Chain Gang Cyclists Brunch Ride: is Elitism Still a Thing in Cycling?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 21 ต.ค. 2024
- I joined the monthly brunch ride arranged by Chain Gang Cyclists and there is also an occasion to talk about inclusion and elitism in cycling.
Communities like CGC and Moloko Cycling focus more on integration and it seems a positive move for our sport.
As usual I’m wearing a kit courtesy of Siroko Cycling, if you wish to shop you can use my direct link for an automatic extra 10% discount applied to the already reduced prices. No need for other codes, thank you!
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Thank you for watching,
Federico
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I’ve met all sorts of different people through cycling including making some really good friends, there’s alway elements in every sport, find what suits you and stick with it
Ciao Federico, I like your videos very much! It's crazy how much traffic you Guys have in London and in the Parks.😲 Keep it up 👍 Cordiali saluti Federico dalla bellissima Svizzera 😀
Grazie mille!!
Nice video your right all about cycling together having fun 🇯🇲🤛🏿🙏🏿
Great video Fede I’ve seen CgC out on the roads whilst I’ve been at work. I was very envious 😂. It’s so good to a group that is absolutely diverse and that is what cycling should be about . Cycling is very snobbish Fede you just have see some of the peeps at the Bun in Windsor looking down their noses at some of the bikes that roll in for coffee. Sometimes people for get it’s the person who powers the bike . That’s why I’ve given some people a good hiding on my 2015 Specialized Allez 😂😂😂😂. ( my only rim brake bike ) you did well to resist the urge to chase cyclists well done Fede 😂😂. As for that Dynamo guy well he should be ashamed of himself!! Keep up the good work my man 💪🏾👍🏽
I have a couple of good friends at Dynamo, but definitely that move was a bit too close. I like dressing up for cycling and I care for my bikes, but it should not mean looking down on anyone. I feel it's getting better
I've never been so only going on videos I've seen including this one but Richmond Park looks really nice to ride in but the sheer number of cyclists is crazy and would really put me off. Maybe because it's a Saturday it's so busy so perhaps mid week quieter but that looks awful. As for elitism, it definitely exists in cycling as it does in most sports I think. I've heard anecdotally that London Dynamos are particularly bad. Only heard one side of story though.
I'm fortunate to live and ride in Pembrokeshire that it's so quiet, there are cyclists here of course but a tiny number in comparison. Maybe in London so many go to Richmond as it's comparitively safe and quiet from traffic(?).
As it happens, I'd welcome more cyclists here as I'm usually riding alone apart from a club ride on weekend.
Anyway, another excellent and balanced video.
The eliteism really is a thing, I find that those people are often extremely insecure though and this can be clearly seen through their comments and actions on and off the bike.
I know, I really hope it's going to get better
Lovely view into London cycling scene. Love your attitude and ethos Federico. 🇮🇹 Cycling in London makes me sad for the lack of variety. Would love to see you explore Cotswolds Peak District Wales Lake District or Dales. It would be great content and you would think you are in velo heaven ❤
Absolutely, I would love to have more time to explore other beautiful areas!!
Very beneficial video to new and established cyclists.
Some of the newer groups are much more inclusive and lot less elite. The older standing groups probably do still have a bit of elitism around.
Great watch Fed!
If you haven’t had your food snatched from a bird at Richmond park have you even been to Richmond park!
CGC family 🫶🏽
Very true 😂 😂
The best way to eliminate eliteism in cycling is to avoid talking about 'the bike' or 'the kit' during the ride. Reserve that in the coffee shop.
There is a ton of things to talk about in life than those triangles with two wheels underneath you both while exerting effort forward towards your common destination.
But I so love talking about bikes!! And I like a nice kit! I can say I am Italian as an excuse??
@@fede1275 Off the bike, yes. During the ride, a nicer conversation could probably be about the Italians' love for pizza, or flowers.... or something.
Think of it like when you're in a Ferrari at a stop light, then the driver next to you says "nice car!", your best response would likely be a grin and the right foot on the pedal as the light turns green.
Eliteism!
@@jestag2 I'll work on my response when I'm in my Ferrari then 😂
Another fun video. Definitely 5:28 was what we in Canada call a "dick move".
Thank you, it makes sense... LOL
It is absolutely still a thing and bike shops can be the worst. We have a beautiful shop in my city which is owned by that guy who used to have a bunch of Tour de France victories. Twice I went against my principles by shopping there and twice the employee disappeared when he found out I'm not fast and didn't own expensive equipment. That's all it took for me to stay clear.
