Best answer that I have thus far encountered on the internet. This gentleman is very knowledgeable and probably saved me a ton of money, not to mention headaches trying to remove.
I tried explaining this to first time buyers... There's so many people that try and scare people into overpaying shady contractors to just remove and replace it with vinyl that warps in the heat over a few years... Meanwhile the clapboard has been sitting on the house 70+ years looks good as new
Restoring an old house which has old stucco over existing asbestos siding 😮. The stucco has buckled in a couple of places at a bottom where it meets the foundation wall. I’m not sure if it worth fixing the stucco or try to install furring strips and vinyl over the stucco now. The issue is that to get to the studs, it’s stucco then asbestos siding then some kind of 1/4” paper board, then 1/2” fiber board and then a stud. So with a 3/4” furring, it’s 2 1/4” of material before the stud is reached. Any advice
this should have a fan fold insulation, plus 1 X 4" fur strips screwed vertically into the original studs with pan-head self tapping screws of no less than 2 & 1/2" then fill in the gaps between fur strips with cut to size (between the new 1 x 4 "studs") insulation use an adhesive to bond these together until close to level with 1 x 4 studs , then run siding, using the pan head screws and if you need to break a lap between 1 x 4 studs, just run a section of metal(coil stock ) between studs to catch a panhead screw . i do recommend pre washing 1 day before you do fur strips to keep dust at bay .
There IS a replacement tile made for the old asbestos siding. GAF makes it. It does NOT contain asbestos. It is however $100+ for a bundle of 18. It matches the old tiles perfectly. From experience, dimple holes in the new tiles where you want the nails to go but do NOT drill all the way through. You have to sort of pop the nail through the dimple with your hammer. If you drill the nail hole all the way through instead of dimpling and “popping” the nail through the dimple, the hole will be loose around the nail and the tile won’t sit firmly. It’s touchy. The new tiles are just as fragile as the original asbestos ones. You’ll most likely “break a few eggs” before you get it right. I know I did. But once I figured it out, I could attach them to this house perfectly about 90% of the time. So plan on ordering more tiles than you’ll need. Because I promise you’ll break a few.
First of all it wasn't cut by scoring it was cut with a device called an asbestos shingle cutter. which is basically a big cast iron shear. it also has a hole punch and a notching feature. secondly, if someone has put another type of siding over it then there is no way its gonna be in decent condition if you remove the newer siding. best case scenario would be if they used a masonry drill bit to drill through before each nail or screw. in that case you would have tons of holes to fill with caulk. But that's not likely because it would be very tedious, and time consuming. Also the asbestos will dull a masonry bit very quickly so they would of went through a crap ton of bits! The far more likely scenario would be that they just nailed right through the asbestos which means that it will be shattered in pieces, and sandwiched between the exterior wall and the new siding.
If it's in good shape, yes it's paintable but if it's dinged up or getting dinged up, then it needs to be dealt with either with remove and replace which causes the " health factor" or cover. Hammering nails in and causing shattering isn't my cuppa. I was investigating best alternatives for drilling screwing screws ( self tap vs holes w/bit/nail vs other type screws)and recovering an asbestos sided garage w/permanent siding.
Just like the lady, I decided to have vinyl siding put over asbestos siding because of an addition that was sided in wood and needed painting every few years because of the sun. (The paint was always peeling) Well just like the lady, I'm trying to figure out what's behind the asbestos. BECAUSE.. it has started to come loose and I can't seem to find anything to nail it back into. The installer probably couldn't either. Asbestos cracks like glass, so I doubt any would be left in any salvageable shape after having hundreds of nails pounded into it. You can actually hear it falling behind the siding or insulation at times. Also you need hazmat teams to remove it so.. Yes the Asbestos was never the problem, the wood trim and addition WAS always the problem. They've used 3" nails to tack the siding into the house, which I'm realizing has not worked well because i'm not getting anything to nail into. I'm going to try longer nails tomorrow but if this keeps happening I'm in a world of trouble. The whole idea was to keep me from having to paint again. If anyone is reading this, I would NOT recommend vinyl over asbestos. Replace or paint the trim, maybe even use something else for the trim, but the asbestos under the siding is DESTROYED. (the paint on the asbestos just faded or looked like it washed away, it NEVER peeled)
So...its better to paint over the obestos siding?...if thats the case,why are there so many rules & precautions on obestos if it can be painted & left alone?..something doesnt quite add up right
Asbestos siding is solid and not friable unlike vermiculite and other products when disturbed. Painting asbestos siding doesn't cause any cracking or breaking so no particles should be released. I think nailing new siding over it could cause asbestos particles to become airborne. I was hoping this video would provide more information.
