Did demons have sexual relations with women in Genesis Chapter 6?
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- Hank Hanegraaff, the host of the 𝘉𝘪𝘣𝘭𝘦 𝘈𝘯𝘴𝘸𝘦𝘳 𝘔𝘢𝘯 broadcast and the 𝘏𝘢𝘯𝘬 𝘜𝘯𝘱𝘭𝘶𝘨𝘨𝘦𝘥 podcast, answers the question Did demons have sexual relations with women in Genesis Chapter 6? Hank contends that Jesus himself says that demons are spirit and not flesh and bone. They do not have sperm or the ability to reproduce. Furthermore, creating life is a creative act. Such acts are only under the power of God and granted to men and beast.
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I think most of the confusion on who the sons of God are come from the Masoretic text. In older Hebrew manuscripts that were being used before and after the time of Jesus the term sons of God was never found in the passages of Job 1:6, 2:1, and 38:7. It was only used in Gen. 6 or when it was referring to the children of Israel. Now it refers to believers in Christ who walk in the Spirit. That term walk in the Spirit is important to remember. In older Hebrew manuscripts the book of Job simply read "the angels of God", not the sons of God. Verse 38:7 in the Septuagint reads; When the stars were made, all my angels praised me with a loud voice. How and why these Jewish scribes changed Malak (angel) to son (ben) in these particular passages probably was because of their deliberate rejection of Jesus as the Messiah and it's no secret of their hatred for the New Testament which at that time was spreading throughout the entire middle east and eastern Europe. We have to remember the Masoretic text did not exist until almost 1000 years after Christ. I would love to hear any other thoughts on why these scribes would change the word for angel to son when they translated these verses in the book of Job. When the Septuagint was translated from Hebrew into Greek there was no bias against Christ or Christianity therefore the book of Job did not call angels the sons of God. Angels were created as servants and could never be called a son by anyone, especially God. Angels were spoken into existence; Adam was created from the earth to be a physical being. Angels were never commanded to multiply, and they do not have blood. They cannot procreate nor reproduce, if they could they still would. Jesus did warn us to beware of the scribes. Was there a problem with the scripture in Jesus's day, no. Afterwards yes, or He wouldn't have said that. Think about this, we have been using an Old Testament (Masoretic) since 1611 that was copied and altered by men who hated Christ. Look what it has done when it comes to passages like Gen. 6, is it has created division and confusion within the Church rather than clarity. God is not the author of confusion, and the Bible is not a riddle for men to guess at and wrongly interpret. How people can believe the sons of God in Genesis 6 are fallen angels is very puzzling when it's really pretty simple to see who the Bible says they are. Gen.4 gives us details of how wicked the line of Cain was, and Gen. 5 tells us that the righteous line of Seth believed on the name of the Lord, but then according to some Gen.6 reverses gears and all of the sudden we have angels involved yet strangely God blames men. That doesn't fit the context at all when you have read chapters 4 and 5. It's really very easy to determine who the identity of the sons of God are by the passage in Gen.6:3. Verse 2 says the sons of God (believers) saw how beautiful the daughters of men (unbelievers) were, so they took as many wives as the wanted (read Ezra 9) for themselves. Immediately God says, my Spirt shall certainty not remain among these MEN forever because THEY are flesh (angels are spirits) and in 120 years I am going to destroy THEM. The sons of God were men of flesh and bone whose hearts were turned to other gods by marrying the unbelieving pagan daughters from the descendants of Cain just like King Solomon's heart was changed. God caused all of them to die in the flood except for Noah and his family. Look what 3 mistranslated verses in Job caused with help from the Book of Enoch, half or more in the Body of Christ now believe in fairy tales and myth that directly attacks the deity of Christ. Unbelievable! If we are in Christ and led by the Spirit, then we are the sons of God. The genealogy of Jesus that goes all the way back to Adam reveals who the sons of God were before the flood and now everyone who is in Christ are the sons of God.
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Very helpful comment, thanks!
I disagree because Israel did not exist at the time so how can it be sons of Israel? Not only that but the true words used here are
6:2 the sons of God This Hebrew phrase, bene ha’elohim, and similar phrasings (bene elohim and bene elim) are used elsewhere in the ot only of heavenly beings (Job 1:6; 2:1; 38:7; Pss 89:6; 82:6; see Deut 32:8 and note). Thus, bene ha’elohim could refer to spiritual beings who are members of God’s council-the divine council.
@@jesseperez1753 we cannot prove what the Hebrew manuscripts of Job said before the Septuagint because none now exist. Why would Jewish scribes who translated the Hebrew into Greek before the time of Christ just say the angels of God and not sons of God? Then one thousand years after the time of Christ biased Jews who hated Christ and the Church and the New Testament all of a sudden call angels sons of God. Think it through. These particular scribes knew of the miraculous birth of Jesus, how Mary was visited by Gabriel (an angel) and told of the coming Savior but did these scribes believe that Jesus was the Messiah, absolutely not so they corrupted the text, and gave us the Hebrew manuscript that is in every KJV in the world. Imagine that.
@@chriscurtis1578 Are you saying scripture is not reliable and was changed by crazy Jews who hated Christ? Not sure where you are getting your information but, the OT was written in Hebrew. The NT was written in Greek. The Hebrew Bible or Tanak is available and reliable as also the scrolls of cumram were written in Hebrew and included Genesis. But regardless just read it with common sense, why would a union of human (sinful women) and (Godly men) produce extraordinary beings? Ie. Nephilim? In that case why don’t Christian’s or Jews producing these beings when marrying non believers, today? it makes no sense. Look at Jewish history and what they believed, look at the similarities between them and the Mesopotamian material regarding the higher gods and Abkalu , Gilgamesh, the hybrids and compare to 1st Enoch which preserves this narrative. Jude and 2 Peter accept this idea.
Some good readings for you might be Dr. Michael Heiser or Ryan Pitterson, if you are interested.
@@chriscurtis1578 Poor argument. We cannot prove so we just make things up? Why not take Scripture as it is? Your view requires changing the text. The term son of GOD is biblically consistent when you apply it as a being that GOD has created Himself. Adam Luke 3:36, Jesus, Christians, and angelic beings.
We also see numerous texts referring to both the flood and Sodom where angles sinned and sexual immorality by the angels Jude 1:6-7.
Why is this hard to believe. If angels can appear like man and eat food and drink they must have a digestive system. Why then wouldn’t they be able to manifest a reproduction system?
My thoughts exactly
Exactly, the explanation in the video contradict what the bible confirm in other scenarios
That's an interesting point! However, whenever Angels appear in the Bible, it's always at God's discretion! Also take notice, but these angels are good like Michael and Gabriel, for example not fallen Angels such as demons! Although God allows some angels to take human form, Hebrews 13: (1-2) Genesis 18: (1-16) Genesis 19: (1-22) Bible Gateway Expanded Bible. This does not change their angelic nature! Also noticed this was temporary, not permanent! Jacob wrestled with an Angel, also Angels rescued Lot. Also an angel of the Lord appeared to Moses in the burning bush 🔥, but God spoke to Moses from the burning bush 🔥! Also in Matthew 28: (1-4) an angel came down from heaven and rolled the stone away ! 🪨 No mere human being could have done that! There are no examples in the Bible, of any fallen angels, taking on human form!
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That’s an argument from silence. Just because the Bible doesn’t mention it doesn’t mean they can’t. In fact I believe it is mentioning it in this specific case.
Yes there’s lots of examples of angels doing God’s work in human form so why couldn’t fallen angels do the same. If you say it’s only the faithful angels and not fallen angels that can appear in human form then you need to be able to demonstrate this from scripture.
@@jamesb6818 camera that Jesus told his disciples after his resurrection that a spirit does not have flesh and bones such as I have! Since spirits don't have bodies, how would they acquire human bodies? Jesus also said, that which is flesh produces flesh that which is Spirit produces spirit! So, in light of this, please tell me how a fallen could acquire a human body? The Bible clearly teachers that all human beings are descendants of Adam! Jesus also said that at the Resurrection, we will be like the Angels who neither marry or are given in marriage!
BROTHER YOU ARE COMPLETELY RIGHT, GEN: 4 EXPLAIN THAT AND ONE DETAIL MAKES IT SIMPLE TO INTERPRET; GOD IS TALKING ABOUT MEN, NOT DEMONS OR ANGELS GEN. 4:26,ISAIH 43:6,7AND 44:5.
The Bible says that “the sons of God saw the daughters of men.” Two distinctly different descriptions. That’s the difference. The sons of God we’re with God. “Men” were inhabitants of earth. This is why we were required to be “born again.” The word “again”is a mistranslation. Look it up in the Strongs concordance. We are to be born from above, the “water” is the water that surrounds an infant in the womb. These sins of God left their habitation of heaven against God’s command. Think about it. Never were flesh men on earth called sons of God but children of God.
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Right! This is such a logical, well thought-out answer Demons are spirits. Although they can inhabit a body,the body is that of a thinking, feeling , flesh-and- bones human being
scripture tells us that angels can take human form and that we've entertained angels without even knowing (we would assume they're human). If God's angels have this ability, then so did the fallen
@@shaunsteele6926 Yup Yup, Shape Shifting Lizard people and yes, it is in the bible.
In 'The Book of Enoch' which was found right along with all the other books in the bible with The Dead Sea Scrolls states that Demons are from the dead Giants for they are both from Heaven and Earth (half Angel and half human) and are not stuck here till Judgement.
Hank is quite arrogant and puts limits on God I believe the book of Enoch is very credible and hank does not explain the nephilim and many other phenomena that we know existed. Genesis to the flood has a huge gap. A lot we don’t know. The almighty is mysterious and beyond our comprehension. And Gods ways are not our ways
I don't believe Hank is putting limits on God at all and what evidence do you have that the book of Enoch is credible? After studying this book, I found many false doctrines and contradictions. It is not in the canon of scripture because it contradicts scripture. The Book of Enoch is a pseudepigraphic work, which means that it falsely used Enoch’s name. The Old Testament was completed by Ezra and Nehemiah in about 420 BC. This is likely 100-200 years before the Book of Enoch was written and no matter what translation you use (I prefer the Septuagint) the giants were already present on the earth when the sons of God married the daughters of men. The sin that brought destruction to the world was the sin of being unequally yoked with unbelievers, that is why we were given so much detail from Moses in Genesis 4 and 5 about the lineage of Cain and Seth. Angels are not one time mentioned in the context of the preceding chapters and when they finally are mentioned in Genesis 19, they are not referred to as sons of God. 2 Timothy 4 warned us of what would happen if we went after fables and here we are: 3For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine, but according to their own desires, because they have itching ears, they will heap up for themselves teachers; 4and they will turn their ears away from the truth, and be turned aside to fables. Here something to research. All western bibles use the Masoretic Text for the Old Testament. This text was written one thousand years after the ascension of Jesus by Jewish scribes who rejected the Messiah and the New Testament. Here's what I want you to research. Why was the phrase angels of God in Job1:6, 2:1, and 38:7 (Septuagint) changed to sons of God by these scribes. If you can figure that one out I would love to hear what you find.@@Jericho-xs3ju
This is a two part comment:
Part 1
I wholeheartedly concur with Hank Hanegraaff's interpretation of Genesis 6. The idea that demons could have sexual relations with women is a gross distortion and an insertion of pagan mythology into the sacred text. As Luke 24:39 and Ezekiel 32:27 affirm, spirits do not possess flesh and bones. Jesus Himself clarified this, emphasizing that spirits lack a physical form. Moreover, Ezekiel's account suggests that in Sheol, the focus is on the spiritual condition rather than physical bodies. The focus is on the spiritual condition of the fallen warriors, implied by the mention of "iniquities upon their bones," rather than on their physical bodies, supporting the idea that spirits do not have flesh and bones.
It's crucial to note that nowhere in the Bible does it say that angels or demons took on physical form. However, the Angel of the Lord, often considered a physical manifestation of God Himself, did interact with humanity in a tangible way, speaking and acting with divine authority. This is because the Angel of the Lord serves as God's unique and expressive extension into His Creation, a role that angels and demons simply cannot fulfill. While God Himself took on flesh through the miraculous birth from a woman, such an act is beyond the capabilities of angels and demons. This is not merely because they lack the power to create, but because God has not ordained a pathway for such beings to manifest physically in the world, let alone mix with human DNA.
Genesis 1 clearly states that all of God's physical creations reproduce "according to their kinds," reinforcing the impossibility of hybrid human-demon offspring. This aligns perfectly with the idea that the "sons of God" are the godly descendants of Seth, while the "daughters of men" are the ungodly descendants of Cain. The union of these two lines led to the emergence of the Nephilim, who were not physical giants but influential figures, much like Nimrod.
The Bible does mention physical giants like Goliath in Numbers 13:33, Deuteronomy 2:10-11, and 1 Samuel 17:4-7. However, it's important to distinguish these figures from the Nephilim of Genesis 6, who were individuals of significant social and political status but not necessarily physical giants. They had fallen from the grace of God due to their pride, akin to the story of Cain.
The Bible offers a nuanced view: there were physical giants, and there were those who were "giant" in influence, like some of the Nephilim. Some figures may have been both, but they should not be conflated. The presence of Nephilim didn't end with the flood or biblical times. Even today, we see "modern-day Nephilim" in certain public figures who entice society to almost worship them, mixing divine wisdom with worldly desires.
The biblical narrative consistently refutes the idea of demons having sexual relations with women, most simply by not stating it, and emphasizes the importance of adhering to God's ways. We must remain steadfast in our biblical understanding, giving no room for pagan myths or misinterpretations.
Part 2 in my reply
Part 2
The Two Lamechs; from Cain, and from Seth. Two antediluvian lineages
Preface:
In this discussion, we will analyze the biblical accounts of the two Lamechs and their relation to the sons of God and the sons of men. By examining the nature and characteristics of these figures, we aim to shed light on the influence of the Nephilim, who were not necessarily physical giants but held significant social and political status in their time. The story of the two Lamechs demonstrates the consequences of the intermingling of the descendants of Seth and Cain, resulting in a wicked and powerful generation that ultimately led to God's judgment.
Preamble:
The biblical narrative of the two Lamechs highlights the contrasting lineages and lifestyles of these individuals, as well as their connection to the sons of God (descendants of Seth) and the sons of men (descendants of Cain). The sons of God were characterized by their pursuit of holiness and adherence to God's ways, while the sons of men followed their own desires, often seeking power and glory at the expense of others. The Nephilim, who emerged as a result of the union between these two bloodlines, were not necessarily physical giants but were socially and politically powerful figures who exerted tremendous influence over their contemporaries.
Nephilim are not human-demon hybrid creatures. There is no textual clues within scriptures to indicate that angels or demons intermingled with humans. The word Nephilim simply means "the fallen ones". Physical giants did exist, and do exist today. Early human history may play a part in why human genetics gave rise to much taller giants than our contemporary ones. At a time before The Flood, and during Israel's campaign to take The Promised Land, many giants used their physical stature to intimidate and persuade for the sake of power and status.
The two Lamechs illustrate the consequences of the mixing of these bloodlines, as their descendants went on to become the first musicians, metalworkers, and other skilled artisans. However, as the bloodlines merged, they also produced a generation of wicked individuals who were prone to temptation and strayed from the path of righteousness. This generation, which included the Nephilim, eventually led to God's judgment and the Great Flood.
Through the story of the two Lamechs, we can better understand the nature and influence of the Nephilim, as well as the importance of adhering to God's ways and resisting the temptations of worldly power and glory.
The Two Lamechs
These are the sons of God (Seth) and the sons of man (Cain), not the offspring of angels, who are neither male nor female.
Strong's Exhaustive Concordance
giant Or nphil {nef-eel'}; from naphal; properly, a feller, i.e. A bully or tyrant -- giant. Hebrew נְפִילִים
Genesis 6:1-5 And it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born unto them,
2 That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose.
3 And the LORD said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years.
4 There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.
5 And GOD saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.
Thus, a Nephilim is an overbearing bully, like the descendants of Cain. They were not physical giants. A descendant of Cain was Tubel-Cain who developed weaponry, and these people were killers, and disregarded God's ways. Seth's line followed God, and held to peace among men. The two lines would mix, producing perverted children so wicked they put their ancestors to shame.
