@@wsnx_ what im saying is not true ofc, but if U been into the whole "get strong, deadlifts, lift with ur buttbuddies" when younger U finaly find better sports to do. Gym became this mainstream for young boys, gotta get Girls thing i guess. In my experience ive now started speed skating on rollerblades which is probably even more fun. Mc donalds always gonna fill your stomach but might aswell widen the food horizon try the finer things in life
It only sounds long, because he added the type of road immediately after saying the name ;). He said; ‘Goor (a city) cycling tour’ . I am not 100% sure how to say the this type of road in english. Something like concrete bricks with grass in between lol.
I raced in Holland and Germany in the 1980s. Fast and furious, narrow roads and races in the middle of villages. it really taught me good bike handling.
I raced in the Netherlands and Belgium in late 80s. When were you there?? I only remember a couple guys who were there when I was racing. A teammate and Jonas Carney. This was 89. Racing was brutal fast and aggressive. Crazy.
@@timothydean9407 Nord Limburg in 86 I think it was. Most of the time I was across the border in. Germany. I was stationed there with the RAF from 84-88.
500W for 10 seconds? Keep riding keep training, you'll smash that in no time. Do you ride indoors on Zwift? If so do the Tractor Pulls workout. It's 30 second intervals at at (I think 200% FTP). When I did them last winter they were around 500W. You're tired at the end of them but they do get you stronger.
This is basic if you train sprints,a good 10-15% grade uphills, intervals and do barbell squats and deadlifts to strengthen your hams and quads i know this because im an mtb road racer and i can hold this watt for 11 seconds but if your on a road bike thats ez
It looks like so many different brands of bikes are used. I saw all kinds of them. In your US footage it's mostly Specialized, Cannondale and for some reason Colnago.
You have merida, merida owns 49% of specialized. You have sensa. Really good brand. Krush is a netherlands based brand, amazing brand imo. And ofc giant cube etc And ofc orbea
Hahah this is so familiar! I'm a Belgian junior (U19) bike racer and our races are exactly the same: chaos, crosswinds, people riding through the grass,... Here in Belgium and in the Netherlands, it's just normal!
There's a racing series for non-licensed riders only in Germany called the German Cycling Cup. It would be great if you could somehow get some footage of those. They're epic, and despite the "pure amateur" fields, they are jaw-dropping fast. They're out and back mostly (apart from the absolutely brutal Nürburgring event which is 7 laps, 140km, and get this, 3300m of climbing). Some of the scenery is stunning too, not that you have the slightest chance to notice it during the event. But still. Worth looking at. Big teams (amateur, no licenses) dominate. Lots of tactics. These Dutch/Belgian events are great too. Always fun to see.
I would love to see a candid video on how your perspective on racing amateur has change after getting really into the European cycling culture. Can you tell us the differences between racing and attitudes in the US versus what have you learned from Europe ways?
I miss racing... I was so ready for this CX season... After the season opener... Bye bye season. That CX race was actually at Glen's home track at OWC Oldenzaal.
Just watched another video on this channel of a 25km race in US with 170-230W at the beginning of the race. This guy is doing consistent 700W and jumping between 500-800W at the beginning of 90km race :D - makes it more impressive with more context. 25:21 Then he is tired and relaxing at the end, at 300-450W :D
Races in Belgium are called kermes' and are between 50 to 80km (30 to 50 miles) and usually consist of a 5 to 16 km (3 to 10miles) lap in the countryside at 45 kph(23mph) for 2 hours this is only for u16 (14to16 years old) with restricted gears i cannot specify for juniors and senior races. All races in Belgium and the Netherlands are the same speed just the distance changes
At our local training race, it was not uncommon for me to get into the last few laps and not see any of my teammates. I like to be proactive rather than reactive, so often I would find somebody who I noticed had been racing hard all race, in a way I admired, sharing all the work, etc, and then see him doing what I was -surfing the front trying to figure out what wheel to follow, and I’d give them a shout; “I’m your horse!” Boom, take him to the front, hold him in position, lead him out, and launch him. And a couple of things: Often my teammates were just a little bit behind- sometimes boxed in- and benefitted from me stretching out and accelerating the field anyway, I made a lot of friend/ frenemies and was able to recruit a lot of strong solos onto our team, and -as a sprinter- I was training in a way where I did a lot more work at the end of a race than I normally would, so when it came to official races I didn’t worry about saving *everything* for those last 200m, I was comfortable spending a little when my leadouts went awol.
