Playing Pauper: Sultai Land Destruction

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  • If you've followed the site and channel for a while you'll know that we used to have a regular Pauper series before Jake retired from Magic content. Now, with Pauper being one of the hot topics in the community, the time felt right to bring it back! So today we're jumping into a Pauper league to play a deck we featuring in an Instant Deck Tech way back in September: Sultai Land Destruction. The basic idea of the deck is simple: we ramp a bit and blow up as many of our opponent's lands as possible before eventually closing things out with [[Mulldrifter]] or [[Dinrova Horror]]. Can land destruction work in Pauper? Let's find out!
    Two quick things before we get to the videos. First, I play Pauper much less than other formats, so bear in mind that we're sort of learning as we go to some extent, especially when it comes to things like matchups and sideboard cards. Second, I'm not sure what's best for the article part of the series, so if you have some ideas for what you'd like to see, make sure to let me know in the comments. Right now I'm shooting for an episode every other week, although it's possible that during busy times it will be more like once a month. Anyway, with this stuff out of the way, let's check out Sultai Land Destruction!
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    Match 1: 1:50
    Match 2: 17:26
    Match 3: 27:54
    Match 4: 42:43
    Match 5: 1:01:52
    Wrap Up: 1:10:55

ความคิดเห็น • 212

  • @parkerarchuleta3713
    @parkerarchuleta3713 6 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    *Scries swamp to bottom*
    Well we never found our swamp...

  • @RicTakaden
    @RicTakaden 6 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    End of game 1: "We never did find our swamp, huh?"
    Five minutes earlier: "Condescend.. Swamp, Mindstone... bottom bottom."
    Gee I wonder where it went 🤣
    Loved the vid, Pauper is always interesting to see!

  • @HTHfilms
    @HTHfilms 6 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Wow Seth's level of salt during the first tron game was at lethal doses.

    • @Nr4747
      @Nr4747 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Seth seems to have a slight bias against Tron in that it doesn't seem to be his favorite archetype.

  • @LaughingDragon17
    @LaughingDragon17 6 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    You're making some great content Seth. I'm really enjoying it. I'm currently not playing much magic, but this is all pretty fun to watch, so thank you.

  • @cloudmane4159
    @cloudmane4159 6 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    I watched some guy on TH-cam named stalven play a mono black Pauper LD deck last week. It's got 16 land destruction spells that cost mostly 3 mana, black card draw, dark ritual, chittering rats and gurmag angler.
    Idk his win/loss but it was absolutely incredible. Like, popping a land EVERY SINGLE TURN is so brutal.

    • @diegocrusius
      @diegocrusius 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      thank you so much Jason. Here is the vid
      th-cam.com/video/U21geefzyug/w-d-xo.html

    • @KSE828
      @KSE828 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      I’ve played against that deck a couple of times and it seems inconsistent.

  • @lanterngeist5592
    @lanterngeist5592 6 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    thanks so much for bringing this series back :)

  • @lingzhou6067
    @lingzhou6067 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just making a note to say: I love the quick run downs at the beginning of these videos. Often times, I just want to get a quick look at the cards and get into the game, and the speed at which you do them is perfect for me.

  • @scottpearson9846
    @scottpearson9846 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    thank you for the fast deck tech. i could pause to read the cards, and you covered enough of it to get invested in the 1st match

  • @bryantan4228
    @bryantan4228 6 ปีที่แล้ว +51

    Jake you are back! Your voice sounds different though...

    • @romajimamulo
      @romajimamulo 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Bryan Tan it sounds just Seth for some reason...

    • @boontish1104
      @boontish1104 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I miss jake. I hope he's well.

  • @OsseusChicago
    @OsseusChicago 6 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Omg it's back!!! So happy to see. Also early so another bonus. Please keep them coming Seth!

  • @tomjackal5708
    @tomjackal5708 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    "in shambles"

  • @trentparker7426
    @trentparker7426 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yes!!! I miss Jake but so hyped for the return of playing pauper!

