Battle of the Boil | Kelly Kettle v Gas Stove
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- Becky, 'Girl Outdoors' and myself review the Kelly Kettle and the Primus gas stove. Talking about the fors and against of both. Race at the end for the quickest boil.
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I guess during the excitement of the 'race', you forgot the proper way to get the Kelly Kettle off the fire, which is to grab the bail handle with both hands, keep it horizontal to the ground and lift it off. The way you took it off directly exposed your fingers right into the blast of the sizable fire you had going.
Another point for the Kettle is you'll never run out of fuel while on a trip into the outback. Unless maybe it's the Sahara desert!
Cheers mate, sounds like you really enjoyed this video 👍👍
Just watched this vid and have to say I am well impressed with you both, especially Becky. Young people could learn so much from you Becky, you clearly appreciate the good things in life like the outdoors and time with family! Really nice video!
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The Kelly's worth it for the sound difference alone!
I guess it is either the heart or the head. I love the KK for kayaking, and for going on dayhikes with my son, but for sheer convenience the gas is the winner. Fortunately, you can have more than one stove!
Try some wood pellets i have in the kelly kettle works great with alcohol gel starter
works well with porcupine shit too!
During the discussion comparing the weight between the two, I feel an important factor was missed out, the kelly kettle is all in one, but in order to boil the water on the stove, a vessel will be required to hold the water. When the gas runs out using the stove, you have a problem, and gas costs money so it's a continual expense.
Well said 👍👍
clearly Becky won this debate hands down ... what a winner !
Really enjoyed that video. I like all that banter between you two. Your daughter is a very lucky man to have you for a dad. Keep up the good work.
Thanks for your comment 👍
Oh no no no! Timer should start before you light your fire! I sense something fishy here!!!
YES !! by the time she fires up her stove, he has already spent 10 minutes messing around getting the KK started - no competition. the KK is SLOW!! - but fun
KK all the way! I love my Trekker. Plus I can also boil extra water with the pot stand and my SRO 25 oz cup or larger pot. Your daughter is a sharp kid. Good job Dad. 👍
I've got a Trekker coming in the mail and to me, they're two very different stoves for different purposes. I cook everyday on an Iwatani butane stove of the type sold in all Asian stores, and one of the drop-in cans of butane lasts me a week cooking two meals a day on the thing. I absolutely love it. But if TSHTF as they say, I won't be able to buy more butane cans, but I can always get wood etc to run the Kelly on. The Kelly is smokier, but if I use charcoal (which I can make myself) it's stealthier then. The thing is that just being able to make hot water is very important in camping or in survival. Hot drinks, soups, boiling questionable water, etc. Really, which system to have? How about both?
Heck yeah I'm ready to join the Kelly Kettle Klub!... oh, well I'll stick to my multi fuel stove
Which stove has the most black soot to deal with? .... and time to start was not measured. However, I think the Kelly Kettle has its place, especially, if there is a chance you might run out of fuel for the gas stove.
Good video A tip for Becky put a lid on when boiling and a tip for all camp fire cooking,
if you smear your pots with fairy liquid on the parts that contact the flames the black will clean off much easier. Try it and you will do it all the time.
Great tip cheers mate 👍👍
It has to be said, that is a well loved and well maintained Kelly Kettle. Good to see clean tools man!!
Love that both of you are super competitive in this and both love your set up to the bone. Makes it a better comparison !
Thanks so much! 👍👍
nice little race...should have started hers when you started your fire...to show a true amount of time the kettle takes vs fuel
1. Start the timer from setup to boil. Not just the time after the fire is lit.
2. Kelly Kettle surface area vs. the cup is also unbalanced, heat the same volume of water in the same cup!
3. Breakdown & cleanup count for camp as well.
The Kelly Kettle is amazing and a great piece of camp kit, but Becky could stop on the trail and have a warm cup'o then get back to work or walking without fuss.
They make a great duo to compliment each other, just as the two of you do as well!
Great points. And by the same standards and self same logic perhaps we include our drive time to and from the local hardware store or outfitter to buy the gas cannisters as well as packing out and disposal of empty cannisters? Gosh maybe we even include total impact of manufacturing and recycling efforts associated with the gas cannisters? (After all, if we are including "all" that goes into readiness and final end points, then lets include "all" that goes into readiness and final end point for gas systems too??) Gas cannisters must be "manufactured" then "obtained" involving huge time and resources...which are merely hidden from us while on our camping trip. In order to be completely fair....these should be considered alongside the simple gathering and disposal of natural fuel resources for the Kelly Kettle if we want a "true" equivalent comparison.......no??
