While Thoughtseize does punish our janky combo decks, it also keeps legitimately powerful combos (like Inverter) in check. I think it's an important part of the format, even if it does beat us sometimes.
I played a Diligent Excavator mill deck with 0-cmc artifacts once. Ended up having to exile my own graveyard (with a Tormod's Crypt) in response to the inevitable Thoughtseize/Surgical Extraction combo threatening to take away my Paradoxical Outcomes which were the real powerhouse of the deck; better to lose one than the other 2 floating around in my library). So turns out janky combo pieces can fight off at least the Surgical Extraction part...sometimes!
A good burn player said the opposite when I was taking a long time on a turn in the mirror. It seems like it can be harder to navigate a game as a red mage than you would think in certain matchups.
@@melissagrenier2200 it was just a joke. As in, "hurr durr I play red." I know red decks actually take quite a bit of thought and can be quite in depth, especially in a format like legacy.
@@xxburichxx I think generally speaking the decisions you make are less multifaceted when you're just slinging lightning bolts compared to some other decks but in the end it's still Magic.
Hey Meryn, I'm a fan. I'm curious as to which build do you think is superior, in your opinion. Is the more frequent turn 3 kills worth the drop in consistency in your deck? Also, are reckoner and goblin worth running as 4-ofs?
@@davispo7550 I put a lot of thought and testing into my list, so I personally prefer mine, but the 1 thing I like from Saffrons list is Wily Goblin. I kinda forgot that existed, so If I built the deck again, I would add the goblin over Generator Servant. The servant dies so easily and always dies immediately.
15:27 you conceded without attacking with neheb. You could’ve attacked, pitched 3 cards holding onto the irencrag, maybe if you draw the war cry you just win the game. You grab fanatic, reckoner, rageblood and any other minotaur and that’s 11 exactly. Play to all your outs, make your opponent kill you
I was going to write the same. Seth has a tendency to scoop too early. In his last budget video, I appreciated the struggle against his instinct to scoop (which led him to win at the end). He should learn from that.
I found scooping early can always cost the game in paper or virtual magic. Make them kill you. I’ve won so many games at 4 to 2 life with no board wipes because the opponent thought they had it when really it’s not completely over yet. It’s only over when something hits 0
I have one in the sideboard. I think it would be possible to build more around that synergy, but having four Star of Extinction and four Deathbellow War Cry is going to lead to some really, really clunky hands.
36:45 You get to cast War Cry if you untap right? You have 5 mana on board and a feat in hand. You aren't dead on board, might as well make your opponent have the wild slash.
In game 2 against the black deck, after casting cathartic reunion (not off Nykthos), if you attacked with Neheb and discarded your hand you would've gotten 4 cards deeper and still been able to cast deathbellow to win off the devotion card.
That's tough. With a Nykthos already on the battlefield (and it being legendary) I think discarding both is the right play mathematically (we're roughly 90% to draw another land between Cathartic Reunion and our draw step). I think in this case it's more that were were just in the unfortunate 10% of bad outcomes.
Dude, I had to order Deathbellow War Cry the day the set came out because it's such an awesome card. I currently play regular minotaur tribal, wasn't sure how the war cry was going to fit but this is definitely an awesome take. thanks for the video
36:42 Concedes when he has enough mana to play Deathbellow next turn? 3 lands, Generator Servant makes 5 total mana, 4 for Irencrag, 7 from that plus the 1 left over allows for Deathbellow and win. So why concede? :thinking:
36:35 How was that miles short? You had enough mana to go off the next turn! 3 + 2 from servant +3 from feat = 8. I really don't like these scoops, specially in a deck that can just win in a turn it's worth spinning the wheel.
Yeah, I considered Fellhide, it's a bit awkward because it's black and doesn't help with Nykthos (plus, outside of the weird WB Auras deck, we did a good job at winning whenever we resolve Deathbellow anyway, the hard part is resolving it :)
@@MTGGoldfish Possibly better than the one of aggresor cause it is cheaper to cast, can trade with anything. But yeah getting off the warcry is the challenge. Tried it in standard both mono red and green/red ramp with rhythm of the wild for haste. Same result fun but inconsistent.
Why discarting 2 Nykthos?? you could float mana from 1, discard 1 of the 8 drops, and keep the other Nykthos for the win. or is there something I'm missing?
I think he was playing around a second thoughtseize when he chose to keep a second warcry. I'd have to go back and check to see if he could possibly keep 2 warcries and 1 nykthos but he wanted 2 war cry to play around discard.