  • @SourceOfWill
    @SourceOfWill 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I can't get enough of watching you agonize over whether to scry to the top or bottom when you know you're going to shuffle immediately after the scry. XD

  • @CSDragon
    @CSDragon 6 ปีที่แล้ว +44

    10:40 ??? you had an island in hand
    You were hitting your land drop that turn, start using removal

  • @meatrace
    @meatrace 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    This deck should be called Mullshambler.

  • @johnathonhiner3015
    @johnathonhiner3015 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm waiting to buy this guys T-Shirt....."And our opponent scoops it up", I love watching this guy play.

  • @alecausderbeek5918
    @alecausderbeek5918 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    So happy for the return of playing pauper!!

  • @lordtyman
    @lordtyman 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Woot Pauper I don't know anything about Pauper but still Hype I mean Look at that sexy budget.

    • @NameEntry
      @NameEntry 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      anxiety disorder That's what pauper is. All commons.

    • @lordtyman
      @lordtyman 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yup after some "research/finally subbing to The Professor," I learnt many beautiful things candy wait to Seth just play a deck with 4 brainstorm, 4 ponder, 4 preordain, and 4 opt, just because.

  • @657rem1
    @657rem1 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I like the new format of video! Keep it up

  • @sessmurda
    @sessmurda 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for the great content as always Seth. Around @51:30 you talk about lack of non-black sweepers, but there is a rarely played red sweeper in pauper, Swirling Sandstorm. That being said I'd never play around it unless I saw it, and you normally only see it in graveyard decks.

    • @MTGGoldfish
      @MTGGoldfish  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks! I'll check it out!

  • @FalconPAAAWNCH12345
    @FalconPAAAWNCH12345 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great to see pauper is back!

  • @jumbledump
    @jumbledump 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I've never seen a pauper game before. Now i got to research the format.

  • @Level_1_Frog
    @Level_1_Frog 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    YES!! Thank you for brining back this series!

  • @alexandercato7400
    @alexandercato7400 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love the pauper deck video!

  • @benkindel9311
    @benkindel9311 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    "Lose to all Delver, great against non-Delver" is kind of a thing in Pauper unfortunately. Or fortunately depending on your take I guess. It's just a thing you gotta keep in mind, but having a terrible matchup against Delver tends not to make for a good deck. Because you will see it all the time nonstop forever.
    But anyway, happy to see Pauper content! Please keep it up! This deck looked neat when you did the deck tech on it and I wasn't suuuper impressed with the performance this time but it definitely wasn't awful and I think it could be tuned into something scary.

  • @benlittle5543
    @benlittle5543 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yes yes yes! Playing pauper returns!

  • @johnterbot2829
    @johnterbot2829 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I've been making my way through the Playing Pauper backlog the past few weeks; sad that Jake isn't also back. :(

  • @MrCarri
    @MrCarri 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you! If you wanna play something rarer, you can try the classic RDW or a dimir teachings, if you wanna go grindy :) If you let me give you some advise, try to tap lands before bouncelands and always bounce the double lands that give extra life.

  • @procrobat
    @procrobat 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Keep it up! Also an interesting sideboard option vs Delver is gutshot, which also happens to be really good vs elves. I would prefer 1 mana ramp over the rocks in the deck though, but with all the tap lands I guess it does justify it by a bit.

  • @paulm2163
    @paulm2163 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ah, Thermokarst, the perfect way to punish those fancy pants who run their snow lands for flair. ;)

  • @mpetry8470
    @mpetry8470 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I really like this sultai shell, though the engine of arbor elf and utopia sprawl used in r/g ponza can solve for slower comes into play tapped lands, turn two acid moss will make their day saltier 😀

  • @keithbarlow9701
    @keithbarlow9701 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Delver is so good. I get tired of seeing it so much though. Seems like it will be the dominant deck for the foreseeable future.

