Since I'm based in the NYC area, I've opted for 225/50/r17's to give me more protection against some of the developed world's most abusive roads. It allows me to drive with more confidence out here and helps give my Enkei TFR's a longer lifespan. 🤷♂️
Im running enkei raijin's on my wrx..no problems yet after 6 months. I personally don't even consider those wheels that are like $700 a set BC quality and the durability of them is going to be sub-par. Don't go for the cheapest set of wheels because you don't have the money. Save the money until you can afford decent wheels and tires don't cheap out on wheels and tires. One should expect to pay at least $1k for wheels+ whatever tires you choose. I did have no name brand tires on when i bought my wrx..the ride was hella-rough..upgraded to perelli pzero's..ride is a lot smoother an more comfortable. Cheap out on everything else if u must jus not wheel/tire
this is a non think. The tires are like what 30 aspect ratio? Potholes and sharp edges can easily crack a wheel like that. I have one changed just the other day, in the garage. You're expecting way too much from cast or even forged aluminum, holding up 3,000 lbs and it's momentum. It doesn't take much at all to bend or crack a wheel, even the best of them. You drive around Boston or at least, the NorthEast. I expect to damage 3 wheels per winter, at least, in Lower Michigan metro areas. This is normal and par for the course.
Just to say it, Enkei's are cast too. Rotary forged is a cast wheel that uses high temps or cnc milling for the final stages of forming. Although yes they have a higher tensile strength, its marginal compared to the increase from forged wheels. Just fyi.
@@AutoEnthusiast I'm not sure how strong they are compared to forged wheels, but regardless they are much stronger than cast wheels since the molecular structure is actually changed and they are much less porous. They have the best strength to cost ratio out of the 3 types of wheels, and they are definitely strong enough for daily driving. That's why I suggested them since it seems like you mostly use the wrx for daily driving and doesn't seem like you want to spend forged wheels money. If money is not an issue, then by all means go for a forged wheel, but from what i'm seeing those are mostly only used for the track.
I’ve had my avid wheels for 3 years and just a week ago I recently upgraded to some 57dr gram lights and so far I can feel a big difference but overall I’ve never had issues due to reviews based on how fragile these wheels are known for cracks but honestly I’ve never had any issues with any cracks nor bend with my av20s and I’ve gone over some big potholes and messed up my alignment but rims were solid and I was running were Toyo proxies 255 35 18 and I’ve heard of sticking with atleast a 35 on the height and they said 30s are not recommended due to cracking issues
I wouldn’t even bother changing out stock rims for rims that cost anything less than 2k plus tires. The cheaper ones are just to easy to bend or crack.
there are plenty of good wheels for less than $500ea. if you want $500ea wheels, than that's on you. I'm perfectly happy w/"$275-$400ea" as long as they have the right construction and are from a well known brand (Konig, Enkei, Fifteen52, Rotiform, etc.). I'd love to rock some Rays, Volks, BBS, or Advan, but since you aren't paying for my wheels, I'll just have to find a suitable substitute that fits my budget. I don't need extra show points.
There isn't a single cheap auto part that isn't a "CHEAP" auto part. Never ever buy cheap stuff that your life may depend on! If you have any interest in improving your car, you have to pay for it.
imho the wheel is too exposed with the size of the tire for a daily driver, maybe a beefier tire will help hold longer, though they look awesome! I have been looking for the aodhan ah06 but Im afraid to get a weak wheel
Oh well thank god I just bought the exact same wheels. How wonderful. Wish I saw this a week sooner. I watched all the av27 wheels I could find then this pops up.
I know this is old (in internet years), but the OE 17" wheels are cast wheels too. but I believe they are built in the Japanese JWL standard. do the Advan1 have this or possibly the (Euro) TUV standard? I would also think your 35 aspect ratio on a 255 tire is also a culprit. I believe a 265/35 tire will fair better and get more tire over the lip of the wheel (just speculating) while maintaining proper circumference.
You probably hit a pothole or curb. Even a slight nick would cause a crack and spread without a driver noticing immediately. I had it happen to me, and it was on some cheap Konig wheels and thin wall(35) tire. I have had it happen to me with my Blitz 03s. The wheel is still destroyed, but it bends instead of cracking(cast vs. forged). From my experience, if I live in a state with a lot of rough roads and I travel a lot? Affordable wheels are okay with me. I would save the 5k wheels for a show car. I have some 18 Advans I havent put on cause I'm afraid to damage them. 😅
They look stunning but they don’t hold up well. I had the same wheels on my 2018 wrx a couple years ago before I sold the car. I had a crack on the front right. I then switched my setup to the AV26 but I ended up having a bend on the driver side. I’m now in a 2020 sti. I’m avoiding Avid all together.
