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I think you will have a harder time finding even 15 times destiny player hated warlocks. But for starters I know human ribs would actually keep you alive longer in a gunfight, and outpaced weapon damage.
I love how we always hate on other classes but in grandmasters you always ask for an Omni hunter, well lock, and storm titan we love to hate each other but always help eachother out. Kind of like 3 brothers that fight all the time but would always fight for each other too
Nah truly the only place where this class hatred really crops up is the crucible which is why that stuff needed to be balanced separately from the rest of the game like idk when D2 launched... In PVE it brings me nothing but joy to see that the blueberries I'm in a strike with that moment are the other 2 classes and we just rounded out naturally cause honestly when I'm running with another warlock it's like.. "oh now I don't stand out as much" especially when I pop a rift to the rescue lol Also it feels like when it comes to Exotics that break PVP the pecking order is Titans>Hunter>Warlock.... Almost every season and at least twice a year this proves to be true like clockwork. Lorely Splendor, One-Eyed Mask, Ursa Furiosa, Citan's Rampart, Peregrin's Greaves, And I think the Icefall mantle for a little bit Are Titan's claims to Infamy. Hunters have Wormhusk crown, Shinobu's vow, Gyrefalcon's hauberk, Omnioculus, Gwisin vest for a little bit, Stomp-ezz, I think there's like 2-3 more lesser abused ones... And then we have warlock... we have let's see for stuff the broke pvp or is abused there... Ophidian aspect, Geomag stabilzers (pre-nerf), Sanguine alchemy (pre-nerf), and maybe like 2 others that buff super performance idk stormcrown or something... Titan's and hunters get more crucible hate cause a lot more of their exotics perform well there is all I'm saying.
Stasis warlock is also very good in GMs and I don't think I've ever seen a storm titan in GMs, only bubble/shield. As for hunters, the very few times we had a hunter they always ran Aeon's 🤷
I swear, Bungie either makes Titans the most over powered bullshit imaginable or complete shit. “Here is this insanely OP exotic that works with all subclasses go nuts, but do it now before we make it do fuck all in about 2-3 months.”
Yep don't get me wrong I love HoiL ability spam but there's no way it's safe from a nerf. There's no way Bungie looks at it being the defacto exotic across almost all subclasses and says "yeah that's fine as is" Been taking it off and trying off meta builds bc ik the things gonna get hit at some point.
@@draysmusicalshtposts6340 most definitely is. I set my wife’s warlock up and run lost sectors for her and was kind of blown away how many of their exotics are super viable IMO. Kinda makes me wish Titan and Hunter had a few more options so wasn’t just HOIL, Synthos, Lorely and Omni, Gyrfalcs, Cowl.
I remember starting vanilla D2 and immediately being saddened that Shoulder Charge consumed your melee. And then I got Skullfort and my sadness went away
Man, you know you’re a Titan main when every thing on this list makes you nostalgic… Titan skating, Garrison, and back when Sunbreaker first dropped?! Damn, those were good times. In a match when you’d hear the hammer and anvil sound of a Sunbro popping their super, everyone would flee like rats… it was terrifying!!
What's funny for me is I never hated titans, But then again, I was a warlock main in Destiny 1 and most of the bs I encountered came from hunters. In D2, that trend has continued even as a now dedicated Titan Main.
Man, I miss that OG shoulder charge. Mk. 44s were always on. Now I usually roll Sentinel because Striker isn't as smooth anymore, from all the cutbacks.
I am a Destiny 2 titan main. Joined during the closing end of the Red War campaign/season. I can understand the hate on movement tech and grenades, especially since mobility was the hunter's thing and grenades were warlocks(or their wells). What I don't understand is the hate on the melee ability. I was always under the impression that the titan's entire thing was that they were powerful in close quarters and should be avoided like how players avoided warlocks with snipers and wells.
One thing i notice is that a lot of titan hate comes from crucible. meanwhile, in pve, ive often felt like titans lag behind the other classes, lacking anything as reliable as tether or well. It almost feels like bungie wants titan to be the pvp class, and, as a titan main, i wish theyd stop.
Hunters have their edgelord phases (which some never get out of and end up with their heads stuck between their unthicc cheeks, you heard me) Titans have their crayons and brainpower in "how to ez" And Warlocks have their kabooms and magics Everyone hates each other, it inspires class wars and classism, especially whenever Guardian Games comes around, yet we can't do much without each other because of our abilities. Its like advanced tough love between three adopted brothers.
Not really. I feel like it's pretty rare to find someone who hates warlocks. I'm a hunter I definitely hate titans but never cared too much about warlocks in pvp.