  • @iwakuralain3064
    @iwakuralain3064 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    55:10 I think that doomblade targeting delver would've been a pretty good blowout there

  • @Bryan-T
    @Bryan-T 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    LD huh, you have my attention

  • @eraquinn2350
    @eraquinn2350 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    YES! PLAYING PAUPER IS BACK!!! I'M SO HAPPY!

  • @grantmccoy6739
    @grantmccoy6739 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    The best part of the video was the first game vs Tron. The snarky comments were pretty entertaining.

  • @PalPlays
    @PalPlays 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I wish I could like this video multiple times.

  • @georgeogilvie-russell5967
    @georgeogilvie-russell5967 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Definitely one of the best thumbnails

    • @Riboflav1n
      @Riboflav1n 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      George Ogilvie-Russell that little fat goldfish lol

  • @alasanof
    @alasanof 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    It's nice your first opponent was so chipper about the loss.

  • @snappycaster
    @snappycaster 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    This seems like a really good brainstorm deck. I wonder why we're not playing it.

  • @michaelperkins3225
    @michaelperkins3225 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Game 1 of match 2, seems like a different sequencing of lands might have allowed a turn 3 Thermokarst, then repeat a Thermokarst every turn after that until you can mold shambler kicked.? First turn evolving wilds, then drop untapped lands after that.

  • @Dave_Ebert
    @Dave_Ebert 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    It's back! Hooray, today is a good day!

  • @binarycortex
    @binarycortex 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    That Stinging Shot is good against delver.

  • @NewSchoolPOKERstrat
    @NewSchoolPOKERstrat 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I’m not sure why no one plays U/B land destruction in,..
    Anything
    Some of the nice synergies I have found are;
    Memory lapse
    Mana leak
    Force spike
    Manasink
    W any land destruction strategy but here’s the sweet sauce,.. ready,..
    PONDER!
    I’m telling you guys it’s frickin sick.
    “Fix” there (you can use it on there library!) fix THEIR next few draws..
    You can make sure there’s such a slim chance they top deck land.
    If they play 33% land you should be able to put them on two turns no land and almost always get one non land on top (even if you hit a 3 land pocket you can shuffle!)
    Add to that; chittering rats, memory lapse, funeral charm,..
    You can essentially get time walks out of portent (you draw a card too right so it’s even an extra draw) lapse, and chittering rats.
    If you know they just drew their one land you can use funeral charm on their draw step (no card advantage here, but, it’s frickin rough)
    I’ve only played pauper w friends around the kitchen table but this sure feels like a real deck.
    I’m not playing vs anything amazing but I consistently stomp the few decks in my “Meta”
    What do you think?
    Is this a viable strategy for real pauper?

  • @cloysterd
    @cloysterd 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    God I miss Sea Gate Oracle in Standard. That's like my favorite grindy dork of all time.

  • @274pacific
    @274pacific 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    "No attacks. Let's stay on defense"
    30 seconds later: "Opponent goes attacking. Well, we'll take it"

  • @LoDaFTA
    @LoDaFTA 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey Seth, I prefer this format of deck tech + games all in one video better than the other way where everything is separated. I always end up binge watching all the videos anyway. But I think youtube algorithm must hate stuff like this, right?

  • @Gabrielmariz1998
    @Gabrielmariz1998 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video! Pls, play pauper every week!!! What about the next one be UR skred delver or inside out!?

    • @MTGGoldfish
      @MTGGoldfish  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Inside Out sounds fun!

  • @chriscunningham6401
    @chriscunningham6401 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Opponent said they were in shambles... a player after my own heart LOL

  • @DonovanPresents
    @DonovanPresents 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Deep Hours Aggro is a very competitive pauper deck. Surprised you didn't know.

