Why is my Cherokee 6 a MOST WANTED Family Airplane? On Cheap Fuel Hunt
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 29 ก.ค. 2022
- On this video I'll talk about many topics including why Why is my Cherokee 6 a MOST WANTED Family Airplane. My son and I are also On a On Cheap Fuel Hunt mission during these crazy times. Also, check out the bonus footage on how I take out the airplanes and fit them back into the hangar. Last but not least, Javier takes over the controls and is doing an amazing job flying and controlling the airplane.
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Ahhhhh, to be torn between two planes, useful load, fixed gear vs retract, turbo vs normally aspirated . . .
We should all be so blessed!
Sounded like a "Sales-Pitch" - HA
When you gonna get a Turbo pressure rised Centurion? 😁
I actually have so many people and brokers wanting the my Cherokee Six but I cannot let it go yet. My children are growing and I will need it for family trips and for hauling stuff. The turbo is more for my business trips when I want to get going faster and for a new up coming project. But we are blessed indeed to be part of such a great privilege like general aviation! I love the skies! 😀
I’m happy for your son, he is doing a great job! Keep it up!
Hi Gary, He is really doing it up! Soon he'll be driving and flying 😀These are those fatherly special moments in life. Thanks a lot for the special comment!
Awesome video! Love to see the young ones fly!
Great job Javier, keep it up! 👍👏
Hi Eugene! Me too my friend! I love to pass as much inspiration to this young generation as I possibly can. Thanks for that my friend! 😀
Thanks Eugene, I don't plan to stop anytime soon😁
Dad needs to get his CFI and teach Javier. He’s a good teacher
Great Video!!! I see that Javier has also caught the Aviation Bug!!! He did great. Very mature, professional and responsible (flying with his fingers). Great information during the flight also regarding why the Cherokee 6 is the plane to buy!!!
Thanks a lot Avery! Javier is learning very well and he should be in great shape when he starts his lessons next year. 😀
Fun seeing you fit the two planes in a single hangar. Nice work. Good content.
That took some improvising 😀
Yes, I look pretty closely at where I land and what the fuel prices are. I do to some extent adjust flight plans based on where 'cheaper' fuel is. But like you, I've needed the time savings my Cherokee 6 provided in my schedule, so I'm still flying. I have the 7th seat (and all 7 seat belts) for mine, and I have had 7 in mine when the kids were small and we had 3 adults and 4 kids. Still light enough to go with full fuel. Pretty amazing useful load, definitely helps with a family. When the kids were small, never had to leave fuel behind. Lately I've filled 6 seats (and everyone limited on how much baggage they could bring) and had to leave fuel behind, but even with the extra fuel stops, its saved quite a bit of time.
Keep up with the great videos!
Thanks for sharing my friend. I totally agree with the Six having an amazing useful load. I've never had to compromise on fuel but I may have to start leaving some luggage pretty soon as these young ones continue to grow. I did a trip just a couple of days ago in the Saratoga and it was cool to be able to load it up to almost full capacity and still be able to takeoff with a sea level climb rate. But, the bad news is that I was at almost full capacity without my wife. So the Six will still have to be the go to plane for the family trips. Thanks a lot John!
Love your videos brother. I'll be getting one of those soon.
Thanks 😊
Love ur video sir. I'm not a pilot but ur video make me very interested in getting into it. Keep up the great work u do good sir. Keep living the dream.
Thanks a lot! You are a great example of my reasons to make videos. I love to bring out general aviation to those that may consider getting a pilot’s license. You will enjoy it! I appreciate your comment!
Love your flying and your son flying with two fingers……..nicely done. 👍🇺🇸✈️
Hi John! He's doing really well. I can't wait until next year so he can start taking lessons. Thanks a lot my friend and God bless! 😀
Thanks John, I'm glad my dad taught me the 2 finger trick some times I use 3 though since its more comfortable for me but back to the topic, When I would use both hands I would over correct over and over again so it was a bit harder to control the plane
Now that's what I call surgical precision on getting those planes in the hangar. :) Great video.
I appreciate that Frank! It was an impressive project to figure out. It was comforting knowing I could get both in the hangar. 😀
I wish I could go flying with you. Love the videos!
Thanks a lot Adam 😀
Great video!
Fuel prices (aviation, auto gas) are insane. IMHO, we're getting gouged big time. Used to be that fuel followed the price of a barrel of oil. Well, no more! Not as long as consumers pay it.