The problem is, This community doesn't actually want Fair and Balanced. They want "My Class to be superior." Everyone really needs to see when something is OP, It's OP. And if something can beat your character, that doesn't make it OP >_> For me, I mostly play Titan in PvP, And Hunter for PvP. Now if I want a cool looking armour from PvP, you'll see me mostly in there on my Hunter. So as a mostly Hunter Main, I'll 100% admit, That Titans Shoulder charge should be 1-hit kill again, And Warlocks HHSN should also be a 1-hit again. Because now, Hunters are the only class that have a 1-hit ability. The throwing knife, And the fact that also if you get a kill, you immediately get it back, and if you miss, you can dodge and get it back. Is kinda unfair. I don't want Bungie to take it away, No, But the other 2 classes should get theirs back
Another thing about the shoulder charge in D1, they had the OG stand asides, which made them able to tank about anything short of supers and sniper headshots with the overshield. Naturally no cooldown on that either, just sprintnfor like 3s and off you go, the duration of shoulder chrage and its juggernaut overshield was a small eternity. Edit: in D1, shoulder charge was not active forever. If you sprinted for too long, you lost it and had to stop and start sprinting again
One thing people never seemed to remember or realized in d1 is that you had to time the shoulder charge because you couldn’t hold it indefinitely like in d2
Man I saw this after playing iron banner last night and the pace of pvp has gotten absurdly fast again and it feels great. I can still shoulder charge one shot around corners though so 🤷♀️
I remember waaaaaaaaay back when Forsaken came out, The One-Eyed Mask was the epitome of Unstone Titan sweats in PvP & ES God mode in PvE......... *until The Witch Queen gave use Lorely Splendour.* Those first few weeks truly brought that feeling back 400-fold as well as pre-Solar 2.0 Solar Titans being able to get free damage buff & crazy health back too.
Yeah citan’s are kinda annoying but have yall heard of breaking the barricade or running away Reminder that häkke breached armament + anti barrier deal more damage to barricades, and citans have less health in general.
You realize it takes longer to kill a barricade than it does to kill a guardian, right? And I hope you realise by the time one barricade runs out you have another. On top of that, even if you somehow kill the barricade you definetly shouldn't be winning the gunfight too
In Destiny 1, I'm fairly certain, Not 100% but I'm pretty sure. Wasn't the Blade Dancers Backstab also a 1-shot kill? Sure it was finicky with the games "back hit box detection". But I think if you stabbed a Guardian in the back you'd kill them.
ya i was also confused when he said Titans shoulder charge was the ONLY 1 hit kill ability when blade dancer had that 1 hit backstab and at one point im pretty sure the throwing knife 1 hit to the head and warlocks solar melee also one hit but to be fair it required super
Literally any time they throw up a shield right in front of a boss. When you're capturing a zone and they throw their Captain America shield at you.... That's about it... Or when they toss up a bubble shield right as you fire a rocket at the entire enemy team on a zone in Iron Banner.
Now shoulder charge is so nerfed that after I use it on an enemy, they one-shot me with their shotgun as they're being pushed away from me. Very balanced, Bungo, thanks
love this getting recommended during the huge empathy strike on titans. I never played d1 so I wont talk much history about it, but in d2, titans have had so many great things that make them the star of the team in certain situations. PvE or PvP. Consider just the last couple years before TFS, smg meta with peacekeepers, triple bubble stacking in trials, good anateus players. Solar bonk in PvE, pre-nerf banner bug for Crota day 1. The current issue being that all the great stuff was patched to be "on level" with other classes although slightly weaker, with TFS introducing all the strong and fun stuff for Hunters & Warlocks, and then the lack of Titan mains at Bungie showed the lack of high-end testing for their stuff. Consequentially Hunters and Warlocks got some really powerful combinations like Feed the Void Helion, or Stylish Executioner Winter Shroud. Titan naturally has really strong aspects, so picking certain ones either wouldn't work logically together, or would just make Titan the penultimate class until a nerf. I.E Roaring Flames Into the Fray or god forbid Banner of War. In suit to avoid an immediate nerf to Titans, they made Titans too weak, and now have a new problem that people are complaining about something being underpowered Enjoy the context for people who didn't previously understand the current issue with Titans
@Darth Vader Handheld Supernova with Controverse Hold, OG Bottom tree Dawnblade super duration, Chaos reach in Trials (prior to the 30A changes), Penumbral Blast in the first two weeks of Stasis, Lightning Surge on Stormcaller (still not nerfed)...I'm a warlock main through and through, but we have had some BUSTED shit over the years, and that's just D2.
I like how for shoulder charge in D1 they say it "took no skill to use" while there were sniper shotguns. and CURRENTLY in D2, Hunters can completely miss their throwing knife and still manage to make the ricochet bound 20 times and STILL target the head for an instant kill AND THEN get the knife back instantly. In D1 Titans might have been a bit strong. But in D2 more than half of titan exotics are either nerfed or just meh. with only like 3 exceptions. How long did it take for ONE EYED MASK to get nerfed compared to Gryfalcons.
I'm still sad about Twilight Garrison not being available anymore for Titans but honestly what was that Bungie guy thinking when he literally went "whoops sorry mates, that ain't for Titans anymore, not their identity", sure the backlash is unreasonable but that kind of comment is still pretty much baseless
Should be 20 times, you forgot the part where S19 IB was a thing, and titans had access to that Void bubbel super of theirs.... which EVERY... SINGLE... TITAN ran during 2 full weeks of IB
For real. Every time something blatantly broken on titan gets nerfed, all you see is "tHe gUaRdiAn AnNiHiLaToR 3000 iS aLl We HaVe" while they sit on their pile of wildly powerful exotics and abilities lmao. And this is coming from someone who at this point almost exclusively plays titan in PvP because it's just so much stronger than the other two classes now.
