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This is the story of british Airways flight 888. On the 11th of may 1976 a british airways 747 was on its way from london to melbourne with stops in bahrain bangkok and kuala lumpur. Fun fact this flight was operated by the BOAD or the british airways overseas division, I did not know that they had an entire separate division for their overseas operations. We join flight 888 on at night as it makes its way from bangkok to kuala lumpur with 104 people on board. The captain was the one flying and tonight he’d be landing on runway 15 at Kuala lumpur’s Subang international airport . Before the plane started its descent into Kuala Lumpur the crew went over the VOR approach to runway 15.
This approach called for them to overfly the VBA VOR, it was situated 15 nm from the threshold of runway 15 and 1 nm to the north of the extended centerline. They had to pass the VBA vor at atleast 2000 feet after that they could head towards the NM beacon which was on the runway’s extended centerline. You had to maintain 860 feet as you passed over the NM beacon and only start descending when you had the runway insight and when you were on the glideslope. With the briefing out of the way the crew calibrated their altimeters and their radio altimeters, their radio altimeters would start warning them when they were at about 866 feet above the ground. It would start making a sound at 866 feet and then as they descended it would grow louder till they hit 791 feet.
Soon the approach was under way the plane over flew the VBA VOR and the runway lights shone in the dark landscape, guiding the plane towards the airport. Having passed the VBA VOR the plane descended down to about 860 feet near their decision altitude. A warning sound played indicating that they were near their decision height. As this warning buzzed in the background the captain called for flaps 20 and for the gear to be lowered. Flaps are these surfaces that extend from the trailing edge of the wing, they help the plane generate more lift at low speeds. They come out in increments, for example at the flaps one setting they come out a little bit then at the flaps 5 setting a little bit more, and even more at flaps 10. You get the idea. As the gears came down one of the landing gear warning light became dislodged from its holder socket and so the flight engineer had to verify the status of the gear on his panel. Thus disrupting his checklist. The captain doesn't notice this but no one extended the flaps to 20. Neither pilot replied with flaps 05 confirming that they had done what the captain had asked nor did the captain follow up on this.
As the plane approached the NM beacon the plane was carrying a bit too much speed as no one had extended the flaps, the flaps generate a lot of drag, ideally the speed should be a bit slower, so now the captain was doing three things at once, he had to line the plane up with the runway, maintain altitude and find a way to lose some speed.
The plane was nearing the NM beacon and slowly the huge 747 started descending, the pilots in the cockpit were unaware of what their plane was doing. The plane overflies the NM beacon and the captain calls for flaps 25, the first officer asks in a confused voice “25 from 10?” remember he had not heard the call to extend the flaps to 20. So hes confused about the captain skipping flaps 20. But the captain didnt reply to the first officers query. In the cockpit each pilot went back to what they had been doing, the captain flew the plane, the first officer - วิทยาศาสตร์และเทคโนโลยี
It's fortunate they were rubber trees really - just bounced off them 😏
I see what you did there 😏😂
That's why the planes are called Boings
@@chasarr i swear i just found the best fucking pun on the internet burried down among youtube comments
Whoops there goes another rubber tree plant!
@@chasarr
I'm waiting for some Internet scholar to come along and say "herp-derp but it's spelt Boeing!" 😂
Excellent pun sir, did make me chuckle!
I was on a go around on a 747 on approach to Heathrow a few years ago as we were just about to land - very impressive change in trajectory when those four engines roar up. My Japanese seat mate was bawling her eyes out!
Sound quality has improved noticeably from what it was 2-3 months ago. Content is excellent as usual. And not being afraid to revise and reupload if necessary is respectable.
Amazing story. Loving your channel! So many incidents I'm just learning about. 👏
Lol I like watching ur vids before i go too sleep cause you have a very awesome story telling voice lmao
0:22 listen to the lyrics of ''Back in the U.S.S.R.' by the The Beatles :-)
British Airways didn't actually exist as we know before 1974. It was formed when 2 separate airlines were merged by the government to form BA. BOAC (British Overseas Airlines) and BEA (British European Airlines) Until 1974 both airlines were government owned but operated as separate entities. The airline was formed about 100 years ago but as British Airways has only existed since April 1974 as government owned and since 1987 as a private company.
