TO WHOM EVER SPOILED THIS FOR HER: One of the reasons I love this channel is that while I can never watch these episodes for the first time again I do get to watch her reaction. And while this is a different felling I get to enjoy her joy, sadness and curiosity of which is the next best thing. So I say on to you and anyone else that wants to spoil anything: be better. It is always nice to be in the know. It feels good to have that power. But when you ruin things, no matter how small it seems to you, it can have consequences for others.
Companions are like Doctors. We love them when they're with us, hate when they leave us, swear that the next one can't POSSIBLY be as good as the last and then fall in love with them all over again. Every. Time.
Truth is there will always be one we latch onto, for whatever reason, one who will always be special. Sure, each Companion is great and unique and fantastic in their own right, but there will always be one that is unique to a viewer. For some, Rose checks those boxes. For some, it’s yet to come. For me? Not telling. Yet.
I’m so glad you didn’t immediately hate on Catherine Tate. So many people are quick to hate on her character for the mood whiplash caused by having the scene switch from The Doctor’s face crying immediately to her gasp, but if anything that was on the writers or the show runner and can neither be blamed on the actress or her character. But I know to expect only the best from you so I am glad you didn’t disappoint.
This ending is perfectly set up by School Reunion as well, since we start to think about what the Doctor's life is like without a companion. And when Sarah Jane tells Rose that the life is worth it, even if they don't get the ending they want. So sad 😢
Exactly. If Rose hadn’t met the Doctor, she’d be living with Jackie in a flat, neither party satisfied with their lives, and neither party striving to do more. Now Rose and Jackie get a second chance with Pete, and a sense of purpose beyond their wildest dreams. It’s sad but they gained as much as they lost this way:
This was fun, of course, given how very arrogant both races have been since forever. But I still think the sickest burn was when the Dalek in season one said to the doctor after his angry rant about the last Dalek ending its own existence to rid the universe of their filth: _"You would make a good Dalek..."_ ;-]
Aren't companion exits/hirings announced early like Doctor ones? IIRC, the end of Tennant's run and the beginning of Matt Smith's were known prior to the episode where it happens airing.
@@bludfyre I believe so yes. Still not an excuse to spoil. I watched the series as it was airing and never saw any of those announcements. At first because I didn't know they existed, and later deliberately to avoid getting spoiled.
@@bludfyre Only because the culture digs for that info and in the internet age it’s impossible to hide so BBC tries to control the release of casting news as best they can. Just because people were hungry for info between seasons 20 years ago doesn’t mean it makes for a better experience to know what episodes coming up will be regeneration or companion swaps. Historically spoiled production info is not part of canon.
My favourite line from this: "The one thing a Dalek can't do. Touch. Locked inside your metal cage. Completely alone" Which of course is how the Doctor ends up talking to Rose. Alone in his box. "No touch".
Rose getting her wish of her parents finally being together is the only happy moment in this damn episode!! That hallway scene is perfection. Adore this episode
This was the last scene filmed for this season, and apparently there were actual filming difficulties because so many of the crew were crying THAT hard.
Please folks, don’t spoil. You’re not just hurting the experience, you’re making people angry. And honestly, you’re just embarrassing yourself. It’s not worth it.
What a lovely reaction! So sorry you got spoiled, I hope people keep things spoiler free for the future! I’ve curated a full 2005+ Whoniverse marathon watch-order for a couple of friends before and I hate when people spoil stuff. This episode absolutely RUINED me when I first watched it on broadcast. The week of school waiting between parts was pure agony, and it just hits you in the gut when he doesn’t get to say it back to rose. And OMG the SASS between the Cybermen and Daleks, SO GOOD, haha! I’ve been absolutely loving your reactions so far, really excellent stuff! Greetings from Devon, UK 🇬🇧.
Russell Davies made it a point to end every season with a giant cliff-hanging WTF moment. Basically, he's telling the audience, 'the chapter is over, but never the story. It goes on.'
The "you are better at dying" line from the Dalek to the Cyberman is always funny. "Bad Wolf Bay" is a beach not very far from where I live. Just one of the fun things about that era of Dr Who.
Mickey's the huge character development we didn't see coming. He's come a long way from who he was in the first episode, "Rose". I love this redemption for him.
Mickey was a sad little simp with no sense of self-worth. He became one of the Earth's greatest heroes, and an absolutely dauntless man of action. He got that Zuko in him
i think, thats why the doctor often picked on him and pushed him. the doctor sees all that is, al that could be, al that should be and everything, that must not happen... he saw, what mickey COULD be, so he pushed him to become, his best self, that the doctor already could see in him.... even if mickey himself could NOT see it in the beginning...
My favorite line from this episode is... "Five million Cybermen... easy. One Doctor..... now you're scared" Edit: As far as I remember, the only "end credit scene" about the "Upcoming Christmas Special" is just the very end of the season episode, just a little hint. Much like "The Bride" in this episode
Before we begin watching just wanna say a preemptive bless your heart ❤. Your emotional openness really defines your channels specialness and this show has some of my all time weepy moments. You're the only channel I watch the intro and outro discussions for because I love hearing every word you have to say.
Of the lesser lines in this episode, Jackie telling the Doctor to shut up (during the Pete interchange) and the Doctor shutting up and stepping back was excellent.
Wonderful reaction, as always! I suspect you're going to love so much of what's to come. I can't wait to watch your continued journey through this amazing show!
Ah, yes. You've officially entered a new era. If the regenerations of the Doctor weren't bad enough, the losses of companions are equally heartbreaking. Fun times ahead!
Doctors change, companions change, it has to be this way to make a show spanning decades. You will get used to it and we all have our favorite doctors and companions but they all add to the show in their own way.