Yeah, it's unfortunate that it didn't work out, but i think discarding Nykthos is the right play. The odds of us drawing a land from Cathartic Reunion and our draw step are right around 90%. It was just unfortunate that we were in the 10% that game :(
At 18:38 if you had not discarded Nykthos, you would have had lethal next turn with death bellow war cry by tapping the first nykthos then playing the second one and sacrificing the first to pay for it.
In hindsight, would you consider a playset of the white leyline in the sb over star and some other more niche cards in the presence of thoughtseize? Also, in my version, I went a bit heavier on the minotaur plan, seeing how every minotaur worthwhile enough is pioneer legal (other than some of the horizon changelings), but I think that the heavy devotion plan makes it much better. That said, I'm surprised you haven't thought of Neheb, the Worthy or Felhide Petrifier. For Neheb, is it because of the instances where you have a war cry stuck in your hand and can't get down to 1 card on the key turn? Petrifier, I can understand better, because it's black and you're running with 8 sources, but 1 copy over Minotaur Aggressor means a more castable, better minotaur and allows it to work with Rageblood Shaman in order to push all that trample damage through the deathtouch/trample interaction. Conversely, that's why Neheb would work as well, since first strike isn't heckbent dependent, and deathtouch/first strike kill everything in combat. On the other hand, I would love to see you try on a minotaur tribal list in Pioneer. I've tried both modern and pioneer minotaurs and have been tinkering with lists for a few years now. My conclusion is that vial is crucial for a Rakdos list to work in modern, while a pioneer list would need CoCo. But the concern about that is the mana, and I'll go ahead and say that I'm not good at mana calculation. Regardless, another wonderful decklist. Cheers.
@@MTGGoldfish Wishclaw Talisman maybe? Would bump the combo up to 9 mana but it's both not a spell for the sake of Irencrag Feat and you wouldn't care about the opponent getting it since you'd kill them before they can untap usually.
Clark Milstead it's rather difficult to attack before combat. If you mean attack to discard and look for the combo, that doesn't help either, because DWC doesn't win unless you cast it precombat
@@sheepy403 Drawing into warcry actually would have been lethal, you attack them down to 10, ironcrag into warcry to grab fanatic, reckoner and two other minotaurs to deal 10-11 damage to their face.
some people say the fairest magic is when your opponent does not interact and you destroy them on turn 3. i believe this to be true only when playing boros and mono red. because you dont feel bad losing to them. you feel honoured to be in the presence of a higher being
Well in your very first game of these matches, your opponents punt was worse. Moral lesson of the story is if you see Deathbellow War Cry you make your opponent discard it (or face the risk of getting janked out).
Why not include Oracle of Bones as another way to cast Deathbellow War Cry? I like the Boros Reckoner combined with the Fanatic of Mogis, but might I suggest Felhide Petrifier and Neheb the Worthy to add first strike and deathtouch to the haste and trample.
You keep mentioning counterspells as a problem. Did you play the control match up off screen? You obviously don't need to play it to know that it's terrible. I'm just curious is all.
I played against it while I was building and tuning the deck (before I started recording), it's also a common issue for decks that go all-in on resolving one expensive sorcery speed spell in pretty much all formats.
You know, Rakdos Minotaurs didn't lose much going from Modern to Pioneer. You can play it keyword salad, which is how I do it, going as far as to add Whip of Erebos for some longevity. I've won games turn five with 50+ hp regularly with the whip. Thoughtsieze is great to drag out a game to turn five. Though we can win turn four, turn five is usually the turn we win. The deck looks like an aggro deck, but it plays like Stompy/Midrange. It's not bursty like this build, but any hand can work as well as any other. Petrifier, Rageblood, Whip, Warcaller and Neheb the Worthy come together like a brutal puzzle and being such a cheap deck, how can anyone resist the minotaurs?
Against Phoenix you literally had it game 1. You pass, unless they have burn you untap, sac generator servant, cast irencrag feat, you have 1 extra floating because you had 3 lands then cast deathbellow with your 8 mana.
All minotaurs get +3 attack so thats 12, the minotaurs attack is 2,4,2 and then between 3 and 6 so another either 11 or 14. Mogis is going to deal between 5 and 8... So between 28 and 34 only with that card on an empty board. If there is an extra boros reckoner in te field that guy would add 9 more damage
if there was a war cry in the next few cards i think you could have won round 1 game 2. neheb also seems like exactly what this deck wants, surprised you only played one.