Shocking how many flight crew errors result in problems and also accidents.
Wow! Which flight simulator is this? The graphics are super and using volumetric lighting.
I was tired as heck and thought they meant trees made of literal rubber and I just could not make sense of why they would even exist
Just a correction, but it's BOAC, which stands for British Overseas Airways Corporation, not BOAD. No biggie, just a friendly FYI. 😉✌️
Fun fact, this airplane was originally owned by Olympic Airlines prior to BA and took home the Gold for them in forest triple jump!
I flew in a BA jet in 1973 May. Not mayday. To Bermuda & St. Thomas in 1982. It was fine. No incidents.
Perhaps the title should have been: "The 747 That Turned Into A Chopper!"
I didn't know they have 747-8 in 1976
Its bloody lucky they were rubber trees and not real ones!
Flying suzz saw got them
Landing these behomoths is so unnatural. How could the captain not feel overspeed? You had two people who are supposed to check the speed. Nevermind the flaps.
BA came into operation on 1 April 1974 following the merger between British European Airways (BEA) and the British Overseas Airways Corporation (BOAC). Both were owned by the UK government at the time. BA is now a part of the IAG Group. Prior to this, it was privatised as a standalone PLC with shares quoted on the LSE, in February 1987.
ummm...... where do you research these??
I've got a few trees in my yard that need to be removed. By any chance do you have the captain's contact info?
IM DEAD🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@moonprincess500 That's what I'll be saying when the captain misses the trees and hits my house instead
@@Pigletsyes lmao you got me rollin'
I also have a tree that needs to be trimmed up a bit
@@780brando I'll send him over once he's done with my place
I can just imagine the talk between the estate owner and his insurance man. The insurance man with an incredulous look on his face while the owner tried to explain how a 747 knock down his trees.
🥴🙄😊👍
Insurances have been created to generate money, not to spend it, so in most cases, they find a tiny backdoor to keep their "hard earned" money.
@@foreverpinkf.7603 in most cases they likely would go after BOAC. not sure if Lloyd's covers them, or if they're self-insured (read: the Crown). but you ARE correct. you'll notice if there is a suit won by someone against your insurer, your next premium is a tad higher. we were a long ways from Andrew in florida, but our premiums jumped next month.
@@foreverpinkf.7603 Speaking of insurance,.. all the homeowners who have their house insurance built into the mortgage payment who have deferred because of Covid? I'm just curious to find out.. My guess is that the banks wouldn't have allowed the policies to lapse, but...?
@@messiahsbythesackful6267 Good question.
At the time, some wag in the fleet nicknamed us as British Overtrees Airways.
"What is the angle of BOA?"
"I can't give you an angle but I'd say distance wise about 25 feet."
GPWS was also nicknamed the Game Park Warning System after the Nairobi incident and we used to refer to the Overtrees Division of British Airways.
boad tree trimming service
@@shoesofemelda It was rumoured at the time that the entry in the tech log stated "there was a smell of burning wood emanating from the No. 2 engine". Interesting choice of words when you very nearly died.
@@christophershrimpton7627 Thankfully the log neglects to mention the smell emanating from the captain’s seat cushion…
Trees can sometimes be a good additional layer of ground proximity warning.
GPWS: terrain terrain
Trees: Thump Thump Thump
@@kommandantgalileo im fkn dying lmfao
Lol.
It’s a little like the flight computer saying “PULL THE FUCK UP ASSHOLE!”
@@ThatGuy182545 This reminds me of a video Boeing made on the retirement of the woman that voiced the cockpit warning sounds of the F/A-18 Super Hornet, also known as "Bitching Betty": th-cam.com/video/yx7-yvXf6f8/w-d-xo.html
My friend is a squirrel, he lost his whole house in this incident..
lol
He had nuts squirreled away to cover his losses at another tree!