  • @DaDangerDen
    @DaDangerDen 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    my new deck

  • @jonasagdanowski7593
    @jonasagdanowski7593 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    That shirt looks really good

  • @michaelperkins3225
    @michaelperkins3225 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Game 2 of match 2, instead of playing signet, maybe play evolving wilds fetching first turn fetching island, next turn play growth chamber bouncing island, then play island turn 3 allowing you to put a land on top of library, setting them back 1 land and a draw?

  • @GoodStarfish
    @GoodStarfish 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Pauper is like modern, but fun ;b

  • @LeviathanStorm38
    @LeviathanStorm38 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    This deck really needs a second swamp, to be honest. Probably for a growth chamber, since in a format that CAN be super fast at times, the bounce land is by far the least efficient.

  • @cassidizzle666
    @cassidizzle666 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Man these are so funny at half speed. Makes him sound so drunk

  • @rosenbaummilton7720
    @rosenbaummilton7720 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yay!!!! Play more pauper.

  • @TvV1ST3D
    @TvV1ST3D 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Pauper is good. please keep it up dude

    • @TvV1ST3D
      @TvV1ST3D 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      As for some deck suggestions: boros monarch, bogles, burn and affinity are all top tiers you can try out. Jake did a bunch of these back in the day but they are all newly updated for todays format

    • @ianmcabee8036
      @ianmcabee8036 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      hydralisk102 would prefer spice

    • @TvV1ST3D
      @TvV1ST3D 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Also for your second match, ghostly flicker should be banned, not tron. Tron is fine but flicker is what pushes it over the top. We have displace (a strictly worser version of ghostly flicker) to replace it and it will still fit in the fam decks as well as still do nuts things with mnemic wall

  • @Stevie28
    @Stevie28 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey Seth, can you play some kind of B/G Dredge in pauper? I'd really like to see your take on it.

  • @ActionGome
    @ActionGome 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    @21:58 keeping a zero lander sure is some greed. As we watched you do on the hollow one stream.

  • @hedonology
    @hedonology 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I feel like this deck is way better if it doesn't even try to grab black mana. Three colour manabases are quite hard in pauper.

  • @MarcosVBergamin
    @MarcosVBergamin 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    What is missing in this Land destruction is Utopia Sprawl, doing LD turn2 is devastating against some decks

  • @IdsFear
    @IdsFear 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    i would play some boomerang or eye of nowhere in this list, they can be used to interact and keep tempo in your favor

    • @Diotialate
      @Diotialate 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      With Temporal Spring? I'd pick Fatigue.

  • @ehallam08
    @ehallam08 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yayyy pauper!

  • @xaldrortenderofthevats8948
    @xaldrortenderofthevats8948 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    for the first tron game, the opponent hit the nut draw

  • @melissagrenier2200
    @melissagrenier2200 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Maybe try taking condescends out on the draw in some match ups?

  • @michaelperkins3225
    @michaelperkins3225 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    For the matchup against tron, what if you doom blade the wall with the ghostly flicker on the stack?

  • @___ooobodybagooo___
    @___ooobodybagooo___ 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Plays pauper... Buts its like that deck you don't want to play against Lolz. GG

  • @moosezilla666
    @moosezilla666 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    More pauper!!!!!!!

  • @goodshipzion
    @goodshipzion 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Claws of Wirewood or Evincar's Justice vs Delver decks?

  • @skynight113
    @skynight113 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Land D is great vs pauper burn. They run a really low land count and keeps them off fireblast. They normal only run 4-8 creatures 10 tops

  • @MrJoshAdcox
    @MrJoshAdcox 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Makes me miss Jake.

  • @snappycaster
    @snappycaster 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Watching that mono U matchup reminds me why I don't play pauper. I love the concept of the format, but in practice blue is just too powerful.

    • @snappycaster
      @snappycaster 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      My biggest hope with pauper gaining popularity is that blue gets some much needed bans.

  • @2long2cat
    @2long2cat 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Any chance we can have 1 pauper related video every 2 weeks or so? Is there a slight chance of getting Jake back for at least one episode? Some pauper brewing stream or an equivalent of goat(pauper) magic?

