Gregory didn't try to kill Cassie at the elevator? [FNAF RUIN DLC Theory]

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  • @superliogaming
    @superliogaming 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    The fact that there’s 2 “Gregory” text boxes at the same time as the sound comes further helps as proof that the mimic switched who she was talk in to mid conversation

  • @blueboy7202
    @blueboy7202 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    I completely forgot that gregory said that he is not at the pizza plex so there's no way he could've deactivated the elevator

    • @TheAbsoluteCYNical
      @TheAbsoluteCYNical ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes

    • @jacksparrow-os3iw
      @jacksparrow-os3iw ปีที่แล้ว

      he hacked the speaker and knew exactly where cassie was but he can't make a rusty elvator fall?

    • @808hearmannxea2
      @808hearmannxea2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@jacksparrow-os3iwwhy would bro say "down here" instead of "down there" he wasn't in the pizzaplex.

    • @cupid2876
      @cupid2876 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@jacksparrow-os3iw It says “we cant be followed” Gregory isn’t there! Who is the we?

    • @GwynethRoseCliff
      @GwynethRoseCliff 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@cupid2876 To me, "We can't risk being followed" doesn't refer to Gregory, Vanessa, and Freddy but actually refers to Cassie and Mimic themselves and at the same time Mimic doesn't really allow Cassie to escape from its clutches.

  • @Mszbuttercup
    @Mszbuttercup ปีที่แล้ว +53

    Finally someone know that it was not real Gregory talking

    • @jacksparrow-os3iw
      @jacksparrow-os3iw ปีที่แล้ว

      it was though

    • @jared2879
      @jared2879 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@jacksparrow-os3iwfor the first part yes but when static it’s mimic

    • @jacksparrow-os3iw
      @jacksparrow-os3iw ปีที่แล้ว

      it's all gregory idiot that's headcannon it was never confirmed it was mimic it was confirmed to be gregory via files and there no static part it was high pitched for a second which is what happens when you talk into a megaphone.@@jared2879

  • @tamainewolfe2138
    @tamainewolfe2138 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Finally, someone knows that it wasn’t Gregory, and it was the mimic because people don’t stop to think. How was Gregory able to cut the elevator cable if he wasn’t in the Pizzaplex?

  • @Darkywuz
    @Darkywuz ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Funny detail: "Gregory" says "To save me". Why would Gregory say "to save me" if he wasn't even in the Pizzaplex? This makes the theory more clear since the one that Cassie actually saves is The Mimic.

  • @masonhandforth1369
    @masonhandforth1369 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    If you look closely at the Mimic's hands, one has more regular finger tips while the other has sharp claws, and the hand that broke off was the more round finger tips which means, depending on if the Mimic can climb with one hand which is possible (not easy ofcourse but possible) it could have somehow cut the cable that was lifting the elevator.

    • @TheVeryPinkCupcake
      @TheVeryPinkCupcake  ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I just spot that now -- that's good thinking, maybe the mimic fell with the elevator too?

  • @RogerStanford23
    @RogerStanford23 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    yeah its was mimic he said im not in pizzaplax
    then how greogry cut elevetor wires thats time i find out he was mimic

  • @Emerald0513
    @Emerald0513 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    I've been going with this theory before I saw your channel.nice to find another person who actually thinks that

  • @WolfyStarr
    @WolfyStarr ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I was saying that gregory did not kill cassie the mimic did!

  • @brenocoutinho2012
    @brenocoutinho2012 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    A Theory; After Gregory says, It's not your fault, I know you did it for me, to save me... but we can't risk her following us, I'm sorry. Before Gregory said; It wasn't your fault, we heard a noise. Mimic interrupted the Call with Cassie and Gregory. People say that Gregory knocked down the elevator to save Cassie from the mimic, but.... How did he deactivate the elevator when he wasn't at the Pizzaplex this whole time?