😂😂
My friend is a bat, he too lost his perch in this incident.LMAO!
hope his family was ok
My father worked for BOAC/British Airways for 30 years. Flew all of the world, and was lucky enough to fly Concord from JFK to Heathrow when I was 15. Always loved that airline. It seems everyone who worked for them knew my father. I miss him so much. Thanks for the video. Cheers
They let you fly the Concorde when you were just 15? Super!!
To fly to serve, the camaraderie on old BA was something different
Sorry about your dad. He must have been a special guy. But your memories will last forever. Nibody can take them away. Take care.
Fascinating. Yes, please, let's see the Nairobi one, too.
Am Kenyan and eager to see the Nairobi case
Yes please please
I think it doesn't matter what Arun is referring to, if he asks if we want to see a video, the answer is always yes
@@Double0pi either way, the message got home :p
I want to know what the F/O was thinking. Captain asked for flaps 25. He questions skipping flaps 20. Captain doesnt respond, so what does he do? NOTHING!!! Wtf dude?!?
Why didnt he set 20?
Why didnt he say “screw it he must know what he’s doing” and set 25?
Why not ask louder?
‘Nothing’ was literally the worst response he could have gone with.
It's a bit confusing how he tells the story, but later part makes it clear that they went to flaps 25 ("F/O and navigator verified that the flaps were at 25", 4:10). It was just that they were already on a wrong trajectory, and no one was properly tracking the altitude, so it didn't help much at this point.
@@McFrax Didn't it make things spectacularly worse as the pilot had taken other action to slow the plane himself after the unnoticed failure to go to flaps 20?
That part was particularly baffling
The rubber trees were rubber-stamped by competing rubber tires on the landing gear.
BOAC and BEA were two separate companies that were merged by the government into BA.
BEA was British European Airways. BOAC British Overseas Airways Corporation, a descendant of Imperial Airways.
And nothing to do with BA - British Airways - until the takeover
Also, fun fact, BOAD is something you made up! Never existed. It was BOAC, Corporation not Division.
30 seconds of Google searching would have given you this info, I mean, come on, the photos you used said BOAC on the side of the plane for gods sake!
@@williamgreen5575 Regarding your original comment of some 5 hours ago on this video:
There are many far more functional ways to draft a commentary on to a copyediting omission than you chose to demonstrate.
I mean, come on, (sic)
@@Rishnai if he author hadn't have gone into detail on the BOAD business and then tried to pass it off as fact ('fun fact'), it wouldn't have been an issue, but the fact they never even bothered to check, just assume they must be correct, and just put the so called fact forward is what I was pointing out
Don't forget BWIA!
"When in doubt, GO AROUND!"
There's a big of luck, a bit of engineered sturdiness, and a bit of the trees being flexible enough and falling over to mitigate potential damage.
and the engines didn't ingest tree limbs.
"when the runway isn't there - go around"
@@johneyon5257 as long as you don't wait too long. I saw a couple of videos where the pilots did TOGA too late, both disasters.
Here in Germany, I've never seen a 747 doing forestry work :(
Probably a good thing tbh 😂
@@MiniAirCrashInvestigation true 😂 I Wonder if they had a deal with John Deere for special attachments for the 747🤔
@@GhostSheep96 Chainsaw 747?
@@kommandantgalileo for example 😂
just use scythes as winglets
"It probably made the pilot's blood run cold" dude it made MY blood run cold and I'm just sitting here at my desk in sweatpants eating lo mein, holey moley
Now I want lo mein 😭
@@MiniAirCrashInvestigation I have leftovers from last night. I tried a place I've never been to before, and it turns out that instead of onions they use... fennel???? I've never even heard of such a thing before, but it was VERY NICE! Good luck in your lunch search :)
I was gonna say some stuff until I realised you said fennel and not fennel seeds
@@Tuere816 yeah, I opened the container and was like, good god, what's with these MONSTER slices of onion, and... I was pleasantly surprised!