Although the sons of God, from Seth, followed God's ways, they were still sinners and prone to temptation just the same, mixing with the bloodline of Cain. The sons of men, from Cain, being sinners, followed their desirous appetites for power and glory. God saw that the two bloodlines would eventually only produce one wicked seed.
Numbers 13:33 (KJV) 33 And there we saw the giants, the sons of Anak, which come of the giants: and we were in our own sight as grasshoppers, and so we were in their sight.
Numbers 13:33 (NASB) 33 There also we saw the Nephilim (the sons of Anak are part of the Nephilim); and we became like grasshoppers in our own sight, and so we were in their sight.
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Lamech
by Wayne Blank
Lamech was the name of two men in very early Bible History. One was of the line of Cain whose own descendants became the first musicians and metalworkers. The other was of the line of Seth; his most noteworthy relatives were his grandfather Enoch, his father Methuselah, the most long-lived human on record, and his son Noah of the Flood.
Lamech, Descendant of Cain
Lamech was born after Cain's exile for the murder of his brother Abel:
"And Cain went out from the presence of The Lord, and dwelt in the land of Nod, on the east of Eden. And Cain knew his wife; and she conceived, and bare Enoch: and he builded a city, and called the name of the city, after the name of his son, Enoch. And unto Enoch was born Irad: and Irad begat Mehujael: and Mehujael begat Methusael: and Methusael begat Lamech." (Genesis 4:16-18 KJV)
Lamech had two wives; some of his descendants became pastoral nomads, while others became musicians and metalworkers:
"And Lamech took unto him two wives: the name of the one was Adah, and the name of the other Zillah. And Adah bare Jabal: he was the father of such as dwell in tents, and of such as have cattle. And his brother's name was Jubal: he was the father of all such as handle the harp and organ. And Zillah, she also bare Tubalcain, an instructor of every artificer in brass and iron: and the sister of Tubalcain was Naamah." (Genesis 4:19-22 KJV)
Although generations had come and gone, what Cain had done was well-known. Whether Lamech made it plain that he was not going to be victimized by anyone because of Cain, or whether he was speaking of something more personal when he killed a man in self defense isn't clear, but either way he was almost certainly well equipped for battle. His son Tubalcain was a metalworker, and therefore also a weapon maker:
"And Lamech said unto his wives, Adah and Zillah, Hear my voice; ye wives of Lamech, hearken unto my speech: for I have slain a man to my wounding, and a young man to my hurt. If Cain shall be avenged sevenfold, truly Lamech seventy and sevenfold." (Genesis 4:23-24 KJV)
Lamech, Descendant of Seth
Lamech, of the line of Seth, was of the eighth generation from Adam and Eve (the other Lamech was of the sixth generation from Adam and Eve. Lamech died 5 years prior to The Flood (according to Genesis 7:6, the Flood came when Noah was 600; as stated below, Lamech lived 595 years after Noah's birth - although Lamech almost certainly saw the ark that his son was given to build, Lamech died 5 years before the waters came).
"And Enoch lived sixty and five years, and begat Methuselah: And Enoch walked with God after he begat Methuselah three hundred years, and begat sons and daughters: And all the days of Enoch were three hundred sixty and five years: And Enoch walked with God: and he was not; for God took him."
"And Methuselah lived an hundred eighty and seven years, and begat Lamech: And Methuselah lived after he begat Lamech seven hundred eighty and two years, and begat sons and daughters: And all the days of Methuselah were nine hundred sixty and nine years: and he died."
"And Lamech lived an hundred eighty and two years, and begat a son: And he called his name Noah, saying, This same shall comfort us concerning our work and toil of our hands, because of the ground which The Lord hath cursed. And Lamech lived after he begat Noah five hundred ninety and five years, and begat sons and daughters: And all the days of Lamech were seven hundred seventy and seven years: and he died."
"And Noah was five hundred years old: and Noah begat Shem, Ham, and Japheth." (Genesis 5:21-32 KJV)
Part 1/2 What?? Angels never took human form? Your comment assumes way too much and incorrectly so.
Sadly, there is no clarification that the belief is about fallen angels, not demons. Yes Demons are disembodied spirits so in that way the video is correct but that's not the argument. The actual belief is that fallen angels, divine beings came down and and hax sex with human women and produced abominations- divine/human hybrids. This aspect is not addressed so either the video is blatantly misleading by confusing the topic or it's not informed enough to understand the topic to talk about it. Only the creator knows which.
Second, let's examine this topic from a biblical standpoint. In Luke 17 Jesus says
26 And as it was in the days of Noah, so it will be also in the days of the Son of Man: 27 They ate, they drank, they married wives, they were given in marriage, until the day that Noah entered the ark, and the flood came and destroyed them all. 28 Likewise as it was also in the days of Lot: They ate, they drank, they bought, they sold, they planted, they built; 29 but on the day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven and destroyed them all. 30 Even so will it be in the day when the Son of Man is revealed.
So Jesus links Genesis 6 and 18, He also links these 2 with His 2nd Coming. This tells us that these events are unlike any in biblical history. That there is something that sets them all apart. So it's not a group of men having sex with women and it's not about homosexuality because we see these things in Babylon, Egypt, Canaan, and the Roman Empire.
Then we see Peter in 2 Peter also connects these 2 events but Peter says that the angels somehow sinned that it caused them to be chained in prison for it. Now we know these weren't all the angels because of Scripture. So what set this group apart?
2 Peter 2: 4 For if God did not spare the angels who sinned, but cast them down to Tartarus (deepest part of Hades) and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved for judgment; 5 and did not spare the ancient world, but saved Noah, one of eight people, a preacher of righteousness, bringing in the flood on the world of the ungodly; 6 and turning the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah into ashes, condemned them to destruction, making them an example to those who afterward would live ungodly; 7 and delivered righteous Lot, who was oppressed by the filthy conduct of the wicked 8 (for that righteous man, dwelling among them, tormented his righteous soul from day to day by seeing and hearing their lawless deeds)
We see in Genesis 18 that the LORD appeared as a man, but as soon as Abraham saw this "man" he bowed and offered the LORD rest, food and water.
Gen 18:1 Then the Lord appeared to him by the terebinth trees of Mamre, as he was sitting in the tent door in the heat of the day. 2 So he lifted his eyes and looked, and behold, three men were standing by him; and when he saw them, he ran from the tent door to meet them, and bowed himself to the ground, 3 and said, “My Lord, if I have now found favor in Your sight, do not pass on by Your servant. 4 Please let a little water be brought, and wash your feet, and rest yourselves under the tree. 5 And I will bring a morsel of bread, that you may refresh your hearts. After that you may pass by, inasmuch as you have come to your servant.”
Notice Lot has the same reaction yet no social media existed for Abraham to let Lot know the angels were coming.
Genesis 19:1 Now the two angels came to Sodom in the evening, and Lot was sitting in the gate of Sodom. When Lot saw them, he rose to meet them, and he bowed himself with his face toward the ground. 2 And he said, “Here now, my lords, please turn in to your servant’s house and spend the night, and wash your feet; then you may rise early and go on your way.” And they said, “No, but we will spend the night in the open square.” 3 But he insisted strongly; so they turned in to him and entered his house. Then he made them a feast, and baked unleavened bread, and they ate. This tells us that in the age of Abraham and Lot the LORD appearing in human form or angels appearing in human form was not uncommon. There was a process of hospitality, of welcome that both Abraham and Lot followed. They were also, not shocked or in fear as we see later in Scripture. They saw these beings and bowed and welcomed them in.
To me, this speaks of a time we have no clue about. Now let's go further back
Job 1: 6 Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the Lord, and Satan also came among them. 7 And the Lord said to Satan, “From where do you come?” So Satan answered the Lord and said, “From going to and fro on the earth, and from walking back and forth on it.”
Revelation 12 tells us who Satan is: 9 So the great dragon was cast out, that serpent of old, called the Devil and Satan, who deceives the whole world; he was cast to the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.
Genesis 6 Now it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born to them, 2 that the sons of God saw the daughters of men, that they were beautiful; and they took wives for themselves of all whom they chose. 3 And the Lord said, “My Spirit shall not strive with man forever, for he is indeed flesh; yet his days shall be one hundred and twenty years.” 4 There were [b]giants on the earth in those days, and also afterward, when the sons of God came in to the daughters of men and they bore children to them. Those were the mighty men who were of old, men of renown.
Notice the term "sons of GOD".
In Scripture, the "sons of GOD" refers to beings directly created by the LORD.
Adam: Luke 3:37 the son of Methuselah, the son of Enoch, the son of Jared, the son of Mahalalel, the son of Cainan, 38 the son of Enosh, the son of Seth, the son of Adam, the son of God.
Jesus obviously was called The Son of GOD.
Christians: Galatians 3:26 For you are all sons of God through faith in Christ Jesus.
Why? 2 Cor 5:17 Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation; old things have passed away; behold, all things have become new.
Angelic beings: Job 1:6 Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the Lord, and Satan also came among them. 7 And the Lord said to Satan, “From where do you come?”
So Satan answered the Lord and said, “From going to and fro on the earth, and from walking back and forth on it.”
Job 38:To what were its foundations fastened? Or who laid its cornerstone, 7 When the morning stars sang together, And all the sons of God shouted for joy?
(Continued in Part 2)
Part 2/2 Lastly, we have the book of Jude which 1. talks about this and 2 quotes a different book.
1. 6 And the angels who did not keep their proper domain, but left their own abode, He has reserved in everlasting chains under darkness for the judgment of the great day; 7 as Sodom and Gomorrah, and the cities around them in a similar manner to these, having given themselves over to sexual immorality and gone after strange flesh, are set forth as an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.
So some angels left their "abode" which is Heaven. This caused the LORD to punish these angels "reserved in everlasting chains under darkness for the judgment of the great day" again referencing Sodom and Gomorrah. These angels had given themselves over to sexual immorality. The context is not about the people of Sodom but the angles and what happened in Sodom. The angels were sexually immoral. they went after "strange flesh" whatever that was. and they became an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire. This is about the angels.
Then Jude quotes another book.
2. 14 Now Enoch, the seventh from Adam, prophesied about these men also, saying, “Behold, the Lord comes with ten thousands of His saints, 15 to execute judgment on all, to convict all who are ungodly among them of all their ungodly deeds which they have committed in an ungodly way, and of all the harsh things which ungodly sinners have spoken against Him.”
Now I am not saying the book of Enoch is biblical canon but Jude quotes it, not to make it canon but to show us what happened. Just like I may point to a commentary on the Bible for a passage, it doesn't make the commentary biblical canon but I'm using it to show what I believe is the meaning of that passage.
Book of Enoch: Chapter 1:9 "And behold! He cometh with ten thousands of His holy ones To execute judgment upon all, And to destroy all the ungodly: And to convict all flesh Of all the works of their ungodliness which they have ungodly committed, And of all the hard things which ungodly sinners have spoken against Him.” Excerpt From Researchers Library of Ancient Texts Vol 1. Page 5.
We also see the Book of Enoch quote Genesis 6.
Enoch chapter 6:1 “And it came to pass when the children of men had multiplied that in those days were born unto them beautiful and comely daughters. 2 And the angels, the children of the heaven, saw and lusted after them, and said to one another: “Come, let us choose us wives from among the children of men and beget us children.’ Excerpt From Researchers Library of Ancient Texts Vol 1. Page 9. Enoch chapter 7: “1And all the others together with them took unto themselves wives, and each chose for himself one, and they began to go in unto them and to defile themselves with them, and they taught them charms and enchantments, and the cutting of roots, and made them acquainted with plants. 2 And they became pregnant, and they bare great giants, whose height was three thousand ells: 3 Who consumed all the acquisitions of men. And when men could no longer sustain them, 4the giants turned against them and devoured mankind. 5 And they began to sin against birds, and beasts, and reptiles, and fish, and to devour one another’s flesh, and drink the blood.” ...Enoch chapter 9: “8 And they have gone to the daughters of men upon the earth, and have slept with the women, and have defiled themselves, and revealed to them all kinds of sins. 9 And the women have borne giants, and the whole earth has thereby been filled with blood and unrighteousness.”
Enoch chapter 10: “1Then said the Most High, the Holy and Great One spake, and sent Uriel to the son of Lamech, and said to him: 2‘ and tell him in my name “Hide thyself!” and reveal to him the end that is approaching: that the whole earth will be destroyed, and a deluge is about to come upon the whole earth, and will destroy all that is on it. 3 And now instruct him that he may escape and his seed may be preserved for all the generations of the world.” Excerpt From Researchers Library of Ancient Texts Vol 1.
Again, this doesn't make the book of Enoch biblical canon but Jude and others reference it, to inform us of the story so we can understand the biblical context. Now we can choose to not agree with this understanding but to outright reject it and not take an honest look at it biblically to me is disingenuous and misleading.
I hope it helps though, take care.
As a further note we have to ask ourselves which came first the biblical account or the pagan account?
Some have speculated that these hybrid -human/divine offspring were the originals and then came the pagan "gods" myths based on the biblical account.
What if these fallen angels had sex with human women and created these hybrids and these hybrids ruled mankind as "gods" or beings humans worshipped?
Deuteronomy:32:15...“But Jeshurun grew fat and kicked; You grew fat, you grew thick, You are obese! Then he forsook God who made him, And scornfully esteemed the Rock of his salvation. 16 They provoked Him to jealousy with foreign gods; With abominations they provoked Him to anger. 17 They sacrificed to demons, not to God, To gods they did not know, To new gods, new arrivals That your fathers did not fear. 18 Of the Rock who begot you, you are unmindful, And have forgotten the God who fathered you.
Today, we erect statues as a reminder of actual people who lived in the past. Sports figures, leaders, heroes, etc. What if idol worship, is where people worshipped statues made of rock and stone were representations of actual beings? And when the flood came and destroyed their mortal bodies these hybrids became disembodied spirits, demons that roamed the earth? What if these idols inhabited these disembodied spirits? Just some thoughts that might help with the context of Scripture.
Hope this helps.
They weren’t “Demons” they were the fallen who from heaven who mated with humans
That's demons. If you're not in/with God in Heaven then you're a demon.
So how can fallen angels have sex?
@@RL.777 what does that have to do with fallen angels banging women?
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How can angels appear as men, eat food and drink? If they can manifest eyes to see ears to hear, a nose, mouth, hair, flesh why then is it hard to think they can’t manifest a reproductive system?
@@jamesb6818 they appear like men.
This makes absolutely no sense in any way, at any part. Ghosts and demons, not synonymous. And how he makes the leap to connect to Christ's resurrection... this guy's trippin
Demons? What? You're disputing an argument that nobody has ever had. Try fallen angels. That is the issue.
Is this parody?
Thanx brother hank: I remember getting scorned/rejected by many in the church I was attending for reading your material on the END TIMES! Left that church, and am now in a body of believers who are exegeticaly solid... .
PRAISE GOD!
Wrong answer man. And they weren't demons. They were angels. Demons are the now spirits of their offspring the nephilim.
Where did you get that from?
@@IlovetheTruth Book of Enoch.
Quite right - I think the translators of the KJV were right with the word - Giants - although all modern translations have not translated the Herbrew - Nephilim! But it says in Gen 6:4 that there were giants in the earth in those days and after that, when the sons of God..... so it would imply that these giants were already there (before) the mingling of the Godly and ungodly lines.
How about a video on this subject while exploring the original Hebrew wordage of Genesis 6.
It's written that some angels have not kept their estate but left their habitation. Jude 1:6
@Mirro.555 Not seeing how that makes the case for the sons of God in Genesis 6 being angels? See www.equip.org/bible_answers/did-demons-have-sexual-relations-with-women-in-genesis-64/ www.equip.org/articles/who-were-the-sons-of-god-in-genesis-6-/
Amen Amen Bible TRUTH is Important PRAISE THE Lord
Well said, I am amazed at how easily scripture is misinterpreted. Excellent, I come to the exact same interpretation when I read Genesis 6. It's sad to see how easily people can forget the angels and demons are created spirits. I think it comes from too much so called Bible studying where they read a few verses in different books of the Bible without reading full chapters or books in one sitting. Still no excuse, the scriptures are clear. Great video, I pray you and your family are doing well and are in good health. God Bless 🙏
Given your response is not the Orthodox belief, how do you reconcile this?