I have loved these reactions so much that I had to join Patreon to get ahead of them 😂such a good episode and overall series. Cannot wait for the Christmas special 😁 also, love the little editor asides and the continuation of the finger snap gag 😂 I’ve heard the Cyberman vs dalek back and forth being referenced as ‘the bitch fight at Canary Wharf’ 😂
No Spoilers people! Sheesh. For this episode: Not really a bad ending for a companion - and all companions time ends, one of the tragedies of the Doctor's existence and not being able to connect excepting fleetingly. I didn't think about Rose in Torchwood in a parallel universe - interesting.
The music throughout this season was great (Girl in the Fireplace being a particular stand-out) but the Doomsday track that plays after the rift closes is just so powerful. It's stayed with me ever since the episode was first broadcast.
Came here to say this. Such a long-awaited meeting when it first happened. I like that the show makes clear the difference of scale. Cybermen are just no threat to the Daleks. **gives a certain future episode some serious side-eye**
I can finally tell you that Billie's last S2 scene shot was the end of "The Satan Pit" 🤯 If you rewatch the end sequence both David & Billie are very emotional & struggle to get through it as Billie talks about "dying in battle" before Tennant says "Then it lied" 😭😭 End of an era! Often in movies & TV shows they are filmed out of sequence due to location if some didn't know. This being the case
This was the first episode of New Who that made me cry. Knowing how badly you took Chris going (at the time I knew it was coming so it didn't hit so hard), I knew this was gonna be bad for you. We had no idea that Billie was leaving.
Over the years this was the first interaction between Cybermen and Daleks and it didn't disappoint .Loved the ' you have identified as Dalek " their one and only victory from the encounter . The Pete and Jackie reunion - or should it be meeting - was tearjerking brilliant . It's a shame you found out about Rose through a spoiler , but in fairness the news Billie was leaving leaked well before this was broadcast originally .I think this was new Who at its best , well written and acted and I'm glad you are enjoying it .
My responsibilty as a Norwegian: "Dårlig Ulv Stranden" a) should have an "å" in it, b) is not pronounced like that, and c) translates to "Sick Wolf Beach", NOT "Bad Wolf Bay". They really did just open a dictionary and grab the first things and left it at that, and it's extremely funny to me. Oh and the beach is very obviously in the UK, there are zero beaches like that in Norway.
To be fair it was Rose who pronounced it that way and was only there because she heard the Doctor. It’s not like she moved there or researched it in much detail before hand. People also use bad to mean sick in the uk “I’m feeling a bit bad today” = I’m a bit sick. So it is possibly it was translated differently in that universe. And yeah Doctor Who was still pretty low budget back then so they used a UK beach. Thank you for the interesting information though! Always interesting what non UK folks think about Doctor Who.
"Unspoiled experience". That's funny given the current nature of internet genre discourse. So many complain about spoilers but then there are all the articles about leaks or speculation of casting lists and story details of upcoming movies and shows. I remain convinced that widespread speculation of story points was a big contributor to the disappointment of the last season of Game of Thrones and the disappointment in the Star Wars sequel movies and shows and Marvel movies and shows. People build up their expectations and when the story is different from their imaginations, they claim it is terrible. Or, as in the case of GOT, some speculation gets too close to the truth that the production team changes the story so they can still have their surprise even though the reason some can guess the ending is actually a testament to the fantastic storytelling to that point. It means the story makes sense. Another case is if someone mentions a story idea on a forum the writer or showrunner might see, there is now a potential legal issue. This has happened many times. When Babylon 5 was in production, the showrunner maintained a Usenet account to discourse with fans. One of his hard rules, even now, is "no story ideas". Of course, someone suggested an idea that was already planned to be a story. That suggestion delayed that story significantly because they now had to deal with potential legal issues. Thus I am distressed about story speculation online because that is an almost guarantee that story will not happen.
People either love or hate Torchwood but I really recommend it as an expansion of the DW universe. It's first season aligns with DW s3 in the viewing order if you are interested, the shows do occasionally intersect.
Personally I find Torchwood to be 50% crap, 40% meh, and 10% absolutely unbelievably great. That 10% makes watching the whole thing worth it. To be fair, I never watched the last season...
So sorry someone spoiled Rose's exit for you. There's no need for people to post spoilers of any kind or to hint at what might might or might not be coming up in future episodes or seasons. In real time, we mostly knew when doctors and companions were going to leave/arrive because casting was formally announced in the press. I think many fans would prefer not to have known in advance though as it spoils the surprise. I'm really glad Rose and her extended family got such a dramatic and fitting send-off. After two lacklustre and forgettable episodes in 'Love and Monsters' and 'Fear Her', this two-parter was further evidence that Russell knows how to pull off a season finale. The sassy stand-off between the Daleks and Cybermen was great. It had to be one of those playground debates fans had as kids, who would win in a battle between the two! Other than the Torchwood theme running through the season, you also picked up on how Rose and the Doctor had let their guard down too often during Series 2. Running from adventure to adventure with giddy excitement, giving the impression they were indestructible. That finally came back to bite them in this dramatic battle at London's Canary Wharf. If you wanted to dip into Torchwood (the series) by the way, Season 1 started airing in October 2006, three months after "Series 2 of Doctor Who" (TM Angela) finished. Most of the episodes aired before the 2006 Doctor Who Christmas Special (the Torchwood two-part finale aired on New Year's Day 2007), but it's not essential. Meanwhile, the pilot episode of The Sarah Jane Adventures also aired on New Year's Day 2007! But the full first season didn't start until after Doctor Who Season Three. I hope that's helpful.
I haven't seen the spoilers being talked about yet. Was it people saying they're excited for the new companion in Series 3 without thinking that by saying this it's basically confirming Rose would leave?
