The Real Origins of the Philistines and Palestinians

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  • @johnnypunish
    @johnnypunish 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3294

    As a Palestinian, I have family who are both Christian and Muslim. Our mix is a mess of Mediterranean Peoples, Arab Nomads and Religions. Actually, in the 21st century, it turns out we are HUMAN BEINGS just like everyone else. Who knew?

    • @funfunny9328
      @funfunny9328 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Can you understand Arabic?

    • @johnnypunish
      @johnnypunish 4 ปีที่แล้ว +282

      @@funfunny9328 LOL! Why do you ask? Of course, I speak Arabic. My mom's first language is Arabic. Later, as a refugee in Lebanon, she went to a French Catholic school and learned French. Much later in life, she learned English. But it was broken. Arabic was our language at home. Arabic was the language among the family. Now, I live in Mexico and speak Spanish too... so now, in 2020, I am a citizen of the world communicating with everyone in whatever way works. I think this is the future for all humanity. The age of colonization is dead has been replaced by Globalization. The European colonization of Palestine might be the last ever......globalization does NOT provide incentive for colonization. All one needs to do is start a global business and that colonizes for profits and control of resources. Its a new world and the 20th century has no future. My two cents.

    • @funfunny9328
      @funfunny9328 4 ปีที่แล้ว +65

      @@johnnypunish that's great. I meant it in a good way:) I'm a supporter of everything Palestinian though im not from Palestine. I would like to share with you a work of a historian who spent most of his life studying Middle Eastern history in ancient times especially that of Palestinian. His work dismantles the zionist view of world history especially Eastern ancient history since it plays a major role to justify occupation of Palestinian land. Are you interested lol? Its a very detailed formative episode on TH-cam and of course the historian has books discussing this in detail.

    • @johnnypunish
      @johnnypunish 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@funfunny9328 Yes, you can send it to me at johnnypunish@gmail.com. You can also follow my media work at johnnypunish.com.

    • @alexandermarcussen557
      @alexandermarcussen557 3 ปีที่แล้ว +169

      You are Arabic and not Palestinian/Philistine. Philistines are the Greek people.
      Maybe you have a passport that tells you that you are Palestine but that is a political correct thing and not the truth.
      Unless you have Greek blood that is.

  • @UnknownWarriorZz
    @UnknownWarriorZz ปีที่แล้ว +537

    My friend who thought he was 100% Palestinian came up 97% Greek in a DNA test. Interestingly, I am Greek and had Egyptian, Turkish, and Jordanian in my DNA test and only came up like 30 % Greek when I’m supposedly 75%.

    • @antigonus1161
      @antigonus1161 ปีที่แล้ว +35

      Damn you may be more Greek than me a native one hahaha kudos to both of you I hope your friend gets reconnected with his Greek heritage and visit Greece a lot in the future!

    • @pinapple60
      @pinapple60 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      I had an X Palestinian boyfriend and he told me about their Greek origins very interesting.

    • @marie.theartist
      @marie.theartist ปีที่แล้ว +43

      Mine also did and i also have jewish, iran, egypitian, levantine, spanish, italian, north/west african, native american (mexico), south india, north/west europe, french.😂 Yes, i am the world map.

    • @christophgriener9852
      @christophgriener9852 ปีที่แล้ว +59

      What exactly defines Egyptian and Jordanian DNA? From what period etc.?
      These tests are a convenient way for the company to collect DNA samples and get paid for it, but I would not necessarily believe everything they tell you

    • @afisemenaborevlaka48
      @afisemenaborevlaka48 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'm Greek and the DNA test came up showing my ancient ancestors said "believe half of what you see and nothing of what you hear". Ever wonder who controls the major DNA search companies and how their tests are total bull$hit?

  • @markevans9379
    @markevans9379 ปีที่แล้ว +615

    Ariella Oppenheim at the Hadassah Institute in Jerusalem has done a great deal of research on the DNA of the present dwellers in the Holy Land. Her findings confirm the fact that the Israelis and the Palestinians are the next of kin. This knowledge has been codified in a book "Brother Shall Not Lift Up Sword Against Brother" by Tsvi Jekhorin Misinai. I highly recommend it.

    • @HomeByTheSeas
      @HomeByTheSeas ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@benyahudadavidl Ader Dur Der!

    • @williammulcahy
      @williammulcahy ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@davidbenyahuda5190 No lies. . . All true.
      Research carried out by Professor Ariella Oppenheim at the Hassadah Medical School Laboratories prove beyond doubt that Palestinians and Jews are Blood Brothers. . . They carry the same gene ( The Cohanic Chromosome)
      See Tzvi Misinai video. . . Palestinians of Jewish origin higher resolution ( 5 minutes into video)
      Also Tzvi Misinai video. . . Jewish roots of the Palestinians video.
      Palestinians are your Blood Brothers.

    • @djblackruss
      @djblackruss ปีที่แล้ว

      They’re converts they’re not Hebrews. Hebrews and Palestinians are cousins Hebrews we taken to America

    • @7thpower998
      @7thpower998 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      I was waiting on the truth. thank you !
      Everyone wants to paint themselves into the masterpiece,but lacks the correct medium,
      The soul brush is priceless and can't be bought or duplicated only inherited. Under certain circumstances will be imitated and artificial.
      5 claws up,5 claw clinched 4fangs deep
      Roar!!!!!!!!!!!

    • @HomeByTheSeas
      @HomeByTheSeas ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@benyahudadavidl No original humans exist, they're all dead.
      Black, white, etc are all understandings of a time of now.
      All evolution had the same trajectory.
      Therefore NO PEOPLE NOR ORGANISM can lay claim.
      We all came from the same common ancestry, black men, white men.
      Quit trying to feel special BECAUSE OF YOUR SKIN COLOR, RACISTS.

  • @Thenoobestgirl
    @Thenoobestgirl ปีที่แล้ว +114

    I hated Bible study as a kid, but this is fascinating!
    Who knew that in order for me to enjoy learning about Bible stuff all you had to do was add an archeological aspect to the mix?

    • @KelzBernard
      @KelzBernard ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Sis you would definitely love the work of archeologists who have excavated biblical sites. Many of the ancient biblical sites have been found and confirmed. When it comes to Jesus Christ (Yeshua Hamaschiach) and archaeology, prepare to have your mind blown. My faith in Him has always been strong but it is solidified after studying his historicity.

    • @stevrgrs
      @stevrgrs ปีที่แล้ว +7

      It's probably because now you know it's pertinent information and NOT a fairytale :)

    • @1776Jan
      @1776Jan ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Because of prejudices.

    • @PEACE2U-ALL
      @PEACE2U-ALL ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Just wait. What’s happening right now with Israel is a huge thing tied to the Bible.
      Everyone is going to be having a real world, real time Bible study.

    • @PEACE2U-ALL
      @PEACE2U-ALL ปีที่แล้ว

      @@stevrgrs
      “There IS no evidence!”
      Well, there’s evidence you WON’T see,
      and evidence you can’t NOT see.
      Be careful what you wish for. It’s here.
      Sincerely, God

  • @flyingteacher
    @flyingteacher ปีที่แล้ว +353

    This is what I love: a historical perspective about Palestinians. No hate, not even in comments just historical information. Great! As a history teacher I highly recommend ❤

    • @TheMadmacs
      @TheMadmacs ปีที่แล้ว +55

      its possible to be hateful without doing it overtly, the first clue was when he named the modern countries positions in relation to the old map and names, he mentioned lebanon israel and egypt, so modern palestine doesnt exist? i'm afraid it does, its occupied but it exists. then the bit about 1948 jews won the war of independence....... this is a very dark period in israeli history. there was no war of independence, what actually happened is the UN gave israel statehood, 55% of palestine. israels first action was to ethnically cleanse all the arabs out. it has provoked endless violence ever since because it knew it would win any fight especially when america started backing it. i'm afraid this kind of lecture is riddled with flaws and lies. i recommend ilan pappe and gabor mate to get a better more honest view of what happened. i'm not arab or jew i'm not religious at all, and i'm sick of the world being in turmoil because jews have mistreated the native people of the area. the native jews of palestine thought creating an israeli state was insane..... looks like they were right.

    • @jeanene72
      @jeanene72 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      @TheMadmacs Agreed. I started watching this one hoping to find something with truth to share,but it is, like you said riddled with so many flaws it can't be used to explain the truth of the matter. DNA does not make a person good or evil. Thankfully, God judges on our works, not those of our ancestors.
      Ezek 18:20 "The soul that sinneth, it shall die. The son shall not bear the iniquity of the father, neither shall the father bear the iniquity of the son: the righteousness of the righteous shall be upon him, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon him.
      [21] But if the wicked will turn from all his sins that he hath committed, and keep all my statutes, and do that which is lawful and right, he shall surely live, he shall not die.
      [22] All his transgressions that he hath committed, they shall not be mentioned unto him: in his righteousness that he hath done he shall live.
      [23] Have I any pleasure at all that the wicked should die? saith the Lord GOD: and not that he should return from his ways, and live?
      [24] But when the righteous turneth away from his righteousness, and committeth iniquity, and doeth according to all the abominations that the wicked man doeth, shall he live? All his righteousness that he hath done shall not be mentioned: in his trespass that he hath trespassed, and in his sin that he hath sinned, in them shall he die."
      When the Philistines (and others) were corrupt and committing abominations, they were to be removed from the land. But Israel also fits that category, because God also kicked them out of the land. Those people are dead now, and even if the present-day Palestinians are their descendants, they are not to be held liable for their ancestors' sins. What Israel is doing now, is the pot calling the kettle black lost after the kettle has been cleaned up.

    • @TheMadmacs
      @TheMadmacs ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @@jeanene72 thanks for sayin, its a thankless task to try and inject some sanity and facts into this topic, i've been doin it for years and since the horror of oct7 its been so much harder but never more important. ilan pappe and gabor mate have some great info on the history.

    • @inko_lor
      @inko_lor ปีที่แล้ว +13

      he literally keeps quoting the Jewish Bible

    • @alternativetext5262
      @alternativetext5262 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Oh no, he’s definitely inserting his Jewishness. Not to a huge extent but he mentions it several times. So, we know what his bias is.

  • @knawl
    @knawl 4 ปีที่แล้ว +63

    The fact is that saying "only a sling shot is a big misrepresentation as the slingshot is a deadly weapon and one doesn't need to get close to an opponent to kill them. They were widely used even by the persian army

    • @jakeman8653
      @jakeman8653 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Well we are just repeating the way Goliath himself mocked the "puny" weapon compared to his own.

    • @iman7j887
      @iman7j887 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      They are still being used by Palestinian against the goliaths of the days 😉

    • @moodist1er
      @moodist1er ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It's just a slingshot when it's 200m away.. definitely doesn't justify murdering children because they're slinging rocks at a fence with over 400m between them and the nearest person.

    • @hbccareers6745
      @hbccareers6745 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      ​@@moodist1erslingshot didn't remove unborn babies from their mothers wombs, stab them, and leave them both to die.

    • @suffianabdrashid8899
      @suffianabdrashid8899 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      To counter the stone age slingshot, they, Jews use satellite guided missile & and ask for Uncle SAM to support with aircraft carrier

  • @artawhirler
    @artawhirler ปีที่แล้ว +180

    I was amazed yesterday watching a documentary about the Middle East conflict on another channel. They had an interview with a modern Palestinian who was speaking (presumably) Arabic. What amazed me was that every time he said the word "Palestine" he pronounced it "Philistine"!!! This was a total moment of revelation for me - much like the day, long ago now, when I instantly realized in a sudden flash of insight that the famous "Cossacks" were actually "Kazakhs"!!

    • @F-J.
      @F-J. ปีที่แล้ว +60

      Words are lost in translation. Like David is Dawood. John is yahya. Jesus is Eesa. Eve is Hawaa. Mary is maryam. Able is Habeel. Cain is Qabeel. And many more. Its the English language that bastardised the real original names.

    • @La-Stranger
      @La-Stranger ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@F-J.facts

    • @Tenebris_Sint
      @Tenebris_Sint ปีที่แล้ว +38

      @@F-J. “Palestine” is from Latin not English.
      “Philistine/Philistia” is Greek.

    • @Tenebris_Sint
      @Tenebris_Sint ปีที่แล้ว +17

      @@F-J. David is Daud, not Dawood.