I live in Europe too, so I'd say it's Dutch racing, not European, I never did anything like this. :) I'm sure it's good training for the narrow road classics!
Same here. Raced in U23 and Elite in Spain and races were nothing like this. Average race was 140-150 km at 37-42 km/h, with far more elevation changes and wider roads too.
i hear you talking about narrow roads all the time in this vid . but yet i have to see1 XD XD great video as always keep it up thnx for the entertainment greetings from holland
What version of Zwift is this? I like how real it looks and how they put cool things on the side of the road like it's real. Also am digging the 1st person view.
From a European point of view, we consider that specific kind of race as Dutch rather than European. You may encounter larger road in the rest of Europe. And above all, you will get strong wind with rain only in Belgium and Netherlands.
@@NorCalCycling You should come to Belgium to ride the "kermis" races. There are so many of them during summer time, plenty of options close by, if you are positioned somewhat centrally you can just go to the races by bike, you don't even need a car. They are similar to this race but will be in villages so the people of the village can watch their local race.
Have you heard about the Garmin Varia RTL515? It has a radar that shows indication on your Garmin bike computer or Wahoo element of car's approaching you from behind.
@@haakman123 Probably Jasper? But he was racing in SoCal too. th-cam.com/users/jasperverkuijl For example here: th-cam.com/video/_PV-vxOKExI/w-d-xo.html
For all the non dutch people in the comments, try to pronounce this: Grote grijze gozers uit giethoorn schuren door de grasklinkers. It means big grey (haired, that word isn't in the sentence) dude's from giethoorn race through the grasklinkers (those bricks you see next to the tarmac in this vid) the sentence doesn't make a whole lot of sense, but it has all the words foreigners have trouble with. Best of luck haha
Hi guys. I´m new to these bike races, but the techniques are really fascinating me. Could someone please explain to me: 1. At first he tried to form a breakaway. Why didn´t it work ? Couldn´t he just do it with his mates or whats the point there ? 2. In the final meters. why did he drop back so far. Didn´t he care about his position ?
I don't know about point 2, but for 1 it's all about tactics. He can't just go with his team because all the other teams would work together to chase them back. If more teams are in the breakaway there's less chasing behind, because they all have someone in the break who has a chance to win. It's about knowing who has the best chances of winning in a breakaway and if a team thinks they don't have very good chances or they're not represented they should chase.
2. It's a team sport, so he was working to produce the best team result. He worked hard in the first half to make it easy on his teammate who is better at sprinting from a large group. His final energy was used to position that teammate in the front for the sprint. I explain this in the video as well.
@@NorCalCycling Oh okey. I just didn´t realize that he had no energy left. I´m not a cyclist. Watching these videos, cycling looks so easy and smooth. Most probably not.
You know what I didn't see a bunch of people crashing. They were protecting their front wheel and changing lines predictably even if they had to go off road
I am honestly baffled at the types of speeds these racers are able to maintain. I don't consider myself a particularly weak or unfit person (ran trails for years prior to cycling) and just maintaining something like 20mph for several miles is a feat for me
This is not a 'top' level race. It was classified as interclub.... elite/beloften/Amateurs A. Prize money? probably nothing. Don't race what you cant replace. And those alloy wheels are perfect for not worrying about moving up on the grasklinkers. The ribbles are like mini cobbles.
@@luukrutten1295 I didn’t want to use Cat 1/2 etc because I know that’s not used internationally. Looking at the speeds and cornering skills this would be a P/1/2 crit in the US. Here if you rock up to a cat 5 race everyone has Zipps/Enves/etc. pretty wild how much money people will race a crit on. Always amazed at dudes who make half of what I do rocking up to a weeknight crit on a $12,000+ machine.
We really need some American races to analyze. These Europeans have races 24/7, but for us we train most of year and for only a few races in the summer other than group/training rides
That 500+w to bring back the breakaway was nothing short of heroic
3:39 exactly 😳
My legs cramp just by looking at these numbers
Don’t think I’d make it to the cramping stage 😂
@@ihitballandballgoes1516 lol😂
I'm not a biker I don't know why I watch these religiously lol
MVP 🤣
Suddently you end up with a road Bike and Strava. I can vouch for this as previous gym goer, now i find the gym boring and yeah lol gym is shite
@@fredrikolsen1605 why not both? i love my gym but i also love my road bike, both great activities.
