The no slow in gas killed Caustic, along with the addition of enemy highlights and health bars, letting enemy players see better through your gas, which makes his passive useless.
His passive became outdated as soon as Cat released. Why? Because Cat could make plays with her and enemy cat walls and get a brand new passive. Caustic can see thru his gas and it get labeled as his passive.
The day has finally come. I never thought I would see Rampart so high up. I've been a Rampart main for 3 years now and at first it was because I loved LMGs but after maining her you see how strong her ult is, with enough firepower to whipe squads. Many people complain when I pick her in Ranked while others go nuts when they see my banner. I do also go nuts when I see a good one, it's not an easy legend to use, but once you understand how to play her aggressive, you don't feel the same with any other legend
@@TheLastBanana4u2nv I started on season 8 and didn't pick her up until the end of 9. I loved her passive but the rest of the kit was underwhelming as you say. Once they made SHEILA portable, it all went better from there.
I’ve been playing since launch and no other legend gives me the same feeling as ramp. She’s complex and simple at the same time and when used right her kit becomes extremely rewarding to you.
Idea to buff alters ultimate: instead of looking at the ult, holding a button for 0.5 seconds, waiting an aditional 3 seconds WHILE YOU CANNOT HOLD YOUR SHIELD, the devs should change the ult bind to the alternate legend ability, and can be activated whilst simultaniously holding up your knockdown shield, FROM WHEREVER YOUR LOOKING. how does this sound?
Totally agree with most legends on this list but I really think u should give Ash another chance. Ever since her q is left handed and her ult goes further shes really smooth to play. In ranked especially with a Pathfinder and maybe a loba in your team u just need to crack one and ur whole team can push different angles in no time. In this meta a quick push or a quick get out is most important and thats what she provides once every gunfight with this very low ult cool down. Also her snares make even movement legends not get out so fast. So in the current meta i would totally put her in A tier.
I completely disagree, she’s a solid b. She does nothing really well, just ok. Your get out of free jail card could be a whole squad wipe on your team. Her snares are good, if you connect and don’t get beamed throwing them. Her strongest part is her recon and that’s where she makes b tier.
@@yelsew91 wdym can be a squad wipe? And how do you get beamed throwing your snares? Sounds more like a skill issue for me rather than a character issue. And putting her in B Tier even though you are not able to fully utilize her kit, is kinda like agreeing to me. Like fr, I've been playing her a lot recently and I do not relate with the situations u describe at all.
@@KetboySlim lol it’s always a skill issue. I mean if that was the case then every legend would be S TIER because every legend can be OP in the right hands. It comes down to kit, her snares though are decent, but most of the time I fight an ash and get snared, I end up beaming the ash because theirs this false sense “oh I caught them” let me fight him. Additionally if you’re going to snare at range, your only option for gun play is free aim, which highly effective, not ideal at range. Her ult, can be good in situations, but I have also found myself getting a free push on team running away and wiping the squad. I’m not saying ash is bad, I think these tier list are to grade legends based on kits. If you look valk, pathfinder, octane,rev are all better at getting away or pushing. Smokes or knuckles are better than snares. Idk what tier lobbies you play, but the higher ranks and the smaller ring size, holding spots matters more and I don’t feel the snares are really that great. Obviously the TH-camr and many other pro players feel the same.
@@yelsew91 i think u get me wrong, im not saying "if u play her good she is good".. But what u described sounded like u dont fully utilize her kit. Now again one point of urs is that other ashes are stupid after snaring. So lets suppose everyone is the smartest player on earth and know how to utilize every character to the max, then I would think, ash (her kit!!) might be somewhat better than Mr. MangosInTrees claims her to be.
Alter actually plays REALLY well in mixtape, especially control. In BR its almost never useful to return to a location you have already been to in the middle of a fight, so her ult has a lot less utility because if you play well you shouldn't need it. But in control you can drop it on the enemies spawn zone and take it there when you die for an easy capture that a lot of people won't expect. Her tac is also more suited to the fast pace combat in mixtape that emphasizes ducking and weaving and transitioning quickly from one fight to the next in ways that BR doesn't.
As an octane main, it upsets me how people make us octanes look 😭. I feel like octane could be a good bit higher for the people that know how to use octane the way he is supposed to.
I’ve tried to main alter, she’s fun to me, but her tac & ult can use some tweaks, I think a slight 10 meter buff for her tac would just make her more fluid, if not a buff, than changing her tac to work more like ash port (it locks on to where you look) and doesn’t give you the annoying “out of range” that’s why she gets annoying because you have to literally stop moving aim all over the place for decent placement, and her ult needs to be a get out of jail card… because that’s what it is meant to be, it’s not fun to full reset to safety and can ruin tempo of a fight. But it would be one of the best ability to reset a team to full, on the flip side, you cannot apply pressure to the enemy team at all, and they will most likely full reset as well
Here is a video idea but why don’t you talk about what you would change with every legend. Like buffs/nerfs and possibly reworks. I’d definitely watch that
Maybe you have done this video already disregard if so. But would love a video that goes through which upgrade to pick and why for each legend. Thank you!