    • @earth_ling
      @earth_ling ปีที่แล้ว

      @@F-J.
      Your not very bright are you?
      Palestine came from the name Philistine. It was given to the land by the Roman’s in 100ad. As an insult to the Jewish population. The land is and always has been called the Land of Judah. Or the Land of the Jews.

  • @caroleberry3999
    @caroleberry3999 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    Thank you, Seth for this wonderful lesson!!! I love your programs & I’m sharing to my friends.

  • @debrtx
    @debrtx ปีที่แล้ว +145

    Wow! So much amazing historical, biblical, and genetic information to explain. I am 6 decades old, so do know some but your lecture, presentation, and facts truly clear up so much for me. This is just one segment of history but very important to understanding past and current events of the region and impact to the world. Thank you so much.

    • @williamlaprarie3007
      @williamlaprarie3007 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      It's amazing what we can learn from DNA, like native Americans migrated from pacific islands and mixed dna with eastern Indian. Oldest relics and ruins along with Nordic dna indicates they are the earliest inhabitants of north America we have found so far.

    • @жизненный_опыт
      @жизненный_опыт ปีที่แล้ว

      I'm also 6 years old

    • @baphometos
      @baphometos ปีที่แล้ว +1

      History in the Bible 0,5%

    • @wingedinfinity6715
      @wingedinfinity6715 ปีที่แล้ว

      I believe this is why the "End Times" that we are in is so entirely special and we are ALL COMPLETELY BLESSED FOR BEING HERE. MY THEORY : ALL OF THIS IS A TEST. All timelines have merged, all bloodlines have merged, all religions have merged (whether you know it or not, because all peoples of religions have converted to other beliefs, sometimes multiple times in one lifetime). What I'm trying to say is, THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NO EXCUSE FOR WAR / VIOLENCE AGAINST ANOTHER BROTHER, UNLESS DIRECTLY ATTACKED AND FIGHTING FOR ONE'S PERSONAL LIFE OR THE LIFE OF AN INNOCENT PARTY. ALL WHO KILL OTHER INNOCENT PEOPLE, KNOWN IN THE BIBLE AS "BLOODSHED" WILL SUFFER HEAVY CONSEQUENCES IN THE AFTERLIFE. I WARN EVERYONE TO LOOK AT THE 💥BIG PICTURE💥 .... STAY AWAY FROM VIOLENCE AND BE STILL. YOUR REWARDS ARE GREAT. THE ANSWER IS NOT WHAT THEY WANT YOU TO BELIEVE. FOLLOW JESUS AND PASS THE TEST !!!!!! 💥✝️💥

    • @jdizzle1939
      @jdizzle1939 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@baphometos history in the Bible 100% accurate. History frome the Hadith or Quaran is inaccurate, causes confusion, and is full of discrepancies and lies.

  • @user-es8si3cv8b
    @user-es8si3cv8b 2 ปีที่แล้ว +52

    I would love to hear more about the mammuthunters on the Eurasien steppes,siberien tribes. Scandinavians,American Indiana the Tarim mumies,neanderthals and denisovans and dragonman,kalash people,yezidies in northern iraq ect, yuechi in china,yuzhi of the iriqois in southwestern usa

    • @christinagarvey1057
      @christinagarvey1057 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Check out the work of a American Jew by the name of David Reich. He's famous in his field of study. This presentation is filled with lies and bias. David Reich sticks to DNA with precision.

    • @tymanung6382
      @tymanung6382 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Tarim.Basin, Xinjiang Region, China
      mummies are defunct Tokharians,
      a red haired Iranian people, now claimed
      by modern Turkic, Uighurs to have been
      assimilated by modern Uighurs.
      ,

    • @twatts1523
      @twatts1523 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@tymanung6382The red headed Iranians also ended up in New Zealand, before the Maoris.

    • @bufordhighwater9872
      @bufordhighwater9872 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The Iroquois were from Eastern Canada/Northeastern USA. The biggest groupings of peoples in the American Southwest would probably have been the American Southwest would have been the the Athabaskan, Pueblo, and Zuni,

  • @richardsparks7051
    @richardsparks7051 4 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    I love all the research & effort put into lecture . I don’t mind the Tennessee accent . I live in Tennessee born in Alabama .

    • @jewfro888
      @jewfro888 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Lol I have just started watching this video, my first of this channel. And I was thinking to myself this guy has a slightly southern Midwestern accent.it’s not completely southern but it’s not completely Midwest either.

  • @vickib4063
    @vickib4063 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Very insteresting lecture though it seemed to be a littel onesided more towards the Jews. My question is - If the Canaanites were a mix of Jews and Palestinians (those that curenty identify as Palestinians), and this has been proven with DNA results, why do the Jews claim they have alsolute rights over the land that was for hundreds of years called Palestine (according to your summary if I recall after the roman invasion). And if the people living there during the British mandate (all living peacefully at the time after the mandate was established) were a mix of Christian, Jews and Muslims, then, can it not be assumed that these people at the time of occupation were the inhabitants of the land of Palestine before the state of Israel was established. And before Palestine was officially recognised as a state - of sorts.
    AT the time before the take over, the people of Palestine (be they jews, christians or arabs) considered themselves Palestinians and held Palestinian passports.
    Could it not be assumed that these people were the inhabitants of Palestine at the time of the occupation by the Zionists.
    All these original occupants of the area were kicked out of Palestine when the Zionists took over their land, homes, businesses, orchards etc in 1948. How can these Zionists claim the land is theirs if the origins of people (proven through DNA) first recored as the people living there, were in fact a mix of Jews, Christians and Muslims. What gives them the right to claim this land as theirs when it fact it already belonged to the people living there despite the fact that it had not officially been declared the state of Palestine.
    Historically (as you said since the roman invasion) it had always been called Palestine. And other studies claim that the Jews at the time, even at the time of the occupation were only abut 2% of the population.
    It appears to me from your video that the people who were living there before the occupation are the owners and original occupants of the land of Palestine. How can the Zionists in all consciouce move in and evict these people from their homes, their land, their orchards, their businesses and just take over the land like a cuckoo. If I took over your home what would you do? Fight back? Resist occupation? Try to get me out of your home?
    I don't think this problem would even exist if the Jews that came to Palestine after the war had intermingled with the population, built their own homes, started their own business, etc without evicting the existing population.
    Unforutnately it is now a war of politics and money. The gas fields of the Gaza strip that the Israelies want to control (and the US, plus wanting to control the middle east) and the colateral damage is the Palestinians. This debarkle may never have happened if the Zionists had not been so greedy to want their own racist state. And why Palestine. Why not somewhere in America? Why not somewhere where there were no other existing people?

  • @here_we_go_again2571
    @here_we_go_again2571 ปีที่แล้ว +131

    Thank you for such a concise and well-illustrated lecture!
    Study of Antiquity and the Middle Ages never disappoints!

    • @badgoy534
      @badgoy534 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Not true, g-d called it Palestine in Joel 3:4. Palestine was named after the Arab deity Baal, hence Pali-Stan. Phelastin is just the semitic pronunciation of the name. Syria was named after his wife Ashyra/Assyra. The whole region Syria-Palestina.

    • @David-qp4jq
      @David-qp4jq ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@badgoy534Wrong, Phelastin Is a Greek name . These people occupied Israel. They have no Arabic or palestinian DNA whatsoever..

    • @markhorton3994
      @markhorton3994 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@badgoy534Where do you get pali stan from Baal? Someone is making things up.

    • @badgoy534
      @badgoy534 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@markhorton3994 it is written and document it, google it. I read it in a book called Anacalypsis for Sir Godfrey Higgins

    • @JessJoanne
      @JessJoanne ปีที่แล้ว

      @@badgoy534 DNA proves European gene pools to ancient cities of Philistine. Yes, there was a Syria Palestina. Your 'connections' have holes.
      Ba'al was a Canaanite-Phoenician God of fertility. Nothing to do with Arab. Also, Ashyra is Hebrew, not Arabic.
      Arabs interpret Philistine and Palestine as 'Filastin'. That is because of their language. They never said Palestine. It wasn't part of their language. Look at and compare other languages and the interpretation of the 2 names.
      Yes, there was a mention of Palestine in the Bible. You are missing why though.
      Syrians were Arabized later on.
      Palestine is from Latin.

  • @truthrangers4815
    @truthrangers4815 4 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    And Canaan saw the land of Lebanon to the river of Egypt, that it was very good, and he went not into the land of his inheritance to the west (that is to) the sea, and he dwelt in the land of Lebanon, eastward and westward from the border of Jordan and from the border of the sea. And Ham, his father, and Cush and Mizraim his brothers said unto him: 'Thou hast settled in a land which is not thine, and which did not fall to us by lot: do not do so; for if thou dost do so, thou and thy sons will fall in the land and (be) accursed through sedition; for by sedition ye have settled, and by sedition will thy children fall, and thou shalt be rooted out for ever. Dwell not in the dwelling of Shem; for to Shem and to his sons did it come by their lot. Cursed art thou, and cursed shalt thou be beyond all the sons of Noah, by the curse by which we bound ourselves by an oath in the presence of the holy judge, and in the presence of Noah our father.' But he did not hearken unto them, and dwelt in the land of Lebanon from Hamath to the entering of Egypt, he and his sons until this day. And for this reason that land is named Canaan.
    -Jubilees 10:29-34

    • @sacrednavigator5003
      @sacrednavigator5003 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @Gary Allen I'd rather lean towards the ancient writing rather than modern "biblical" scholars. Just sayin'.

    • @gmork1090
      @gmork1090 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@sacrednavigator5003 Oh. My. God. Biblical scholar doesn't mean the scholar was a christian/jew and there are many, many, many atheist biblical scholars.

    • @benyahudadavidl
      @benyahudadavidl ปีที่แล้ว

      If there were and are no bears ,corn, or gopher wood in that part of the world, how could that be the holy land? Asking for a friend.👊🏿🕎⚔️🏹🌽🪶💜

    • @kedemawicardenas79
      @kedemawicardenas79 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      The land of Israel IS in EAST AFRICA! North East Africa. The video should be titled: The STATE of Israel could have been in Uganda. The land of Israel sites on the African tectonic plate. It's part of the continent. It's only the skewed Eurocentric creation of borders and revisionist history that attempts to seperate the land from it's continent and history of African people and African culture. The same people who try to laughably cast Egytians as Turks from the North and even worse, Western European types.

    • @ChristabellaH
      @ChristabellaH ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@kedemawicardenas79 no. Adam eve=mesopotamian. Abraham chaldean from ur around iraq/turkey region.
      Noah after flood/turkey
      Humanity did NOT spring up out of Africa. And Africa are not SHEM. They are Ham/Canaanites...
      Esau is an edomite who had 2 wives around Jordan. His lineage married into Ishmael the Egyptian bond servants bastard son who is not heir. So any way you put it... Palestinians are squatters... and are like cousins mad they didn't get anything in the will. No where is Africa in this. We are talking about Middle Eastern people. The ottoman empire was there last. A Turkish dynasty...

  • @debbiewilson9712
    @debbiewilson9712 ปีที่แล้ว +72

    The 'Palestinians' and Jews ARE 1/2 brothers. Isaac and Ishmael.

    • @resb8748
      @resb8748 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Covenant is with Isaac though not Ishmael

    • @ericmuthiani1676
      @ericmuthiani1676 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Palestinians were there before Isaac and Ishmael goliath was a Palestine...Arabs are from Esau and lot...Ishmael is African

    • @SignOfJonah77
      @SignOfJonah77 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      The Palestinians are not Arab they are not from Ishmael. The Palestinians are from a left over different groups of people. Gypsies, Romans, Mongolians, etc… they have no claim to any land.

    • @Jesusisyhvh1
      @Jesusisyhvh1 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@ericmuthiani1676Essau is not the father of the Arabs, Essau is the father of the Edomites, which is western Jordan. Ishmael is the father of the Arabs.

    • @rebeccatodd2261
      @rebeccatodd2261 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@resb8748 doesn’t change they are brothers

  • @PAS_2020
    @PAS_2020 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    What total fun! Students always dream of having a professor like this. Would want to go to his class 💯‼️

  • @daiyumyo
    @daiyumyo ปีที่แล้ว +10

    As a Lebanese person, what I understand from this video is that, if basing on solely ancestral and genetic claims, we Lebanese should invade and claim the land. Israel-Palestine conflict resolved.
    Who knew.
    Edit: And also I'm very inbred. Thanks for that.
    Edit2: Nevermind, we're all inbred.