The biggest problem with having Asbestos slate siding is that it is hard to find someone to INSURE your house. My homeowners insurance just more than doubled (from $2900 to $6500) because of the asbestos siding. A MAJORITY of insurance carriers will no longer write a policy for asbestos siding homes. Yeah it looks fine but now I need to weigh if it is worth paying upwards of $3K more per year just because of the siding type.
Sometimes insurance companies will give you a better rate with asbestos siding, only because it’s fire proof. Shop around for a better price and you may find one. You can always cover it up with vinyl siding and it will look great and even provide you with more insulation.
I love my Asbestos Siding, BUT Home insurance just cancelled my policy because of it, last week May-2024.. Insurance prices raised up, I got another company, they took my money and then cancelled my insurance cause I have the siding. Painted and solid, Warm in the winter and cool in the summer. I know I am one home owner not real cool right now.. Even my insurance broker can't find a new policy for me..
Insurance is one probably one of the top five things leading to the downfall of America, the government requiring people to have insurance on their vehicles and then they get in a wreck the government requiring people to have insurance on their vehicles and then they get in a wreck and then the government requiring people to have insurance on their vehicle just for the insurance company to fall through when you need them. Don't get me started on houses
The risk of keeping asbestos siding is not safety, but limitations on your ability to finance the home. Many lenders (especially for FHA, VA and other government backed loans) will not put mortgages on a home with asbestos. The federal and other regulations for removing asbestos siding are strict, with legal and even criminal liability for homeowners who violate the regulations. Small repairs are OK, but extensive removal or repair requires certified hazmat contractors.
Over asbestos I'm learning could become a nightmare. If this vinyl keeps falling off, It WILL take a hazmat+ teams to fix. The asbestos is destroyed now. And I'm not finding much to nail the vinyl back into. (Why I'm here trying to find out what's behind the asbestos)
Okay now tell me the correct way to install vinyl over asbestos ?
Best answer that I have thus far encountered on the internet. This gentleman is very knowledgeable and probably saved me a ton of money, not to mention headaches trying to remove.
I tried explaining this to first time buyers... There's so many people that try and scare people into overpaying shady contractors to just remove and replace it with vinyl that warps in the heat over a few years... Meanwhile the clapboard has been sitting on the house 70+ years looks good as new
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Restoring an old house which has old stucco over existing asbestos siding 😮. The stucco has buckled in a couple of places at a bottom where it meets the foundation wall. I’m not sure if it worth fixing the stucco or try to install furring strips and vinyl over the stucco now. The issue is that to get to the studs, it’s stucco then asbestos siding then some kind of 1/4” paper board, then 1/2” fiber board and then a stud. So with a 3/4” furring, it’s 2 1/4” of material before the stud is reached. Any advice
I have a vynile siding over asbestos siding, roughly how much am I looking to remove all of it and wrap nee and siding?
this should have a fan fold insulation, plus 1 X 4" fur strips screwed vertically into the original studs with pan-head self tapping screws of no less than 2 & 1/2" then fill in the gaps between fur strips with cut to size (between the new 1 x 4 "studs") insulation use an adhesive to bond these together until close to level with 1 x 4 studs , then run siding, using the pan head screws and if you need to break a lap between 1 x 4 studs, just run a section of metal(coil stock ) between studs to catch a panhead screw . i do recommend pre washing 1 day before you do fur strips to keep dust at bay .
Thank you kindly.
Great laugh “asbestos siding n lead paint”
There IS a replacement tile made for the old asbestos siding. GAF makes it. It does NOT contain asbestos. It is however $100+ for a bundle of 18. It matches the old tiles perfectly. From experience, dimple holes in the new tiles where you want the nails to go but do NOT drill all the way through. You have to sort of pop the nail through the dimple with your hammer. If you drill the nail hole all the way through instead of dimpling and “popping” the nail through the dimple, the hole will be loose around the nail and the tile won’t sit firmly.
It’s touchy. The new tiles are just as fragile as the original asbestos ones. You’ll most likely “break a few eggs” before you get it right. I know I did. But once I figured it out, I could attach them to this house perfectly about 90% of the time. So plan on ordering more tiles than you’ll need. Because I promise you’ll break a few.
Can you put brick veneer over asbestos siding?