Roses ending is bitter sweet but it’s the best case scenario for her. In the end Jackie was right in a way the only thing that would’ve stopped her travelling with the doctor was dying. She changed for the better on her travels but the only thing in her whole world was the doctor which isn’t healthy, She was losing her connections to others and even was willing to never see her mum or dad ever again. This way she gets to have a family and a life even though she’s heartbroken.
I worked at a best buy back in the day. People used to set the backgrounds of computers next to each other on display to Rose on one screen and the Doctor on the other, pressed against either side of the closed rift.
Shows how an actress/actor can get lucky Freema Agyeman has small part as the women worker converted. is spotted. Ended up in so many ITV, C4, BBC shows.
Knowing when a Doctor or companion is leaving or a new one joining is a pretty authentic experience. The BBC always announced them far in advance giving everyone plenty of time to work through the the five stages long before being able to enjoy someone's finale.
@@valathor95 Not when you were (or are) watching the series in real time in the UK. It is always high profile and widely reported - often years in advance. It's much harder to avoid knowing.
@@themiIes what am I spoiling? I'm just saying how it was for people watching Doctor Who as it is broadcast in the UK where everyone know months if not years in advance when the big changes are due to happen. The BBC themselves make those announcements and build publicity around it.
8:20 The Daleks are a level 9 civilisation, these cybermen are a level 5 civilisation. the daleks aren't actually badmouthing the Cybermen they are just telling the truth as they see it.
Hey, loved the video. I just had a quick reccomendation as I've seen with other reactors that the title of series 3 episode 4 always spoils apart of the episode. So if you haven't recorded that one yet avoiding the title would be a plus for the reaction to avoid spoilers
Now I had to look up the title. Yeah that's a stupid title. But that spoiler is in must episode that that's happening in 🤔trying to say it a spoiler free as possible
The unspoken word, the look on the Doctor's face. What a devastating moment (that we who watched it originally never saw coming). Rose was here, all was fine, and then suddenly in the blink of any eye...she's gone. And all that is left is the infinite abyss in the heart.
I'm glad you mentioned the music in this reaction and I wanted to ask your opinion on the music overall, this show has like full on blockbuster level scores and every track is seeping with energy and emotions which for a tv show is incredible, truly one of those dr who quirks
To do an uncle Tewwance with a few fixing lines. The Cybermen convert in Yvonne's world have void stuff on them because they were converted using tech that had been through the void. The TARDIS exists in a special relationship with dimensions, so void stuff would be burned off through various trips through the vortex
@@jennifermorris6848 if I had to guess it’s because they were made using tech from the other universe including materials as the cybermen didn’t have time to get set up on this Earth.
@@arch1017No, the TARDIS didn’t travel through the void to jump between universes-at least as far as we know. It travels via the time vortex which, as I understand the lore, is a transcendental wormhole kind of passage through space-time. It would have spent no “time” in the void if it was physically in it; possibly it created an alternate “time vortex” dimension to travel through but that goes beyond our knowledge of the (fictional-sorry) tech. Spoilers prevents me from citing shows with supporting examples…
I remember Alex Kingston staring in the 1996, "The Fortunes and Misfortunes of Moll Flanders". A BBC Drama 4 episode TV series. Co staring Daniel Craig. Based on the 1772 Daniel Defoe bawdy novel.
My favorite mic drop in the Dalek v Cyberman roast fight was: "...though your design is inelegant." "Daleks have no concept of elegance." "This is obvious."
Very emotional finale 😥 Daleks just never seem to go away, huh? Lol. At least Rose isn't alone, but unfortunately, the doctor is 😢 Our og companion crew and family is gone. Can't wait for Series 3! Any predictions, or things you want to see in Series 3?
As for the note of travel and exploration you were talking about, hell yeah. It's always interesting to see new monsters and destroy beautiful places, meet people to put in your mouth and new foods to have conversations with... Hey if you're clever those are all interchangeable. Just try not to get stranded in a parallel universe while you're at it.
I had forgotten that was how Rose’s story ended. It’s so sad, but also bittersweet. There is so much possibility for her. Forever changed, and never forgotten.
When i saw them for the first time as a young guy, i remember holding back tears at the end of Return of the King & this episode of DW in equal measure.
Catherine Tate is a comedian who had a comedy skit show with an apparently popular character that was supposed to be a teen who was annoying and had a tagline "I'm not bovvered (bothered)". She had an episode with David playing a substitute teacher who gets her annoying treatment. It's on TH-cam when you're ready.
Remember that feeling you got when Eccleston’s regeneration happened?… best get used to that, if you can. This show is great at taking our emotions on a joyride, and that goes for Doctors as well as companions, as you now have finally experienced it with your first companion. So, congratulations on that. So sorry you’ll have to go through this again in the future. It has been a constant throughout the shows history: the Doctor should not travel alone; hence why he must always have a companion… hence why we’re doomed at repeating this type of separation.
RTDs Daleks are great because they're such a good balance of scary, silly and funny. The burns are great, their sass is great, but as we have seen, particularly in Dalek, they can be pretty scary and threatening too.
I just did some word-counting for the transcript for this episode, and a whole 20% of the words spoken in this episode are said by Nicholas Briggs as the various Daleks and Cybermen. There's another recurring alien race he also voices, plus occasional one-offs. For a man who literally never shows his face in Doctor Who, he gets a LOT of work!
It's funny because I always thought that the cybermen sounded like Roger Lloyd-Pack, and thought it was him doing the voices to reflect that they were created by Lumic (a bit like going back and dubbing Boba Fett and Stormtroopers with Temuera Morrison's voice). Guess we hear what we want to hear!