It would be a lot more competitive if Irencrag Feat made enough mana to cast it all by itself. I think Wizards might have printed War Cry at eight to avoid that on purpose.
U missed lethal or forcing a chump block to prevent them from being able to kill you against the jeskai ascendency deck game 1 if u sack the servant pay 1 colorless into the new generator servant and the other colorless into the fanatic of mogis they both gain haste
Who would win: every janky combo deck ever made or the very existence of Thoughtseize
It's a necessary evil
Thoughtseize plays the same role force of will does. It is a balancing tool.
While Thoughtseize does punish our janky combo decks, it also keeps legitimately powerful combos (like Inverter) in check. I think it's an important part of the format, even if it does beat us sometimes.
I played a Diligent Excavator mill deck with 0-cmc artifacts once. Ended up having to exile my own graveyard (with a Tormod's Crypt) in response to the inevitable Thoughtseize/Surgical Extraction combo threatening to take away my Paradoxical Outcomes which were the real powerhouse of the deck; better to lose one than the other 2 floating around in my library). So turns out janky combo pieces can fight off at least the Surgical Extraction part...sometimes!
5RRR: If you believe in Living The Dream, you win the game.
Thanks for the video!
"Now we have to think which is unfortunate." While playing a red deck. Spoken like a true red mage. The irony.
A good burn player said the opposite when I was taking a long time on a turn in the mirror. It seems like it can be harder to navigate a game as a red mage than you would think in certain matchups.
@@melissagrenier2200 it was just a joke. As in, "hurr durr I play red." I know red decks actually take quite a bit of thought and can be quite in depth, especially in a format like legacy.
@@xxburichxx basicaly any format that isn't pioneer/standard ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
@@xxburichxx I think generally speaking the decisions you make are less multifaceted when you're just slinging lightning bolts compared to some other decks but in the end it's still Magic.
@@melissagrenier2200 funny joke
just imagine what that first black player was thinking when he cast that thoughtseize
I played this on TH-cam last week. It was hilarious. Surprisingly decent.
Hey Meryn, I'm a fan. I'm curious as to which build do you think is superior, in your opinion. Is the more frequent turn 3 kills worth the drop in consistency in your deck? Also, are reckoner and goblin worth running as 4-ofs?
@@davispo7550 I put a lot of thought and testing into my list, so I personally prefer mine, but the 1 thing I like from Saffrons list is Wily Goblin. I kinda forgot that existed, so If I built the deck again, I would add the goblin over Generator Servant. The servant dies so easily and always dies immediately.
He should have shouted you out 🤔
You even called the against the odds, gread video btw
Do you have a link to your video? You make some sweet decks :)
15:27 you conceded without attacking with neheb. You could’ve attacked, pitched 3 cards holding onto the irencrag, maybe if you draw the war cry you just win the game. You grab fanatic, reckoner, rageblood and any other minotaur and that’s 11 exactly. Play to all your outs, make your opponent kill you
I was going to write the same. Seth has a tendency to scoop too early.
In his last budget video, I appreciated the struggle against his instinct to scoop (which led him to win at the end). He should learn from that.
Hmm, you might be right.
I found scooping early can always cost the game in paper or virtual magic. Make them kill you. I’ve won so many games at 4 to 2 life with no board wipes because the opponent thought they had it when really it’s not completely over yet. It’s only over when something hits 0
“Knee-heb, dreadhorde champion” thank you Seth very cool
With four irencrag feat and four reckoner it seems free to run star of extinction for the second combo kill.
It's in the sideboard
I have one in the sideboard. I think it would be possible to build more around that synergy, but having four Star of Extinction and four Deathbellow War Cry is going to lead to some really, really clunky hands.
This is the most Against the Odds I have seen in a while. I love it!
"Death?! Destruction?! MINOTAURS?!"
"the deck is really good at winning... 1 out of every 3 games"
my fav seth quote so far :)
36:45 You get to cast War Cry if you untap right? You have 5 mana on board and a feat in hand. You aren't dead on board, might as well make your opponent have the wild slash.
Yep, I mean usually they have it but still, forcing them to have it is always better than just conceding.
Came here to say this. Went back and double checked but if you get to untap you have the win.
A friend of mine is a huge fan of Minotaur tribe. He went nuts with War Cry.