None of the support legends can get away like loba just like you said.. loba can get you height loba is the only movement legend that can escape through buildings easily u can loba ring through a window u can loba is the only legend with good verticle movement loba is honestly pretty broken right now
Alters tactical is pretty good in escaping enemies or bypassing wattson fence and catalyst reinforce. Even kidnapping enemies above you or baiting them. Ult is for getting in or out of the fight. Pretty useful
Imagine that. Alter came out. Everyone screamed she was broken. I said nah she's alright but it'll go away. It's not that crazy. What do you know, alters aren't running around everywhere anymore and she's C tier
Here is a suggestion for you that I havent seen for apex legends content is. How about you do a meta composition based on map and do a tier list. That would be interesting to do
Ash is beyond underrated in almost every way. Her snare is so insanely good. Especially with the big snare upgrade. Snaring multiple people stopping them in there tracks is a crazy ability in a game where movement is so key. Giver her a gold helmet and she can spam snares into buildings or around corners. Easy damage. Team running in open space? Snare one and you turned a 3v3 into a 2v2. Portal then you win the fight. Speaking of her portal. It's super good on e district. You trapped in a building late game? Guess what? You can portal to another building without setting a foot outside. Easy rotate. Her passive is also very nice knowing where people are. Late game this helps a lot of people are taking buildings. Ash is GOOD.
@@odysseusdadon1234 100% I am yes lol She's seriously overtuned if you know what you're doing with her and I don't want her to catch a nerf because I'm having way too much fun this season
@@pjpantsfire I gate keep wattsy too lol and hated a few seasons ago when she was rated S tier and people were picking her before me alot. Can't agree about rampart though,i eat ramparts for breakfast. Only about 1 percent of ramparts know what they're doing and the rest just spam sheila.
@@shalindelta7 yeah, most people who play rampart are pretty bad with rampart. She is hard to use especially with controller, however she is a deamon in an open space.
@@YankoXI yeah but he’s specifically a 1v1 legend like mirage. If you position correctly and take the right fights, you will dominate ranked. He definitely requires teamwork.
In a few of your videos you mention how people will defend their mains. I’ve been a Mirage main since day one and I know he’s horrible however right now he has got to be the worst a character has ever been compared to the others
You’re 100% right about the ash pick rate being due to hiswattson, he could play any champ and make them look op and players would start playing them 😂
As a Diamond - master player i strongly disagree on SEER … if seer is D tier so does bloodhound is TOO … blood have a meh scan good for rat but very short even with upgrade and blood ult with scan vision on all scan legend is garbage just a speed boost …
I feel like power creep has affected wraith enough that they can just give her the old tactical start up animation but keep the speed and time in phase of her new tactical
Pick rates mean nothing people pick things they prefer Maggie was amazing for such a long time but still only had a 2% pick rate for the longest time yet she easily can turn a 600-1k game into 3-4k games
Why does everyone consider Loba's tactical only as escape tool? Sure, there's a delay before weapons become useable, but you shouldn't jump right on top of the enemy with Revenant q either.
no the skill ceiling is too low i miss when characters that had a rlly high skill ceiling were the meta bc not just anyone could get free damage and kills like with fuse and rampart or get free placement like crypto so maybe the game is balanced but the skill ceiling is so low also mozams are boken asl
@@smooth.mp5 in high ranks plat onwards, there is low skill ceilling, just cheats: soft aimbot or aimbot or wall hacks, team plays are just 3 against 3 cheaters with 0 skill, usually cheaters winning, in low ranks teamplay is often seen, due to cheats most are stuck in plat 4 and the ones stuck in gold 4 are there due to the fun it brings in those ranks, higher ranks are a joke if you see teams playing there
what we see in high rank is: octane (most stupid player who dies with 0 damage or 50 damage), crypto (dies with 0 damage and rat till the end) wraith (like octane but with more brain), newcastle, lifeline , pathfinder, mad maggie and revenat are the most common, you wont see support legends in most matches, you wont have good teammates neither and if you are lucky you will kill another squad without cheats, gold is where all fun ends, from plat 2 onwards you will see cheaters most games, thats why no one wants to be plat
Pick rate is not a good criteria for rating character in a tier list. Ballistic is way too low on this list. You should actually play him next time he is probably the best 1 v 1 or 2 v 1 character in the game other than maybe rev.
@@d1namishe's underrated not really a good thing I would've put him in C Tier there are better Legends out there he needs a huge buff of his tactical.his takes where he makes tier list are good and kinda bad
I think alter needs just a couple of buffs to become S tier. I feel like if she had a lot more range to her portal it would be much more useful but its range is way too limited.