    • @amouri0307
      @amouri0307 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ya zalame hahahahahahahahah

    • @daiyumyo
      @daiyumyo ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @axileus9327 My favourite uncle's my daddy

    • @daiyumyo
      @daiyumyo ปีที่แล้ว

      @@amouri0307 sarle betmanyak 3a rfi2e 2ahlo 2raybin, nba3aset

    • @amouri0307
      @amouri0307 ปีที่แล้ว

      hhhhhhhhhhhhhhh falastin la2elna la2eno na7na el dna ta3na canaani aktar min el falastiniye@@daiyumyo

    • @jasjas6368
      @jasjas6368 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Did you even see the video?? Lebanese people are cannanites as mush as palestinians that doesn’t mesn lebanese should claim rhe land, cannan was not only in palestine

  • @lmabadie
    @lmabadie ปีที่แล้ว +22

    The Babylonians did not exile entire populations, only a minor fraction of them, such as artisans and nobility, this applies to both Jews and Philistines. Most of the original populations (add Canaanites and other cultures than were neither one) remained in place and were not displaced. Same way, only a fraction "returned" generations later. Both cultures changed drastically after the Babylonian conquest and then again after Geeks and Romans conquests, and of course Muslim/Arab. But again, no large movements of people, mainly conversions and mixing.
    There was no mass exile after the Romans conquered Palestine, and other revolts (before and after C.E.) but significant massacres, conversions and mixing between Pagans, Jews, Christians, and Muslims and then the crusades and there were MULTIPLE religions with significant variations of Paganism, Judaism and Christianity. There were no massive movements of people, that were irrelevant compared to the number of converts, that constitute most (all) of Christians, Muslims AND Jews today. During Roman times there were more Jews OUTISDE of Palestine/Judea than in it and almost 100% of them were converts (everybody was a convert at one point or another) and not migrating Jews.
    Problem with bias "history" is that it likes to twist or ignore facts as convenient to their narrative, and this video is just another sad example.

    • @aredditor4272
      @aredditor4272 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      All that, and you left out the effect of the Jewish-Roman wars.

    • @StarreLabell
      @StarreLabell ปีที่แล้ว

      Why would you watch an entire, hour long, presentation that you obviously disdained immediately?

    • @lmabadie
      @lmabadie ปีที่แล้ว

      @@StarreLabell I watched plenty, enough to see that this is a brainwashing exercise with an agenda, suitable to indoctrinate ignorants or for consumption of those that want to be told what they want to hear.

    • @lmabadie
      @lmabadie ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@aredditor4272 who? me? I make reference to it but there was no massive exodus if that is what you want to imply. Most inhabitants of Palestine during Roman times, those that survived after the Roman - Jew wars, (the Jews, Samaritans, Gnostics, and pagans remained for the most part, and their descendants are still there, as in most other conquests worldwide, it is just that now they are predominantly of Christian and Muslim faith and most of them speak Arab, a Semitic language similar to the Aramaic, the language spoken by Christ. Same as in all other conquests, the conquest of Europe by Caucasus tribes and the Conquest of America by Europeans.

    • @den264
      @den264 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Best , most honest post on here. In fact I am surprised you were not delisted, especially as the jews in America are spending billions to put a positive spin on Netanyahu's Genocidal revenge mission in Gaza. The second this guy tossed a giant in to the ring was the second I tuned out.

  • @polgarian2024
    @polgarian2024 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Viewing this great lecture 6 days into the Gaza vs Jewish state war.
    Times do not change, just the weapons and ideologies...

    • @shukeelc5177
      @shukeelc5177 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The Palestinian Vs the White European Khazarian invaders

    • @joes3256
      @joes3256 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Israeli geneticist Eran Elhaik and a 2022 John Hopkins DNA study concluded over 80% of palestinians descend from ancient hebrews while 97.5% of israeli jews have no genetic link and are NOT semites. The original jews are the palestinian people, who were ethnically cleansed by invading zionists alien to the land. The third temple, Alaqsa, was built by the people of jerusalem, many jews who converted to islam during its construction upon the liberation of jerusalem from roman rule and the return of palestinian jews to jerusalem in 632-634 ad. The invading zionists, according to Israeli author Shlomo Sand in his book "The invention of the Jewish people are jewish converts alien to palestine. In the 8th century ad the Khazar kingdom in ukraine converted to judaism and would go on to make the ashkenazi jewish population in europe. Yemenis converted to judaism during the yemeni kindom o Himyar in the 5th century ad during the rule of Dul Nawas. There were jewish kingdoms in iraq and north africa as well. The palestinians are the eternal natives of the land. Free Palestine.

    • @Rosko3333
      @Rosko3333 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Not all ideologies have changed

    • @Sabbathissaturday
      @Sabbathissaturday 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@Rosko3333 thankfully

    • @Sabbathissaturday
      @Sabbathissaturday 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I pray all Jews welcome yeshua. As a lot do not.

  • @solgoldberg8185
    @solgoldberg8185 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Great lecture! Thank you! Very relevant for now . I don't know how i found you , but wish more people would!!!

  • @champfox1
    @champfox1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    The British and French created the official borders of the middle east states. Before that there were the various regions and territories all the way back to antiquity. At that point, Nationalism and not religion was the tool to excite the masses. Abdel Nassir of Egypt inspired the region with it. The Arab speaking population of Palestine and the Jews of Palestine surely felt that energy and were proud of their newly formed Nation after the British expelled the Turks and created the official borders.

    • @maracohen5930
      @maracohen5930 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      The League of Nations created the modern Nation States of the MENA from the carcass of the defeated Central power Ottoman Turkish Empire. Sadly, two of the Allied Powers who had been selected to be the tutelary Administrators Responsible under Article 22 of the League of Nations Covenant of the Mandatories of Syria, Palestine and Iraq. And both failed miserably because they had always sought to be Colonialist Powers in the Region, and utilized their positions to violate and abrogate whatever was not in their own national interests. The illegal “horse trading” of already delineated and mandated Land base such as the Golan for Mosul and environs was typical of such breach of law and responsibilities. When they, and specifically the British argued for changes at the LON, it was inevitably in what was in the Brit’s national interests. While they would argue for, and legally get the status of the Mandate for Palestine changed (The transjordan Memorandum), on behalf of the Arabs, they did not advocate for any of the minority groups from Ottoman Days. They had all but repudiated the 1916 Balfour Declaration when it was brought up at the San Remo Conference and the intent thereof made into International law in 1922. And while the British were arguing at the LON for 77 percent of the Mandate for Palestine to be made into “Arab Palestine”, exclusively, but they had no intent to allow local Arabs under Amin al Husayni to rule themselves…they had the Hashemites, “Real Arab” Aristocrats as clients to whom they owed debts of Empire…instead of a new Caliphate, the Hashemites got the Kingdom of Iraq (with all that oil…) and the Emirate of TransJordan….just as the Brits got Kuwait removed from the Mandate for Iraq as a set aside for a specific Arab family…but British Activities of this nature were all set n behalf of Arabs, not Kurds, nor any of the other Peoples of the Region, who predated Arab Muslims , on the Lands assigned except for Maronite and Orthodox Christians in Lebanon and Jews in Israel. The Assyrians, the Druze, none were assigned/mandated Land base by the League….no advocacy for them. Luckily, Jews had some strong Advocates at the San Remo Conference. Amir al Husayni, former Turkish Soldier, the Brit appointed Mufti of Jerusalem refused to attend. The TransJordan Memorandum still passed at the LON. But the Hashemites had Brit Advocacy…and the Mufti had refused to participate. Oh well. The missed opportunities of history.

    • @kooringagnd
      @kooringagnd ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Jews of ISRAEL!

    • @moodist1er
      @moodist1er ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@kooringagndZionists are Nasi Nazis. Send all the settler colonists back to the countries that the accents they speak their conlang with came from.

    • @saltshaker1776
      @saltshaker1776 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      There never was or is a country of Palestine

    • @starbrightinfinity3329
      @starbrightinfinity3329 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      It was the Ottoman Empire before what it is now. The land was controlled by the Turks

  • @aliceputt3133
    @aliceputt3133 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    So both Jews and Palestinians are Canaanites and are related, which was what I suspected all along. This is a massive replay of Cain and Abel. The difference is the religion not the people.

    • @2mexpesos
      @2mexpesos ปีที่แล้ว

      Well yeah Islam wants to delete all Jews and Christians 👀💀

    • @Sportsextra-q8f
      @Sportsextra-q8f ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Jews are not canaanites . The Canaanites are children of Ham not Shem and they refer to modern day East Africa ( You can correct me if I am wrong)

    • @micheletoussaint5168
      @micheletoussaint5168 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Clearly you did not watch this entire presentation. The Jews are not Canaanite in origin. When Abraham came into the region, the scriptures describe his presence there as a 'sojourner', a stranger' in that land.
      Abraham traveled from Ur of the Chaldees into Canaan, the land of promise and met the various marauding tribes of Canaan already established there.

    • @doylecole
      @doylecole ปีที่แล้ว +1

      This is a family fight over inheritance that goes back through history.
      The fight over the Temple Mount and the Dome of the Rock lays bare the lies on BOTH sides,
      The DNA tells the tale.

    • @moniquesmith3236
      @moniquesmith3236 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      No G-d told the Jewish people to conquer the Cannanites as G-d said He is giving the Land to Israel for their homeland. Jews & Canannites are not related.
      But Jew & Arab are by the fact that Abraham via his concubine Hagar had Ishmael & Abraham's wife gave birth to Isaac.
      Both Isaac & Ishmael attended the funeral of their father Abraham.
      Canaanites are a completely different genetic tribe to either Jew or Arab

  • @maryfrancesbeckerhaggerty5353
    @maryfrancesbeckerhaggerty5353 ปีที่แล้ว +66

    Seth is awesome! I will be subscribing to his channel. This video is the college history classes I never got to take. Thank you for recommending him.

  • @franksiegle6346
    @franksiegle6346 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Thank you, sir. I have a nodding acquaintance with this history. The whole situation in that part of the world saddens me and angers me, as I'm sure it does any non Jew and non Muslim. Most of them as well. It should never have come about. Anyone of European descent who hates a Semitic Muslim is an anti-Semite, just as anyone is who hates a Jew. As usual we have political leaders and those who aspire to power who have created this mess. Of course with help from others who are prone to fear and hate. And we have 75 or so years of pain and hate as a result.
    I seem to remember Teddy Koleck, (I/m pretty sure that was his name) who was for a time Mayor of Jerusalem, advocating a joint Administration for the city. Here is a city holy to three religions. History is what is past. Some things done cannot be undone. It's a reactionary pipe dream that you can go back to what was before. Cherish what was. Sorrow over the past debacles, the wars, the genocides. But move on.

  • @elizabethmakaleng267
    @elizabethmakaleng267 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    HISTORY is HISTORY and it's important to learn from HISTORY ❤❤❤❤

    • @birgip.m.1236
      @birgip.m.1236 ปีที่แล้ว

      History is HIS-story written by the "winners"... invaders... conquerors... the dominant ones in power who had control ... who had the means to get written what they wanted
      Those without the power-means & safety to write their history & herstory down, carried & carry it orally

  • @sivispacemparabellum5476
    @sivispacemparabellum5476 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    I been saying the Hebrews were descended from the Cannanites and modern Palestinians are also descended from the Cannanites but unfortunately ignorance is very prevalent especially amongst western!

    • @limitlesssky3050
      @limitlesssky3050 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yes, one is the one that left, while the other is the one that leave. You would think two brothers would be happy reuniting as one after all that discrimination and conquering. Yet they discriminate and kill each other now.

    • @sivispacemparabellum5476
      @sivispacemparabellum5476 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@limitlesssky3050 well the one that left came back after so many years accompanied with his friends (the west) and said I don't recognize you being my brother therefore I'm taking the whole place so the brother who never left said you know what I never left so I'm doing whatever I can to not let you throw me out cuz I have nowhere to go...rest was/is history unfortunately!