@@domega7392 it is wrong
Not all Church Fathers supported the idea of angel-human hybrids.
@Matthew Kirkley - you are misinformed about the "Orthodox" belief.
There were Orthodox interpreters that held the Seth falling in unions with the daughters of Cain. See Ephrem the Syrian, Commentary on Genesis 6.3.1. And there is no such thing as “the Orthodox view” regarding Genesis 6:4. Multiple Eastern Fathers hold Hank’s view and there is no conciliar pronouncement.
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@@BibleAnswerMan Part 1/2 Sadly, there is no clarification that the belief is about fallen angels, not demons. Yes Demons are disembodied spirits so in that way the video is correct but that's not the argument. The actual belief is that fallen angels, divine beings came down and and hax sex with human women and produced abominations- divine/human hybrids. This aspect is not addressed so either the video is blatantly misleading by confusing the topic or it's not informed enough to understand the topic to talk about it. Only the creator knows which. This is a bit if a read but hopefully, it can show that there is a solid biblical foundation for us to discuss this topic.
Second, let's examine this topic from a biblical standpoint. In Luke 17 Jesus says
26 And as it was in the days of Noah, so it will be also in the days of the Son of Man: 27 They ate, they drank, they married wives, they were given in marriage, until the day that Noah entered the ark, and the flood came and destroyed them all. 28 Likewise as it was also in the days of Lot: They ate, they drank, they bought, they sold, they planted, they built; 29 but on the day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven and destroyed them all. 30 Even so will it be in the day when the Son of Man is revealed.
So Jesus links Genesis 6 and 18, He also links these 2 with His 2nd Coming. This tells us that these events are unlike any in biblical history. That there is something that sets them all apart. So it's not a group of men having sex with women and it's not about homosexuality because we see these things in Babylon, Egypt, Canaan, and the Roman Empire.
Then we see Peter in 2 Peter also connects these 2 events but Peter says that the angels somehow sinned that it caused them to be chained in prison for it. Now we know these weren't all the angels because of Scripture. So what set this group apart?
2 Peter 2: 4 For if God did not spare the angels who sinned, but cast them down to Tartarus (deepest part of Hades) and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved for judgment; 5 and did not spare the ancient world, but saved Noah, one of eight people, a preacher of righteousness, bringing in the flood on the world of the ungodly; 6 and turning the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah into ashes, condemned them to destruction, making them an example to those who afterward would live ungodly; 7 and delivered righteous Lot, who was oppressed by the filthy conduct of the wicked 8 (for that righteous man, dwelling among them, tormented his righteous soul from day to day by seeing and hearing their lawless deeds)
We see in Genesis 18 that the LORD appeared as a man, but as soon as Abraham saw this "man" he bowed and offered the LORD rest, food and water.
Gen 18:1 Then the Lord appeared to him by the terebinth trees of Mamre, as he was sitting in the tent door in the heat of the day. 2 So he lifted his eyes and looked, and behold, three men were standing by him; and when he saw them, he ran from the tent door to meet them, and bowed himself to the ground, 3 and said, “My Lord, if I have now found favor in Your sight, do not pass on by Your servant. 4 Please let a little water be brought, and wash your feet, and rest yourselves under the tree. 5 And I will bring a morsel of bread, that you may refresh your hearts. After that you may pass by, inasmuch as you have come to your servant.”
Notice Lot has the same reaction yet no social media existed for Abraham to let Lot know the angels were coming.
Genesis 19:1 Now the two angels came to Sodom in the evening, and Lot was sitting in the gate of Sodom. When Lot saw them, he rose to meet them, and he bowed himself with his face toward the ground. 2 And he said, “Here now, my lords, please turn in to your servant’s house and spend the night, and wash your feet; then you may rise early and go on your way.” And they said, “No, but we will spend the night in the open square.”
3 But he insisted strongly; so they turned in to him and entered his house. Then he made them a feast, and baked unleavened bread, and they ate.
This tells us that in the age of Abraham and Lot the LORD appearing in human form or angels appearing in human form was not uncommon. There was a process of hospitality, of welcome that both Abraham and Lot followed. They were also, not shocked or in fear as we see later in Scripture. They saw these beings and bowed and welcomed them in.
To me, this speaks of a time we have no clue about. Now let's go further back
Job 1: 6 Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the Lord, and Satan also came among them. 7 And the Lord said to Satan, “From where do you come?” So Satan answered the Lord and said, “From going to and fro on the earth, and from walking back and forth on it.”
Revelation 12 tells us who Satan is: 9 So the great dragon was cast out, that serpent of old, called the Devil and Satan, who deceives the whole world; he was cast to the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.
Genesis 6 Now it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born to them, 2 that the sons of God saw the daughters of men, that they were beautiful; and they took wives for themselves of all whom they chose.
3 And the Lord said, “My Spirit shall not strive with man forever, for he is indeed flesh; yet his days shall be one hundred and twenty years.” 4 There were [b]giants on the earth in those days, and also afterward, when the sons of God came in to the daughters of men and they bore children to them. Those were the mighty men who were of old, men of renown.
Notice the term "sons of GOD".
In Scripture, the "sons of GOD" refers to beings directly created by the LORD.
Adam: Luke 3:37 the son of Methuselah, the son of Enoch, the son of Jared, the son of Mahalalel, the son of Cainan, 38 the son of Enosh, the son of Seth, the son of Adam, the son of God.
Jesus obviously was called The Son of GOD.
Christians: Galatians 3:26 For you are all sons of God through faith in Christ Jesus.
Why? 2 Cor 5:17 Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation; old things have passed away; behold, all things have become new.
Angelic beings: Job 1:6 Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the Lord, and Satan also came among them. 7 And the Lord said to Satan, “From where do you come?”
So Satan answered the Lord and said, “From going to and fro on the earth, and from walking back and forth on it.”
Job 38:To what were its foundations fastened? Or who laid its cornerstone, 7 When the morning stars sang together, And all the sons of God shouted for joy?
(continued in Part 2)
@@BibleAnswerMan Part 2/2 Lastly, we have the book of Jude which 1. talks about this and 2 quotes a different book.
1. 6 And the angels who did not keep their proper domain, but left their own abode, He has reserved in everlasting chains under darkness for the judgment of the great day; 7 as Sodom and Gomorrah, and the cities around them in a similar manner to these, having given themselves over to sexual immorality and gone after strange flesh, are set forth as an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.
So some angels left their "abode" which is Heaven. This caused the LORD to punish these angels "reserved in everlasting chains under darkness for the judgment of the great day" again referencing Sodom and Gomorrah. These angels had given themselves over to sexual immorality. The context is not about the people of Sodom but the angles and what happened in Sodom. The angels were sexually immoral. they went after "strange flesh" whatever that was. and they became an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire. This is about the angels.
Then Jude quotes another book.
2. 14 Now Enoch, the seventh from Adam, prophesied about these men also, saying, “Behold, the Lord comes with ten thousands of His saints, 15 to execute judgment on all, to convict all who are ungodly among them of all their ungodly deeds which they have committed in an ungodly way, and of all the harsh things which ungodly sinners have spoken against Him.”
Now I am not saying the book of Enoch is biblical canon but Jude quotes it, not to make it canon but to show us what happened. Just like I may point to a commentary on the Bible for a passage, it doesn't make the commentary biblical canon but I'm using it to show what I believe is the meaning of that passage.
Book of Enoch: Chapter 1:9 "And behold! He cometh with ten thousands of His holy ones To execute judgment upon all, And to destroy all the ungodly:
And to convict all flesh Of all the works of their ungodliness which they have ungodly committed, And of all the hard things which ungodly sinners have spoken against Him.”
Excerpt From Researchers Library of Ancient Texts Vol 1. Page 5.
We also see the Book of Enoch quote Genesis 6.
Enoch chapter 6:1 “And it came to pass when the children of men had multiplied that in those days were born unto them beautiful and comely daughters.
2 And the angels, the children of the heaven, saw and lusted after them, and said to one another: “Come, let us choose us wives from among the children of men and beget us children.’
Excerpt From Researchers Library of Ancient Texts Vol 1. Page 9.
Enoch chapter 7: “1And all the others together with them took unto themselves wives, and each chose for himself one, and they began to go in unto them and to defile themselves with them, and they taught them charms and enchantments, and the cutting of roots, and made them acquainted with plants.
2 And they became pregnant, and they bare great giants, whose height was three thousand ells: 3 Who consumed all the acquisitions of men. And when men could no longer sustain them, 4the giants turned against them and devoured mankind. 5 And they began to sin against birds, and beasts, and reptiles, and fish, and to devour one another’s flesh, and drink the blood.”
...Enoch chapter 9: “8 And they have gone to the daughters of men upon the earth, and have slept with the women, and have defiled themselves, and revealed to them all kinds of sins. 9 And the women have borne giants, and the whole earth has thereby been filled with blood and unrighteousness.”
Enoch chapter 10: “1Then said the Most High, the Holy and Great One spake, and sent Uriel to the son of Lamech, and said to him:
2‘ and tell him in my name “Hide thyself!” and reveal to him the end that is approaching: that the whole earth will be destroyed, and a deluge is about to come upon the whole earth, and will destroy all that is on it.
3 And now instruct him that he may escape and his seed may be preserved for all the generations of the world.”
Excerpt From Researchers Library of Ancient Texts Vol 1.
Again, this doesn't make the book of Enoch biblical canon but Jude and others reference it, to inform us of the story so we can understand the biblical context. Now we can choose to not agree with this understanding but to outright reject it and not take an honest look at it biblically to me is disingenuous and misleading. I hope it helps though, take care.
As a further note we have to ask ourselves which came first the biblical account or the pagan account?
Some have speculated that these hybrid -human/divine offspring were the originals and then came the pagan "gods" myths based on the biblical account.
What if these fallen angels had sex with human women and created these hybrids and these hybrids ruled mankind as "gods" or beings humans worshipped?
Deuteronomy:32:15...“But Jeshurun grew fat and kicked; You grew fat, you grew thick, You are obese!
Then he forsook God who made him, And scornfully esteemed the Rock of his salvation.
16 They provoked Him to jealousy with foreign gods; With abominations they provoked Him to anger.
17 They sacrificed to demons, not to God, To gods they did not know, To new gods, new arrivals That your fathers did not fear.
18 Of the Rock who begot you, you are unmindful, And have forgotten the God who fathered you.
Today, we erect statues as a reminder of actual people who lived in the past. Sports figures, leaders, heroes, etc. What if idol worship, is where people worshipped statues made of rock and stone were representations of actual beings? And when the flood came and destroyed their mortal bodies these hybrids became disembodied spirits, demons that roamed the earth? What if these idols inhabited these disembodied spirits? Just some thoughts that might help with the context of Scripture.
You are having a hard time with this Bible verse because you start with a false premise or understanding.
1)The Bible does not say demons had sexual relations with women, but angels. Fallen angels and demons are not the same thing. 2)Jesus brought up the subject of ghosts to prove he was not one and asked if they had food to eat to prove he had a physical body and was not a spirit. Angels can transform to look like humans and eat as proven through scripture in many occasions, for example Judges 13:15. 3) if there was nothing extra ordinary about these “sons of god” but merely descendants of Seth as some claim, why the abnormal offspring?(giants). Humans having relationships with humans do not produce nephilim giants. 4) who are the angels in the abyss (Jude 6;2 Peter2:4)what did they do that was so bad that they were locked up immediately unlike the other fallen angels that roam around with Satan (Job1:6, 2:1) and present themselves before God. Who by the way are called “sons of God”(these are obviously not human but angels). Well the answer is there in Jude; they left their “abode”(Heavenly positions) and did the unnatural “sexual immorality” like Sodom and Gomorrah doing the unnatural (Jude7)
I totally agree.
Is there not a difference between fallen angels and demons? Could it be the fallen angels that left there proper domain as Jude states?
@StandUp777 - Fallen angels and demons are synonymous. Why would they be different?
@BibleAnswerMan I don't know. Never heard they were the same. I'd love if you could show me in scripture where it says that so I could learn more! Thanks!
@BibleAnswerMan nothing in scripture? I did some investigating. Seems they definitely could be different. Either way, doesn't mean they were intimate with women, and evil is evil!
The Bible is clear that demons hate humans.
Hank’s got this one wrong, mostly. Gen 6:4 doesn’t reference demons. The words in Hebrew are “sons of God” and EVERYWHERE in Scripture that term is used it’s used exclusively of divine beings aka angels / God’s “heavenly host”, and also of believers in the New Testament. Everywhere angels appear in the Old Testament they have physical bodies and look like men, so they absolutely have the capability to have sexual relations. Jude and Peter both reference that these angels “sinned” and are awaiting judgment in the abyss. This isn’t a difficult question to answer, Scripture plainly teaches what happened and the consequences associated with it. You simply can’t get around the fact that the Hebrew for “sons of God” is always used in reference to divine beings.
The Sons of God are the children of Adam through Seth... _"Luke 3:38 Which was the son of Enos, which was the son of Seth, which was the son of _*_Adam, which was the son of God."_* -- compare to Genesis 5. The Daughters of Men were of the lineage of Cain -- see Genesis 6.
Adam's lineage is identified through Seth, and St. Luke settled it by listing Adam as _"the son of God."_ Moreover, John 1:12 _"But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God..."_ Please try to avoid absolutes like "EVERYWHERE."
Absurd
Paul called believers in Christ sons of God. Also God says that earth shall only produce living creatures of their kinds
@@dist221 your arguments lack and contradict the same bible. There is a big difference in words usage in old and new testament. The only one who claim himself as Son of God in the new Testament was Jesus, after that the meaning of son of God was referred to believers. Now in the old testament is totally different, it is referred only to divine beings. Now that God intended that only each kind can reproduce, totally makes sense why these angels are captive for their transgressions and waiting to be judged as the book of Jude States.
@@TheAponemesis Ok and you are entittled to your opinion but I don't agree with you. Take care
AMEN AMEN THANK YOU FOR THE TRUTH
According to Genesis they were sons of god, so Jesus and his brothers.
Part 2/2 Lastly, we have the book of Jude which 1. talks about this and 2 quotes a different book.
1. 6 And the angels who did not keep their proper domain, but left their own abode, He has reserved in everlasting chains under darkness for the judgment of the great day; 7 as Sodom and Gomorrah, and the cities around them in a similar manner to these, having given themselves over to sexual immorality and gone after strange flesh, are set forth as an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.
So some angels left their "abode" which is Heaven. This caused the LORD to punish these angels "reserved in everlasting chains under darkness for the judgment of the great day" again referencing Sodom and Gomorrah. These angels had given themselves over to sexual immorality. The context is not about the people of Sodom but the angles and what happened in Sodom. The angels were sexually immoral. they went after "strange flesh" whatever that was. and they became an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire. This is about the angels.
Then Jude quotes another book.
2. 14 Now Enoch, the seventh from Adam, prophesied about these men also, saying, “Behold, the Lord comes with ten thousands of His saints, 15 to execute judgment on all, to convict all who are ungodly among them of all their ungodly deeds which they have committed in an ungodly way, and of all the harsh things which ungodly sinners have spoken against Him.”
Now I am not saying the book of Enoch is biblical canon but Jude quotes it, not to make it canon but to show us what happened. Just like I may point to a commentary on the Bible for a passage, it doesn't make the commentary biblical canon but I'm using it to show what I believe is the meaning of that passage.
Book of Enoch: Chapter 1:9 "And behold! He cometh with ten thousands of His holy ones To execute judgment upon all, And to destroy all the ungodly: And to convict all flesh Of all the works of their ungodliness which they have ungodly committed, And of all the hard things which ungodly sinners have spoken against Him.” Excerpt From Researchers Library of Ancient Texts Vol 1. Page 5.
We also see the Book of Enoch quote Genesis 6.
