If you like Undertale videos, then why not subscribe? Discord: / discord Does Sans canonically only have 1 HP, or is this an idea made up by the fandom just like his pink slippers? #shorts
I always thought it to be way funnier to imagine that sans actually has as much hp as we do damage but still dies because we just hit like a truck at this point in the run
I just thought he had a normal amount for a monster lol In truth, considering his nature, it's probably 69 hp lol (Gaster's HP is a bunch of 6s, Papyrus has 680, if Sans has less than them it could be three 6s, but it seems more his style to be in two digits, so maybe 66, 67 to be in between the two, or 68? But knowing him, he wouldn't miss that free opportunity)
Gaster isn't Canon big dawg HE DOES NOT have a bunch of 6's as hp technically his name isn't gaster his sprite name is mystery man technically but everyone just calls his gaster because it gives him more character depth.
@@doobleylive2585 I don't even know where to start with you. Gaster may not be Mysteryman, but considering a "Gaster follower" who talks about him and says he's holding a piece of him appears to hold something very similar to the head of the Mysteryman sprite, it's VERY likely that Gaster is the Mysteryman sprite. As for his HP and connection to Sans? *YES HE LITERALLY DOES* Obviously you never fight him but Gaster DOES have stats in the code. He gives negative EXP and money when beating him *And the skulls Sans uses to shoot lasers are called GASTER BLASTERS in the code* Gaster is canon AND canonically has SOME connection to Sans If Gaster WERE to have some relation to Sans, for example, being Sans' father which is unconfirmed but lightly implied, it would make sense that said magic would be inherited from said potential father.
@@Thisguy0187"So Sorry" is someone's OC who ended up making it into the game (dont remember how) and has an entire secret boss battle on a specific day, if you want any more info on that I'd recommended searching it up. Hope I helped!
Sans having just one HP is badass. He's the essence of pacifism (and laziness lol) so of course he doesn't train physically or by acquiring execution points. And yet he's still strong. That's awesome! If anyone is butthurt and thinks that we're calling Sans weak by headcanoning him as 1 HP, I think you're misunderstanding what's so funny and epic about him being simultaneously the easiest and hardest enemy.
He isnt that stupid to have only 1 total HP, if he did, he would die from any regular incident in Underground. He gains his HP from sleep buff, which makes him have more HP than Asgore.
@@ctaplliekjiacchuk6478 I like the idea of sleep giving him enough HP to not be in literal mortal peril from the slightest of injuries! But I think that Sans having low max HP wouldn't make him stupid. It'd imply he's smart enough to avoid dying (as shown when he's clever enough to dodge in genocide)
@@fictey Yet no one else does. Sans is the only one who thinks to do it. He doesn't need more HP than Asgore or Undyne or Papyrus or even Froggit to be strong. He survives using his savvy.
And it works better than having hp defense or attack Also you could say he invested in skill since he has the most difficult to avoid attacks and has the retribution hp burn ability Or maybe that all comes with psychic power and he just invested in that instead
Honestly I feel like the 1HP thing is just because Toby had no reason to specify any health to Sans due to how the battle works in gameplay, he just dies in one hit because of Frisk’s LOVE or the real knife or whatever
Nobody gets it... Why do you think he doesn't fight until Genocide? It's not just that he can't be bothered, it's that according to his stats he'd be killed in an instant, but the thing is... He's also labeled as the easiest enemy in his check screen. Clearly they're referring to his stats and not his fighting ability, so his health being locked at 1 makes perfect sense even for as much as people want to deny it. The truth is, realistically Sans is a glass canon, and you can look at fan works and his different AUs and such and see differently, but og canon Sans has 1 HP, it's truly the only thing that makes sense given all the evidence.
Except fucking not, because Flowey's vines in Pacifist don't kill him. Besides, Mettaton NEO's CHECK stats are an outright lie, so why is Sans' suddenly not when it's entirely the same purpose as -99999 DEF? The canon HP is unconfirmed. Simple as that.
@@MrKubeRoblox ... You're not fucking serious right now, are you? IT USED THE FUCKING PHOTOSHOP FLOWEY VINES (tinted slightly blue for some reason) FOR THE SPRITE!!! OF FUCKING COURSE IT'S GREEN, THE IMAGE ITSELF IS! DOES THAT SUDDENLY MAKE IT HEAL? NO, OF COURSE IT DOESN'T; THOSE SAME VINES FUCKING HURT YOU IN HIS FIGHT IN NEUTRAL!!!
oh my god. Please. HP is always accurate. Defence is not. This is shown IN THE METTATON NEO FIGHT. BECAUSE TOBY GAVE HIM 30000 HP? What is that fake too?
@@crazygamingoscar7325 shall we talk about how much exp sans gives....0....how much exp is needed to level up from 19-20...50k.... he gives 50k exp....he has to have more HP then 1
@@errornekochara Why... would the health and exp be correlated? I'm pretty sure they're not previously correlated. For example: Temmie grants 50 exp with 5 hp and -20 df. Pyrope meanwhile has 110 Hp and gives only 80 exp. Theres no correlation between HP and exp. Its about how violent you need to be.
@@Imadog4834-qr9icMettaton NEO has negative DEF in the files and tons of hp so when you hit him, it deals an ungodly amount of damage to show how strong you've gotten.
I think Sans' max HP is 1, but considering you can restore health above your max HP in the game, he might have more than his max considering he sleeps A LOT.
He not only sleeps a lot he also uses items a lot. He drinks Ketchup, which the player is never able to do. Drinking Ketchup could overheal sans by a lot
@@JustmeKarma Well he can't grow his max, but he can gain more HP past his max without affecting it. Like he could still have 120 HP while still having a 1 HP max.
What else could you base his HP off of 💀plus theres characters like Gaster having a stat in the code but not ingame anyways, so I think that unless stated otherwise the stats in the code are canon.
@@SupremeBlade101 it didn’t show the damage counter for any of the monsters, so I doubt it. And its not like theres any physical injuries that you can see on the monsters anyway
@@vibinseal6416 The damage counter isn't aways needs to be present for a monster to be taking damage. For example killing Sans, Asgore and Flowey in geno, Undyne jumping of the bridge to save monster kid and the amalgamates (mainly snowdrops mom) just to name a few.
@@SupremeBlade101 Sans has a damage counter in genocide, and for Asgore I don’t think the damage counter shows because of how Flowey is a monster or has no confirmed base stats. Same reason why he doesn’t have a damage counter in Genocide, he’s soulless and not a ghost. Its like attacking a wall and expecting a damage counter to appear. Thats why he doesn’t have a set hp for when he ‘dusts away’, because he cant. Also just saying, the Undyne one isn’t relevant as it wasn’t during a battle.
A frog can kill him with a lick YET A FLOWER THAT HAS THE POWER OF SIX HUMAN MOTHAFREAKIN SOULS CAN'T KILL IT WITH A GIGANTIC DAMN VINE..... Physics :]
You're also ignoring the fact that frog would have to be either time-space-rendingly FAST to hit him in the first place, or clever enough to catch him off guard. Sans' physical body's frailty doesn't somehow make him less of a force to be reckoned with - he didn't survive this long on dumb luck
people think that because off-guard one-shot hits do the exact amount of hp the monster has (plus one), and sans takes 999 million damage when hit off-guard
The thing is game file stats aren't always exactly true, like how NEO in the game files has like negative 4 hundred thousand defense or something, while if you check it is a perfectly normal number
Also there something and that mettaton neo has so much negative defense to make sure he die in one hit its because of his massive hp that he need so much negative df to be sure he die in one hit from everything because if he didn't had negative defense the fight would be long so it cant be use for the argument that stats in the code cant be used
I'm on the not 1HP side but I don't believe that Flowey's vines are an attack. He clearly intended to use it purely to capture and not to kill so it probably didn't do any damage.
There is a theory that because he sleeps all day his health is ABOVE the default health. So he could have more than one hp but have a default of one hp.
Because they think he's cool. And because people make mods that are completely centered about him and him only. People always treat him as the strongest character despite the only thing great about him is the Gaster Blasters and his dodging mechanic, whilst other characters have obviously more and interesting gimmicks like Mettaton's ratings, Mettaton's essay question, Asgore destroying the Mercy button, Asriel's blaster attack, Asriel's Thunder attacks, Asriel's Star attacks and more
@@Hanzlolz-yy9ctI mean ngl mettaton has the best gimmick being the essay questions, ratings, and yellow soul. But other characters rlly don’t have many interesting gimmicks like sans does. Asgore is just a fight where you can’t spare him until the end. Asriels got cool attack patternss but that’s pretty much it. I mean after all,sans throws Your soul around like a tennis ball, teleports you into attacks, can INFINITELY extend his turn, and overall has the most advanced attack patterns in the game. The only thing I can see coming close is omega flowey with his save/load, unique design, soul mechanics, etc.
@@fictey I forgot to mention about Undyne can endure DETERMINATION in Genocide Route which gives us Undyne the Undying. There are also characters that have their own gimmicks like Woshua's wash (?) mechanic, etc. Also, ease up on Asgore. He literally broke up with his wife and lost his children
@@Hanzlolz-yy9ct undynes geno fight is the most BADASS in the game Frfr. Also I’m not trying to downplay asgore I’m just saying he did not have crazy gimmicks like most characters. THE SHOCK YOU GET WHEN YOU SEE HIM BREAK THE BUTTON FOR THE FIRST TIME IS CRAZY
im just confused why it even mattered for that playing as sans video anyway considering that the point was to make it so you were one shot so like in theory you could have had normal health but just have negative defense no matter the lv but that makes it way harder for the player to remember, plus there's an easier chance something could go wrong also, why does this debate even matter in the first place for... any reason? im genuinely asking because for lore it doesn't matter since genocide is the ONE TIME you fight him and he goes down in one hit, and every other time you fight him is in fanon so people could make him have 1 hp if they wanted, which again, makes it not matter really and usually, those sans fights are ALSO in genocide which would make sense for you to oneshot him most times anyway, except in situations like dusttale, where he distances himself as well in order to grow stronger, which then makes the creator boost his health, defense, and damage which makes the canon numbers legitimately not matter we can't rely on code, and the game certainly never tells us nor can we figure it out any other way unless toby just decides to end the debate by saying "hey guys sans hp max value is actually _____" so im kinda confused why people are up in arms about this whole debate anyways
I would be surprised if He managed to stand and talk after He got 9999 damage if He only had 1 HP, And I mean He Papyrus older brother so It won't make sense for Papyrus to have more HP than Him
Sans's death is a bit strange compared to other monsters anyways we never see him turn to dust on screen and he seems to have blood on him which the fandom headcanon is that its ketchup we just don't know sans is a mystery
Maybe it's because Sans has a DODGE ability, unlike other characters that stand still and take the hit. He only got hit since the heart was on the FIGHT button, and pressing Z moves the next set of dialogue. Preventing him from dodging at that moment.