    • @brenocoutinho2012
      @brenocoutinho2012 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      If Gregory and Cassie were brothers, Gregory would never do this to Cassie, Knock down the elevator to save Cassie, We can say that Gregory didn't knock down the Elevator and Yes mimic, Supposedly there would be a Ruin 2, Security Breach 2 or Stell wool Games would put other chapters within the RUIN DLC.

  • @j03_k33ry
    @j03_k33ry ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Wait i think the "gregory" voice was the mimic the whole game- because why would gregory try and disable the glitch rabbit for cassie when HE and vanessa was the one who made it? And for the purpose of NOT freeing the mimic. Only the MIMIC would want to disable it because disabaling it wod help it get free! obviously since cassie let it go, it would make sense for gregory to betray her, but last time i checked, gregory escaped the pizzaplex alr. Why would he lead his bestfriend back to there to save him? He was ready gone. Plus gregory probably has acess to intercom through VANESSA. She was a security guard and has acess to them remember? But honestly, it probably wasnt gregory using those itercoms. Like i implied, it may have been the mimic. This is an opinion, i just dont think some 14 yr old would do that to their bestfriend. Gregory was just trying to escape so why would he even be back there. And for people saying vanny kidnapped him, i dont think so. Vanessa and gregory and freddy did escape together. Vanessa is vanny so if she left with gregory why would she kidnap him and bring him back. There is no ending where she kidnapped him. Assuming the bad ending where she showed up to his cardboard box outside, she killed him. But there is no kidnap ending so it wouldnt make sense to put him back there when you could just kill him off. I could be wrong, but i really do think thats NOT gregory. We havent seen gregory the WHOLE RUIN game. If they showed gregory in some point of the game. Then i would actually believe he was there. So i think cassie was being trolled. She was leaded to the pizzaplex by the mimic so the mimic would get freed, and then basically kill her. You did great on this video btw. I agree with you ❤❤

    • @TheVeryPinkCupcake
      @TheVeryPinkCupcake  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Oh yeah I agree with you, I didn't mention it in the video but I do think that throughout the whole game until the ending, was the mimic talking to Gregory. There is some points in the game where it's the real gregory trying to communicate to Cassie. Yes I am pretty sure that throughout Ruin, gregory is with Vannessa. Thank u for the compliment ! 💙

    • @j03_k33ry
      @j03_k33ry ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@TheVeryPinkCupcake :D

  • @mariareina6951
    @mariareina6951 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hey couldn’t be cool to see in the next ruin dlc game Vanessa the real Gregory and glamrock Freddy coming back to the pizzaplex to rescue Cassie and Roxy from the mimic and see people realizing that is Gregory innocent 😊

  • @buttonsonyt
    @buttonsonyt ปีที่แล้ว +10

    he wouldnt guide cassie to the elevator just to shut it off and kill cassie. it makes NO SENSE

    • @TheVeryPinkCupcake
      @TheVeryPinkCupcake  ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Thats what im saying like you could hear his worriness from the beginning when he contacted her

    • @zyionsalter4105
      @zyionsalter4105 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      True facts people be saying Gregory would do this and I'm like it couldn't be Gregory that would mean he would have to go all the way underground and like you said why would he lead us to the elevator just to drop it like that doesn't make sense

  • @cupid2876
    @cupid2876 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I don’t think Cassie talked to Gregory at all in this scene. “Down here” and “we cant be followed” imply Gregory is also down there with Cassie however we know for a fact he’s not. Also Im like 98% sure Gregory doesn’t even know all this about the mimic so how would he be able to tell Cassie who exactly imprisoned it?

