Relegated But Appreciated: Why Gary Rowett Will Always Be Welcome at Birmingham City #61
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- Gary Rowett was appointed as Interim Manager for the final 8 games of a chaotic 2023/24 season to try to help Birmingham City steer away from the the EFL Championship relegation places. Despite an upturn in results and a significant improvement in defence Gary's efforts proved be in vain as Birmingham City were relegated to League One in their final match of the season despite beating playoff bound Norwich City 1-0.
In this podcast we look at the teams performance in the final 8 matches under Gary Rowett and analyse the impact that he made and discuss some of the decisions that improved performances but also fell short of achieving the goal of avoiding relegation to League One.
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Remember that the table is about points. GR made more points in 8 games than Rooney in 15 games with the same players and totally demoralised squad. He did a fantastic job with what he had. If it were not for Eustaces good start and GR's good finish to the season, we would have been relegated weeks if not months ago. GR gave us all hope.
Thank you for your comment Steve. Fair play to Gary Rowett he did the best he could but I think he was appointed as few games to late as with more games I think he would have kept us up. KRO
@@SmallHeathAllianceFCI listen to your channel every episode and I agree and trust your opinions. Keep up the great work dudes. KRO
@@stevepowell2810 thank you for your kind comment Steve which is greatly appreciated. KRO
As usual, a very common sense conversation between two Blues fans! My impression of GR? As a former defender he sets his stall on the defensive side of the game. We need someone like Juke (player/coach role) who can help out the forwards, both old and new.. I believe a season in league 1 will get us back to winning ways!! Keep the faith!! KRO
Thank you for your comment and we are pleased you liked the podcast.
Gary did a good job and as expected we stopped shipping goals which was a problem for most parts of the season. We just fell short but fair play to Gary for taking the job on in the first place. I hope the club offer Jukey a player/coach role as he represents everything Blues fans want to see in a player and he is a great role model for younger players. KRO
I'm a big Rowett fan.
I think he is a class manager and a great man.
Rowett had nothing to loose unfortunately for Birmingham.
If he kept you up he would have been a messiah.
Mowbray is a development coach so if he comes back you will rip leauge one up with the momentum to do well in the Championship the following season.
However I don't think you can go far wrong with Rowett personally.
I really don't know what has gone wrong with Burke ?
He was absolutely brilliant for us last year.
KRO !
COYL 🦁
Thank you for your comment Kenny. Gary has done a great job while he was here and with the resources he had available and the few games he managed he couldn’t really have done much more.
We should get so clarity on the manager situation soon and we are anticipating that Tony Mowbray will return if he is fit and well again. If that is the case Gary will always have a special place in the hearts of Blues supporters as a former player and manager and will always be welcome at St. Andrew’s. KRO
Very generous with your comments as usual guys. A pleasure to listen to.
Thank you very much for your comment Paul and we are pleased you like the podcast. KRO
As usual another great video...its the first l turn on for blues news. Keep it up
Thank you very much for your comment Graham which is greatly appreciated. KRO
Great podcast as always. I agree, relegation wasn’t Rowett’s fault. He had such a difficult situation to take on - and respect to him for taking it on. I think bar him deciding to play Burke for the Rotherham game, he did a decent job under the circumstances. But I’m hoping Mowbray will be fit enough to return for the L1 season. KRO 💙🤍
~Catherine
Thank you very much for your comment Catherine. Yes, the Burke decision raised a few eyebrows however, with what he had I don’t think Gary could have done a great deal more. Me too, hoping Tony is fit and well and back with us ASAP. KRO
I liked Rowett, but agree completely about the style of approach. I would be interested to see what he could do with his own squad.
On a separate issue, I'm really concerned about our recruitment. It's been awful for a long time. We need a change in approach in that department. I include the recruitment under Tony Mowbray too.
Thank you for your comment. I think the relegation will be a massive wake up call for the club who will look long and hard at recruitment. I’m sure they will get it right, in fact they have too! KRO
I kind of agree that Gary Rowett was ok. But for the future, what do you think? If we don't get any new information about Tony Mowbray's illness, should we approach Liam Rosenior, who have just been sacked by Hull, just like Eustace was sacked by us, after doing a very good season?