    • @MTGGoldfish
      @MTGGoldfish  6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hoping to have a Pauper video about every other week. Not sure about Jake coming back, it would be sweet, but I think he's pretty much done with Magic content. A stream is a possibility, but I'm not sure how likely it is at this point. In the past Pauper streams haven't been very popular, but maybe that's changing now.

  • @felipedossin2671
    @felipedossin2671 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    more pauper pls come to brazil

  • @Khazuki_
    @Khazuki_ 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    You should prolly board out the Acid Mosses against Daze and Gush

  • @griffinsalyer1804
    @griffinsalyer1804 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why not have better LD in the sideboard, like 1 mana active volcano

  • @lessercrow
    @lessercrow 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    For a second I thought Jake was back...

  • @bastienclarke1810
    @bastienclarke1810 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks

  • @johnathonhiner3015
    @johnathonhiner3015 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    The same with Hydroblast....double flick.

  • @skynight113
    @skynight113 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Should have boarded in the archers. They are the key card vs them.

  • @benw4401
    @benw4401 6 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    What happened with Jake?

    • @TheWinterPhoenix
      @TheWinterPhoenix 6 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Ben W He retired from making Magic content.

    • @ahunter7563
      @ahunter7563 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ben can probably read the description,he is asking WHY did he retire from magic. (Another job? i don't know,never watcher anything else than seth's content)

    • @MTGGoldfish
      @MTGGoldfish  6 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      I think he just got burnt out. He had some health issues, but recovered, so maybe that played a small part, but he felt like he had played pretty much every Pauper deck and just didn't want to keep recording.

    • @benw4401
      @benw4401 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Should get him on commander clash again. At least for one episode.

  • @chriswilliams6014
    @chriswilliams6014 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Temporal spring is some type of way

  • @xLadyDangerx
    @xLadyDangerx 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    You should call this series Pauper pondering

  • @Ogmobot
    @Ogmobot 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Plays land destruction deck. Sideboards out land destruction in almost every game. Never change, SO.

  • @sonsysy4195
    @sonsysy4195 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dinrova has a common printing?

  • @Jesin00
    @Jesin00 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    "Crypt Rats" and "Pestilence" are technically boardwipes.

  • @RabbitxDx
    @RabbitxDx 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is thermokarst legal in paper pauper?

  • @brewbrewbrewthedeck4138
    @brewbrewbrewthedeck4138 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Still bummed by the single, long video :

  • @DonovanPresents
    @DonovanPresents 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    You know Hydroblast can DESTROY red permanents, right?

  • @Zacknafin
    @Zacknafin 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Seph had me at LD.....

  • @SailingToo
    @SailingToo 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Man, the deck prices are off on the deck in the video compared to the website. Maybe ashbarens? Great video though.

    • @MTGGoldfish
      @MTGGoldfish  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      I don't know how much it has changed, but I recorded the video almost a week ago, so that might explain it.

  • @johnnytrumpet7178
    @johnnytrumpet7178 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sinkhole was printed as a common, I'd run it main board

    • @MTGGoldfish
      @MTGGoldfish  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sinkhole is weird. Since it was never a common on Magic Online it isn't actually legal in Pauper.

  • @avizueta
    @avizueta 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yes!!!!

  • @stifle97stifle55
    @stifle97stifle55 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    FINALLY

  • @123nazgu
    @123nazgu 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why no sinkhole?

  • @dakotabeal70
    @dakotabeal70 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Oracle dot deck?

  • @ComradeArthur
    @ComradeArthur 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Guess the tron deck didn't have 4 ghostly flickers

  • @TheAsator86
    @TheAsator86 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    the tron deck only plays 1 flicker so they were pretty lucky game 1

  • @johnathonhiner3015
    @johnathonhiner3015 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    The price of Ash Barrens right now in mtol is as steep as getting flicked by a world champion "Pencil war fighter" on the left side of the right testicle....its bad, really really bad.