Mango do u think Bloodhound gets nerfed in the next couple of seasions cause i want to main him but i just dont want that one of my favo legends gets nerfed that i hate it when smth like this happens
Pathfinder needs a proper passive, more of his ult is just not a passive and is just not as interesting. At least Wattson has the shield regen aspect to her passive.
the problem with mirage is that his kit is fundamentally weak, just like it was in titanfall. the issue is that it mostly relies on the enemy fucking up rather than you using it right (atleast moreso than other legends) the other issue is that no matter how much they buff him, he'll still be weak, but just more obnoxious to play against (i would absolutely remove mirage if i had to pick a legend to remove, cant fuckin stand vsing that thing. actually nvm rampart exists.) the exact opposite is true of revenant. he is fundamentally ridiculous so if they keep nerfing him he'll always have some level of strength.
Bro i think mirage should get a different ultimate, It would be cool if he spawned like sentinel bots to fight for you as a ultimate or something he can keep his tactical but rework it to where the decoy is better at replicating mirage
Game have been here for long and bad people leave but good player can’t leave because too addicted of apex plus theyre are cheater so yea i know its not right to sah it bu GET GOOD and its not personnal juste the state of the game its can’t be enjoyed at a noob/casual level or maybe only play LTM . 😅
Not so much after the nerfs she had. Especially that one nerf that stops healing for 2 seconds after getting damaged, instead of 1 second. That one hits hard and reduces the overall healing she provides. Add to this long cooldown on her Q She is still great, I use her all the time in ranked with my team. But she could use some minor buffs now that Revenant isn’t so cracked as before and doesn’t pair with Conduit. Maybe reduce cooldown by 5 seconds? Add better perks to her.
is not as close, since the nerfs is not really useful, i main her and she feels so different from what she was on release, if you know how to use her ult, it can deal tons of damage and be used as rotation on other teams or hold for other teams in certain situations, beside that she can carry 3 big batteries per slot, if you dont have aggressive teams she is useless and you need double shields in her perk to get the most out of her kit, the good thing is she is like wraith and no one can kill her easily sadly not all teams like an aggressive style of playing and with extremely aggressive or passive players she doesnt work
The thing about rampart is.. she’s a really great character, but her kit requires so much skill to actually be good at playing with her, the timing in which you have to place her shields down and know when and when not to use shiela is a huge learning curve that you won’t just pick up overnight.. 😂so just because of that, she’s gonna always be slept on , only the people who got her timing down actually understand how dangerous she is
Confused why Lifelines pick rate is so high and other content creators rating her higher is going to lead to a rework. So many other legends need a rework more than her.
her is the best to restart matches with newcastle, beside that hitbox is not that huge, if you escape you can self res and escape, with gold shield you have a good player, newcastle is the same, nerf next season for both
I definitely disagree with at least half this tier list. For one. Fuse def A tier and up. His tac has got to be the most powerful in the game. It absolutely melts people.
all wraith needs is the insta q, please bruh, her q is utterly useless right now, u take 100 dmg if not downed (50/50) after u press q, and then u run away, and yeah
I disagree on Mirage, he is kinda A - tier in good hands and C - tier in bad. He have - Super-Hyperglide with Speed boot on his ultimate, very good mobility and general movement speed. He can create a lot of sound clutter with his Q and Ultimate, masking res or play. He can gain temporarily invisibility with E on downed, also he have Boosted-Wall jump and Support passives. Health bar definitely gives you away - but before that update you had to watch animation and movement to find real one, now most people just waste bullets to trigger health bar, if you prepared for that and use your speed boos properly - they just waste bullets and you can turn back on them on reload or miss position. He is not as bad as Ballistic - that just don't have any utility or offensive skills.
@@KaitDiaz47 because Respawn made questionable choices with weapon balance, all weapons in game was nerfed to the ground, so now pretty much every weapon in game is quite weak, difference with no attachments and t4 gun is tiny. That why i don't even count Ballistic as legend that even have a Ultimate. He just a champion that don't have Q and Ultimate. He actually have scenarios when he can be kinda good, but it's incomparable with Crypto that can pick up banners and rez with disposable drone on short cooldown. I practiced duels with 0 attachment's it's supper manageable, advantage with attachment's is so tiny, that even a smallest mistake in a duel absolutely void all of the advantages. Respawn really need to make him more simple and straight forward in term of how does he work, right now he need too much of a setup, when most legends dont even think about that.
Not as important in “low ranks” I’m good 3 and it’s just preds and masters low ranks is the same as higher ones now iv played in Amsterdam servers for a while thought it might be because of that changes to London same if not worse can only play pubs sadly now its a shame
Vantage main here🫡 But it’s weird to see her whole kit being highlighted here. Her passive give gives the most information out of any recons. High mobility and verticality. And the best sniper in the game with team utility.
