Good point about if even Jesus needed to set time out of the day to pray, then how much more should we be doing the same? This is why we should pray unceasingly! Giving thanks for every little thing; the weather, our food, our family, a smile, our health, our lessons, our faith…
This man blows my mind! and im Catholic already! He makes me want to do the sacraments all over again. I love having both him and Pitre in my arrsenal :)
Special opportunity to develop a profitable and lasting habit… “In these days he went out to the mountain to pray; and all night he continued in prayer to God.” Luke 6:12 RSV-CI
A consideration of Vatican II using the concepts of genus and species. Without getting into the historical background, inner workings and doctrinal details of the Vatican II documents and rather relying on what most Catholics know about it the following analogy I think is most revealing: Aristotle says that the natural way of learning and coming to know things is from the generic to the more specific. Just as when we see something moving in the distance we first identify it as a body and then as it moves closer an animal and even closer a man and finally as this particular person Socrates. Now it needs to be understood that there is a difference between our knowledge of a thing and the thing itself. Our knowledge is always more generic than the thing itself existing in reality which is very specific. If someone were to give the definition of the species of a thing instead of giving the definition of the genus of that thing one would give a more precise and fuller account of the thing. In other words the more specific our knowledge becomes of something the closer our knowledge resembles the thing. The truer our knowledge is, in the sense of having more truth - adeguatio res et intellectus. This is the natural way man comes to know. To try to move in the opposite direction is unatural and against human nature. To try to forget what one already KNOWS about something in order to know it more generically is an act of violence against oneself. It would entail force that goes against one's own nature. Now what is more generic and less specific is more universal. Whereas as what is more specific is more exclusive. In the same way when one says the word animal it can apply to many things. Where when one says man it excludes many things and applies to just one type of animal. Now things that exist in reality ARE NOT generic they are specific. The Church founded by Our Lord is a real existing reality. It is something specific with its own essential elements and properties. Now the Councils, pronouncements and doctrines through the ages became more and more specific. The Church's awareness of itself approached more and more the reality of its own being. It is impossible to move in the other direction. In other words it is impossible to move from a specific knowledge to a more general confused knowledge. A generic knowledge of anything is always more confused than a specific one, just as knowing something only in so far as it is an animal is more confused than knowing it specifically: a man. Instead our knowledge specifies as we gain acquantaince and experience of a thing. This should.not be confused with the knowledge particular persons had of the Church. Ofcourse the apostles and early Christians had a very specific knowledge of the Church. However the Church's formulated doctrine was not as specific. Throughout the centuries this doctrine became better formulated and more specific. This was neccesary especially to rule out heresy and error. A more generic knowledge on the other hand is more open to heresy and error. Now, in order for Vatican II to be less divisive, open to non Catholics and ALSO IN ORDER FOR THERE TO BE CONSENSUS AMONGST THE COUNCIL FATHERS, THE COUNCIL HAD TO REVERSE THE NATURAL PROCEDURE AND PROCLAIM SOMETHING MORE GENERIC THAN PREVIOUS COUNCILS. Now one could argue that the council taught no error. Entering into this debate is not easy and not for the most of us. However knowing that the council purposefully decided to be less specific and more generic is known by all of us. Can we say that a generic knowlwdge of a thing is deficient compared to a fuller specific knowlwdge of a thing? Trying to go against oneself and forget what one once knew creates the impression that one must have been wrong once upon a time. Because why else would one try to forget what once knew? Especially if what one once knew one used to think was valuable and true, a treasure to be safeguarded. How many people do we know who have used Vatican II to look back and interpret older Councils? Anything more specific than the Council is frowned upon as superfluous and outdated. But does truth age? Never the less can we blame them for acquiring this habit when this is a natural consequence of artificially regressing and not progressing in knowledge? Of trying to be less specific and more generic.
