopante, anzi, adesso Sinner viene crocifisso e portato come cattivo esempio. Sempre di più FORZA JANNIK!!! 💪🎾🇮🇹👏
@@MondoRockGPok potato
@@MondoRockGP Dobbiamo capire che Nole è anche un politico, la sua PTPA non dico che è in guerra ma sicuramente non è molto amica dell'ATP, quindi ogni occasione è buona per tirare acqua al suo mulino
@MondoRockGP bro shutup. You've pasted the same comment everywhere. No one's gives a shit for Ur stupid explanation.
Carrot head tested positive. Simple
Do I belive Sinner doped on purpose?
-No
Do I belive every case need to be treated the same?
-Yes
How can you treat in the same way someone who provides every single proof of their innocence with someone who provides none, how does your justice work? xD
@@biomax1864 how his head works: the popularity opinion is to criticise , he will criticise, if the popular opinion is to defend the player he will defend the player. These people just follow the current
Totally agree!!!
It's multi-million dollars business, risk reward I think he knew what he is doing and play on card they will not catch me.
Dopping doesn't have anything to do with intentions. Bcz there is no way to find out intentions. He failed drug test, thus he doped.
Novak spoke like a seasoned commercial solicitor.. he is just super smart
@@jeffhusman He's smart but uneducated, like most tennis players tbf
To achieve those summits, even in sport, and for so long he has to be very intelligent.
@@mikiafuexactiy
the guy has prob read more than any harvard grad
ENOUGH WITH THE USELESS CHATTER AND FALSE ATTEMPTS TO MAKE PEOPLE BELIEVE IN A FALSE REALITY ABOUT SINNER. THIS IS THE VERDICT OF ITIA, READ IT. www.itia.tennis/media/yzgd3xoz/240819-itia-v-sinner.pdf
Great Cut up ! Well blended and done.
Djokovic has personality, in sports thats hide to find.. Bravo, Djokovic.
So true
What happens here, is that djokovic is always in steorids but hides it but defending other who also are in em. But im trying do shine the thruth about this sithyy players myself by winning 30 grand slams and showing everyone that i can be better with the steroids thta tey use
@@a.m.m5020 where is your proof? Lol 😄
@@IrenaDeacon your dad is a proof, we cant/couldnt perform as him at 38 yo right, y coul but without steroids
@a.m.m5020 my dad is dead, since my age of 2 so resorting to insulting my family is a low move. Federer was performing on extremely high level even older than djokovic? Does it mean he was on steroids too?
The still face expressions of all players at the end where Sinner starts to speak are golden, hahaha
After this incident, whenever I see singer's face I would immediately think he is such a good cheat, fooled everyone but deep down he is a druggie
😂😂😂
Says everything 😅
@@b.hornetiii.6771
I remember the face expression of many players when Djokovic did not want to get vaccinated.
He said that it was a personal choice. Never seen a personal choice that makes people at risk of becoming sick themselves. As unvaccinated people may spread the virus. Particularly considering that the people at risk were seniors and people with underlying conditions.
Cheater. He will be banned from the sport. This is not going away. Real anti-doping agencies are getting involved. The media and the hired shills on social media will gaslight you until the end. Remember Lance Armstrong.
very well spoken by Djokovic. he seems like a good representative for the sport.
You know what's annoying about Djokavic fans. I wonder if he had been 80th in the world for 20 years and never won any tournaments you'd still praise him. Bandwaganing at its best.
@@astrahcat1212 Serbia have many players just like you described it, whole Nation knows them and respect them... some of them beat you many timers in Davis Cup.
@@astrahcat1212 So, in your country you give the same treatment to an athlete who is the best of all times and some random player? Do you people even listen to yourselves?
@@astrahcat1212same goes for the haters. At least the fans are rational
@@stevans6942Though Serbia has only won the Davis Cup once 😅
I just love Nole!!❤
ENOUGH WITH THE USELESS CHATTER AND FALSE ATTEMPTS TO MAKE PEOPLE BELIEVE IN A FALSE REALITY ABOUT SINNER. THIS IS THE VERDICT OF ITIA, READ IT. www.itia.tennis/media/yzgd3xoz/240819-itia-v-sinner.pdf
As an outsider's point of view, yes Yannik is innocent. But having that "thing" in his system, surely aided his strength in playing which makes it not fair with other players.
Nole is such an intelligent person..
He surely knows what he is talking about.. he should give Sinner his trusted dealer
@@miguelm269
NADAL has a trusted dealer, Novak and Roger DON'T!!!
@@stevelily1763 😂😂 keep trying. Who gave jokecovid the “secret” magic potion in the middle of a game? Who didnt wanted to get tested before davis cup game? Who has a weird chip on his chest and never spoke about it? Who is still fit at 37 only a couple weeks after surgery?? Must be superman! 😂😂
Novak answer was amazing. He is such a smart and well-spoken person. I agree completely with him .
Djokovic talked on a different level than the other speakers..
@@bigchainring1977😂😂😂 suck some more joker 🥎
ジョコビッチは論理的に考えられる人だなあ
Wrong
The integrity of GOATkovic is flawless. He almost always sides on the right side, irrespective of if the establishment is sitting on the other side.
He has a brave heart for sure and def not the lapdog like the other 2 greats.
He didn't say much, just things about that PTP that no player cares about. Then, he said they should have clear protocols and standards for all the players, which is true.
@@juanquintana6070 Exactly that!!
Well the otherr two didnt have to protect their own profits from PTP
@@guruk
Clearly not from a subjective fan point of view!
@@nikosgr9290 It's PTPA and it's not a profitable as ATP is, do you got that? No?