@@AutoEnthusiast i took the silver color cause it was the cheapest and i preffer silver over gold and black for my dark blue miata. But there was also the "sbc" colors witch mean shiny black chrome that i liked alot but it was a a bit more expansive than the others. Also my friend hit the garderail at my local track 2 weeks ago because of snap over steer in his rx8. The rims took a beating the outer lip bent to the ruffle shape of the garde rail but never cracked! The paint did not even peel too and because its a step lip desin non of the spoke where touched! And tire did not loose pressure. If you want pictures i'll be happy to provide them to you.
just put a set of these on my obxt 😂 and then see this. i love the way they look and hopefully i didn’t jinx myself by watching this. Went with more affordable wheels cause I didn’t really see the sense in spending $1500-$2000 wheels on a $8000 17 year old car.
@@AutoEnthusiast thank you.They look 🔥🔥🔥.I have a staggered set up.front rims is 19x8.5 and rear is 19x9.5.What size of tires would you recommend that’s going to be looks just like yours?
@@AutoEnthusiast Wider but less side wall. This Gen is known for a rough ride with 245 40s 18". 35 series is not for every day use. I hate to bust all your bubble but even 40 is at the threshold. 45 and 50 serious is for general usage for imperfections in roads, pot holes, speed bumps etc. I was thinking of going 35s on 19s or 18s but it would mean a show car not a go car. You cant drive around on those wheels and tires. You would need a 2nd set.
Unfortunately avids have a bad reputation. I've heard countless horror stories about them. Mostly the strength and durability doesn't hold up. I love the wheels on my Sti but in the spring I'm buying te37s or advan tc4.
Either white for the te37 or black for the tc4. I have a gray series sti and think the white would really pop! I can't wait. But replacing one of those if I have to is another story 😂
"I can't actually see where the tire popped behind it, but that's the only place that I can imagine"...buddy the air is leaking through the crack in your wheel...the tire never popped😂
@@jonathanmoore7453 Yeah same. My guess is not a mechanically inclined person and when the tire goes flat they default to thinking the tire has a puncture to let the air out, but the air can escape through a wheel crack just as well. I hope they didnt buy a new tire, a new wheel is all they needed.
how often do you have to add air to your tires? I just bought my used STI '16 two months ago and had a PPI at a Subaru dealership, so at that time the air pressure was good. Is it strange that the air pressure sensor came on after two months? Thanks for any information. 😃
My current setup has the closet ratio to the existing wheel diameter so it won't effect my % change for speed. I have been considering it, but the few times I have had issue, a few cm's won't make the difference.
@@AutoEnthusiast You can go with 255/40/18, thats my setup and wont effect your speedo. It makes your tire beefy and closes your wheel gap, so the rims look larger and car look lowered on stock height.
uh? Can confirm nothing but the wheels on my car are cheap? Also define cheap parts, I will give you an insight on business, cast wheels are cast wheels, whether you pay $100 or $500 for them. High production, cough cough Avid1, ensures higher QA because the money is there to have it done. Cheap is an SEO term, nothing more.
This was very predictable and obvious from your previous video. It is best to truly know your product before you go on the internet and look a bit foolish to your 878 viewers. You think? If you cannot afford good equipement, do not go online and suggest your cheap stuff to others. It makes no sense.
hm, interesting comment. Sounding like a novice in the life of aftermarket wheels and parts in general. Get a few more years under your belt and come back and discuss. I am not trying to be harsh here, just frank. Also, buying "cheap" parts and equipment 1) nothing to do with affordability 2) a deep understanding of engineering, production, and manufacturing. A cast wheel is a cast wheel.