Enoch chapter 6:1 “And it came to pass when the children of men had multiplied that in those days were born unto them beautiful and comely daughters. 2 And the angels, the children of the heaven, saw and lusted after them, and said to one another: “Come, let us choose us wives from among the children of men and beget us children.’ Excerpt From Researchers Library of Ancient Texts Vol 1. Page 9. Enoch chapter 7: “1And all the others together with them took unto themselves wives, and each chose for himself one, and they began to go in unto them and to defile themselves with them, and they taught them charms and enchantments, and the cutting of roots, and made them acquainted with plants. 2 And they became pregnant, and they bare great giants, whose height was three thousand ells: 3 Who consumed all the acquisitions of men. And when men could no longer sustain them, 4the giants turned against them and devoured mankind. 5 And they began to sin against birds, and beasts, and reptiles, and fish, and to devour one another’s flesh, and drink the blood.” ...Enoch chapter 9: “8 And they have gone to the daughters of men upon the earth, and have slept with the women, and have defiled themselves, and revealed to them all kinds of sins. 9 And the women have borne giants, and the whole earth has thereby been filled with blood and unrighteousness.”
Enoch chapter 10: “1Then said the Most High, the Holy and Great One spake, and sent Uriel to the son of Lamech, and said to him: 2‘ and tell him in my name “Hide thyself!” and reveal to him the end that is approaching: that the whole earth will be destroyed, and a deluge is about to come upon the whole earth, and will destroy all that is on it. 3 And now instruct him that he may escape and his seed may be preserved for all the generations of the world.” Excerpt From Researchers Library of Ancient Texts Vol 1.
Again, this doesn't make the book of Enoch biblical canon but Jude and others reference it, to inform us of the story so we can understand the biblical context. Now we can choose to not agree with this understanding but to outright reject it and not take an honest look at it biblically to me is disingenuous and misleading.
I hope it helps though, take care.
As a further note we have to ask ourselves which came first the biblical account or the pagan account?
Some have speculated that these hybrid -human/divine offspring were the originals and then came the pagan "gods" myths based on the biblical account.
What if these fallen angels had sex with human women and created these hybrids and these hybrids ruled mankind as "gods" or beings humans worshipped?
Deuteronomy:32:15...“But Jeshurun grew fat and kicked; You grew fat, you grew thick, You are obese! Then he forsook God who made him, And scornfully esteemed the Rock of his salvation. 16 They provoked Him to jealousy with foreign gods; With abominations they provoked Him to anger. 17 They sacrificed to demons, not to God, To gods they did not know, To new gods, new arrivals That your fathers did not fear. 18 Of the Rock who begot you, you are unmindful, And have forgotten the God who fathered you.
Today, we erect statues as a reminder of actual people who lived in the past. Sports figures, leaders, heroes, etc. What if idol worship, is where people worshipped statues made of rock and stone were representations of actual beings? And when the flood came and destroyed their mortal bodies these hybrids became disembodied spirits, demons that roamed the earth? What if these idols inhabited these disembodied spirits? Just some thoughts that might help with the context of Scripture. I hope this helps.
Thanks for the point of view. But the fallen angels view of the sons of God in Genesis 6 creates more problems than solutions. See www.equip.org/bible_answers/did-demons-have-sexual-relations-with-women-in-genesis-64/ www.equip.org/articles/who-were-the-sons-of-god-in-genesis-6-/
It's not demons. It's the Watchers/Fallen Angels. The belief of early Jews was not that Demons were fallen angels. They were the disembodied spirits of the nephilim. People who actually know Hebrew and study ancient Hebrew belief would disagree with Hank.
@asparapee4213 What is the source for the purported teaching that Jews believed beings called the Watchers that were neither human nor angel/demon? Was that the consensus of ancient Judaism?
@@BibleAnswerMan I invite you to do a deep dive into Michael Heiser's work. Looking at extra biblical texts like the Book of Enoch, (they are not canon, but they do give insight into the general belief of the society at large) we can gather that the Sons of God were the Angels/Watchers. The term Sons of God appears 5 times in the Old Testament. Each time the phrase is used (not to be confused with calling a Christian a son of God) it is referring to angelic or supernatural beings. Demons are the disembodied spirits of the unholy union of the Watcher/Sons of God/Fallen Angels and mortal women. This explanation also dovetails nicely with the pagan beliefs of all the peoples of the world, people and cultures separated by thousands of miles all referring to the same general story. "Little g" gods sleeping with mortal women to create demigods or "Men of Renown" as they are called in Genesis 6.
Satan rebelled in the first earth age, read 2Peter 3:6-9. Then you can get the bigger picture. There are plenty more scriptures that address the first earth and Heaven age where Satan rebelled against God. Once one understands what happened prior to this earth age, it all makes sense and we can then understand why the “sons of God” tried to pollute the seed line of Christ, to prevent Messiah from coming. Satan knew he was doomed, he had already been judged by God and sentenced to turn to ashes from within.
@mdelaney9008 Can you show from the 2 Peter 3:6-9 below the idea of Satan being first to rebel in the first age?
6 Whereby the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished: 7 But the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men.
8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.
9 The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.
(2 Pet. 3:6-9 KJV)
Part 1/2 This is just sad to see. First, the video's premise is wrong. It's not Demons but fallen angels. The fact that this is not clarified is biblically problematic.
Yes Demons are disembodied spirits so in that way the video is correct but that's not the argument. The actual belief is that fallen angels, divine beings came down and and hax sex with human women and produced abominations- divine/human hybrids. This aspect is not addressed so either the video is blatantly misleading by confusing the topic or it's not informed enough to understand the topic to talk about it. Only the creator knows which.
Second, let's examine this topic from a biblical standpoint. In Luke 17 Jesus says
26 And as it was in the days of Noah, so it will be also in the days of the Son of Man: 27 They ate, they drank, they married wives, they were given in marriage, until the day that Noah entered the ark, and the flood came and destroyed them all. 28 Likewise as it was also in the days of Lot: They ate, they drank, they bought, they sold, they planted, they built; 29 but on the day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven and destroyed them all. 30 Even so will it be in the day when the Son of Man is revealed.
So Jesus links Genesis 6 and 18, He also links these 2 with His 2nd Coming. This tells us that these events are unlike any in biblical history. That there is something that sets them all apart. So it's not a group of men having sex with women and it's not about homosexuality because we see these things in Babylon, Egypt, Canaan, and the Roman Empire.
Then we see Peter in 2 Peter also connects these 2 events but Peter says that the angels somehow sinned that it caused them to be chained in prison for it. Now we know these weren't all the angels because of Scripture. So what set this group apart?
2 Peter 2: 4 For if God did not spare the angels who sinned, but cast them down to Tartarus (deepest part of Hades) and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved for judgment; 5 and did not spare the ancient world, but saved Noah, one of eight people, a preacher of righteousness, bringing in the flood on the world of the ungodly; 6 and turning the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah into ashes, condemned them to destruction, making them an example to those who afterward would live ungodly; 7 and delivered righteous Lot, who was oppressed by the filthy conduct of the wicked 8 (for that righteous man, dwelling among them, tormented his righteous soul from day to day by seeing and hearing their lawless deeds)
We see in Genesis 18 that the LORD appeared as a man, but as soon as Abraham saw this "man" he bowed and offered the LORD rest, food and water.
Gen 18:1 Then the Lord appeared to him by the terebinth trees of Mamre, as he was sitting in the tent door in the heat of the day. 2 So he lifted his eyes and looked, and behold, three men were standing by him; and when he saw them, he ran from the tent door to meet them, and bowed himself to the ground, 3 and said, “My Lord, if I have now found favor in Your sight, do not pass on by Your servant. 4 Please let a little water be brought, and wash your feet, and rest yourselves under the tree. 5 And I will bring a morsel of bread, that you may refresh your hearts. After that you may pass by, inasmuch as you have come to your servant.”
Notice Lot has the same reaction yet no social media existed for Abraham to let Lot know the angels were coming.
Genesis 19:1 Now the two angels came to Sodom in the evening, and Lot was sitting in the gate of Sodom. When Lot saw them, he rose to meet them, and he bowed himself with his face toward the ground. 2 And he said, “Here now, my lords, please turn in to your servant’s house and spend the night, and wash your feet; then you may rise early and go on your way.” And they said, “No, but we will spend the night in the open square.” 3 But he insisted strongly; so they turned in to him and entered his house. Then he made them a feast, and baked unleavened bread, and they ate. This tells us that in the age of Abraham and Lot the LORD appearing in human form or angels appearing in human form was not uncommon. There was a process of hospitality, of welcome that both Abraham and Lot followed. They were also, not shocked or in fear as we see later in Scripture. They saw these beings and bowed and welcomed them in.
To me, this speaks of a time we have no clue about. Now let's go further back
Job 1: 6 Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the Lord, and Satan also came among them. 7 And the Lord said to Satan, “From where do you come?” So Satan answered the Lord and said, “From going to and fro on the earth, and from walking back and forth on it.”
Revelation 12 tells us who Satan is: 9 So the great dragon was cast out, that serpent of old, called the Devil and Satan, who deceives the whole world; he was cast to the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.
Genesis 6 Now it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born to them, 2 that the sons of God saw the daughters of men, that they were beautiful; and they took wives for themselves of all whom they chose. 3 And the Lord said, “My Spirit shall not strive with man forever, for he is indeed flesh; yet his days shall be one hundred and twenty years.” 4 There were [b]giants on the earth in those days, and also afterward, when the sons of God came in to the daughters of men and they bore children to them. Those were the mighty men who were of old, men of renown.
Notice the term "sons of GOD".
In Scripture, the "sons of GOD" refers to beings directly created by the LORD.
Adam: Luke 3:37 the son of Methuselah, the son of Enoch, the son of Jared, the son of Mahalalel, the son of Cainan, 38 the son of Enosh, the son of Seth, the son of Adam, the son of God.
Jesus obviously was called The Son of GOD.
Christians: Galatians 3:26 For you are all sons of God through faith in Christ Jesus.
Why? 2 Cor 5:17 Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation; old things have passed away; behold, all things have become new.
Angelic beings: Job 1:6 Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the Lord, and Satan also came among them. 7 And the Lord said to Satan, “From where do you come?”
So Satan answered the Lord and said, “From going to and fro on the earth, and from walking back and forth on it.”
Job 38:To what were its foundations fastened? Or who laid its cornerstone, 7 When the morning stars sang together, And all the sons of God shouted for joy?
(Continued in Part 2)
they weren't "demons", they were fallen angels. People tend to think they're the same thing but the fallen angels are actually much more powerful than demons. They not only procreated with human women, but they taught us how to war against each other and gave us all kinds of technological knowledge.
Very true. The demons are more likely the disembodied spirits of the fallen angel's children.
THANK YOU FOR CONFIRMING WHAT THE LORD HAS SHOWN ME THROUGH THE SCRIPTURES. CHRIST MADE IT CLEAR IN MATTHEW 22:29, 30 THAT ANGELS CANNOT HAVE SEXUAL RELATIONSHIPS WITH PEOPLE. THIS DEBUNKS THE NEPHILIM PIFFEL WHICH ORIGINATED IN THE APOCRYPHA - EXTRA WRITINGS ADDED TO BIBLES BY THE JESUITS TO DELIBERATELY CONFUSE CHRISTIANS AS THEY HAVE DONE THROUGHOUT THE YEARS WITH OTHER MISLEADING INFORMATION ETC!!
The 14 extra-canonical books of the Old Testament Apocrypha were not "added in there by the Jesuits".
It is clear by specific, Apocryphal & Pseudepigraphical quotations found in verses in Jude & other Canonical books of the Bible that 1 Enoch & the 14 Apocryohal books were already part of in the ancient (Old Testament) Hebrew Canon of the Jewish Scriptures written in Greek (i.e., the Septuagint, an authoritative source, which was translated in A.D. 285-247 B.C., by 72 Jewish Rabbinical scholars & Scriptorians from the original, ancient, Biblical Hebrew,), that Jesus & His original 12 Apostles (as well as the Sanhedrin) used in their lifetime, 2000 years ago.
It is a well-known historical fact that the 14 Old Testament Apocryphal books were first taken out of the recognized, mainstream, Scriptural Canon of the Jewish & Christian Bibles in English translation [used by pseudo-"Liberal" or so-called "Progressive", nontraditional, or Reformed Jews---though retained or not taken out by other the major sects or parties/ factions of the Conservative (modern-day Sadducees), Orthodox (modern-day Pharisees), & Hasidic (modern-day Essenes, the stricted, most literal or observant)-- & published in the United States of America, circa A.D. 1885.
The Jesuit Order of the Society of Jesus was did not even exist until A.D. 1540, about 1500 years after most of the New Testament books of the Bible were originally written in ancient (Koine) Greek.
Study the facts. A simple Wikipedia check of all known, basic/ general, official, collected data on the
topic of "the Jesuits", as I just did, plainly reveals that your opinions (not actual, confirmed or verified, authoritative, historical facts) are incorrect, not evidence based, or you're heeding unsubstantiated questionable, suspect, indirect, lesser, 2nd or 3rd person, hearsay/ gossip/ rumor/ popular culture/ urban legend, myth/ superstition/ manmade tradition/ vain, prideful/ haughty/ arrogant imagination/ mere speculation/ misinformation, & exaggerated sources, according to the long-attested, well-documented, carefully-recorded & preserved, known historical record.
One, Roman-Catholic priest & theologian, Ignatius of Loyola, with six companions, & the approval & financial backing of Pope Paul III, first founded the Jesuit Order of the Society of Jesus in A.D. 1540,
The Western, Imperial or official State "Catholic" church was founded on the earliest heresy or blasphemy of (Pagan Babylonian-tradition based) Romanism in the late-4th century, by Bishop Augustine of Hyppo (North Africa) & Jerome (who tampered with the inspired Word of God by subtly changing the actual meaning of the words intended by God in their original ancient Hebrew & Greek languages & context, & wrote the Latin Vulgate translation of the Holy Bible, Old & New Testaments, with the Apocrypha or Deutero-Canonical or extra books) A.D. by There were also 18, other, former or "lost" books of The Old Testament of the Holy Bible, listed in 1-2 Samuel, etc., et. al, several of which have been found, over the past 200 years, which have been translated into English by expert scholars & linguist authorities, since then.
There have also been an additional 118 New Testament Apocryphal books (Gospel-accounts & additional, forgotten, Epistles or Letters according to the rest of the 12 Apostles, & later, the Ante-Nicene Fathers, etc.), written over the late-1st to the late- 4th centuries A.D., which were taken out in the mid-5th century early Roman-Catholic Council of Chalcedon, (Constantinople/ Byzantium/ Istanbul,, Turkey), Oct., A D. 451.
The Latin (Roman-Catholic) words "Trinitas" & "Papas", translated into English as meaning "Trinity" & "Pope" [which do not describe the same thing as "the Godhead" (or "the council of the gods in heaven", "heavenly or celestial courts, above", "the divine-assembly", Psalms 82:1; & "the morning stars" or "shining ones" & "the sons of God", Job 38:7; & as also originally written of in Genesis 1:26, 3:5, & 3:22, in the 1st Book of Moses (in the Pentateuch or Torah); & quoted by the Lord Jesus, Himself, as being true, in John 10:34, etc. etc.): i.e., "the Godhead" according to the writings of the Lord's Apostle Paul in his Epistles or Letters to the 5 early branches in Asia Minor (ancient Greece, Turkey, Syria, & at Rome) organized, established, & led by the Apostle Paul (under the Prophethood of the Apostle Peter, who received direct revelation from Christ as the Head of & for the members of Christ's Church organization He founded by authority of God on the Prophets & Apostles, & the Priesthood of all believers, as it is written by the Word of God, in Amos 3:7 in the Old Testament, as well as the 4, Canonical Gospel-accounts, & the Epistles or Letters, specifically 2 Peter, record) of the original, New Testament/ 1st-3rd centuries, A.D., Church of Jesus Christ of former day Saints/ (believers & disciples or followers of Christ).