Fingertips on flight the controls is the way to go. Like you point out, you have better feel for what the airplanes wants to do - even in turns. Over-control leads down the path of just more over-control. Javier is demonstrating the light touch technique very nicely.
Amazing sampling the Stone's Paint it Black with Latin cover. Got my salsa on! Of course, my wife thought I was having some sort of seizure...
I can't wait for Javier to start lessons next year. He should be well ahead of the pack. I had no idea if the two rhythms would work together but I found the key note and got to work. The rest is history! I liked the way the two came together. You cracked me up with the seizure. I could actually picture it. 😀
@@FlyingDirty 😉
Always easy and soft on the controls. Fuel is crazy in SoCal but just recently coming down a little bit. Enjoying my cherokee six.
Hi Daniel! Let me know if you ever make to my neck of the woods. Absolutely, the Six is an awesome airplane.
Awww Man what a kool video, living the dream , yeah prices will always be a factor but but innovative we are. 'Mission cheap fuel" case in point. Top Video.
Thanks a lot for sharing your kindness thoughts 😀
Been involved with general aviation since the 80's. I absolutely hate whats going on with prices now.
I can second your feelings. General aviation is too valuable to see it hamper our newer generation from such a great privilege. Thanks for sharing!
Your planes are so pretty. Great job!
Yeah i think our planes are Pretty and cool too lol, by the wat, can you hook me up with some Pizza Andy...😂🍕
Thanks a lot! I appreciate you 😀
@@FlyingDirty quick question. I am still on training and have not seriously began looking for a plane. I believe the Cherokee six fits my family’s needs the best. However, I am concerned that it isn’t the right plane to be able to make a trip in and out of Granby (kgbn). My wife’s family has a cabin at Grand Lake and we live over by Memphis.
@@MisfitRZR With airplanes everything varies on your normal needs. The Cherokee Six is a very capable airplane but it’s difficult to answer your question precisely. There are variables to consider such as total weight, weather conditions, etc. It really all depends but that would be the same with any normally aspirated airplane. Also, flying up there can be very sketchy and you have to hand pick your days to fly up there. But if you are planning to fly up there often then consider a turbocharged. But for east coast flying it should serve you well. 😀
Excellent job Javier, your doing an awesome job sir... look forward to seeing your journey in aviation. Raul my friend great video content as always...
Question what do you think about the Piper Dakota or the 235, which I was told was smaller then the Dakota.
As always thanks for sharing your flying adventures!!! CYA
I’ve not been in a Dakota yet but I’ve always heard that they are great airplanes. I’ve been in several 235s and the best way to describe them is a smaller version of the Cherokee Six with a decent amount of useful load.
Javier did a great job piloting. I too am feeling the pricing increase in our mechanical contracting business. We have just had to increase our street rates and contract pricing are increasing upon renewal. Refrigerant pricing has gone from $3.60/lbs back in early 2021 to nearly $17-$20/lbs present.
100LL is at 7.50 down here in Miami.
Thanks a lot Jorge! That is insane increases in refrigerants. The question on my mind is; How far is this going?
@@FlyingDirty truthfully I have no idea. With the cost of fuel increasing and new Amazon business model with big box suppliers are limiting local inventory on all parts which is then driving up pricing. I do feel as it’s only going to get worst before it gets any better.
The Cherokee Six is a hard one to part with!!
I totally agree on that Das! Such a great airplane! 😀
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Hello and thank you! Welcome onboard! 😀
The prices haven't cancelled any big trips for me in our Lance, but in between, when I just want to keep the plane flying weekly, I'm not going for cross countries and keeping it local at very low power settings.
I think I could say the same. I just had a big trip to Kentucky which added up significantly and it makes me wonder how much more of these nonsense can we take?
can't wait for any sort of PA-32 being available for MSFS!
My son has a PA32 Saratoga that he got for 20 bucks. He has MSFSX. It's pretty cool and responds well.
Fuel in my area ranges from $7.00 to $8.50 per gallon. There’s two smaller airports in the mid to high $6 range. I’m in the Philly area. How it affects flying is I am doing less flying w my club in which we have an Archer, Dakota and Lance and more casual flying with my Tomahawk which burns a cool 5.5 - 6 gallons per hour.