As a Titan main, I thought it might be interesting to switch to Hunter so I could complete all my Iron Banner quests before reset, and only then did I truly understand how much of a nightmare we really are in PVP. Attack a Titan head on? Nine times out of ten you'll end up shoved halfway through a wall or flung clean off the map. Try to run away? You'll be chased down and trampled. Attack from a distance? Good luck getting through their barricade first. And once you hear a Super go off, you better pray someone has a DMT with Vorpal on hand to deal with the bloodthirsty Unstoppable Champion rocketing towards you at Mach 2. Don't get me wrong, I don't feel bad in the slightest. It just made me appreciate Titan even more than I already did.
The point is that Titans often have good stuff, but instead of Bungie balancing it out, for them it's more nerfing to the ground. Meanwhile they "balance" distributing even more broken skills to the other two classes. There's the pvp horrible vicious cycle in this game.
@@doglorde That's a Bungie "trait" it's either OP as F or nerfed to the ground. And this applies to the other 2 classes and pretty much everything in the game, weapons included.
I'm a titan main. I agree with most of the list...citans and the "barricade meta" I don't. These have been around for awhile and nobody complained. The citans shield was always weak and would easily pop to primary. Titans trade a TON of mobility (that hunters and solar warlocks have) for shields.
I remba a time when it was complained abou, also no, they were often considered op at one point, now tho there worse enough there considered largely not worth it eben tho it's kina jus a trade off
Now. Right now. I haven't touched PvP in any meaningful way in like two seasons because of how bullshit Titans have been recently. And since I'm not playing PvP, I'm not playing D2
*The Devs have openly admitted most of them are Titan Mains. Why would they ever play a class they didn't think "felt good"? lol They wouldn't! So... from that day. I switched up away from hunter and never looked back. My K/D has soared since then!*
Strange bc I remember most of the devs saying they were hunter mains, then warlock mains, but never titan mains. Don't suppose you have a source for that?
Hunters got an OP invisibility exotic. To nerf them, the devs gave them volatile rounds on demand. When loreleys was OP the devs just flat out nerfed it.
4 months later and titans have been hated for 4 more things (peacekeepers immortal, Antaeus again, behemoth targeted redaction 2 taps, and khepris horn glitch yesterday)
Destiny players be like "If I can spam1-hit kills its balanced, but if anything kills me it needs nerfed... unless its the same setup im using, then they were cheating or lag killed me" and the devs were like "sure bro" and now everybody zips around at mach 10 spamming 1-hit-kills with tracking bullets, infinite special/heavy ammo and non-stop abilities. I could see this being a fun game mode but not the whole f'kin game all the time. The go-fast update ruined gameplay and Ill die on this hill! I miss the game feeling like a real gunfight.
I’ve been a proud Titan ever since the start of Destiny 1 And one thing has been consistent throughout every different build I’ve tried I’m way too stupid to acknowledge the hate
True that Titan Bro (:D)...we the rock that others must step on and hold the community up to its crazee/stupid fun standards...it's like a Zavala No Hate Zone (:D)
Actually I like to see citan titans against myself. They become quite surprised getting an ashen wake fusion grenades under the feet or when their barricade crumbles with some anti-barrier weapons. So I have no problems with barricades. All that you need is simply shoot them. Same deal to void ones. They are not so strong as they are talked.
1 time the destiny community hated warlocks ( 1 because we never stopped hating them) they have been so favored in the meta for years now it makes me sick how overloaded they are and how they have lost their identity from destiny 1 now a days they are basically mismatch of destiny 1 titan and some random stuff
Should I even mention warlocks then? Radiance, self rez, fusion grenades, Nova bomb with Lance, Nova bomb with shatter, Don't even get me started on how broken storm caller used to be... Hunters are no exception should I even begin to mention the original wombo combo "oh there's a person there let me just throw my grenade and smoke at the exact same time because there's no delay" graviton forfeit enough said.. Golden gun the only super that could kill you from any range on any map in the crucible You and their sites you were dead there was no way to survive.. Don't even get me started on pre Nerf Arc blade or OG skip grenades paired up with the Skip grenade gauntlets...And last but oh my god certainly not least The fact that the hunters and warlocks got the The best exclusives in the game while Titans got shafted.. Hunter's got Ace of spades and stillpiercer while warlock's got The taloc And the only weapon in the entire game "that was still usable" that could change to any element and buff your abilities... Titans got an auto rifle that was bugged for over a year because they never fixed it until the end of d1 And a shitty shotgun The only worked when you were using Ward of Dawn while using it inside your bubble with a specific perk equipped on the subclass tree and even then after all that said and done you can only proc the ability with kills while inside the bubble. On a side note I'm only quoting stuff from destiny one if I start talking about the stuff in destiny 2 this will be twice if not three times the size of the message just for an example I could bring up original wormhusk crown prior to the Well needed nerf The difference between that and one-eyed mask is when I'm ask you actually needed to kill you couldn't just prock it whenever you wanted to and instantly have full health or dare I mention pre nerf blade barrage? The point is for every one thing there was for a Titan there was one if not two things for a hunter or warlock that were just as bad
To this day I’d say Titans are still a pretty robust class. On all my builds from easy shit to GMs I feel my Titan is just always slapping shit around .