    • @AaronRobertson-fahey
      @AaronRobertson-fahey ปีที่แล้ว +1

      They didn't leave they was forced out

    • @djtrigger90
      @djtrigger90 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@sivispacemparabellum5476 not at all what happened... en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1948_Arab%E2%80%93Israeli_War#:~:text=It%20formally%20began%20following%20the,the%20morning%20of%2015%20May.

    • @sendawulakajubi2991
      @sendawulakajubi2991 ปีที่แล้ว

      No, canaanites are not Arabs. They are their own semitic group

  • @roberthenahan7885
    @roberthenahan7885 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    It seems that the Jews and Palestinian Arabs share an equal amount of descent from the ancient Canaanites. It seems likely therefore that the Arab Palestinians share an equal amount of descent from the Jews of Biblical times as do modern Jews.

    • @tiggero6690
      @tiggero6690 ปีที่แล้ว

      No, it's the other way round. Jews are a sub-set, a deviant branch off the main tree.

    • @shukeelc5177
      @shukeelc5177 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Except for the white European Jew who are Khazars

    • @CaraCha212
      @CaraCha212 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      No, it's not equal amount. Palestinians are highly Canaanite (up to 90%) while jews (non-converts) are somewhere at 20%-40%.

    • @LOL-ro9ef
      @LOL-ro9ef 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@CaraCha212 How do they know or have access to Canaanites dna? Do they dug up bones and persume those are cananite bones and match dna of those to modern palestinians? Those dna tests are very sus

  • @UGTLDG
    @UGTLDG ปีที่แล้ว +34

    I'm Greek and very interested in the late-bronze-age collapse. My very own avatar is a Cretan figurine that certainly looks like a Peleset from Egyptian artwork. But I'm really sceptical about some aspects of the analysis. For instance, Greek burrial customs didn't include mouth-guards, but rather full face mascs. And cremation was very common, in contrast with Philistine burrials, where the bodies were laid entire. Also, the inlet photo in 30:36 is not from Philistine. The central piece is a recognizable crown found in the Dead-Sea, and many of the others are wands, scepters and pommels probably attached to wooden scepters or clubs. None of these items seems to be a mouth-guard. There is a widespread acceptance that Philistines were indeed the Peleshet. And the word Peleset does have a superficial connection with Pelasgoi, or Pylos, or Phaistos and other Greek names. But the link of the Peleset with the Achaians is far from established, appart from some scarce linguistic and art referances. There is a huge linguistic gap between the names and toponyms of late bronze/early iron age Cannaan (such as Goliath and Gath for instance) and what we read in linear b script (the palatial scripture of the Achaians which is a recognlzable form of early Greek). Linear b was syllabic, therefore single-syllable toponyms such as Gath or Dan would be highly improbable. On the contrary, it seems that the Greeks rather tended to add furhter syllables! As an example, the disciphered refference to "slave women from To-ro-ja" may actually reffer to Troy (Troia in Greek, Truassa in Luvian). The notion of "origin" in general (in early historiography), is tricky. As a relativelly recent example, historians of the 18th century AD, were saying that "pirates originated from Martinique" while we now know for a fact that they initially came from allover the globe, gathered and organised themselves in Martinique and used it as their initial base. Speaking about sea-peoples we tend to forget how cosmopolitan late-bronze age was! Sea-people stronghold was probably Cyprus (Alassiya in Egyptian). Therefore, the given origin of Crete (Capthor) is certainly older, the question is how much older. It's one thing to mean that Peleset came from Caphtor to Alassiya, and another one to mean that they literally originated in Capthor. It is even possible that the Peleset were a group of revolted slave-tribes from the Aegean (much like how the Israelites identify themselves in Exodus), but they don't appear to be Greek-speaking. And we cannot say otherwise without written evidence of the actual ancient Philistine language, yet to be found.

    • @PeterMilanovski
      @PeterMilanovski ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Full face masks were a Macedonian burial custom, greek burial custom's would have been something closer to Jewish burial custom's as the ancient Greeks are descendants of the Israelites who turned up after the eruption of the Santorini volcano which erupted around 1500bce! The Macedonians who used to occupy the ancient city of Hella and abandoned it during the volcanic eruption and relocated further east to the new city of Pella which the Israelites who were simply known as Greeks by the Macedonians who pronounced it Grejci pronounced Greitsi in english meaning foreigners.... These foreigners occupied the ancient Macedonian ruins until being conquered by King Philip II and remained conquered until the fall of the Macedonian empire to the Romans and finally by the mighty ottoman empire for the rest of the 500 years! The word Greece hadn't even been invented yet, it wasn't until the Rosetta stone was found that it was believed that it was greek, which it wasn't! There are 3 alphabets used on the Rosetta stone and they are Egyptian hieroglyphics at the top, Macedonian koine at the bottom and as we have learnt from the recent decipher the middle text is ancient Macedonian Sanskrit!
      If you have followed the journey of the Rosetta Stone, you should know that in the early 1800's there was no one in Greece who could read anything written on the stone! It came down to British and French linguistic experts who believed that it was written in greek due to the same alphabet being used on the ancient ruins and texts found in the location where these Greeks occupied, the Macedonian koine alphabet was wrapped around the greek spoken language by the British and French linguistic experts who badly mistaken it as greek.
      That's why we don't see any evolution of the greek alphabet today! It just seems to have magically appeared out of nowhere! Never mind that it looks Slavic! And yet every Slavic speaking language all sounds similar, the Greeks on the other hand sound Spanish and even Jewish but use a Slavic alphabet.... There's a mismatch there that doesn't make sense!
      Actually all Greek history doesn't make sense!
      And if you were blindfolded and taken to Tunisia, you would think that you are in Greece! The architecture and the people look identical!
      We know from history that Tunisia is situated on top of the old Carthage, just like the Greeks who are situated on top of the old Macedonia, the bible tells us in the book of exodus that Moses was instructed by God to head for the piller of smoke by day and piller of fire by night, this piller was the island of Santorini volcano erupting! Archeology has shown us that the Israelites made it to the island of Crete, it's clear that from Crete they split between the ancient city of Hella Macedonia and the other side where the ancient city of Carthage was!
      It's evident that the Tunisian and greek heritage is one and the same as both originated out of Sub Saharan Ethiopia which explains the strong DNA linkage!
      You can clearly see it in actual pure Greeks who have dark skin and look just like anyone else in Tunisia! A caucasian greek is either Albanian or Macedonian by decent, though the Albanians are Macedonian by decent anyway....
      Trying to fit the Greeks into ancient European history the way that it has been must stop! The Greeks were never an authority since they landed in Europe, they were held captive until the end of the Ottoman Empire! There was never a greek scholar! All so called greek writings were and still are in Macedonian by Macedonians!
      You couldn't possibly read ancient Greek writings because even though it appears to be written in greek, it's actually written in Macedonian koine and is incomprehensible to Greeks, just like the manuscript found in a greek church in Alexandria which the Greek priest commissioned a couple of Danish linguistic experts to try and decipher it, it was written in koine but made no sense in Greek until a copy of a few pages was sent to a Macedonian linguistic expert who was able to read it and provided a translation to the amazement of the Danish guys, they were told that it's not greek, it's in fact macedonian!
      Once you remove all mentions of Greeks from history, the only thing left is the Macedonians and suddenly history finally makes sense!
      It's the Greeks who have been chasing an unknown self history that have muddied the pure waters of actual history...
      It really begs to be rewritten, for the sake of factually correct history.

    • @UGTLDG
      @UGTLDG ปีที่แล้ว

      Nope. A well known Bronze Age Greek burial mask is called "Agamemnon's". Unearthed in Mycenae, Southern Greece... Apart from this, there are literary thousands of sites and writen sources that give us a good indication of burial rites in Bronze Age Greece. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_masks_of_Mycenae#:~:text=The%20death%20masks%20of%20Mycenae,males%20and%20one%20male%20child. Creamation was widespread in contrast with the rest of the Aegean. www.jstor.org/stable/pdf/j.ctv8d5tfn.15.pdf?refreqid=excelsior%3Acbc7d4814ef0a27a5945a4dd25669b8a#:~:text=Cremation%20was%20a%20very%20rare,palatial%20political%20and%20economic%20system. Macedonian masks, either of Greek or Thracian or other origin, are dated in the Iron Age, up to 2 THOUSAND years later! @@PeterMilanovski

    • @UGTLDG
      @UGTLDG ปีที่แล้ว

      PS. Ok, reading furhter, this is far worse than I initially thought. If you visited a village 3 thousand years ago, nobody would make you a DNA analysis. Ancient civilisations are much more cultural than genetic! That's why you have the Achaemenid empire, for instance! Nations are a CULTURAL notion! The modern 'Macedonian language" (i.e. the language of the Repupblic of North Macedonia) is clearly Slavonic, with huge relations to modern Bulgarian! en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Macedonian_language#/media/File:Slavic_languages_tree.svg While modern Greek has a writen continuity of thousands of years. Linear B (~1500BCE) tablets are written in a form of Greek, not Slavic.... You are talking about distortion of history? You? Just a mere example for those who might take you seriously. You mentioned Macedonian Koine. You mean Greek koine, the dialect in which the Holly Book was first written in 1c CE. The specific example is the well known "Lord's prayer", first verse, English version: Our Father in heaven. Greek koine version: πάτερ ἡμῶν ὁ ἐν τοῖς οὐρανοῖς. Transilteration: páter hēmôn ho en toîs ouranoîs. Modern Greek transliteration: patéra mas, (ho) stous ouranoûs. This is almost the same as the ancient original! While the Macedonian equivalent is: Оче наш, кој си на небесата, transliteration: Oče naš, koj si na nebesata. Almost NO resamblance to the original Koine! But almost IDENTICAL to the modern Bulgarian: Отче наш, който си на небесата, transliteration: Otče naš, kojto si na nebesata. You guys should count your blessings that the world decided to allow you a Macedonian national identity. But nope, you now whant to change the whole history to fit in your shoes.... sorry buddy, YOU just have to change shoes. The sooner, the better for you. th-cam.com/video/OIB5SKG3no0/w-d-xo.html

    • @iliaannai3627
      @iliaannai3627 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@PeterMilanovskiMacedonians were Greeks and remain Greeks. You ppl are delusional believing otherwise. All over written scriptures it's stated that Macedonians are Greeks, only you deny history bc Tito brainwashed you Slavic ppl. You are Slavic and nothing can change that.

    • @nikim5051
      @nikim5051 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      ​@@PeterMilanovskiMacedonians were Hellenic people and during Alexander's reign he spread the Hellenic culture and language including in the lands of Israel and Palestine which has not been mentioned in this video. Slavs during these times in history did not exist in Europe they arrived later in the 6th century AD from the Ukraine/Russian regions.

  • @jessenicholas1909
    @jessenicholas1909 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    my research led me to believe that the 'sea peoples' were actually the remnants of the Greek and Trojan armies after the Trojan War... some Greeks got lost, some went on raiding, and Troy was utterly destroyed , their people were dispersed

    • @notsogreen
      @notsogreen 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It was S Italian & Greek. Especially Sardinian for the S Italian. Greeks settled S. Italy, so even if it doesn't give S Italian the Greek could be sea people from S. Italian who joined up with the Greeks, but still had Greek DNA like many still do in modern times.

    • @jessenicholas1909
      @jessenicholas1909 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@notsogreen like myself.. an Italian, Sicilian, Greek, Jew

  • @SparkytheBlade
    @SparkytheBlade ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Very interesting and well put together. Thank you.

  • @GenXstacker
    @GenXstacker ปีที่แล้ว +70

    Love this stuff. 20 years ago I used to subscribe to Biblical Archaeology Review and soaked up as much as I could, but this is a much more comprehensive and focused discussion than a few articles here and there. And the real kicker is the DNA research we are getting. I was surprised the other day to find out the closest living relatives to the ancient Assyrians are not modern Assyrians but Iraqi and Kurdish Jews. I'm guessing this is because they did not intermarry following the Muslim conquest.

    • @sarayfernandez-sf3kv
      @sarayfernandez-sf3kv ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The arameans ... They settle in SIRIA

    • @taisonzaya3653
      @taisonzaya3653 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Wrong the Assyrians from be4 are the Assyrians today,
      long live Assyrians!!!

    • @arronfrazier7873
      @arronfrazier7873 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Stop it! Your pushing bible mythology!

    • @zealmediaproductions844
      @zealmediaproductions844 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Where is Assyria ?