Now that’s a great way to balance the budget my friend. 😀 Thanks for sharing!
How did you go about finding your plane? What are some recommended sites and any advice or tips with finding a plane for a first time purchaser?
Hi Randy, I did a lot of research on-line and I went to go see several of them. I almost walked away from this one but my mechanic talked me into it after inspecting it. Now I am glad I did. My advise is to be patient and make sure you get a mechanic to do a pre-buy inspection.
Great video dad 👍🤗 also keep up the good work also nothing with ever be better then the Cherokee in my opinion also I say also to much
Thank you my little angel! 😘
Isa, isa, isa😂 and yes you do say also way too much lol
Was planning on buying an airplane in January, but not now the way these gas prices and airplane prices.. just have to wait it out and see what happens
It does make any one think 🤔. Buying a physical product is one thing. Buying a liquid that burns into an invisible gas is another 😀. If we could only collect back the burnt fossil fuel and reconvert it into $ 😀😀😀
Fuel prices are nuts. An FBO owner said his next order was $2 less per gallon but he didn’t drop fuel price after several weeks
Well that’s not right 😲
The only thing keeping me flying was a MOGAS STC. It took several hundred dollars worth of equipment but I can use $5 gas now.
That was a smart move 😀
It certainly has been a challenging time in that both supply and cost issues are very difficult to overcome. It just seems to be a never ending list of excuses used for justification for price increases. Meanwhile oil companies are posting record profits as a result. Exxon for example reported earnings between April and June of this year, that it made $17.9 billion, up from about $5.5 billion during January through March.
That’s Insanity but folks should become more aware of the reality behind these issues. A lot of folks unfortunately still live in a fantasy world that nothing seriously is going on. I hope they are right but that’s far from what I see.
When you go to a small airport other than your base, how do you arrange for parking/storage of your plane if it's going to sit for a week or two?
Mostly park out on the ramp unless bad weather is coming in, then we arrange for a hangar. Typically a small fee for tie-downs, some are free, some will waive the fee if you buy fuel. We spent 2 weeks in the Bahamas and no issues parked out on the ramp.
Great question! For me that all depends on where I go and if there is any threat of severe weather. But normally tie downs to secure it or, if necessary, a hanger.
I see you got this one for me my friend! Thanks for that! I was at the airport all day fueling up the Saratoga for a trip to Kentucky (if weather holds up). 😀
@@FlyingDirty
Sorry, I was commenting and thought I would reply to this question as it was fairly general….
@@Parr4theCourse By all means my friend! I thought it was pretty darn awesome. 😎
I live up in Conifer, CO which is about an hour from your airport. I'm really interested in getting my PPL and I've been watching a lot of your videos. Are there any resources out here that you'd recommend I look into? I'm having a hard time getting over the cost to entry.
Hi Erich, I remember back when I started I saved up a budget and went all in. But it has gone up considerably since. Back then, I do also remember a couple of companies that were doing some type of student loans. You might want to look into that. My other advice would be to go 3-4 times per week. The lesser you go the more it ends up costing in the end. But if you go more you could get burnt out and may be overwhelming. But I really think it’s a great investment if you can do it. Best wishes to you my friend and I hope it all works out.
Is your Cherokee a 260 or 300? I just found your page, love hom you explain your flying.
Thanks a lot and welcome to the channel my friend. I have a Cherokee Six 260 and also a Turbocharged Saratoga (300). But try not to fall victim to the 260/300 non sense. The reality is there’s really not much differences between the two at sea level. It is only at higher altitudes where my Turbocharged Saratoga will start to shine. But while I gain performance on the Saratoga I also lose 454 pounds of useful load against the Cherokee Six 260. The reason I’ve kept both! 😀
I thought it was very odd that aircraft prices spiked when they did - and then continued just like real estate right through the economic slowdown. Gas prices are finally impacting that I think. Starting to see a few "deals" on some models - probably the people who were not regularly flying and with gas prices - that was the straw that broke the camel's back. First things to go are the boats and the planes. But RV sales are still at a record pace too - where are people getting all this money? Doesn't compute.
Great points Poas! I think RV's will continue the trend because a lot of folks are downsizing from houses since many sold and opted to not buy in this market. But the fed gave out a lot of free money which is not a good thing. 😀 Interesting note my friend! Thanks for that!
Great video. Is this a 6/260 or 6/300? A 6/300 should climb similar to the Saratoga.