@@wsnx_ what im saying is not true ofc, but if U been into the whole "get strong, deadlifts, lift with ur buttbuddies" when younger U finaly find better sports to do. Gym became this mainstream for young boys, gotta get Girls thing i guess. In my experience ive now started speed skating on rollerblades which is probably even more fun. Mc donalds always gonna fill your stomach but might aswell widen the food horizon try the finer things in life
either, such a strategic endurance sport
When I hit my maximum speed of 36 mph down a steep hill, I’m elated for like a year but these guys kept hitting 36 mph like normal. Kudos
to be fair the netherlands are pretty flat
@@GaminGusTav Yet, the wind in "de polders" can be devestating and feel like a 10% hills at random moments.
@@Cilotje thats the downside of the country being flat...
Fast Riders, Narrow Roads, and Long race names = European Racing
It only sounds long, because he added the type of road immediately after saying the name ;). He said; ‘Goor (a city) cycling tour’ . I am not 100% sure how to say the this type of road in english. Something like concrete bricks with grass in between lol.
Dutch race*
@@woutersandstra6879 Hehe hup holland hup
I see no problem
I crashed 3 times by just watching the race from my chair.
😭😭😭😭
I raced in Holland and Germany in the 1980s. Fast and furious, narrow roads and races in the middle of villages. it really taught me good bike handling.
I raced in the Netherlands and Belgium in late 80s. When were you there?? I only remember a couple guys who were there when I was racing. A teammate and Jonas Carney. This was 89. Racing was brutal fast and aggressive. Crazy.
@@timothydean9407 Nord Limburg in 86 I think it was. Most of the time I was across the border in. Germany. I was stationed there with the RAF from 84-88.
24:00 my current life goal is 10 seconds at 500W and this guy is keeping this power forever like it's some interval training....
500W for 10 seconds? Keep riding keep training, you'll smash that in no time. Do you ride indoors on Zwift? If so do the Tractor Pulls workout. It's 30 second intervals at at (I think 200% FTP). When I did them last winter they were around 500W. You're tired at the end of them but they do get you stronger.
that's nothing just go hard up a steep hill
@AAA ha
This is basic if you train sprints,a good 10-15% grade uphills, intervals and do barbell squats and deadlifts to strengthen your hams and quads i know this because im an mtb road racer and i can hold this watt for 11 seconds but if your on a road bike thats ez
In French Race the goal Is more 1500 watts for 10 seconds just for Can sprint 🤔😂
that dutchman only said a single word an i was like OH EEN NEDERLANDER
Hahaha same
It looks like so many different brands of bikes are used. I saw all kinds of them. In your US footage it's mostly Specialized, Cannondale and for some reason Colnago.
Some weird ones I've never heard of 🤷♂️
You have merida, merida owns 49% of specialized. You have sensa. Really good brand. Krush is a netherlands based brand, amazing brand imo. And ofc giant cube etc
And ofc orbea
There was a Focus frame (german brand) as well
maybe they repaint it to their name
@Matthew Carlin if you look back at his old videos jeff does a video talking about his race bike and it is using knock off Chinese parts so.....
Shout out to all the cows chilling in this video. Moo.
🐮 Moo
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I don't think they could even see them going by... 60kmph blurs
moo
I dont own a bike have never really been into cycling but for some reason can't get enough of watching bike racing...
Welcome to the channel 👍
Get. A. Bike. 😀
goodwill can sort you out for 35$
Glenn's a crazy strong Dutch rider. Would love to see him at Alviso or Blue Train or Spectrum one day :D .
that would be fun to watch
That is absolutely INSANE. Constant fight for position, constant fight for wheels, left-right-left, and it's like 10 km in.... 80 left.
Hahah this is so familiar! I'm a Belgian junior (U19) bike racer and our races are exactly the same: chaos, crosswinds, people riding through the grass,... Here in Belgium and in the Netherlands, it's just normal!
Started the video with a nice godverdomme. Epic
Haha, I hadn't even heard the godverdomme, I heard '....." jonguh!'