Yes, I can understand it can happen and it should not!
I remember when my first road bike needed a wheel repair so I went to the local bike shop that has a club. The mechanic there and this happened to a friend with the same model bike, basically said whats the point of repairing that because it was a slightly older more affordable bike. This instantly put me off joining there club.
In contrast when I took the same bike to the mechanic I use now he couldn't praise the bike enough, told me its a great bike and rides really nicely.
I think the elitism comes from the person more then anything.
Sure, at the end of the day it is down to the person's attitude
Those coffee cups are way too big. Less is more …expresso way to go 😁🇪🇺👌 lol .. coffee snob 😂😂😂 ..looked like a cracking day for a ride 😎 enjoy the summer mate 👍
Summer is amazing here, just not too consistent!
I feel like in cycling, most eliteism / snobism comes from perception. For instance I've noticed being greeted less by road cyclists when I'm in my Decathlon B'twin kit on my "mountain bike". The next day on my Carbon road bike in some Le Col kit and it is different. For me, I'm still the same guy 🙂.
Before someone makes some elitist remarks on le col gear: I bought it because there was a discount 💰 due to a Strava achievement🎖
I can understand, I guess in this case more than elitism would be some sort of road bike vs mountain bike group recognition. It would not be correct if you were on the same road bike and the different kit would generate different responses
@@fede1275 Yes, that makes sense indeed 👍,
There's no elitism in cycling just the occasional elitists who usually lack any real substance (all the gear no idea types). I been told only once that there was a lot wrong with my bike because it's cheap but they couldn't back their words with ability on their super expensive bike. The cyclists we've met who are exceptional on a bike have been happy to ride as part of the group and go with the flow. I looked at cycling clubs but have never taken the plunge, thinking groups are far more relaxed. Sorry for the long comment but you did ask👍
Riding ability is eventually a great leveller and reminder of what actually counts!
The very reason I never, ever ride in Richmond Park despite it being 'just down the road' - too many bloody cyclists!
Is that reverse elitism or am I just a miserable old git? 🤣🤣🤣
😂😂
Those aren't mutually exclusive. -- Old Git
what are those gates about absolutely ridiculous 😮
Badly designed really
Royal Parks are slowly squeezing the joy out of cycling...
Sorry I am late to the party everybody… just turn up to club rides on your single speed and watch everybody puff and blow changing down gears as you steam full gas up the hill…. 😂
Enjoying riding a bike is the only criterion necessary to be an elite cyclist.
👍👍
Imho these cycling communities are way more snobby than clubs.
My experience with both Moloko and CGC has been really positive, haven't been in a traditional cycling club though
At one point Federico, I thought I saw a wrinkle in your shirt, or perhaps a seam in your bibs was not perfectly straight, but then it could just have been a wayward whisker. Do not worry, I am sure no one else would have noticed.
Noooo, it can't be 😂😂
drivers must thing your going to turn right when your holding your go-pro out like that, at end of video
I watched the video and it looks different from how it was, possibly the wide angle lens. Traffic was almost stationary anyway.
It cannot stop surprise me why people like sheep gather in groups just in order to ride their bike. Riding in groups is way more dangerous, but they wear a helmet:)… That said, your videos motivate me to grab my bike and ride:)
But is also more fun
I didn’t see any fun. Traffic isn’t about fun, it should be about concentration, rules and safety measures, and by safety measures I do not mean wearing a fucking helmet.
I'm enjoying both solo rides and group rides, both have their positive aspects
@@tongotongo3143 I guess you ride with bad groups then.. normally everyone will point+call out traffic and ride a little bit careful
There are no good groups, all groups are dangerous for themselves or for other people. Good people are only solitary people.
Money makes the human behave a bit funny
Think
So basically RP no good for cycling now, great.
It's still one of the best places to ride, but they made some questionable decisions
Dentist cycling!!!
You need to invite Transgender cyclists to be a more diverse group.
I find myself more joining groups rather than inviting, I like to ride with everyone
Hiya Federico
If you ever get some free time , I would love to show you some of the fantastic riding up here around Manchester ( Peaks , Cheshire etc ) You won’t be disappointed pal 👌🚴🏻 I’ve just had one of my pals up here from central London , and he loved it …. apart from the big climbs 😫🚵🏻♂️
I'm sure I'll love it, just need to find some time!!