You are probably new to the channel so you probably did not realize I was referring to my other turbo charged Saratoga 😀. The TC Saratoga climbs out with sea level pressure at Centennial in the summer heat. But normally aspirated airplanes will struggle at APA. Another important note to consider is the Cherokee Six having Hershey bar wings and non retract vs the Saratoga's tapered wing and retract giving the Saratoga the edge on climb out. But having a TC engine has been incredible. 😀 Thanks for the comment!
@@FlyingDirty that’s awesome! Congrats. What do you find with respect to maintenance of both? The TC Saratoga to be double or more?
@@highendaudio Thanks 😊. Not much of a difference. The turbo Saratoga just a few hundred more mainly because of the landing gear.
I’m a student pilot right around 35 hours. My flight school has added a fuel surcharge of $14 an hour on top of rental price.
Wow 😯. If anything, they should simply adjust the price of the fuel price difference. But the good thing is that you can get this done in 5-15 hours.
Awesome 👏 video!! What simulator setup Javier practices upon?
He is using Microsoft X with rudders and all switches and controls. He reminds me of all the flights I did on my old one back in the 90's.
I use kind of a basic setup compared to other people but for a more in depth answer I Use stuff from Logitech but what I have is The Logitech Pro Flight Controls which came with the yolk and the throttle, prop, and mixture quadrant and around 2-3 months ago I purchased the pro flight switch panel witch has gear up/down, LED lights for the gear, Actual Airplane lights for the simulator, and the normal start up buttons such as batterie on/off,
avionics master switch, and the magnetos. Than in the future I'm going to get the rudders from Logitech since I'm afraid that if I get it from another brand it might not be compatible with Logitech, If you get the flight switch panel though you have to install drivers for it from Logitech website so the simulator can read the switch panels input but I had to manually install the files in the driver since it wouldn't auto install them but it all worked out in the end lol
@@J_Does.......... My dear brother...What a long answer lol 🤣😂
@@J_Does.......... Thank you for your detailed response much appreciated.
I am glad you were able to manually install the drivers and it fix most of your software installation issue for your hardware.
Keep the videos coming! You and your dad are doing amazing job. Wishing you the best in your aviation journey.
Well gas prices is definitely a big problem. Pilots like myself have reduced flying by 20% to compensate for the increase. Regarding the aircraft prices we also going to see a drop but don’t hold your breath for the used ones. Think about it. Everyday there is some accident that destroys them so the inventory is shrinking. Now the new aircraft market is crazy. Prices are untouchable for most of us in an environment that is very small so yes the prices will come down but to the point that you are getting some sort of a bargain nope.
I have reduced my leisure flying but I still have to do long trips. When I add it up I start to get the chills 😂 Interesting times we are in!
@@FlyingDirty 😂😂
She's a beaut!
Thank you my friend! We certainly have a lot of history and more in the making. 😀
KCMA $7.20 100LL
Love your videos. Keep up the good work!
Thanks buddy! 😀
I was planning to go to Yuma last month when I saw their 100LL listed for $4.99. The next morning I got a ForeFlight update and gas was now showing $5.85😂. I missed the cheaper prices by a few days. I ended up going to Akron for $.20 cheaper.
Hi buddy 😀 Are you sure they’re $5.85? They must have come down. When I had checked it last week they were at $7.10. I don’t think they’ll get many visits now.
@@FlyingDirty Hey there, it was back in June then prices kept going up in July. So you’re right, it’s upper 6 or lower 7’s at this point. I had a buddy tell me way back that if you can’t afford the gas (for a plane or large RV) then it’s not the right toy. Fun fact, my Cherokee 140/180 is a ‘66.
@@blueyonder360 I don’t know if I can totally agree 100% to the affording gas thing although I do certainly relate to it. For me, as a business type of mentality, I don’t like spending more money than I have to on consumables products. But it is what it is 😂😂😂
@@FlyingDirty I can appreciate that kind of thinking. As you said, the other option, from a business standpoint (or personal) is you could save on fuel costs by driving. My time is worth paying the current fuel prices and it’s more fun to fly😉.
@@blueyonder360 It’s indeed a great privilege 😀
A great plane but there is a serious wing spar AD that everyone should read up on before even thinking about a Piper C6.