That's how I knew it was Dutch xD
That last push by him to chase them down just wow.
Brilliant! Very good analytics. Huge THX for bringing Glenn - very interesting format & commentary!
There's a racing series for non-licensed riders only in Germany called the German Cycling Cup. It would be great if you could somehow get some footage of those. They're epic, and despite the "pure amateur" fields, they are jaw-dropping fast. They're out and back mostly (apart from the absolutely brutal Nürburgring event which is 7 laps, 140km, and get this, 3300m of climbing). Some of the scenery is stunning too, not that you have the slightest chance to notice it during the event. But still. Worth looking at. Big teams (amateur, no licenses) dominate. Lots of tactics.
These Dutch/Belgian events are great too. Always fun to see.
Is Germany the only country of the three apart from Belgium and Netherlands that organizes non-licensed races? If so, I should look into it
What brilliant strategy, commitment and an overall great race!.. great video, thankyou!
I love to see the different between our racing and racing in USA
norcal is da GOAT of youtube cycling channels
Thx Leyton
I would love to see a candid video on how your perspective on racing amateur has change after getting really into the European cycling culture. Can you tell us the differences between racing and attitudes in the US versus what have you learned from Europe ways?
2 hours at that pace holy shit.
Loving the mini "pave" sections on the shoulder of the road - Thanks for sharing Glenn! :-D
that are the "grasklinkers"
@@joriscoppejans6556 more like the "rim brakers" lol
This final push from Glen was awesome. Kudos man!
I miss racing... I was so ready for this CX season... After the season opener... Bye bye season. That CX race was actually at Glen's home track at OWC Oldenzaal.
Last race this season :-(
Just watched another video on this channel of a 25km race in US with 170-230W at the beginning of the race.
This guy is doing consistent 700W and jumping between 500-800W at the beginning of 90km race :D - makes it more impressive with more context.
25:21 Then he is tired and relaxing at the end, at 300-450W :D
Races in Belgium are called kermes' and are between 50 to 80km (30 to 50 miles) and usually consist of a 5 to 16 km (3 to 10miles) lap in the countryside at 45 kph(23mph) for 2 hours this is only for u16 (14to16 years old) with restricted gears i cannot specify for juniors and senior races. All races in Belgium and the Netherlands are the same speed just the distance changes
I did this race in the Nieuwelingen cat. There was a hard wind. And i finished 9th
Congrats
Well done, I wish I still lived there to compete in things like this. The dream
From the creators of lawn bowling, we are excited to introduce the sport of lawn cycling!!
with the lumps it's more like crown green bowls ;o)
Have binge watched most of your videos(not kidding) in last 3 weeks, I wasnt even aware of cycle racing till then. Love, from India!
casual 178bpm with 82km to go XDDD
Really like Glenn's calm voice and English
a good balance to me talking too much and too quickly lol
At our local training race, it was not uncommon for me to get into the last few laps and not see any of my teammates. I like to be proactive rather than reactive, so often I would find somebody who I noticed had been racing hard all race, in a way I admired, sharing all the work, etc, and then see him doing what I was -surfing the front trying to figure out what wheel to follow, and I’d give them a shout; “I’m your horse!” Boom, take him to the front, hold him in position, lead him out, and launch him. And a couple of things: Often my teammates were just a little bit behind- sometimes boxed in- and benefitted from me stretching out and accelerating the field anyway, I made a lot of friend/ frenemies and was able to recruit a lot of strong solos onto our team, and -as a sprinter- I was training in a way where I did a lot more work at the end of a race than I normally would, so when it came to official races I didn’t worry about saving *everything* for those last 200m, I was comfortable spending a little when my leadouts went awol.
I love this channel. its gives me so much energy to cycle :)
This is absolutely terrifying. I have no words. jesus, some of the maneuvers are just insane
I live in Europe too, so I'd say it's Dutch racing, not European, I never did anything like this. :) I'm sure it's good training for the narrow road classics!
It's pretty dutch indeed! Belgian rides are fun too, or so I've heard, but the roads there are worse (and more cobbles!)