Appreciate Dr. Bergsma’s many splendid videos, sharing of his renowned education and defense of the Scriptural basis of Catholic faith and teachings. HOWEVER the defense of non-dogmatic Vatican II, after which religious vocations, belief in real presence, mass attendance, baptisms, confirmations and more are ALL down 75% + on average, suggests the fruits of this hippy council are ALL ROTTEN! What have we gained???
Dr Bergsma great effort to dump down those standing up for the truth. Just one question - what is pope Francis' take on Gay Civil Unions? Some of those living together without marriage are better than married couples? Or who am I to judge those living in same sex relationships? Should I go on? Have the priests permitting same sex marriages in Germany been ex-communicated? What about those bowing down to Pachamana in the Vatican grounds? Or welcoming such an idol into St Peter's Basilica by pope Francis himself? And adulterers to be admitted to Holy Communion? Once again how much can you cover up Sin? God is merciful, He also is a Just God. Anybody who abets Sin is part of it.
No. Vatican did not make sin more acceptable the other nations all did which was enabling the wolves who were already among us too. Wolves for example who like to interrupt the work flow of others often while accusing them of being slothful and unintelligent in comparison while competing for rights to be guardian to the same woman or whatever.
I love how you say Pope Francis is misunderstood. Was he misunderstood when he brought ain the pagan idol pachamama to be worshipped in the house of God, how there are no consequences for the church in Germany while they bless sin, was he misunderstood when he abandoned the Catholic church and faithful in China. What about when he honored in the Vatican the number one Italian abortionist calling her a great friend. The list goes on, amoris making it ok to receive the body of Christ for divorced and remarried. Every divorce I know that now lives in civil union with others receive communion because they say it's ok now.
Yes Ema Benini, Berny Sanders, Cathy Perry, Evo Morales and other enemies of the Church were some of his " Holiness" invited guests. Bergoglio, dime con quien andas y te dire quien eres. Tu plan de desconstruir la Iglesia va mu bien.
Yes. If new Masses are bad, then let’s go all the way back. Let’s go back to order of Mass from the Didache. It’s the oldest liturgy we have and it was in Greek. Why did the innovators need to change it? The Holy Gospels were written in Greek. So was the rest of the New Testament. But Augustine couldn’t even speak it fluently. Why did they cast behind the traditions of their ancestors by changing the order of the liturgy and changing its language from Greek to Latin, especially with a liturgy that was ostensibly handed down from the Apostles?
You have not read Pope Francis teaching documents. Yes, the Pope said you should be holy. Read Evangellium Guadium. Read CNA news of what Pope Francis says. You need to read everything the Pope writes or say and not a few controversial thoughts
Yes, the Vatican make sin more acceptable and because of that and according to what is written in the Word of God, catholicism is considered a false christianity. «Beloved, although I was making every effort to write to you about our common salvation,[b] I now feel a need to write to encourage you to contend for the faith that was once for all handed down to the holy ones. For there have been some intruders, who long ago were designated for this condemnation, godless persons, who pervert the grace of our God into licentiousness and who deny our only Master and Lord, Jesus Christ.» (Jude 3-4 NABRE)
You're not addressing the second Vatican Council, but the Catholic Church itself, here. And your quote is ambiguous because the Catholic Faith *is* the Faith that was handed down to and continues to be handed down by the Church.
@@tony1685 well, you know, prove it. Remind me when you think the Church apostasized. What was the Faith Jude is referring to? Also, in vs 8 he mentions the intruders as rejecting authority: where is there an authority structure to reject?
It reminded me of your teaching on 7habits for Catholics . Thanks a lot, Dr. John Bergsma. God bless you, your family and all your gifts!
Good point about if even Jesus needed to set time out of the day to pray, then how much more should we be doing the same? This is why we should pray unceasingly! Giving thanks for every little thing; the weather, our food, our family, a smile, our health, our lessons, our faith…
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Thank you Dr. Bergsma. Godshine on you and the St. Paul Center.
Thank you Dr Bergsma. I look forward to your teaching every Wednesday.
Thank you Dr Bergsma i really appreciate the call to private more intetional prayer. Its something i have to put more time into
Excellent. Thank you for your words of wisdom. God Bless, Dr. B.