The most lucid and rational response was from Novak. Jannik, imo, was let down by two careless members of his team. The nub is, as Novak said, that the ability to have the means (money) to get the best representation counts. In the news now is the Mike Lynch case. He drowned in his yacht while celebrating the positive outcome of his 10 year battle in the US courts. This battle cost him $30m. He stated, before he died, that, had he not had these funds, he would not have had justice. He also said that this system of justice is unequal, that justice should not depend on money. But, unfortunately, it does, especially in the US, in the rule of law in general.
US is nothing compared to other countries’ corruption. At least you have a lot of millionaires
OJ walked away
How do you know he was let down by his team? Sharapova threw her team under the bus too
He surely knows what he is talking about.. he should give Sinner his trusted dealer
nobody expressed a really clear opinion.Just seems to be a lot of competitiveness in the Atp and no one wants to say good or bad.
They know very well that the percentage in the blood was 0.000001 milligrams, a quantity declared inconsistent and checked with the quantity that can be assumed for a very small error of the physio, TRANSMITTED BY THE CARE OF HIS FINGER AND HANDLING SINNER WITHOUT GLOVES. TO THESE ENVIOUS PEOPLE I SAY THAT YOU MUST BEAT SINNER ON THE FIELD NOT TALKING LIKE BROKEN RECORDS, WITHOUT HAVING THE BALLS TO OPENLY ACCUSE HIM. SHAME.
@@MondoRockGPIt's hard to beat a doper on the field
@@MondoRockGPthe quantity you're talking about is only the trace they found. It's not the original amount. By the way, are you a bot or what? You leave the same comment over and over again.
All Sinner's previous tests were negative. According to Roddick, if Sinner was using that actual substance in those quantities deliberately, he must be the worst doper ever!!!
@@MondoRockGP Well it's 0,000001 at the time they take him to the test. God knows how much it was 5-6 days before they tested him.
We all listen what GOAT has to say.😊
Actually I've never heard him come across so wishy washy before now. 😕
I haven't heard Federer speak yet.
The GOAT has spoken
Federer didn't speak
He just circled the answer like a true politician
@@Dan-id9qs🇷🇸🐐
@@valr852 there's no shame in listening one more time or twice. Until you understand....
@@Dan-id9qs You are right there 🤷 he is not on the video not that hard to figure out
There is a (33-page) judgment formulated by 3 of the world's top experts regarding doping (2 among them didn't even know the player's name, it was anonymous) but I'm sure that not one of the people who are commenting have read it (and will never read it).
It makes comparisons with other players (usually the Halep case) not saying the key differences: Sinner and his lawyers were able to prove immediately how the fact had happened and (another thing that people in bad faith don't say), the quantity traced was completely different, last but not least, in one case it was a direct (unintentional) contamination, in Sinner's case instead it was INDIRECT and unintentional.
That's why he was found NOT GUILTY (NO FAULT and NO NEGLIGENCE).
This is what the judgment says, the point is that you about the judgment DON'T GIVE A FUCK, you want the "blood", you want the guilty regardless of what the judges decided, because again, you don't care about his innocence or guilt; what you want is the conviction.
I forgot: the judgment is online, it can be read by anyone (I know, who care, better to wrote some bullshit comment).
But da goat. Muh, muh goat sayz sinner should be banned. Duh goat. Muh goat. Don't allow sinner to be goat, ban sinner before sinner is better than muh goat. Goat. Da goat. Goat... ... ... ( More meaningless nonsense about a goat)
Viktor Troicki was suspended for 18 months at the peak of his career, despite testing negative. This was solely due to a misunderstanding with the medical staff. All of his appeals were rejected.
Novak really knows how to lay the cards clearly on the table without beating around the bush! A call for change as obviously power and money play a huge part in swinging the pendulum in the player's favour.
He repeated a dozen times themes that wanted to imply that Jannik was a drug addict and then ran away. A hypocrite who went around and around without having the balls to accuse. A very small coward.
@@MondoRockGP 😂😂 where do you people come up with this shit? He said nothing of the sort
this is a sentence, read if you are made elementary school www.itia.tennis/media/yzgd3xoz/240819-itia-v-sinner.pdf
@@zanido9073 That is your problem
Novak knows how to cheat
Big Nole!! Great man,great player, the Best. Congrats
Djokovics answer was so satisfying.
In fact he said nothing.
@@wdog22Talking a lot but saying nothing is a form of art these days. I don’t have anything against djokovic. He’s playing the game.
@@John-cg1sx He is talking allways the same nothing, he wants to be the good guy but pretends sometimes the bad one.
Shows how well Novak speaks… he took half the video
Proper word salad
trust me bro, everyone on balkan can speak whole day :D
Taylor had a similar response as well
😂
He is an idiot
What I'm sure of is, if they found this substance in Novak, it would be the end for him. They would bury him. Novak is on point in this case, well spoken man.
Agreed.
👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
They got paid off Multiple times!
You are wrong Djokovic is the biggest player in tennis, but because of Federer’s advanced age and injuries, as well as Nadal’s injuries, it was necessary to have a famous player. Therefore, due to the support of sponsorship, advertising and betting companies, Djokovic was protected, but after his retirement, documents will be published that condemn him and expose his use of doping.
@@mosab.2815 hahahahahha, you really believe this??? I haven't heard more nonsense in my life than this
Jean-François Naud, director of the WADA laboratories in Montreal; Xavier de la Torre, scientific director of the WADA laboratories in Rome; David Cowan, professor emeritus at King's College London and head of the WADA laboratories in London (the three experts of the medical commission called to confer with the independent tribunal that judged the case) said in their technical report that the accidental contamination is not only possible, but in this case it is the most plausible explanation. Notice: they didn't even know the name of the player. The analyse was anonimous, so that their opinion could not be influenced.
The FBI also determined that Shohei Ohtani had “zero knowledge” about his personal translator and best friend taking millions from him.
It, certainly, is possible, but, I guess, not in any of the other cases! Yeah, right!
very, very good point
Oh, really? They didn't know? What made you so sure of that? They told you? right.