The true, pure, original, Biblical (Scriptural)/ Pre-Vulgate/ Pre-Roman doctrine of "through Godhead" denoted/ denotes 3 separate, distinct, individual personages or beings/ perfected, glorified, exalted Men of the same divine-family, but one in purpose, rather than or not 3 aspects of the same being (Pagan Trinity, "Trimurti" in Hinduism, added later in synchrotism by influence of Roman-Catholic missionaries to India, & believed by "New Agers" today ) were added into the New Testament Books of the Gospel-accounts, Acts, & the Epistles or Letters in Jerome's Latin Vulgate version of the Bible, influenced by Augustine's synchrontation of false, idol, Pagan (Babylonian & Neo-Platonism) philosophy or "traditions of Men"/ circular-reasoning & "doctrines of devils", as the prophecies in the Word of God warned would "come to pass in the last days", which began in A.D. 70, with the Imperial Roman destruction of Herod's temple, & the putting to arson fire of Jehovah's Holy City of Jerusalem, in the Southern (Jewish) Kingdom of Judah, or Roman-occupied Judaea, in the ancient land of Israel (or Philistine/ Canaanite influenced "Palestine").
The original ancient Hebrew & Greek words which God inspired His carefully called, chosen, & qualified, 4 Evangelists who wrote the 4 Canonical Gospel accounts, & Acts, as well as the scribes/ eyewitness, mission companions of the Saviour's Apostles, the former of whom wrote down the exact words in the ancient languages that the latter dictated to them directly from God.
And Sim(e)on bar-Jona (or "son of Jonah or John) was called "Kefa" in Biblical Hebrew, or "Cephas" in the ancient (Koine) Greek, or "Petrus" in Latin, all denoting or describing/ meaning, in English translation, "a small pebble stone".
The Apostle Peter was called, chosen, set apart or anointed by the laying on of hands for receiving the gift of the Holy Ghost through the priesthood blessing by the spoken word of those holding priesthood of God line of authority back to Jesus, & before Him, through the Old Testament Prophets & Patriarchs, to Moses & Aaron, & from Melchizedek, & Abraham, Noah & Enoch & Seth before them, all the way back to Adam & even into Eternity-Past, in the Premortal Existence with God in Heaven, "without beginning or end", as the Scriptures in the Word of God say, in Genesis 14:18-20, & Hebrews 7:1-17, & chapters 8-10, & Romans, chapters 3-7; plus, additionally read, study, & pray over-- "to know the fulness of the truth about", by "working out thy salvation through fear & trembling" & "come unto Christ, taking up thy cross, daily, bearing one another's burdens, & denying thyself of all ungodliness, putting off the carnal or natural man, & putting on Christ & the whole armor of God", "to gain a testimony", & "always be ready to give an answer [or a reply or a reason] for [the Spirit of Christ] the Blessed Hope that resides in you, looking forward to His 2nd Appearing"; & to "see things as they really are, by steps of faith, line upon line, precept upon precept, here a little, there a little"/ "ask of God with real intent" (for even more clarification & true wisdom & understanding)--c/o: lost chapters of Genesis, restored, translated, in 1830-1844-JST/ IV of KJ/AV-1611 Bible; TBoM (3rd Testament of Jesus Christ/ Great Jehovah, 1st son of Ahman/ Amen-Eloi-Eloheim--see Jesus' word term or name for "the Most-High God"/ His & our Heavenly Father,--"Who is greater than I AM", Jesus also previously said, in John 14:28, in Biblical-Hebrew/ Aramaic/ Syriac, "crying out, in agony, with a loud voice", according to Matthew 27:46, & Mark 15:34, in His next-to-last words on the cross, quoting from Psalms 22:1, of David, of His ancestor, through His earthly mother, Mary/ Maryam/ Marianme/ Miriam from Nazareth, of the Southern Jewish tribe of Benjamin, who bore Him).
However, the "rock" that Jesus taught that He built His Church on is "the bedrock cornerstone" of "the revelation of Himself, that Jesus is the Christ or Messiah, the sinless Son of God, Who atoned once for all who would come unto Him & trust in His merits through His innocent shed blood for salvation from their sins, & reconcilation with God, their merciful Creator of life & words, & the Eternal Father of their Spirits.
Jesus'' original Church organization was His officially sanctioned, blessed, , governing hierarchy of godly men, on earth, until He returns, which will be an international Theocracy, "rule by God", for 1000 years, from Jesus' HQ on His throne, Jacob's Pillar Stone (which had been kept in the British Isles since Jeremiah's time, for crowning monarchs from royal bloodlines, by Divine Right, command of the God of Israel) will be set as a step or sea under the throne of kings of the House of Israel (all 12 Tribes, Northern & Southern),restored, or reunited/ gathered together, at the New Jerusalem or Celestial City of God that will come down to earth with Him at His return, with the Ark of the Covenant or mercy seat, etc.
This is a very heretical and devious teaching. The rare scripture used is way out of context and most of the teaching are thoughts and opinions of the self. There is nothing to say the “sons of God” are the descendants of Seth, there is no scripture that says this. The sons of God in Hebrew is B’nei HaElohim. In the Old Testament B’nei HaElohim is only ever used to refer to the angelic.
Stick to the Bible and take it literally.
I will be a Father to you, and you shall be My sons and daughters, says the Lord Almighty.” 2 Corinthians 6:18.
Then explain Jude verses 6 & 7
@karenpelizzari4404 Jude is referencing the Book of Enoch but hardly affirming the idea of angels have sex with women as being correspondent to reality. A pastor who makes a pop culture reference to movies, like City Slickers, Forest Gump, or Dead Poets Society, is never intending the congregation to think he is passing on straight news about actual people and events.
can you show any reference at all Biblically to the existence of demons at the time of Gen 6 or before?
@sargeantfury Genesis 6 has nothing to do with demons. Watch the video. See www.equip.org/bible_answers/did-demons-have-sexual-relations-with-women-in-genesis-64/ and www.equip.org/articles/who-were-the-sons-of-god-in-genesis-6-/
Demons are the disembodied spirits of the hybrid offspring Genesis 6 calls 'The Nephilim.' Fallen Angels (including Satan) are the celestial beings that were hurled down in Revelation 12. But what happened in Gen.6 is the same thing Lucifer and Eve did in Gen.3 which produced Cain. Humbly pray and then study it to see the truth, and you'll see it to be true.
@@BibleAnswerMan❤ awesome interputertation
No they didn’t and they can’t. St Augustine, a great theologian in the 6th century struggled with this for a while but was corrected. Demons are pure spirit. Period.
The orthodox priests on Lord of Spirits did a lengthy episode on this subject. Their position is that, technically, the intercourse was between two people; however, one of the humans essentially acted as an intermediary for a fallen angel (i.e. demon) in the nephilim ritual.
We might consider the "Men of Renown" as 2/3 human, 1/3 demon. Father Steven and Father Andrew maintain that the "unclean spirits" mentioned in various places in the bible are deceased nephilim, and are neither human nor angelic.
Where can I watch that or listen to it ?
@@TheAponemesis Hank Hanegraaff, the Bible answer man gives an excellent response about this topic!
Those "Men of Renown" are the children brought forth from the debaucherous mating of Fallen Angels with human women.
*Genesis chapter 6 makes that abundantly clear.*
I am sorry i strongly disagree with the speaker's interpretation. Scripture in the Old Testament refers to Angels as Sons of God. The Book and Enoch and new Testament books show that it was watchers which were Angels that reproduced with humans. Hence the high breed of giants as children also after Exoduse in the land of Caanan. And Jude refrenced such interpretation and said the Angels left their normal estate of Angels and slept with humans and now they are chained in instant Judgment and darkness in prison. Hence the other demons implored Jesus not to judge them immediately during his time unlike the judgment that fell on the watchers (Angels), refrenced in Revelation (Euphrates). But the demons in Jesus time awaits the Final Judgment for their normal judgment.
Wow! This is written in the Bible? Maybe I've been wrong about the Bible. When does the movie come out?
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@@BibleAnswerMan Are you alright? Do you need medical help?
Angels are spiritually and not flesh and blood and sexless. Unless they somehow produced blood and spearm and human DNA get the picture. They will always be how they were created like you can not change who you are either. Any thing more is evil and bad consequences.
First time to be here. But I think its a good debate. I want to bring my opposing view understanding the underlying logic of the interface between spirits and physical beings. In the pre-Noahide periods, such interfaces were common. Citing few, the snake in the garden, the angels who shared a meal with Abraham, the angel who fought and disabled Jacob, the manna, the pillars of fire and cloud, the Melchizedek. I think taking your approach of refusing the interface and the sentiment that somehow, humanly speaking, humans interfaced with spirit beings as physical beings, would throw you into an endless debate to clarify the above events. I think it will throw us into a profit less discussion which to me can be avoided by simply accepting that not all things that happened can be logically explainable
Genesis 19:1 And there came two angels to Sodom at even; and Lot sat in the gate of Sodom: and Lot seeing them rose up to meet them; and he bowed himself with his face toward the ground; 2. .......
You are misenterpreting the Bible, Jesus in his ressurected body was not flesh and blood, you cannot compare the resurrection body of Jesus with angels.
I pointed out Genesis 19, as a Biblical example of angels appearing bodily.
The sons of God Genesis 6, you can compare Scripture with Scripture the Book of Job speaks of the sons 3-4 different references.
Which are you a non believer or false teacher?
When Jesus said that there will be many false teachers among was he talking about believers too? The Bible also speaks of the apostate believer, who are they those who follow the teaching of Jesus without Jesus, without knowing and accepting the true Jesus? I oftentimes hear people say that there is going to be a lot of "Christians" in hell, what do they mean I ask myself?
What are you teaching fellow; too many people like to teach the Bible by omittion, I'll read and hear what thus sayeth the Lord for myself, I wouldn't dare trust your understanding of God's word sir. You may say a few things right here or there in your exposition of God's word, but all it takes for me is to see you deliberately leading away from the truth once. Some people like to dismiss 1-2 red flags I want dismiss one. God is the judge.
The fact it says they were beautiful is evident they were men as angels demons wouldnt care what they looked like as they wanted to corrupt everyone, Gen says men 10 x's in 7 vs's, they were men
@PeterthePiper777 Not angels/demons. Lineage of Cain being the daughters of men. Lineage of Seth being the sons of God.
Your actual going to compare the Biblical account of the resurrection of Jesus in the Book of Acts, see of 500 believers and accention to be a possibility of the demonic. I don't know what kind of believer say that.
May I suggest, recent events allow for a broader possible interpretation.
M-RNA (Messenger RNA) has the ability (when introduced into a human being), to alter the expression the DNA.
Now a hybrid of the original is present, what does the look like as new generations are produced?
Yep! I stick with RC Sproul on this one. And yourself!!
I think this is not very convincing. You did not even deal with the text itself.
It's obvious if you know the scriptures and will let go of the hollywood sci fi fantasy.
@@paulwilder3800 Why not quote me the Scripture instead?
NO, NO AND NO
Just curious are you interpreting these verses strictly from the modern cultural perspective in the English language? Because you are stating that it was "demons" instead of "the sons of God" that came down and left their first estate to have sexual relations with women?
No. Hank rejects the very notion of Genesis 6 being a reference to demons and human women copulating and having offspring. See this article for clarification... www.equip.org/bible_answers/did-demons-have-sexual-relations-with-women-in-genesis-64/
You're right in that Angels and humans are two totally different creations that don't intimately co-exist. But really can't see this teaching being totally accurate. As you described it, you make it sound like Sin intimated from the bloodline of Cain , and the Righteous, from the like of Seth. That is NOT true because Adam and Eve sinned, thus passing the "Sin Gene" down the entire bloodline. Rather, the "Sons of God", are referring to the ones that God saves, and the "Daughters of Men", the ones that God doesn't save. Those terms are parables, and gender is not what's in view here. Seth, and his offspring were sinners and desperately needed a savior, and the same for Cain and his offspring.
@victorcroker2765 Our general point is that the line of Seth and the line of Cain are contrasted in Genesis 5. But Genesis 6:14 concerns the corruption of the lines of Seth and Cain, except for Noah and family. See www.equip.org/bible_answers/did-demons-have-sexual-relations-with-women-in-genesis-64/ and www.equip.org/articles/who-were-the-sons-of-god-in-genesis-6-/
Are angels demons? Genesis 6 says that the sons of God...... took them wives of the daughters of men of all which they chose. Are the sons of God demons? No.
Is clear spirit had no sex with the woman.
Many have tried to know exactly what happened btw the woman and snake but unable to. But in all this we know that knowledge is power. The snake went to the garden and inspired the woman. Alongside the woman decided
Demons are not fallen angles
Well put. Simple & to the point!
@@BibleAnswerMan Actually, they just ruined the video. Hank misidentifies the opposing view. No one believes Genesis 6 is about demons (disembodied spirits) the belief is that fallen angels which come in human form had sex with human women. Hank makes an error in contextualizing the topic.
Genesis 6 refers to the "Sons of God, not demons. Demonic entities are NOT the Sons of God. What's the argument here?!
@robhampo6775 Hank would say "the better interpretation is that “sons of God” simply refers to the godly descendants of Seth and “daughters of men,” to the ungodly descendants of Cain (St. Augustine). Their cohabitation caused humanity to fall into such utter depravity that God said, “‘I will wipe mankind, whom I have created, from the face of the earth-men and animals, and creatures that move along the ground, and birds of the air-for I am grieved that I have made them.’ But Noah found favor in the eyes of the Lord” (Genesis 6:7-8)." See www.equip.org/bible_answers/did-demons-have-sexual-relations-with-women-in-genesis-64/
@@BibleAnswerMan in the books of Job -1:6; 2:1; 38:7 and Daniel - 3:25. the "Sons of God" are referred to as the heavenly host - why the change in Genesis 6? And why would the term "nephilim" be used in the same passage?
First of all, Gen 6 never mentioned demons. It clearly refer to Angels (Sons of God), so stop Talking about demons. Now can angels embody into physical? Well the bible confirm YES. Angels are able to have physical bodies, examples of the ones in Sodom and Gomorrah, examples the ones that visited Abraham. So in this video explanation you contradict all the mentioned examples that clearly confirm embodiment....
They didn't have sex they are spirit hebrews 1:7 kjva cep
@theVampkingkindredk That is one of the problems with the angels procreated view that Hank points out. 🙏
@@BibleAnswerMan spirit can't co mingle ,with flesh
Some of the angels that were entering the daughters of men separate from their own nutty cupids, Our Heavenly Father called fallen angels false gods in his commandments including the ones alienated in high places 👽🍎🛸 and from the offspring of nutty cupids to mutants.
The Book of Enoch is simply solid TRUTH! As Christians, we have NEVER had to wonder who the "sons of God" in Genesis 6 were. It is absolutely silly to have any questions on this matter. The Bible, itself, tells us exactly who these "sons of God" were. It tells us in Job 1:6. It tells us in Job 2:1. AND it tells us again in Job 38: 4-7. When Augustine came up with his total baloney about the sons of Seth marrying the daughters of Cain, he was only proving that either A) He did not believe in the biblical writings in the book of Job or B) He was not familiar with the book of Job to any great extent........... which is sad! It is a VERY important book in the Bible. The book of Job even makes it clear that creation was NOT a single, one time, event, BUT rather happened at least twice.........and perhaps, multiple times. In Job 38:4-7, the Bible makes it clear that the heavenly angels are part of a much earlier creation than the earth and humankind. It says that the heavenly angels WATCHED GOD CREATE THE EARTH AND SANG PRAISES TO HIM, AS HE DID SO. They already existed long before the earth was created.
Jacob wrestled an angel ...and that hurt... think it was more than a ghost then. Others interpret it as wrestling with God... but not everyone does
Day 1 "Let there be Light." The Light of Heaven, Angels of Light, Astronomy Light, and Our Spirit Bodies of Light.
I believe there is a distinction between demons and fallen angels. Angels can appear in human form, interact with humans, eat food etc. Demons on the other hand as you stated are spirit who can inhabit a physical form be it man or beast. Gen. 3 :15 states that God put enmity between the woman’s seed (Christ Jesus) and the serpent (the devil, Satan, dragon etc.) and his seed the antichrist. You may have to rethink your position as there are too many scriptures references that appear to not support your thoughts.