As for point 2....yes surface area to the same volume of water counts......which merely means design of the system counts and affects overall efficiency....so on that count KK wins hands down correct?
Truly factor in "everything" you are wanting to factor in and I think maybe KK still wins??
I have both but as you said with the Kelly kettle the plug you can get the whistle one now mate a great investment
Kelly kettle is likely significantly better in the wind too.
A six-minute video turned into a 35 minute production!
So... if you put the Kelly kettle on the gas stove? 🤔😀
A true time test is from the start of unpacking to the water being boiled. Of course the gas stove will be quicker. But who will run out of fuel first?! For camping use gas. For survival use the Ghillie Kettle.
Kelly Kettle 2 mins 45 secs; gas roughly 4 mins 40 secs. However, if you were to start timing from when you open the cinch sacks for set-up, obviously the gas would win. Nevertheless, I have just bought a Kelly Kettle and am looking forward to using it this summer =)
Im getting a gas stove. Becky's always right!
This was fun! Looking forward to more. You already did sleeping bags and axe vs saw. What else do you two do differently? Tents, tarps, footwear, knives, wool/synthetics?
I give the win to the Kelly. Never run out of fuel and a much simpler (makes it more reliable) system.
Thanks for the ideas for video content, will be doing more in the future, 👍
It’s so funny watching how defensive your dads getting about the Kelly kettle! I’m saving up for one at the moment great vid thanks
I love the Kelly 👍👍
I use a petrol stove when I am out (msr whisperlite and Coleman sportster ) and always debate Wich style/type/fuel is best, but I don't think there is a winner, they all have thier good and bad points
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I like both systems, Dad you had work hard for yours. Becky just lounge back looking beautiful.
Love both but depends on your climate, in cold weather Kelly kettle has fire to warm you up but in winter stormy conditions you can use gas in your tent unsure I just like both
in the tent if you like breathing CO2
You could make a hot water bottle with the water from the Kelly Kettle :)
I do love the Kelly kettle but it is heavier and bulky. If you want to really go lightweight with gas, the BRS3000T will win hands down for weight and size, combined with a titanium cup and a small bottle of gas. That said, I enjoy using both and if at a base camp would use the kelly over a gas stove, on a hike though, gas or fuel stove everytime.
You cant beat taking both options, I am glad I took both on the canoe trip as they were both used quite a bit 👍
love to see the ghillie Mstove vs the gas stove, i think it would compare favorably for backpacking where the kelley is a little on the big side.
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Great video! Enjoyed the back and forth between the two of you!
Awesome! Thank you! 👍👍
I just got theTrekker, it’s so cool but I still love my Seva 123. Why not have both for different times? You are a great team, thanks for the fine video. Cheers from Washington State.
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That was a laugh, I enjoyed watching that....I've only used gas,..(...or at times an open fire) ,so for that reason and for the practicallity, Becky wins. Until of course I buy a Kelly Kettle and find a small woodland to help fuel it..😁
Great stuff guys, cheers 👍
Thanks for your comment Robert👍
What you guys have proved is for the most fun in the woods take both, as I don't have a Kelly yet is their space In the pot to possibly fit a smaller gas canister and micro stove ?
Yes there is space for a micro stove in the pot and a small gas canister in the kettle housing, Its great as you can carry the water in the kettle too with the stopper on. 👍
For convenience over a couple of days Becky is right, for practicality over long term Dean is right.
Horses for courses, but the course is changing rapidly since you uploaded this.
Now, In these times, Dean’s wisdom will prevail. But that is no critique of Becky.
Aside from the competition aspect of this video there is something so much more.
A dad lucky to have such a wonderful intelligent articulate daughter, and a daughter who won the lottery in having such a wise, long-view, loving father.
The both of you are brilliant.
Thank you both and God bless you both.
Lovely message 👍👍
I'd like to see the Kelly vs a folding wood burning stove like one of the Lixada ones.
Great banter guys :)
Cheers Ed👍👍
point the air inlet into the wind. better performance
No fair Dad you were blowing on fire LOL ... Very well done i enjoyed Watching this video .....Mark .....