Sure, I will believe that...a private enterprise operates like that 😂 how come others didn't have the same treatment???
Thats how GOAT talks & represent the sport in the world! He is the vouce of tennis!
But why does everyone think that the rules were not the same for everyone? Sinner clarified this in a press conference. He said that he was not suspended because he was able to IMMEDIATELY demonstrate both when and how he was infected by the substance. His explanation was considered valid, so there was no need to proceed with the preventive suspension. Players who receive an immediate suspension is because they do not know how they were infected and must investigate what happened.
This is the very reason that it's fishy in my mind... He immediately knew what was the problem... unless you do it on purpose you cannot immediately know or have a reason. It's like his team was ready in case he got caught. A well oiled machine.
He was suspended for a day or two then swiftly the suspension was lifted and they allowed him to continue to play
@@Arlhem Does it seem strange to you?? How can a quantity of less than a billionth of a gram make you suspicious? It is an infinitesimal quantity, completely insufficient to cause even the slightest physical benefit. Fortunately for him it was easy to immediately trace the problem because a member of his team, the one in charge of massaging Sinner, was treating a wound on his hand, so suspicions immediately fell on that ointment. In fact they saw immediately that the ointment contained the incriminated substance, but the player could not have known it. I think it was wrong to release the news. Anti-doping organizations should only make a news public when a quantity considered sufficient to increase physical performance is detected in the blood. Here we are talking about less than a billionth of a gram. Letting the news out damaged Sinner's image for no reason.
@@danielexcf789 you realize that an infinitesimal quantity as you call it can show up in the system because it has been 3 to 6 weeks since the last doping took place? you cannot use this as a proof of innocence; try again. the entire story with the cut and the spray is a complete joke. he is world number one and wants us to believe he is surrounded by a physio and a conditioning coach who are amateurs? the exact opposite is likely the case!!!!
lol so he knew immediately what caused him to fail why didn’t he just have his trainer not use the stuff in the first place? Hahaha ok buddy
I don’t know the exact details of the cases of Halep, Sharapova, Cañas, Gasquet, Puerta, Brooksby, Ymer, Jarry, etc. I do know that they all got suspended or docked and Sinner barely got docked. I also know that Sinner is ranked number one and the others were not when this event happened for them. I also know that he had a very good explanation for his case. Henceforth, it’s not black and white. It’t something that needs clear protocol and all players need access to the same support systems to fight their cases.
Wouldn't have guessed that the most gutsy of that crowd would be Taylor Fritz.
Really? I thought he a ball in each court lol
Yes!
Alcaraz and tiafoe with the most guilty PR statements there
I think Djokovic is very gutsy by tackling the governing body and continuing to promote his PTPA which is a thorn in the ATP's eye. Fuming against Sinner or his allegedly jealous opponents is the easier thing to do.
Fritz basically said the same thing but less well spoken than Djokovic, but Novak has the advantage of a native speaker. Oh wait.
@@knotwilg3596 that last part of your statement made me laugh so hard. Well done
I take my hat for Novak,his opinion is crystal clear.
crystal clear
“ … YOU CANT HANDLE THE TRUTH !!! “
you don't know why? he's the most senior, most experienced, most, probably, respected in this field now with his peer all or almost all retired. Of course he can have that observation and audacity to say. The other players are much younger! They still have a heck of a career out there and didn't or shouldn't say too much or utter too strong opinionated words.
@@Piedpied951It's not about experience or age because Đoković was always speaking facts! Take a look at other older athletes and you will notice that they can't talk like Novak and he is the smartest among all tennis players. When Đoković was very young he was saying Kosovo is Serbia! While that time the western countries were trying to separate that part of Serbia and they are still trying! You don't know much about Đoković but even less about Serbia and Serbian brave people!
@@Piedpied951 exactly 💯
@@roki1719 he was always speaking facts and only built up more and more😊 worldwide hero from beautiful serbia 🇷🇸 💜 ❤️
Great edit
Sinner and the Failed Drug Test: 1) the substance is an off-the-counter spray readily available in the Italian market. His team should was careless not to have pre-checked the substance. 2) the quantity ingested was so negligible (a billionth gram) that it could not have enhanced performance. 3) Sinner was able to point to this product immediately, and investigators were able to ascertain the source; and further testing clarified that if the residue quantity matched, then that is ok. So, it was actually one failed test, not two. 4) It is doubtful whether the status or financial means of the player had anything to do with the outcome; because a 350th ranked player was also exonerated on the same product.
great comment, thanks
Officially , 2 failed drugs tests. The reason for the failure ,that has never been tested in a court of law, was accepted. The drug tested should be "zero". It should never , ever be in your test. Any amount more than "zero" is a failure. Drug cheats are extremely good at cheating the system. Zero tolerance is the only way forward. Cycling has never recovered from the drugs scandals and tennis is clearly trying to avoid that scandal but it will fall and all the players that spoke in this video clearly have something to hide. They don't talk for a reason ..what could that reason be ... Fear of ATP fines? Or do you think they have done something aswell that they would prefer to keep quiet.
These are the most important facts of the case and I believe the reason why he was able to move on & play. Thanks for sharing!
Sinner's story is really suspect. They found the perfect story immediately after he was caught with the substance. In their story the substance comes from a third person. This is the scenario every lawyer would dream of.
What's the substance
To all the ignorant people that are commenting on this unfortunate episode (that’s clear) .
Point 1: Did He takes vantage with 000000000.1 billion grams to improve performance???? NO.
Point 2: why they didn’t stopped him from playing?
Just because the situation was straight away clarified, and they found out where the doping was coming from.
Point 3: STOP speculating on rubbish. He is the really number 1 and He is showing to everyone.
I agree, if you are rich and white who care about the rules.