New castle is not that high by any means yes he is good but only like 1% of new castle are actually good with him . Can’t put him that high because of some pros and cracked players
actually is really good with gold perks is like gib when you master him, he is not easy to master, you can push other teams and make cover, you can res behind doors without being able to get through the ult can get you angles, all of this with a shotgun he is the best to push and restart matches
17:49 no the reason why horizon's pickrate is so high is because people have spent hundreds on her heirlooms and her skins can we stop acting like she is still good because the only positive thing about her is her movement and when that is the case she's not much better than octane however at least octane's pad is actually useful cuz most cases horizon's isn't and this is coming from someone who plays EVERY SINGLE LEGEND
@@MangosInTrees good idea, you should do that instead. Kinda combines the ranking of maps as well since better maps would generally have more POIS on top. If you do make that video, please try and give a visual of the POI for clarity. Good luck.
The no slow in gas killed Caustic, along with the addition of enemy highlights and health bars, letting enemy players see better through your gas, which makes his passive useless.
His passive became outdated as soon as Cat released. Why? Because Cat could make plays with her and enemy cat walls and get a brand new passive. Caustic can see thru his gas and it get labeled as his passive.
@@mzmc3020caustic has never gotten any love smh
@@mzmc3020 that's true. i would love a rework to his passive, make it something completely different.
@@jordanj2409play siege if you wanna rat in a building with traps
IM STILL MAD ABOUT THE GAS NOT CONSTANTLY SLOWING! It's all the pros and streamers complaining they can't rush every player 💀
The day has finally come. I never thought I would see Rampart so high up. I've been a Rampart main for 3 years now and at first it was because I loved LMGs but after maining her you see how strong her ult is, with enough firepower to whipe squads.
Many people complain when I pick her in Ranked while others go nuts when they see my banner. I do also go nuts when I see a good one, it's not an easy legend to use, but once you understand how to play her aggressive, you don't feel the same with any other legend
Bro same. I played apex when she first came out and felt she was underwhelming but after coming back 2 years later and playing her she’s so broken
@@TheLastBanana4u2nv I started on season 8 and didn't pick her up until the end of 9. I loved her passive but the rest of the kit was underwhelming as you say. Once they made SHEILA portable, it all went better from there.
I’ve been playing since launch and no other legend gives me the same feeling as ramp. She’s complex and simple at the same time and when used right her kit becomes extremely rewarding to you.
@@mikelgaleantryna play? Not ranked
Idea to buff alters ultimate: instead of looking at the ult, holding a button for 0.5 seconds, waiting an aditional 3 seconds WHILE YOU CANNOT HOLD YOUR SHIELD, the devs should change the ult bind to the alternate legend ability, and can be activated whilst simultaniously holding up your knockdown shield, FROM WHEREVER YOUR LOOKING.
how does this sound?
Totally agree with most legends on this list but I really think u should give Ash another chance. Ever since her q is left handed and her ult goes further shes really smooth to play. In ranked especially with a Pathfinder and maybe a loba in your team u just need to crack one and ur whole team can push different angles in no time. In this meta a quick push or a quick get out is most important and thats what she provides once every gunfight with this very low ult cool down.
Also her snares make even movement legends not get out so fast. So in the current meta i would totally put her in A tier.
I completely disagree, she’s a solid b. She does nothing really well, just ok. Your get out of free jail card could be a whole squad wipe on your team. Her snares are good, if you connect and don’t get beamed throwing them. Her strongest part is her recon and that’s where she makes b tier.
@@yelsew91 wdym can be a squad wipe? And how do you get beamed throwing your snares? Sounds more like a skill issue for me rather than a character issue. And putting her in B Tier even though you are not able to fully utilize her kit, is kinda like agreeing to me.
Like fr, I've been playing her a lot recently and I do not relate with the situations u describe at all.
I think her ult has a bit too long of a cooldown, if she had a blue level perk that reduced it a bit i would agree.
@@KetboySlim lol it’s always a skill issue. I mean if that was the case then every legend would be S TIER because every legend can be OP in the right hands. It comes down to kit, her snares though are decent, but most of the time I fight an ash and get snared, I end up beaming the ash because theirs this false sense “oh I caught them” let me fight him. Additionally if you’re going to snare at range, your only option for gun play is free aim, which highly effective, not ideal at range. Her ult, can be good in situations, but I have also found myself getting a free push on team running away and wiping the squad. I’m not saying ash is bad, I think these tier list are to grade legends based on kits. If you look valk, pathfinder, octane,rev are all better at getting away or pushing. Smokes or knuckles are better than snares. Idk what tier lobbies you play, but the higher ranks and the smaller ring size, holding spots matters more and I don’t feel the snares are really that great. Obviously the TH-camr and many other pro players feel the same.