The Knights of Ni were somewhat disappointed with their Amazon-air-drop shrubbery . . .
It's a shrubbery
@@nongdarko
"Ahhh! 'E said it again!"
Hahaha - nice one! And they didn´t even get a path!
Actually they received 4 paths between the shrubbery…. They cut down the mightiest rubber tree in the Forrest with a 747
Aaahh Herring!!!
TBF the Captain called flaps 20 and the FO ignored him. Everything else stems from that omission
True but then the pilot instructed flaps 20 and luckily the FO questioned him and the Captain ignored him. Had the FO selected flaps 20 at that moment they would have descended even faster and further and impacted the trees terrain and, well, fireball. Plenty of blame to go around here.
@@stevenspilly The issue was that the captain was trying to fly a speed that works with flaps 20 with flaps 10.
When you extend flaps you don't just increase drag you do the flaps primary function, increase lift at low speed.
If the aircraft was in the correct configuration, the glideslope would likely have been maintained due to the additional lift generated by flaps 20. However, instead of this, the pilot noticed he was going too fast and slowed with flaps 10. less lift, same speed, same pitch resulted in a greater sink rate and hey ho, the 747 did forestry work.
The captain didn't get a response and ignored that. It's on both of them.
A flight years ago 3 in the cockpit one bulb of 3 out. 12 dollars angry capt. Sends FO down into dark hellhole to inspect for gear down configuration.no light. Nobody flying the plane. He hit the yoke with his elbow, auto pilot goes off & nobody notices quiet slow descent. Plane crashed gear down. Wrong focus.
@@Komrade_juice They do some approaches in a stair step fashion. Flaps 10 20 25 30. They skipped a step and ruined the continuity. A plane that large cannot respond as rapidly as a sport plane glider. Now things should be a bit better with CRM and thorough education on the subject. Thank you for making us aware of how the tree clipper got its name.
Would love to see the Nairobi one too
Great work as ususal. You are improving with every upload 👍
I think it was a Comet that touched down in the Nairobi Game Park 9 miles short of the runway. Pressure setting (QFE) issue (NBO 5,350 feet elevation).
I'd be interested to know if the pilots of the two aircraft were ex-military.
Going through the records, researchers found some issues inherent with ex-military pilots who later become civilian pilots.
Apparently, when emergencies develop, such pilots can be prone to defer to their military training, and try to deal with it 'on their own' as if they were in the cockpit of a fighter plane - and so not utilising the help of the other civilian crew, and even ignoring the help of co-pilots, etc. There's extra training suggested for ex-military pilots because of this.
Does anyone know if this military-to-civilian conversion-issue was a factor in either of these incidents?
At least he didn't try to eject.
@@V8King770 ...or bomb anyone...
Most British Airways - BOAC Pilots have a civilian flying background
Don't forget that there are a lot of other types of military pilots as opposed to fighter pilots. My dad had a very easy transition to civilian flight because he had flown heavy cargo jets and had a very similar setup to those on an airliner.
Good question, even fascinating, how early training can carry over instinctively.
In late June of 1988 or 1989 the was a near miss at heathrow. A 747 from Chicago almost hit a 757 that was already on the runway. It made the evening news that night.
Could you do a segment on it? My father was on the 747 which is how I know about it. Please let me know if you do a piece about it.
You did a magnificent job with this story! A++
He's great at being informative but concise 👏
A great investigator and storyteller.
Nice video, thanks! Just to let you know it’s BOAC (not D) - meaning ‘British Overseas Airways Corporation’. They merged with BEA ‘British European Airways’ to form present day British Airways in 1974.
By 1976 the airline was British Airways however they were still operating as separate airlines using the pre merger operating certificates. One of the first areas to be merged was the total purchasing function in an effort to get benefits of larger buys. It was many years before there was total integration.