This man blows my mind!
and im Catholic already! He makes me want to do the sacraments all over again. I love having both him and Pitre in my arrsenal :)
Excellent, Dr Bergsma, such inspired and inspiring words! God bless you and your family!
Special opportunity to develop a profitable and lasting habit…
“In these days he went out to the mountain to pray; and all night he continued in prayer to God.”
Luke 6:12 RSV-CI
Thank you very much for this and God bless!
God bless you Dr. Bersgma
Thanks , love your teaching!
Thank you Dr.John Bergsma
Beautiful get the Word out like Jesus.🐧
A consideration of Vatican II using the concepts of genus and species.
Without getting into the historical background, inner workings and doctrinal details of the Vatican II documents and rather relying on what most Catholics know about it the following analogy I think is most revealing:
Aristotle says that the natural way of learning and coming to know things is from the generic to the more specific. Just as when we see something moving in the distance we first identify it as a body and then as it moves closer an animal and even closer a man and finally as this particular person Socrates.
Now it needs to be understood that there is a difference between our knowledge of a thing and the thing itself. Our knowledge is always more generic than the thing itself existing in reality which is very specific. If someone were to give the definition of the species of a thing instead of giving the definition of the genus of that thing one would give a more precise and fuller account of the thing. In other words the more specific our knowledge becomes of something the closer our knowledge resembles the thing. The truer our knowledge is, in the sense of having more truth - adeguatio res et intellectus.
This is the natural way man comes to know. To try to move in the opposite direction is unatural and against human nature. To try to forget what one already KNOWS about something in order to know it more generically is an act of violence against oneself. It would entail force that goes against one's own nature.
Now what is more generic and less specific is more universal. Whereas as what is more specific is more exclusive. In the same way when one says the word animal it can apply to many things. Where when one says man it excludes many things and applies to just one type of animal. Now things that exist in reality ARE NOT generic they are specific.
The Church founded by Our Lord is a real existing reality. It is something specific with its own essential elements and properties.
Now the Councils, pronouncements and doctrines through the ages became more and more specific. The Church's awareness of itself approached more and more the reality of its own being. It is impossible to move in the other direction. In other words it is impossible to move from a specific knowledge to a more general confused knowledge. A generic knowledge of anything is always more confused than a specific one, just as knowing something only in so far as it is an animal is more confused than knowing it specifically: a man. Instead our knowledge specifies as we gain acquantaince and experience of a thing. This should.not be confused with the knowledge particular persons had of the Church. Ofcourse the apostles and early Christians had a very specific knowledge of the Church. However the Church's formulated doctrine was not as specific. Throughout the centuries this doctrine became better formulated and more specific. This was neccesary especially to rule out heresy and error. A more generic knowledge on the other hand is more open to heresy and error.
Now, in order for Vatican II to be less divisive, open to non Catholics and ALSO IN ORDER FOR THERE TO BE CONSENSUS AMONGST THE COUNCIL FATHERS, THE COUNCIL HAD TO REVERSE THE NATURAL PROCEDURE AND PROCLAIM SOMETHING MORE GENERIC THAN PREVIOUS COUNCILS.
Now one could argue that the council taught no error. Entering into this debate is not easy and not for the most of us. However knowing that the council purposefully decided to be less specific and more generic is known by all of us. Can we say that a generic knowlwdge of a thing is deficient compared to a fuller specific knowlwdge of a thing? Trying to go against oneself and forget what one once knew creates the impression that one must have been wrong once upon a time. Because why else would one try to forget what once knew? Especially if what one once knew one used to think was valuable and true, a treasure to be safeguarded.
How many people do we know who have used Vatican II to look back and interpret older Councils? Anything more specific than the Council is frowned upon as superfluous and outdated. But does truth age? Never the less can we blame them for acquiring this habit when this is a natural consequence of artificially regressing and not progressing in knowledge? Of trying to be less specific and more generic.