To everyone saying that it's to script a one shot kill, that's not it. Whenever a one shot is scripted to happen like with Mettaton Neo, the defense is changed to be negative. HP is always consistent.
@@sheogorath6834 never looked in the games files myself, so wouldn't know. But tbf there are many situations in game where sans should have died, like seriously if he steps on a spiky twig he should really die, but he doesnt so idk. And just because health is consistent it doesn't necessarliy mean sans' would be the same?
@@jammydodgersvideotin2245 "But tbf there are many situations in game where sans should have died" Like when...? "like seriously if he steps on a spiky twig he should really die" We don't know how many damage this would deal (if this even deal damage) so idk what you're trying to prove. "And just because health is consistent it doesn't necessarliy mean sans' would be the same?" Like you said, health is consistent with everyone else. So tell me, why would that be any different with Sans for no reasons...?
The whole “Code says this” isnt by any stretch of the word an end all be all, as most main characters (most notably mettaton neo) have incorrect stats for the check compared to the actual stats used, plus sans having 1 hp would mean he’d die from a paper cut or stubbing his toe, i find it pretty unlikely. minor note, a friend of mine once posed the theory sans has 11 HP, keeping with the “1” theme of his stats while not making him more frail than a geriatric grandma, to the point he’d die of stubbing his toe
Monsters never have been shown to lose HP outside of battle. And sans has 1 def stubbing his toe is gonna leave him at 1 hp even if he doesn’t have exactly 1
@@gamercentral2417 there’s nothing that says it just for humans, I’m pretty sure the inn keeper mentions it, so if she knows about it then it most likely would happen to monsters too
@@user-1-2946jeff Ice Cube has an attack when it comes to multi-monster encounters, Jerry, ln the other hands, doesn’t have any attack no matter what. Sure, maybe Jerry is better in defense (obviously.) but not in attacks.
its one hp cause you never hit him in normal and toby made a way to be shoted in one hit it means if he hadnt a fight with dodging, his hp could be more than 1
I once had a theory, that says that Sans actually in the canon, he should have 11HP, this is because when Frisk Sleeps at the snowdin hotel, they do have 10HP more than his Maximum HP, so, Nothing Stops Sans From Having 11/01 HP, since he is a slacker and loves to sleep
@@ernestitorant_yt not so bad, actually, i mean i don't even know if i can feel pai- .....wait, you want me to ask you something about balls.... don't you.
I mean, it might not be canon. Lots of the geno fights have their stats altered to make them 1-shot, but have different actual stats. Because sans has no pacifist/neutral fight, we wouldn’t technically be able to know for sure.
You do have to consider, Mettaton NEO has a very large amount of HP, which can be considered canon, and it was made like that to show that he is very powerful health wise. The only thing for that fight is he has negative defense.
Game files aren't canon. Asriel has infinite attack, but only 8 atk in the game files. I guess Glyde is stronger than the God of hyperdeath now. The stats shown when you check an enemy are almost always different than the game files stats. Another example could be Mettaton Neo, Undyne, Undyne the Undying, Papyrus, and the list goes on and on. The game files have never been canon, the only canon stats are the ones you can see by playing the game. Sans' hp will remain unknown, doesn't matter how much yall debate about it.
@@Blockrooms Gaster doesn't exist, he has been erased from existence, he's not present in the game. How can something that doesn't exist have more hp, atk and df than a God like Asriel? (Gaster according to game files: 666666 hp, 66666 atk, 66666 df. Asriel according to game files: 9999 hp, 8 atk, 9999 df.) Yeah, Gaster is just an easter egg in Undertale. Gaster isn't canonically stronger than Asriel so he can't canonically have those stats.
@@Blockrooms that's because you can never actually fight gaster so the game files are the only place they exist, I mean we can definitely use those as a clue for Gaster, but that doesn't mean that Mettaton NEO canonically has -40,000 defense
People keep saying "no you're just really strong at the end of Geno" ...so you guys completely ignored what LV and EXP mean, huh? You're not stronger at all. You don't hurt the monsters more because you've buffed up, you hurt them more, and get hurt by them less, because monsters are harmed more by murderous intent than actual strength, and because you've emotionally distanced yourself so much that their "attacks" (which are magic, and therefore likely equally affected by emotions) don't hurt as much; do people read what the game says??
... You realize you aren't changing anything about the argument at hand, right? You're arguing unrelated semantics. From the player/human's perspective, we're getting stronger. Even Noelle in Deltarune says she's getting stronger, which technically isn't true. Who cares? Who _really_ cares?
Not really You're missing the part where your soul gets stronger, as stated by Flowey at the beginning of the game So you technically DO get stronger, but not by much It doesn't give you more DT, it just strengthens what you already have by making you numb in emotions and straightforward in actions This invalidates Dusttale, which is why fangirls don't accept it
@@narrativeless404 that may be true but it's a widely beloved fan work not because it needed to fit neatly into canon, but rather because it's an interesting concept that the community has executed well in enough instances to make enjoyable fan works. Obviously canon is much better because it sticks with his character better since he actually cares but that's only because the community ruined the concept very early on by misunderstanding it. If you couldn't tell, even despite its inherent lack of canonicity it's one of my favorite AUs simply because it shows the depths of Sans' resolve, willing to do something that he doesn't want to and actively regrets simply to try and prevent them from being endlessly murdered because he's the only one who can, he's the only one powerful enough and he's the only one who knows. I don't care if it doesn't fit neatly into canon, it'll still be one of my favorite AUs either way.
Nah coded stats arent canon he has 1 hp because from a gameplay perspective thats all he needs, theres no point in game where he would ever need to survive an attack (such as a neutral route fight) he only needs the 1 hp because iif it was set to 0 he would die before the battle starts
Litterally every "boss" are scripted to die in one hit in geno (except Undyne the Undying), yet Sans is the only one who have 1hp. It that was only because of that, Toby would have just gived him negative defense like everyone else.
@sheogorath6834 yes but sans is ONLY fought in geno the other bosses can be fought outside of geno and other than mettaton neo all the other bosses can survive multiple hit in neutral
Everyone in the comments trying so hard to say that sans doesn't have 1hp. It's weird to say the files aren't canon in a game made by the same creator who HID DIALOGUE in the game files. Besides, even if they aren't canon, that doesn't mean they're not right. It's more of a stretch to say he doesn't have 1hp with no evidence than it is to say he does have 1 hp with his actual stats displayed for everyone to see in the game files. And because I see everyone mentioning it *Flowey doesn't damage the monsters with his vines. He intends on stealing their souls and wouldn't want to shatter them. You also don't see any damage numbers when he grabs them. Also we only see Frisk gain 10 hp after sleeping, that doesn't necessarily mean it applies to monsters too. Besides, you can only get it to go 10 hp above the maximum if I remember correctly so even if it did work, that would mean Sans still only has 11 hp. (Also, you can sleep at multiple points in the game like in Toriel's house and the True Lab, but only when you sleep at the Inn do you get the boost. So it's not just simply sleeping that applies this boost.)
Yeah flowey definitely held back to not risk a single soul since he needs them to gain the power equivalent to 7 human souls (every monster soul=1 human soul)
I also want to point out Mettaton's defense in the files. NEO is set to -4000 I believe, which is intentional. NEO is unfinished when you fight him in the geno route, which is why despite him supposedly having higher defense than everyone else we've fought he goes down in one hit. And no, it's not for programming reasons as you one shot every boss monster no matter what as they are most likely event triggers. Which is why the damage numbers that pop up don't change at all, no matter your stats. (And no, that doesn't mean it's they're actual max HP as you can fight them in pacifist and see that their HP is much lower than the damage you deal in geno).
Are people really that stupid? I have seen tons of people denying this by saying 2 things, first: Mettaton Neo being one shoy by anything, NO. he has -20000 DEFENSE, not HP. And even then, it has a semi-canonical reason (Spamton Neo demonstrates he can change his DEFENSE stat, so it could be that Mettaton fought us with everything put in the ATTACK stat, neglecting everything else.) And some people are saying that the files do not count..... BRUH, thats literally the only thing that counts, but i guesd that for some reason Gaster's stats are void like him now, oh, and all of the secrets Toby Fox put in the files are also invalid then.
@@groswalker1636 so again, Gaster is fake, his stats are fake and everything else inside the game's files is not canon.... Yeah no, he did not say that, and Check stats are not so reliable, if Toby said something like that he might have contradicted himself right there (hell, if he even said it and not that someone just wanted to make that canon by using the "the creator said so" argument)
@@Bengt2509 Snowgrave route Spamton Neo changes his defense stat, so even if its a joke (which i think maybe, but it is also a clear reference to Mettaton Neo so that players link the two and maybe understand that most powers might be the same) it really much works yeah.
Mettaton NEO is coded like that so there's no way it can't be insta-killed, you will always kill him in one hit. and in the battle it shows you the canon stats. however, sans's ATK and DEF in the game files is the same to sans's ATK and DEF in game, so it can also mean sans's HP is 1, because the stats in game and in the game files are the same.
Not disagreeing with you, but using in game stats doesnt mean much, unless you're also willing to argue Asriel only has 8 Attack and that Glyde is stronger than him
But sans is fricking smart. I mean yeah sure dodgeing isn’t that impressive… but being able to teleport and have vast knowledge of quantum physics? I think sans could easily avoid injuries.
The game files do say that Sans has 1 HP, but they also say that Mettaton NEO has negative DF. (He actually has decent DF, but in the files he has a negative amount to show how OP Frisk is by now.)
Yeah, MT Neo has negative defense to guarantee a one shot. So does Toriel, and so does Papyrus. You know what they don't have? Lower than usual hp. HP is always consistent between actual fights and the files. HP is never changed to script a one shot. Only defense is. Why would Sans be the only monster to have both his HP and Defense changed for a one shot?
Contrary to popular belief, hp in the code and hp in the game are exactly the same. Undyne really has 1500hp for example. Also Mettaton NEO doesn't have "decent" defense, he only have 9, which is lower than Napstablook.
For that point every monster could die for one hit ( specially with the royal knife ) plus in the geno descriptions changes, so i belive that he had more hp , but for that point we belive that he had 1hp cuz he keps dogging, also it could be sans itself playing with our mind to make his batle even worse
That doesn’t mean anything. That’s like saying neo is incredibly weak when it really isn’t and you’re just really strong at that point. Canonically it has high defense, but in the code it does not.
@@narrativeless404 What kind of logic is this? Sans only has stupidly low hp in the game files so you can one-shot him. Same purpose, just done differently.