That's funny that I ran into this video. I recently bought a set of av20s got one wheel that was bent. So I sent in a warranty claim. Got the wheel in directly from avid. Now I have 3 wheels that don't have the stamp and one that does. So I'm going to try and get the correct one. @avid1
Since I'm based in the NYC area, I've opted for 225/50/r17's to give me more protection against some of the developed world's most abusive roads. It allows me to drive with more confidence out here and helps give my Enkei TFR's a longer lifespan. 🤷♂️
Im running enkei raijin's on my wrx..no problems yet after 6 months. I personally don't even consider those wheels that are like $700 a set BC quality and the durability of them is going to be sub-par. Don't go for the cheapest set of wheels because you don't have the money. Save the money until you can afford decent wheels and tires don't cheap out on wheels and tires. One should expect to pay at least $1k for wheels+ whatever tires you choose. I did have no name brand tires on when i bought my wrx..the ride was hella-rough..upgraded to perelli pzero's..ride is a lot smoother an more comfortable. Cheap out on everything else if u must jus not wheel/tire
I agree. Enkei is definitely a great wheel, especially for the price point. I’m running TS-5’s. Light and strong overall phenomenal.
What color are you running?
@@AutoEnthusiast Gloss black.
I plan on running the Enkei TS6 in gloss black this spring 💯
@@jonathanmoore7453 Those are definitely clean! 🔥🔥🔥 Can’t go wrong with Enkei.
this is a non think. The tires are like what 30 aspect ratio? Potholes and sharp edges can easily crack a wheel like that. I have one changed just the other day, in the garage. You're expecting way too much from cast or even forged aluminum, holding up 3,000 lbs and it's momentum. It doesn't take much at all to bend or crack a wheel, even the best of them. You drive around Boston or at least, the NorthEast. I expect to damage 3 wheels per winter, at least, in Lower Michigan metro areas. This is normal and par for the course.
I have same wheels..since May 2020
245/40. No issues for me. Looking at cosmis R1s for upgrade and rock the AV20s for winter 🤘🏼
I’ve been running F1R’s for 3 seasons. No issues, very happy!
Well Avid's are cast and you get what you pay for. I'd probably go Enkei. They're rotary forged and don't break the bank.
Just to say it, Enkei's are cast too. Rotary forged is a cast wheel that uses high temps or cnc milling for the final stages of forming. Although yes they have a higher tensile strength, its marginal compared to the increase from forged wheels. Just fyi.
@@AutoEnthusiast I'm not sure how strong they are compared to forged wheels, but regardless they are much stronger than cast wheels since the molecular structure is actually changed and they are much less porous. They have the best strength to cost ratio out of the 3 types of wheels, and they are definitely strong enough for daily driving. That's why I suggested them since it seems like you mostly use the wrx for daily driving and doesn't seem like you want to spend forged wheels money. If money is not an issue, then by all means go for a forged wheel, but from what i'm seeing those are mostly only used for the track.
I’ve had my avid wheels for 3 years and just a week ago I recently upgraded to some 57dr gram lights and so far I can feel a big difference but overall I’ve never had issues due to reviews based on how fragile these wheels are known for cracks but honestly I’ve never had any issues with any cracks nor bend with my av20s and I’ve gone over some big potholes and messed up my alignment but rims were solid and I was running were Toyo proxies 255 35 18 and I’ve heard of sticking with atleast a 35 on the height and they said 30s are not recommended due to cracking issues
I wouldn’t even bother changing out stock rims for rims that cost anything less than 2k plus tires. The cheaper ones are just to easy to bend or crack.
there are plenty of good wheels for less than $500ea. if you want $500ea wheels, than that's on you. I'm perfectly happy w/"$275-$400ea" as long as they have the right construction and are from a well known brand (Konig, Enkei, Fifteen52, Rotiform, etc.). I'd love to rock some Rays, Volks, BBS, or Advan, but since you aren't paying for my wheels, I'll just have to find a suitable substitute that fits my budget. I don't need extra show points.
I went in a pothole last week in Boston and now im driving back from China
Cheap wheels are fine on a car wrapped with something like a 205 55R16. Definitely not with a low pro tire. Just get Enkei RPF1s.
Very happy to come across this video as those AV20 are on my short list of wheels I'm looking at.
There isn't a single cheap auto part that isn't a "CHEAP" auto part. Never ever buy cheap stuff that your life may depend on! If you have any interest in improving your car, you have to pay for it.
I had reps on a car I kid you you not lasted 200k miles. One slowly leaked air but in the end when I sold the car I was happy with what I got
imho the wheel is too exposed with the size of the tire for a daily driver, maybe a beefier tire will help hold longer, though they look awesome! I have been looking for the aodhan ah06 but Im afraid to get a weak wheel
Don't be afraid, send it! Cast are cast, so unless you are willing to pay for a forged or flow form wheel go for it.