@rickchaffey9521 ~ Nothing referenced in your responds demands demons have a natural capacity to physically manifest. Where do the Scriptures teach that???
respectfully disagree. i follow scholars like Dr. Michael Heiser on this topic :D
So sons of God are demons?
@wickhunter7733 No watch the video.
@@BibleAnswerMan How many sons did Yahweh have? He seems to like sex and foreskins.
Demons ? its not in the KJV of the HOLY BIBLE ! its DEVILS !
@EDD519 Is not that a distinction without a difference?
To say a demon arose guised at Christ is the unforgivable sin
Paul said being wise they became fools. Your message is irrelevant and confusing Focus on the gospels of Christ
@user-zq1sh3ec9n - To the contrary, fixation on angels copulating with women to produce hybrid so-called Nephilim really distract from the essential message of the Scriptures, which concerns the incarnation of the Son of God to redeem fallen humanity.
It was most certainly with two humans, but the point that is missed is the corruption of the giant clans throughout the OT, and traditions that are held within the Orthodox Church (although secondary), especially the book of Enoch. I use to hold this Sethite view, I would not say it is wrong but I would say it is missing some very important information. There is a very large body of evidence that suggests that Angels are the sons of God in Gen 6 and Deut 32:8, and were responsible for leading humans in corruption. It think the Angelic view is consistent with scripture and is apparent throughout the whole bible, but on the other hand, the view gets taken far left as does the Seth view and misses important details. However, we are in the last age and Christ is our victory over the powers of heaven and earth, of sin, death and the devil.
Listen to the Giants episode of ‘The Lord of Spirits’ podcast from Ancient Faith Radio. Fr. Steven DeYoung who has a doctorate in Semitic languages explains it was 2 people (a temple prostitute) and an elaborate ritual that brought their “god” into the equation. Like Gilgamesh being 1/3 ‘god’… the nephilem were fully demonized humans.
Hank was a true friend of Christ to the end.
Was? He's 72 He's not passed away yet- find out the truth before you speak-
@@oreally8605
I appreciate that you must be a very angry individual. Clearly; was should have been “is”. In that case, I should have corrected that. However, you’ve prompted me to keep it as is. You are a reminder of what I do not wish to sound like.
Good luck with life.
One of the toughest verses definitely, I've heard several interpretations and am still looking for the answer...
One thing I definitely disagree on is that demons can't have sex with humans (and are asexual) as in my pre-salvation life I've had sex with a demon (disguised as ascended being) almost every night for 3 months. True, no children were born and thanks God :D ... However succubus/incubus exist. When I got saved I got delivered by Jezabel spirit (def female) which was also lustful.
The same happened to me in my first relationship with a woman who was influenced by the Jezebel/Delilah spirit. She preyed on my virginity using a false church like I was Samson, and led me to become interested in sexually immoral things that I'm still fighting today (and this was 10 years ago). When I felt our connection breaking down, I tried to force intimacy...which turned her off to me, and onto others. Then a succubus demon presented itself in my dreams as my favorite preference of women i.e. my type...once I finally had intercourse with it in one of the dreams, I found myself to had actually climaxed in reality. Having been empowered, it then presented itself as a stalking energy in the apartment...going from kitchen _(where I was adjacent to, on the couch)_ to hallway _(which gave eyeshot into each bedroom)_ watching us sleep, and keeping me from sleeping comfortably through the night. I literally could not sleep unless it was at dawn or sunrise.
On a particular morning when she'd decided to glamour herself for the guy she was cheating on me with at her job, the succubus demon woke me to the exact same routine touch that my girlfriend used to wake me to. The worst part is that the demon's touch felt better than hers because it was *FAR* more sensual, oddly energy draining *YET* charged with lust altogether. When I snapped open my eyes happily thinking she'd finally decided to be intimate with me instead of considering other prospects...she was in a completely different room, styling her hair. There was no way she could have gotten that distance in that timeframe. Finally one day her son came to us claiming he'd seen his mom (my girlfriend) in his room watching him sleep...when we both denied this, he reiterated he knows it was her because he spoke to her and she told him to go back to sleep...and he listened. That was it! I spent 8hrs straight the next day blessing each "portal" _(doors and windows)_ of the townhome, repenting of my newfound lustful desires, and reading scripture while being sure to end in prayer before going to the next room.
We had other experiences than just that, and out of wanting to ensure neither of them fed the demon anything more than I already had...I pretended to know of nothing she would introduce to me in a panic, and just downplay it until she felt secure. I never told her about my having exorcised her home. To this day, I still cannot understand how the succubus knew exactly what to present itself as in my dreams nor how exactly to touch me...but it did. Praise God for allowing that manifestation of evil, because I wholly believe I'll never be able to comfortably live in that type of sexual sin ever again!
Ever read Genesis 18 and 19? God the Son, pre-incarnate, along with 2 angels come to warn Abraham of the impending judgment on Sodom/Gommorha and this shows angels can assume bodies like men!
Pls read the bible again this video is not scriptural.
my guess is they did with any body they could find
@jimpassi349 Why suppose the sons of God in Genesis 6 are demons?
First off Fallen Angels are Principalities not some low-level demons.
No!!!!!
I can't believe your saying that . Gees we done bible answer man , i so can't believe you cant read what the bible really says . perhaps it be better if ya didn't have a forum
The Bibel mention very litte about this rather complicated topic, it shouldn't be a deal breaker if we disagree on such matters. Lets focus on unity because that's what we need in this world of chaos
@@dist221 unity is what the world wants .agreed we live in strange times with many trials but can we not read the bible correctly. I mean GOD didn't write a book only for the scholars but for us didn't he ?
@@briandykeman4056 Unity among saints is what God wants. He sure did make The Bible for all us.
Hank's Sethite view is correct and is the most consistent with natural and Biblical logic...
I found the following in the Ante-Nicene Fathers by Philip Schaff, Volume 6, pg. 310: _"When men multiplied on the earth, the angels of heaven came together with the daughters of men. In some copies I found “the sons of God.” What is meant by the Spirit, in my opinion, is that _*_the descendants of Seth are called the sons of God on account of the righteous men and patriarchs who have sprung from him, even down to the Saviour Himself; but that the descendants of Cain are named the seed of men, as having nothing divine in them, on account of the wickedness of their race and the inequality of their nature, being a mixed people, and having stirred the indignation of God."_*
Then where does RH negative blood come from? I like to think i have angel blood not alien blood! 😊
I agree with demons not being able to procreate. How did Nephilim (giants) come into being? The Watchers, whatever they were, is as good an explanation as any, from the Book of Enoch. I’m not saying it’s inspired, but it was read by the Essenes.
You are having a hard time with this Bible verse because you start with a false premise or understanding.
1)The Bible does not say demons had sexual relations with women, but angels. Fallen angels and demons are not the same thing. 2)Jesus brought up the subject of ghosts to prove he was not one and asked if they had food to eat to prove he had a physical body and was not a spirit. Angels can transform to look like humans and eat as proven through scripture in many occasions, for example Judges 13:15. 3) if there was nothing extra ordinary about these “sons of god” but merely descendants of Seth as some claim, why the abnormal offspring?(giants). Humans having relationships with humans do not produce nephilim giants. 4) who are the angels in the abyss (Jude 6;2 Peter2:4)what did they do that was so bad that they were locked up immediately unlike the other fallen angels that roam around with Satan (Job1:6, 2:1) and present themselves before God. Who by the way are called “sons of God”(these are obviously not human but angels). Well the answer is there in Jude; they left their “abode”(Heavenly positions) and did the unnatural “sexual immorality” like Sodom and Gomorrah doing the unnatural (Jude7)
@@jesseperez1753 You talking to me or Hank? I said demons could not procreate. I am not having a hard time with it. The Watchers were fallen angels. I don’t agree with Hank that it was Sethites and Cainites, though. I believe it could have been Neanderthals or Denisovans mating with Homo Sapiens.
@@RAJohns Sorry it was for Hank but I just copied and pasted my previous reply to highlight these points. I should have edited or clarified thanks
@@jesseperez1753 correct. Many, many Christians have no idea that demons and fallen angels are not the same thing.
It's the humans or sons of God who married the daughters of the descendants of unbeliever Cain, who were engaged in sex by being possesed Or inspired by the demons or fallen angels.
Short answer....
NO!
Demons / Fallen Angels/ Spirit Beings CANNOT procreate
Based on what?
@@mbfrommb3699 A proper exegesis of Biblical Truth aka the weight of Scriptural evidence.
@@LocoMenteClaraOne Really? Are you sure? To me, this is a proper way to exegesis a topic.
Sadly, Hank gets the topic wrong, there is no clarification that the belief is about fallen angels, not demons. Yes Demons are disembodied spirits so in that way the video is correct but that's not the argument. The actual belief is that fallen angels, divine beings came down and had sex with human women and produced abominations- divine/human hybrids. This aspect is not addressed so either the video is blatantly misleading by confusing the topic or it's not informed enough to understand the topic to talk about it. Only the creator knows which.
Second, let's examine this topic from a biblical standpoint. In Luke 17 Jesus says
26 And as it was in the days of Noah, so it will be also in the days of the Son of Man: 27 They ate, they drank, they married wives, they were given in marriage, until the day that Noah entered the ark, and the flood came and destroyed them all. 28 Likewise as it was also in the days of Lot: They ate, they drank, they bought, they sold, they planted, they built; 29 but on the day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven and destroyed them all. 30 Even so will it be in the day when the Son of Man is revealed.
So Jesus links Genesis 6 and 18, He also links these 2 with His 2nd Coming. This tells us that these events are unlike any in biblical history. That there is something that sets them all apart. So it's not a group of men having sex with women and it's not about homosexuality because we see these things in Babylon, Egypt, Canaan, and the Roman Empire.
Then we see Peter in 2 Peter also connects these 2 events but Peter says that the angels somehow sinned that it caused them to be chained in prison for it. Now we know these weren't all the angels because of Scripture. So what set this group apart?
2 Peter 2: 4 For if God did not spare the angels who sinned, but cast them down to Tartarus (deepest part of Hades) and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved for judgment; 5 and did not spare the ancient world, but saved Noah, one of eight people, a preacher of righteousness, bringing in the flood on the world of the ungodly; 6 and turning the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah into ashes, condemned them to destruction, making them an example to those who afterward would live ungodly; 7 and delivered righteous Lot, who was oppressed by the filthy conduct of the wicked 8 (for that righteous man, dwelling among them, tormented his righteous soul from day to day by seeing and hearing their lawless deeds)
We see in Genesis 18 that the LORD appeared as a man, but as soon as Abraham saw this "man" he bowed and offered the LORD rest, food and water.
Gen 18:1 Then the Lord appeared to him by the terebinth trees of Mamre, as he was sitting in the tent door in the heat of the day. 2 So he lifted his eyes and looked, and behold, three men were standing by him; and when he saw them, he ran from the tent door to meet them, and bowed himself to the ground, 3 and said, “My Lord, if I have now found favor in Your sight, do not pass on by Your servant. 4 Please let a little water be brought, and wash your feet, and rest yourselves under the tree. 5 And I will bring a morsel of bread, that you may refresh your hearts. After that you may pass by, inasmuch as you have come to your servant.”
Notice Lot has the same reaction yet no social media existed for Abraham to let Lot know the angels were coming.
Genesis 19:1 Now the two angels came to Sodom in the evening, and Lot was sitting in the gate of Sodom. When Lot saw them, he rose to meet them, and he bowed himself with his face toward the ground. 2 And he said, “Here now, my lords, please turn in to your servant’s house and spend the night, and wash your feet; then you may rise early and go on your way.” And they said, “No, but we will spend the night in the open square.” 3 But he insisted strongly; so they turned in to him and entered his house. Then he made them a feast, and baked unleavened bread, and they ate. This tells us that in the age of Abraham and Lot the LORD appearing in human form or angels appearing in human form was not uncommon. There was a process of hospitality, of welcome that both Abraham and Lot followed. They were also, not shocked or in fear as we see later in Scripture. They saw these beings and bowed and welcomed them in.
To me, this speaks of a time we have no clue about. Now let's go further back
Job 1: 6 Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the Lord, and Satan also came among them. 7 And the Lord said to Satan, “From where do you come?” So Satan answered the Lord and said, “From going to and fro on the earth, and from walking back and forth on it.”
Revelation 12 tells us who Satan is: 9 So the great dragon was cast out, that serpent of old, called the Devil and Satan, who deceives the whole world; he was cast to the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.
Genesis 6 Now it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born to them, 2 that the sons of God saw the daughters of men, that they were beautiful; and they took wives for themselves of all whom they chose. 3 And the Lord said, “My Spirit shall not strive with man forever, for he is indeed flesh; yet his days shall be one hundred and twenty years.” 4 There were [b]giants on the earth in those days, and also afterward, when the sons of God came in to the daughters of men and they bore children to them. Those were the mighty men who were of old, men of renown.
Notice the term "sons of GOD".
In Scripture, the "sons of GOD" refers to beings directly created by the LORD.
Adam: Luke 3:37 the son of Methuselah, the son of Enoch, the son of Jared, the son of Mahalalel, the son of Cainan, 38 the son of Enosh, the son of Seth, the son of Adam, the son of God.
Jesus obviously was called The Son of GOD.
Christians: Galatians 3:26 For you are all sons of God through faith in Christ Jesus.
Why? 2 Cor 5:17 Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation; old things have passed away; behold, all things have become new.
Angelic beings: Job 1:6 Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the Lord, and Satan also came among them. 7 And the Lord said to Satan, “From where do you come?”
So Satan answered the Lord and said, “From going to and fro on the earth, and from walking back and forth on it.”
Job 38:To what were its foundations fastened? Or who laid its cornerstone, 7 When the morning stars sang together, And all the sons of God shouted for joy?
(Continued in Part 2)
@@LocoMenteClaraOne Part 2/2 Lastly, we have the book of Jude which 1. talks about this and 2 quotes a different book for reference.
1. Jude 1:6 And the angels who did not keep their proper domain, but left their own abode, He has reserved in everlasting chains under darkness for the judgment of the great day; 7 as Sodom and Gomorrah, and the cities around them in a similar manner to these, having given themselves over to sexual immorality and gone after strange flesh, are set forth as an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.
So some angels left their "abode" which is Heaven. This caused the LORD to punish these angels "reserved in everlasting chains under darkness for the judgment of the great day" again referencing Sodom and Gomorrah. These angels had given themselves over to sexual immorality. The context is not about the people of Sodom but the angles and what happened in Sodom. The angels were sexually immoral. they went after "strange flesh" whatever that was. and they became an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire. This is about the angels.
Then Jude quotes another book.
2. 14 Now Enoch, the seventh from Adam, prophesied about these men also, saying, “Behold, the Lord comes with ten thousands of His saints, 15 to execute judgment on all, to convict all who are ungodly among them of all their ungodly deeds which they have committed in an ungodly way, and of all the harsh things which ungodly sinners have spoken against Him.”
Now I am not saying the book of Enoch is biblical canon but Jude quotes it, not to make it canon but to show us what happened. Just like I may point to a commentary on the Bible for a passage, it doesn't make the commentary biblical canon but I'm using it to show what I believe is the meaning of that passage.
Book of Enoch: Chapter 1:9 "And behold! He cometh with ten thousands of His holy ones To execute judgment upon all, And to destroy all the ungodly: And to convict all flesh Of all the works of their ungodliness which they have ungodly committed, And of all the hard things which ungodly sinners have spoken against Him.” Excerpt From Researchers Library of Ancient Texts Vol 1. Page 5.
We also see the Book of Enoch quote Genesis 6.