Thank you for your comment. We said near the end of the podcast that Gary did the best he could with what he had however both Matt and myself feel that the club will probably want to go in a different direction in terms of playing style. I hope that Tony Mowbray is fit and well and can resume his duties as soon as possible. KRO
No because he effectively sent us down!
@@2002ChrisK sorry, I don’t think it is fair to pin that on Gary Rowett. He had 8 games out of 46 and if you use the average points he got in those 8 games and multiple it by 46 we would have had 62/63 points. The damage had already been done when Gary Rowett arrived. KRO
Sorry guys my comment wasn't about Gary Rowett, but I was referring to the comment saying that we should approach Rosenior. My comment was meant to be light hearted - by losing their last game Hull (and so Rosenior) helped to send us down. Just to be clear I was a big fan of Gary Rowett as our player and as our manager first time around. Like I said his record when he came back wasn't bad, but the reality was that teams around us were doing better. A big disapointment for me was that I thought that Tony Mowbray's diagnosis might galvanise and motivate the squad if only to lift his spirits, but the opposite happened under Mark Venus. I know that Tony Mowbray has managed in League One with Blackburn (and Coventry?), but I'm unsure whether he is the right man for the job. And yes Rosenior is someone who we might want to consider. KRO@@SmallHeathAllianceFC
@@2002ChrisK thank you very much for your comment and clarification which is greatly appreciated. It’s true that Liam Rosenior is a good young manager and you are right Hull did us no favours in the final round of fixtures! KRO
At any other time of the season Gary Rowett's record would have been more than acceptable, but with other teams around us FIGHTING to stay up it simply wasn't enough. I was looking at a Sky Retro video on TH-cam a day or two ago when John Terry was talking about his relationship with Jose Mourinho. Terry said something along the lines that he was prepared to come off the pitch in a coffin for his manager. With a handful of exceptions how often did we see that?
I hope it's just paper talk that we're thinking about signing George Byers. Having said that there needs to be some clarity about who will be in charge next season as the clock is already ticking about players becoming available. Portsmouth have released a lot of players and we could do worse than look at Sean Raggett who has vast experience of League One and is a solid centre back.
Let's face it there should be a lot of players happy to sign for us. We now have good owners and won't be in a situation where we might have financial problems, go into administration, not be able to pay players, get points deducted etc etc. How many other clubs in League One, Two or even the Championship can say that?
On the coaching side I want to see the last of Rooney's staff gone. No disrespect to him and I hope that he's recovering, but I don't see Tony Mowbray and his staff as being the best people for the job. He was clearly wrong when he said that we were not in relegation battle and if was his decision to let Kevin Long go for a couple of his old boys then that's unforgivable. I'd like to see Craig Gardner's position under review too.
Lastly as always a great video guys - always very objective about things and certainly get me thing about our great club. Nice to see Father and Son getting on so well too. I had a great relationship with my late dad, even though he was born in Aston and was a Villa fan!
KRO
Thank you very much for your comment which is greatly appreciated and you make some excellent points.
The big thing that stood out to me and Matt last season was the players attitudes where many of them did not seem to realise we were in a relegation battle and did not want to fight. As you point out this needs to be addressed with recruitment in the summer as we need to get players who will fight for the club and the manager in the same way you describe John Terry.