I'd say its the sweetest Minotaur card since Didgeridoo (nothing tops Didgeridoo though).
My very first casual deck ever was a Minotaur tribal deck. You don’t know how happy this makes me
Glad you liked it!
In game 2 against the black deck, after casting cathartic reunion (not off Nykthos), if you attacked with Neheb and discarded your hand you would've gotten 4 cards deeper and still been able to cast deathbellow to win off the devotion card.
This was amazing! What a crazy and fantastic AtO Deck!!
Thanks!
I keep hearing "death metal war cry"
**Insert Slayer song**
Deathbellow War Cry would make a good metal ban name.
19:45 didn't have to topdeck the land if had discarded a warcry instead of one of the nykthos. I guess that'd play into more discard though...
Same thought, so painful to watch
That's tough. With a Nykthos already on the battlefield (and it being legendary) I think discarding both is the right play mathematically (we're roughly 90% to draw another land between Cathartic Reunion and our draw step). I think in this case it's more that were were just in the unfortunate 10% of bad outcomes.
@@MTGGoldfish you're right. It happens, it's easier to judge when the person judging is not the player. Keep working the way you do.
Dude, I had to order Deathbellow War Cry the day the set came out because it's such an awesome card. I currently play regular minotaur tribal, wasn't sure how the war cry was going to fit but this is definitely an awesome take. thanks for the video
this one was cool, its like a pioneer legal version of your ironcrag feet dragonstorm deck from a while back
At around 9:25. Did you forget to play Dragonskull Summit? Or am I losing my mind 😅...Oh nevermind....it was for Rankle. I was SO confused..
36:42 Concedes when he has enough mana to play Deathbellow next turn? 3 lands, Generator Servant makes 5 total mana, 4 for Irencrag, 7 from that plus the 1 left over allows for Deathbellow and win. So why concede? :thinking:
Seth's at 11 life against 3 phoenixes. He's PROBABLY dead, but not dead YET.
36:35 How was that miles short? You had enough mana to go off the next turn! 3 + 2 from servant +3 from feat = 8. I really don't like these scoops, specially in a deck that can just win in a turn it's worth spinning the wheel.
I love Against the Odds edition. ❤️
Thanks!
Hey Seth, can you do a Gideon control style deck? I have been thinking about it but I can't figure out how to make it work.
Love you man... great job brother.
Thanks!
Love this deck idea my dood
Thanks!
that gruul company build looked so sweet
That loss to the Sram deck was painful to watch
Yeah, that was a really crazy match. Usually when Deathbellow resolves we just win, but those one drop lifelinkers really made things tricky.
That deck they played looked pretty damn impressive
Gotta respect the opponent playing to their outs at 29:46.
If you added a fellhide pertrifier then all your minotaurs have deathtouch and trample so they only need to deal 1 dmg to any blockers.
Yeah, I considered Fellhide, it's a bit awkward because it's black and doesn't help with Nykthos (plus, outside of the weird WB Auras deck, we did a good job at winning whenever we resolve Deathbellow anyway, the hard part is resolving it :)
@@MTGGoldfish
Possibly better than the one of aggresor cause it is cheaper to cast, can trade with anything. But yeah getting off the warcry is the challenge. Tried it in standard both mono red and green/red ramp with rhythm of the wild for haste. Same result fun but inconsistent.
Seth had lethal at 25:00 he could have croped two of the 3 red pip minotaurs and 2 fanatics of mogis to deal exactly 20 because he had goblin
Why discarting 2 Nykthos?? you could float mana from 1, discard 1 of the 8 drops, and keep the other Nykthos for the win. or is there something I'm missing?
I think he was playing around a second thoughtseize when he chose to keep a second warcry. I'd have to go back and check to see if he could possibly keep 2 warcries and 1 nykthos but he wanted 2 war cry to play around discard.
You are correct he could have kept a nykthos.
Tap play land sac tap = 8 mana
Yeah, it's unfortunate that it didn't work out, but i think discarding Nykthos is the right play. The odds of us drawing a land from Cathartic Reunion and our draw step are right around 90%. It was just unfortunate that we were in the 10% that game :(
At 18:38 if you had not discarded Nykthos, you would have had lethal next turn with death bellow war cry by tapping the first nykthos then playing the second one and sacrificing the first to pay for it.