You clearly didn't pay attention to the video
British Airways was in use when we flew to Melbourne in May 1973
@@ianoswald1605 Thanks, but then I’m not too bothered about operating licences - you’re talking about legalities. We all know airline mergers are complex and take time. Anyway as far as the consumer and what would’ve been on the news is that BOAC and BEA merged to form British Airways in 1974.
@@Wenlocktvdx Maybe that was a precursor to officially becoming BA. As we know, aircraft repaints can take a number of years. Eg AA and USAir, United and Continental. www.britishairways.com/100/story/heritage-liveries
I love how in the sim, the plane hits trees just before landing at the actual runway.
Well there is a Clipper version of the 747, so a little clipping here and there, is only to be expected XD
I was in a military sim and demonstrating flight to an audience so to show off I crashed a 737 type plane at the tip of the empire state bldg. We all laughed but if that was real I'd have a heart attack or be dead. Actually it took quite precision to get the altitude lined up to just brush the antenna on top of the building. If it was a real miscalculation in real life it most likely would have been much lower and worse. I wouldn't want to try it.
As a passenger you can feel the flaps lower, how the captain, who was flying the approach, couldn’t sense he had no flaps extended is beyond me.
Probably so focused on other aspects his mind was shut off to that and because there were some flaps after the initial change in noise and aerodynamics he probably didn’t notice any more change equally if it was him flying he would feel the pitch change but possibly not if the plane is still on auto pilot
When the lightbulb failed, I feel like that was enough reason to go around. Two people in the cockpit were completely out of the loop there, in a critical phase of flight.
i agree, too little critical thinking in a critical moment
Anything that requires the gear position to be verified AGAIN as I'm landing? Forget vu nn
That picture at the begining looks like a proud mother jet watching her baby jet go off on his first day as a passenger plane and now I can't stop squeeing internally.
Lmaooo
I expect they were compensated with a rubber cheque 🥳🥳
Well, they were flying a 'Boing' after all! (Joke stolen from another poster somewhere above and cannabilsed/ruined to suit my own janky joke!)
and I bet the cheque bounced too! :-D
Great presentation and very interesting. This happened 45 years ago when CRM training was not as developed as it is today. By today`s standards, you can call it total break down in crew coordination and teamwork. Also lack of closed loop communication. Seen smilar many times, but only from backseat in the sim.
Kind of astonishing. I do sailing and there you have clear commands because otherwise you might get hit by the boom and go overboard.
@@V100-e5q Jibe....Oh !!! Interesting CRM arose from a David Beaty writing about accidents in 1969 - and he was in BOAC ! en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crew_resource_management also notes CRM developed and was adopted by NTSB and NASA especially after the disastrous Tenerife accident in 1977. We all make minor mistakes, but if they aren't picked up on an aeroplane they can become disastrous - or chop down a few trees if you spool up in time.
I actually laughed out loud when you got to the part about the plantation owner having to fill out an insurance claim!
Reminds me of some friends from Providence RI who had a circus elephant leave a parade and sit on their Volkswagen Beetle and crushed the front of it completely.
Most likely he didn't have to, the airline probably gave him up front whatever he asked for in order to avoid a much more expansive lawsuit (not only in terms of actual value, but also the associated PR headaches).
@@billolsen4360 Did their Volkswagen have elephant coverage on their insurance policy? 🤔
@@daviddunsmore103 nooooo, they weren't with Farmers.
Kind of a juvenile joke. Vladimir may be right. I don't think it would have been a strange insurance claim at all, considering that the plantation was on the approach path to a major airport.
Hopefully that dude with the trees had Farmers Insurance because they’ve seen almost everything.
Dum-da-dum-da-dum-dum-dum!
Estate owners sign in the tree tops: Please call this number when you land.
Sadly, In developing countries, farmers don't necessarily insure their crop unless the government has raised awareness about such things. In most cases, the government comes to the the aid.
Is the airline the party liable? They (their pilot) did the damage.
Thank you for including incidents where it’s not all death. Gives me hope I can fly one day. I have severe phobia.