Whatever it takes to win!!👍
I have both and I don't like the Kelly Kettle despite it being fast. My primary dislike is the volume of the Kelly when not in use. On mine you cannot use it to transport water when not in use and so for the most part you are carry a lot of space that is doing nothing, on top of that the chimney which runs through the kettle is no use for carrying anything either. It is also and I always have hands covered in soot using the kettle. They are cumbersome to poor from. The advantages are it is light and can burn most things which is especially useful because fuel doesn't need to be carried.
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You could always whittle a tapered bung to plug the kettle to double as a transport canteen, as for the space inside the chimney, you can use that to carry tinder, it doesn’t have to be dead space if you think about it. There is a place for both types of burner, as for my preference, I prefer the Kelly as it suits my needs. Maybe I’m just an old school low tech guy.
But you are right, if someone just uses it out of the box with no dual purpose thinking, it is cumbersome.
I use a base camp for vehicle journeys and a trekker for backpack.
0:22 I thought that was the gas canister. I actually said "HEY" out loud.
I see lots of fuel for the Kelly kettle laying around. Don't see any gas canisters.
Cheers Randy👍
Just looked back on this video buddy...I miss you guys making these videos and miss the father/daughter banter. Becky...get the Jetboil flash and get dad making the next cuppa 😂
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The kelly kettle could win with twice the water and a cold start. Also the sound of a gas stove is a bit irritating, the crackle of a fire is peaceful. I used to only bring mine on canoe camping trips because of the bulk, but I've made it my go to kit even for lightweight camping, you can pack all kinds of necessities in and around it. I made a compression plug to replace the cork so that I can carry water stored inside without a drop spilled too.
Sounds like you love the kelly kettle as much as i do, cheers mate 👍👍
In reality Becky won because if you were hiking to a campsite and said "lets race to get water boiling" hers would be boiling first because as a part of getting your water boiling you have to find wood, chop it up, get some kindling and light your fire. Becky only has to hit the switch and her pot is on the fire well you are still "preparing" to get yours started. Becky wins.
Yeah but if we were hiking I could carry fuel blocks and I would still win! LOL 👍
These little comparisons of the different styles is very informative,fun to watch. Still like the saw vs axe debate.
Advantage of gas stive is stealth for escaping or evading .
Havent used the kelly kettle may look into it for the back yard camp site. Currently using the bio lite stove/grill/kettle set up.
Great job guys!!!!
--joe
Love your comment Joe, We will have to do more debates in the future 👍
I think it is so cool how you do these pro and con test. Some people might not think of the pros and cons of each before purchasing. I do like the Kelly Kettle though. I don't think I would go somewhere without woods. For me the beach is just for fun. I also agree with the Love going into the brew or meal. I am a bit fearful of the gas .
kelly kettle seems great for you, so much fun making a brew and it costs nothing as wood is free 👍
Sounds like buster was breaking up all your kindling for you. Enjoyed the comparison, and the dialogue between you and Becky about the pros and cons. 😂👍🏼
Glad you enjoyed it, I think Buster was helping me out - male camaraderie 👍
i had a kelly kettle, but sold it as i found it was just too bulky,
But i also gave away my gas stove as i got fed up messing with half used
gas cannisters .... now i have a couple of wood stoves, most of the benefits of the
kelly kettle without the bulk.
Sound good👍What ever suits your style of campng👍
Also for space when not in use is it practical to store tea bags, coffee, sugar in the middle of the Kelly in zip locks where the wood is fed in ? Thanks always guys, loads of thumbs up 👍👍👍👍👍👍
Yes, great storage space, very practical piece of kit 👍
you really turboed the Kelly kettle while you put a very narrow pot on a wide burner gas stove, it was just burning around the pot warming the air not under the pot warming it and the water inside, I don't think that a wider pot (/narrow burner) would win over the Kelly kettle but it would improve the boiling time and reduce your gas consumption as it wont be wasted on warming the surrounding air and I recommend you to change your gas stove-pot set up in that manner for better usage
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Great video and thank you for sharing, the Kelly KETTLE LOOKED LIKE A FURNACE at one point, unlucky Becky but well done.
Think we need to see who makes a cuppa first from arriving on site :-) Becky would win hands down. :-)
Cheers, Andy are you sure?
If you're looking to buy a cooking system which your grandchildren will be able to use when you are pushing up the trees instead camping under them there isn't really a debate. ATB
I put an eco firelighter at the base of mine, light it, put the kettle on top, drop some twigs in...done in minutes. Wet wood is silly. Dad is overloading the fuel and pre-heating his, no need.