If they knew (immediately) where it came from then they knew it was a banned substance! = 0% (zero) tolerance!
Excuses because they got caught! Why didn't Sinner sack his staff immediately, why wait till public backlash?
They found the substance when it was already waning in his body, imagine if they tested him a month before? The billionth of a gram is actually a significant amount as these steroids are measured in nanograms. They don't stay in the body for long, but are quite effective.
Your argument is pointless because no one believes it. Stop insulting everyone's intelligence dude!
@@horaceball5418 Exactly! 👍
Well said
It is completely irrelevant now who is saying what! Rules are rules and they must be equal for everyone and strictly followed! If it is not so, then they are not rules, and without them there is no system. Without a system, there is no sport and everything is a farce and a joke. Tennis is one of the sports that is completely tainted by politics and hypocrisy. Novak Djokovic has completely exposed all that and that's actually why he is the GOAT in every sense!
Sbagli. I casi sono diversi e non tutti uguali . Sinner non ha assunto nulla per via orale,come altri Sinner ha dimostrato al 100% di essere innocente a differenza di altri .Giusto quindi farlo giocare.
why? Because he's the most senior, most experienced, most, probably, respected in this field now with his peer all or almost all retired. Of course he can have that observation and audacity to say what he said. The other players are much younger! They still have a heck of a career out there and didn't or shouldn't say too much or utter too strong opinionated words. After 20 + years and 24 slams, you should have gained some right to represent all other (younger) players. Only what, maybe two other players older than him? ( Within top 150)
@@Piedpied951well the problem is the young ones should be rebellious not the other way around.
Goat was clear..everybody need the same tretmant..
I can't recall ROGER speaking, he is the real GOAT
@@annetteelliott1494I didn't hear or see him talking too 😊 our beautiful GOAT RF❤
@@annetteelliott1494You Dreams Bro?
did Roger Federer, the GOAT, really comment on this issue? I did not realize that
anche nei sorteggi dei tabelloni però
Goldovic always Cristal clear and a Gem... we want this immortal among mortals
you know why? he's the most senior, most experienced, most, probably, respected in this field now with his peer all or almost all retired. Of course he can have that observation and audacity to say what he said. The other players are much younger! They still have a heck of a career out there and didn't or shouldn't say too much or utter too strong opinionated words.
@@Piedpied951 hmm... Novak never hesitated to say straight be it he was young or now senior
@@gokulvrindavan1858 Give an example of 21 or 25 years old Novak saying something to this magnitude and depth.
@@Piedpied951ALWAYS Spoke Truth, from very young!
That's Serbian traditional upbringing, his mother was speaking about that in an interview.
@@Piedpied951When he was very young he was saying Kosovo is Serbia! While that time the western countries were trying to separate that part of Serbia and they are still trying! You don't know much about Đoković but even less about Serbia and Serbian brave people!
Nole is a geniıus. Why nobody addresses his distinguished ability in foreign languages ?
The quality of his English here is outstanding.
And he speaks at least five more languages too
I love Sinner
I like Alcaraz trying his best to express his opinion in English ❤
😂
@@SheepMiss he is a pain anytime he is interviewed
@@nathanrsm73 Claro, porque el mundo anglosajón se ha adueñado del discurso a nivel mundial...... Si alguien está interesado en la opinión de Carlos, mejor que aprenda español y punto.
I like him at all times, he seems to be a nice gentle, good family person, like Nadal.
Carlos needs to work on his English as a great player he will need it in numerous interviews he will have to do moving forward
When the GOAT talks, everyone should Listen! He was absolutely spot on with his response. Thank Joker!
Get a room😂
Every time tennis has one goat federer's king
Djokovic king
@@mosab.2815cry fedal fans
Don't see Federer here.
I agree that the rules should be the same for everybody, going forward. So, let's move forward. We can't change the past for other players, so blaming Jannik for passionately defending himself against a disqualification from the sport which has been his whole life and villifying him will not help anyone. Jannik's case will probably help players in the future in similar cases.
I fully agree!
When Novak was banned entering Australia, it wasnt based on medical test, they havent took rational decision based on some real evidence, but political and bureaucracy act.Healty guy, one of the best world athletes was considered high risk, who would be able to play 5 hours tennis match isnt healty.Here you have a test, medical, hemical, material proof the Sinner's body has been contaminated.Do you really believe his team on this level professional sport didnt know what they were doing. This cream had on the packaging a clear note "doping".So they dont know to read, not knowing what they were doing, and they are part of team of the world No1 tennis player.
When you visit another country and you don't follow their rules then they have every right to ban you. Don't want to follow rules don't go to said country.
@@WonderWhatHappenedWhat the hell he was doing at their border?They said at first he has all the papers needed for exemption and he may board to a plane.Thats why he was at front door, but aussie government needed a case for internal political reasons and Novak was just excellent target person.
@@buki32 Truth, It was set up... Djokovic asked and sent letter, they said it's Ok until he landed then it was a problem.... disgusting.
on TOP of that, the aussie border officials put novx in a cvd prison hotel, and fed him extremely SUBSTANDARD food for a world class athlete!! thats despicable!
@@WonderWhatHappened
Well then how was Nadal able to enter?
He didn't quarantine the amount of days required yet he was able to enter
Explain that then
We been over this already
Some non-vaccinated players were also already let in regardless how they did they slip in then?
It wasn't a problem until Novak tried to entered of course funny that
Whoever edited this video is the real legend
Djokovic's outfit really does him good. It matches so well, it brings out the color of his eyes.
Lol thought that too. Everyone getting super worked up about this issue & I’m just like, damn, nice jacket
He has eye lenses
The Goat is a class act
Back in 1989, infamous Ben Johnson tested positive for the anabolic steroid stanozolol and was stripped of his gold medal at the 1988 Seoul Olympics. Of the eight athletes who competed in the 100m final - five of them subsequently failed drugs tests. On the other hand, American sprinter Carl Lewis- who “won” the event, had failed 3 drug tests in the months leading up to the Olympics but the USOC covered for him so he wouldn’t be banned.