  • @thebiglumpgust676
    @thebiglumpgust676 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Yeah. As Cassie sais earlier on: “your not Gregory” the MIMICCC✋ 😃 🤚

  • @arlfiftyfourtd8132
    @arlfiftyfourtd8132 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Definitely the Mimic (the dialogue is titled 'Gregory' not 'Grimic' but surely it was the Mimic)

  • @christiandelez4223
    @christiandelez4223 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I knew it was mimic mimicking Gregory's voice again why would Gregory betrayed Cassie that was the mimic but how Gregory can access the speaker but he doesn't have machine or something that was actually the mimic

  • @bibiaGIRL
    @bibiaGIRL ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I really believe that Gregory wasn't the one who did this to Cassie, firstly there's no possibility and the game ended with a very big mystery that ended up blaming Gregory as a traitor, but there's no way of knowing who really It was him and this end of the dlc ended without explanation he killed Cassie just because "we can't risk being followed?" This is very strange first, he is a child and not a psychopath, why would he kill Cassie, in fact we don't know the origin of these two children, but anyway, how could he activate the elevator if he wasn't in the pizzaplex? Gregory was never there that day so how could he have made that elevator fall? I don't know and it also seems that the game takes place in 2020 or 2021, where we have a lot of technology to be used, the mimic can make the elevator fall, too. it could have simply been someone who already knew about the existence of Cassie's Gregory and could have been using Gregory's image to trick Cassie, someone who wanted to free Mimic and Mimic himself wasn't going to do it alone, someone used Gregory's image to be able to attract Cassie for there because this dlc is where Freddy doesn't have his head and as we know there is an ending where we know that Gregory left the pizzaplex with Freddy's head so why would he go back there and activate the elevator to Cassie falls, this is like it 2017, where Bill was always talking to Georgie and it was never really him, but a monster behind the mask, or it could also be him but he could be being forced to do this threatening his lives and Cassie and he could be forced to do this without him wanting to make the person or monster that activated the elevator sure that it wasn't him because really when Gregory stopped talking it really was another person or monster that cut the connection, it wasn't the Gregory. but we will only really find out the truth if the game has a new fnaf security breach dlc.

  • @_rx_38
    @_rx_38 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Cassie just got unconscious and how would gregory know that cassie shut off the security system?
    Edit: how would gregory also know that cassie went to the pizzaplex

  • @Error_dude098
    @Error_dude098 ปีที่แล้ว

    And there is another ending that cassie scooped the mimic

  • @powerleech7057
    @powerleech7057 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I am inclined to believe that when it comes to meeting decent people, my luck is shit. Because every time I come across something relating to “Did gregory really betray Cassie?” It somehow becomes a fucking minefield. But I really need to let this out of my chest, otherwise, I’ll blow a gasket.
    Fnaf always had a “not everything is as it seems” energy since the earlier games, which instructs you to not take everything at face value and be more skeptical about with what’s shown. But people are so insistent on believing that Gremlin Gregory was Judas reincarnated with just a few reasons, reasons that I find silly, and I’d like to go over some of the main ones.
    The novels: the dlc itself borrowed a few elements from tales from the pizzaplex, specifically the mimic, even going as far as to make references from GGY that could apparently be found throughout the game. In the novels, it was showcased that Gregory in that series was a hacker capable of tampering with animatronics like he’s on night 7, and was implied to be responsible for some of the disappearances in that story.
    And this reason, I hate this for two specific reasons, mainly in terms of canonicity and how timelines in franchises are handled.
    One of the biggest mistakes a franchise could do is branching out their connected timeline to other medias, such as requiring to watch a TV series in order to understand what’s going on in a movie. While other videogame franchises like Devil May Cry have actually done the same, their novels in particular can stand on their own without having to be a major significance to the games.
    That paragraph above genuinely had no correlation to the main point whatsoever, I just wanted to rant about how much I loathe this timeline structuring in particular.
    Going back on track, the novels argument actually debunks Gregory being evil because of the implications there that he was under glitchtrap’s control. Not only that, the main game’s dialogue actually debunks this before you’re given a chance to leave the pizzaplex or stay:
    “Freddy, if I leave now, nothing will change, will it? There will be more disappearances…”
    While I do blame the amount of cut content steelwool did, people just forget that Gregory, despite being a gremlin, has his little moments of being altruistic. This little tidbit of information actually does help us know why Gregory was in the pizzaplex to begin with.
    As for canonicity, people used the borrowed elements to justify why the novels are canon. But borrowed elements are what they are: borrowed elements, because the existence of remnant and william afton’s name were also borrowed from older novels, but those weren’t canon to begin with, were they? I don’t trust the TFTPP’s canonicity, mainly thanks to “Under Construction” where the pizzaplex was depicted vastly different compared to the game.
    Game Files: this goes back to my “Not everything is as it seems” explanation, where people should not take anything at face value and be skeptical with what’s shown. In an era where anyone could access game files in order to snoop for unused content laying around, I wouldn’t be surprised if Steelwool purposely named that particular file in order for people to keep guessing and put that strange sound in during Gregory’s elevator dialogue to throw people off.
    I know there are other reasons people used to justifying “Gregory Bad” but some of them are so mind-numbingly dumb that I forgot those who were there since fnaf 1 are probably grown up, and have jobs, leaving mostly children now in this fandom

