GG . . . you let him get to point where there's just too much BC to overwhelmed you. Tip: "Destroying Turtles" 1. Prevent him from reaching 5-Bases = You were doing a decent job but not enough. Switching to more maurauders is more effective. Also just by having a Squad of Maurauders hunting Bases while both your Main-Armies still Clashing might just win you the game😁(Remember How annoying the Maurauders are in the Train Mission in the Campaign ) 2. More Vikings = Cut off any medivac and go Purely on Vikings on the 1st Starport. Only when you see that his going mass BC that you really need to put 2nd and 3rd starport and Pump NonStop. You doing fine at 1st but you took long to put down starport 2 and 3. 3. Gobble Up the Map like there's No Tomorrow = As you noticed that every expansion he has are all Planetary his basically expanding in a slowly pace. Beat him economically by expanding 4x faster, because Mech is slow and he can't keep up with BIO mobility which should be able to move quickly to protect those expansions. Just don't LOSE those expansions easily like you did, BUT if you do lose a couple of expansion do it with him losing his entire fleet 😊(a fleet of BCs is the same worth as 4-5 Bases fully Saturated) 4. BC Hunter Viking Squad = Create a Squad of Vikings whos sole purpose is to Hunt down those BCs which is his only means of Harassments and Assaults while most his mech is on defense. 6-Vikings is enough for 1-BC then just add more proportional to his BCs. 5. Ravens against more BCs = As the BC count gets bigger it gets harder to destroy the fleet especially when Vikings and Thors gets mixed in. HOWEVER every Sky and Mech Units has big counter, "Interference Matrix". Disabling half his Mech Army enables you to atleast destroy half or even 3/4 of his Army before they become functional again. Also with Anti-Armor Missile you might just wipe out his entire Army.
Before I watch the match: Mass BCs are terrible. The way to beat them is scouting early so you know they're coming, then massing your own Ravens and disabling the BCs and using marines or vikings to kill them. Also kill their workers ASAP before the BCs are in large numbers (4+) . Key: Scout their base!!
I think you should tweak your opening a little to an earlier 3rd, rax, exp, fact, starport, 3rd, then continue. Depending on what you want to do or respond to, as 2 rax and engi bay. You were very late on more starports and forgot high impact on the thors (23 mins doesn't count) ;)
Tough game. That is a big macro map and trying to break a turtle Terran is a pain. Its a big reason I main Protoss...I can only break them early with chargelot, Archon, Immortal, or if it goes over 10 minutes, I have to go full Skytoss Tempest Carrier. And even then it's a headache with teleporting BCs and such. Attack early against anyone going for high tech like Thors and BCs. The attack at 8 min was the right idea with poor execution. Thors take a lot of tech and you saw it, so attacking with your bio was spot on. But then you ran marines up his ramp into his sieged tanks.... Instead, siege your tanks just in range of his supply depots and bunker. Use your vikings for vision and let that damage rain on him and force a response. Then he comes into your siege line instead of the other way around. TvT is all about positioning. After that, it just became a big macro game with max'd armies and bases. BCs are more A-moveable than bio/tank/viking/lib. Just a tough go. Plenty of better tips from others on that. But I find it super frustrating that BC players never want to fight, they just want to counter attack across the map. I do think your openings have become a little haphazard. I feel like you are at your best when you have a tight opening and early drop/aggression. Lately, sometimes it's a 1-1-1, sometimes a 2-1-1, sometimes the engie bay and turrets show up really early, sometimes later. I'd love to see a specific goal like: I'm going to hit a 2 base 3-1-1 pressure at x minutes with 2 medivacs and 16 marines with stim and shields.
You've mentioned a few times that you don't like this map. Did you know that you can avoid a map? You can do up to three different maps, and it just makes it so you won't play those maps
How to beat mass BC? Hit hard and fast early. You already scouted the Fusion Core, I think (next to left Gas in his Main). You just never clicked it to see. Instead you clicked buildings you could already see what they were. 🙁
tell your thors to use high impact payload. @18:00
GG . . . you let him get to point where there's just too much BC to overwhelmed you.