Today Ben Johnson coaches aspiring soccer stars at the Genova International Soccer School in Italy. He still burns with what he sees as the unfairness of his treatment by the IOC, making conspiratorial claims that he was sacrificed while others were “protected who were taking the same thing.”
That's wild. This is why sometimes I don't care for sports it's crap like this that puts me off what's the point of watching sports if it's going to be biased and not fair?
There is no point
You could see the bias in Tennis easily when the big 3 were playing and that to put me off
There's no respect for the players at all and some athletes already have a bigger advantage just from where they are born.
Had this happened to Novak.. oh man... they probably wold have banned him for ever
Lance Armstrong ha vinto 7 Tour perché si grazie al doping ma anche perché era più forte. Anche se Fritz e Tiafoe si dopassero non vincono gli Slam perché non sono campioni ma buoni giocatori.
@@nicolagomiero8866😂🧔🏾♀️
Ben also tested positive after the ‘88 Olympics and was subsequently banned. Can’t fix stupid I guess 🤷🏻♂️
@@iamdaliborI’m a Novak fan, but he’s probably been covered for already - I think all of the big 3 have been covered for. Now with Novak, maybe it would be a bit different but for sure he has had special treatment.
The Bortolotti case should have been brought to the attention of the media immediately, at least his colleagues could do without fueling untrue rumors. He had the same problem as Sinner and the same resolution even though we are talking about the number 350 in the world. Far from favoritism for the number 1. Furthermore, Bortolotti, like Sinner, is Italian and this is not a coincidence. The product in question, which is used via spray, is on sale in Italy without a medical prescription to buy it. This can certainly increase the probability of error.
great point!
@@nikk5316what brand is the spray? I've heard it was a cream his physio used?
The spray you can find on Internet and on the Spray is big sign DOPPiNG 😅@@thediplomat3137
@@thediplomat3137Trofodemin
@@thediplomat3137Is called Trofodermin, sold as a cream or spray
Here's my opinion, Tiafoe has done too much patron, Fritz is a natural blonde, Carlos is the Spanish Jerry Lewis of tennis, Sinner looks doped already without dope, the only one addressing this situation was Novak, this is why he's the GOAT
Haha, he used the most drugs and doping I am sure...at least growing hormone from which his chin increased, it is tipicall sign.
Carlos = Spanish Jerry Lewis is spot on hilarious 🤣
@@BeStrong4ever ahhahaha can't stop laughing
@@shinjiuuh Me too 🤣 I can’t believe I didn’t see Jerry Lewis in Carlos before! - just watched Carlos lose in straight sets and all I saw was Jerry Lewis !!! 🤣
@@EdwardMaz LOVE this comment 🤣 everyone mentioned is pegged right on! 👍🏻 WOW , just too good
Alcaraz feels more pressure in interviews than matches, cuz of his English xd
Djoker said the PTPA would guarantee equal treatment. I agree.
It is not up to tennis players associations to judge on doping. He just seized an opportunity for marketing himself and his organization, at the expense of poor Sinner who's evidently innocent and he knows that. Politics should be kept out from this.
@@daniele8716 What I took from Djoker was that the PTPA was not to judge but make sure every player regardless of status would have a proper defence via the union. I agree Sinner seems innocent but be did get caught twice...
2:00 If you want to hear something worthwhile
It's clear that no one says I believe in him period. It's because they are not sure. In my case, I feel there are a lot of things that are very difficult of believing, one of the two guys in charge of Jannik physical preparation is an expert in pharmaceuticals, had already 15 years of experience in this field and also had a personal experience in a basketball team in Italy where they had a problem with the same substance "Clostebol"..... So the story of the cream and massage is not believable not from the possibility that the substance enter to the bloodstream this way, but from the point of view that these guys weren't aware of the composition of the cream.... So known in Italy and with a warning in the envelope...
To conclude, two options : the entire team knew and worked with this substance and they played with the risk of being caught, because a little overdose and the controls detect the substance and they used it probably during a long time..
The other option is that Jannik didn't know what these guys are using to enhance his performance. It would be good to know if the entire team received a variable depending of the results of Jannik, if this assumption was true, we would have the reason why they used the substance without Jannik knowing......
The only thing clear here is that the procedures of Atp are everything but clear and transparents.
So, you built all this giant house of cards based on the premise that an error from the physio is not believable while a conscious decision to use a doping substance that they perfectly know is detectable in a quantity that provides zero performance enhancement is a much more believable option.
In other words, for as hard as you try, you cannot think of a more logical explanation that Jannik (or his team, without his knowledge) decided to take take the 100% certain risk of destroying his career in exchange for absolutely no reward.
Your hypothesis says that the risk of detection comes from an overdose. The highest amount detected in those two tests was 86 trillionths of a gram per milliliter, a quantity that generates a whopping 0% performance enhancement. And this was an "overdose". I really want to meet the genius who wrote such a devastating doping program. If he received any compensation, fixed or variable, for this then as next step he should seriously consider selling igloos to the nomadic populations of the Sahara desert.
The pharma guy was aware that the spray had a banned substance. Him having it and giving it to the physio it was certainly negligent. The most likely scenario is that he picked up some crap from the pharmacy and thought that as long as he was careful with it it wouldn't be an issue, and then wasn't careful enough. Ie incompetence.
Your absurd conspiracy theories are just that - absurd.