Thank you for this ...Deep
Appreciate Dr. Bergsma’s many splendid videos, sharing of his renowned education and defense of the Scriptural basis of Catholic faith and teachings. HOWEVER the defense of non-dogmatic Vatican II, after which religious vocations, belief in real presence, mass attendance, baptisms, confirmations and more are ALL down 75% + on average, suggests the fruits of this hippy council are ALL ROTTEN! What have we gained???
But God’s word does not need change Francis is not helping our church he is hindering it.
Dr Bergsma great effort to dump down those standing up for the truth. Just one question - what is pope Francis' take on Gay Civil Unions? Some of those living together without marriage are better than married couples? Or who am I to judge those living in same sex relationships? Should I go on? Have the priests permitting same sex marriages in Germany been ex-communicated? What about those bowing down to Pachamana in the Vatican grounds? Or welcoming such an idol into St Peter's Basilica by pope Francis himself? And adulterers to be admitted to Holy Communion? Once again how much can you cover up Sin? God is merciful, He also is a Just God. Anybody who abets Sin is part of it.
No. Vatican did not make sin more acceptable the other nations all did which was enabling the wolves who were already among us too. Wolves for example who like to interrupt the work flow of others often while accusing them of being slothful and unintelligent in comparison while competing for rights to be guardian to the same woman or whatever.
I love how you say Pope Francis is misunderstood. Was he misunderstood when he brought ain the pagan idol pachamama to be worshipped in the house of God, how there are no consequences for the church in Germany while they bless sin, was he misunderstood when he abandoned the Catholic church and faithful in China. What about when he honored in the Vatican the number one Italian abortionist calling her a great friend. The list goes on, amoris making it ok to receive the body of Christ for divorced and remarried. Every divorce I know that now lives in civil union with others receive communion because they say it's ok now.
Yes Ema Benini, Berny Sanders, Cathy Perry, Evo Morales and other enemies of the Church were some of his " Holiness" invited guests. Bergoglio, dime con quien andas y te dire quien eres. Tu plan de desconstruir la Iglesia va mu bien.
Locusts? Great
With or without honey, John is going to eat us
Answer- yes.
My mother grew up in different Catholic ethics no doubt. I could write a book on how mislead I have been by the novus.
Yes. If new Masses are bad, then let’s go all the way back. Let’s go back to order of Mass from the Didache. It’s the oldest liturgy we have and it was in Greek. Why did the innovators need to change it? The Holy Gospels were written in Greek. So was the rest of the New Testament. But Augustine couldn’t even speak it fluently. Why did they cast behind the traditions of their ancestors by changing the order of the liturgy and changing its language from Greek to Latin, especially with a liturgy that was ostensibly handed down from the Apostles?
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??? I gotcha on VII, but Francis saying we should be holy. You lost me
You have not read Pope Francis teaching documents. Yes, the Pope said you should be holy. Read Evangellium Guadium. Read CNA news of what Pope Francis says. You need to read everything the Pope writes or say and not a few controversial thoughts
Yes, the Vatican make sin more acceptable and because of that and according to what is written in the Word of God, catholicism is considered a false christianity.
«Beloved, although I was making every effort to write to you about our common salvation,[b] I now feel a need to write to encourage you to contend for the faith that was once for all handed down to the holy ones. For there have been some intruders, who long ago were designated for this condemnation, godless persons, who pervert the grace of our God into licentiousness and who deny our only Master and Lord, Jesus Christ.» (Jude 3-4 NABRE)
You're not addressing the second Vatican Council, but the Catholic Church itself, here.
And your quote is ambiguous because the Catholic Faith *is* the Faith that was handed down to and continues to be handed down by the Church.
@@tony1685 well, you know, prove it.
Remind me when you think the Church apostasized.
What was the Faith Jude is referring to?
Also, in vs 8 he mentions the intruders as rejecting authority: where is there an authority structure to reject?
@@tony1685 the Church (inspired by the Holy Spirit) wrote the Bible; only it has the final authority to interpret.