On the coaching side I would like to see Paul Robinson bought in permanently and also I’d like to see Jukey given a coaching role if he is not offered a playing contract. Personally, I would like to see Tony Mowbray back to lead us and I hope he is fit and well and able to do that. He got Blackburn promoted from League One a few seasons ago so he knows what it is all about. KRO
I'm afraid there are a few players who think they are better than they are , and refuse to graft , need to move them out , we need grafters more than ever
Thank you for your comment Harvey. I’m sure that will be addressed in the summer as that was a big issue for us last season. KRO
Shame to see you guys go down. No derby for cov next season. I have no doubt you will get promotion back soon. PUSB
Thank you for your kind which is greatly appreciated. We always enjoyed the Coventry matches, home and away and really hope we can get back up quickly to enjoy them again. Good luck to Cov for next season. KRO
The club needs to establish a footballing brand before any managerial or player recruitment. For example, are we possession based/passing, are we aggressive/hard to beat, are we a counter attacking team, etc. Ideally, this would be established by the owners, technical director, etc…….. then we can appoint the right people based on the brand of football we’re planning to play. Every forward thinking club wants to play out from the back, but I think we need to think bigger than simply copying the trend.
Thank you for your comment. I suspect that there has been or soon will be a bit of an inquest following relegation where all these matter will be discussed.
I would assume that an attractive possession based style is what will be required and I am hoping that Tony Mowbray will be fit and well to return soon in order to facilitate this style and to hopefully establish our playing style. KRO
@@SmallHeathAllianceFC Agreed, really hope Mowbray is back to lead our challenge. Possession based football is the way to go - however, I’d like to see a Blues team with a bit of nastiness too. We really missed this last season KRO
@@user-ty6lj2dv7x I would hope that the recruitment team will look at the character of players as well as their ability. We have clearly been lacking those types of players and especially leaders over the last few seasons. KRO
❤ Gary is tops 😍 👌 🙌 yes yes up and up yes😅😅up and up yes 🙌 tops 🙌 ❤blue's upwards 💙 🙌 👏 😀 👍 Tony job 💙 😀 ❤yes 💙 🙌 💪
Thank you for your comment Paul. KRO
I would love Gary Rowett to stay full time, northing forthcoming from the club . We don’t know what’s happening with Tony … KRO..
Thank you for your comment. I think we will hear from the club quite soon in terms of the manager situation. Gary did a really good job with what he had however I hope Tony is fit and well and ready to return soon. KRO
Great video guys. I do disagree though, for me if Mowbray cannot come back (which would be really sad and I really rate him highly) Rowett is the natural choice. He knows the club inside out which has helped him get the turnaround we needed. Alright it was not enough but I don't think any other manager could have come in and got us as close as he did. He's just had 8 games with the squad and will know who to clear out and who to keep which helps with planning ahead. He's a good manager and I think to prioritise style of play over results will just see be making the same mistake as we did getting Rooney in. Rowett is a capable championship lvl manager so if Mowbray cannot come back then we should be all out on trying to get Rowett in. League one isn't the same and tippy tappy sexy ball may not work when you have other teams used to just kicking the proverbial out of one another! - Once again great content and the back ground with the shirts is really smart! :D
Thank you for your comment Harry which is appreciated. Myself and Matt both agreed that if Tony was not able to come back or if he decided to retire and the club appointed Gary as a permanent manager then we would both support him and get behind him. It is just that the club are likely to want a more progressive and possession based style of football and therefore may look elsewhere.
We have our fingers crossed that Tony will be fit and well and able to return as he got Blackburn promoted from League One a few seasons ago and he does like to play progressive football so he would be perfect. KRO
I think my opinion of Gary Rowett was a bit coloured by his decision to play Burke and drop Miyoshi and the performances against Rotherham and Huddersfield. However now I've calmed down a bit I can see that on the whole he did a good job, and of course he won more games than Rooney did in 15. Who will take over though ?. Will Tony Mowbray come back ?, I'm not sure he will. I think Gary Rowett will wait for a Championship job to appear. I'm a bit stumped to think of anyone who fits the bill to be honest. Liam Rosenior ?.
Thank you for your comment. Very true about the Burke decision however overall Gary did as well as he could with the resources he was given. He only had 8 games and in my opinion I wish he had been appointed a few games earlier.
I’m sure we will get some clarity on the manager situation very soon and I really hope that Tony Mowbray is fit and well and able to return as I think he would be perfect for getting us out of League One. KRO
11 points in 8 games = 1.375 points per game. Multiplied by 46 = 63.25 points. May even have been enough if Rowett had being appointed earlier.