@@idk-cj8mn Nope MTT NEO has 30k HP, and Sans has 1 MMT NEO gets varying amount of damage Sans always gets the same ridiculous number, because it's scripted (and his file stats aren't even used by code) Sans is described by Chara as "The weakest enemy", and every check description has been more or less accurate Just accept your defeat already, *fangirl*
It just the code, if he even really has 1 HP, he wouldn’t survive Flowey’s vine in pacifist route. If the code says 1 HP, it doesn’t mean it his canon HP
He sleeps to add bonus HP to his basic HP, so imagine sleep math: frisk slept at snowdin hotel only 2 minutes at 1LV with 20HP = +10HP, now counting... he slept 8 hours... if he had 20 HP like frisk, he could've got 240HP, but he got only 1HP, so that means he will gain ×20 bigger HP = 4800HP
the stats in the game files are likely not canon, since the in-game check stats are different from the actual stats. however, sans is the only enemy to not have a health bar in the menu or after attacking…
Fair enough, but the thing is, that the actual stats in the game' code don't always accurately reflect the character's capabilities and limits in universe like Undyne the undying receives damage going into the thousands in her fight to convey how powerful you are when normally the player does a few hundred at most against normal enemies and Mettaton NEO's defence is -40,000 if I remember right but that is done to ensure that Frisk will one shot him to show how powerful the geno route makes you become rather than it being canon that a slight gust of wind could severely injure him. The same could apply to Sans since the player is supposed to one-shot him as you can only fight him when you are on the peak of maxing out your LV in the geno route.
The game can control a character's defense internally (separate from the actual stats) this is especially noticeable when muffet gets massively damaged compared to neutral/pacifist, same for toriel, etc, toby could have just as well given mettaton 99 defense and manually control your damage output Also, sans is even more of an anomaly, as the hit you deal to him isn't even actually any sort of damage for the code's purposes, it's all treated as a cutscene (especially easy to know since it's scripted damage, pure 9s), reason why the kill counter doesn't increase despite his death (toby forgot to manually raise the count by 1 after the battle, regular death code doesn't play out) He could have given sans 99999999 HP for all he cared, since it'd behave the same exact way it did His 1 HP simply means he has 1 HP
In fact, Toby stated what game code stats are not canon.. And u literally can prove it urself by checking mtt neo def! Cuz in code its -500 and it's absolutely not canon
"Toby stated what game code stats are not canon." That's a nice argument, why don't you back it up with a source? "And u literally can prove it urself by checking mtt neo def! Cuz in code its -500 and it's absolutely not canon" Contrary to popular belief, hp in the code and hp in the game are exactly the same. Undyne really has 1500hp for example.
Here's the big problem with this: Mettaton NEO has like 40,000 DEF _in-game,_ but is actually at like -99999 DEF in the files. Sans being 1 HP in the files means nothing, as that's very likely just how Toby made sure he'd die in one hit. So no, his real HP is _NOT_ confirmed in the slightest.
@@tealover2871 I'm not even remotely saying the two are the same. I'm saying that if MTT's stats lie to you to make Geno work, why the fuck do you trust Sans's stats, of all people, to be 100% accurate?
@@tealover2871 EXCEPT FUCKING NOT!!! What, is it suddenly now canon that every line of code that makes the game work is *physical,* _in-game_ *_assets?!_* Gimme a fucking break.
@@-E-s-o All of the Geno bosses (except Sans) have negative defense to make sure they die instantly (or for inflated DMG in the Undyne fight). But these bosses have in game stats you can check and look at in game, so those are obviously the stats that are meant to be taken as canon, while the code stats are understood to be the way they are to make sure the game works. But Sans' numbers aren't handled this way. He doesn't have negative defense like all the other Geno bosses. No, his in game stats and code stats are completely in line with each other, which is completely different from all the other bosses. The fact that his stats are handled so much differently than everyone else's makes it feel much more deliberate. Checking Sans tells us that he has 1 attack and 1 defense, and that he's the easiest enemy. Him having 1 HP falls in line with that perfectly. It's good story telling too. You'vs made it through the entire game, reached the highest LV you possibly could, you have equipment that gives you 99 attack and 99 defense and have a whooping 92 HP, and the only thing standing between you and beating the game is the absolute WEAKEST enemy possible, with flat ones across the board. It's good shit! And it might just be me, but it doesn't hit the same if his HP is 5 or 20 or 100 or whatever. And honestly? Just saying "Toby said the code isn't canon" is a bizarre argument to me. I can't recall if he actually said that or not, but assuming he did, so what? Sure, it makes sense to dismiss Undyne the Undying and Mettaton Neo having negative defense values in the code, but that doesn't mean all of the code stats are inaccurate. The code says that Asgore has 3500 HP, so does that mean have a different amount of health? No, of course not. That would be silly. If the code said Sans has 2 HP, would that suddenly make 1 HP Sans viable? The argument that because the code isn't canon, and the code says Sans has 1 HP, then Sans absolutely cannot have 1 HP is very, very silly to me. Yes, the code shouldn't be taken at face value when determining what is or isn't canon, the Geno bosses are proof of that. But when we have no way to gadge Sans' HP in game, and the only frame of reference is the code stats, which are completely in line with his other stats, and has perfect narrative cohesion, it just, makes sense.
Yo MysticSlime if this is the case there is one thing i would like you to explain: when you finally hit sans in the fight if he supposedly has 1 hp then why doesnt he immediately die or anything upon the 9999999999 damage attack and instead proceed to bleed out? If anything when he gets hit he should immediately die without any dust even to scatter either that overload of damage
Because sans has.... blood? It could be the reason he doesnt instally dust away Also remember, toriel gets dealt alot of dmg and doesnt instally die too
Because he's a boss. None of the boss dies instantly and most of them have a monologue before they dies. That means nothing lore-wise, that's just a game thing.
@@ctaplliekjiacchuk6478 There litterally nothing in-game that justify the boss not dying instantly. (Well, except maybe for Asgore and Toriel, since their souls are a bit stronger than others monsters)
Originally i thought that the friend who introduced me to undertale almost a decade ago was making it up because he was tired But now i finally have my conformation
Its been Stated by Toby that Game Files Are not Canon Stats in the game files are actually different than the ones we see in game for some characters, so his 1 HP is made up by the Fandom If he really did have 1 HP, Flowey's Vines would've killed him in the true pacifist route
Maybe Flowey's attack dealt less than a single point of damage? We know that's possible because Frisk also survives an attack with less than 1 HP remaining in true pacifist. Also, it could be a "restraining" attack that doesn't deal damage. Or maybe it could be related to the fact that game elements are implied to be canon. In genocide, Gerson knows he's safe from any attacks and since the shopkeeper UI doesn't have an option to fight he's right to feel safe.
Bro stfu the game files literally make up the game so idk why ur saying they are not canon. If you didn’t know, a game needs files to run. Get better at fact checking. And for the flower thing, that is a scripted thing to do because it is a cutscene. And also, where is ur proof that Toby said that. Get better at fact checking.
Ershhhmenstatg aggshually the vines didn't deal any damage. And also, if you see any other monster, while their code def and atk ain't Canon, hp always is.
I personally believe Sans has 69 hp Papyrus has 680 iirc and we all know Gaster has a bunch of 6s for HP So Sans' HP could be 68, or 66 like his brother or dad but in two digits alone, or just 6 hp... But knowing how much of a memelord he is? *Sans probably canonically has 69 hp*
Fanon shit, that's what Also it's Epic Sans that's a memelord, Classic is just your local lazy fried snow dealer that tells bad puns about bones, that's it
@@Octopus2480 He speaks in a font in a single case and the mysteryman sprite which is nearly confirmed to be gaster thanks to the follower holding a head that looks VERY similar to a skeleton. He is almost confirmed to be a Skeleton. All the ghosts are in one family, all the goats are in one family, the snowdrakes are in one family, etc which means that the same species of monster are USUALLY of the same family Therefore he could be their brother, grandpa, father, etc. Either way it is HIGHLY implied that Gaster is related to them (Plus the Gaster blasters could be hereditary) Get your semantics out of my face, Gaster is implied to be related to the brothers. Is that better?
We also know that the stats in the files are also full of lies sometimes, especially in genocide to make sure you can insta kill some monsters. So I personally believe that sans has a normal amount of hp, maybe around papyrus’, and it’s 1 in the files so you can insta-kill him
Has 1 so you can insta kill him Literally takes a 9999999 damage hit And mettaton NEO has the highest HP on the game yet Also dies in a single hit Same with literally any other boss not getting their HP lowered on the murder run Sans has 1 HP end of the story
The fact that Sans has 1 hp in hidden game code statistics says absolutely nothing, it may just be a place holder, it may be such an amount for the cutscene of his death to work, or Toby just for fun gave him such an amount of hp because it doesn't play any role in game. Metaton NEO canonically has 9 defenses, but in this hidden statistic he has a negative defense so that the player can kill him in one hit, but this does not mean that he actually has a negative defense, it only means that the player has become too strong at this stage and for them 9 defense is nothing.
Yeah but considering the rest of the shown stats are 1 and that it says "weakest enemy in the game" he would have 1 HP and mettatons part was just because it's more story there is no battle just an attack
@@user-qb4ij9kr1l This is not a theory. You should not believe the statistics in the game code that no one should have seen and take it seriously as if it canon.
@@iosis9324 Ok, so, how about we take seriously the literaly infinite stats of asriel on a true pacifist route, I know you could say that he was holding back, but if he really wanted to take over the timeline he woudn't have.
The only things that are not canon that are hidden in the files are unused things and hidden ATK and DEF. HP is canon. The only time HP isn't canon is with characters like Flowey (6000 HP, Asgore has 3,500), Omega Flowey (9,950 HP, Mettaton has 9,999), and Asriel (9,999 HP, NEO has 30,000). The reason those aren't canon is simply because it's absurd. But Sans having 1 HP isn't absurd, especially since all his other stats are 1. There's also zero in-game evidence against him having 1 HP except stuff that's been disproven. Why is it hard to accept this btw
The vine that flowey made to capture them all right before he turned into Asriel has thorns on it surely sans had to be stung by atleast one of them dont you think that that would have dealt some sort of damage
Maybe, but do you really think that he have only 1 hp? In game files that he have max 1 hp, and in pacifist we can have only 20 hp. But did you know we could get 30 hp? We can sleep in inn and mtt to get extra 10 hp, and what sans doing when we running from undyne in hotland? Sleeping. Plus he could sleep any time before, we can say that he really likes to sleep by looking on his bedroom. It means that he atleast can have 11
@@shadowdokpaynt5236his sleep buff is much better than frisk's, he supposed to survive player attack, but frisk was full of bloodlust and hatred, so it did 999999 damage in the end of day.
@@gek4086No, but he’d literally die if he stubbed his toe. Get real, his HP was never meant to be seen and is probably made that way so you instantly one shot him no matter what attack you have without bypassing
@@missingnumberaxolotl-9079Consider the following. What is Sand Undertale known for doing? Sleeping. What does sleeping do? Increase your max HP by 10. Sans has AT LEAST 11 HP at all times.
The HP is consistent though. Defense is changed to script a one shot. This is seen with alot of monsters in genocide like Toriel, Papyrus, and Mettaton Neo (also Undyne to make you deal 1000+ dmg). The HP on the other hand, is never changed. There's no reason for Sans' HP and Defense to simultaneously be lowered for a one shot when this is never done in any other instance.