In hindsight, would you consider a playset of the white leyline in the sb over star and some other more niche cards in the presence of thoughtseize? Also, in my version, I went a bit heavier on the minotaur plan, seeing how every minotaur worthwhile enough is pioneer legal (other than some of the horizon changelings), but I think that the heavy devotion plan makes it much better. That said, I'm surprised you haven't thought of Neheb, the Worthy or Felhide Petrifier. For Neheb, is it because of the instances where you have a war cry stuck in your hand and can't get down to 1 card on the key turn? Petrifier, I can understand better, because it's black and you're running with 8 sources, but 1 copy over Minotaur Aggressor means a more castable, better minotaur and allows it to work with Rageblood Shaman in order to push all that trample damage through the deathtouch/trample interaction. Conversely, that's why Neheb would work as well, since first strike isn't heckbent dependent, and deathtouch/first strike kill everything in combat.
On the other hand, I would love to see you try on a minotaur tribal list in Pioneer. I've tried both modern and pioneer minotaurs and have been tinkering with lists for a few years now. My conclusion is that vial is crucial for a Rakdos list to work in modern, while a pioneer list would need CoCo. But the concern about that is the mana, and I'll go ahead and say that I'm not good at mana calculation.
Regardless, another wonderful decklist. Cheers.
Waiting for the Adaptation + Warcry = Eldrazi modern deck xD
That does seem fun, although its probably Dragonstorm on hard mode.
@@MTGGoldfish But who doesn't like hard mode?
Emrakul is the best Minotaur
Would a blue splash be worth it? Counterspells and draw/loot effects
Could be worth considering at least.
This is some quality jank right here
Would it be “fair use” to use the clip of “A Minotauuurrr!!!” From the 🎥 Role Models 😃 😀
Probably, I usually just stay far away from the line since TH-cam is really weird with copyright stuff.
How do you feel about skirk prospector? Maybe instead of the generator servant.
Might be worth it, especially since we have Wily Goblin for additional mana.
This is basically dragonstorm and I like it
It's like a mix of Belcher and Dragonstorm, but in Pioneer.
Izzet for Invert//Invent or Fae of Wishes? Seems like you need some way to tutor up your War Cry.
Also how did this possibly do as well as it did.
We were close even in our bad games! A tutor would be nice, but there aren't very many good ones that don't wreck havoc on our mana :(
@@MTGGoldfish Wishclaw Talisman maybe? Would bump the combo up to 9 mana but it's both not a spell for the sake of Irencrag Feat and you wouldn't care about the opponent getting it since you'd kill them before they can untap usually.
The triple Nykthos and then not drawing a land was heartbreaking ;-;
if only he didn't discarted 1 of the nykthos he needed
It turned out bad, but I think mathematically it was the right play. We're like 90% to draw a land from Cathartic Reunion or our draw step.
Conspiracy and arcane adaptation love this card
24:52 deathbellow into 2 fanatic and 2 reckoner is leathal with devotion to red being 10
Yeah! That would have been sweet, but the four Minotaur from Deathbellow War Cry have to have different names (so you can't get one more than once).
@@MTGGoldfish oh didnt read the whole card lol damn
@@MTGGoldfish also did you think about trying oracle of bones in the deck? thought it could be sweet
15:35 why no attack with Neheb before combat?
Clark Milstead it's rather difficult to attack before combat. If you mean attack to discard and look for the combo, that doesn't help either, because DWC doesn't win unless you cast it precombat
Oh I forgot that you’d use your only combat
Yeah, that's the main reason. Post-combat mana isn't as helpful.
I think you may have had lethal with fanatic thoigh
@@sheepy403 Drawing into warcry actually would have been lethal, you attack them down to 10, ironcrag into warcry to grab fanatic, reckoner and two other minotaurs to deal 10-11 damage to their face.
some people say the fairest magic is when your opponent does not interact and you destroy them on turn 3. i believe this to be true only when playing boros and mono red. because you dont feel bad losing to them. you feel honoured to be in the presence of a higher being
Well in your very first game of these matches, your opponents punt was worse. Moral lesson of the story is if you see Deathbellow War Cry you make your opponent discard it (or face the risk of getting janked out).
That is a good take away.
Why not include Oracle of Bones as another way to cast Deathbellow War Cry? I like the Boros Reckoner combined with the Fanatic of Mogis, but might I suggest Felhide Petrifier and Neheb the Worthy to add first strike and deathtouch to the haste and trample.
You keep mentioning counterspells as a problem. Did you play the control match up off screen? You obviously don't need to play it to know that it's terrible. I'm just curious is all.