    • @Anna_Key
      @Anna_Key ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@zealmediaproductions844 the map at around 5:30 shows Assyria, it's north of Babylonia.

  • @lukeschreder2775
    @lukeschreder2775 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I have watched this three times in full in the last year. This is so well done and Seth is so enjoyable to listen to. His addition of the Arab point of view added so much respect and credibility, as well as his acknowledgement that some statements may be offensive to some, without shying away from what's to be said. top tier. Such a good hour of my time.

  • @garytucker8696
    @garytucker8696 4 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Egypt was the only country with grain stores at one point,possibly a lack of grain caused the sea peoples to attack.

    • @kamikazes03
      @kamikazes03 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      No, they were bronze age tourists who wanted to visit the pyramids...

  • @avirose194
    @avirose194 3 ปีที่แล้ว +41

    I thought that I knew all this history; but I learned so much more than I thought that I knew. Thank you so much.

    • @jilldent5514
      @jilldent5514 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The guy is wrong. Archaeology shows the Canaanites had the same culture as the Hebrews and were the Hebrews. 300 Hebrews went North, married European women and started the Ashkenazic group (but some Hebrews went to the Middle East). Most Arabs came to Israel (or the area) after 1870.

    • @JaneCooper190072
      @JaneCooper190072 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@jilldent5514 The Canaanites were to exterminated by Israel when they took over the land, they were mixed with the fallen angels. I have no idea where you're getting your info from.. Not saying this guy's accurate either, in fact I didn't watch much of this video at all, but the Canaanites *definitely* weren't Israel..
      300 Hebrews went North?? What ARE you talking about, most of Israel were scattered North of Assyria after the captivity, they went over the Caucasus mountains and are still to this day called Caucasians.

    • @jilldent5514
      @jilldent5514 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@JaneCooper190072 Jane. We have archaeology. You need to look at the newest findings. The Canaanites spoke Hebrew, had the same utensils, hairstyles, architecture, etc. s the Canaanites. If the Hebrews went in and exterminated people, you would see a quick change of culture in the archelogy- but you dont see this
      at all. You see a continuous civilization. When the Jews were kicked out Israel, some went to the Middle East- all over. The majority of Israelis are Middle Eastern. 300 Hebrews went north to Europe and started the Ashkenazic group.

    • @Qohelethful
      @Qohelethful 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@jilldent5514 I mean it’s true to some extent. Abraham did settle in Canaan and had a massive family group. It’s not logical to think that 100% of that massive family group and branch families all followed Jacob to Egypt after 3 generations of drift. So the groups that remained would be much more like the other Canaanites than the Israelites because the law had not been given yet.
      The major distinction is the construction of house’s that were uniquely Israelite, the lack of pork and like this guy said pottery. So sure, there were likely Abrahamic Proto-Israelites in Canaan for the entire time even if the Exodus happened exactly as described in the Bible.

    • @jilldent5514
      @jilldent5514 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Qohelethful Exodus didnt happen as it says in the Bible- at least that is not what archaeology says. The digs dont show a quick change of culture but the same PRE CULTURE. The Canaanites werent destroyed but the Hebews came out of Canaanite society. They had the same language, architecture., hair styles, utensils and even the same Gd- so basically the Hebrews are their descendants.

  • @cadenst.claire6211
    @cadenst.claire6211 3 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    Fascinating. I love history, but would have enjoyed your lecture even more if you hadn't gone through it at 90 miles an hour.

    • @drcsfox
      @drcsfox 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      You can slow down videos by changing the playback speed.

    • @cuchiakel
      @cuchiakel 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I quite agree. The lecture was wonderful, but information moved too fast. I suppose the lecturer had a limited amount of time to say all he had to say.

  • @ahmadghalia948
    @ahmadghalia948 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Are you aware that you are starting the historical hypothesis from the bible ?? And then you are trying to prove it with archeology?
    This is entirely a wrong biases methodology.
    What a fallacy!
    Please name this video as a marketing video, cuz it can not be at all scientific

  • @bentnotbroken4192
    @bentnotbroken4192 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    This is an excellent lecture…. Fascinating and disheartening at the same time…. The division in that region today stems from nothing more then ego and greed 😢

    • @birgip.m.1236
      @birgip.m.1236 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Welcome to humanity

    • @kashq502
      @kashq502 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      I would venture to say it's also a religious issue. Very different ideologies at play.

    • @gsaw5008
      @gsaw5008 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      True!!

    • @Funnyusername1234
      @Funnyusername1234 ปีที่แล้ว

      I would also add that the west is terrified of islamic unity and the fact that their birth rate is considerably higher than non-muslim and non-arab countries. This causes the fear and wars at any cost. Sad, really.@@kashq502

  • @DancingSk3L3tons
    @DancingSk3L3tons ปีที่แล้ว +10

    This was na amazing podcast thank you guys so much 🙌🏻👏👏👏

  • @curesoon
    @curesoon 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Ok, crazy thought: Is it possible that when the Bible says a "mixed multitude" came out with Israel, could these be the sea people leaving Egypt with Israel?
    KJV Exodus 12:37-38
    37 And the children of Israel journeyed from Rameses to Succoth, about six hundred thousand on foot that were men, beside children.
    38 And a mixed multitude went up also with them; and flocks, and herds, even very much cattle.

    • @sophiawilson8696
      @sophiawilson8696 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I think were Hyksos were kick out of Egypt that are Isrealities. And some were mix the Canaanities.

    • @karenbartlett1307
      @karenbartlett1307 ปีที่แล้ว

      The Sea Peoples invaded the nations bordering the Medeteranian long after the Exodus of the Jews from Egypt.

  • @havenofear7033
    @havenofear7033 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This is a unique, fast paced lecture that sharpens my perspective! I am studying the context for 1 Samuel 17 and this really helps fill in some gaps that my other research never touched on in such detail. Superb!

  • @benjaminperez1149
    @benjaminperez1149 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Very well presented and the research is exhaustive. Thank you!

  • @Nissenformed
    @Nissenformed ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Fantastic explanation of the topic. Learned a great deal watching this lecture.

    • @jacobpace2518
      @jacobpace2518 ปีที่แล้ว

      @nissenformed I would also recommend this video for a broader understanding of the topic: th-cam.com/video/bCn6v8X0Ebk/w-d-xo.htmlsi=79WIEVTzh7ChKLGj

  • @markusbroyles1884
    @markusbroyles1884 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Thanks for putting the illustrations and such out for the visuals. I can't bear looking at just the faces of presenters for an hour. This is an ENORMOUS topic. Glad to watch and learn thanks for all you do ~

    • @den264
      @den264 ปีที่แล้ว

      Enormous topic equally illustrated with an enormous Giant attacking a tiny frail David. I wonder if he does children's books also !

  • @ramaalazzeh7382
    @ramaalazzeh7382 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I am Palestinian and i have 4 percent dna from Cyprus and 2 percent Sardinia rest of my dna is levant

  • @JuanVenter-s8f
    @JuanVenter-s8f ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Thank you, I can listen to you as you state your sources and research very well. Very informative, and people on earth should know this.

    • @katherineharvey5663
      @katherineharvey5663 ปีที่แล้ว

      Isreal denied there own Messiah Jesus when he came to save them by dying on the cross. They could not wrap there minds around the face that God could come as a man to save them. And to this day most Jews do not acknowledge Jesus as God and there saviour

  • @SSB_Its_Me_SB
    @SSB_Its_Me_SB ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Nick, channel still grows even after your gone. Rest in peace brother

  • @JonoWarrior_K
    @JonoWarrior_K 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    I was reading Psalm 60 and it is very interesting that King David himself, referred to the area where the Philistines settled in verse 8 as "Philistia, triumph thou because of me". So, the Bible is referring to the south western coat as Palestine as rendered in English, then that means the term perceived by Greek bias is not very substantial. Yes, they did certainly call the land that, but King David came first. David - the enemy of the Philistines himself, named the land Palestine (or only the area around the five cities).

    • @luititoa4563
      @luititoa4563 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      but what about Jacob? His name was changed to Israel, and he has like 12 sons which is also the 12 tribes of Israel.

    • @ULEFOFANTULEFOFANT
      @ULEFOFANTULEFOFANT ปีที่แล้ว

      I'm not familiar with the Bible... Is it true that God told the Israelites to kill the Palestine tribe (and the Israelites didn't, which created today's 'problem')?! Anyone with Bible knowledge about this, please point me to the Bible verses to investigate., many thanks 🙏

    • @courtneyberrios5007
      @courtneyberrios5007 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ULEFOFANTULEFOFANT basically

  • @jackkelly1286
    @jackkelly1286 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I was going to mentioned the links between the Canaanites and the Israelites and the fact that the so called Israelis were well before the time of Mose's and the biblical stories of the Israelites that they were a breakaway group of Canaanites who left Canaan to start a new way of religious belief.. The rest is history. But you explain it far better than I. Great podcast.

  • @patrickfle9172
    @patrickfle9172 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    The fact that the egyptian source claims that the philistines were allowed to settle in the said region doesm"t logically exclude other distinct groups to be put there as well. So I'd consider equally likely that the Philistines were jusr one of the peoples whose DNA was found amongst others in the samples

    • @SonoftheAllfather
      @SonoftheAllfather 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Research the Battle of Djahy. It was a land battle fought in modern day Lebanon (Canaan). It was a preemptive strike by the Egyptians, not an invasion by the "Sea Peoples." Everything we think we know about the Philistines is completely twisted by Abrahamic zealots whose goal is not a quest for the truth, but to confirm their biblical narrative, which is obviously fabricated nationalist historiography.

  • @Excommunicated-ei1ep
    @Excommunicated-ei1ep 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Canaan would be the most neutral term, neither Palestine or Israel? Canaan or “the Holy Land”, which is more Christian than anything. But “Canaan” is THE most neutral term for the whole region of the Holy Land, not “Palestine” because Canaan is neither just Jewish, Christian or Muslim? Therefore neither Palestine, Israel or “the Holy Land”? So it covers ALL!

    • @razvan1282
      @razvan1282 ปีที่แล้ว

      Exactly. Phoenicians, scums of the earth.

    • @KyoshiKarlKWagner
      @KyoshiKarlKWagner ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The Arab people also use the term Levant for the whole area from Mediterranean to the Arab peninsula

    • @lydiacrisafi8745
      @lydiacrisafi8745 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Palestine was given as a slur against ppl they're in A D

  • @academicant6438
    @academicant6438 4 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    You both are history kings! Love the content! 💜

    • @saimbhat6243
      @saimbhat6243 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      With due respect, I will never take an Israeli university funded research on middle East as anywhere near truth.
      1.Firstly, history is always approximate and are mostly interpretations from raw and incomplete data. And Israel has obvious motivations for interpreting history in a certain way.
      2. I won't take a history lesson form scholar who considers biblical mythology as basis of their framework, not questioning it's historicity, and basically not believing it being mostly fiction, and then interpreting history by comparing it with biblical mythology.
      3. Historians will be doing a great disservice to history if they take religious texts written by god-fearing priests as a main source for recreating history.
      Did the red Sea split apart to give way for Moses? Or did moses' stick turn into snake and killed other snakes? Did Jacob wrestle with god? Did Solomon talk with animals? But if historians consider consider other parts of Bible as a source, why are there no thesis written about stick turning into snake?
      I am not saying that there is no history in religious texts, only I am saying is that they aren't a reliable source at all.
      It is like analogous to bringing "creationism" to " theory of evolution. " History may not be a complete and meaningful story, but it shouldn't be a fictional one.

    • @academicant6438
      @academicant6438 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@saimbhat6243 👍🏼

    • @mikuspalmis
      @mikuspalmis 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@saimbhat6243 What do you think of Ron Wyatt's archeological work?

    • @badgoy534
      @badgoy534 ปีที่แล้ว

      Not true, g-d called it Palestine in Joel 3:4. Palestine was named after the Arab deity Baal, hence Pali-Stan. Phelastin is just the semitic pronunciation of the name. Syria was named after his wife Ashyra/Assyra. The whole region Syria-Palestina.