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Spend the extra minute and use your stove.
Imagine putting an add halfway in the video. Imagine being that scummy.
I think you will have a harder time finding even 15 times destiny player hated warlocks.
But for starters I know human ribs would actually keep you alive longer in a gunfight, and outpaced weapon damage.
Only 19 times?
A highlight reel lol
But which are more hated: hunters, titans or warlocks?
It is a daily endeavor for me
Lol
@@xrinn6 the game
I love how we always hate on other classes but in grandmasters you always ask for an Omni hunter, well lock, and storm titan we love to hate each other but always help eachother out. Kind of like 3 brothers that fight all the time but would always fight for each other too
Just think of it as tough love lol
Nah truly the only place where this class hatred really crops up is the crucible which is why that stuff needed to be balanced separately from the rest of the game like idk when D2 launched...
In PVE it brings me nothing but joy to see that the blueberries I'm in a strike with that moment are the other 2 classes and we just rounded out naturally cause honestly when I'm running with another warlock it's like.. "oh now I don't stand out as much" especially when I pop a rift to the rescue lol
Also it feels like when it comes to Exotics that break PVP the pecking order is Titans>Hunter>Warlock.... Almost every season and at least twice a year this proves to be true like clockwork. Lorely Splendor, One-Eyed Mask, Ursa Furiosa, Citan's Rampart, Peregrin's Greaves, And I think the Icefall mantle for a little bit Are Titan's claims to Infamy. Hunters have Wormhusk crown, Shinobu's vow, Gyrefalcon's hauberk, Omnioculus, Gwisin vest for a little bit, Stomp-ezz, I think there's like 2-3 more lesser abused ones... And then we have warlock... we have let's see for stuff the broke pvp or is abused there... Ophidian aspect, Geomag stabilzers (pre-nerf), Sanguine alchemy (pre-nerf), and maybe like 2 others that buff super performance idk stormcrown or something...
Titan's and hunters get more crucible hate cause a lot more of their exotics perform well there is all I'm saying.
Stasis warlock is also very good in GMs and I don't think I've ever seen a storm titan in GMs, only bubble/shield. As for hunters, the very few times we had a hunter they always ran Aeon's 🤷
@@matus19971 you didn’t see every Destiny content creator last season say “use storm titan in literally everything”
@@STO21NE I follow a lot of channels but no, I've never seen that. I cant even imagine using it when I have an insanely strong solar titan.
I swear, Bungie either makes Titans the most over powered bullshit imaginable or complete shit. “Here is this insanely OP exotic that works with all subclasses go nuts, but do it now before we make it do fuck all in about 2-3 months.”
This… has been the experience for sure, I was a warlock main in D1, switched up to Titan in D2 and couldn’t agree more.
They do the same thing to hunter exotics as well…
@@bbjynx1036 true that! Renewal grasps are my absolute fav exotic in the game… they are, fine… now.
Yep don't get me wrong I love HoiL ability spam but there's no way it's safe from a nerf.
There's no way Bungie looks at it being the defacto exotic across almost all subclasses and says "yeah that's fine as is"
Been taking it off and trying off meta builds bc ik the things gonna get hit at some point.
@@draysmusicalshtposts6340 most definitely is. I set my wife’s warlock up and run lost sectors for her and was kind of blown away how many of their exotics are super viable IMO. Kinda makes me wish Titan and Hunter had a few more options so wasn’t just HOIL, Synthos, Lorely and Omni, Gyrfalcs, Cowl.
I remember starting vanilla D2 and immediately being saddened that Shoulder Charge consumed your melee. And then I got Skullfort and my sadness went away
Man, you know you’re a Titan main when every thing on this list makes you nostalgic… Titan skating, Garrison, and back when Sunbreaker first dropped?! Damn, those were good times. In a match when you’d hear the hammer and anvil sound of a Sunbro popping their super, everyone would flee like rats… it was terrifying!!
I miss rolling lobbies with universal and no back ups. The old days...
What's funny for me is I never hated titans, But then again, I was a warlock main in Destiny 1 and most of the bs I encountered came from hunters. In D2, that trend has continued even as a now dedicated Titan Main.
Man, I miss that OG shoulder charge. Mk. 44s were always on. Now I usually roll Sentinel because Striker isn't as smooth anymore, from all the cutbacks.