  • @SSDD_FearOfficial
    @SSDD_FearOfficial 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    That was my theory as well

  • @Salvage-Warrior
    @Salvage-Warrior 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I thought Freddy cut the cable and Gregory was on the mic

  • @HunterSmith-c2f
    @HunterSmith-c2f ปีที่แล้ว

    Finally! Someone understands!

  • @OfficialEnvextyPlays
    @OfficialEnvextyPlays ปีที่แล้ว

    IT WAS MIMIC

  • @cuddlycampimaboy4072
    @cuddlycampimaboy4072 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    In the code "Grimic" is the name of the fake Gregory and unfortunately it says Gregory instead of "Grimic" during the final line

    • @TheVeryPinkCupcake
      @TheVeryPinkCupcake  ปีที่แล้ว

      Really ? damn i might be wrong then

    • @EaZy_JoKe
      @EaZy_JoKe ปีที่แล้ว +7

      It could be the devs trying to throw us off, so the next part to the DLC (if there is one) isn't spoiled. Instead making us think that its Gregory by using his code for the final line instead of the "Grimic" code.

    • @TheVeryPinkCupcake
      @TheVeryPinkCupcake  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@EaZy_JoKeYe that would make sense

    • @bibiaGIRL
      @bibiaGIRL 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@EaZy_JoKe EXACTLY! besides SW are not stupid to put "grimic" in that part!

    • @3nc335
      @3nc335 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Not really Gregory killing Cassie or not is a big plot twist and plot line, why would Steel Wool just reveal that in the games files for us to see especially since Steel Wool knows that fans are going to check the game files. A while back the Princess sprite file name was named "Cassidy" but after fans saw the file, Steelwool changed it to just "Princess". This seems like Steel Wool didn't want fans to see the file name and didn't expect fans to check the the files to figure out the lore. So now with Ruin, Steel Wool have learnt their lesson and now know that the fans are going to check files to figure out the lore, so for a imported plot line and plot twist they mislead the fans by naming the final voice line to "Gregory" instead of "Grimic". Since Steel Wool don't want us to figure it out so easily.

  • @realitygaming8425
    @realitygaming8425 ปีที่แล้ว

    I believe your theory

  • @Lazi.sgfnaf
    @Lazi.sgfnaf ปีที่แล้ว

    Yeah

  • @TheAbsoluteCYNical
    @TheAbsoluteCYNical ปีที่แล้ว +1

    But then why didn’t Mimic use the elevator earlier? Now he can’t go up into freedom.
    Other than that I agree with this theory.

    • @TheVeryPinkCupcake
      @TheVeryPinkCupcake  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      He couldn't. It had the security node panel thing, remember he was stuck there and the dirt tunnel was accessable? He would've used the elevator a long time ago if he wanted to

    • @TheAbsoluteCYNical
      @TheAbsoluteCYNical ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TheVeryPinkCupcake but the security was blocking it…?
      Then why does he not use it now that the nodes were deactivated?

    • @TheAbsoluteCYNical
      @TheAbsoluteCYNical ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TheVeryPinkCupcake but the security was blocking it…?
      Then why does he not use it now that the nodes were deactivated?

    • @TheAbsoluteCYNical
      @TheAbsoluteCYNical ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TheVeryPinkCupcake Once the nodes were off, why didn’t he just escape?