  • @andykaufman7620
    @andykaufman7620 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I found it shocking that the same place Goliath comes from, the same place had troops that fought for King David and when David's son rebelled, they helped David, so if these are Philistines then it means King David was allies with the Philistines or they at least had 'mad respect' for him as a leader. You should talk about that topic and relationship. Also, about the Crete origin. You should have showed pottery from Crete, but why Crete. Think of it this way:
    The people living in what are called Philistines traded with Crete, then the volcano destroyed much of their civilization so a group of them immigrated to blend with the Philistines, but the Pleshette were already there, and they came there via a contract made with an Egyptian pharaoh who ultimately realized it better to put them on the edge, to act as a buffer state. So yes, you can see Minoan and Mycenaean but realize when you say 'Greek' you are really speaking of two separate groups and cultures blended in layers together, and later then blending into what we call Pleshette resulting in another layered blended society, like a Palimpsest.

  • @ahyaok100
    @ahyaok100 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Arabs didn't call themselves Palestinians. They're from the Arabian Peninsula where Islam came from. Jews have always had a presence around Jerusalem through every empire and conquest. With that said, I think human dignity, equality, and rights should trump everything always, but as long as religious differences and tribalism exists (and I'm not just talking about the Jews here) it's going to be a very hard road with a lot of senseless war.

    • @2up2down00
      @2up2down00 ปีที่แล้ว

      Islam came from the ottoman Turks

    • @2mexpesos
      @2mexpesos ปีที่แล้ว

      Islam is a doctrine of demons that's why they won't stop until they get rid of Jews and Christians as their Quran states.

    • @throwitatthewall6289
      @throwitatthewall6289 ปีที่แล้ว

      The land was taken by conquests. It has been attempted to take it back by conquest unsuccessfully. They can keep trying and keep losing but it doesn’t bode well for them.

    • @limitlesssky3050
      @limitlesssky3050 ปีที่แล้ว

      If Jews always existed there, who do you think the Palestinians as a culture are made of? Jews that are converted to Islam through force conversion most likely.

    • @ahyaok100
      @ahyaok100 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@2up2down00 lol no it didn't;. it started around 610 AD in the Arabian Peninsula

  • @costasakellariou3530
    @costasakellariou3530 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    and one more point to add...referring to the 'Palestinians' was IMPOSSIBLE in English language journalism of the 50's-80's. Editorially, it was always the 'Arabs', an 'Arab' village etc. Ever using the word Palestine or Palestinians was unheard of. I was working as a photojournalist for major news magazines in Europe and the US both and experienced this hostility to its usage many many times...

    • @Rtg5637
      @Rtg5637 ปีที่แล้ว

      Of course because these Arabs called themselves Southern Syrians.
      They themselves adopted the name of the Greek Philistines only in 1964 at the encouragement of Egypt, Arab League and Soviet KGB.
      They are so ignorant that unbeknownst to them this name originates from the ancient Canaanite language and means invaders.

    • @harambesson1098
      @harambesson1098 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I wonder why..

    • @cejannuzi
      @cejannuzi ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The Ottomans had no such problem.

    • @lemonhead9628
      @lemonhead9628 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@cejannuzi😂 For real though no problem being occupied by the ottoman empire, even though jews still lived in that area during that time, but all of a sudden when they collaspe and the british mandate gives them Jordan and gives the Jews, Israel then it's a problem, never mind the fact that Israel occupation stopped in Gaza a couple of years ago and they have their own government which they voted to be "Hamas".
      Isreal is the one that is giving them electricity, food, water, medicine and then their government attacks Isreal and is surprised when everything is cut off.

    • @Dolly-6782
      @Dolly-6782 ปีที่แล้ว

      Considering it was translated by the Romans than English I'm sure the translation was lost more or less.

  • @StoriesfromPalestine
    @StoriesfromPalestine 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    It's an assumption that Hadrian called the province Syriae Palaestina with an intention towards the Jews. It was a common term already since Herodotus to write about the area as Palaestina.

    • @thebeatnumber
      @thebeatnumber ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Before Hadrian It was called the Kingdom of Judea, not Palestine.

    • @tiggero6690
      @tiggero6690 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@thebeatnumber Judea was one of two small Jewish settlements / kingdoms within the much larger area designated as Palestine by Herodotus in his 5th century 'Histories'.

    • @thebeatnumber
      @thebeatnumber ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@tiggero6690 Herodotus is an unreliable historian. For example, he had no idea that Judea was part of a much larger United Kingdom of Israel long before it became a Kingdom in its own right in 586 BC.
      Also, there is no historian, whether in the ancient world or currently who recognises that there was ever a distinct people and culture called Palestinians.

    • @stephanprimeau6150
      @stephanprimeau6150 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​​@@thebeatnumberI do not think it is helpful to claim Palestinians are not a distinct people when clearly they are or to discredit Herodotus in order to give credence to a claim. Canaanites and Phoenicians were the first inhabitants of the Levant, millenia before the arrival of the Philistines and of Jews and the establishment of Judea. Considering Muslim Palestinians/Arabs and Jews are supposed to have common ancestors and speak semitic languages, why should one group be more entitled to the land?

    • @lydiacrisafi8745
      @lydiacrisafi8745 ปีที่แล้ว

      Correct and was an insulting term and not correct to 2nd comment

  • @jackiemaddox4577
    @jackiemaddox4577 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Enjoyed this video! Good info and you did give where to finde research. I’m looking forward to seeing more of your videos

  • @annebishop9634
    @annebishop9634 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    As a potter myself, pottery is always exciting.😉

  • @katesvensen2261
    @katesvensen2261 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Thank you for this post. It's fascinating and informative, especially coupled with my understanding of Egyptian history and language. Cush was Somalia. Where was Put? Is it the same as Punt (where Hatshepsut sent for myrrh trees)? This would be the Congo. It's amazing how far afield ancient civilizations interacted.

    • @Frodojack
      @Frodojack ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Put was Libya.

    • @nagameel7324
      @nagameel7324 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Cush was Ethiopia. Cush & Ethiopia both mean burnt face

    • @katesvensen2261
      @katesvensen2261 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@nagameel7324 you're right, of course. I was thinking of Nubia.

    • @nagameel7324
      @nagameel7324 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@katesvensen2261 yeah im sure the Nubians were of the same exact stock

    • @katesvensen2261
      @katesvensen2261 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@nagameel7324 don't be stupid. It was me misspeaking geographically. If you want to be a racist, do it somewhere else.

  • @mariareyna5481
    @mariareyna5481 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I appreciate your studies and learn of the two. Thank you!

  • @mujjuman
    @mujjuman ปีที่แล้ว +10

    The important part that I got out of this video is that modern Palestinians have 50% Canaanite DNA as do modern Israelis. Neither should have 100% claim to the land, therefore, the land needs to be shared between them whether it's a secular 1 state solution or 2 state solution. However, one has to wonder, who really does have more claim to the land: the people with 50% native DNA who left the land 1800-1900 years before they returned, or the people with 50% native DNA who never actually left?

    • @Benjamin-vm8di
      @Benjamin-vm8di ปีที่แล้ว

      Except you have Jews that never left the land, so if your logic is giving it to the people who never left the Jews get it.
      As for the 2 state solution, that was offered to the Palestinians about 7 times since the 1930s, and they refused each time.
      A 1 state solution is not possible at all.
      So, in all honesty, how are the Jews to have peace with the Palestinians? When at every turn the Palestinians refuse peace? They turned down every logical and realistic attempt at offering them land, and the Palestinian organisations such as Hamas outright call for the destruction of the Jews.

    • @liviuconstantin9960
      @liviuconstantin9960 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Jews didn't "left". They were forced out with the help of Roman Army. Those who escaped and remained were later subjugated by the Islamic Army.

    • @Tespri
      @Tespri ปีที่แล้ว

      What a low IQ claim. There is no example of Canaatite DNA. PAlestinians are pure arabs. Muslims don't convert people to Islam, they kill natives and replace them.
      "it's a secular 1 state solution or 2 state solution"
      Israel is secular state.
      Palestinians are pure monsters

    • @annoyingboringuseless
      @annoyingboringuseless ปีที่แล้ว

      Whom you call Palestinians today are spillover Arabs from West Jordan, Syria. There has never been any group/race which has direct lineage from any historical ascendants known as Palestinians. On the flip side Jews are and always will be the natural and original inhabitants of the land of Judea. Muslims have carved out tens of Islamic nation states from Christian and Hindu lands via war and conquests. Jews have but one tiny homeland and never subjugated others to steal land away from them. They were driven away by the intruders, mostly Muslims. If a group of thugs drive you away from your home and occupy the property as new owners, they do not become legal owners. Why won't your kids come and reclaim what is rightfully theirs? Where will they reside if not their homeland?
      There are no such race or people called Palestinians with any direct lineage to the ascendents that lived in those times, because there were none even then. The region (not the people) was on and off described as Palestine. The Palestinian identity is purely based on political lines drawn out by the British and have no historical race or descendant-based claims, unlike the 12 tribes of the Jewish people who originated from the lands of Judea, Samaria, Galilee and adjoining areas, which, like the Kashmiri pundits are the original inhabitants of the land from time immemorial.

    • @cuchiakel
      @cuchiakel 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@liviuconstantin9960 Not all of them left; many of them hid. A few years ago I saw an exhibition of First Century objects found in caves under Jerusalem, at the British Museum. I was impressed to see that they used forks, and there was a mirror made of polished metal. And I thought of the woman who looked at herself in that mirror, two thousand years ago... or may be it was a man. Fascinating.

  • @daviddoch4872
    @daviddoch4872 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Come. on guys. They found 108 Philistines Graves several years ago and you haven't mentioned any of the discoveries.

    • @kungfunoob2379
      @kungfunoob2379 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Exactly. This is what they are trying to avoid.

    • @Emcee_Squared
      @Emcee_Squared 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @TRUTH CENSORED DNA tests have already been done on the ancient philistines and canaanites look it up

    • @sophiawilson8696
      @sophiawilson8696 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @TRUTH CENSORED lie

    • @josekma1
      @josekma1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Truth is treason in an empire of lies

    • @dud3man6969
      @dud3man6969 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      This channel pushes an agenda for sure. I’ve seen other presentations that said the Philistines were some of the Sea Peoples from the Greek isles who settled in the Levant. Genetically, they were similar to Greeks to begin with. But since sex cult based religious practices were ubiquitous in that region at the time they mixed with everyone there like everyone else did.

  • @hezmckenzie
    @hezmckenzie ปีที่แล้ว +4

    So according to the biblical list of nations, the Caananites, Mizraim (Egypt), Philistines, the Babylonians, etc, have their origin through the lineage of Ham : If Ham was considered to be a black man, therefore aren't those of the Hamitic lineage considered Black people. So the original inhabitants of these lands were black people.

    • @tylerainsworth4542
      @tylerainsworth4542 ปีที่แล้ว

      We go by phenotypes
      And by dna percentage.
      Don't look black, DNA only part "black" many are Mostly Eurasian aswell. Arabs are really CAUCASIANS Europeans come from eurasia

    • @jacquelinewaller419
      @jacquelinewaller419 ปีที่แล้ว

      Wow. All White people in Africa. Hummm no Africans. Garbage.

  • @johnminshell6532
    @johnminshell6532 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The problem we have in England is People from all over the world enter the Country for a short period and “ assume “they are British.

  • @bobbiclay1100
    @bobbiclay1100 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I watched another show that said that there was a major volcanic eruption during the time of bronze age collapse which cause world wide climate change, earthquakes, tsunamis etc.

    • @almostthere6098
      @almostthere6098 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That and war at same time caused collapse and I think a famine from another video on the Sea people and Bronze Age

  • @cecileroy557
    @cecileroy557 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Thanks to both of you for all your hard work!!!

  • @RosieFbxAk
    @RosieFbxAk ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I just *discovered* this channel today, with this video. I've been desperately trying to understand the peoples involved in what's going on right now between Israel and Hamas, the Palestinians, etc.. I keep having to seek out info going back further and further. My ultimate hope is to understand who, where, how, what and work my way forward to now.
    Then I find this. THANK YOU!!! THANK YOU SO MUCH. It's not my treasure tribe of all the answers but it helps a lot. I don't know what this lecture is part of .. a course? A college focus? Whatever. Thank you for letting me in. I've subscribed to the channel and am super excited to delve into everything available. Thank you.

    • @RosieFbxAk
      @RosieFbxAk ปีที่แล้ว

      @@zirconblazer945 I don't care about blood purity, I'm looking to understand historical origins and how people came to be where they are today. I'm trying to understand the peoples and societies, not bloodlines.
      Also... jubes? izirill? Do you mean Jews? Israel?