@@yelsew91 i think u get me wrong, im not saying "if u play her good she is good".. But what u described sounded like u dont fully utilize her kit. Now again one point of urs is that other ashes are stupid after snaring. So lets suppose everyone is the smartest player on earth and know how to utilize every character to the max, then I would think, ash (her kit!!) might be somewhat better than Mr. MangosInTrees claims her to be.
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Alter actually plays REALLY well in mixtape, especially control. In BR its almost never useful to return to a location you have already been to in the middle of a fight, so her ult has a lot less utility because if you play well you shouldn't need it. But in control you can drop it on the enemies spawn zone and take it there when you die for an easy capture that a lot of people won't expect. Her tac is also more suited to the fast pace combat in mixtape that emphasizes ducking and weaving and transitioning quickly from one fight to the next in ways that BR doesn't.
her ult is more useful in broken moon due to changes in height, other maps lack that, king canyon also is useful, other maps is shit tbh
The worst thing in this game is when your teammate gets knocked and you hear a path q and rev q activated 😭
let me guess that teammate was an octane main lol
lol
As an octane main, it upsets me how people make us octanes look 😭. I feel like octane could be a good bit higher for the people that know how to use octane the way he is supposed to.
I’ve tried to main alter, she’s fun to me, but her tac & ult can use some tweaks, I think a slight 10 meter buff for her tac would just make her more fluid, if not a buff, than changing her tac to work more like ash port (it locks on to where you look) and doesn’t give you the annoying “out of range” that’s why she gets annoying because you have to literally stop moving aim all over the place for decent placement, and her ult needs to be a get out of jail card… because that’s what it is meant to be, it’s not fun to full reset to safety and can ruin tempo of a fight. But it would be one of the best ability to reset a team to full, on the flip side, you cannot apply pressure to the enemy team at all, and they will most likely full reset as well
Here is a video idea but why don’t you talk about what you would change with every legend. Like buffs/nerfs and possibly reworks. I’d definitely watch that
Maybe you have done this video already disregard if so. But would love a video that goes through which upgrade to pick and why for each legend. Thank you!
None of the support legends can get away like loba just like you said.. loba can get you height loba is the only movement legend that can escape through buildings easily u can loba ring through a window u can loba is the only legend with good verticle movement loba is honestly pretty broken right now
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S: Valkyrie (25:15) , Newcastle (26:35) , Pathfinder (27:35)
A: Lifeline (15:12) , Bloodhound (16:21) , Horizon (17:12) , Vantage (17:54) , Bangalore (18:30) , Loba (19:17) , Rampart (20:44) , Crypto (21:40) , Mad Maggie (22:55) , Revenant (24:21)
B: Fuse (9:16) , Gibraltar (10:49) , Wattson (11:38) , Catalyst (13:18) , Conduit (14:07)
C: Ash (4:15) , Wraith (5:07) , Alter (6:54) , Octane (8:00)
D: Seer (2:17) , Ballistic (3:18)
BUFF: Caustic (0:19) , Mirage (1:38)
Thank you Mango
Very glad indeed!
Mf said spoilers for a tier list 😭
Let's run it back soon my dude, was so fun playing with you and cap
Alters tactical is pretty good in escaping enemies or bypassing wattson fence and catalyst reinforce. Even kidnapping enemies above you or baiting them. Ult is for getting in or out of the fight. Pretty useful
Imagine that. Alter came out. Everyone screamed she was broken. I said nah she's alright but it'll go away. It's not that crazy. What do you know, alters aren't running around everywhere anymore and she's C tier
Here is a suggestion for you that I havent seen for apex legends content is. How about you do a meta composition based on map and do a tier list. That would be interesting to do
Ash is beyond underrated in almost every way.
Her snare is so insanely good. Especially with the big snare upgrade. Snaring multiple people stopping them in there tracks is a crazy ability in a game where movement is so key. Giver her a gold helmet and she can spam snares into buildings or around corners. Easy damage. Team running in open space? Snare one and you turned a 3v3 into a 2v2. Portal then you win the fight.
Speaking of her portal. It's super good on e district. You trapped in a building late game? Guess what? You can portal to another building without setting a foot outside. Easy rotate.
Her passive is also very nice knowing where people are. Late game this helps a lot of people are taking buildings.
Ash is GOOD.
Solid analyses! Please stop telling people how good Rampart is tho
You tryna gate keep?
@@odysseusdadon1234 100% I am yes lol She's seriously overtuned if you know what you're doing with her and I don't want her to catch a nerf because I'm having way too much fun this season
@@pjpantsfire I gate keep wattsy too lol and hated a few seasons ago when she was rated S tier and people were picking her before me alot.
Can't agree about rampart though,i eat ramparts for breakfast. Only about 1 percent of ramparts know what they're doing and the rest just spam sheila.