Tip: "Destroying Turtles"
1. Prevent him from reaching 5-Bases
= You were doing a decent job but not enough. Switching to more maurauders is more effective. Also just by having a Squad of Maurauders hunting Bases while both your Main-Armies still Clashing might just win you the game😁(Remember How annoying the Maurauders are in the Train Mission in the Campaign )
2. More Vikings
= Cut off any medivac and go Purely on Vikings on the 1st Starport. Only when you see that his going mass BC that you really need to put 2nd and 3rd starport and Pump NonStop. You doing fine at 1st but you took long to put down starport 2 and 3.
3. Gobble Up the Map like there's No Tomorrow
= As you noticed that every expansion he has are all Planetary his basically expanding in a slowly pace. Beat him economically by expanding 4x faster, because Mech is slow and he can't keep up with BIO mobility which should be able to move quickly to protect those expansions. Just don't LOSE those expansions easily like you did, BUT if you do lose a couple of expansion do it with him losing his entire fleet 😊(a fleet of BCs is the same worth as 4-5 Bases fully Saturated)
4. BC Hunter Viking Squad
= Create a Squad of Vikings whos sole purpose is to Hunt down those BCs which is his only means of Harassments and Assaults while most his mech is on defense. 6-Vikings is enough for 1-BC then just add more proportional to his BCs.
5. Ravens against more BCs
= As the BC count gets bigger it gets harder to destroy the fleet especially when Vikings and Thors gets mixed in. HOWEVER every Sky and Mech Units has big counter, "Interference Matrix". Disabling half his Mech Army enables you to atleast destroy half or even 3/4 of his Army before they become functional again. Also with Anti-Armor Missile you might just wipe out his entire Army.
Before I watch the match: Mass BCs are terrible. The way to beat them is scouting early so you know they're coming, then massing your own Ravens and disabling the BCs and using marines or vikings to kill them. Also kill their workers ASAP before the BCs are in large numbers (4+) . Key: Scout their base!!
You beat mass BC's the same way you beat mass carriers. You deny him the time to build them by killing him(in theory at least).
I think you should tweak your opening a little to an earlier 3rd, rax, exp, fact, starport, 3rd, then continue. Depending on what you want to do or respond to, as 2 rax and engi bay.
You were very late on more starports and forgot high impact on the thors (23 mins doesn't count) ;)
Tough game. That is a big macro map and trying to break a turtle Terran is a pain. Its a big reason I main Protoss...I can only break them early with chargelot, Archon, Immortal, or if it goes over 10 minutes, I have to go full Skytoss Tempest Carrier. And even then it's a headache with teleporting BCs and such. Attack early against anyone going for high tech like Thors and BCs.
The attack at 8 min was the right idea with poor execution. Thors take a lot of tech and you saw it, so attacking with your bio was spot on. But then you ran marines up his ramp into his sieged tanks.... Instead, siege your tanks just in range of his supply depots and bunker. Use your vikings for vision and let that damage rain on him and force a response. Then he comes into your siege line instead of the other way around. TvT is all about positioning.
After that, it just became a big macro game with max'd armies and bases. BCs are more A-moveable than bio/tank/viking/lib. Just a tough go. Plenty of better tips from others on that. But I find it super frustrating that BC players never want to fight, they just want to counter attack across the map.
I do think your openings have become a little haphazard. I feel like you are at your best when you have a tight opening and early drop/aggression. Lately, sometimes it's a 1-1-1, sometimes a 2-1-1, sometimes the engie bay and turrets show up really early, sometimes later. I'd love to see a specific goal like: I'm going to hit a 2 base 3-1-1 pressure at x minutes with 2 medivacs and 16 marines with stim and shields.
Forgot to mention a couple of games ago. But congrats on not making marauders in TvT! Might be small but bad habits are hard to kill, so congrats
You've mentioned a few times that you don't like this map. Did you know that you can avoid a map? You can do up to three different maps, and it just makes it so you won't play those maps
How to beat mass BC?
Hit hard and fast early.
You already scouted the Fusion Core, I think (next to left Gas in his Main). You just never clicked it to see. Instead you clicked buildings you could already see what they were. 🙁
Though, in this case, mass BC may have been his end game goal, but he wasn't rushing for it.