    • @philw9787
      @philw9787 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      SPIRITUAL battle!!!

  • @kimberlyperrotis8962
    @kimberlyperrotis8962 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Cool music, I can imagine any ancient culture producing it. Thanks for all your great videos, I really enjoy them.

  • @kakama909
    @kakama909 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Philistine is Greek People from the Island of Creta. The Palestine is Arab People from Egypt, Jordan, and Syria

    • @munax-pd9tu
      @munax-pd9tu ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Lies

    • @imascrew6218
      @imascrew6218 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Mainly from Saudi ,they are sunis

    • @eggnoy
      @eggnoy 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Exactly

    • @jasjas6368
      @jasjas6368 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Why you lying?? Its a Well known history that palestinians share most dna with the cannan

    • @eggnoy
      @eggnoy 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @ is arafat palestinian?

  • @dylanpilcheruniverse6515
    @dylanpilcheruniverse6515 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Who could dislike this ? Amazing work!

  • @howardmillman4195
    @howardmillman4195 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Philistines were a sea faring people from the Greek Isle of Crete. There is no shared DNA with modern day "Palestinians". The could not be ancestors of modern "Palestinians" because they dissapeared or were absorbed into other cultures

  • @bluewater454
    @bluewater454 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Historic note.
    Something that I learned a few years back is that the Jews, although reduced in power by the destruction of Jerusalem did not abandon the land of Israel. In fact they remained a majority of the population in their historic homeland for several centuries afterward, and remained even after that as a minority up until the 19th century when they began purchasing land from the Arabic population to create settlements. There are families of Jews who never left Israel. They are called yishuv.

    • @silentwitness536
      @silentwitness536 ปีที่แล้ว

      Theyve never been the ethnic majority and still are not. This is why the Israeli maintain an apartheid state where only jews can vote.

    • @SketchyGhettoSpic
      @SketchyGhettoSpic ปีที่แล้ว

      True. This was explained to me by an university professor and scholar, but most neo-Nazis and Islamists and their Far Left allies don't want to hear this.

    • @den264
      @den264 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Did all the Giants abandon Israel, or did they stick around ! Is Bibi Netanyahu related to those giants ! And can you explain why the population of Palestine was only ten percent of the entire population living in Palestine in 1948 prior to Al Nakba if as you say "they were always the majority "

    • @bluewater454
      @bluewater454 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@silentwitness536Who was the ethnic majority in Israel in the first millennium?

    • @CaraCha212
      @CaraCha212 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That doesn't make any sense.

  • @FierceEnchanter
    @FierceEnchanter ปีที่แล้ว +2

    What a nonsensical video! Why did you only start with Goliath and David?
    The Philistines were already living in the region when it was called Canaan, which predates the arrival of the Israelites.
    Abraham, the grandfather of Jacob (Israel), was not a native of Canaan. He was born in Ur of the Chaldeans, located in present-day Mesopotamia or Iraq.
    When God commanded Abraham to migrate to Canaan, Abraham encountered a Philistine king named Abimelech. This indicates that the Philistines were already established and flourishing there long before Abraham's arrival.

  • @stephenchappell7512
    @stephenchappell7512 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    The Palestinians are as connected to Philistines as the Israelis are to Israelites meaning the link in both cases is tenuous at best.
    Instead of downplaying each others claims both should accept each others claim equally.

    • @1surfer12
      @1surfer12 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      tenuous, not tenacious

    • @ocevicheband502
      @ocevicheband502 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ashkenazim yiddish folks are a different mob.

    • @pikapi6993
      @pikapi6993 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      israelis are related to the Israelites. Judaism is an Ethnoreligion. The Philistines on the other hand were simply Greek people. The Palestinians are mostly a mix of Egyptians, Saudis, Jordanians, Kurds etc.

    • @stephenchappell7512
      @stephenchappell7512 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@pikapi6993
      Actually the people who call themselves Palestinian Arabs are of mostly crypto-Jewish extraction

    • @tiggero6690
      @tiggero6690 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@pikapi6993 I'm guessing you didn't bother to watch the video.

  • @wikilee8928
    @wikilee8928 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Thank you for sharing this important and precious information. I agree with you💯%. Millions of people are still living in lies and propaganda.

  • @ClintonOrtiz
    @ClintonOrtiz ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The names Palestininia (an ancient Roman-given name for the Holy Land) and Philistines do sound alike, however, my own research into it showed that what we today call Palestinians are actually descended from Jordanian nomads who camped in the Holy Land which after the Crusades became a trading route between Jordan, Egypt, and Syria. Jordanian traders, therefore, merely camped within the ancient borders of Israel, but seldom settled there because the land during that time was virtually a desert wasteland. Closer to the present time during the turn of the 19th and 20th centuries, the mostly Jordanian nomads and traders did begin to settle within ancient Israel and by the time the dream of "Zion" had began to foment within Jewish hearts and minds around the same time and leading up to the outbreak of World War II, there had grown quite a sizable population of those Jordanians (later called "Palestinians") within what was ancient Israel. The British Balfour declaration some decades earlier, however, had already declared that the Holy Land should finally be returned to the Jews. On May 14th, 1948, it was officially returned to the Jews and the so-called Palestinians revolted.

  • @arunj.gnanarathinam1412
    @arunj.gnanarathinam1412 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Amazing research & a splendid explanation 👏

  • @free_gold4467
    @free_gold4467 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Very good presentation, some difficult and thorny questions near the end- so many tangled layers and concepts.

  • @Anonymouse166
    @Anonymouse166 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    So you’re saying Greek DNA disappeared after 200 years but Lebanese have 90 percent Canaanite DNA?

    • @digenesakritas1107
      @digenesakritas1107 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      That's because the Philistines and Israelites were destroyed or taken in captivity by the Assyrians, the Babylonians(Chaldeans) or as in the case of Gaza Alexander the Great. Ekron destroyed by the Assyrians, Ashkelon destroyed by Nebuchadnezzar II, Ashdod destroyed by Nebuchadnezzar II and finally Gaza destroyed by Alexander the Great. South Canaan (modern day Israel) unlike North Canaan (modern day Lebanon) was a key location and connected Asia to Africa so endless wars were fought to control the trade routes.

    • @TheEvolver311
      @TheEvolver311 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@digenesakritas1107 not really only the ruling elites were sent into exile the average person never left.

  • @thebrocialist8300
    @thebrocialist8300 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Neolithic Farmers (EEF)->Philistines->
    Canaanites->Phoenicians->Punics
    (Local Palestinian population retains modest portion of native Canaanite ancestry; widespread introgression from various Levantine, African, Central Asian, European populations)

    • @Anonymouse166
      @Anonymouse166 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Slight Vertigo you’re generic ignorant

    • @Anonymouse166
      @Anonymouse166 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Slight Vertigo In 2021 and with the
      advances in genetics, it’s not considered smart to use biblical references while discussing history and ethnicities. If someone learns Arabic today doesn’t make him the son of İsmail. Re think how you do your research. The initial post comment got it right.

    • @abdelkarimhaddouchi4863
      @abdelkarimhaddouchi4863 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Anonymouse166 The Philistines are Canaanite, the sons of Jerusalem, that is their land
      We in North Africa also speak Arabic, but we are Berbers
      The Philistines are also Canaanites who speak Arabic, and that is their land

    • @abdelkarimhaddouchi4863
      @abdelkarimhaddouchi4863 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Slight Vertigo The Philistines are Canaanite, the sons of Jerusalem, that is their land
      We in North Africa also speak Arabic, but we are Berbers
      The Philistines are also Canaanites who speak Arabic, and that is their land

    • @razvan1282
      @razvan1282 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@abdelkarimhaddouchi4863 if you d really know who the Phoenicians are, you wouldn’t compare them to Philistinians.

  • @ME-yo4op
    @ME-yo4op ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Okay this is not 100% correct, yes some of the peoples or the west bank and Gaza are descended from the Israelites but it’s not proven or provable that they are related in anyway to the philistines.
    The philistines were mostly wiped my the Babylonians and the small amount that weren’t assimilated into Israelites/Judea. The philistines didn’t exist as a people after 5th century bce and so to say that the Palestinians are related is to or descended from is just wrong.
    Please do not confuse history and muddy the water to create a narrative. Some of the Palestinians may be descended from the Jews but so are the Jews.
    The Roman’s named the area Palestine to erase Jewish connection to the land after they kicked most of the Jews out. Palestinians never existed as a people and the region retained the name after by other conquerors of the land.
    But most of the people who call themselves Palestinians today are not these peoples descendants. See the land now called Israel today was mostly unpopulated for a very long time outside of the same number of Jews and Arabs that lived there. This changed on the late 1800s when the Jews started returning to the land, when the Arabs saw that they too flooded the land once the Jews started to develop the land. So most of the “Palestinians” that you are talking about are simply Arabs, same do carry the lineage but not many. So when you speak about DNA testing you’re not talking about the majority of them.
    Thank you

  • @KinseiSensei
    @KinseiSensei ปีที่แล้ว +10

    TLDR: “people living in a place they call Philistine for the last 2,000 years are not actually Philistines because they don’t have the letter P, and we changed the name. Oh yeah and they have mixed ethnicity”

  • @moosa9850
    @moosa9850 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    When you mentioned Xhaam, just expand on that, the so called bushmen in South Africa mentions and some cal themselves Xam pronounced Gaam, and say they are the decendants of Xhaam son of Noah (peace and blessings be upon them both)

  • @lynderezer3744
    @lynderezer3744 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Loved this, thank you so much. 1st time viewer. I'm going to go back to the beginning of your historical lectures and watch them all. Love Ancients Biblical history

  • @j.d.376
    @j.d.376 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    So what you're saying is the people now considered 'Palestinian" have been there since the time of the Canaanites. Through the years their blood lines mixed the invading armies of the day. The same goes for the jews. They also share that ancient Canaanite blood line along with the native blood of those from the lands the exiled jews inhabited during the diaspora. In the end, we're talking cousins here. This is absolutely amazing. Let the world understand so we can finally put all this violence behind us.

  • @hasoloansinaga6772
    @hasoloansinaga6772 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Excellent.
    The Philistine DNA had links to DNA of Grrece, Crete and Sardinia. The Philistine's DNA was not related to the Canaanites.

    • @razvan1282
      @razvan1282 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Finally someone who knows what he s talking about. The Phoenicians have nothing to do with Philistinians.

  • @annieyahu676
    @annieyahu676 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    Love to listen to commentary on history, even though, many times I do not always agree. I believe , that Israel wanted a king like the surrounding nations had appointed. These kings where of bloodlines that are questionable in today's society. Most were very powerful and stood very very tall. Much like Goliath, they were considered of Nephilim mixed blood. Several of the Ceasars stood at Eight feet tall. King Charlemagne was documented to be 8'-1" tall. There are many more that are mentioned in ancient history also. Israel rejected Yahuah - YHWH of the Bible and wanted a physical large man king. This is the reason for YHWH sending the prophet Samuel to anoint Saul as a king for Israel. Saul stood head and shoulders taller than other men... as the Bible states. Israel would receive a very flawed human man now as king... because of their sin in rejecting their wise and loving Creator. With time, Saul would show his flaws and it would cost him and his son the crown. Then David was chosen by YHWH for the people. He was not of overly large proportions, but had a heart after YHWH. He was however a flawed man. And being flawed was a lesson for all humans .. to rely on our Creator, and not on ourselves. 😊 Praise Yahusha Jesus, Praise Yahuah Always ❤

    • @emmettdonkeydoodle6230
      @emmettdonkeydoodle6230 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The mashiach was never a divine figure. Jesus didn’t believe he was divine either. It was pagan belief that distorted this because, to them, humans could be divine and the children of gods

    • @DesertAres
      @DesertAres ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Cue Twilight Zone Music

    • @natanzel4
      @natanzel4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      You're facts are way off base. What evidence do you have that Charlemagne was 8.1 ft tall? According to a multidisciplinary team of scientist in 2010, he was no taller than 6.4 ft.

    • @natanzel4
      @natanzel4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Again, several of rhe Caesars were over 8 ft tall??? You're delusional mate.