Oh well thank god I just bought the exact same wheels. How wonderful. Wish I saw this a week sooner. I watched all the av27 wheels I could find then this pops up.
I know this is old (in internet years), but the OE 17" wheels are cast wheels too. but I believe they are built in the Japanese JWL standard. do the Advan1 have this or possibly the (Euro) TUV standard? I would also think your 35 aspect ratio on a 255 tire is also a culprit. I believe a 265/35 tire will fair better and get more tire over the lip of the wheel (just speculating) while maintaining proper circumference.
Damn, I wish the avids held up better, as someone who was considering them in the future as I really don't feel like dropping tons of money on wheels.
Exactly why I got them in the first place!
yup those are vGram Lights 57xtreme knock off
You probably hit a pothole or curb. Even a slight nick would cause a crack and spread without a driver noticing immediately. I had it happen to me, and it was on some cheap Konig wheels and thin wall(35) tire. I have had it happen to me with my Blitz 03s. The wheel is still destroyed, but it bends instead of cracking(cast vs. forged). From my experience, if I live in a state with a lot of rough roads and I travel a lot? Affordable wheels are okay with me. I would save the 5k wheels for a show car. I have some 18 Advans I havent put on cause I'm afraid to damage them. 😅
They look stunning but they don’t hold up well. I had the same wheels on my 2018 wrx a couple years ago before I sold the car. I had a crack on the front right. I then switched my setup to the AV26 but I ended up having a bend on the driver side. I’m now in a 2020 sti. I’m avoiding Avid all together.
I'm running Apex EC-7's (form forged), $1350ish for a set, but you get what you pay for!
Get rpf1 and never look back, cheap, relatively strong light as fuck and the spokes even help with coolingbjust like it was intended for f1.
What color did you end up with?
@@AutoEnthusiast i took the silver color cause it was the cheapest and i preffer silver over gold and black for my dark blue miata. But there was also the "sbc" colors witch mean shiny black chrome that i liked alot but it was a a bit more expansive than the others.
Also my friend hit the garderail at my local track 2 weeks ago because of snap over steer in his rx8. The rims took a beating the outer lip bent to the ruffle shape of the garde rail but never cracked! The paint did not even peel too and because its a step lip desin non of the spoke where touched! And tire did not loose pressure.
If you want pictures i'll be happy to provide them to you.
I had those rims Avid for about 2 months got rid off them. Like my dad use to say you get what you pay for.
I have had the avid av06 on my wrx for almost a year now with no issues, maybe I just got lucky
I have been running Rota's for 2 years on my WRX.
Enekei are nice but they’re super heavy. Go with cosmis freeforms
The clockspring of my 06 wrx STI is broken as a result the horn is not working. Can I use a 2014 clockspring on my 06 WRX STI ?
Lol bro, I live in Boston. You can't run 35 ratio in these streets. Minimum is 40-45
eh I don't think there is much of difference when hit something big enough to cause damage lol
@AutoEnthusiast I had a 35 profile and I cracked two wheels. Sucks. Now I go a little bigger with tire size and ratio
just put a set of these on my obxt 😂 and then see this. i love the way they look and hopefully i didn’t jinx myself by watching this. Went with more affordable wheels cause I didn’t really see the sense in spending $1500-$2000 wheels on a $8000 17 year old car.
Please how are they holding up? Thanks in advance
You definitely slammed into something hard
Have you reach out to avid and see what they say? Also to let them know as feedback about the problems people are having with them.
No, and I likely won't. Compared to the average driver, being in boston i put these through the ringer. A 3 inch deep pot hole is a regular daily hit.
What size is your tires and rims?Its perfect for me because im not planning to lowered my car for a while.
I am running 18x9.5's, +38mm. Tires are 255/35R18
@@AutoEnthusiast thank you.They look 🔥🔥🔥.I have a staggered set up.front rims is 19x8.5 and rear is 19x9.5.What size of tires would you recommend that’s going to be looks just like yours?
@@AutoEnthusiast Wider but less side wall. This Gen is known for a rough ride with 245 40s 18". 35 series is not for every day use. I hate to bust all your bubble but even 40 is at the threshold. 45 and 50 serious is for general usage for imperfections in roads, pot holes, speed bumps etc. I was thinking of going 35s on 19s or 18s but it would mean a show car not a go car. You cant drive around on those wheels and tires. You would need a 2nd set.