@@shalindelta7 yeah, most people who play rampart are pretty bad with rampart. She is hard to use especially with controller, however she is a deamon in an open space.
Agreed!!
Alter can see death boxes(ash), steal items (loba), accurate teleport (ash), help teammates through walls/ ceilings when down… deep bag
Regarding Alter: Void Nexus should be programmed to heal or grenades when you are downed. Those mappings aren't viable in that state.
Ballistic stomps if you play him right.
so does every other legend 🤷
And stomped if you play other legend right.
Ballistics ass
He’s underrated
@@YankoXI yeah but he’s specifically a 1v1 legend like mirage. If you position correctly and take the right fights, you will dominate ranked. He definitely requires teamwork.
In a few of your videos you mention how people will defend their mains. I’ve been a Mirage main since day one and I know he’s horrible however right now he has got to be the worst a character has ever been compared to the others
Yeah i feel bad for mirage mains i used to be on the same boat as you but with revenant 😭
Agree. Health bars have been huge nerf to mirage..and he was already super weak.
The health bars absolutely ruined him
@@iownstaticz8687revenant was never as bad as people said
You’re 100% right about the ash pick rate being due to hiswattson, he could play any champ and make them look op and players would start playing them 😂
As a Diamond - master player i strongly disagree on SEER … if seer is D tier so does bloodhound is TOO … blood have a meh scan good for rat but very short even with upgrade and blood ult with scan vision on all scan legend is garbage just a speed boost …
I feel like power creep has affected wraith enough that they can just give her the old tactical start up animation but keep the speed and time in phase of her new tactical
Pick rates mean nothing people pick things they prefer Maggie was amazing for such a long time but still only had a 2% pick rate for the longest time yet she easily can turn a 600-1k game into 3-4k games
14:51 amping himself to heal 5 shields, while teammate is fully cracked
- Conduit B tier
Say no more...
Why does everyone consider Loba's tactical only as escape tool? Sure, there's a delay before weapons become useable, but you shouldn't jump right on top of the enemy with Revenant q either.
They could buff alter by giving enemies less time to use her tac. It would be good at the beginning or end of the Q
18:45 I will keep talking about how strange it is that in the beginning they consider her to be the a good example of balance legend only to nerf her
Tldr, the game is actually well balanced right now
Not with double Mozambiques, super fun to use but ruins everything, especially against a 3stack double Mozambique team
no the skill ceiling is too low i miss when characters that had a rlly high skill ceiling were the meta bc not just anyone could get free damage and kills like with fuse and rampart or get free placement like crypto so maybe the game is balanced but the skill ceiling is so low also mozams are boken asl
@@smooth.mp5 in high ranks plat onwards, there is low skill ceilling, just cheats: soft aimbot or aimbot or wall hacks, team plays are just 3 against 3 cheaters with 0 skill, usually cheaters winning, in low ranks teamplay is often seen, due to cheats most are stuck in plat 4 and the ones stuck in gold 4 are there due to the fun it brings in those ranks, higher ranks are a joke if you see teams playing there
@@raufmeister i dont heat and im not stuck in p4 no offense but that might be a skill issue
@@raufmeister but the skill ceiling is way too low
Conduit and ash in C is literally criminal
Ash S tier
what we see in high rank is: octane (most stupid player who dies with 0 damage or 50 damage), crypto (dies with 0 damage and rat till the end) wraith (like octane but with more brain), newcastle, lifeline , pathfinder, mad maggie and revenat are the most common, you wont see support legends in most matches, you wont have good teammates neither and if you are lucky you will kill another squad without cheats, gold is where all fun ends, from plat 2 onwards you will see cheaters most games, thats why no one wants to be plat
3:22 this is unfair, Ballistic is really good
Pick rate is not a good criteria for rating character in a tier list. Ballistic is way too low on this list. You should actually play him next time he is probably the best 1 v 1 or 2 v 1 character in the game other than maybe rev.
Are you drunk?
I’m with you man ballistic is slept on and I think his ult can really swing team fights
@@d1namishe's underrated not really a good thing I would've put him in C Tier there are better Legends out there he needs a huge buff of his tactical.his takes where he makes tier list are good and kinda bad
He also broke down why he rated him that low, aside from pickrate...sooo..
horizon best clutch character what
I have always thought that caustic was more powerful in season zero than any other season since they started messing with his kit
I think alter needs just a couple of buffs to become S tier. I feel like if she had a lot more range to her portal it would be much more useful but its range is way too limited.
Mango do u think Bloodhound gets nerfed in the next couple of seasions cause i want to main him but i just dont want that one of my favo legends gets nerfed that i hate it when smth like this happens
I miss playing this game
At this point it’s like a toxic relationship, it’s either good and you’re stomping or terrible and you’re getting stomped
I’m redownloading when season 24 drops. I’m a master player btw
Then play it lmao
Literally who asked what your rank was bruh 😭😭😭@@xandersanchez1365
@@E2GtubeEA killed it
Ash could be good, if she got 2 arc snears at blue shield and 2 Teleports at purple
Omg I didn’t know it was season 22 I stopped playing for a while when the shield guy came out reminds me of castle from six siege don’t know his name
Mirage ultimate is useless now. The health bar killed anything about him being good.