Advantages and disadvantages to both depending on the situation. Overall I would go with the gas stove for convenience and no smoke to give away your location.
Well said 👍
Concerning the time it takes to gather the wood, i several times had to waist half a day to find a place where i can buy the right gaz canister. The more it goes the more "official" camping are becoming fully equipped holiday village with kitchen and all, so the harder it get to find canister as the market of hiker is just too small for so many types of canister. So on the gathering point i would call it a draw.
Great point! 👍👍
I don't think this was a fair test. But how do you do it fair when one is lighting twigs and the other is a click of a switch? It can't be at the start of the flames, or you would have lost terribly. But you had a base fire going before the test and kept adding wood, making the fire larger and kept it hotter by blowing into it. If only using the base fire I think you still would have lost. However, you did operate it as you would have normally used it. So, good job on showing the differences. I knew you would have a boil before her anyway. With the heat coming through the middle it has a thinner layer of water to heat all the way around the kettle. Where all of her water in the cup takes longer as it is getting heat from the bottom instead of all the way around like the kettle. Loved the video and nice to see dad and daughter taking some time out in the woods. Great bonding time. Keep up the great dad job. ;)
Cheers Joe sounds like you really enjoyed the video 👍👍
The fact is that he diddled around for 5 minutes getting the KK going, in which time she could have boiled her water, made tea, and packed her rig away. I love both systems. Here's hoping they make a KK in titanium. -have to rob a bank, of course !!
At 12:00 I am wondering how you can ever pull this back. Becky has utterly won the argument on the stove and your are really clutching at straws when considering the aesthetics of kelly kettle :P However, there is something about making a fire and watching it burn which you just don't get with gas. As you say, sometimes you take something that is a little bit bulkier, requires more work and weights more but it gives you that joy.
I'm with your dad on this one Becky because you will run out of gas but dad will never run out of wood in the woods. I always go with the word KISS... KEEP IT STUPID SIMPLE and it won't go wrong.
Great saying 👍👍
Very fun competition and very informative. Well done guys👏👏👍👍😁
Cheers Jeffrey 👍
What does it matter how long it takes to boil? Is there someplace you have to be in a rush ?
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A point for the Kelley Kettle; you are cleaning up the debris that would usually contribute to a forest fire.
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Sorry,some of you guys are missing a point, the gas canisters,are not recileable, so the Kelly kettle wins,hands down
Great comparison! Great fun outdoors keep the videos coming.
Cheers Shane👍
Becky's gas stove will fit in the Kelly Kettle stove base with the hose leading out the air hole allowing it's use in the tent. At least mine does. Win win.
Cheers mate 👍👍
stuff the kettle with birch twigs and bark full ..... should inform the firefighters before cheering that everything is ok ^^
Put the gas stove in the Kelly kettle pan see how fast it is
few days camping solo, gas stove wins, but if one would travel in company, week long trek, Kelly wins hats down. two different products for different situations and size of party. nice test btw.
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To each their own. Each stove has its purpose and place. The gas stove is quick and easy. I have 4 kids under 10. If I use my gas stoves to cook they could care less. If I use my wood burning Emberlit stove my kids are running around finding and breaking sticks. For me there is a fun factor using a fire, but it is more work.
Great comment, totally agree 👍
Test was fun to watch. I prefer kelly kettle but sometimes my primus stove is handier.
So in conclusion, you can make a cup of tea quite fast if you don't take an old man and a Kelly Kettle.
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I have a kelly kettle. It is tedious and you need a perfect tiny fire... which is harder than you think. Harder than making a big fire. It gets filthy with soot also. Maybe I need to keep messing with it but I’m kind of disappointed.
Keep practicing 👍👍
A bit of wind will slow down the gas stove but will enhance the Kelly.
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Yeah but downside of the kettle is if you're in a really hot summer day you have had 2 followers not allowed will you've gotta use your gas one so yeah on Hi-Fi dangers you can't use that one so I prefer to guess because it's quick and simple
Wonderful demonstration, you two made it so fun!