The stats in the game files mean nothing for Sans' HP, remember Mettaton NEO? Supposed to be one of the strongest enemies in canon lore, gets one shotted, the reason out of game lore? His defense is like -40K in the game files, the same Logic could apply to Sans, Mettaton NEO has this defense so that Toby is SURE we One Shot Mettaton NEO, it could be the same thing for Sans.
Nope. When a one shot is scripted in game the defense is changed to the negatives. Just like you mentioned with Mettaton Neo. This is also true for genocide Papyrus, Toriel, and literally every other one shot. HP is never changed to script a one shot and the hp in the files is accurate to every single other character.
That's possible but it's not like Toby is a particularly lazy game dev. It just doesn't make sense for him to change Sans' hp when he never changes the hp for any other character.
Contrary to popular belief, HP in the code and in the game are exactly the same. Undyne has really 1500hp for example. Also, litterally every "boss" (except Undyne the Undying) is scripted to die in one-hit in genocide, yet Sans is the only one of them who have 1hp in code.
@@sheogorath6834 Because you don't even fight Sans at all in any other route besides the no mercy one. Why would Toby give him any other HP stat when he just dodges every attack anyway?
So flowey's vines deal less damage to mosters than us because i'm pretty sure we only get to the decimals in the asriel fight that starts right after attacks a bunch of the main characters including sans
So if Sans were to stub his toe would he just die
why do i see you every where
probably
Nah he would dodge it
no stubbing a toe deals less than 1 hp plus he has mufflers to negate the damage
@@moltenboss1371nice
I always thought it to be way funnier to imagine that sans actually has as much hp as we do damage but still dies because we just hit like a truck at this point in the run
I just thought he had a normal amount for a monster lol
In truth, considering his nature, it's probably 69 hp lol
(Gaster's HP is a bunch of 6s, Papyrus has 680, if Sans has less than them it could be three 6s, but it seems more his style to be in two digits, so maybe 66, 67 to be in between the two, or 68? But knowing him, he wouldn't miss that free opportunity)
Gaster isn't Canon big dawg HE DOES NOT have a bunch of 6's as hp technically his name isn't gaster his sprite name is mystery man technically but everyone just calls his gaster because it gives him more character depth.
@@doobleylive2585in game files lists gaster hp. Tf you mean gaster isn’t canon
@@doobleylive2585
I don't even know where to start with you.
Gaster may not be Mysteryman, but considering a "Gaster follower" who talks about him and says he's holding a piece of him appears to hold something very similar to the head of the Mysteryman sprite, it's VERY likely that Gaster is the Mysteryman sprite.
As for his HP and connection to Sans? *YES HE LITERALLY DOES*
Obviously you never fight him but Gaster DOES have stats in the code. He gives negative EXP and money when beating him
*And the skulls Sans uses to shoot lasers are called GASTER BLASTERS in the code*
Gaster is canon AND canonically has SOME connection to Sans
If Gaster WERE to have some relation to Sans, for example, being Sans' father which is unconfirmed but lightly implied, it would make sense that said magic would be inherited from said potential father.
I think its true. The files state that Mettaton Neo has -9000 defense, which is _definitely_ not canon
Gaster chilling at the bottom with 666666 hp: 😔
Tell dende i said hi
Do you mean? -666666?
@@murilokiller7705Nah thats his gold and xp reward
Who's "So Sorry"?
He's between Glyde and Doodlebog.
@@Thisguy0187"So Sorry" is someone's OC who ended up making it into the game (dont remember how) and has an entire secret boss battle on a specific day, if you want any more info on that I'd recommended searching it up. Hope I helped!
In the Inn at Snowdin, the clerk tells you that sleeping can bring you over your max hp, and Sans sleeps a lot. So he probably has more than one HP.
genius
Bros trying so hard to hang on
A-
...wait one damn second-
But it says his MAX HP is 1 so it can't go over 1
@@Tailso_Johnsenn2 "sleeping can bring you OVER your MAX hp"
But with all the sleeping he does, sans probably has a lot of extra HP.
I completely forgot aboit that mechanic
You cant pass the 10 barrier
So he might have 10 extra hidden hp
It only works in Snowdin inn and in the MTT resort, and Sans doesn't even sleep that much anyways.
It literally says his *MAX* hp is 1
@@sheogorath6834 isnt there a bed in the true lab?? Or does ur hp not regenerade there
Sans having just one HP is badass. He's the essence of pacifism (and laziness lol) so of course he doesn't train physically or by acquiring execution points. And yet he's still strong. That's awesome!
If anyone is butthurt and thinks that we're calling Sans weak by headcanoning him as 1 HP, I think you're misunderstanding what's so funny and epic about him being simultaneously the easiest and hardest enemy.
He isnt that stupid to have only 1 total HP, if he did, he would die from any regular incident in Underground. He gains his HP from sleep buff, which makes him have more HP than Asgore.
@@ctaplliekjiacchuk6478 I like the idea of sleep giving him enough HP to not be in literal mortal peril from the slightest of injuries! But I think that Sans having low max HP wouldn't make him stupid. It'd imply he's smart enough to avoid dying (as shown when he's clever enough to dodge in genocide)
@@poky4669tbh I think anyone could dodge if they tried hard enough. What so hard about moving a few inches away from an attack?
@@ctaplliekjiacchuk6478head canon be like:
@@fictey Yet no one else does. Sans is the only one who thinks to do it. He doesn't need more HP than Asgore or Undyne or Papyrus or even Froggit to be strong. He survives using his savvy.
He spent all his points on dodging
JESUS CHRIST 1K LIKES?!?!
No, he spent all his points on infinite joke books and physics books
@@sandtheundermanI think you mean you spent it
He spent most of it on mobility and intelligence and thats it
Nah he spent it on being able to defy game mechanics, das why he can dodge, attack from the battle screen, and keep his turn going forever.
And it works better than having hp defense or attack
Also you could say he invested in skill since he has the most difficult to avoid attacks and has the retribution hp burn ability
Or maybe that all comes with psychic power and he just invested in that instead
Honestly I feel like the 1HP thing is just because Toby had no reason to specify any health to Sans due to how the battle works in gameplay, he just dies in one hit because of Frisk’s LOVE or the real knife or whatever
Nah,lil bro is simply way too good at dodging,i'm not sure why ya refuse to believe he actually DID no-hit you 💀🗣️🔥🔥🔥
No
And detirmination
Me who killed sans with a stick:
Why then mettaton neo doesn't have 1 hp?
Nobody gets it... Why do you think he doesn't fight until Genocide? It's not just that he can't be bothered, it's that according to his stats he'd be killed in an instant, but the thing is... He's also labeled as the easiest enemy in his check screen. Clearly they're referring to his stats and not his fighting ability, so his health being locked at 1 makes perfect sense even for as much as people want to deny it. The truth is, realistically Sans is a glass canon, and you can look at fan works and his different AUs and such and see differently, but og canon Sans has 1 HP, it's truly the only thing that makes sense given all the evidence.
Except fucking not, because Flowey's vines in Pacifist don't kill him. Besides, Mettaton NEO's CHECK stats are an outright lie, so why is Sans' suddenly not when it's entirely the same purpose as -99999 DEF?
The canon HP is unconfirmed. Simple as that.
@@bababooey5402 me when I lie.
@@bababooey5402 the vine was green lol. you could literally just say its a green attack, which heals.
@@MrKubeRoblox ... You're not fucking serious right now, are you?
IT USED THE FUCKING PHOTOSHOP FLOWEY VINES (tinted slightly blue for some reason) FOR THE SPRITE!!! OF FUCKING COURSE IT'S GREEN, THE IMAGE ITSELF IS! DOES THAT SUDDENLY MAKE IT HEAL? NO, OF COURSE IT DOESN'T; THOSE SAME VINES FUCKING HURT YOU IN HIS FIGHT IN NEUTRAL!!!
@@crazygamingoscar7325 The fuck are you talking about.
Toby has outright states Game Files aren't canon. But at the same time Sanses entire gag is that everything is 1
It just feels impossible for him to be weaker than a wimsum tho
@@michaelwrightracugno5216
Cause people literally made that up.
@@michaelwrightracugno5216 All of his stats are a joke on purpose, why would sense come into it?
@@michaelwrightracugno5216 not really. He's the "weakest enemy" after all
Game files are kinda cannon, but HP of creatures arent just everytime 100% full. It can go 0% or even negative, or go straight to 9999%...
I don't think that mettaton NEO's defence is actually -whatever big number it was on the game files
It s -28800 or something
-40k o believe.
oh my god. Please.
HP is always accurate. Defence is not.
This is shown IN THE METTATON NEO FIGHT.
BECAUSE TOBY GAVE HIM 30000 HP?
What is that fake too?
@@crazygamingoscar7325 shall we talk about how much exp sans gives....0....how much exp is needed to level up from 19-20...50k.... he gives 50k exp....he has to have more HP then 1
@@errornekochara Why... would the health and exp be correlated?
I'm pretty sure they're not previously correlated.
For example: Temmie grants 50 exp with 5 hp and -20 df.
Pyrope meanwhile has 110 Hp and gives only 80 exp.
Theres no correlation between HP and exp.
Its about how violent you need to be.
The one hp is so Toby fox can kill him after the cutscene.
he hasn’t done this with any other characters except sans
@@Imadog4834-qr9icMettaton NEO has negative DEF in the files and tons of hp so when you hit him, it deals an ungodly amount of damage to show how strong you've gotten.
@@madnesgamin yeah I’m saying 1 def 1 atk and 1 hp are natural stats for sans
@@Imadog4834-qr9ic I'm just saying that Toby has played with the stats for some occassions, not just Sans.
@@madnesgamin yes but he never messed with monsters HP only their def
I think Sans' max HP is 1, but considering you can restore health above your max HP in the game, he might have more than his max considering he sleeps A LOT.
hold on, hes got a point
Yeah the Fact is you can grow your mã HP just by “SLEEP” =))
He not only sleeps a lot he also uses items a lot. He drinks Ketchup, which the player is never able to do. Drinking Ketchup could overheal sans by a lot
@@ryanthecringeanimator9541 No item can heal you above your max HP. Although not available to the player, Ketchup isn't anything special.
@@JustmeKarma Well he can't grow his max, but he can gain more HP past his max without affecting it. Like he could still have 120 HP while still having a 1 HP max.
1. He has 1 hp in code
2. With 1 def he gets one shotted anyways
pretty sure a normal hit wouldn't instant kill if he had papyrus level HP since only off-guard hits do insane damage
@@oli3374 mettaton neo had negative def and got one shotted
Sans is the third closest to that
Second being snowdrake without his hat
@@gamercentral2417Monster Kid with 0 def: 😟
@@jacobblakely2224 ni-
@@gamercentral2417 negative defense means you take more damage... do you have trisomy 21 by chance?