Thank you for your comment. I’ve responded to a few earlier comments saying the same thing, that in my opinion Gary Rowett was appointed a few games to late. With a few more games I think he would have kept us up. KRO
I really liked Rowett but the Burke blunder will always be in my mind when I think of him for a long time - what the hell was he thinking - such a costly decision to bring his mate in for half a game 🤦♂️
Thank you for your comment. Picking Burke to start was certainly a strange decision. KRO
I really like Rowett. I'm gutted for him as well as us that he couldn’t do the job that he was brought in to do, and that was to keep us safe. He obviously didn't have a lot of time, but in the time he did have, he fluffed his lines. There were some very odd decisions made at times, some really odd ones (I don't need to mention the most odd).
I think it's a combination of the sides in and around us and below us having better form and fight than us and Rowett for whatever reason not being able to get the beat out of the players consistently enough over his 8 games.
It's difficult to judge him only on 8 games, but we, of course, have his time as permanent manager previously to judge him on to. I was gutted when he was sacked to bring in Zola (the less said about that the better) and although under different owners it was right up there with the decision to sack Eustace and bring in Rooney.
Thar being said, if Mowbray isn't to come back. Whilst the squad needs a total face-lift, I feel that the dugout does too, so on that basis, I would say no to Rowett being our manager.
KRO 💙
Thank you for your comment Richard. I think Gary did his best with what he had to work with and I wish he had been appointed a few weeks earlier, as I think he would have kept us up.
I hope Tony is fit and well and able to return as I think he would be the perfect manager to get us out of League One. KRO
@SmallHeathAllianceFC the Millwall, Cardiff, Rotherham, and Huddersfield games were awful.
I like Rowett, but we can only judge him on what he did on the same basis of all the other managers that we had that season, so on that basis, I think he blew it. All water under the bridge now. Time to move on. Hopefully, with Mowbray in charge. Clarification of the Mowbray situation is needed and ASAP.
KRO 💙
@@richardpincher8936 myself and Matt in the podcast, also agreed that Gary was probably not the right option moving forward as the club are likely to want a more progressive and possession based style of football which Tony Mowbray will provide. Fair play to Gary though for taking in the challenge. KRO
@SmallHeathAllianceFC Yeah, absolutely fair play to him for coming in and giving it a go. It's just a shame he couldn't finish his unfinished business, but that was the risk versus the potential reward. KRO 💙
@@richardpincher8936 KRO
Yes, thank you for playing Burke away to Rotherham. Baffling decision.
Thank you for your comment. We did make reference to that in the podcast and that was a really strange decision however I think Gary did the best with what he was given to work with. KRO
@@SmallHeathAllianceFCbut he obviously didn’t cos he didn’t need to play Burke - myoshi should of had 90 mins - match was too crucial to take a chance with someone who ain’t played since jan and hasn’t showed anything special at all - KRO
@@ethnic_on_a_technic there is no doubt that the Burke decision was strange! KRO
I said at the time that if anyone could keep us up it would be
Gary .I don't think anybody could have done a better job in
trying.
Thank you very much for your comment and agreed, Gary did the best he could with what he was given but sadly the damage was already done and he was appointed a little late in the day. KRO
Hi Gents, I think you've summed up the Gary Rowett period very well, he could only do the job with the players he was given. We've all been talking about the club's ambitions for the future, but certain players just didn't seem to want to buy into it. Was it they thought that it wasn't going to involve them? i'm just guessing. If Tony Mowbray decides to retire, who will take over? I'll throw this one at you, Neil Warnock. Could be ideal for just getting us back into the championship, then back to his pipe and slippers. Your thoughts. KRO
Thank you very much for your comment David. I think Gary was appointed a little late in the day with only 8 games remaining and he did his best but unfortunately the damage had already been done.