The AD is past due and should have already been inspected and noted in the logs. But it should be looked at. I got custom inspection plates on mine when I got mine done for easy access and inspections. A pre-buy inspection should always be done prior to purchasing any airplane.
Great finger tip coment!I I was taught that If you are working at flying you are doing something wrong! The plane knows how to fly we don't!
That's a great way to put it! Back before I had an autopilot on the Cherokee Six trim was my autopilot 😀 If the airplane is well trimmed it just wants to stay where it's at. Great as always to hear from you my friend!
Wish i could fly lol, Maybe in one of my dreams it'll happen who knows😂
$7.74 at base but $7.10 30 miles away
For that small difference it could cost much more to fly there and back for a $0.64 difference. But when our airports were above 7 and the small ones at 4.99 I was all over it 😀
last price i saw from yelvington at KDAB was 7.6 for 100LL and 6.99 for JA, over at 7FL6 it's 6.15 and 5.55 (prist premixed)
It’s wild stuff! 😂😂😂
Tengo ese mismo avion en pr por 31 anos N3861W
Eso significa que mi avion es el hermano mayor de tu aviaon. Tienes que respetarlo. 😀😀😀 me imagino que tener un 6 en la isla es una gran aventura. 😀 Gracias mi hermano y bendiciones!
I am seriously considering selling my 79 Archer. Fuel prices are just too prohibitive. $7 per gallon at my airport. Just about double what it was a couple years ago. I'm not getting any younger either. But, the market for used aircraft has started to shrink. So, maybe I'll keep it until I'm dead and my estate can worry about it. (-: Sadly, we own a large boat at Lake Powell, too. They've let the water level fall so low none of the ramps are usable. It hasn't been in the water for 2 years! They say it's the drought. Lake Meade is 187 feet below full. Powell is 165 feet below full. But strangely, Lake Havasu, where all the water is sucked out of the Colorado for California, is 4 feet over full pool.... Our lovely vice president is from California coincidentally.. I don't want to get political, but who we elect has consequences. We are seeing this in vivid color these days.
Hi buddy! You make some serious concerning points my friend. It is stunning how we let it get to this point. But when people open there eyes 👀 and see what is really happening it becomes very obvious. Great point about the lakes drying up!
@azcharlie: The most vibrant green landscape I saw from the air during droughts were gold courses. Just sayin'...
@@EJWash57 Yup! Now those have to stay green 😀
Just let me buy the 6 lol. Ill take it off your hands.
Man, I really would prefer to sell one or the other but the Saratoga will not be much use for our family trips because of the useful load. Family trips and hauling in the Six and personal trips in the Saratoga. 😂😂😂
@@FlyingDirty I hear you. That’s why I love the 6. But I live out at KARR so I don’t have to worry about DA as much lol. Field elevation is ~720.
@@MindTesla I’m always quick to say that had it not been for our high density altitude I’d just stick with the Six. But the Saratoga has already proved to be a great addition. That airplane gets me to my longer cross country business trips so much faster. But perhaps after a few years when Javier is grown and doing his own thing then we can downsize.
Its a shame about the prices of everything and yet certain people and certain politicians will try to talk as if we are in a good economy. Must be nice to be at the top and ignorant like the politicians.
With a comment like that you sound like the total ignorant. There’s a difference between accomplishments vs being hateful. Accomplished folks wants others to succeed. But the hateful remain stagnant and ignorant. Unfortunately the ignorant people that remain without progress in life become selfish minded and are not tolerant of others successful experiences. You see, my goal is different than yours. My goal is to inspire others that dreams can be accomplished. But it will require mental discipline and a genuine effort. That which the ignorant cannot process well. Comparing a child of God vs evil politicians means you think in selfishness just like those evil hypocrites. Open your mind and be just and wise or remain in social slavery and in mental discomfort. The choice is yours! I hope the very best for you!
PA-28-260 is a great airplane and is a good XC airplane
Hello; I don't think that Piper made a PA28-260. The PA28 line went up to the PA28-235. But I do think that Piper did make their line very confusing by mixing the PA28 Cherokee name with the PA32 Cherokee Six 😀
I believe they all are now PA-32’s which wa the originals Saratoga .
No, no my friend, please do not confuse yourself. The Cherokee Six was never a PA28. It's always been a PA32. But yes, the Cherokee Six, Saratoga, Lance, and the Piper 6X are all PA32s.