One shot? Good luck landing that hit.
I am a firm believer that sans could've dodged way more in that fight if he didn't decide to fake-sleep just to do a little bit.
if frisk attacked horizontally sans would’ve been done bro
Probably @@bruh-it1or
So basically,
"Does sans canonicly have 1 hp?" Probably not.
"Does sans have 1 hp in terms of the game code?"
Ye.
What else could you base his HP off of 💀plus theres characters like Gaster having a stat in the code but not ingame anyways, so I think that unless stated otherwise the stats in the code are canon.
@@vibinseal6416 Yes, that does make sense. But sans does get hit by flowey's vine in true pacifist. That must of done some sort of damage right?
@@SupremeBlade101 it didn’t show the damage counter for any of the monsters, so I doubt it. And its not like theres any physical injuries that you can see on the monsters anyway
@@vibinseal6416 The damage counter isn't aways needs to be present for a monster to be taking damage. For example killing Sans, Asgore and Flowey in geno, Undyne jumping of the bridge to save monster kid and the amalgamates (mainly snowdrops mom) just to name a few.
@@SupremeBlade101 Sans has a damage counter in genocide, and for Asgore I don’t think the damage counter shows because of how Flowey is a monster or has no confirmed base stats. Same reason why he doesn’t have a damage counter in Genocide, he’s soulless and not a ghost. Its like attacking a wall and expecting a damage counter to appear. Thats why he doesn’t have a set hp for when he ‘dusts away’, because he cant. Also just saying, the Undyne one isn’t relevant as it wasn’t during a battle.
I hate the fact where a frog can one shot a skeleton that has the power to control bones, summon blasters, teleport and changing gravity.
A frog can kill him with a lick
YET A FLOWER THAT HAS THE POWER OF SIX HUMAN MOTHAFREAKIN SOULS CAN'T KILL IT WITH A GIGANTIC DAMN VINE.....
Physics :]
And dodges
_he's a joke, it's his thing_
You're also ignoring the fact that frog would have to be either time-space-rendingly FAST to hit him in the first place, or clever enough to catch him off guard. Sans' physical body's frailty doesn't somehow make him less of a force to be reckoned with - he didn't survive this long on dumb luck
The fact that on sans it says “the easiest enemy”
technically ice is easier but on geno you wouldn't be acting so he would still be the easiest
Literally a joke by Toby to troll you.
@@idk-cj8mnit’s a half joke. You remove all of sans karma and ability to bypass s… boom. The easiest enemy.
I also heard about people saying that because you deal 9,999,999 damage to him, he has 9,999,999 HP.
Lol, who would think that bro
people think that because off-guard one-shot hits do the exact amount of hp the monster has (plus one), and sans takes 999 million damage when hit off-guard
@@destdehatHe wasnt off guard. He died in one hit because of bloodlust and hatred of frisk.
@@destdehat Except that it's not true at all? Toriel take something like 40k damage in geno, when she only have 480hp or something.
@@sheogorath6834 i'm not saying it's true, people just think that because it happens to normal monsters
@@ctaplliekjiacchuk6478he sure was cuz he didn't expect a second hit in 1 turn
The thing is game file stats aren't always exactly true, like how NEO in the game files has like negative 4 hundred thousand defense or something, while if you check it is a perfectly normal number
Sans could have just had 1 hp for reasons of him not surviving a hit, but its hard to know for sure
@@Dragonfire-ir5lnif it was for that reason he what have negative hp like mettaton.
Contrary to popular belief, hp in the code and hp in the game are exactly the same.
Undyne really has 1500hp for example.
Also there something and that mettaton neo has so much negative defense to make sure he die in one hit its because of his massive hp that he need so much negative df to be sure he die in one hit from everything because if he didn't had negative defense the fight would be long so it cant be use for the argument that stats in the code cant be used
@@sheogorath6834
But... you never can see how much hp they have via Check
Wdym
Head canon:
Sans has brittle bone disease
Squishy bones
I'm on the not 1HP side but I don't believe that Flowey's vines are an attack. He clearly intended to use it purely to capture and not to kill so it probably didn't do any damage.
The reason why he was shocked when we finally land hit on him is because we hit THAT hard, that we depleted all of his bonus HP from sleeping
@@ctaplliekjiacchuk6478 It's because he didn't expect the attack to attack a 2nd time in one turn.
Flowey’s vines are an attack, he uses it during the Omega Flowey fight and not only before it.
True
@@ctaplliekjiacchuk6478 Dumb theory lol
There is a theory that because he sleeps all day his health is ABOVE the default health. So he could have more than one hp but have a default of one hp.
I like this theory
This only works in the snowdin inn and in the MTT resort and Sans doesn't even sleep that much anyways.
@@sheogorath6834proof he doesn’t sleep much?
@@Sandstheskeleton Where your proof that he sleep that much to begin with?
@@sheogorath6834Undyne dialogue, she talks about Sans, I don't remember but she says something about sans ALWAYS sleeping ON THE JOB.
The only reason people thinks he has more health because... uh... yeah idk they just do
Because they think he's cool. And because people make mods that are completely centered about him and him only. People always treat him as the strongest character despite the only thing great about him is the Gaster Blasters and his dodging mechanic, whilst other characters have obviously more and interesting gimmicks like Mettaton's ratings, Mettaton's essay question, Asgore destroying the Mercy button, Asriel's blaster attack, Asriel's Thunder attacks, Asriel's Star attacks and more
Most people I see here think it's because Flowey's vines didn't damage him in the pacifist route or because sleeping gives you more HP.
@@Hanzlolz-yy9ctI mean ngl mettaton has the best gimmick being the essay questions, ratings, and yellow soul. But other characters rlly don’t have many interesting gimmicks like sans does. Asgore is just a fight where you can’t spare him until the end. Asriels got cool attack patternss but that’s pretty much it. I mean after all,sans throws
Your soul around like a tennis ball, teleports you into attacks, can INFINITELY extend his turn, and overall has the most advanced attack patterns in the game. The only thing I can see coming close is omega flowey with his save/load, unique design, soul mechanics, etc.
@@fictey I forgot to mention about Undyne can endure DETERMINATION in Genocide Route which gives us Undyne the Undying. There are also characters that have their own gimmicks like Woshua's wash (?) mechanic, etc. Also, ease up on Asgore. He literally broke up with his wife and lost his children
@@Hanzlolz-yy9ct undynes geno fight is the most BADASS in the game Frfr. Also I’m not trying to downplay asgore I’m just saying he did not have crazy gimmicks like most characters. THE SHOCK YOU GET WHEN YOU SEE HIM BREAK THE BUTTON FOR THE FIRST TIME IS CRAZY
1HP
999 agility
Wasn't it revealed to be 10 somewhere?
Probably cause of sleeping rasies hp by 10 or something along those lines
Then it would be 11
im just confused why it even mattered for that playing as sans video anyway considering that the point was to make it so you were one shot
so like in theory you could have had normal health but just have negative defense no matter the lv but that makes it way harder for the player to remember, plus there's an easier chance something could go wrong
also, why does this debate even matter in the first place for... any reason? im genuinely asking because for lore it doesn't matter since genocide is the ONE TIME you fight him and he goes down in one hit, and every other time you fight him is in fanon so people could make him have 1 hp if they wanted, which again, makes it not matter really
and usually, those sans fights are ALSO in genocide which would make sense for you to oneshot him most times anyway, except in situations like dusttale, where he distances himself as well in order to grow stronger, which then makes the creator boost his health, defense, and damage which makes the canon numbers legitimately not matter
we can't rely on code, and the game certainly never tells us nor can we figure it out any other way unless toby just decides to end the debate by saying "hey guys sans hp max value is actually _____" so im kinda confused why people are up in arms about this whole debate anyways
Underrated comment.
I would be surprised if He managed to stand and talk after He got 9999 damage if He only had 1 HP, And I mean He Papyrus older brother so It won't make sense for Papyrus to have more HP than Him
Why not? Papyrus keeps training constantly and Sans just stands by
papyrus legitimately also kept standing and talked after being hit, just as a head instead of his whole body (but that’s an entirely different debate)
Sans's death is a bit strange compared to other monsters anyways we never see him turn to dust on screen and he seems to have blood on him which the fandom headcanon is that its ketchup we just don't know sans is a mystery
@@Bengt2509Yeah Papyrus doesn't even know how to sleep while Sans takes naps
He carries a Ketchup Bottle with him in the Jacket @@primordiatree1014
Glyde: defense- very high, also his defense- -20
Maybe it's because Sans has a DODGE ability, unlike other characters that stand still and take the hit. He only got hit since the heart was on the FIGHT button, and pressing Z moves the next set of dialogue. Preventing him from dodging at that moment.
I used to believe he had 20 HP.
Well, it's on the code so, can't argue with that
You very much can.
Game files aren't canon.
yes they are??? they give you actual stats of everything. @@idk-cj8mn
@@idk-cj8mngame files are infact canon but okay man
@@idk-cj8mnThat's not necessarily true.
@@yxngmatt6047 sometimes it's not canon
Mettaton Neo have 9 Defense
But I'm the files it's NEGATIVE
To everyone saying that it's to script a one shot kill, that's not it. Whenever a one shot is scripted to happen like with Mettaton Neo, the defense is changed to be negative. HP is always consistent.
That's weird, my memory may be jolted but I thought that I saw somewhere that bosses line Toriel or Papyrus in the genocide run only had 1 HP
@@valora9416 They don't. They just have negative defense.
Toby fox has said that the script isn't canon so it doesn't matter. With 1 defense, he will get one shotted nonetheless
*Whimsum uses butterfly circle*
Sans: mf I'm not dodging Allat 😭😭😭
the weakest enemy...
To be fair, whilst it is possible (and maybe likely considering his stats) those coded stats are NOT canon, I mean look at NEO's [high] defense lol!
The def isnt consistent in files, it changes
But what doesnt change is the HP
Contrary to popular belief, hp in the code and hp in the game are exactly the same.
Undyne really has 1500hp for example.
@@sheogorath6834 never looked in the games files myself, so wouldn't know. But tbf there are many situations in game where sans should have died, like seriously if he steps on a spiky twig he should really die, but he doesnt so idk. And just because health is consistent it doesn't necessarliy mean sans' would be the same?
I'm not trying to be like people saying he definitely doesnt have 1 hp, I do consider both sides, and it' doesn't make a whole lot of sense
@@jammydodgersvideotin2245 "But tbf there are many situations in game where sans should have died" Like when...?
"like seriously if he steps on a spiky twig he should really die" We don't know how many damage this would deal (if this even deal damage) so idk what you're trying to prove.
"And just because health is consistent it doesn't necessarliy mean sans' would be the same?" Like you said, health is consistent with everyone else. So tell me, why would that be any different with Sans for no reasons...?
Sam’s is the equivalent of a glass cannon.