I’m hearing a few different things but there seems to be a lot of noise about Tony returning soon. If that is true and I stress if, then that would be great news. KRO
Hi guys
Think Rowett did ok in a very Gary Rowett way, I seen a stat the other day and haven’t checked it but it said under Rooney and Venus out of 21 games they were in charge we took just 11 points out of 63 which tbh is abysmal
Think over the season that’s what cost us
KRO
Thank you for your comment. As we said in the podcast we think that Gary did the best with what he had. Unfortunately as you point out with the Rooney and Venus stats, the damage was already done before he arrived. KRO
With Rowett averaging 1.375 points per game for the last 8 games, 21 games in theory could have earned 28.875 points.
Give him the job permanently a proper blue nose and give Tony job at the overseeing recruitment and bugger Gardner off his record on recruitment is rubbish and take the prat with him who employed Rooney who didn’t stand a chance with this squad
Thank you for your comment. Fair play to Gary for taking on the job and trying his best. We just fell short but Gary did improve results and tighten up the defence however I think he was appointed a few games too late. Hopefully Tony will be fit and well and able to return to us soon. KRO
He didn't achieve what he was brought in to do. For me it was the three results, Cardiff, Rotherham and Huddersfield. One win in that and we would have been safe. Before Rowett started, I had been worried that we had Rotherham and Huddersfield away, rather than at home. The "easier" games away.
Thank you for your comment David. I agree with what you say about the Cardiff, Rotherham and Huddersfield games especially those final two away games being away from home. I wish the club would have appointed Gary a few games earlier in which case I think we would have stayed up. KRO
Brum will be back. But I don't agree with all the GR praise. From day one he appeared far too relaxed.....let's face it, he couldn't lose could he, only Brum could.
Thank you for your comment. With only 8 games to turn things around Gary came into a tough situation. I think that it is more appreciation we feel rather than heaping lots of praise. Unfortunately, the majority of the damage had been done earlier in the season before he arrived. KRO
I think the downfall was the sacking of John Eustace and bring in SHREK/rooney KRO
Thank you for your comment. It’s true to say that the appointment of Rooney was exceptionally poor and had a negative effect on our season however in the final 8 games I think Gary did his best to try to keep us up. Unfortunately we fell slightly short. KRO
@@SmallHeathAllianceFC i'm not blaming Gary at all.. was it 15 games 10 points under SHREK just not good enough KRO
@@grumpystrainset-4357 very true. The Rooney experiment definitely damaged our season. KRO
GR did a great job given the hand he was dealt. The last two away performances were disappointing and I think we were hoping that we would go and get big wins. Playing OB was obviously a "brain fade" but even Alex Ferguson made mistakes. I believe that he "over thought" the situation but he was trying to address the fact that Rotherham were going to put 10 men behind the ball and, unless you're coached by Pep Guadiola that does make it extremely hard and time consuming to pass through teams. At the time, people were debating about whether we should just go there and throw men forwards but if we had gone there with an open style of play and tried to outscore them then that could have backfired as well. Don't forget- we had only one fit striker available to select from. The problem of not being clinical enough and not scoring enough goals was happening for weeks before GR arrived. Therefore, I think it is grossly unfair for some people to criticise him for the fact that we could not go to Rotherham and score goals at will. We did actually get to 50 points at the end of the day, which would have been enough to avoid relegation in most seasons and would have been a fantastic achievement from where we were when he took over. Had Sanderson shown more professionalism before the Rotherham game and not had to be stripped of the captaincy, or the players hadn't completely ignored what they were told to do for that Huddersfield equaliser then we could easily have won one of those games 1-0 and stayed up. A lot of the better teams in the division only managed to beat Rotherham 1-0 and so it was not as easy as people assumed, and we had no centre forward. Even teams at the bottom of the championship can defend well and you don't even see premiership teams going to those sorts places and scoring at will.
I would be more than happy for GR to be given the job of getting us back up if TM isn't able to carry on.
Thank you for your comment. You make some really good points about the Rotherham and Huddersfield games and ones that we made in the pre and post match video for those matches.
I’m sure Gary with look back in hindsight and wish he had done some things different just like we all do in life ourselves. Overall I think Gary did the best he could with what he had to work with. KRO