I really enjoy watching your reactions Angela. I have a vague memory that pops up from time to time. I’ll remember a bit a information, but most of the time I don’t know know what’s happening. You keep us grounded Angela, sometimes you remind me of Candace Flynn from Phineas & Ferb ) if you haven’t seen the cartoon, check it out sometime ) and sometimes you remind me of Rose for the reasons you mentioned…you bring the light, the positivity and the hope. To me you help me see things differently, a new perspective or something I didn’t pick up on. I’m eager to see where the Doctors adventures takes us. Keep up the great videos!
sheesh all this time later and it only hurts about half less. She brought him back man.. She helped heal his hearts and then broke ours gawd damn. We all have our doc grief cycle every regeneration but it's always still him but for nuwho it was her man the first episode of this era is Rose she's was our window into the world and she'll always be special in that way.
I'm loving your reactions I've only just discovered your channel so I've subscribed because I also noticed that you've got my 2nd favourite TV series being farscape. People do need to stop with the spoilers now because I'm really excited about watching your reactions to series 3 because there's some amazing episodes coming up !
That's the trouble with people commenting on stuff, they never realise just what can be a spoiler. And so their innocent little comment, assuming everyone knows about this thing to come, can ruin things. I remember being told some stupid throw away comment about a character not dying in a show I used to watch, the person telling me thought they were being so smart by "pretending" to give me a spoiler, but it not really being one. I then guessed what scenario would lead them to thinking about something as a spoiler and then twisting it into a "not a spoiler". So they spoiled it for me. To be fair to people, I don't think they fully grasp how good people can be at working out what the logic behind their comment can tell them. For instance, by saying Rose leaves at the end of this season it not only spoils the fact Rose is going to be written out of the show on the last episode, it also removes any fear for that character on any of the episodes prior to the last one. I resisted mentioning that Rose was not my favourite New Who companion because I realise the implication there is that there will be a different companion than Rose, and so what happens to her? For all I knew, you had no idea that Rose was not still the companion to this day.
TO WHOM EVER SPOILED THIS FOR HER: One of the reasons I love this channel is that while I can never watch these episodes for the first time again I do get to watch her reaction. And while this is a different felling I get to enjoy her joy, sadness and curiosity of which is the next best thing. So I say on to you and anyone else that wants to spoil anything: be better.
It is always nice to be in the know. It feels good to have that power. But when you ruin things, no matter how small it seems to you, it can have consequences for others.
"be better" reminds me of david tennant's "GROW BETTER.."
The same thing happened to Ugowatch, who is at the same point. Some people get overexcited, and some people are idiots.
Why does she not have moderators who check comments at this point? Even one person would do at this point
"You'll have fun!" They said. "It's just a quirky, campy little sci-fi show" they said. Two seasons in: 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
I bawled my eyes out at this episode the first time I saw it unlike I had with any other show. What a beautiful show.
That’s funny because it’s true.
Pete: Im rich
Jackie: I dont care about that... how rich?
Pete: Very
Jackie: i dont care about that.... how very?
Never change, Jackie, never change
I love that exchange
Not seen this episode for years, I'd completely forgotten this and how deadpan and serious Jackie was when she said it! 😂
🤣😂😂
Companions are like Doctors. We love them when they're with us, hate when they leave us, swear that the next one can't POSSIBLY be as good as the last and then fall in love with them all over again. Every. Time.
We all have our favourites but we can still appreciate the next ones
Truth is there will always be one we latch onto, for whatever reason, one who will always be special. Sure, each Companion is great and unique and fantastic in their own right, but there will always be one that is unique to a viewer.
For some, Rose checks those boxes. For some, it’s yet to come. For me? Not telling. Yet.
Not every time, but usually.
Nope, I still cant stand Donna Noble.
The curse of the Whovians...
I’m so glad you didn’t immediately hate on Catherine Tate. So many people are quick to hate on her character for the mood whiplash caused by having the scene switch from The Doctor’s face crying immediately to her gasp, but if anything that was on the writers or the show runner and can neither be blamed on the actress or her character. But I know to expect only the best from you so I am glad you didn’t disappoint.
Please don't spoil things! Cannot wait for you to watch the Christmas special and series 3!
I sat there and cried watching this. 18 years later im still crying
@@DavidAndDannyShow This hit me hard the first time. Still has the same impact today.
This ending is perfectly set up by School Reunion as well, since we start to think about what the Doctor's life is like without a companion. And when Sarah Jane tells Rose that the life is worth it, even if they don't get the ending they want. So sad 😢
Exactly. If Rose hadn’t met the Doctor, she’d be living with Jackie in a flat, neither party satisfied with their lives, and neither party striving to do more. Now Rose and Jackie get a second chance with Pete, and a sense of purpose beyond their wildest dreams. It’s sad but they gained as much as they lost this way:
The shit talking between the Daleks and the Cybermen in this has come to be known as "The Bitch Fight of Canary Wharf" by Whovians who know.
😂
I was gonna say she should totally watch the video made for that it's still so funny 😂😂
Daleks are the ultimate sass queens
I've heard of it as the Cyberbullying.
This was fun, of course, given how very arrogant both races have been since forever. But I still think the sickest burn was when the Dalek in season one said to the doctor after his angry rant about the last Dalek ending its own existence to rid the universe of their filth: _"You would make a good Dalek..."_ ;-]
What makes Rose’s “death” even more tragic is when you realize the vocals in the song “Doomsday” sound like the howling of a lonely wolf…
And that you hear bits of it when she originally entered the TARDIS.
NO SPOILERS, YOU BUNCH OF MUPPETS! 🤣
Aren't companion exits/hirings announced early like Doctor ones?
IIRC, the end of Tennant's run and the beginning of Matt Smith's were known prior to the episode where it happens airing.