"love these wheels cause they are super cheap, but I broke another one somehow" hmm
I will take that quote to the grave - said my wallet
I mean if youre hitting crap all over the place somthing will crack lol
Unfortunately avids have a bad reputation. I've heard countless horror stories about them. Mostly the strength and durability doesn't hold up. I love the wheels on my Sti but in the spring I'm buying te37s or advan tc4.
GReat choice! Both on the list for me as well! What color are you going with?
Either white for the te37 or black for the tc4. I have a gray series sti and think the white would really pop! I can't wait. But replacing one of those if I have to is another story 😂
whats your wheel specs bro ?
What tire size did you run?
"I can't actually see where the tire popped behind it, but that's the only place that I can imagine"...buddy the air is leaking through the crack in your wheel...the tire never popped😂
Exactly my thoughts!! Lmaoo
@@Laborchet I just don't get the process behind that thought 🤣🤣
@@jonathanmoore7453 Yeah same. My guess is not a mechanically inclined person and when the tire goes flat they default to thinking the tire has a puncture to let the air out, but the air can escape through a wheel crack just as well. I hope they didnt buy a new tire, a new wheel is all they needed.
he's never owned a BMW M Coupe. talk about eating wheels...
That tiny crack made it unsafe? 😳🤔🤨
100%, legitimately a quick way to wreck
how often do you have to add air to your tires? I just bought my used STI '16 two months ago and had a PPI at a Subaru dealership, so at that time the air pressure was good. Is it strange that the air pressure sensor came on after two months? Thanks for any information. 😃
You should be checking your air twice a month for regular maintenance. Worked at Costco tires for 17 years.
@@judzonmamauag3207 thank you
Actually never, I have never had to top off my avid1's. Super bizarre I know. Everytime I check, they are great.
The weather can change your pressure as well.
I run wedsports and they're very solid.
of course they are, they are double, nearly triple the price from a well know Japanese wheel house.
@@K03sport ? Wedsports are not that expensive…
We’re did u find so cheap can only find 220 for 19…maybe cuz yours 18🤔
They just cost more now🤷♂️
I like your decklid spoiler. Link?
OLM carbon fiber duckbill!
Do these not have a warranty?
No wheels have a warranty, they might, but 0/10 will win a warranty appeal
Run bigger side walls like 40/18.
My current setup has the closet ratio to the existing wheel diameter so it won't effect my % change for speed. I have been considering it, but the few times I have had issue, a few cm's won't make the difference.
@@AutoEnthusiast just for extra layer of protection driving on bad roads. on my 2018 limited I ran 245/35/18 and ended up with a bent wheel.
@@AutoEnthusiast You can go with 255/40/18, thats my setup and wont effect your speedo. It makes your tire beefy and closes your wheel gap, so the rims look larger and car look lowered on stock height.
@@axeya366 will these fit fine on stock height with no rubbing?
@@tylerbriggs2229 Yes if you go with my setup at 255 /40 / 18. No rubbing. What is the width of your wheels/rims ? are you using stock or aftermarket.
That's why you don't buy china-made fake wheels! Fake parts break hearts.😅
What’s the name of them wheels?😊
Reps 🤮 just get gram lights or rays 😂
Cheap parts……. Probs why ur car always breaks and u make so many vids abt “what to know before modifying these cars”
uh? Can confirm nothing but the wheels on my car are cheap? Also define cheap parts, I will give you an insight on business, cast wheels are cast wheels, whether you pay $100 or $500 for them. High production, cough cough Avid1, ensures higher QA because the money is there to have it done. Cheap is an SEO term, nothing more.
This was very predictable and obvious from your previous video. It is best to truly know your product before you go on the internet and look a bit foolish to your 878 viewers. You think? If you cannot afford good equipement, do not go online and suggest your cheap stuff to others. It makes no sense.
hm, interesting comment. Sounding like a novice in the life of aftermarket wheels and parts in general. Get a few more years under your belt and come back and discuss. I am not trying to be harsh here, just frank. Also, buying "cheap" parts and equipment 1) nothing to do with affordability 2) a deep understanding of engineering, production, and manufacturing. A cast wheel is a cast wheel.
Such shitty rims why would you buy another one after it cracked . So dumb
so i don't have to buy 4 wheels?...lol
That's funny that I ran into this video. I recently bought a set of av20s got one wheel that was bent. So I sent in a warranty claim. Got the wheel in directly from avid. Now I have 3 wheels that don't have the stamp and one that does. So I'm going to try and get the correct one. @avid1