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Destruction of the USS Wasp by Japan’s Top Submarine Ace.
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 3 พ.ย. 2022
- The Allied landing on Guadalcanal on 7 August had caught the Japanese by surprise, so there were no Japanese submarines in the area. The Japanese quickly rectified their initial lack of submarines in this sector.
By the end of August 1942, nine Japanese submarines were patrolling the area south and southeast of Guadalcanal. One of these subs was commanded by a man that would become Japan's top sub ace, his name was Takaichi Kinashi and he commanded I-19. At 10:45 on 15 September he had a report of an allied convoy hedging in his direction. Soon Kinashi saw numerous smoke stacks on the horizon. He dived and set I-19 on an intercept course with the convoy.
As Kinashi looked through his telescope, he could see a large convoy escorted by carriers, battleships and numerous destroyers. He fired his salvo of six torpedos and dived as deep as he could to try and avoid detection. Although Kinashi didn't know it at the time, this would become the most destructive salvo in submarine history. Within the space of a few minutes Kinashi would half the number of operational fleet carriers available to the U.S. navy and badly damage America's newest and most powerful battleship.
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Easily the most important salvo ever fired. When you look at the damage done and the consequences at that time. Leaving only one operational US carrier; taking out one of the few fast battleships available at that time for nearly 3 months of the most critical year of the war, its not even a debate.
Declassified documents from the 1970's show that the WASP task force was patrolling in known sub-infested Japanese waters due to a transcription error of a classified message. The ships never should have been in that area to begin with. My uncle was a Storekeeper where the third torpedo that broached the surface hit. He was lost along with many others.
The sinking of the ARA General Belgrano could also content for the most devastating, the Argentines withdrew their entire navy and did not take part in the war thereafter. The sinking of the General Belgrano played an enormous part leading to the British victory, more so than the sinking of the US carrier imo.
The Royal Navy was actually hunting for Argentina's aircraft carrier but came upon the heavy cruiser.
That amuses me. The Argentine Navy was nothing but targets. They showed sense in pulling back. I guess you brits always think its all about you.
Well, for a couple hundred years, it was; all about them@@gruntforever7437
Boy, were the Americans so lucky to adopt German U-boat tactics, instead of the Japanese. Otherwise they'd be completly screwed.
Why didn't the IJN make more submarines? They seemed to have an edge on the Allies..
Japan does not have the industrial capacity, economy and natural resources to build more submarines, ships or planes, on top of that, the Japanese navy and army compete with the meager resources that Japan have at that time.
Scarce Japanese resources. Japanese planes carried higher priority.
The loss of the USS Wasp was a serious loss at a time the US could ill afford the loss of a carrier in the South Pacific. The Japanese sub commander that torpedoed the USS Indianapolis killed many more sailors. For loss of life from a submarine attack, I do not think the USS Wasp is in the top 10.
If you interpet most devastating as having the most influence on the outcome of the pacific war. Then the sinking of one of just two remaining operational fleet carriers and most powerful battleship then in service (temporary loss) at the most crucial time in the pacific campaign. This can’t compare to the impact of IJN Shinano or USS Indianapolis sinking in the last months of the war.
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Interesting. But also remember that U.S.S Wasp had design flaws that played into her downfall when I-19 hit her.
It's impossible to say whether she would have survived had she the same protection as a Yorktown Class. But her lack of protection certainly contributed to the speed of her demise.
meh, flaws or tradeoffs?
Sounds like you're coping a lot.
its not actually a design flaw, the reason for its thinned skinned is brought about by the world treaty that limits the tonnage of each navy.
Excellent video.
Glad you liked it!
My uncle perished on the Wasp.
While it might be true on account that the japanese sub sunk Wasp and one destroyer and damaged North Carolina with one salvo, I would ammend the phrase "most devastating submarine salvo in history". USS Archerfish sunk the japanese carrier Shinano with a similar salvo of 6 torpedoes. And Shinano, at 72000 tons (69000 after some other sources, although she was the sister ship of Yamato and Musashi and as such probably having the same displacement) , was more than 4 times bigger than USS Wasp and USS O'Brien combined. Not to mention the loss of life on the Shinano was around 1400 of their 2400 sailors.