@@bludfyre I believe so yes. Still not an excuse to spoil.
I watched the series as it was airing and never saw any of those announcements. At first because I didn't know they existed, and later deliberately to avoid getting spoiled.
Please don't insult Muppets. 😢
@@bludfyre
Only because the culture digs for that info and in the internet age it’s impossible to hide so BBC tries to control the release of casting news as best they can.
Just because people were hungry for info between seasons 20 years ago doesn’t mean it makes for a better experience to know what episodes coming up will be regeneration or companion swaps.
Historically spoiled production info is not part of canon.
Stop spoiling about the Muppet episode.
My favourite line from this: "The one thing a Dalek can't do. Touch. Locked inside your metal cage. Completely alone"
Which of course is how the Doctor ends up talking to Rose. Alone in his box. "No touch".
it's been so many years for me, and yet, too soon.
Rose getting her wish of her parents finally being together is the only happy moment in this damn episode!! That hallway scene is perfection. Adore this episode
Oh wow I wasn't expecting to see you here
The monkeys paw curls
This was the last scene filmed for this season, and apparently there were actual filming difficulties because so many of the crew were crying THAT hard.
I don't think it was, I think it was the last scene of "the Satan pit".
it's still hilarious the verbal confrontation the Daleks & Cybermen had this episode. Daleks showed no mercy "this is pest control"
Please folks, don’t spoil. You’re not just hurting the experience, you’re making people angry. And honestly, you’re just embarrassing yourself. It’s not worth it.
What a lovely reaction! So sorry you got spoiled, I hope people keep things spoiler free for the future! I’ve curated a full 2005+ Whoniverse marathon watch-order for a couple of friends before and I hate when people spoil stuff.
This episode absolutely RUINED me when I first watched it on broadcast. The week of school waiting between parts was pure agony, and it just hits you in the gut when he doesn’t get to say it back to rose.
And OMG the SASS between the Cybermen and Daleks, SO GOOD, haha!
I’ve been absolutely loving your reactions so far, really excellent stuff!
Greetings from Devon, UK 🇬🇧.
Russell Davies made it a point to end every season with a giant cliff-hanging WTF moment. Basically, he's telling the audience, 'the chapter is over, but never the story. It goes on.'
Yeah, there was even a deleted scene for one at the end of series 4, but ig he felt like it would hit more if they skipped it for that moment
The "you are better at dying" line from the Dalek to the Cyberman is always funny.
"Bad Wolf Bay" is a beach not very far from where I live. Just one of the fun things about that era of Dr Who.
Can people please stop spoiling stuff?! Hate when that happen.
@@lowkeyz99 honestly I don’t get it either
Let me guess. Was it one of those 'wink wink nudge nudge' "spoilers" where the person saying it thought they were being clever?
@@plasticstraw8650 That are at least 60 people who'd like to salt their buttery and butter their salty popcorn. 😂
Please stop spoiling this almost 20 year old season finale… 🎉😂😮
@@zsedc4Don't.
Spoil it for someone who hasn't seen this yet. Stop and think about it. Honestly some people are so stupid.
now you can start watching Torchwood ( it starts after the "Battle of Canary Wharf" )
Mickey's the huge character development we didn't see coming. He's come a long way from who he was in the first episode, "Rose". I love this redemption for him.
Mickey was a sad little simp with no sense of self-worth. He became one of the Earth's greatest heroes, and an absolutely dauntless man of action. He got that Zuko in him
i think, thats why the doctor often picked on him and pushed him.
the doctor sees all that is, al that could be, al that should be and everything, that must not happen...
he saw, what mickey COULD be, so he pushed him to become, his best self, that the doctor already could see in him....
even if mickey himself could NOT see it in the beginning...
My favorite line from this episode is... "Five million Cybermen... easy. One Doctor..... now you're scared"
Edit: As far as I remember, the only "end credit scene" about the "Upcoming Christmas Special" is just the very end of the season episode, just a little hint. Much like "The Bride" in this episode
"This is not war. This is pest control."
One of my favourite all time Dr Who lines.
Before we begin watching just wanna say a preemptive bless your heart ❤. Your emotional openness really defines your channels specialness and this show has some of my all time weepy moments. You're the only channel I watch the intro and outro discussions for because I love hearing every word you have to say.
No spoilers people!!😤
God this was such an emotional episode for me😭.
Love the dissing match between the Dalaks and the Cyberman 😂.
Of the lesser lines in this episode, Jackie telling the Doctor to shut up (during the Pete interchange) and the Doctor shutting up and stepping back was excellent.
Wonderful reaction, as always! I suspect you're going to love so much of what's to come. I can't wait to watch your continued journey through this amazing show!
Epic Rap Battles of History: Dalek vs Cybermen!!!!
Ah, yes. You've officially entered a new era. If the regenerations of the Doctor weren't bad enough, the losses of companions are equally heartbreaking.
Fun times ahead!
Doctors change, companions change, it has to be this way to make a show spanning decades.
You will get used to it and we all have our favorite doctors and companions but they all add to the show in their own way.
You're going to absolutely LOVE Seasons 3 and 4
I have loved these reactions so much that I had to join Patreon to get ahead of them 😂such a good episode and overall series. Cannot wait for the Christmas special 😁 also, love the little editor asides and the continuation of the finger snap gag 😂 I’ve heard the Cyberman vs dalek back and forth being referenced as ‘the bitch fight at Canary Wharf’ 😂
Doctor Who 2x13 The Parent Trap lol
It was elaborate, but it worked!
No Spoilers people! Sheesh. For this episode: Not really a bad ending for a companion - and all companions time ends, one of the tragedies of the Doctor's existence and not being able to connect excepting fleetingly. I didn't think about Rose in Torchwood in a parallel universe - interesting.