Very powerful but if somebody as so much touches him, he crumples on the floor dead
Sans:heh il just tp away
Dustale:cant kill me if i kill them first
Outertale:il just fly awayyy
Dancetale:il dance away
The whole “Code says this” isnt by any stretch of the word an end all be all, as most main characters (most notably mettaton neo) have incorrect stats for the check compared to the actual stats used, plus sans having 1 hp would mean he’d die from a paper cut or stubbing his toe, i find it pretty unlikely.
minor note, a friend of mine once posed the theory sans has 11 HP, keeping with the “1” theme of his stats while not making him more frail than a geriatric grandma, to the point he’d die of stubbing his toe
Monsters never have been shown to lose HP outside of battle. And sans has 1 def stubbing his toe is gonna leave him at 1 hp even if he doesn’t have exactly 1
Well, sleeping does put your hp above max, so your friend may be somewhat right
@@googlecore510 that’s only for humans
paper cuts or stubbing toe isn't something a SKELETON can experience much less normal monsters since those would more than likely not even do 1 dmg
@@gamercentral2417 there’s nothing that says it just for humans, I’m pretty sure the inn keeper mentions it, so if she knows about it then it most likely would happen to monsters too
Wait what is the SECOND weakest enemy?
Sans. Jerry is Weaker than Sans.
@@ryanthecringeanimator9541and Jerry is stronger than ice cube
@@user-1-2946jeff except you can actually die on Ice Cube. You can't die on Jerry.
@@user-1-2946jeff
Ice Cube has an attack when it comes to multi-monster encounters, Jerry, ln the other hands, doesn’t have any attack no matter what.
Sure, maybe Jerry is better in defense (obviously.) but not in attacks.
What about monster kid?
its one hp cause you never hit him in normal and toby made a way to be shoted in one hit
it means if he hadnt a fight with dodging, his hp could be more than 1
This makes sense, until you realize Gaster also has stats in the code.
666,666 HP
666,666 Atk
666,666 Def
Drops -666,666 exp and -666,666 gold
@@jacobblakely2224gaster is a different case
@@ius_0 Not really
Both have stats we only figure out in the files.
@@jacobblakely2224 gaster isnt.. normal
@@ius_0 Neither is Sans
I once had a theory, that says that Sans actually in the canon, he should have 11HP, this is because when Frisk Sleeps at the snowdin hotel, they do have 10HP more than his Maximum HP, so, Nothing Stops Sans From Having 11/01 HP, since he is a slacker and loves to sleep
imagine killing sans with stick and he just pulls out last breath beacuse of low damage
Impossible you hit too hard by then
huh, wonder why so many people care about how much hp i have
how was the fall
@@ernestitorant_yt not so bad, actually, i mean i don't even know if i can feel pai- .....wait, you want me to ask you something about balls.... don't you.
yeah seriously why do they need to know our hp
@@HUGEUndertalefan BAD TOM
Omg it's Sans
Hear me out..
So if you sleep that reganorates your helth right?
And sans sleeps a lot..
Well, it does regenerate your HP if I remember correctly, but all I remember from the last time I played, is that is boosts you past you max hp
@@Daylonplayz12 Sans over here with like 999999 health lol
I can believe this
@@MDAnthony434lol
olnly up to +10 HP tho
Also, even if it is a 1, sleeping gives you HP above your max, and what does our good friend do nearly all day every day?
Ooooo I never thought of that
Beat me to it
10 above max.
So does Sans have -9 HP?
wouldn't that only happen if you sleep in an inn
It only works in the snowdin inn and in the MTT resort.
Also Sans doesn't even sleep that much anyways.
I mean, it might not be canon. Lots of the geno fights have their stats altered to make them 1-shot, but have different actual stats. Because sans has no pacifist/neutral fight, we wouldn’t technically be able to know for sure.
You do have to consider, Mettaton NEO has a very large amount of HP, which can be considered canon, and it was made like that to show that he is very powerful health wise.
The only thing for that fight is he has negative defense.
scripted 1 shots never alter hp. Only defense. He isn’t called the easiest enemy for no reason.
I was scared for a moment he didn't-
Love your content, Mystic!!!! :)
Game files aren't canon.
Asriel has infinite attack, but only 8 atk in the game files. I guess Glyde is stronger than the God of hyperdeath now.
The stats shown when you check an enemy are almost always different than the game files stats.
Another example could be Mettaton Neo, Undyne, Undyne the Undying, Papyrus, and the list goes on and on.
The game files have never been canon, the only canon stats are the ones you can see by playing the game.
Sans' hp will remain unknown, doesn't matter how much yall debate about it.
what about the gaster stats in the files? everyone takes those as cannon
Bro asriel holds back in fight
@@Blockrooms
Gaster doesn't exist, he has been erased from existence, he's not present in the game.
How can something that doesn't exist have more hp, atk and df than a God like Asriel?
(Gaster according to game files: 666666 hp, 66666 atk, 66666 df.
Asriel according to game files: 9999 hp, 8 atk, 9999 df.)
Yeah, Gaster is just an easter egg in Undertale. Gaster isn't canonically stronger than Asriel so he can't canonically have those stats.
@@Blockrooms that's because you can never actually fight gaster so the game files are the only place they exist, I mean we can definitely use those as a clue for Gaster, but that doesn't mean that Mettaton NEO canonically has -40,000 defense
@@tezeklahmacun
What would that have to do with anything?
People keep saying "no you're just really strong at the end of Geno" ...so you guys completely ignored what LV and EXP mean, huh? You're not stronger at all. You don't hurt the monsters more because you've buffed up, you hurt them more, and get hurt by them less, because monsters are harmed more by murderous intent than actual strength, and because you've emotionally distanced yourself so much that their "attacks" (which are magic, and therefore likely equally affected by emotions) don't hurt as much; do people read what the game says??
... You realize you aren't changing anything about the argument at hand, right? You're arguing unrelated semantics. From the player/human's perspective, we're getting stronger. Even Noelle in Deltarune says she's getting stronger, which technically isn't true.
Who cares? Who _really_ cares?
Not really
You're missing the part where your soul gets stronger, as stated by Flowey at the beginning of the game
So you technically DO get stronger, but not by much
It doesn't give you more DT, it just strengthens what you already have by making you numb in emotions and straightforward in actions
This invalidates Dusttale, which is why fangirls don't accept it
So you're stronger...
@@narrativeless404 that may be true but it's a widely beloved fan work not because it needed to fit neatly into canon, but rather because it's an interesting concept that the community has executed well in enough instances to make enjoyable fan works. Obviously canon is much better because it sticks with his character better since he actually cares but that's only because the community ruined the concept very early on by misunderstanding it. If you couldn't tell, even despite its inherent lack of canonicity it's one of my favorite AUs simply because it shows the depths of Sans' resolve, willing to do something that he doesn't want to and actively regrets simply to try and prevent them from being endlessly murdered because he's the only one who can, he's the only one powerful enough and he's the only one who knows. I don't care if it doesn't fit neatly into canon, it'll still be one of my favorite AUs either way.
They dont
Nah coded stats arent canon he has 1 hp because from a gameplay perspective thats all he needs, theres no point in game where he would ever need to survive an attack (such as a neutral route fight) he only needs the 1 hp because iif it was set to 0 he would die before the battle starts
Like in metatons case which he has negative defence and even most fragile thing cant have negative defence
@@tamamtamam8646snowdrake without the cap:
But the method toby uses to make on shots is lowering the DEFENCE not HP
Litterally every "boss" are scripted to die in one hit in geno (except Undyne the Undying), yet Sans is the only one who have 1hp.
It that was only because of that, Toby would have just gived him negative defense like everyone else.
@sheogorath6834 yes but sans is ONLY fought in geno the other bosses can be fought outside of geno and other than mettaton neo all the other bosses can survive multiple hit in neutral
Everyone in the comments trying so hard to say that sans doesn't have 1hp.
It's weird to say the files aren't canon in a game made by the same creator who HID DIALOGUE in the game files. Besides, even if they aren't canon, that doesn't mean they're not right. It's more of a stretch to say he doesn't have 1hp with no evidence than it is to say he does have 1 hp with his actual stats displayed for everyone to see in the game files.
And because I see everyone mentioning it
*Flowey doesn't damage the monsters with his vines. He intends on stealing their souls and wouldn't want to shatter them. You also don't see any damage numbers when he grabs them.
Also we only see Frisk gain 10 hp after sleeping, that doesn't necessarily mean it applies to monsters too. Besides, you can only get it to go 10 hp above the maximum if I remember correctly so even if it did work, that would mean Sans still only has 11 hp. (Also, you can sleep at multiple points in the game like in Toriel's house and the True Lab, but only when you sleep at the Inn do you get the boost. So it's not just simply sleeping that applies this boost.)
Yeah flowey definitely held back to not risk a single soul since he needs them to gain the power equivalent to 7 human souls (every monster soul=1 human soul)
I also want to point out Mettaton's defense in the files. NEO is set to -4000 I believe, which is intentional. NEO is unfinished when you fight him in the geno route, which is why despite him supposedly having higher defense than everyone else we've fought he goes down in one hit. And no, it's not for programming reasons as you one shot every boss monster no matter what as they are most likely event triggers. Which is why the damage numbers that pop up don't change at all, no matter your stats. (And no, that doesn't mean it's they're actual max HP as you can fight them in pacifist and see that their HP is much lower than the damage you deal in geno).
You can also get a boost of hp in the Hotel
@@Hanzlolz-yy9ct oh that's right. I forgot you could sleep there tbh.
That, honestly just raised a lot of questions I didn't have before.
@@Bengt2509 Not "every monster SOUL". It's "thousands of monster SOULs", so 2000 monster SOULs would equal to two human SOULs.
Are people really that stupid? I have seen tons of people denying this by saying 2 things, first: Mettaton Neo being one shoy by anything, NO. he has -20000 DEFENSE, not HP. And even then, it has a semi-canonical reason (Spamton Neo demonstrates he can change his DEFENSE stat, so it could be that Mettaton fought us with everything put in the ATTACK stat, neglecting everything else.) And some people are saying that the files do not count..... BRUH, thats literally the only thing that counts, but i guesd that for some reason Gaster's stats are void like him now, oh, and all of the secrets Toby Fox put in the files are also invalid then.
Actually spamton neo is toby making fun of mettaton neo by saying “Don’t you know NEO is famous for its high defense” but the point still works
Maybe because Toby stated that check stats are canon and mechanical stats aren't?
@@groswalker1636 so again, Gaster is fake, his stats are fake and everything else inside the game's files is not canon.... Yeah no, he did not say that, and Check stats are not so reliable, if Toby said something like that he might have contradicted himself right there (hell, if he even said it and not that someone just wanted to make that canon by using the "the creator said so" argument)
@@Bengt2509 Snowgrave route Spamton Neo changes his defense stat, so even if its a joke (which i think maybe, but it is also a clear reference to Mettaton Neo so that players link the two and maybe understand that most powers might be the same) it really much works yeah.