First of all it wasn't cut by scoring it was cut with a device called an asbestos shingle cutter. which is basically a big cast iron shear. it also has a hole punch and a notching feature. secondly, if someone has put another type of siding over it then there is no way its gonna be in decent condition if you remove the newer siding. best case scenario would be if they used a masonry drill bit to drill through before each nail or screw. in that case you would have tons of holes to fill with caulk. But that's not likely because it would be very tedious, and time consuming. Also the asbestos will dull a masonry bit very quickly so they would of went through a crap ton of bits! The far more likely scenario would be that they just nailed right through the asbestos which means that it will be shattered in pieces, and sandwiched between the exterior wall and the new siding.
If it's in good shape, yes it's paintable but if it's dinged up or getting dinged up, then it needs to be dealt with either with remove and replace which causes the " health factor" or cover. Hammering nails in and causing shattering isn't my cuppa. I was investigating best alternatives for drilling screwing screws ( self tap vs holes w/bit/nail vs other type screws)and recovering an asbestos sided garage w/permanent siding.
Just like the lady, I decided to have vinyl siding put over asbestos siding because of an addition that was sided in wood and needed painting every few years because of the sun. (The paint was always peeling) Well just like the lady, I'm trying to figure out what's behind the asbestos. BECAUSE.. it has started to come loose and I can't seem to find anything to nail it back into. The installer probably couldn't either. Asbestos cracks like glass, so I doubt any would be left in any salvageable shape after having hundreds of nails pounded into it. You can actually hear it falling behind the siding or insulation at times. Also you need hazmat teams to remove it so.. Yes the Asbestos was never the problem, the wood trim and addition WAS always the problem. They've used 3" nails to tack the siding into the house, which I'm realizing has not worked well because i'm not getting anything to nail into. I'm going to try longer nails tomorrow but if this keeps happening I'm in a world of trouble. The whole idea was to keep me from having to paint again. If anyone is reading this, I would NOT recommend vinyl over asbestos. Replace or paint the trim, maybe even use something else for the trim, but the asbestos under the siding is DESTROYED. (the paint on the asbestos just faded or looked like it washed away, it NEVER peeled)
So...its better to paint over the obestos siding?...if thats the case,why are there so many rules & precautions on obestos if it can be painted & left alone?..something doesnt quite add up right
Asbestos siding is solid and not friable unlike vermiculite and other products when disturbed. Painting asbestos siding doesn't cause any cracking or breaking so no particles should be released. I think nailing new siding over it could cause asbestos particles to become airborne. I was hoping this video would provide more information.
The biggest problem with having Asbestos slate siding is that it is hard to find someone to INSURE your house. My homeowners insurance just more than doubled (from $2900 to $6500) because of the asbestos siding. A MAJORITY of insurance carriers will no longer write a policy for asbestos siding homes. Yeah it looks fine but now I need to weigh if it is worth paying upwards of $3K more per year just because of the siding type.
Sometimes insurance companies will give you a better rate with asbestos siding, only because it’s fire proof. Shop around for a better price and you may find one. You can always cover it up with vinyl siding and it will look great and even provide you with more insulation.
I love my Asbestos Siding, BUT Home insurance just cancelled my policy because of it, last week May-2024.. Insurance prices raised up, I got another company, they took my money and then cancelled my insurance cause I have the siding. Painted and solid, Warm in the winter and cool in the summer. I know I am one home owner not real cool right now.. Even my insurance broker can't find a new policy for me..
Insurance is one probably one of the top five things leading to the downfall of America, the government requiring people to have insurance on their vehicles and then they get in a wreck the government requiring people to have insurance on their vehicles and then they get in a wreck and then the government requiring people to have insurance on their vehicle just for the insurance company to fall through when you need them. Don't get me started on houses
The risk of keeping asbestos siding is not safety, but limitations on your ability to finance the home. Many lenders (especially for FHA, VA and other government backed loans) will not put mortgages on a home with asbestos. The federal and other regulations for removing asbestos siding are strict, with legal and even criminal liability for homeowners who violate the regulations. Small repairs are OK, but extensive removal or repair requires certified hazmat contractors.
The VA did mine and I have asbestos siding
So vinyl siding us a no go?
Over asbestos I'm learning could become a nightmare. If this vinyl keeps falling off, It WILL take a hazmat+ teams to fix. The asbestos is destroyed now. And I'm not finding much to nail the vinyl back into. (Why I'm here trying to find out what's behind the asbestos)
@@xziztortheeternal6471 did you ever get the situation figured out? I got my asbestos shingles covered with vinyl and have not had a problem yet
I do not like the retro look. Lol lol
Not a big deal