Same here. Raced in U23 and Elite in Spain and races were nothing like this. Average race was 140-150 km at 37-42 km/h, with far more elevation changes and wider roads too.
i hear you talking about narrow roads all the time in this vid . but yet i have to see1 XD XD
great video as always keep it up thnx for the entertainment greetings from holland
narrow compared to our roads in the US, maybe those are average in Holland
Hey I think I know Glenn... I didn't know NorCal was this close to my house last year! Fun video.
What version of Zwift is this? I like how real it looks and how they put cool things on the side of the road like it's real. Also am digging the 1st person view.
I love how some riders just casually hit the rumble strip and go off road
This is my earliest right now. It's 2am here love from Philippines jeff
Greetings!
Quality commentary! Thanks a lot! :)
They are crazy strong! Kudos for the great effort for your teammate, yes cycling is hard sport!
he maintained the attack at ~177 bpm, yesterday i reach 160bpm for 30 seconds and feels like going to blacked out :D
you might want to have that looked at
160bpm shouldnt be your max my man. Go see a doctor.
@@dudel39 i know, that's the point
From a European point of view, we consider that specific kind of race as Dutch rather than European. You may encounter larger road in the rest of Europe. And above all, you will get strong wind with rain only in Belgium and Netherlands.
Great video and commentary, Cape Town, South Africa
I wonder wether the art of moving up on "grasklinkers" exists outside of the Netherlands.
Belgium probably
Of course, but it's called "cyclocross" as mentioned in the video.
@@scully2671 true
Argentina... San juan!
@@scully2671 There are no grasklinkers on the side of Belgian roads. It's a typical attribute of Dutch roads.
Glenn, gozer! Your back.
You’re talking about Europe as if it was a single country :D
by 'europe' americans usually mean 'western europe', which is like 3-4 countries for them.
@@luizashabetnick8059 everything else is communism land I guess 🤣
@@yosserc ever heard something about irony? lol.
@@lennart8996 *cringe*
@@sepg5084 anything else? Your face is probably very cringe
Excellent idea and production. Subscribed. Dank je wel.
Mabye get Glenn to come as a guest rider for one of the big race series next year (Intelligentia, Dairyland or Superweek)
that's a good idea, i'm hoping racing resumes in 2021
Would love to race in other scene's. Its only i got a job, a wife, a kid and a morage to pay haha! Maybe someday :-)
@@gln666 week long race series are hard to justify when you have a job. I hope we can travel and go race those series from Montreal next season
Holy fuck, he could power a whole city with that energy.
Any post-COVID plans to head over and test your sprints in Europe?
This is my style of racing, I'd love to. Let's hope that 'post-covid' is something that happens soon...
@@NorCalCycling You should come to Belgium to ride the "kermis" races. There are so many of them during summer time, plenty of options close by, if you are positioned somewhat centrally you can just go to the races by bike, you don't even need a car.
They are similar to this race but will be in villages so the people of the village can watch their local race.
man i gotta get my hands on some of those FFWD wheels :3
Awesome race and commentary!
Loved everything about this gained some tips along the way love from kenya
Just applied for this team yesterday haha
Love ur vids big fan, follow u on strava 👍
Awesome thank you!
Props to the one racer scarifies all these weights to wield a gopro on his bike.
Love you NorCal!!!
Yes you need to do more european race videos
yeah its fun
Dude, you buried the lede. Glenn is a national champ in MTB.
Sees riders mowing grass during the race
Everyone: We're heading to Europe boys!😂
Very nice commentary, super
That's right -- Norcal is going global! I can't wait to see a video from the burgeoning scene in South African countries.
Enjoyed this one! Thanks for sharing.
from Kenya. i would love to do this, perfect road, no hils!
Have you heard about the Garmin Varia RTL515? It has a radar that shows indication on your Garmin bike computer or Wahoo element of car's approaching you from behind.
Some of these guys are so tall. They made the cranks look like short sticks.
haha yes the average bike is 58cm or something
Raced 5 years on dutch roads. Every single elite dutch rider can atleast ride conti level in other countries
Great video, love the Dutch races. Keep it up
Great video and commentary!
Love your videos! What other TH-cam channel would you recommend for cycling races?
Lanterne Rouge
Krush played that pretty well. Wonder how they did in the sprint...
They won.
@@gln666 thanks!
Watching here in Jordan..but Im Filipino from Philippines.
I need more of the European racing content!
Does anyone know any Dutch YT channels featuring racing like this?