@@Razzy-sr4oq Bro literally me I was hardcore striker then D2 dropped and I started getting my shit run and switched to sentinel to stay alive
@@asimovstarling8806i‘m still traumatised by those stupid stormcaller warlocks back in d1
I am a Destiny 2 titan main. Joined during the closing end of the Red War campaign/season. I can understand the hate on movement tech and grenades, especially since mobility was the hunter's thing and grenades were warlocks(or their wells). What I don't understand is the hate on the melee ability. I was always under the impression that the titan's entire thing was that they were powerful in close quarters and should be avoided like how players avoided warlocks with snipers and wells.
One thing i notice is that a lot of titan hate comes from crucible. meanwhile, in pve, ive often felt like titans lag behind the other classes, lacking anything as reliable as tether or well. It almost feels like bungie wants titan to be the pvp class, and, as a titan main, i wish theyd stop.
The funniest thing about this game is that two classes will always hate and call the other class broken
@@josephsmith2417 remember chao reach meta ?
@@NeloGTzor icarus dash hood of the exile warlock being the face of Trials sweats for a loooooong time
@@NeloGTz that was so long ago now warlocks are pretty terrible
@@gone7131 this topic include destiny 1 ...
@@jckauffman6004 not broken, it was just good. And chaos reach didn't need that much of a nerf, it got absolutely gutted. Dawnblade now lasts 4 swings
Hunters have their edgelord phases (which some never get out of and end up with their heads stuck between their unthicc cheeks, you heard me)
Titans have their crayons and brainpower in "how to ez"
And Warlocks have their kabooms and magics
Everyone hates each other, it inspires class wars and classism, especially whenever Guardian Games comes around, yet we can't do much without each other because of our abilities. Its like advanced tough love between three adopted brothers.
I love the little D1 shoulder charge montage going on 😂😂
No matter you're class, the other two will hate you.
And yet its awesome to play together
Not really. I feel like it's pretty rare to find someone who hates warlocks.
I'm a hunter I definitely hate titans but never cared too much about warlocks in pvp.
found the titan main
@@brammerd1040 Jokes on you im a Hunter Main XD
@@yugnok you do not know how to play shadebinder
@@yugnok legit use it more youll see its the best warlock subclass rn but aight
The destiny 2 community seems to hate everything and everyone... This community will never be at peace lmao
The problem is,
This community doesn't actually want Fair and Balanced.
They want "My Class to be superior."
Everyone really needs to see when something is OP,
It's OP.
And if something can beat your character, that doesn't make it OP
>_>
For me, I mostly play Titan in PvP,
And Hunter for PvP.
Now if I want a cool looking armour from PvP, you'll see me mostly in there on my Hunter.
So as a mostly Hunter Main, I'll 100% admit,
That Titans Shoulder charge should be 1-hit kill again,
And Warlocks HHSN should also be a 1-hit again.
Because now, Hunters are the only class that have a 1-hit ability.
The throwing knife,
And the fact that also if you get a kill, you immediately get it back, and if you miss, you can dodge and get it back.
Is kinda unfair.
I don't want Bungie to take it away,
No,
But the other 2 classes should get theirs back
What a trip down memory lane. Really puts into perspective modern Crucible
Another thing about the shoulder charge in D1, they had the OG stand asides, which made them able to tank about anything short of supers and sniper headshots with the overshield. Naturally no cooldown on that either, just sprintnfor like 3s and off you go, the duration of shoulder chrage and its juggernaut overshield was a small eternity.
Edit: in D1, shoulder charge was not active forever. If you sprinted for too long, you lost it and had to stop and start sprinting again
For a complete list you would have to include every crucible match ever played
One thing people never seemed to remember or realized in d1 is that you had to time the shoulder charge because you couldn’t hold it indefinitely like in d2
19 times? That’s 99,981 times too less!
Man I saw this after playing iron banner last night and the pace of pvp has gotten absurdly fast again and it feels great. I can still shoulder charge one shot around corners though so 🤷♀️
I remember waaaaaaaaay back when Forsaken came out, The One-Eyed Mask was the epitome of Unstone Titan sweats in PvP & ES God mode in PvE......... *until The Witch Queen gave use Lorely Splendour.*
Those first few weeks truly brought that feeling back 400-fold as well as pre-Solar 2.0 Solar Titans being able to get free damage buff & crazy health back too.
I love the Classic Cerridius gameplay in the background lol
I love how much cerridius was on here. He was the king of this stuff lol
He’s one of the best titans to ever play
@@PattycakesGaming ive played with and against jimmy for a bit during opulence and have watched him ever since. Truly personifies TITAN.
It’s time to aim for 20 my titan brothers. Stand strong.
Titan, together, strong.
Hunters, weak. Always cry.
Warlock always read, punch book instead
“They’ve always been the center of a lot of hate.” *laughs and cries in hunter*
Hunter: *Plays Crucible*
Everyone Else: STOP FUCKING JUMPING THIS AINT HALO
Yeah citan’s are kinda annoying but have yall heard of breaking the barricade or running away
Reminder that häkke breached armament + anti barrier deal more damage to barricades, and citans have less health in general.