These mistakes are rare. You can fly with your eyes closed & wake up there. I see some people fall asleep before takeoff. I'm a window watcher and fly often. I find it exhilarating fun. I dont particularly love rollercoasters though even though they are on the ground somewhat. I flew to Las Vegas and got on one upside down ride. It was scary because I had never tried it before. Ill go again. But no plane ever felt like that plus you are inside in a plane. Try a short flight first to test the waters flutters. If you don't like it do not go back. My first trip was over water to Bermuda in 1973. Then whenever I could get off work. To puerto Rico then California Minneapolis Texas for military training on guess what? Planes F104 AD10 F15. Then cargo C141. With C130 next door in 1980. Then flight classes in Cessna 150. Then back to Las Vegas Hawaii & Florida & home to NY USA. Start local. Then expand. You'll see a lot of what you've been missing. Its fun. I never flew as a kid. I was 20. Now 69. Only watched planes land at JFK at 6 years of age.
Just proves how well-built the 747 is, that it could hit trees and still fly. Thank you for this post. Yes, I would love to see the Nairobi flight you mention.
Such a beastly workhorse!!
Yeah the 747 can fly through a field of rubber trees, but the A300 can survive being hit by a missile
Nairobi one please. Great work on this as always!
That just goes to show you how large a 747 is... They took out so many trees but the pilots didn't feel a thing!
On the first photo, that VC10 (at least I think it is) looks like some corporate jet compared to the 747 behind it.
@@senilyDeluxe It's a BAC One-Eleven. It's quite a small aircraft.
That would be a good ad... the plane is such a smooth ride that you can brush trees and not know it. Come on down.
This is my go-to channel! I watch boat channels Jeep recovery channels a couple of other documentary channels. But this is the one I always compact to and enjoy the most. The narrator is such a humble man. He speaks well the research is spot on. To me, he's the kind of guy you'd like to meet!
Almost rubbered out
Fortunately they were rubber trees. They'll bounce right back.
I've seen the aftermath of several planes that have done forestry work, but it often resulted in fire and funerals.
yeah the end result of airplanes doing tree-trimming gigs is usually deadly. was not in this case , happily
Yes, could we have a video on the Nairobi near miss please?
One of our C-130's had a bird strike like this. Unfortunately, the bird was sitting in a tree when it happened.
Funny!!! 😁
From a 130 guy!!
@@kolasom Hey - it happened.
@@rickbanet4830 Had a C-141 coming in to RAF Mildenhall in England. They called in an hour out: "Alpha-3 (broke) for deer strike"
Huh? Bird strike??
Nope. Deer strike. Was Santa now missing Rudolph? These morons hit a deer on takeoff from Ft Campbell, Kentucky, and then flew across the Atlantic Ocean. The right wheelwell was destroyed.
@@kolasom LOL - Now that there, that's funny.
@@rickbanet4830 The aircrew was grounded. There's no way in hell they should've continued on, knowing they had hit a deer on takeoff. It took us 3 days to repair all the damage to that wheelwell. When it landed there was cooked meat in the brake pads, guts everywhere, and a frozen rack of ribs on the rear wall!! Yummy!!
The CRM in this case was top at some points. However I think the mishap was obvious and should they made a double check they would have caught that mistake. I am up for all possible videos of yours.
Perhaps one day you'll find the incident in Boston between 2007 and 2012 when another British Airways 747 had to realign its trajectory towards Logan International Airport from aiming at a tower in the communities of Everett and Chelsea.
Low bridges for truckers. High tree tops for pilots.
0:22. BOAC (not BOAD). British Overseas Airways Corporation.
Great video! I'd love to see the Nairobi video. Keep up the good work :)
The flaps numbers are the angle in degrees. I think most people know degrees right?