The music throughout this season was great (Girl in the Fireplace being a particular stand-out) but the Doomsday track that plays after the rift closes is just so powerful. It's stayed with me ever since the episode was first broadcast.
It's a weird fact that daleks and cybermen, two iconic elements of Doctor Who, have never shared the screen before now
Came here to say this. Such a long-awaited meeting when it first happened.
I like that the show makes clear the difference of scale. Cybermen are just no threat to the Daleks.
**gives a certain future episode some serious side-eye**
I can finally tell you that Billie's last S2 scene shot was the end of "The Satan Pit" 🤯 If you rewatch the end sequence both David & Billie are very emotional & struggle to get through it as Billie talks about "dying in battle" before Tennant says "Then it lied" 😭😭 End of an era!
Often in movies & TV shows they are filmed out of sequence due to location if some didn't know. This being the case
OMG what a tearjerker episode! I remember watching this in 2006 when it first aired, and honestly still not recovered emotionally.
22:30 Pete jumped back risking getting pulled into the void for her.
Jackie would have never forgiven him if he didn't go back.
@@gumdeo He met Rose before he met this version of Jackie though.
This was the first episode of New Who that made me cry. Knowing how badly you took Chris going (at the time I knew it was coming so it didn't hit so hard), I knew this was gonna be bad for you. We had no idea that Billie was leaving.
Murray Gold soars in this episode. The music is awesome here.
Great thing about Who, is a sad moment like Rose leaving is immediately tempered by a fun moment, Donna's reaction to being in the TARDIS!
18 minutes in
"I mean we need all these cybermen destroyed."
That's like setting your house on fire to get rid of the ants 😂
......Companions come, and they go....
I could see Russel T Davis playing with his cybermen and dalek figurines writing that speach 😂
Over the years this was the first interaction between Cybermen and Daleks and it didn't disappoint .Loved the ' you have identified as Dalek " their one and only victory from the encounter . The Pete and Jackie reunion - or should it be meeting - was tearjerking brilliant . It's a shame you found out about Rose through a spoiler , but in fairness the news Billie was leaving leaked well before this was broadcast originally .I think this was new Who at its best , well written and acted and I'm glad you are enjoying it .
DW does a great job of making the departures of Doctors and companions real tearjerkers.
time for cyberbullying, that is the bullying of the cybermen.
My responsibilty as a Norwegian: "Dårlig Ulv Stranden" a) should have an "å" in it, b) is not pronounced like that, and c) translates to "Sick Wolf Beach", NOT "Bad Wolf Bay". They really did just open a dictionary and grab the first things and left it at that, and it's extremely funny to me. Oh and the beach is very obviously in the UK, there are zero beaches like that in Norway.
It's a different universe, so you can expect a few things to be different.
Even in another universe, Wales is always Wales.
@@HarbekVideos not in this world's Norway, that's a different one 🤣
To be fair it was Rose who pronounced it that way and was only there because she heard the Doctor. It’s not like she moved there or researched it in much detail before hand. People also use bad to mean sick in the uk “I’m feeling a bit bad today” = I’m a bit sick. So it is possibly it was translated differently in that universe. And yeah Doctor Who was still pretty low budget back then so they used a UK beach.
Thank you for the interesting information though! Always interesting what non UK folks think about Doctor Who.
Just wait until they mispronounce Åshild over and over again...
FFS why do people spoil it? Do they not want people to have the unspoiled experience they did.
"Unspoiled experience". That's funny given the current nature of internet genre discourse. So many complain about spoilers but then there are all the articles about leaks or speculation of casting lists and story details of upcoming movies and shows. I remain convinced that widespread speculation of story points was a big contributor to the disappointment of the last season of Game of Thrones and the disappointment in the Star Wars sequel movies and shows and Marvel movies and shows. People build up their expectations and when the story is different from their imaginations, they claim it is terrible. Or, as in the case of GOT, some speculation gets too close to the truth that the production team changes the story so they can still have their surprise even though the reason some can guess the ending is actually a testament to the fantastic storytelling to that point. It means the story makes sense. Another case is if someone mentions a story idea on a forum the writer or showrunner might see, there is now a potential legal issue. This has happened many times. When Babylon 5 was in production, the showrunner maintained a Usenet account to discourse with fans. One of his hard rules, even now, is "no story ideas". Of course, someone suggested an idea that was already planned to be a story. That suggestion delayed that story significantly because they now had to deal with potential legal issues. Thus I am distressed about story speculation online because that is an almost guarantee that story will not happen.
He asked Rose, how long is she going to be with him.
She said forever
He panicked and volunteered her to be trapped in the parallel universe.
People either love or hate Torchwood but I really recommend it as an expansion of the DW universe. It's first season aligns with DW s3 in the viewing order if you are interested, the shows do occasionally intersect.
She has the DVD on her shelves. So close…
I agree. Sarah Jane adventures too. Like the mcu the show majorly rewards you if you’ve watched it all.
Personally I find Torchwood to be 50% crap, 40% meh, and 10% absolutely unbelievably great. That 10% makes watching the whole thing worth it. To be fair, I never watched the last season...
I do my best to only tell you spoilers out loud in my room. Otherwise I’m excited for you to see what’s next!
So sorry someone spoiled Rose's exit for you. There's no need for people to post spoilers of any kind or to hint at what might might or might not be coming up in future episodes or seasons.
In real time, we mostly knew when doctors and companions were going to leave/arrive because casting was formally announced in the press. I think many fans would prefer not to have known in advance though as it spoils the surprise.
I'm really glad Rose and her extended family got such a dramatic and fitting send-off. After two lacklustre and forgettable episodes in 'Love and Monsters' and 'Fear Her', this two-parter was further evidence that Russell knows how to pull off a season finale.