You realize it takes longer to kill a barricade than it does to kill a guardian, right? And I hope you realise by the time one barricade runs out you have another. On top of that, even if you somehow kill the barricade you definetly shouldn't be winning the gunfight too
Ah yes the "just break the barrier"
Class rankings (I use all 3)
PvE Rankings:
1. Warlock
2. Titan
3. Hunter
PvP ratings:
1. Hunter
2. Titan
3. Warlock
PvP was way off.
Titan belongs at the top for PvP.
Bubble has been a high skill floor option since it was made.
In Destiny 1,
I'm fairly certain,
Not 100% but I'm pretty sure.
Wasn't the Blade Dancers Backstab also a 1-shot kill?
Sure it was finicky with the games "back hit box detection".
But I think if you stabbed a Guardian in the back you'd kill them.
Yes and it would sometimes work in the front and the side
also res warlock's melee was a one hit in super with an on-hit overshield
ya i was also confused when he said Titans shoulder charge was the ONLY 1 hit kill ability when blade dancer had that 1 hit backstab and at one point im pretty sure the throwing knife 1 hit to the head and warlocks solar melee also one hit but to be fair it required super
Stormcallers also had sniper melees
Literally any time they throw up a shield right in front of a boss. When you're capturing a zone and they throw their Captain America shield at you.... That's about it... Or when they toss up a bubble shield right as you fire a rocket at the entire enemy team on a zone in Iron Banner.
Awesome overview and insightful commentary on how the crucible has returned full circle to the slow early-D2 double primary era.
1:35 this, with the "MK.44 stand asides" would have been amazing.
The footage at 16:48 where the titan shoulder charges a golden gun is from Mr fruits shoulder charge montage. Ah, the good ol days
Bungie secretly loves us crayon eaters
Now shoulder charge is so nerfed that after I use it on an enemy, they one-shot me with their shotgun as they're being pushed away from me. Very balanced, Bungo, thanks
love this getting recommended during the huge empathy strike on titans.
I never played d1 so I wont talk much history about it, but in d2, titans have had so many great things that make them the star of the team in certain situations. PvE or PvP. Consider just the last couple years before TFS, smg meta with peacekeepers, triple bubble stacking in trials, good anateus players. Solar bonk in PvE, pre-nerf banner bug for Crota day 1.
The current issue being that all the great stuff was patched to be "on level" with other classes although slightly weaker, with TFS introducing all the strong and fun stuff for Hunters & Warlocks, and then the lack of Titan mains at Bungie showed the lack of high-end testing for their stuff. Consequentially Hunters and Warlocks got some really powerful combinations like Feed the Void Helion, or Stylish Executioner Winter Shroud. Titan naturally has really strong aspects, so picking certain ones either wouldn't work logically together, or would just make Titan the penultimate class until a nerf. I.E Roaring Flames Into the Fray or god forbid Banner of War. In suit to avoid an immediate nerf to Titans, they made Titans too weak, and now have a new problem that people are complaining about something being underpowered
Enjoy the context for people who didn't previously understand the current issue with Titans
I'm proud to be a titan main, no backlash can stop my proud, strong, valiant class
Same here. We are the tanks of the destiny community and are undoubtedly awesome!
@@CarEnthusiast1807 y’all got more movement then us hunter mains thats crazy lol
Gorilla army
Gorilla army indeed
Dude. Even better with strand. We both block, and stick on pve.
Warlock: We Learn about the City
Hunter: We Patrol Around the City
Titan: WE ARE THE CITY
you forgot to mention the 1 hit melee comeback aka Peregrine Grieves, thing can 1 hit someone out of a Well or Bubble
Curious if you'll be doing this for all 3 classes or just this once? Loved the video!
I did hunters already, it’s linked in the description. And I’ll likely go warlocks too if this video performs okay
@@PattycakesGaming we warlocks have never been hated
@Darth Vader
>_>
Controverse holds with Handheld Supernova my lad.
@@darthvader9173 hated for almost all of d1 lol
@Darth Vader Handheld Supernova with Controverse Hold, OG Bottom tree Dawnblade super duration, Chaos reach in Trials (prior to the 30A changes), Penumbral Blast in the first two weeks of Stasis, Lightning Surge on Stormcaller (still not nerfed)...I'm a warlock main through and through, but we have had some BUSTED shit over the years, and that's just D2.
I hope there’s a Warlock and Hunter video coming soon.
The hunter one already exists btw :)
Titans be wildin every season, but heaven forbid I jump a lil too high in front of the wrong dude😂
I don't know about the community but those are 19 reasons why I love my titan, and that part at 9:59 was just great memories.
I like how for shoulder charge in D1 they say it "took no skill to use" while there were sniper shotguns.
and CURRENTLY in D2, Hunters can completely miss their throwing knife and still manage to make the ricochet bound 20 times and STILL target the head for an instant kill AND THEN get the knife back instantly.
In D1 Titans might have been a bit strong.
But in D2 more than half of titan exotics are either nerfed or just meh. with only like 3 exceptions.