@@haakman123 Probably Jasper? But he was racing in SoCal too. th-cam.com/users/jasperverkuijl
For example here: th-cam.com/video/_PV-vxOKExI/w-d-xo.html
Would love to see his power file for the end of the race
For all the non dutch people in the comments, try to pronounce this:
Grote grijze gozers uit giethoorn schuren door de grasklinkers.
It means big grey (haired, that word isn't in the sentence) dude's from giethoorn race through the grasklinkers (those bricks you see next to the tarmac in this vid) the sentence doesn't make a whole lot of sense, but it has all the words foreigners have trouble with. Best of luck haha
Greetings from Philippines
Hi love your vids
From Dubai
HEY! its this 500 watt tempo guy again!..
European racing looks intense 😳
Hi guys. I´m new to these bike races, but the techniques are really fascinating me. Could someone please explain to me:
1. At first he tried to form a breakaway. Why didn´t it work ? Couldn´t he just do it with his mates or whats the point there ?
2. In the final meters. why did he drop back so far. Didn´t he care about his position ?
I don't know about point 2, but for 1 it's all about tactics. He can't just go with his team because all the other teams would work together to chase them back. If more teams are in the breakaway there's less chasing behind, because they all have someone in the break who has a chance to win. It's about knowing who has the best chances of winning in a breakaway and if a team thinks they don't have very good chances or they're not represented they should chase.
2. It's a team sport, so he was working to produce the best team result. He worked hard in the first half to make it easy on his teammate who is better at sprinting from a large group. His final energy was used to position that teammate in the front for the sprint. I explain this in the video as well.
@@okimy3668 That was fast. Thanks for the insight! Makes sense now !
@@NorCalCycling Oh okey. I just didn´t realize that he had no energy left. I´m not a cyclist. Watching these videos, cycling looks so easy and smooth. Most probably not.
@@EyMaxl if you have energy left to content for the sprint, than you could help your sprinter to help position himself better.
they went from 0 to 31 in the first 25 seconds of the race
and then it stayed there for the next 2 hours lol
@@NorCalCycling haha
You know what I didn't see a bunch of people crashing. They were protecting their front wheel and changing lines predictably even if they had to go off road
Sip on your beer every time Glenn says "grasklinkers" and you'll be wrecked by the end of this video.
Do we have a strava profile link from Glenn? Greetings from Holland :)
I am honestly baffled at the types of speeds these racers are able to maintain. I don't consider myself a particularly weak or unfit person (ran trails for years prior to cycling) and just maintaining something like 20mph for several miles is a feat for me
His team are my biggest rivals in almost every race lol
When was this? Not recently, I don’t think. We’re under “lockdown” in Europe.
Sept. 5th
Yo Mikey P, not everyone is.
You know this is Europe because there are dudes in a top level race on aluminum wheels.
This is not a 'top' level race. It was classified as interclub.... elite/beloften/Amateurs A. Prize money? probably nothing. Don't race what you cant replace. And those alloy wheels are perfect for not worrying about moving up on the grasklinkers. The ribbles are like mini cobbles.
@@luukrutten1295 I didn’t want to use Cat 1/2 etc because I know that’s not used internationally. Looking at the speeds and cornering skills this would be a P/1/2 crit in the US. Here if you rock up to a cat 5 race everyone has Zipps/Enves/etc. pretty wild how much money people will race a crit on. Always amazed at dudes who make half of what I do rocking up to a weeknight crit on a $12,000+ machine.
@@David.. we are very frugal bunch of people... Some would call us cheap. We call it efficient ;)
As we say if you can't win on alu wheel you also can't win on carbon.
maybe it's not a good idea to arrive with carbon 50s at races with unsheltered side winds on those narrow roads
great video keep it up and dis is my 2 time asking you but can you plss make a how to sprint better
We really need some American races to analyze. These Europeans have races 24/7, but for us we train most of year and for only a few races in the summer other than group/training rides
Half expecting to see Jasper in this video at some point
Cycling in Europe is just a different league to the US people like Justin Williams wouldn’t stand a chance
He raced in europe, actually.
Your opinion is bad and you should feel bad.
Stop saying narrow road. This is normal peasants countryside road in western europe.
Man I love your videos !!!
It looks nearly as fast as the Isle of Man TT