First I heard it was a billionth, now you saw 84 trillionth, next it will be 256 quadrillionth etc. The numbers are irrelevant, why, because theyvdon't determine the time of doping which would be the highest concentrating which eventually subdues. Clostebol is used for building muscle mass which increases performance. It's logical that a tennis player or any athelete would use that in spans between tournaments determining that there wouldn't be any left in the bloodstream at the time of the tournament incase they get tested and if it was, well the result would be in the soncalled trillionths you mention. Lets face the facts, Sinners appearance definitely isn't one of Arnold Swartsineiger in his hey day, so he needs the muscle to perform at the highest level.
Djokovic is a most articulate and intelligent dude, not only the 'street punk' advertised by Boris Becker. Of course he is also that, coming from war-torn Balkans with the 'Serbian burden', even 'stigma' burning his soul and all that shit plus his fierce temperament and super-human focus, perfectionism and will to win and be the best and all the other "annoying stuff" --- yeah, what a mixed bag of qualities, admirable and some maybe less so. As conflicted persona, that is, public profile as they come: a Balkan gunpowder barrel and a yogi in a perfect piece. But articulate he is and quite apt with words also.
Not one of them was articulate, they all emmed and hawed their way through the interview.
@@lesrinewhitby4653 Be more *articulate*, young man!
@@jackquinneswell said😊❤
@@lesrinewhitby4653and still u watched it😂
@@lesrinewhitby4653sono assolutamente d'accordo con lei. Djokovich è sempre nitido nel suo pensiero. Alcaraz, come tutti gli ispanici, fatica a formulare un pensiero razionale pur essendo un grande giocatore.
The goat spoke facts and had the best speech.
you don't know why? he's the most senior, most experienced, most, probably, respected in this field now with his peer all or almost all retired. Of course he can have that observation and audacity to say what he said. The other players are much younger! They still have a heck of a career out there and didn't or shouldn't say too much or utter too strong opinionated words.
@@Piedpied951 bro I’m just saying, u don’t have too write a whole essay explaining why the players are too young to give a good speech
@@Emp3ror_Ay33n Agree :-)
Jeezaz. I was waiting for Djokovic to finish his talking but was endless.
How mature the GOATS reply is
Djokovic says more thoughtful things in one answer in one presser than Nadal and Federer did during their whole careers combined. They never stood up for anybody or said anything of value. Robots without a single original thought.
Good lord, are you deluded!
@@ricklee5845Roger, is that you?😂🤡 post a link to one single presser when you said anything of value. One is enough.
@@CornerKidFilms Whatever you say Bethany! I exist to serve. You are my favourite stalker❤
Only Djokovic expressed an opinion. I'm interested in hearing what Daniil thinks.
Good remark he should have been in this video
WORD
oh yeah. it will be a wittier kyrgios
Daniil response was great also
Fritz also but kind of a held back opinion
_"Rules for thee but not for me."_
It is unfair for Jannik. Read instead to spoke shit
@@elisabettad.6280 Were you a fly on the wall during Sinner's "medical" exams. You must know something we do not.
@@davidhunternyc1 She is fan girl and will defend cheater no matter what.
I don't understand how he is not suspended. He was tested positive twice. Than he skips two tournaments not to get tested. His statement: "people that know me know that I will never do anything illegal" and "now I know who are my friends" wtf GILTY.
It is his fault, even if the member of his team exposed him to the drug which I doubt. Players are talking about him for a while that he is dope and cheat. His team knows that. Why they did not make sure that no one is using illegal drugs/spreys around him.
They are all at it.
Novak ,take it (US open). IT'S YOOOOOUUUUURRSSSSSSSS !!!❤🎉🍀🎾🏆
AMIIIIN 🙏🏼❤️
Alcaraz
oops
Yes
In professional bodybuilding, if they test for banned substances and enforce bans, there would be no one on stage.
Marco Bortolotti does not get suspended for testing positive to the same substance and nobody cares. The number 1 does not get suspended for the same reasons and a lot of people complain. I guess it's a double standard situation. Tennis players should play tennis not doing politics or pretend to be navigated Jurists.
Clearly its because jannik is number one so people very concern about.. but as jannik said he has done anything wrong and we here to support him. i just believe this problem gona make jannik stronger
Why did this come out right before the Open? It happened in March. I fear that this will affect his play at the Open which might favor Djoker.
Im italian and im a Sinner Fun,
I have great respect for Fritz, he is a great tennis player and always polite. Doping cases are not all the same, that's why there is a court that judges tennis players, there have been some cases judged as not guilty of doping even before Sinner's doping came out and others judged guilty, it would be enough to get informed
I really don't want to doubt sinner.
But to be honest, it is indeed true that his recent performance has suddenly improved by leaps and bounds...
This is also something that makes me feel very suspicious...
But I think Sinner failed the drug test. And twice...
This really deserves a ban.
After all, it was his team that had the problem. But it was his team after all. So that was also his negligence.
I think we still have to follow the rules. If we should be banned, we should be banned...
After all, he failed two drug tests... not just once...
If you fail two consecutive drug tests, you can continue to compete...
This is very unfair to other players.
And don't forget...
Sinner's current coach is Agassi's former coach.....Darren Cahill.
If you all still remember, Agassiz published an autobiography after his retirement.
He mentioned in his autobiography that he actually took an undetectable drug in the middle and later stages of his career.
It made him full of physical strength and explosive power in the game.
Then Agassi's coach at that time is now Sinner's coach...Darren Cahill...
so...
And after Sinner hired Agassiz's former coach...
It is a fact that performance has improved by leaps and bounds in a short period of time.
He also became the World NO.1 now..
So I really think Sinner shouldn't let him play...
Rules are rules..ok
He is the player with the most gradual growth. And what should we think of alcaraz then?