I played against it while I was building and tuning the deck (before I started recording), it's also a common issue for decks that go all-in on resolving one expensive sorcery speed spell in pretty much all formats.
Game 2 almost gave me a heart attack.
Round 1 was brutal.
We were so close.
You know, Rakdos Minotaurs didn't lose much going from Modern to Pioneer. You can play it keyword salad, which is how I do it, going as far as to add Whip of Erebos for some longevity. I've won games turn five with 50+ hp regularly with the whip. Thoughtsieze is great to drag out a game to turn five. Though we can win turn four, turn five is usually the turn we win. The deck looks like an aggro deck, but it plays like Stompy/Midrange. It's not bursty like this build, but any hand can work as well as any other. Petrifier, Rageblood, Whip, Warcaller and Neheb the Worthy come together like a brutal puzzle and being such a cheap deck, how can anyone resist the minotaurs?
Against Phoenix you literally had it game 1. You pass, unless they have burn you untap, sac generator servant, cast irencrag feat, you have 1 extra floating because you had 3 lands then cast deathbellow with your 8 mana.
Why not include fires of invention?
You would need lots of Lands to reach war cry. It's better to ramp.
@@RobMedellin My bad forgot you actually need the lands
I must be dumb, can someone explain to me how you 40 someone? The most I can count to is 30 in any combination
28:00+ opponent would been dead from 35 without the fatal push. Therfore it must have been close to 40dmg...
All minotaurs get +3 attack so thats 12, the minotaurs attack is 2,4,2 and then between 3 and 6 so another either 11 or 14. Mogis is going to deal between 5 and 8... So between 28 and 34 only with that card on an empty board. If there is an extra boros reckoner in te field that guy would add 9 more damage
Yeah, that's a pretty good description.
You scoop too early seth!!! Miracles won't happen if you don't give them a chance!
I think this deck wants flame slash as a better removal than wild slash. Yes, instant speed is lost, but killing big things?
Flame slash is not legal in Pioneer.
Dragonstorm?
That's a good comparison too.
So this deck is 'minotaurstorm'
Ha, yes, basically.
Modern against the odds, Arcane Adaptation + War cry varient of sneak attack
Edit: add didgeridoo for extra spice
I've never had a first comment. It's too much responsibility.
Ill take some responsibility too by replying to you :D
#lameclaimtofame
the return of black red minotaurs..... against the odds classic.
28.21 I want that black white list
if there was a war cry in the next few cards i think you could have won round 1 game 2. neheb also seems like exactly what this deck wants, surprised you only played one.
Wily goblin isn't a minotaur. 0/10
a Wily MInotaur would go a long way towards improving the deck ;)
Plus what is more wily than a minotaur?
I wonder if War cry could have been viable if it was 7 mana instead of 8; you kept ending up just one mana short
It would be a lot more competitive if Irencrag Feat made enough mana to cast it all by itself. I think Wizards might have printed War Cry at eight to avoid that on purpose.
@@MTGGoldfish yeah probably since it is one of these theme booster exclusives and they are supposed to be not competitive I think.
It seems like your win-rate goes up in matches where you never see Deathbellow War Cry.
U missed lethal or forcing a chump block to prevent them from being able to kill you against the jeskai ascendency deck game 1 if u sack the servant pay 1 colorless into the new generator servant and the other colorless into the fanatic of mogis they both gain haste
Misplay both rounds 1 and 2 for the loss :( Didn't watch round 3.
What were the misplays?
Not even one Neheb, The Eternal?
I considered Neheb the Eternal, but we really want to cast Deathbelow pre-combat if we can, so making mana post-combat isn't that valuable.
Run more lands with this yeesh
All the turds passed to the opponents
ou eah!
Nobody:
Seth: this hand's fine if we draw a red source
7:30
"Knee-heb"
Mooo!
your opp didn't respect the War Cry. That was funny.
No one really expects War Cry.
of course that dummy took irencrag feat instead of the only card you'd ever cast with irencrag feat lol
You could run Nephalia Academy if you're really this weak to discard
Hmm, could be worth considering. Somewhat rough with all of our double/triple red cards, but it would help against discard for sure.
"kneeheb"
Before watching: please no Arcane Adaption
Not this time :)
Knee heb
667-th like, lol)
What a stupid deck. This is totally what Richard Garfield had in mind.
WotC reprint didgeridoo you cowards
Knee-heb