How long did it take for ONE EYED MASK to get nerfed compared to Gryfalcons.
I'm still sad about Twilight Garrison not being available anymore for Titans
but honestly what was that Bungie guy thinking when he literally went "whoops sorry mates, that ain't for Titans anymore, not their identity", sure the backlash is unreasonable but that kind of comment is still pretty much baseless
He was answering a question too many people were asking
Don’t forget Empyrean Bellicose, the other Titan exotic that got turned into a passive warlock ability.
Old Titan super was like thundercrash and new fist of havoc had a baby.
"Those were some painful times" - ever played with 4kda mm nowadays? It's literally UNPLAYABLE.
Should be 20 times, you forgot the part where S19 IB was a thing, and titans had access to that Void bubbel super of theirs.... which EVERY... SINGLE... TITAN ran during 2 full weeks of IB
What can I say, the power of crayons is a force to be reckoned with
Lol titans and hunters have been 90% of the problems in the game, yet warlocks always get harsher treatments smh.
Seeing all the D1 gameplay really makes me wish we still had the same slim and clean titan look instead of the bulky stuff we have in D2 :(
I'm gonna use this video whenever a titan main says they NEVER had anything good.
For real. Every time something blatantly broken on titan gets nerfed, all you see is "tHe gUaRdiAn AnNiHiLaToR 3000 iS aLl We HaVe" while they sit on their pile of wildly powerful exotics and abilities lmao. And this is coming from someone who at this point almost exclusively plays titan in PvP because it's just so much stronger than the other two classes now.
As a Titan main, I thought it might be interesting to switch to Hunter so I could complete all my Iron Banner quests before reset, and only then did I truly understand how much of a nightmare we really are in PVP.
Attack a Titan head on? Nine times out of ten you'll end up shoved halfway through a wall or flung clean off the map. Try to run away? You'll be chased down and trampled. Attack from a distance? Good luck getting through their barricade first. And once you hear a Super go off, you better pray someone has a DMT with Vorpal on hand to deal with the bloodthirsty Unstoppable Champion rocketing towards you at Mach 2.
Don't get me wrong, I don't feel bad in the slightest. It just made me appreciate Titan even more than I already did.
The point is that Titans often have good stuff, but instead of Bungie balancing it out, for them it's more nerfing to the ground. Meanwhile they "balance" distributing even more broken skills to the other two classes. There's the pvp horrible vicious cycle in this game.
@@doglorde That's a Bungie "trait" it's either OP as F or nerfed to the ground. And this applies to the other 2 classes and pretty much everything in the game, weapons included.
@@doglorde your not wrong
One Eyed Mask was definitely the most broken exotic in PvP. I will never debate that
No it wasn't
@@JT-ih2rxjust curious what has actually been better then OEM when forsaken first launched
I subconsciously used titan skate; but only util'd it in PvE
The pvp community still hates titans
i do miss one shot shoulder charge, running arc with skullfort was so fun
I'm a titan main. I agree with most of the list...citans and the "barricade meta" I don't. These have been around for awhile and nobody complained. The citans shield was always weak and would easily pop to primary. Titans trade a TON of mobility (that hunters and solar warlocks have) for shields.
I remba a time when it was complained abou, also no, they were often considered op at one point, now tho there worse enough there considered largely not worth it eben tho it's kina jus a trade off
Long as there are two classes left in the game, someone is going to want someone nerfed.
I never hated my fellow titans... on the other hand, I despise the supid warlocks and always will
I still remember being shoulder charged walking around every corner in D1 crucible and part of me still harbors resentment towards them because of it.
Seeing arc blade makes me want it back. I get it's specter blades but arc but it just hits different
Even though I'm a hated titan main I'm still going to be the melee monkey and I'm proud of it
Universal remote and shoulder charge 1 hits in D1 are my fondest memories
Do warlocks next... the 2x where warlocks were hated
Tbh, everyone still blame titans to be punchy apes, but damn warlocks on this aspect are even more cracked with their wireless and long ranged melee
Wait. If it never stops, does that count?
As soon as the D1 beta hit, yall knew titans were too good. And its never slowed.
in D1 titans were so easy to deal with but rn they are a nightmare to handle
Hmm since I started playing since beyond light , warlocks have been nerfed the most
Now. Right now. I haven't touched PvP in any meaningful way in like two seasons because of how bullshit Titans have been recently. And since I'm not playing PvP, I'm not playing D2
*The Devs have openly admitted most of them are Titan Mains. Why would they ever play a class they didn't think "felt good"? lol They wouldn't! So... from that day. I switched up away from hunter and never looked back. My K/D has soared since then!*
Strange bc I remember most of the devs saying they were hunter mains, then warlock mains, but never titan mains. Don't suppose you have a source for that?
Hunters got an OP invisibility exotic. To nerf them, the devs gave them volatile rounds on demand.
When loreleys was OP the devs just flat out nerfed it.