If you interpret most devastating as having the most influence on the outcome of the pacific war. Then the sinking of one of just two remaining operational fleet carriers and most powerful battleship then in service (temporary loss) at the most crucial time in the pacific campaign. This can’t compare to the impact of the IJN loosing one of many unusable carriers due to lack of trained pilots at the end of the war, when all was already lost.
But the shinano is a setting duck for all we know. What the archer sunk is merely a floating steel with people inside still trying to make it work and is yet to become an asset in the battlefield. In short, shinano at the time of the sinking is only in transit and not yet fielded into battle owing to its unfinished constructions. Shinanos only virtue is its mass of steel albeit more of a liability than an asset. Wasp, North Carolina and Obrien on the other hand are a fully commissioned warship with their battlefield assignment.
USS Indianapolis copped it as well!
The Japanese aircraft had no self sealing fuel tanks or armour, so would always have higher casualties than the US
I have studied the story of I-19 in the past, but never really gotten all the details here. Thanks for the extended information. Do you have any extra details on on I-400, I-401 & I-402?
Stories and Battle Histories of the IJN's Submarines. www.combinedfleet.com/sensuikan.htm#tromsi
Would these actions if done by an American be worth a Medal of honour?
I really enjoy your channel, however don't care for the AI commentary.
Just saying...
i believe that the i-19 did not hit the north carolina and the o'brien, as they were hit on the port side, while wasp was hit on the starboard side. i believe the i-15 did the damage to the north carolina and o'brien. she was sunk a few weeks later, and her logs lost so we do not know if she made an attack or not, but she was there, and it is not possible that a single spread of torpedoes fired at two groups of ships moving in the same direction would hit on opposite sides, as no sudden course changes were made before the torpedoes were spotted. it is a bit of a shame that the i-15 was lost without getting the credit for this action.
Not saying this is wrong but in weeks of research I never came across this theory.
@@WorldWar2inColours it was the original theory put forth by most historians up to the 80's, such as morrison.
also, i might add, i felt this theory, when it came out in an article titled "who done it?", was good. everything seemed to add up, until irealizes that the torpedoes hit the wasp on the starboard side and north carolina on the port. since no course changes were made before sighting the torpedoes, north carolina could not have reversed course before being hit, and should have been hit on the starboard by the same spread.
@@WorldWar2inColours it is the original theory put forth by morrison and other historians up to the 80's. it was an article by a naval officer (i cannot remember his name) titled "who done it?" that put forth this theory. and i thought it good at first, he presented a good case for it. but i felt for a long time something just did not add up. then it hit me, the wasp and north carolina were hit on opposite sides, but they were steaming on the same base course, and no course changes were made before the torpedoes were seen. i do not say it could not have happened as presented, but this seems to indicate another possibility.
But the I 15 reported the result of the I 19 attack to general headquarters and the I 15 did not include in its report about firing any torpedoes at all.
@2:30 he says 21 inch type 95 and 24 inch torpedo’s. Is he referring to the diameter ?
Yes, 24 inch was ship launched, 21 inch submarine and 18 inch air launched.
Never knew my battleship NC was stroke during the war.
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Ineffectual..? You mean ineffective.
what happened to him
Very similar to what happened to commander in chief, admiral Yamamoto. The Americans used Ultra signals intelligence to obtain his route back home to Japan from France and set an ambush for him using 3 radar equipped subs in the narrow Luzon Strait in the Philippines.
@@WorldWar2inColours thank youu
Well what happened to him? What a crappy way to end a documentary.
The documentary was about the devastating attack of I-19. In research for the documentary, I came across the interesting story of Kinashi and went into a little detail about him. I might make a documentary about him if there is interest. His end was very similar to what happened to commander in chief, admiral Yamamoto. The Americans used Ultra signals intelligence to obtain his route back home to Japan from France and set up an ambush for him using 3 radar equipped subs in the narrow Luzon Strait in the Philippines.
Don't forget ARCHER FISH vs SHINANO.
you must have read my mind, that's the exact project I'm working on at this moment.