Enoch chapter 6:1 “And it came to pass when the children of men had multiplied that in those days were born unto them beautiful and comely daughters. 2 And the angels, the children of the heaven, saw and lusted after them, and said to one another: “Come, let us choose us wives from among the children of men and beget us children.’ Excerpt From Researchers Library of Ancient Texts Vol 1. Page 9. Enoch chapter 7: “1And all the others together with them took unto themselves wives, and each chose for himself one, and they began to go in unto them and to defile themselves with them, and they taught them charms and enchantments, and the cutting of roots, and made them acquainted with plants. 2 And they became pregnant, and they bare great giants, whose height was three thousand ells: 3 Who consumed all the acquisitions of men. And when men could no longer sustain them, 4the giants turned against them and devoured mankind. 5 And they began to sin against birds, and beasts, and reptiles, and fish, and to devour one another’s flesh, and drink the blood.” ...Enoch chapter 9: “8 And they have gone to the daughters of men upon the earth, and have slept with the women, and have defiled themselves, and revealed to them all kinds of sins. 9 And the women have borne giants, and the whole earth has thereby been filled with blood and unrighteousness.”
Enoch chapter 10: “1Then said the Most High, the Holy and Great One spake, and sent Uriel to the son of Lamech, and said to him: 2‘ and tell him in my name “Hide thyself!” and reveal to him the end that is approaching: that the whole earth will be destroyed, and a deluge is about to come upon the whole earth, and will destroy all that is on it. 3 And now instruct him that he may escape and his seed may be preserved for all the generations of the world.” Excerpt From Researchers Library of Ancient Texts Vol 1.
Again, this doesn't make the book of Enoch biblical canon but Jude and others reference it, to inform us of the story so we can understand the biblical context. Now we can choose to not agree with this understanding but to outright reject it and not take an honest look at it biblically to me is disingenuous and misleading.
I hope it helps though, take care.
As a further note we have to ask ourselves which came first the biblical account or the pagan account?
Some have speculated that these hybrid -human/divine offspring were the originals and then came the pagan "gods" myths based on the biblical account.
What if these fallen angels had sex with human women and created these hybrids and these hybrids ruled mankind as "gods" or beings humans worshipped?
Deuteronomy:32:15...“But Jeshurun grew fat and kicked; You grew fat, you grew thick, You are obese! Then he forsook God who made him, And scornfully esteemed the Rock of his salvation. 16 They provoked Him to jealousy with foreign gods; With abominations they provoked Him to anger. 17 They sacrificed to demons, not to God, To gods they did not know, To new gods, new arrivals That your fathers did not fear. 18 Of the Rock who begot you, you are unmindful, And have forgotten the God who fathered you.
Today, we erect statues as a reminder of actual people who lived in the past. Sports figures, leaders, heroes, etc. What if idol worship, is where people worshipped statues made of rock and stone were representations of actual beings? And when the flood came and destroyed their mortal bodies these hybrids became disembodied spirits, demons that roamed the earth? What if these idols inhabited these disembodied spirits? Just some thoughts that might help with the context of Scripture. Hope this helps.
@@mbfrommb3699 I'm patiently waiting for your cut and paste (Part 2) before I refute your erroneous and poorly researched pretexts on the matter at hand. Gracias, amigo
AMEN
oh my gosh, you're in denial... that is why are doing it in modern times, wake up...
@ra.fa.el-369 Denial of what?
But I don't understand what was the necessity to create sexual attraction itself which is vanity and brought all kinds of suffering and sorrow...!!! It's of no use discussing all these things which is already done by many people earlier.
Angels can materialize as men and walked upon the Earth as we see through the scriptures. Angels came on Earth talking to Abraham eat the meal prepared for them . The same way fallen angels can materialize too
@lazardrugea2177 Angels can do that according to God's will. Demons severed from a relationship with God are without such a resource.
Angels in Heb 13 says that they can take the form of humans If so, fallen angels in Gen 6 may have taken the form of human body and cohaboted with the daughters of men
If those "sons of God" does not refer to fallen angels the writer of Genesis should have said "The sons of men took upon themselves daughters of men" BUT IT DID NOT SAY THAT WAY...Which only shows that the sons of God refers to fallen angels that took the form of human body
The movie The Entity reveals how a demon sexually assaulted a married woman
Human experience tells us that demons and or fallen angels have sexual desires
@TonyParagas-eh6wc God can enable angels to visibly manifest. But that is not what is happening in Genesis 6. See www.equip.org/bible_answers/did-demons-have-sexual-relations-with-women-in-genesis-64/ and www.equip.org/articles/who-were-the-sons-of-god-in-genesis-6-/
It was not God enabling angels to manifest. Again God created angels with free will to choose. Being on a higher plane than humans , angels are far exceeding in their ability to travel from their spiritual world into the physical world at ease. They were created to serve God but those who rebelled against God will now depart from the heavenly realm to serve themselves and to Satan's agenda.
sure did
Beats me.
lies...
Yes it is where democrats come from !
Fallen Angels are *not* demons.
So who were the nephilims? The son of God had relations with the women on earth?
That is explained in the video. See also www.equip.org/bible_answers/did-demons-have-sexual-relations-with-women-in-genesis-64/ and www.equip.org/articles/who-were-the-sons-of-god-in-genesis-6-/
Go read the book of enoch you will understand which kind these nephilims were
"Lies" !!! False teacher. He may seduce you with smooth words but his words are lies!!!!
We submit that you are speaking ignorance here. The Bible says that spirits had sex with humans and we know that the Bible was right because demons are still sleeping with humans today and may even be having sex with the wife of the presenter of this handle. This problem is one of the very difficult issues that can be resolved spiritually. We advise people who are not versed in spirituality to avoid dabbling into it . We urge people to simply ignore this handle's post on sexual immorality between humans and demons,
thanks,very good,and correct.
To my understanding, "sons of God" in the Old Testament refers to the angels, and "sons of God" in the New Testament refers to the Believers of Christ, the redeemed ones.
They were cast out of heaven and came down to earth and impregnated the women. These children were called Giants in the land.Nepreum.
Thing is, demons are never said to have been fallen angels... that's just mans ideas. Demons never had sex with women, the fallen angels did. Demons are the spiritual offspring of them that were left after the flood... and yes they were also considered men, men of old, men of renown. Angles were cast out of heaven into this world, and lost their first estate, which implies that state was replaced with another state... from spiritual to "physical only." The real question is who are the sons of God?... cause they obviously did mate with earthly women. What are the two seeds that God said he'd put enmity between? This topic goes way beyond just Genesis 6, and actually supports seeds of Satan in this world. There are really only two bloodlines, one of Seth and one of Cain if you follow the lineage that far back. Jesus called the pharisees children of the devil. Angels that were sent into Sodom and Gomorrah were desired by men to lay with, this advocates that the spiritual world can indeed appear in human form and have physical contact and are subject to our physical laws while in the physical state. This is just a FEW out of many hints the Bible shows us that our physical world has and does mingle with the supernatural, and to the point of not being able to discern it... as we have even entertained angles unaware. The fallen angels took on another form once they fell to this planet, they are no longer just spirit beings, and not all of them roam this planet, some were locked up into the abyss. This is my belief after spending years on this topic, and the reason for it, was so Satan could prevent the birth of Jesus by corruption man's bloodline. I know it's not mainstream teaching, and I only scratch the surface here, as there are many other clues the bible gives us on this issue that most just simply ignore out of insecurity.
ONLY THE BORN AGAIN CHRISTIANS UNDERSTAND AND OBEY THE WORDS OF JESUS, THEY ARE THE ONLY ONES THAT UNDERSTAND THE BIBLE. AND THEY ARE CALL THE SONS OF GOD.ISAIAH 43: 6 AND 7 ALSO 44:5 GEN.6:1 T0 7. GOD MAKES MEN RESPONSIBLE, HE IS NOT TALKING ABOUT DEMONS OR ANGELS. THE SONS OF SET WERE THE SONS OF GOD, SO SAYS GENESIS.
Demons (Shaddaim, "fallen ones" in Biblical-Hebrew) were actually in the 1/3rd of the heavenly hosts/ angelic armies of God who corrupted themselves by commiting the original sin of Pride (the mystery of iniquity) which was first found in the Archangel Iriel, 2nd created spirit-son of ELOI-ELOHEIM/ "the Most-High God of gods") & followed Diabolos (the devil) (the former-Archangel Iriel/ Lucifer/ Satan, the slanderer or accuser of the brethren/ Belial/ Azazel/ Ba'al-zebul, prince of devils/ Apollyon/ Abaddon, angel with keys to bottomless pit or the abyss of Tophet or Tartarus, with its gates & underground tunnels & its chambers, deep ocean & lake of fire in core or center of this earth) fell, & were cast out from God the Father's presence/ His throne/ Heavenly Ark of the Covenant & the Testimony/ Books of God's Law in the original Temple in Heaven on another world, & the 1/3 became fallen angels or disembodied, deceitful, unclean spirits of the damned, halted in their spiritual progression to go no further into mortality, never to gain a body, by their choice to follow Satan, the prince of darkness, the chief- adversary or arch-enemy of the God of Israel, & the devourer of Men's souls, who with the 1/3 who fell, "kept not their 1st estate".
See: (KJV Bible) Books of Genesis Isaiah, Ezekiel, Job, N.T. Gospel-accounts--
words of Jesus to His Apostles, in His Vision of Premortality, through the Veil on His mind parted by revelation through the Holy Ghost from His & our Eternal Father in the heavens--;
Ephesians, 1-2 Thessalonians, 1-2 Peter, Jude, & The Apocalypse or Revelation of Jess Christ unto John the Beloved.
Pride/ arrogance/ haughtiness = called "vainglory", or by extension, "feigned-love", in Isaiah & Ezekiel.
See also: "Lilith", mother of demons, "the Lilitu", in the Jewish Talmud (, Jerusalem or Babylonian versions) Rabbinical commentaries, filing in more details, by ancient traditions of the Patriarchs or Jewish Fathers).
And also see ancient Pagan/ Gentile/ Goyim Sumerian/ Akkadian" Old Babylonian (circa 2000 B.C., Abram's' upbringing, at Erech or Ur [ShuppURuk, "Babel"/ Babylon, ruins of foundation or base on the Tower & Kjng Nimrud's 1st city, rediscovered by Napoleon Bonaoart's archaeologists & Bible-scholars circa 300+ years ago in the desert outside present-day Baghdad, Iraq ]
These are the most ancient, reliable, earliest documented, eyewitness accounts of these things.
Sons of "Seth", according to Jewish writings of Moses.
Sons of "Set", according to mythological writings (missing some parts, "plain & precious things" removed or mistranslated,, & others added by evil designs of wicked men, & greatly exaggerated, such as the Sumerian- Babylonians & Hindus of India [Biblical Kush, as per the Table of (the original 70 Gentile) Nations (right after the 1st dispersion at the Tower of Babel, as it was written & recorded accurately in Genesis 10-11, the world's 1st History book ] & by the ancient Pagan Egyptians.
Demons can't but watcher angels and archangels can,
Fallen Angels not demon.
Eve was the mother of all living, God, Eve and Satan had a chat about original sin, in Gen 3. Jesus told the rulers of the temple; they were from your father the devil. Cain and Abel were never mentioned in the lineage from Adam. Adam rejoiced when his first son was born. Satan was the milkman.
@davidharrigan9884 Why is Satan the “milkman”? See www.equip.org/article/eve-sex-satan-serpent-seed-view-genesis-315/
It's an analogy, if a son is born of a different color, first check the color of your milkman@@BibleAnswerMan
There are no demons.
finally
@skyriver4787 Thanks!
Part 1/2 Sorry, I have to disagree. Now sure this isn't a salvation issue but it goes to a deeper understanding of Scripture and biblical history and understanding. Do with it what you will but there is a strong biblical case.
Sadly, there is no clarification that the belief is about fallen angels, not demons. Yes Demons are disembodied spirits so in that way the video is correct but that's not the argument. The actual belief is that fallen angels, divine beings came down and had sex with human women and produced abominations- divine/human hybrids. This aspect is not addressed so either the video is blatantly misleading by confusing the topic or it's not informed enough to understand the topic to talk about it. Only the creator knows which.
Second, let's examine this topic from a biblical standpoint. In Luke 17 Jesus says
26 And as it was in the days of Noah, so it will be also in the days of the Son of Man: 27 They ate, they drank, they married wives, they were given in marriage, until the day that Noah entered the ark, and the flood came and destroyed them all. 28 Likewise as it was also in the days of Lot: They ate, they drank, they bought, they sold, they planted, they built; 29 but on the day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven and destroyed them all. 30 Even so will it be in the day when the Son of Man is revealed.
So Jesus links Genesis 6 and 18, He also links these 2 with His 2nd Coming. This tells us that these events are unlike any in biblical history. That there is something that sets them all apart. So it's not a group of men having sex with women and it's not about homosexuality because we see these things in Babylon, Egypt, Canaan, and the Roman Empire.
Then we see Peter in 2 Peter also connects these 2 events but Peter says that the angels somehow sinned that it caused them to be chained in prison for it. Now we know these weren't all the angels because of Scripture. So what set this group apart?
2 Peter 2: 4 For if God did not spare the angels who sinned, but cast them down to Tartarus (deepest part of Hades) and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved for judgment; 5 and did not spare the ancient world, but saved Noah, one of eight people, a preacher of righteousness, bringing in the flood on the world of the ungodly; 6 and turning the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah into ashes, condemned them to destruction, making them an example to those who afterward would live ungodly; 7 and delivered righteous Lot, who was oppressed by the filthy conduct of the wicked 8 (for that righteous man, dwelling among them, tormented his righteous soul from day to day by seeing and hearing their lawless deeds)
We see in Genesis 18 that the LORD appeared as a man, but as soon as Abraham saw this "man" he bowed and offered the LORD rest, food and water.
Gen 18:1 Then the Lord appeared to him by the terebinth trees of Mamre, as he was sitting in the tent door in the heat of the day. 2 So he lifted his eyes and looked, and behold, three men were standing by him; and when he saw them, he ran from the tent door to meet them, and bowed himself to the ground, 3 and said, “My Lord, if I have now found favor in Your sight, do not pass on by Your servant. 4 Please let a little water be brought, and wash your feet, and rest yourselves under the tree. 5 And I will bring a morsel of bread, that you may refresh your hearts. After that you may pass by, inasmuch as you have come to your servant.”
Notice Lot has the same reaction yet no social media existed for Abraham to let Lot know the angels were coming.
Genesis 19:1 Now the two angels came to Sodom in the evening, and Lot was sitting in the gate of Sodom. When Lot saw them, he rose to meet them, and he bowed himself with his face toward the ground. 2 And he said, “Here now, my lords, please turn in to your servant’s house and spend the night, and wash your feet; then you may rise early and go on your way.” And they said, “No, but we will spend the night in the open square.” 3 But he insisted strongly; so they turned in to him and entered his house. Then he made them a feast, and baked unleavened bread, and they ate. This tells us that in the age of Abraham and Lot the LORD appearing in human form or angels appearing in human form was not uncommon. There was a process of hospitality, of welcome that both Abraham and Lot followed. They were also, not shocked or in fear as we see later in Scripture. They saw these beings and bowed and welcomed them in.
To me, this speaks of a time we have no clue about. Now let's go further back
Job 1: 6 Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the Lord, and Satan also came among them. 7 And the Lord said to Satan, “From where do you come?” So Satan answered the Lord and said, “From going to and fro on the earth, and from walking back and forth on it.”
Revelation 12 tells us who Satan is: 9 So the great dragon was cast out, that serpent of old, called the Devil and Satan, who deceives the whole world; he was cast to the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.
Genesis 6 Now it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born to them, 2 that the sons of God saw the daughters of men, that they were beautiful; and they took wives for themselves of all whom they chose. 3 And the Lord said, “My Spirit shall not strive with man forever, for he is indeed flesh; yet his days shall be one hundred and twenty years.” 4 There were [b]giants on the earth in those days, and also afterward, when the sons of God came in to the daughters of men and they bore children to them. Those were the mighty men who were of old, men of renown.
Notice the term "sons of GOD".
In Scripture, the "sons of GOD" refers to beings directly created by the LORD.
Adam: Luke 3:37 the son of Methuselah, the son of Enoch, the son of Jared, the son of Mahalalel, the son of Cainan, 38 the son of Enosh, the son of Seth, the son of Adam, the son of God.
Jesus obviously was called The Son of GOD.
Christians: Galatians 3:26 For you are all sons of God through faith in Christ Jesus.