@@林志傑-n3s the tests were made within 8 days from each other and the experts said that it was coerent with the amount of substance found
Well said. He was very fishy and I kept asking how come he stands out from the rest as his game is just ground stroke game. People Saif he hit so hard and so clean, yes, but who is not in top 20? now I know, he hits harder with no fatigue, like playing a robot. Sorry for those who didn't cheat! After Novak retires, I will stop watching tennis as it is a very corrupt game.
sure, by 10 elevated -10 g concentration of the M1 metabolite of Clostebol. Read this before answering www.itia.tennis/media/yzgd3xoz/240819-itia-v-sinner.pdf
@@meisu3287 actually he is good at everything, he isn't just a better copy of rublev
LOL, how many of them are not doping???? Seriously, McEnroe admitted that he was doping most of his career
Word. Tennis a dirty sport.
What a weird response-when only one player here tested positive. What happened 45 years ago is somewhat irrelevant. If everyone is doping, I guess Sinner was just real unlucky for getting caught. Meanwhile in 20 years, Djoko has never been caught in over 300+ drug tests…
@@Mark-ut5oq I think maybe you're not aware of the prevalence of doping in sport generally and tennis specifically. At least five Italian tennis players have been rung up by this Clostebol thing in recent years, but it's not just them. Agassi admitted to being on crystal meth when he was playing in the late 90s. Sharapova on meldonium in 2016. I mean... it's a long damn list.
This was my question (not statement though) too. How is possible to keep playing that much and that productive for months as Janik did during the first half of the year? There should be something taken to keep body performing consistently that well. I genuinely like Sinner and believe he's a gifted and young athlete
In McEnroe's case, he clarified that he was taking NSAIDs, not anabolic steroids .. the guy was taking prednisone
Did we really expect they would be on his side? Of course they are coming out with neutral statements and they shouldn’t even be asked about it. They clearly haven’t read the sentence and it’s not their job to do anything about it.
www.itia.tennis/media/yzgd3xoz/240819-itia-v-sinner.pdf here is the ITIA verdict. Quite clear
Yeah, neutrality is always the safest action because no one really knows besides Sinner and his team.
Did he do it intentionally? Maybe, maybe not.
Plus why would they really care anyways, the tennis season keeps going and they definitely have better things to do than read Sinner’s full case. It’s a slam and they should be training not forming judgement on a closed case.
@@dome_thelazyegg19 considering he had 86pg/mL of clostebol in his body, aka
0.000000000086g/mL, waaaaaay too little to perceive any effects, it was most likely a contamination, hence the tribunal accepting his version
It would be nice if this great video included information about the incident that these players are speaking about, thank you.
A true love between all tennis players...😮
Nole and Fritz were spot on.... everyone should get the same treatment
I agree, provided that the case is the same and the conditions are the same and the consequences are the same... Nole and Fritz, two lucky guys that have never been caught, and Nole hiding and running away and providing fake documents during COVID is no saint either... all ready to throw stones at Jannik, but I'd really wish to know who is without sin
If this happened to Djokovic it would be top news all over the world…
They'd ban him for life!
well he just hasnt been caught yet....you know all those bathroom breaks and then totally brand new on the court....Besides if he was found and exposed they would cover it....
@@nikosgr9290 PED’S don’t give you instant energy so your bathroom break BS theory makes no sense. They give you enhancements over a period of time.
@@nikosgr9290 Νικόλ μου, δεν εκπλήσσομαι που είσαι Έλληνας. Μόνο Έλληνας θα έκανε τέτοιο κατάπτυστο σχόλιο. Πρέπει να σε έτσουξε ΠΟΛΥ μπολιασμένο μου προβατάκι εσένα ο Νόλε.... ΜΠΕΕΕΕΕΕΕΕΕ!!!!!!!!!!!
@@nikosgr9290 nadal and serena havent been caught
Let me translate. Had Sinner been 200 in the world, he would have been suspended.
Yes but please read the Italian comments here… 🤦♂️😅
Players have expressed their opinion. Sinner's case is a problem.
@@MegaPapa8888 sinner case is close and innocent . I don’t see where is a problem….
Whatever that means.
That’s right, the rules should be standardised and applied to all players fairly and equally without exemptions.
The rules are standardized and there are no exemptions. Everything in this case was by the book.
The only argument you can make is maybe you think they were too harsh on others in the past. In which case they can fix that going forward. But it's clear as day that Sinner is innocent in this case.
Everyone knows that this is cover up. Players are afraid to say it publicly. Taylor Fritz was closest to saying it as it is. One day in the future truth will come out.
It's not up to a player or journalist to determine if someone is innocent or guilty.
No, it's up to the Italian ATP president.😅
@@longinusgalaxy411 lol
But who the player is has a weight or impact on the handling. It's BS for them to say that the authority didn't know who it was, and it was only a number representing each sample/case. Don't treat us like we were two years old.
"It's not up to a player or journalist to determine if someone is innocent or guilty"
Tell that to Novak who had "journalists" up his butt crack 24/7 portraying him as a bad guy constantly
Those journalists sure knew who was guilty or innocent in Tennis lol
We all know who out of the big 3 aye
But they can question or not?
Would not be surprised to see Djokovic serve in some capacity down the road such as Commissioner of Tennis.
Is Djokovic aging backwards, dude is looking fresh🔥
What he feeds his body has a positive affect! He is determined to look after it.
My guess is now that he has the Gold, he is more relaxed and it shows
@@allyall22 thank you brother
This case is totally different from the others. The presence of clostebol was absolutelly irrilevant and totally not associated to a tentative of enhancing performances. It is a case of contamination and the investigation was focused on understanding if there was a player misconduct or superficiality. But it is clear and beyond any doubt that an unvoluntary mistake of his phsiyo was the cause.
Only one curious fact connects Halep and Sinner and their innocence: their coach James Cahill.
Physio was in Sinner’s case massaging and clostebol went into organism of Jannik through the wound in his finger?
C’mon. It’s good that I am from Finland and I believe in Santa Claus.
@@jukkao.parviainen8669Halep admitted ingesting something.