But USS Archerfish fired at and hit only one ship, the Shinano. I-19 sank the USS Wasp, mortally wounded the USS O’Brien and blew an 18 square foot hole in USS North Carolina.
@@williampaz2092 Would we trade the WASP for the SHINANO?
USS Wasp (CV-7) was a United States Navy aircraft carrier commissioned in 1940 and lost in action in 1942. She was the eighth ship named USS Wasp, and the sole ship of a class built to use up the remaining tonnage allowed to the U.S. for aircraft carriers under the treaties of the time. As a reduced-size version of the Yorktown-class aircraft carrier hull, Wasp was more vulnerable than other United States aircraft carriers available at the opening of hostilities. Wasp was initially employed in the Atlantic campaign, where Axis naval forces were perceived as less capable of inflicting decisive damage. After supporting the occupation of Iceland in 1941, Wasp joined the British Home Fleet in April 1942 and twice ferried British fighter aircraft to Malta.
Wasp was then transferred to the Pacific in June 1942 to replace losses at the battles of Coral Sea and Midway. After supporting the invasion of Guadalcanal, Wasp was hit by three torpedoes from Japanese submarine I-19 on 15 September 1942. The resulting damage set off several explosions, destroyed her water-mains and knocked out the ship's power. As a result, her damage-control teams were unable to contain the ensuing fires that blazed out of control. She was abandoned and scuttled by torpedoes fired from USS Lansdowne later that evening. Her wreck was found in early 2019.
Shinano (信濃) was an aircraft carrier built by the Imperial Japanese Navy (IJN) during World War II, the largest such built up to that time. Laid down in May 1940 as the third of the Yamato-class battleships, Shinano's partially complete hull was ordered to be converted to an aircraft carrier following Japan's disastrous loss of four of its original six fleet carriers at the Battle of Midway in mid-1942. The advanced state of her construction prevented her conversion into a fleet carrier, so the IJN decided to convert her into a carrier that supported other carriers.
Her conversion was still not finished in November 1944 when she was ordered to sail from the Yokosuka Naval Arsenal to Kure Naval Base to complete fitting out and transfer a load of 50 Yokosuka MXY7 Ohka rocket-propelled kamikaze flying bombs. She was sunk en route, 10 days after commissioning, on 29 November 1944, by four torpedoes from the U.S. Navy submarine Archerfish. Over a thousand sailors and civilians were rescued and 1,435 were lost, including her captain. She remains the largest warship ever sunk by a submarine
@@heretoforeunknown "Would we trade Archerfish for Shinano?"
No. Shinano was a very poorly constructed carrier conversion. The portals for the absent watertight doors were warped, and the ship suffered numerous isolation problems within her bulkheads.
@@Kwaj The WASP was also very poorly constructed. USS Wasp (CV-7) was a United States Navy aircraft carrier commissioned in 1940 and lost in action in 1942. She was the eighth ship named USS Wasp, and the sole ship of a class built to use up the remaining tonnage allowed to the U.S. for aircraft carriers under the treaties of the time. As a reduced-size version of the Yorktown-class aircraft carrier hull, Wasp was more vulnerable than other United States aircraft carriers available at the opening of hostilities. Wasp was initially employed in the Atlantic campaign, where Axis naval forces were perceived as less capable of inflicting decisive damage. After supporting the occupation of Iceland in 1941, Wasp joined the British Home Fleet in April 1942 and twice ferried British fighter aircraft to Malta.
"(M)ost devastating submarine salvo in history"
Not even the most devastating in the Pacific and as much as I am curious if the author discovered anything of which I am unaware regarding this action the ridiculous hyperbole means everything else in this piece may be exaggerated or overblown as well.
your right the salvo you mentioned is the one that did the most damage.
Respectfully, do you know of a more devastating submarine torpedo salvo from WW2?
@@williampaz2092 There's no other submarine I'm aware of that sank a carrier, a destroyer, and knocked out a battleship for 2½ months in just one torpedo spread.
When we were in a death struggle at Guadalcanal and everything was in the balance this Sub did more critical damage in one shot then the whole IJN had done at that time