Pathfinder needs a proper passive, more of his ult is just not a passive and is just not as interesting. At least Wattson has the shield regen aspect to her passive.
I'd argue that Octane is made for pubs and should stay in pubs
Aka no buffs or anything, it's perfect as it is
the problem with mirage is that his kit is fundamentally weak, just like it was in titanfall.
the issue is that it mostly relies on the enemy fucking up rather than you using it right (atleast moreso than other legends)
the other issue is that no matter how much they buff him, he'll still be weak, but just more obnoxious to play against (i would absolutely remove mirage if i had to pick a legend to remove, cant fuckin stand vsing that thing. actually nvm rampart exists.)
the exact opposite is true of revenant. he is fundamentally ridiculous so if they keep nerfing him he'll always have some level of strength.
Bro i think mirage should get a different ultimate, It would be cool if he spawned like sentinel bots to fight for you as a ultimate or something he can keep his tactical but rework it to where the decoy is better at replicating mirage
I heard they are nerfing Crypto next season. Taking away the invisibility. And Mozams are getting nerfed too
Both me and my teamate got two tapped by a vantage in ranked felt so unfair 😂
As someone who only mains Watson I can say that if you get good at Watson then she's a tier
Can say that about any character
Ash has a cool design, but you're almost always better off using Maggie or revenant
ASH OP AF
Bro been playing for a month
Im glad mirage is at the bottom so they dont nerf him the absolute beast of a character
Caustic needs a buff, and lifeline and Newcastle still desperately need a nerf
The radius to trip Caustic's gas canisters is too small. The survey beacons do not seem to be very accurate, I only use them for Evo.
Got an heirloom while watching, Thank you Mango😊
70k kill mirage here.. my time will come 🧘🏽♀️
Whats going on with MMR im silver 4 consistently dying in ranked against Diamond players with pred badges and rookie 4 with 3 pred badges
Game have been here for long and bad people leave but good player can’t leave because too addicted of apex plus theyre are cheater so yea i know its not right to sah it bu GET GOOD and its not personnal juste the state of the game its can’t be enjoyed at a noob/casual level or maybe only play LTM . 😅
Conduit is S tier I swear
Not so much after the nerfs she had. Especially that one nerf that stops healing for 2 seconds after getting damaged, instead of 1 second.
That one hits hard and reduces the overall healing she provides.
Add to this long cooldown on her Q
She is still great, I use her all the time in ranked with my team. But she could use some minor buffs now that Revenant isn’t so cracked as before and doesn’t pair with Conduit.
Maybe reduce cooldown by 5 seconds? Add better perks to her.
is not as close, since the nerfs is not really useful, i main her and she feels so different from what she was on release, if you know how to use her ult, it can deal tons of damage and be used as rotation on other teams or hold for other teams in certain situations, beside that she can carry 3 big batteries per slot, if you dont have aggressive teams she is useless and you need double shields in her perk to get the most out of her kit, the good thing is she is like wraith and no one can kill her easily sadly not all teams like an aggressive style of playing and with extremely aggressive or passive players she doesnt work
Idk about S but definitely A. Putting her in B is disrespectful. She can turn the tide or any fight.
Everyone needs to remember that this tier list is HIS own personal opinions about how HE feels about the legends.
whats the names of all the chill background music in all your videos?
Should be a Niche S Tier section
As a Rampart with 12k kills all I can say is Her day will come
Bro I was playing knockout and son.... Her time is now, THE AMOUNT OF RAMPARTS
The thing about rampart is.. she’s a really great character, but her kit requires so much skill to actually be good at playing with her, the timing in which you have to place her shields down and know when and when not to use shiela is a huge learning curve that you won’t just pick up overnight.. 😂so just because of that, she’s gonna always be slept on , only the people who got her timing down actually understand how dangerous she is
I would've put Ballistic in C Tier you always underrate him based on pick rate that's not good. But make his Tactical go back to the way he was
Confused why Lifelines pick rate is so high and other content creators rating her higher is going to lead to a rework. So many other legends need a rework more than her.
her is the best to restart matches with newcastle, beside that hitbox is not that huge, if you escape you can self res and escape, with gold shield you have a good player, newcastle is the same, nerf next season for both
I definitely disagree with at least half this tier list. For one. Fuse def A tier and up. His tac has got to be the most powerful in the game. It absolutely melts people.
Tik tok on the last seconds of our fallback
The only mirage meta was during like the early seasons
its really hard for us mirage mains
Im Ballistic Main and me fuck this up that everyone underrate him
Does anyone know what's the background music he plays?