    • @WhitePineInvestments-q7m
      @WhitePineInvestments-q7m ปีที่แล้ว

      Your “wonderful lecture” is detached from reality and/or facts. Don’t you think you should research better in order not to come accross as a clown?

  • @lubnaazmi2525
    @lubnaazmi2525 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    While we can agree on the archeological and DNA evidence presented, as a Palestinian, I wish to point out that I wholeheartedly disagree that we only began identifying ourselves as Palestinian only after 1967 and that previous to that, we identified as Jordanian or Syrian. Individual people quoting as such is not "evidence" and one person's opinion does not represent the whole people's. My father (born in Hebron in 1944) and my grandparents who i was fortunate to visit before they passed in occupied Hebron, have always identified themselves as Palestinan; not Syrian and not Jordanian. While Arabs in the levant have many things in common, only the people from Palestine, Syria, Jordan and Lebanon, who are proud of their unique identities, can tell you the differences between the cultures in each of these countries' regions. Finally, if over 50% of our DNA proves we are descendents of the Caananites, why are we denied the right to the land from which my ancestors never left, whereas a jew whose ancestors date back hundreds of years to a European country can lay claim to this land tomorrow.

  • @lilamayoral1031
    @lilamayoral1031 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Simple things you can do today go to a Greek restaurant and to Arabic restaurant and see how similar the menu is..if you like Baklava,? You find it in both places.. Greeks used honey and Arab whatever sirup probably because they struggled more, Gyro/Shwarma.. same thing pita , Moussaka ? Ezt ezt the DNA disappeared but the taste remains...

    • @tiggero6690
      @tiggero6690 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ottoman Empire, my dear...

    • @lilamayoral1031
      @lilamayoral1031 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@tiggero6690 44 times my dear Jerusalem have been captured and Recapture

  • @garytucker8696
    @garytucker8696 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Lebanon the cedar forests Enki and Gilgamesh the bull of heaven.

  • @HM-mw7cg
    @HM-mw7cg 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    I’m three quarters through this but I really think this guy is overestimating the dna of a large portion of Jews in modern Israel. It’s been shown that so many have only a fraction of ancient dna from this region and are in fact now majority European

  • @am7535
    @am7535 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Romans didn’t rename Judea Palestina; it was already Syria-Palestina since Greek Herodotus 450BC and Judea remained Judea but as a region no more as a kingdom; that’s all.

  • @olgaroche2929
    @olgaroche2929 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Thank you ❤ Very good information! As child I witnessed Jews saying I am going to Palestine, to my country! So their country was Palestine and they were happy with that, but now!

    • @sandraswift3489
      @sandraswift3489 ปีที่แล้ว

      They were rediscovering their country and roots.after Holocaust and 2000 yr old exile by romans

    • @alexae1367
      @alexae1367 ปีที่แล้ว

      It was before the Romans sent Syrians to Judea, to block them from returning, that it was Judea. They named it Syria Palestina, at the same time as they invented anti-semitism. If it didn't start with Jews supposedly killing jesus, then where would it have come from? Why would we be talking about that particular place as being where Israel should be, if they never lived there first?
      But everyone's in such a hurry, they almost never go to the beginning of a story.
      This doesn't mean we don't have to care about Palestinian humanity by any means.
      But when people telling history don't go to the beginning of stories, it can terribly confuse them as to how we can ethically proceed

    • @Xaroni
      @Xaroni ปีที่แล้ว +5

      It was called Palestine when it was a no-man's land! The land of Israel was named Palestine by thd Romans. It has nothing to do with the Arabs!!! Also the Philistines have Nothing to do with the Arabs, now calling themselves Paestinans (due to great publicity repackaging of the Egyptian born and raised, Yasser Arafat in the 1960s. The PLO was the Palestine Liberation Organisation, not the Palestinian liberation organisation.
      The Philistines were of Greek origin and they were extinct by the time of Jesus!!!
      'They', the Jews weren't happy about their land being called Palestine... they just accepted it. As soon as they liberated 'Palestine' they gave it its name back. Israel.

    • @mycharmedunicorn8715
      @mycharmedunicorn8715 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Xaronithank you for straightening that out!

    • @omaral-khatab9192
      @omaral-khatab9192 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Xaronistop lying 🤥
      Palestinians people being living there for centuries and still living and fighting cowards landnappers (Israel)
      🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸🚀🚀🚀

  • @brianstone5668
    @brianstone5668 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    BCE vs BC. I was most excited running into this channel as it appeared to be a factual exploration of history. Then we get the "BCE" time reference.
    People lose the spirit of history because their stifled by offense, that in the end, they also lose their audience. ..By

    • @Charleroi92
      @Charleroi92 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      What would you say to those who disagree with writing B.C? What are they goats? Or are you the only one who should be respected? The way I see it, only one religion requires it to be written "b.c" whereas all the other peoples have no issue with BCE. The majority wins, therefore BCE stays.
      Besides, B.C is religious. b.c.e is scientific (as it makes no claims to refer to before or after the year of someone's lord, but simply refers to the common era).
      That is real respect. Saying b.c. and then getting offended when others won't isn't respect, it's childish and it shows the Christian need to always be persecuted in action.

    • @jalsr.speak2379
      @jalsr.speak2379 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      ​@@Charleroi92Pretty hateful comment.

    • @medalaeeladlani5683
      @medalaeeladlani5683 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@Charleroi92I don't know why we use Christ as a reference.

    • @stephanprimeau6150
      @stephanprimeau6150 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@Charleroi92In my opinion, BCE is vague and should not be used. "B.C." stands for before (the birth) Christ and is more precise since "0" is used as a reference. Anything before is B.C. and anything after is A.D. or "Anno Domini Nostri Iesu Christi" or Latin for the year of our Lord Jesus Christ.

  • @clivewells7090
    @clivewells7090 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    David only knocked out Goliath with his slingshot and then used Goliath's own massive sword to cut off his head.

    • @kevinmulcahy7991
      @kevinmulcahy7991 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I don't know, I wasn't there.

    • @jonathanbarnes3061
      @jonathanbarnes3061 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Stone sunk into skull,💀
      Goliath was D.O.A. once
      he hit the ground.

    • @lmabadie
      @lmabadie ปีที่แล้ว

      and that is the most controversial "fact" you found in all this video?

    • @glentorn5362
      @glentorn5362 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Folk tales are not history.

    • @miniemouseminiemaney3562
      @miniemouseminiemaney3562 ปีที่แล้ว

      😂

  • @joalexsg9741
    @joalexsg9741 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Excellent video, the sheer historical facts which honest historians will confirm but there's also the case of the b'nei anussim of the region (the ones Arabized and Islamized, unlike those of Iberian origin like myself who were converted to Christianity to save their lives in the Portuguese harbor as they had lost the last ships leaving that nation after the expulsion), whom Tsvi Misinai wrote about in his book and makes wonderful videos about here on TH-cam telling their stories!
    Todah rabah ve kol hakavod, from a Brazilian ben anusssim who loves Eretz Israel!

  • @gordiasgordian925
    @gordiasgordian925 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    The last third of the video concerned modern history of the area but it held my attention nonetheless. I agree with his ultimate conclusions of Philistines vs Palestine vs Israel.

  • @feb111980mhh
    @feb111980mhh 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Thank you!

  • @vin.handle
    @vin.handle 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Thanks for the information. Where do the Phoenicians fit in? Are they related to the Philistines?

    • @Alexandroslav
      @Alexandroslav 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      The Phoenicians are the northern cananites that were left outside of israel and phillistia.
      Mainly Lebanon.
      You can say that predominantly in the 13th century bce the cananites split in to two major parts, the North and South, the South became israelites and the North into Phoenicians.

    • @vin.handle
      @vin.handle 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Alexandroslav Thank you. That was informative.

    • @ermioniburgess8720
      @ermioniburgess8720 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Alexandroslav Greeks called the Phoenician Sidonians because of Sidon.

    • @Alexandroslav
      @Alexandroslav 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@ermioniburgess8720 Phoenicians is the Greek name that was used and eventually adopted and kept on.
      Though yes, sidonians is also a term that was used, if you'll pay attention to the biblical text - sidonians is actually the name that the biblical authors call them.

    • @bellaschilling7758
      @bellaschilling7758 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      No they’ not ...they are Greek...

  • @09renovator
    @09renovator ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Fascinating scholarship. I wish I had had access to maps like his one of Saul's conquests when I was taught religious studies at school. I had zero idea of where folk like the Moabbites, Amelekites etc. hailed from which would have given context for instance when learning that Jael wife of Heber invited the captain of the Amelekites into her tent and once he fell asleep hammered a tent peg into his skull. Put another way, nowadays there is an infinite amount of educational content on TH-cam which we are all blessed in being able to access at a time and place to suit us.

  • @mabroukatis
    @mabroukatis ปีที่แล้ว +7

    You mixed up the interchangeable F/P in Arabic with Egyptians.
    In Egyptian dialect we have inherited a P/B mixup from our ancient language (we have both). The Arabic interchangeable F/P is Arabic not Egyptian (you should know how different ethnicities they are). For example, in Arabic the Persian language ("Parsi" as called by natives) is spelled and pronounced "Farsi" in Arabic.

    • @davidtrak2679
      @davidtrak2679 ปีที่แล้ว

      You have P in Masri?

    • @mabroukatis
      @mabroukatis ปีที่แล้ว

      @@davidtrak2679 yes we do, but in our slow transformation to Arabic over a millenia we adopted Arabic alphabet which cannot differentiate so although we still pronounce it in its specific uses, but we don't see it in writing anymore. For example word for Saturday is سبت. Syrians (semitics) pronounce it "sah-be", but Egyptians pronounce it as "sapt". But we cannot pronounce it in every word and quickly switch to B. Sometimes we cannot pronounce B and convert to P like in Ballet or Bravo , depending on the locality.
      But if you ask most Egyptians if they do, they'll check alphabet (Arabic) and tell you they don't. But in previous writing systems (demotic, coptic, etc) there was such distinction.
      FYI, Egyptian dialect is unintelligible to Arab speakers unless they're exposed to its cultural products like movies and songs etc. For example, American Iraqis who don't have such exposure cannot understand Egyptian dialect (not a word, I relaized personally) but Iraqis in Iraq can because of their heavy exposure to Egyptian dialect since childhood.

    • @davidtrak2679
      @davidtrak2679 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mabroukatis Well "sapt" is an interesting one.
      Because first of all, it ends with a "t" so there may be assimilation of "b" to "p" when it ends with "t".
      The question is if Egyptians can pronounce "p" in other place, like "Pa ndemic"?
      It has been shown that even Levantine Arabic speakers can pronounce "p" in such places, because of assimilation, though not anywhere else.
      Second of all, "sabeh" is the Semitic form of seven. So the "b" in it would be the original.
      That means if Egyptians say "p" in "sapt",
      it shows they changed the original "b" to "p".
      And it's more likely that it is because of assimilation - "b" then "t" turns into "p".
      But if the "sapt" is derived from the Indo-European "Sept" (like in September), maybe through Coptic and its relations to Greek, which greatly influenced Egyptian masri Arabic, then the Masri word is actually a completely another word, deriving from a different language system,
      and only seems to be related to Semitic "sabeh" - and the "p" of "sapt" is the original

    • @mabroukatis
      @mabroukatis ปีที่แล้ว

      @@davidtrak2679 i didn't say sabeh (did i? Mistake) i was writing sabet سبت שבת. You made some irrelevant tangential speculations about seven or september.
      I was merely explaining in my original comment that egyptian interchangeable P/B is different from ethnic Arabs interchangeable P/F

    • @davidtrak2679
      @davidtrak2679 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mabroukatis Yeah you said sahbe, but the reason why you pronounce it as sapt is still directly related.
      If you do not have an independent 'p' then this 'p' is directly because of assimililation (in Syrian there's no 't' there so no assimilation), and I wouldn't say you guys have 'p', other than merely a allophonic phenomenon of assimilation.
      If you guys say 'pravo' instead of 'bravo' that still can be just hypercorrection and says nothing about the existence/inexistence of 'p' in Masri Arabic.
      if you guys can say words like 'pa ndemic', or have a regular occurence where Arab words have 'p' instead of 'b' (in the same place in the word, not similar words but identical), then you truly have a 'p' in Masri, otherwise it's just an artifact of speech
      The שבע/Septem thing may describe the difference between the dialects, but as I said it's most probably assimilation