    • @TheVeryPinkCupcake
      @TheVeryPinkCupcake  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@TheAbsoluteCYNical He could also just go the other way, where Cassie came from -- I'm sure the mimic is strong enough to possibly take out the ruined animatronics

  • @Huttares
    @Huttares ปีที่แล้ว

    It’s interesting

  • @fallingbird-hw5bt
    @fallingbird-hw5bt ปีที่แล้ว

    Nah bro the figure from doors cut the elevator

  • @jacksparrow-os3iw
    @jacksparrow-os3iw ปีที่แล้ว

    the high pitch noise happens very frequently when talking into megaphones, "Gregory would not be the type of person do this" Bruh he literally is. He killed vanessa, destroyed Freddy's friends then lied about it, broke into the Pizzaplex and has been stealing and living there. And then he's also very apologetic and explains why he did it. Why would the mimic who has no feelings so it can't be sadistic and isn't smart enough to be an emotional manipulator be apologizing if it already has Cassie? And the little subtitle overlap thing is so dumb people keep bringing it up knowing that it isn't the mimic because it's saying the same thing as Gregory; it's an error. This theory makes no sense people keep assuming the mimic thought this, or the mimic wanted this or realized this, actually thinking the mimic is a person which it's not.

    • @TheVeryPinkCupcake
      @TheVeryPinkCupcake  ปีที่แล้ว

      I mean you do have a point but you don't have to bring down other peoples' perspective like that, fnafs lore is all over the place we're just having fun with what we see in the new games

    • @LightGameplays
      @LightGameplays 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

      He isn't living there, He made it very clear he doesn't know his way around without freddy, and also freddy never saw him before. And he also never lied to freddy about what happened. he told freddy soon as he finished upgrading him, and he did NOT kill vanessa idek where you got that one from. And he destroyed the animatronics to upgrade freddy so he can explore more of the missing kids of the pizza plex, and they were TRYING to kill him, it was justified. Also to add onto that gregory shows major sympathy to freddy AND cassie, with all the cardboard cutouts and his genuine concern for her at the end, It doesn't make sense for gregory to help her escape, just to drop the elevator

  • @taiganfrancis2456
    @taiganfrancis2456 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for believing, Gregory 🔵🟤🧍‍♂️, just like me, Rose 🔴, or should I say, Superstar ⭐, because we know that the real Gregory 🔵🟤🧍‍♂️, would never say, "can't risk being followed."

  • @MigratedToHatManMusic
    @MigratedToHatManMusic ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Heres my theory you know how bad those crappy toy walky talkies are and you can barely get a signal? Well how did gregory get a stable signal on top of the pizza plex to down under the pizza plex and Pizza Sim which implies that Gregory was never speaking during the chase scene at all. It was the mimic luring you into the elevator so they could shut off the elevator, to kill Cassie. So, Gregory was never a part of the chase, and you can also tell by how he switches tone. You know those AI sites that go like the pitch is up then it drops down well thats what happened all Throughout Ruin, so it was the Mimic mimicking gregory the entire game and the entire chase scene. Edit: and when you hear "we can't be risked being followed" during "being followed" you hear a deeper and more robot voice in the background saying, "Being Followed.".

  • @Insaa
    @Insaa ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Do you think if this is the canon ending caseie somehow survived or is gone

    • @TheVeryPinkCupcake
      @TheVeryPinkCupcake  ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I do think this is the canon ending. I have a feeling Cassie survived, because of the small Roxy voice line at the end of the credits. Maybe Roxy helped Cassie after the elevator crash

    • @Insaa
      @Insaa ปีที่แล้ว +2

      ​@@TheVeryPinkCupcake Yeah, it would be sad if an amazing character like Cassie is confirmed dead

  • @Kab_4544
    @Kab_4544 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I still think it's Gregory 😂

  • @HatsStudioAndAnimation
    @HatsStudioAndAnimation ปีที่แล้ว

    watch dawko theory