The sassy stand-off between the Daleks and Cybermen was great. It had to be one of those playground debates fans had as kids, who would win in a battle between the two!
Other than the Torchwood theme running through the season, you also picked up on how Rose and the Doctor had let their guard down too often during Series 2. Running from adventure to adventure with giddy excitement, giving the impression they were indestructible. That finally came back to bite them in this dramatic battle at London's Canary Wharf.
If you wanted to dip into Torchwood (the series) by the way, Season 1 started airing in October 2006, three months after "Series 2 of Doctor Who" (TM Angela) finished. Most of the episodes aired before the 2006 Doctor Who Christmas Special (the Torchwood two-part finale aired on New Year's Day 2007), but it's not essential.
Meanwhile, the pilot episode of The Sarah Jane Adventures also aired on New Year's Day 2007! But the full first season didn't start until after Doctor Who Season Three.
I hope that's helpful.
I haven't seen the spoilers being talked about yet. Was it people saying they're excited for the new companion in Series 3 without thinking that by saying this it's basically confirming Rose would leave?
Roses ending is bitter sweet but it’s the best case scenario for her. In the end Jackie was right in a way the only thing that would’ve stopped her travelling with the doctor was dying. She changed for the better on her travels but the only thing in her whole world was the doctor which isn’t healthy, She was losing her connections to others and even was willing to never see her mum or dad ever again. This way she gets to have a family and a life even though she’s heartbroken.
She can get involved with that world equivalent of Torchwood. She has experiences.
I worked at a best buy back in the day. People used to set the backgrounds of computers next to each other on display to Rose on one screen and the Doctor on the other, pressed against either side of the closed rift.
Shows how an actress/actor can get lucky Freema Agyeman has small part as the women worker converted. is spotted. Ended up in so many ITV, C4, BBC shows.
"Just when I think you've run out of ways to make me sick. You think hate is beautiful." Every single Doctor raises their game against the Daleks.
That lets go let's go let's go tells me she was not prepared 😅
Ugh, that is AWFUL that someone spoiled part of this for you. Come on folks, be respectful of other people who haven't seen stuff yet!
Knowing when a Doctor or companion is leaving or a new one joining is a pretty authentic experience. The BBC always announced them far in advance giving everyone plenty of time to work through the the five stages long before being able to enjoy someone's finale.
Only if you specifically looked for that info. It’s bad form now.
@@valathor95 Not when you were (or are) watching the series in real time in the UK. It is always high profile and widely reported - often years in advance. It's much harder to avoid knowing.
I love how people make these brain gymnastics to excuse spoiling things
@@themiIes what am I spoiling? I'm just saying how it was for people watching Doctor Who as it is broadcast in the UK where everyone know months if not years in advance when the big changes are due to happen. The BBC themselves make those announcements and build publicity around it.
8:20 The Daleks are a level 9 civilisation, these cybermen are a level 5 civilisation. the daleks aren't actually badmouthing the Cybermen they are just telling the truth as they see it.
Nope. still badmouthing as well.
I'm so happy that you're taking this journey with us. As good as it has been, it only keeps getting better.
My favorite l8ne, "5 Million Cybermen, no problem, one Doctor, you're scared."
“Daleks have no concept of elegance!”
“This is obvious.”
Hey, loved the video. I just had a quick reccomendation as I've seen with other reactors that the title of series 3 episode 4 always spoils apart of the episode. So if you haven't recorded that one yet avoiding the title would be a plus for the reaction to avoid spoilers
Now I had to look up the title. Yeah that's a stupid title. But that spoiler is in must episode that that's happening in 🤔trying to say it a spoiler free as possible
@@stephjovi true, but it does spoil the initial reaction of their appearance
The unspoken word, the look on the Doctor's face. What a devastating moment (that we who watched it originally never saw coming). Rose was here, all was fine, and then suddenly in the blink of any eye...she's gone. And all that is left is the infinite abyss in the heart.
Saying goodbye to rose was one of the hardest parts of this show for me
(Count Dooku voice): “I’ve been looking forward to this”
This episode is heartbreaking but at least she gets to experience life with her parents. Remember Dalek Caan.
I'm glad you mentioned the music in this reaction and I wanted to ask your opinion on the music overall, this show has like full on blockbuster level scores and every track is seeping with energy and emotions which for a tv show is incredible, truly one of those dr who quirks
I just realized that any cyber men created on earth (Yvonne for instance) would not have void stuff on them.
And somehow, the Tardis wasn't sucked into the Void, despite presumably being full of 'void-stuff' too.
a wizard did it
To do an uncle Tewwance with a few fixing lines.
The Cybermen convert in Yvonne's world have void stuff on them because they were converted using tech that had been through the void.
The TARDIS exists in a special relationship with dimensions, so void stuff would be burned off through various trips through the vortex
@@jennifermorris6848 if I had to guess it’s because they were made using tech from the other universe including materials as the cybermen didn’t have time to get set up on this Earth.
@@arch1017No, the TARDIS didn’t travel through the void to jump between universes-at least as far as we know. It travels via the time vortex which, as I understand the lore, is a transcendental wormhole kind of passage through space-time. It would have spent no “time” in the void if it was physically in it; possibly it created an alternate “time vortex” dimension to travel through but that goes beyond our knowledge of the (fictional-sorry) tech.
Spoilers prevents me from citing shows with supporting examples…
I remember Alex Kingston staring in the 1996, "The Fortunes and Misfortunes of Moll Flanders". A BBC Drama 4 episode TV series. Co staring Daniel Craig. Based on the 1772 Daniel Defoe bawdy novel.
Moll Flanders..I've got a distinct memory of Alex Kingston in a corset if I'm not mistaken 🤔👀
A bit less at times . What is called in historic fiction circles a bawdy romp .