In imperial, 20 degrees is 43 3/16 shlobons
Now I'm not saying it's their fault here, but the first should not have just let it go when the cpt asked for flaps 25. Yes, question then and ask "From 10?" And if you got no response, tap their shoulder coz they clearly for tunnel vision and say "Dude, are you sure from flaps 10?" Then the cpt will snap out of it as say "Yes, I thought we were at 20 already, gimme 10 and add spoilers, we need to slow down"
He also should've been watching the altitude, and speed. It sounds like the first officer was off in his own little world not paying any attention to where they were in the approach and the state of the aircraft which he was supposed to be doing. In a normal approach the pilot flying is able to focus heavily on the landing because the pilot monitoring is supposed to be checking their work, can still blame the captain some, but the FO should take the most blame IMO because he was ignoring his primary duties.
So was the plane in line to the runway but too low? Is that why the pilot couldn't see the runway so he pulled away?
Yes, over corrected due to previous errors by the Commander and co-pilot
I was not aware that BOAC took care of international routes... Awesome video ❤️❤️❤️
Thank you!
Not BOAC - BAOD. BOAC was British Overseas Airways Corporation and was merged with BEA in 1971 to form British Airways.
Montego Bay
@@slobberybog I worked for the newly formed BA. For a couple of years, during consolidation, the company was divided into the European and Overseas Divisions. I worked for ED but on night shifts, would eat in the OD canteen not far from the Concorde Maintenance hanger. Great times.
@@martinc199 TBJ/TBK? Best canteen!
something's weird about British Airways B747-200, B747-400 ER & in-flight incidents in South East Asia!!! between 1980s & mid 2000s British Airways flights enroute to or via destinations in S.E. Asia operated by British Airways huge fleet of B747-200 & B747-400 ERs!!! Luckily none of the incidents involving British Airways B747-200 & B747-400 ER ended in an otherwise very possible disaster!!!
Hello from Nairobi Kenya! Love your videos, so informative and entertaining!... please do the Nairobi Near miss, i'd love to see that!
Maybe I am not competent to judge this circumstance - but I am more concerned that a single error caused a near accident. The pilot flew it out of a very bad place and deserves congrats fora rapid and correct decision saving the flight. The fact that nobody caught the flap error is more concerning. The FO did not hear the order for flaps 20 What was the FO doing that took his concentration off of listening? This was not an error on the captains, the FO's or the FE's part. The system failed - as long as people set in cockpits they will NOT hear some things. Is it possible to make a listening application that can respond to a simple command like Flaps 20? By insisting that if the flaps do not go to 20 within a short time that some kind of obvious tell tale warning is put out? If the FO had moved the flaps lever to 20 and then went about the rest of his business and the flap actuation gear had failed - the same thing could have happened - This is called a disaster by single point failure, not a good thing.
And wow, I really enjoy these - I am not a pilot but a programmer. I built systems that were supposed to help people do their job in difficult circumstances and listening to your descriptions is making me a better programmer. Those of us back at the design stage need to think of these things also, not just blame the user.
it was pure luck that the pilot recovered the situation. He deserved nothing but the sack as he just wasn't capable of keeping control of everything that was going on in his cockpit.
It was called BOAC. British Overseas Airline Company. It may have been Corporation, but it certainly wasn't Division.
I don't know what report you read, but tiredness was ruled as a contributing factor. Also 9:10 "A well trained pilot should have no problem flying this approach", yet again the official report clearly states the approach for runway 15 in Kuala Lumpur was "not compatible for a stabilized final approach from 1,000 feet", and that is a HUGE deal; thus why there were other "incidences" before this one. So ya even a well trained pilot would have a hard time with this approach, as it wasn't "compatible for a stabilized final approach" ie: you had to wing it bellow 1,000 feet.
Does the simulator not have a 747-100? That was a -400 in the video, especially the panel. (Would have been steam gauges in 1976.)
Before buying tickets passengers should be able to see pilot’s records. In this case the captain just received a ‘marginal’ rating for this plane. Passengers risking their lives should know what kind of danger they’re facing before boarding a plane. That, or they should get huge airfare discounts if a pilot just crashed 3 planes.
This captain went though his checks constantly below average. The old boys club protected him. It was just luck that this was not a major accident.