@@AlticrooI mean it was a good nerf instead of all of your weapons getting a damage buff it’s only void weapons
4 months later and titans have been hated for 4 more things (peacekeepers immortal, Antaeus again, behemoth targeted redaction 2 taps, and khepris horn glitch yesterday)
It’s just been one time for me because I would have to stop hating them in order to begin hating them another time 🙃
"19 crimes Titans still pay for to this day"
You forgot Universal Remote + Juggernaut meta
Every class is always hated by every other class
Ease access to the game for newbie and casual players+ low skill ceiling = Titans.
Where'd my crayons go🥲🥲🥲
Year one, Tractor Canon in Bubble shield
I still get one -shot by shoulder charge 😂
Destiny players be like "If I can spam1-hit kills its balanced, but if anything kills me it needs nerfed... unless its the same setup im using, then they were cheating or lag killed me" and the devs were like "sure bro" and now everybody zips around at mach 10 spamming 1-hit-kills with tracking bullets, infinite special/heavy ammo and non-stop abilities. I could see this being a fun game mode but not the whole f'kin game all the time. The go-fast update ruined gameplay and Ill die on this hill! I miss the game feeling like a real gunfight.
what a fun time! running like a crazy one and shoulder charge everyone !!!
Cmon. We RARELY get OP moments and most of these are D1.. hunters now have way more things that piss me off and its been that way for like 2 years😭😭
I’ve been a proud Titan ever since the start of Destiny 1
And one thing has been consistent throughout every different build I’ve tried
I’m way too stupid to acknowledge the hate
True that Titan Bro (:D)...we the rock that others must step on and hold the community up to its crazee/stupid fun standards...it's like a Zavala No Hate Zone (:D)
Double Primary should've stuck around, made Crucible more bearable than getting Shotgun Slid every time you spawned in.
*remembering arc shoulder charge in year one with skullfort* I think we're the baddies
What’s the music at 6:29?
If suppression grenade has one fan, I am that fan. If suppression grenade has no fans, it is because I am dead
I’m surprised the random jug meta at the end of d1 wasn’t mentioned.
Cant wait for "3 Times The Destiny Community Hated Warlocks"
Me looking at pvp bubble Titans: you disgusting creature
Me looking at pve bubble Titans: hey look my best friend
Lorely was popularized in Haunted cause of Solar 3.0 but it was released in Witch Queen
@@EpslionBear I'm still upset that got taken away, fuck lorely give me my damage boost.
I bet a hunter video includes at least 50+ tops and is at least 2 hours long.
Can’t wait to see my warlocks getting put on blast, remembering the og handheld supernova
Actually I like to see citan titans against myself. They become quite surprised getting an ashen wake fusion grenades under the feet or when their barricade crumbles with some anti-barrier weapons. So I have no problems with barricades. All that you need is simply shoot them. Same deal to void ones. They are not so strong as they are talked.
2:10 only 1 shot ability in game (sticky grenades left the chat)
I’ve been a warlock main since the beginning of D1 but I’ve always liked the titans and now think I’m gonna swap just to be a part of the problem
1 time the destiny community hated warlocks ( 1 because we never stopped hating them)
they have been so favored in the meta for years now it makes me sick how overloaded they are and how they have lost their identity from destiny 1 now a days they are basically mismatch of destiny 1 titan and some random stuff
any recap on this on whats changed since?
Should I even mention warlocks then? Radiance, self rez, fusion grenades, Nova bomb with Lance, Nova bomb with shatter, Don't even get me started on how broken storm caller used to be... Hunters are no exception should I even begin to mention the original wombo combo "oh there's a person there let me just throw my grenade and smoke at the exact same time because there's no delay" graviton forfeit enough said.. Golden gun the only super that could kill you from any range on any map in the crucible You and their sites you were dead there was no way to survive.. Don't even get me started on pre Nerf Arc blade or OG skip grenades paired up with the Skip grenade gauntlets...And last but oh my god certainly not least The fact that the hunters and warlocks got the The best exclusives in the game while Titans got shafted.. Hunter's got Ace of spades and stillpiercer while warlock's got The taloc And the only weapon in the entire game "that was still usable" that could change to any element and buff your abilities... Titans got an auto rifle that was bugged for over a year because they never fixed it until the end of d1 And a shitty shotgun The only worked when you were using Ward of Dawn while using it inside your bubble with a specific perk equipped on the subclass tree and even then after all that said and done you can only proc the ability with kills while inside the bubble. On a side note I'm only quoting stuff from destiny one if I start talking about the stuff in destiny 2 this will be twice if not three times the size of the message just for an example I could bring up original wormhusk crown prior to the Well needed nerf The difference between that and one-eyed mask is when I'm ask you actually needed to kill you couldn't just prock it whenever you wanted to and instantly have full health or dare I mention pre nerf blade barrage? The point is for every one thing there was for a Titan there was one if not two things for a hunter or warlock that were just as bad
I love how you pulled the shoulder charge montage from Mr fruit old vid love it
To this day I’d say Titans are still a pretty robust class. On all my builds from easy shit to GMs I feel my Titan is just always slapping shit around .
14:26 Loreley came out in Risen, not Haunted.