@@jukkao.parviainen8669 Jean-François Naud, director of the WADA laboratories in Montreal; Xavier de la Torre, scientific director of the WADA laboratories in Rome; David Cowan, professor emeritus at King's College London and head of the WADA laboratories in London (the three experts of the medical commission called to confer with the independent tribunal that judged the case) said in their technical report that the contamination is not only possible, but in this case it is the only plausible explanation. Notice: they didn't even know the name of the player. The analyse was anonimous, so that their opinion could not be influenced. Can we say three WADA experts and University Professors believe in Santa Claus?
@@jukkao.parviainen8669 if you consider that were found 0.000000001 grams of substance then yes, it went into his body through contamination
@@jukkao.parviainen8669When Halep was suspended her coach was Williams' former coach
If this was an non westener they would have been banned..
Nadal and Roger would have kissed the establishment boots.. I love that Novak always says what he thinks and that is the reason the establishment hates him and have always made his the “bad guy” 😂 🤡
Bro how does federer and nadal factor into this. Yall novak glazers are insane. Good on novak for speaking some sense to this situation but why tf do you have to bring the other 2 up??
did you smoke? novak anti-establishment? "and the establishment hates him" you don't know what are talking about he is part of the establishment .... and why do you have to bring Nadal and Federer into the mix?
You have no idea what Rafa would have said!!!!!
Dude was cleared like it was hand cream, crazy.
Expert in antidoping has spoken!
Stop 🛑 aux choux 🥦 gras😂😂😂😂
@@Notlikeus1959
Another one!
Here below there are a bunch of comments of people that try to analyze the situation. Some I agree with others I don’t. But I take my hat off to how people try to express their opinions considering different point of views. Then you find the people who simply … have nothing to say and they say it anyway!
do u know how much a billionth of a gram is?
@@Notlikeus1959 huh
Despite the name ('sinner'...), that might not help in front of a jury, I think the way the investigation team treated him was fair. Other players were treated unfairly? Well, that's not a good reason for advocating an unjust treatment for the nice Italian guy as well. Probably some of these interviews will have a bitter taste for Sinner who yesterday wisely stated that the current situation will make him understand who, among his colleagues, really is his friend.
Marco Bortolotti n.350 Atp è stato assolto allo stesso modo, Nole non è informato nessun trattamento di favore per il n. 1 trattato allo stesso modo deln.350
Well said!
@@rosadalmonego1511it seems only italians
Bc he’s a “nice” Italian guy he should get better treatment? Where was this upset when other players were NOT treated fairly? Get real
Atp president is Italian
All players should be treated equally (to Sinner) is well-versed. But this is only valid that if the said "all players" have one billionth of a gram in their cardiovascular system of the given substance. All respect due, Djokovic was using the moment to do some marketing of his organisation. Numbers are important, and he is well aware of that.
Federer is not pictured here, but he was asked on American TV morning news and Fed said Sinner is "EXTREMELY Lucky not to receive a ban" normally the governing body will ban First and ask questions later
Federer said he was very surprised why a ban is not in place
If Siner is innocent, why were his ATP points taken away, if he is guilty, why was he not suspended for a year?!
Read the rules it's written there why.
You ignore how the process works, this is why you make this stupid questions
So when you have no arguments, you write to someone that he is stupid. Obviously you are stupid here!
So when you don't have any arguments, you simply call people stupid, and that makes you a stupid fool!
"If the man didn't commit murder, why was he arrested?"
Novak Djokovic a great player and a great human.
Remember that Amstrong was never NEVER caught!
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E che caxxo c'entra? It is not the same case. Zitto
True, it was his former teammate who sold him out.
I just don't know why somebody on his "team," including Sinner, doesn't just take a lie detector test! I know they are not 100% however, they are pretty good and I would be all over it to clear my name.
Agasi je napisao knjigu u kojoj je priznao da se dopingovao.
Very nice compilation of words salads
Novak is perfect in his assessment of the circumstances of the case and its relationship to the treatment of all the players. His call for standardisation and equality in terms of legal formal and informal, procedures and practices applying to all players regardless of ranking or profile. Transparency, integrity and accountability are sadly lacking in this case. I believe it is a systemic issue rather than the fault of the player concerned with this particular case.
Après le réponse éloquente de Djokovic, entendre Alcaraz c'est juste hilarant😂😂😂😂
Djokovic is 37, Carlos 21
Carlos and Rafa have the same thing in common.... BRAUN...
Some guy got a 4-year ban for testing positive for the same drug. Whether it was intentional or not, it enhanced Sinner's performance.
It did not
@@agear2 Of course it did - that's why it is on the illegal list.
@@oleandreasen one of the main reasons he was cleared was because the amount they found in his body wouldn’t be enough to enhance his performance but I guess that reading is not for everyone
@@oleandreasenare you a scientist? Do you have evidence that a portion that size would help performance when the actual scientists say otherwise?
@@oleandreasen No, the quantity was so minimal and ridiculously low that it couldn't affect Sinner performances in any way, it was just an accidental contamination
0,000000001% was the value found on sinner because oh his team mess up with finger cut.
This is important not to forget; also Sinner was able to trace the contamination immediately, and according the governing body there were no reason to stop it.
That’s it, move on.
Test was positive Twice!!! The amount of the supstance is irrelevant. He was doped! And he should have been suspended!
@@BikiG1 No shit, if you do the same test twice you'll most likely get the same result twice.
They're not contesting that he had it in his system, they're contesting whether it was his fault.
And the amount is absolutely relevant.
And he should only be suspended if found guilty, which he wasn't.
let's hope sinner keeps his spirits high, because that's good for the sport. The rivalry Sinner-Alcaraz is probably the one that will mark the following ten years. Let's also hope the governing authorities listen to Djokovic, because he is completely right about this situation.
Cool display of splitting the screen up into fractions and having them speak one by one