Thank you 👍👍
If you feel like wine you can grab a bottle from the store, drink it. If you want wine you can brew it ferment it strain it bottle it chill it, drink it. With that said I am in girl outdoors corner except this battle. I love making fire as part of camping it feels rewarding to go threw the whole art and passion of the out doors. But I'm not a threw hiker I'm a base camper. So I feel I'm right and wrong but I'm a car base camper all the way. Bushwacker man wins my vote we would be drinking stela processing wood for a pot of stew.
Yeah great comment, like the idea of the stela and stew, Sound like a good title for a vid 👍
Dad vs daughter awesome phenomenal 👸🤴 they should do cooking Challenge
Thanks Donna, Great idea 👍
What a brilliant competition!👍 Love it. Btw: I'm a Ghillie Kettle man. Love the whistle when it's ready. Atb and cheers, Hal
Beckie's water would have heated much faster if it had been covered, though the contained and fanned flame of the wood in the kettle would likely still boiled the water first; however, Beckie is right that the butane stove is more convenient, safer, and easier to use and carry. In the end, Beckie gets the blue ribbon. :-)
Good old Becky 👍 Great point
Good challenge. That was fun. How about doing some more ? (One thing Bushwacker Man needs to learn is that woman always win.) The bottom line is that they each have their place and it depends what you are doing. For example for an established camp like your base camp that you go to often I would prefer the Kelly Kettle. However if you are on the go, like hiking the PCT then the gas stove would be my choice. Love the completion and the video.
Great comment, I'm with you all the way 👍
Great vid! Awesome comparison!
Blessings
Bcb
Cheers for your comment 👍
Bonjour So which one is the best ?
You be the judge of that 👍👍
But I don t speak english fluently
Becky wins hands down! Ha! Cheers - Luther
Cheers for your comment Luther, She won that one but she didn't win the sleeping bag!!! th-cam.com/video/FDxJNzMgkDc/w-d-xo.html
Liked your little challenge and I was surprised at the outcome I’m thinking of getting a Kelly kettle.buster & Billy will have to meet one day.
You should get one and you can make me a brew when we meet, when will this happen? waiting for the invite 👍
the boil test was not even close to fair. you had you wood prepped and ready. you pre lite the wood and then started the test. Becky could have her water boiled before you collected your wood. I agree its a nice piece of kit. but head to head the gas wins no doubt
Cheers Jim you are so right, but the Kelly is more beautiful👍👍
Hi Dean, what method do you use to clean the inside of the KK chimney ? Nice vid 😀.
Scouring pad soaked in vinegar and rub in baking powder, works great 👍👍
Bushwacker Man thanks, I’ll try it !! 👍🏻
The primus stove will be fast always but for long term use I'll go with the Kelly kettle.
Good man 👍
Becky can I ask where you got the add on ignighter please, would love one for my Coleman spider. Cheers, been subbed to GO for ages, now hopped on here.
Any good camping shop on the internet. Thanks subscribing 👍👍
it's ok it don't matter ho won it's the fun you both had that counts......... good job both of you happy camping out there always ...take care enjoy to the fullest of joy take care stay safe always .two thumbs up .. from Alaska .
The Kelly kettle would be faster if you didn’t keep suffocating it. You don’t need to keep stuffing it. It’s better to allow airflow. You shouldn’t have to blow if you don’t suffocate it. And to be fair, you should include the time it takes to make the base fire
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Ha ha great battle, worked up a bit of a sweat there Dad you going to need the extra water for a shower , great fun guys !
I needed a little sleep after making this vid👍
The KK is a little beast. So versatile too.
I enjoyed that! great video!
Cheers mate
Funny and true,good job both of you
Cheers mate glad to bring a smile👍👍
Not a fair comparison. You had to start a fire before Becky turned on her stove.
The comparison was what could heat 16fluid oz the quickest, Bushwacker is the clear winner Ha Ha👍👍👍
You two need to test folding saws, manufacturer vs. manufacturer. And then folding vs. non-folding saws for cutting wood to build a fire.
Great idea 👍👍
I reckon Becky's got you on the ropes for convenience, effort, speed and I want a cup of tea now. I guess you have a point for being a purist. I'd have both for car camping and the gas for trekking, as Becks said she can always lite a fire when ever she wants and stick the cup on a rock. You need to stop cheating, hahaha .
Muito bom! Um abraço para vocês, aqui do Brasil!
If you did it right you would have started at the same time.. So that means from when you first start your fire she should have started here as well.
If Becky had used a wind break for her stove her boil time would have been quicker by a third because her heat would have been more concentrated.
Iain Carnegie also a lid