Valkyrie needs to be buffed or d tier ✋
all wraith needs is the insta q, please bruh, her q is utterly useless right now, u take 100 dmg if not downed (50/50) after u press q, and then u run away, and yeah
Bro has beef with pathfinder
he put him in S tier...
List makes sense besides Alter… A tier.
I disagree on Mirage, he is kinda A - tier in good hands and C - tier in bad. He have - Super-Hyperglide with Speed boot on his ultimate, very good mobility and general movement speed. He can create a lot of sound clutter with his Q and Ultimate, masking res or play. He can gain temporarily invisibility with E on downed, also he have Boosted-Wall jump and Support passives. Health bar definitely gives you away - but before that update you had to watch animation and movement to find real one, now most people just waste bullets to trigger health bar, if you prepared for that and use your speed boos properly - they just waste bullets and you can turn back on them on reload or miss position. He is not as bad as Ballistic - that just don't have any utility or offensive skills.
@@d1namis yes ballistic does have offensive utility with ult you don't know how to activate it. But he does need a buff I can slightly agree.
@@KaitDiaz47 because Respawn made questionable choices with weapon balance, all weapons in game was nerfed to the ground, so now pretty much every weapon in game is quite weak, difference with no attachments and t4 gun is tiny. That why i don't even count Ballistic as legend that even have a Ultimate. He just a champion that don't have Q and Ultimate. He actually have scenarios when he can be kinda good, but it's incomparable with Crypto that can pick up banners and rez with disposable drone on short cooldown. I practiced duels with 0 attachment's it's supper manageable, advantage with attachment's is so tiny, that even a smallest mistake in a duel absolutely void all of the advantages. Respawn really need to make him more simple and straight forward in term of how does he work, right now he need too much of a setup, when most legends dont even think about that.
@@d1namis also I'm sorry if I called you stupid that was out of me
mirage useless above plat ngl
Bang is still S tier tbh . She is ran in every comp and ranked. And the perfect character for anyone who solo ques
PATHFINDER SHOULD DELETE FROM THE GAME BEC SUPER ANNOYING AND OP LEGEND
Seer needs a complete rework
Not as important in “low ranks” I’m good 3 and it’s just preds and masters low ranks is the same as higher ones now iv played in Amsterdam servers for a while thought it might be because of that changes to London same if not worse can only play pubs sadly now its a shame
nah bro did Alter dirty
she deserves higher like B or A
caustic used to be one scary mf back in the day
Vantage main here🫡
But it’s weird to see her whole kit being highlighted here. Her passive give gives the most information out of any recons. High mobility and verticality. And the best sniper in the game with team utility.
Has anyone ever said you sound like mirage 💀
On gawd
Both my mains in C tier 🥲
I think pathfinder is the most balanced movement legend
Reported for terrorism.
New castle is not that high by any means yes he is good but only like 1% of new castle are actually good with him . Can’t put him that high because of some pros and cracked players
actually is really good with gold perks is like gib when you master him, he is not easy to master, you can push other teams and make cover, you can res behind doors without being able to get through the ult can get you angles, all of this with a shotgun he is the best to push and restart matches
Newcastle needs a buff he is absolutely the worst character in the game no doubt cant change my mind
How is this decided please ?
Did you even watch the video?
@@gsx9 no.
@@joewebb1092 😂🤦♂
Why can’t I ask a question before I watch the video😐
@@joewebb1092 because the video has explanations to how ranks are decided 😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐
17:49 no the reason why horizon's pickrate is so high is because people have spent hundreds on her heirlooms and her skins can we stop acting like she is still good because the only positive thing about her is her movement and when that is the case she's not much better than octane however at least octane's pad is actually useful cuz most cases horizon's isn't and this is coming from someone who plays EVERY SINGLE LEGEND
Man it sucks seeing fake rampart players out there… that’s my legend stay away 😂😂😂
How is caustic in buff? He is at least a B tier
cope
U should do gameplay again
Did he dead ass not include vantage?
Are you slow? He mentions her at 17:52
9:03 Octane
Dude! new meta is extremly easy! you need just 1 thing! AIMBOT!!!!
Every game someone has one!
wall hacks or aimbot to be diamond onwards
Vantage players are whack
Vantage would be fun but she has annoying voice and stupid voice lines. Love these videos. Keep on going, PEACE!
Ask stopping all that movement 😂😂 thats why yall keep sayin she weak yall want them to change her kit😂
Rank the maps
How about specific POIs since there’s more to talk about there?
@@MangosInTrees you should rank the maps and on each map talk abt the best pois also were so glad your still here
@@MangosInTrees good idea, you should do that instead. Kinda combines the ranking of maps as well since better maps would generally have more POIS on top.
If you do make that video, please try and give a visual of the POI for clarity. Good luck.