Why? 2 Cor 5:17 Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation; old things have passed away; behold, all things have become new.
Angelic beings: Job 1:6 Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the Lord, and Satan also came among them. 7 And the Lord said to Satan, “From where do you come?”
So Satan answered the Lord and said, “From going to and fro on the earth, and from walking back and forth on it.”
Job 38:To what were its foundations fastened? Or who laid its cornerstone, 7 When the morning stars sang together, And all the sons of God shouted for joy?
(Continued in Part 2)
Part 2/2 Lastly, we have the book of Jude which 1. talks about this and 2 quotes a different book for reference.
1. Jude 1:6 And the angels who did not keep their proper domain, but left their own abode, He has reserved in everlasting chains under darkness for the judgment of the great day; 7 as Sodom and Gomorrah, and the cities around them in a similar manner to these, having given themselves over to sexual immorality and gone after strange flesh, are set forth as an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.
So some angels left their "abode" which is Heaven. This caused the LORD to punish these angels "reserved in everlasting chains under darkness for the judgment of the great day" again referencing Sodom and Gomorrah. These angels had given themselves over to sexual immorality. The context is not about the people of Sodom but the angles and what happened in Sodom. The angels were sexually immoral. they went after "strange flesh" whatever that was. and they became an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire. This is about the angels.
Then Jude quotes another book.
2. 14 Now Enoch, the seventh from Adam, prophesied about these men also, saying, “Behold, the Lord comes with ten thousands of His saints, 15 to execute judgment on all, to convict all who are ungodly among them of all their ungodly deeds which they have committed in an ungodly way, and of all the harsh things which ungodly sinners have spoken against Him.”
Now I am not saying the book of Enoch is biblical canon but Jude quotes it, not to make it canon but to show us what happened. Just like I may point to a commentary on the Bible for a passage, it doesn't make the commentary biblical canon but I'm using it to show what I believe is the meaning of that passage.
Book of Enoch: Chapter 1:9 "And behold! He cometh with ten thousands of His holy ones To execute judgment upon all, And to destroy all the ungodly: And to convict all flesh Of all the works of their ungodliness which they have ungodly committed, And of all the hard things which ungodly sinners have spoken against Him.” Excerpt From Researchers Library of Ancient Texts Vol 1. Page 5.
We also see the Book of Enoch quote Genesis 6.
Enoch chapter 6:1 “And it came to pass when the children of men had multiplied that in those days were born unto them beautiful and comely daughters. 2 And the angels, the children of the heaven, saw and lusted after them, and said to one another: “Come, let us choose us wives from among the children of men and beget us children.’ Excerpt From Researchers Library of Ancient Texts Vol 1. Page 9. Enoch chapter 7: “1And all the others together with them took unto themselves wives, and each chose for himself one, and they began to go in unto them and to defile themselves with them, and they taught them charms and enchantments, and the cutting of roots, and made them acquainted with plants. 2 And they became pregnant, and they bare great giants, whose height was three thousand ells: 3 Who consumed all the acquisitions of men. And when men could no longer sustain them, 4the giants turned against them and devoured mankind. 5 And they began to sin against birds, and beasts, and reptiles, and fish, and to devour one another’s flesh, and drink the blood.” ...Enoch chapter 9: “8 And they have gone to the daughters of men upon the earth, and have slept with the women, and have defiled themselves, and revealed to them all kinds of sins. 9 And the women have borne giants, and the whole earth has thereby been filled with blood and unrighteousness.”
Enoch chapter 10: “1Then said the Most High, the Holy and Great One spake, and sent Uriel to the son of Lamech, and said to him: 2‘ and tell him in my name “Hide thyself!” and reveal to him the end that is approaching: that the whole earth will be destroyed, and a deluge is about to come upon the whole earth, and will destroy all that is on it. 3 And now instruct him that he may escape and his seed may be preserved for all the generations of the world.” Excerpt From Researchers Library of Ancient Texts Vol 1.
Again, this doesn't make the book of Enoch biblical canon but Jude and others reference it, to inform us of the story so we can understand the biblical context. Now we can choose to not agree with this understanding but to outright reject it and not take an honest look at it biblically to me is disingenuous and misleading.
I hope it helps though, take care.
As a further note we have to ask ourselves which came first the biblical account or the pagan account?
Some have speculated that these hybrid -human/divine offspring were the originals and then came the pagan "gods" myths based on the biblical account.
What if these fallen angels had sex with human women and created these hybrids and these hybrids ruled mankind as "gods" or beings humans worshipped?
Deuteronomy:32:15...“But Jeshurun grew fat and kicked; You grew fat, you grew thick, You are obese! Then he forsook God who made him, And scornfully esteemed the Rock of his salvation. 16 They provoked Him to jealousy with foreign gods; With abominations they provoked Him to anger. 17 They sacrificed to demons, not to God, To gods they did not know, To new gods, new arrivals That your fathers did not fear. 18 Of the Rock who begot you, you are unmindful, And have forgotten the God who fathered you.
Today, we erect statues as a reminder of actual people who lived in the past. Sports figures, leaders, heroes, etc. What if idol worship, is where people worshipped statues made of rock and stone were representations of actual beings? And when the flood came and destroyed their mortal bodies these hybrids became disembodied spirits, demons that roamed the earth? What if these idols inhabited these disembodied spirits? Just some thoughts that might help with the context of Scripture. I hope this helps. Take care.
They did not they were intermarrying that’s what Adventist say
@shabadsadana2650 Can you explain "intermarrying"?
AMEN!
Why AMEN? Hank doesn't even classify the topic correctly. We're talking about fallen angels, not demons. I know this isn't a salvation issue but if we're going to study Scripture shouldn't we study Scripture? I think so. This is a bit long but I hope it helps you as a study on the topic.
Sadly, as I said there is no clarification that the belief is about fallen angels, not demons. Yes Demons are disembodied spirits so in that way the video is correct but that's not the argument. The actual belief is that fallen angels, divine beings came down and had sex with human women and produced abominations- divine/human hybrids. This aspect is not addressed so either the video is blatantly misleading by confusing the topic or it's not informed enough to understand the topic to talk about it. Only the creator knows which.
Second, let's examine this topic from a biblical standpoint. In Luke 17 Jesus says
26 And as it was in the days of Noah, so it will be also in the days of the Son of Man: 27 They ate, they drank, they married wives, they were given in marriage, until the day that Noah entered the ark, and the flood came and destroyed them all. 28 Likewise as it was also in the days of Lot: They ate, they drank, they bought, they sold, they planted, they built; 29 but on the day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven and destroyed them all. 30 Even so will it be in the day when the Son of Man is revealed.
So Jesus links Genesis 6 and 18, He also links these 2 with His 2nd Coming. This tells us that these events are unlike any in biblical history. That there is something that sets them all apart. So it's not a group of men having sex with women and it's not about homosexuality because we see these things in Babylon, Egypt, Canaan, and the Roman Empire.
Then we see Peter in 2 Peter also connects these 2 events but Peter says that the angels somehow sinned that it caused them to be chained in prison for it. Now we know these weren't all the angels because of Scripture. So what set this group apart?
2 Peter 2: 4 For if God did not spare the angels who sinned, but cast them down to Tartarus (deepest part of Hades) and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved for judgment; 5 and did not spare the ancient world, but saved Noah, one of eight people, a preacher of righteousness, bringing in the flood on the world of the ungodly; 6 and turning the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah into ashes, condemned them to destruction, making them an example to those who afterward would live ungodly; 7 and delivered righteous Lot, who was oppressed by the filthy conduct of the wicked 8 (for that righteous man, dwelling among them, tormented his righteous soul from day to day by seeing and hearing their lawless deeds)
We see in Genesis 18 that the LORD appeared as a man, but as soon as Abraham saw this "man" he bowed and offered the LORD rest, food and water.
Gen 18:1 Then the Lord appeared to him by the terebinth trees of Mamre, as he was sitting in the tent door in the heat of the day. 2 So he lifted his eyes and looked, and behold, three men were standing by him; and when he saw them, he ran from the tent door to meet them, and bowed himself to the ground, 3 and said, “My Lord, if I have now found favor in Your sight, do not pass on by Your servant. 4 Please let a little water be brought, and wash your feet, and rest yourselves under the tree. 5 And I will bring a morsel of bread, that you may refresh your hearts. After that you may pass by, inasmuch as you have come to your servant.”
Notice Lot has the same reaction yet no social media existed for Abraham to let Lot know the angels were coming.
Genesis 19:1 Now the two angels came to Sodom in the evening, and Lot was sitting in the gate of Sodom. When Lot saw them, he rose to meet them, and he bowed himself with his face toward the ground. 2 And he said, “Here now, my lords, please turn in to your servant’s house and spend the night, and wash your feet; then you may rise early and go on your way.” And they said, “No, but we will spend the night in the open square.” 3 But he insisted strongly; so they turned in to him and entered his house. Then he made them a feast, and baked unleavened bread, and they ate. This tells us that in the age of Abraham and Lot the LORD appearing in human form or angels appearing in human form was not uncommon. There was a process of hospitality, of welcome that both Abraham and Lot followed. They were also, not shocked or in fear as we see later in Scripture. They saw these beings and bowed and welcomed them in.
To me, this speaks of a time we have no clue about. Now let's go further back
Job 1: 6 Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the Lord, and Satan also came among them. 7 And the Lord said to Satan, “From where do you come?” So Satan answered the Lord and said, “From going to and fro on the earth, and from walking back and forth on it.”
Revelation 12 tells us who Satan is: 9 So the great dragon was cast out, that serpent of old, called the Devil and Satan, who deceives the whole world; he was cast to the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.
Genesis 6 Now it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born to them, 2 that the sons of God saw the daughters of men, that they were beautiful; and they took wives for themselves of all whom they chose. 3 And the Lord said, “My Spirit shall not strive with man forever, for he is indeed flesh; yet his days shall be one hundred and twenty years.” 4 There were [b]giants on the earth in those days, and also afterward, when the sons of God came in to the daughters of men and they bore children to them. Those were the mighty men who were of old, men of renown.
Notice the term "sons of GOD".
In Scripture, the "sons of GOD" refers to beings directly created by the LORD.
Adam: Luke 3:37 the son of Methuselah, the son of Enoch, the son of Jared, the son of Mahalalel, the son of Cainan, 38 the son of Enosh, the son of Seth, the son of Adam, the son of God.
Jesus obviously was called The Son of GOD.
Christians: Galatians 3:26 For you are all sons of God through faith in Christ Jesus.
Why? 2 Cor 5:17 Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation; old things have passed away; behold, all things have become new.
Angelic beings: Job 1:6 Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the Lord, and Satan also came among them. 7 And the Lord said to Satan, “From where do you come?”
So Satan answered the Lord and said, “From going to and fro on the earth, and from walking back and forth on it.”
Job 38:To what were its foundations fastened? Or who laid its cornerstone, 7 When the morning stars sang together, And all the sons of God shouted for joy?
(Continued in Part 2)
Part 2/2 Lastly, we have the book of Jude which 1. talks about this and 2 quotes a different book for reference.
1. Jude 1:6 And the angels who did not keep their proper domain, but left their own abode, He has reserved in everlasting chains under darkness for the judgment of the great day; 7 as Sodom and Gomorrah, and the cities around them in a similar manner to these, having given themselves over to sexual immorality and gone after strange flesh, are set forth as an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.
So some angels left their "abode" which is Heaven. This caused the LORD to punish these angels "reserved in everlasting chains under darkness for the judgment of the great day" again referencing Sodom and Gomorrah. These angels had given themselves over to sexual immorality. The context is not about the people of Sodom but the angles and what happened in Sodom. The angels were sexually immoral. they went after "strange flesh" whatever that was. and they became an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire. This is about the angels.
Then Jude quotes another book.
2. 14 Now Enoch, the seventh from Adam, prophesied about these men also, saying, “Behold, the Lord comes with ten thousands of His saints, 15 to execute judgment on all, to convict all who are ungodly among them of all their ungodly deeds which they have committed in an ungodly way, and of all the harsh things which ungodly sinners have spoken against Him.”
Now I am not saying the book of Enoch is biblical canon but Jude quotes it, not to make it canon but to show us what happened. Just like I may point to a commentary on the Bible for a passage, it doesn't make the commentary biblical canon but I'm using it to show what I believe is the meaning of that passage.
Book of Enoch: Chapter 1:9 "And behold! He cometh with ten thousands of His holy ones To execute judgment upon all, And to destroy all the ungodly: And to convict all flesh Of all the works of their ungodliness which they have ungodly committed, And of all the hard things which ungodly sinners have spoken against Him.” Excerpt From Researchers Library of Ancient Texts Vol 1. Page 5.
We also see the Book of Enoch quote Genesis 6.
Enoch chapter 6:1 “And it came to pass when the children of men had multiplied that in those days were born unto them beautiful and comely daughters. 2 And the angels, the children of the heaven, saw and lusted after them, and said to one another: “Come, let us choose us wives from among the children of men and beget us children.’ Excerpt From Researchers Library of Ancient Texts Vol 1. Page 9. Enoch chapter 7: “1And all the others together with them took unto themselves wives, and each chose for himself one, and they began to go in unto them and to defile themselves with them, and they taught them charms and enchantments, and the cutting of roots, and made them acquainted with plants. 2 And they became pregnant, and they bare great giants, whose height was three thousand ells: 3 Who consumed all the acquisitions of men. And when men could no longer sustain them, 4the giants turned against them and devoured mankind. 5 And they began to sin against birds, and beasts, and reptiles, and fish, and to devour one another’s flesh, and drink the blood.” ...Enoch chapter 9: “8 And they have gone to the daughters of men upon the earth, and have slept with the women, and have defiled themselves, and revealed to them all kinds of sins. 9 And the women have borne giants, and the whole earth has thereby been filled with blood and unrighteousness.”
Enoch chapter 10: “1Then said the Most High, the Holy and Great One spake, and sent Uriel to the son of Lamech, and said to him: 2‘ and tell him in my name “Hide thyself!” and reveal to him the end that is approaching: that the whole earth will be destroyed, and a deluge is about to come upon the whole earth, and will destroy all that is on it. 3 And now instruct him that he may escape and his seed may be preserved for all the generations of the world.” Excerpt From Researchers Library of Ancient Texts Vol 1.
Again, this doesn't make the book of Enoch biblical canon but Jude and others reference it, to inform us of the story so we can understand the biblical context. Now we can choose to not agree with this understanding but to outright reject it and not take an honest look at it biblically to me is disingenuous and misleading.
I hope it helps though, take care.
As a further note we have to ask ourselves which came first the biblical account or the pagan account?
Some have speculated that these hybrid -human/divine offspring were the originals and then came the pagan "gods" myths based on the biblical account.
What if these fallen angels had sex with human women and created these hybrids and these hybrids ruled mankind as "gods" or beings humans worshipped?
Deuteronomy:32:15...“But Jeshurun grew fat and kicked; You grew fat, you grew thick, You are obese! Then he forsook God who made him, And scornfully esteemed the Rock of his salvation. 16 They provoked Him to jealousy with foreign gods; With abominations they provoked Him to anger. 17 They sacrificed to demons, not to God, To gods they did not know, To new gods, new arrivals That your fathers did not fear. 18 Of the Rock who begot you, you are unmindful, And have forgotten the God who fathered you.
Today, we erect statues as a reminder of actual people who lived in the past. Sports figures, leaders, heroes, etc. What if idol worship, is where people worshipped statues made of rock and stone were representations of actual beings? And when the flood came and destroyed their mortal bodies these hybrids became disembodied spirits, demons that roamed the earth? What if these idols inhabited these disembodied spirits? Just some thoughts that might help with the context of Scripture. I hope this helps. Take care.
@@mbfrommb3699I do not need your help, the Holy Spirit is my teacher. Demons nor fallen angels have seed & cannot create offspring. I know the Holy Wors very well & am very blessed with His discernment.
I pray u pray for His understanding rather than relying on your own in Jesus’ almighty name 🙏
Yes demon have sex with women, the good angels have it. How do you think with those bad angels!. Thats why we incounters sometimes evil spirits!. They are the fruits of such activities