Ah yes, the bitch fight of canary wharf. Daleks are definitely the most sassy race in the universe.
My favorite mic drop in the Dalek v Cyberman roast fight was: "...though your design is inelegant." "Daleks have no concept of elegance." "This is obvious."
Woah what's this. How'd this knife end up in my chest and who the heck Is twisting it so much 😭
It's Russel t Davis with some help from Murray Gold making the music so emotional that it gets even worse 😢
Even though it's 18 years since I saw this episode for the first time I still cry like a baby at the end.
was waiting and checking each day hoping this would finally arrive
Very emotional finale 😥 Daleks just never seem to go away, huh? Lol. At least Rose isn't alone, but unfortunately, the doctor is 😢 Our og companion crew and family is gone. Can't wait for Series 3! Any predictions, or things you want to see in Series 3?
The back and forth between the Daleks and Cybermen will always be funny.
The daleks are super intelligent and full of hatred. That means they r masters of the roast. Really needs to be used more lol.
As for the note of travel and exploration you were talking about, hell yeah. It's always interesting to see new monsters and destroy beautiful places, meet people to put in your mouth and new foods to have conversations with... Hey if you're clever those are all interchangeable. Just try not to get stranded in a parallel universe while you're at it.
I had forgotten that was how Rose’s story ended. It’s so sad, but also bittersweet. There is so much possibility for her. Forever changed, and never forgotten.
When i saw them for the first time as a young guy, i remember holding back tears at the end of Return of the King & this episode of DW in equal measure.
Catherine Tate is a comedian who had a comedy skit show with an apparently popular character that was supposed to be a teen who was annoying and had a tagline "I'm not bovvered (bothered)".
She had an episode with David playing a substitute teacher who gets her annoying treatment.
It's on TH-cam when you're ready.
Remember that feeling you got when Eccleston’s regeneration happened?… best get used to that, if you can.
This show is great at taking our emotions on a joyride, and that goes for Doctors as well as companions, as you now have finally experienced it with your first companion. So, congratulations on that. So sorry you’ll have to go through this again in the future.
It has been a constant throughout the shows history: the Doctor should not travel alone; hence why he must always have a companion… hence why we’re doomed at repeating this type of separation.
For a second I thought the notification for this upload said:
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Whenever I have mentioned a later episode, it has always been close enough that I know you've already watched it.
RTDs Daleks are great because they're such a good balance of scary, silly and funny. The burns are great, their sass is great, but as we have seen, particularly in Dalek, they can be pretty scary and threatening too.
The Dalek/Cyberman scene was like a reading challenge on Drag Race lol
I just did some word-counting for the transcript for this episode, and a whole 20% of the words spoken in this episode are said by Nicholas Briggs as the various Daleks and Cybermen. There's another recurring alien race he also voices, plus occasional one-offs. For a man who literally never shows his face in Doctor Who, he gets a LOT of work!
It's funny because I always thought that the cybermen sounded like Roger Lloyd-Pack, and thought it was him doing the voices to reflect that they were created by Lumic (a bit like going back and dubbing Boba Fett and Stormtroopers with Temuera Morrison's voice).
Guess we hear what we want to hear!
The valiant child who will die in battle so very soon technically the devil wasn't lying
This was the first time the daleks and Cyberman appeared on screen together, I remember this was a BIG deal back in 2006😃
I really enjoy watching your reactions Angela. I have a vague memory that pops up from time to time. I’ll remember a bit a information, but most of the time I don’t know know what’s happening. You keep us grounded Angela, sometimes you remind me of Candace Flynn from Phineas & Ferb ) if you haven’t seen the cartoon, check it out sometime ) and sometimes you remind me of Rose for the reasons you mentioned…you bring the light, the positivity and the hope. To me you help me see things differently, a new perspective or something I didn’t pick up on. I’m eager to see where the Doctors adventures takes us. Keep up the great videos!
You mentioning the Tardis made me think. Why wasn't the Tardis pulled in? If not for a reason, then they could have sheltered inside.
sheesh all this time later and it only hurts about half less. She brought him back man.. She helped heal his hearts and then broke ours gawd damn. We all have our doc grief cycle every regeneration but it's always still him but for nuwho it was her man the first episode of this era is Rose she's was our window into the world and she'll always be special in that way.
😢Still crying a little. Every damn time. Someone just needs to say Rose Tyler 😢
But at least she does get a nice ending with her parents united
I'm loving your reactions I've only just discovered your channel so I've subscribed because I also noticed that you've got my 2nd favourite TV series being farscape. People do need to stop with the spoilers now because I'm really excited about watching your reactions to series 3 because there's some amazing episodes coming up !
That's the trouble with people commenting on stuff, they never realise just what can be a spoiler. And so their innocent little comment, assuming everyone knows about this thing to come, can ruin things. I remember being told some stupid throw away comment about a character not dying in a show I used to watch, the person telling me thought they were being so smart by "pretending" to give me a spoiler, but it not really being one. I then guessed what scenario would lead them to thinking about something as a spoiler and then twisting it into a "not a spoiler". So they spoiled it for me. To be fair to people, I don't think they fully grasp how good people can be at working out what the logic behind their comment can tell them.
For instance, by saying Rose leaves at the end of this season it not only spoils the fact Rose is going to be written out of the show on the last episode, it also removes any fear for that character on any of the episodes prior to the last one. I resisted mentioning that Rose was not my favourite New Who companion because I realise the implication there is that there will be a different companion than Rose, and so what happens to her? For all I knew, you had no idea that Rose was not still the companion to this day.
30:45 I will tell you one thing, I too am excited for the next episode. Catherine Tate is always good value.