So we're absolutely sure the game files are canon?
Just because its coded that way does not make it canon. Like how mettaton neo does not really have -40000 defence
Mettaton NEO is coded like that so there's no way it can't be insta-killed, you will always kill him in one hit.
and in the battle it shows you the canon stats.
however, sans's ATK and DEF in the game files is the same to sans's ATK and DEF in game, so it can also mean sans's HP is 1, because the stats in game and in the game files are the same.
Mettaton NEO has 30,000 HP in the code tho.
@Octopus2480 He also has -30,000 Def. What's your point?
@@Octopus2480 HP means nothing when your defence is worse than toilet paper
@@sptflcrw8583 That Toby Fox didn't set the HP to that exact number accidentally.
Not disagreeing with you, but using in game stats doesnt mean much, unless you're also willing to argue Asriel only has 8 Attack and that Glyde is stronger than him
I am willing to argue that bc asriel could one shot you if they wanted but they are purposely holding back to make their attack stat 8.
@@banana_Asriel asriel isn't holding back at all, lol. It's for game balance purpose
@@sptflcrw8583 correct me if I'm wrong doesn't he say himself he is holding back
@banana_Asriel in Phase 1. In Phase 2 he says the exact opposite, yet he still only has 8 ATK
Contrary to popular belief, hp in the code and in the game are exactly the same.
Undyne really has 1500hp for example.
If sans had 1 hp he would probably be dead
I mean, a fake punch did 1 damage to undyne...
But sans is fricking smart. I mean yeah sure dodgeing isn’t that impressive… but being able to teleport and have vast knowledge of quantum physics? I think sans could easily avoid injuries.
Sans: why do u need hp when u can dodge?
Insert the " Stats aren't the only thing I get thank you" dialogue in the TS! Underswap Sans fight
The game files do say that Sans has 1 HP, but they also say that Mettaton NEO has negative DF. (He actually has decent DF, but in the files he has a negative amount to show how OP Frisk is by now.)
Yeah, MT Neo has negative defense to guarantee a one shot. So does Toriel, and so does Papyrus. You know what they don't have? Lower than usual hp. HP is always consistent between actual fights and the files. HP is never changed to script a one shot. Only defense is. Why would Sans be the only monster to have both his HP and Defense changed for a one shot?
Contrary to popular belief, hp in the code and hp in the game are exactly the same.
Undyne really has 1500hp for example.
Also Mettaton NEO doesn't have "decent" defense, he only have 9, which is lower than Napstablook.
@@kozolith2121 You know how Toby Fox is
He has 1hp in the files because you only fight him in the genocide route where you’re powered up by Chara
Nah you are just too strong chara comes in the end
There is no power up of Chara
For that point every monster could die for one hit ( specially with the royal knife ) plus in the geno descriptions changes, so i belive that he had more hp , but for that point we belive that he had 1hp cuz he keps dogging, also it could be sans itself playing with our mind to make his batle even worse
This is why the overworld targets sans
you see, he doesnt show his hp in game because he is too lasy to do so
Someone needs to give him a gold bottle cap so he can hyper train
It doesn't matter and unless we see him fight in DR we will never know.
That doesn’t mean anything. That’s like saying neo is incredibly weak when it really isn’t and you’re just really strong at that point. Canonically it has high defense, but in the code it does not.
NEO doesn't have stupidly low amount of HP in files tho, lol
It's only stats that are weird
Sans is labelled as "the easiest enemy". Sans has 1 ATK 1 DEF but NEO has much more.
@@narrativeless404
What kind of logic is this?
Sans only has stupidly low hp in the game files so you can one-shot him.
Same purpose, just done differently.
@@idk-cj8mn Nope
MTT NEO has 30k HP, and Sans has 1
MMT NEO gets varying amount of damage
Sans always gets the same ridiculous number, because it's scripted (and his file stats aren't even used by code)
Sans is described by Chara as "The weakest enemy", and every check description has been more or less accurate
Just accept your defeat already, *fangirl*
It just the code, if he even really has 1 HP, he wouldn’t survive Flowey’s vine in pacifist route. If the code says 1 HP, it doesn’t mean it his canon HP
There’s stalling attacks that don’t damage entities.
He sleeps to add bonus HP to his basic HP, so imagine sleep math: frisk slept at snowdin hotel only 2 minutes at 1LV with 20HP = +10HP, now counting... he slept 8 hours... if he had 20 HP like frisk, he could've got 240HP, but he got only 1HP, so that means he will gain ×20 bigger HP = 4800HP
4800 HP every night, and after week he is f***ing immortal to other enemies BUT not to Frisk&Chara.
Flowey’s vine capture isn’t an attack. If it was, sans would’ve dodged or teleported.
And how could a 1hp monster give 49999
the stats in the game files are likely not canon, since the in-game check stats are different from the actual stats.
however, sans is the only enemy to not have a health bar in the menu or after attacking…
"Dont get enemy know anything about you"
Why are all the comments newest
Sleeping buff levels:
Level 4 Frisk 1 LV: 20 max HP = +10HP(2 minutes), +240HP(8 hours)
Level 80 Sans 0(or 1) LV: 1 max HP = +200HP(2 minutes) +4800HP(8 hours)
Level 1 Asgore ?LV: 10000 max HP = +0.02HP(2 minutes) +0.48HP(8 hours)
If Sans only has 1 HP, How Did he survive floweys vines?
They only stun
They just did less than one damage point
Because Sans actually DONT have only 1 HP.
@@HaarisGamesThen where is the miss message
@@banana_AsrielWhere is the 0 numbers of damage
Fair enough, but the thing is, that the actual stats in the game' code don't always accurately reflect the character's capabilities and limits in universe like Undyne the undying receives damage going into the thousands in her fight to convey how powerful you are when normally the player does a few hundred at most against normal enemies and Mettaton NEO's defence is -40,000 if I remember right but that is done to ensure that Frisk will one shot him to show how powerful the geno route makes you become rather than it being canon that a slight gust of wind could severely injure him. The same could apply to Sans since the player is supposed to one-shot him as you can only fight him when you are on the peak of maxing out your LV in the geno route.
ok but why would it lie about sans’ hp if he’s gonna die in one shot anyways
The game can control a character's defense internally (separate from the actual stats) this is especially noticeable when muffet gets massively damaged compared to neutral/pacifist, same for toriel, etc, toby could have just as well given mettaton 99 defense and manually control your damage output
Also, sans is even more of an anomaly, as the hit you deal to him isn't even actually any sort of damage for the code's purposes, it's all treated as a cutscene (especially easy to know since it's scripted damage, pure 9s), reason why the kill counter doesn't increase despite his death (toby forgot to manually raise the count by 1 after the battle, regular death code doesn't play out)
He could have given sans 99999999 HP for all he cared, since it'd behave the same exact way it did
His 1 HP simply means he has 1 HP
In fact, Toby stated what game code stats are not canon.. And u literally can prove it urself by checking mtt neo def! Cuz in code its -500 and it's absolutely not canon
But it is how the game is coded
@@Fivernaf and? Still not canon
Uhm he has less defense, and also he has 40000 hp, that is canon to you I assume, why sans' hp is not canon then?
@@solovovho6306 cuz code is not always canon, canon mtt neo stats are much better than code one. EVEN FUCKING TOBY STATED THAT CODE IS NOT CANON
"Toby stated what game code stats are not canon." That's a nice argument, why don't you back it up with a source?
"And u literally can prove it urself by checking mtt neo def! Cuz in code its -500 and it's absolutely not canon" Contrary to popular belief, hp in the code and hp in the game are exactly the same.
Undyne really has 1500hp for example.
If that is true how did he survive the vine grip from flowey?
Dude, obviously 0.5 hp
@@cursiveshot If the grip was tight enough he would die but I guess I'll assume he survives on 0.5 hp because the grip is light
@@zar1w34i guess it was light bcuz flowery knew that sans's too lazy to struggle
@@anneraphaelleeenzo3254 Yeah bro was so lazy he fell asleep mid fight lel
Nobody said he necessarily took damage from it tbf.
Here's the big problem with this: Mettaton NEO has like 40,000 DEF _in-game,_ but is actually at like -99999 DEF in the files. Sans being 1 HP in the files means nothing, as that's very likely just how Toby made sure he'd die in one hit.
So no, his real HP is _NOT_ confirmed in the slightest.
You're wrong, mettaton has 9 DEF in-game and -40000 DEF in-files to comprehend his massive HP value (30000 HP). HP and DEF isn't the same thing.
@@tealover2871 I'm not even remotely saying the two are the same. I'm saying that if MTT's stats lie to you to make Geno work, why the fuck do you trust Sans's stats, of all people, to be 100% accurate?
@@bababooey5402 You've also said that he has "1 HP in the files". And information from the game files is quite reliable.
Also, Sans basically dies in a cutscene, so there's no reason to give him HP in a first place, for this value means nothing.
@@tealover2871 EXCEPT FUCKING NOT!!! What, is it suddenly now canon that every line of code that makes the game work is *physical,* _in-game_ *_assets?!_* Gimme a fucking break.
He has a lot of dodges
its dodges 💀💀
@@ItzCrimsonA why did it get dog and not dod am confused
@@themagmagamer6632 idk english spelling
its in the dictionary (i dont know if i spelt that right)
So what? He's dodging because we're so op
The fandom: sans has one hp!!!!
The flowey vines:
Flowey's vines didn't deal damage.
flowey vine didn't actually damaged anyone
Ain’t no way he called a canon fact fanon after applying a sans head canon 💀
For gods sake, *THE VINES WERE GREEN.*
Those either just WERE NOT ATTACKS and were REAL VINES or they were just Green Attacks, which *HEAL.*
I love how canon and fanon have gotten so mixed up that people are debunking canon by accident
bruh him having 1 hp isnt even canon, like. unironically. toby fox literally said that code is not canon
@@-E-s-o All of the Geno bosses (except Sans) have negative defense to make sure they die instantly (or for inflated DMG in the Undyne fight). But these bosses have in game stats you can check and look at in game, so those are obviously the stats that are meant to be taken as canon, while the code stats are understood to be the way they are to make sure the game works.
But Sans' numbers aren't handled this way. He doesn't have negative defense like all the other Geno bosses. No, his in game stats and code stats are completely in line with each other, which is completely different from all the other bosses. The fact that his stats are handled so much differently than everyone else's makes it feel much more deliberate.
Checking Sans tells us that he has 1 attack and 1 defense, and that he's the easiest enemy. Him having 1 HP falls in line with that perfectly. It's good story telling too. You'vs made it through the entire game, reached the highest LV you possibly could, you have equipment that gives you 99 attack and 99 defense and have a whooping 92 HP, and the only thing standing between you and beating the game is the absolute WEAKEST enemy possible, with flat ones across the board. It's good shit! And it might just be me, but it doesn't hit the same if his HP is 5 or 20 or 100 or whatever.