BOAC, not BOAD… it was merger with BEA starting around 1972 that British airways became.
How are you still under 100K subs?
Montego Bay is a song that mentions boac
So does “Back in the USSR”.
The thing about getting distracted is that it's nearly impossible to tell that you're distracted until something proves dangerous. Sometimes it's just a near miss and you can bring yourself back to focus but sometimes the very first indication that you're distracted is the end of your life.
that is why i would never be a pilot. I get distracted too easy
Right. How many times did planes go down without the pilots knowing what happened or how? Tail fell off wing sheared off too close to ground before knowing it. Sudden drop.
Even speedbirds roost sometimes.
Lucky escape!👏
Awesome video, I’d love to see a video about the near miss in Nairobi!😸
R MW
Am Kenyan and eager to see the Nairobi case
British Airways was formed from BOAC, BEA and two regional airlines in 1974. BOAD was a fairly short-lived, transitional structure of BA's operations
I should add this accident occurred in 1976, the graphics in this video gives the impression it could be much more recent!
I love the 747. Could you please find a disaster involving my favorite variant of the 747, the 747SP?
China airlines , thought engine 4 failed and fell 20000 ft , let’s watch that
@@coca-colayes1958 I know the story of China Airlines Flight 006. A fascinating story.
A SAA plane had an engine failure once
There is a video on Airclips of the near accident or incident on that model recently.B747SP. They think because it was shorter it survived narrowly.
Strive to be marginally acceptable.
Yeah we want a video on Nairobi incident... we'd love that..!!!! #flysafe
I hope the crew received some continuing education hours. If these were oak or maple trees this may have ended differently.
This accident was reported in the local newspapers I read many years back. Actually when it happened, the villagers reported seeing green coconuts on the ground the following morning.!!
I love those videos. And I find it uncanny that the render at 0:19 looks so real. I wasn't paying so much attention and thought it was a real photo at first.
Marvellous work sir!!
AND a happy ending!!!
I really appreciate your videos! Can you please investigate the case of when Orlando International Airport (MCO) was Mccoy Air Force Base. I was born and raised here and heard stories about a large I think B52 that took off from MCO and had some kind of trouble and crashed into a neighborhood of homes. I believe this was in the late 1950s? I would greatly appreciate it and help if I could. Did you know the story behind Orlando International Airport and why it's airport code is MCO instead of something like ORL? It would be Logical like how Atlanta is ATL or Miami is MIA but the MCO was left behind from the old days of it being McCoy Airforce Base
I've always wondered why it was MCO!
Very nice video. Like more of these. Thanks.
🎶 Look, there goes another rubber-tree plant. 🎶
Excellent, look forward to your next tale of aviation mishaps !
Correction: there was never any such airline as British Airways Overseas Division or BOAD; before British Airways was formed in the early 70s, there was two related but distinct airlines, British European Airways (BEA) which flew mainly domestic & European (still "overseas" just within the European continent) routes, and British Overseas Airways Corporation (BOAC), which flew mainly intercontinental routes (outside Europe)...I think the 3rd airline involved in the merger was one called British United
They might've called it that shortly after the merger. Even today there's an internal distinction
@@speedstyle. The internal distinction is what the AAIB is referencing in their incident report. It wasn't BOAD, it's BA (OD).
Four greens on the PAPIs means they're shining through the trees and you really ought to pull up.
Terrain terrain. Pull up. Was not installed yet. And he still did not know he brushed the undercarriage & belly with green bristles. I'm surprized leaves were not ingested into the engines depending if he was nose down.
I can just see the insurance company telling the plantation owner, "we're not paying out, cause you only had third party insurance for them trees!"
That 747 can be called a "Tree Hugger".
This happened in 1976. CRM was not practiced as it is now. Today, communication between cockpit crew is much better. Good thing aircraft was a 747, built tough, and almost idiot proof. I used to work for Boeing in Everett where 747 is built. Been all through aircraft during different phases of construction. Amazing plane.