And honestly? Just saying "Toby said the code isn't canon" is a bizarre argument to me. I can't recall if he actually said that or not, but assuming he did, so what? Sure, it makes sense to dismiss Undyne the Undying and Mettaton Neo having negative defense values in the code, but that doesn't mean all of the code stats are inaccurate. The code says that Asgore has 3500 HP, so does that mean have a different amount of health? No, of course not. That would be silly. If the code said Sans has 2 HP, would that suddenly make 1 HP Sans viable? The argument that because the code isn't canon, and the code says Sans has 1 HP, then Sans absolutely cannot have 1 HP is very, very silly to me.
Yes, the code shouldn't be taken at face value when determining what is or isn't canon, the Geno bosses are proof of that. But when we have no way to gadge Sans' HP in game, and the only frame of reference is the code stats, which are completely in line with his other stats, and has perfect narrative cohesion, it just, makes sense.
Oh so people are in denial? 😅
BRO, WHAT'S UP WITH ALL THESE BOTS
Yo MysticSlime if this is the case there is one thing i would like you to explain: when you finally hit sans in the fight if he supposedly has 1 hp then why doesnt he immediately die or anything upon the 9999999999 damage attack and instead proceed to bleed out? If anything when he gets hit he should immediately die without any dust even to scatter either that overload of damage
Because Sans is from Deltarune
Because sans has.... blood? It could be the reason he doesnt instally dust away
Also remember, toriel gets dealt alot of dmg and doesnt instally die too
Because he's a boss. None of the boss dies instantly and most of them have a monologue before they dies.
That means nothing lore-wise, that's just a game thing.
@@sheogorath6834 yep but uh, maybe some more interesting and justified reason?
@@ctaplliekjiacchuk6478 There litterally nothing in-game that justify the boss not dying instantly. (Well, except maybe for Asgore and Toriel, since their souls are a bit stronger than others monsters)
But sleeping gives you extra HP
Originally i thought that the friend who introduced me to undertale almost a decade ago was making it up because he was tired
But now i finally have my conformation
Its been Stated by Toby that Game Files Are not Canon
Stats in the game files are actually different than the ones we see in game for some characters, so his 1 HP is made up by the Fandom
If he really did have 1 HP, Flowey's Vines would've killed him in the true pacifist route
Also if he did have 1hp a gust of wind or just tripping could kill him
Maybe Flowey's attack dealt less than a single point of damage? We know that's possible because Frisk also survives an attack with less than 1 HP remaining in true pacifist.
Also, it could be a "restraining" attack that doesn't deal damage. Or maybe it could be related to the fact that game elements are implied to be canon. In genocide, Gerson knows he's safe from any attacks and since the shopkeeper UI doesn't have an option to fight he's right to feel safe.
Bro stfu the game files literally make up the game so idk why ur saying they are not canon. If you didn’t know, a game needs files to run. Get better at fact checking. And for the flower thing, that is a scripted thing to do because it is a cutscene. And also, where is ur proof that Toby said that. Get better at fact checking.
Ershhhmenstatg aggshually the vines didn't deal any damage. And also, if you see any other monster, while their code def and atk ain't Canon, hp always is.
@@-YourName- Exactly
I personally believe Sans has 69 hp
Papyrus has 680 iirc and we all know Gaster has a bunch of 6s for HP
So Sans' HP could be 68, or 66 like his brother or dad but in two digits alone, or just 6 hp...
But knowing how much of a memelord he is?
*Sans probably canonically has 69 hp*
Fanon shit, that's what
Also it's Epic Sans that's a memelord, Classic is just your local lazy fried snow dealer that tells bad puns about bones, that's it
@@narrativeless404Sans has canonically done the Fortnite default dance.
@@supersillystuffsand don’t forget how his text sound is literally a Patrick the star line
Gaster is never confirmed to be anyone's dad.
@@Octopus2480
He speaks in a font in a single case and the mysteryman sprite which is nearly confirmed to be gaster thanks to the follower holding a head that looks VERY similar to a skeleton.
He is almost confirmed to be a Skeleton.
All the ghosts are in one family, all the goats are in one family, the snowdrakes are in one family, etc which means that the same species of monster are USUALLY of the same family
Therefore he could be their brother, grandpa, father, etc.
Either way it is HIGHLY implied that Gaster is related to them (Plus the Gaster blasters could be hereditary)
Get your semantics out of my face, Gaster is implied to be related to the brothers. Is that better?
We also know that the stats in the files are also full of lies sometimes, especially in genocide to make sure you can insta kill some monsters. So I personally believe that sans has a normal amount of hp, maybe around papyrus’, and it’s 1 in the files so you can insta-kill him
Yeah, Mettaton Neo literally have NEGATIVE stats
@@Nubert12 exactly
Has 1 so you can insta kill him
Literally takes a 9999999 damage hit
And mettaton NEO has the highest HP on the game yet Also dies in a single hit
Same with literally any other boss not getting their HP lowered on the murder run
Sans has 1 HP end of the story
Plot twist: Sans has 2 hp
Actually, this will totally make him twice weaker than Sans with 1 HP stat
The fact that Sans has 1 hp in hidden game code statistics says absolutely nothing, it may just be a place holder, it may be such an amount for the cutscene of his death to work, or Toby just for fun gave him such an amount of hp because it doesn't play any role in game. Metaton NEO canonically has 9 defenses, but in this hidden statistic he has a negative defense so that the player can kill him in one hit, but this does not mean that he actually has a negative defense, it only means that the player has become too strong at this stage and for them 9 defense is nothing.
Might be true but, is there anything in game supporting your theory?
Yeah but considering the rest of the shown stats are 1 and that it says "weakest enemy in the game" he would have 1 HP and mettatons part was just because it's more story there is no battle just an attack
@@user-qb4ij9kr1l This is not a theory. You should not believe the statistics in the game code that no one should have seen and take it seriously as if it canon.
@@iosis9324 Ok, so, how about we take seriously the literaly infinite stats of asriel on a true pacifist route, I know you could say that he was holding back, but if he really wanted to take over the timeline he woudn't have.
The only things that are not canon that are hidden in the files are unused things and hidden ATK and DEF. HP is canon. The only time HP isn't canon is with characters like Flowey (6000 HP, Asgore has 3,500), Omega Flowey (9,950 HP, Mettaton has 9,999), and Asriel (9,999 HP, NEO has 30,000). The reason those aren't canon is simply because it's absurd. But Sans having 1 HP isn't absurd, especially since all his other stats are 1. There's also zero in-game evidence against him having 1 HP except stuff that's been disproven.
Why is it hard to accept this btw
The vine that flowey made to capture them all right before he turned into Asriel has thorns on it surely sans had to be stung by atleast one of them dont you think that that would have dealt some sort of damage
Maybe, but do you really think that he have only 1 hp? In game files that he have max 1 hp, and in pacifist we can have only 20 hp. But did you know we could get 30 hp? We can sleep in inn and mtt to get extra 10 hp, and what sans doing when we running from undyne in hotland? Sleeping.
Plus he could sleep any time before, we can say that he really likes to sleep by looking on his bedroom. It means that he atleast can have 11
@@shadowdokpaynt5236his sleep buff is much better than frisk's, he supposed to survive player attack, but frisk was full of bloodlust and hatred, so it did 999999 damage in the end of day.
Are bunch of vines even enough to deal 1 dmg?
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Flowey didn't do any damage.
Like, Papyrus can do 0 damage with his attack. There no way that Flowey with 6 souls can't do the same.
I feel like you just go with the fandom, since Toby WON’T MAKE UP HIS MIND ABOUT STATS IN THIS 8 YEAR OLD GAME!
Toby said himself Game Files aren't canon
@@AnimationDude_ I know! So then what is cannon Toby?! MAKE UP YOUR MIND!
@@Nirvanaaaaaaaaaaa The stats that appear in-game are canon.
It doesn't matter.
@@AnimationDude_ Okay, THEN WHY are do the stats in game MAKE NO SENSE? Undyne has MORE defence when she ISN’T WEARING ARMOUR.
Thought it was another Mettaton NEO situation.
Aren’t ingame stats not canon?
Like literally mtt neo has negative defense that doesn’t match with his check stats so…
You have any proof of Sans with more than 1 hp?
@@gek4086No, but he’d literally die if he stubbed his toe. Get real, his HP was never meant to be seen and is probably made that way so you instantly one shot him no matter what attack you have without bypassing
@@missingnumberaxolotl-9079Consider the following. What is Sand Undertale known for doing? Sleeping. What does sleeping do? Increase your max HP by 10. Sans has AT LEAST 11 HP at all times.
The HP is consistent though. Defense is changed to script a one shot. This is seen with alot of monsters in genocide like Toriel, Papyrus, and Mettaton Neo (also Undyne to make you deal 1000+ dmg). The HP on the other hand, is never changed. There's no reason for Sans' HP and Defense to simultaneously be lowered for a one shot when this is never done in any other instance.
Contrary to popular belief, hp in the code and hp in the game are exactly the same.
Undyne really has 1500hp for example.
If he forgets his phone at max brightness and opens it at night before he sleeps he'll die
Having 1 HP, And being one of the hardest bosses in the game is insane.
Now play as Whimsum and beat sans
The stats in the game files mean nothing for Sans' HP, remember Mettaton NEO? Supposed to be one of the strongest enemies in canon lore, gets one shotted, the reason out of game lore? His defense is like -40K in the game files, the same Logic could apply to Sans, Mettaton NEO has this defense so that Toby is SURE we One Shot Mettaton NEO, it could be the same thing for Sans.
Nope. When a one shot is scripted in game the defense is changed to the negatives. Just like you mentioned with Mettaton Neo. This is also true for genocide Papyrus, Toriel, and literally every other one shot. HP is never changed to script a one shot and the hp in the files is accurate to every single other character.
@@kozolith2121 yeah, but what if it's just Toby being lazy and since (I'm pretty sure) all of Sans' stats are 1 just pressing one everytime
That's possible but it's not like Toby is a particularly lazy game dev. It just doesn't make sense for him to change Sans' hp when he never changes the hp for any other character.
Contrary to popular belief, HP in the code and in the game are exactly the same.
Undyne has really 1500hp for example.
Also, litterally every "boss" (except Undyne the Undying) is scripted to die in one-hit in genocide, yet Sans is the only one of them who have 1hp in code.
@@sheogorath6834 Because you don't even fight Sans at all in any other route besides the no mercy one. Why would Toby give him any other HP stat when he just dodges every attack anyway?
ah yes, "ins't canon", my favourite phrase
So flowey's vines deal less damage to mosters than us because i'm pretty sure we only get to the decimals in the asriel fight that starts right after attacks a bunch of the main characters including sans
No wonder hes so lazy..
In your opinion what is hardest monster in game
however the fandom has fabricated that sans has an addiction to ketchup
like bro he only drank one bottle
Well I wonder if sans accidently hits himself by a metal pole or any accidents