An important difference with light-weight wings that I have noticed is that is is much more resilient (and resistant, probably) to collapses, because of a lesser inertia: less wing weight needs to be lifted when reinflating. Don't you think?
Very nice review! However I notice that recently Flububble's reviews are about (higher) B-level wings and higher. I would very much like to see a Flybubble style review of the newest A-level wings, especially the light weight A-level wings as Skywalk Masala and Niviuk Koyot Plume. Would that be possible once?
Thanks Bruno, we review the latest releases, and many new EN-B wings have appeared recently. We include A-level wings in our mix, we covered the Symphonia (EN A) and Sonata (EN A) earlier this year. There's also new C wings to look at ... and we like to make useful instructional content for everyone. So many toys, so little time ;-) Thanks for your suggestion.
Great review Greg! Really liked the written comparisons to their similar wings in the class. Any plans to add the Skywalk Arak and Swift 5 to the review cue and also to compare to the Xi in the future?
thanks Jorge, Arak coming soon although we're a bit limited by lack of thermals this time of year so we'll probably send Carlo and Nancy to somewhere nice to review it.. let's see .. Colombia?
Hey Greg Can you tell me how many hours you think a person should have before they start hike'n'fly? I have only 2 or 3 hrs (a beginner week plus some). I want to go buy a really lightweight harness and wing and just go do it (alps).
Then you should take courses in a school in the alps. First fly on a site with well known aerology before to hike and fly. The conditions in the alps are quite different from flat land, you need first to get used to it.
@@olivierpercebois-garve5506 I'd second that. I appreciate you're keen Jumpleads, and that's a great thing. But don't let that lead you into trying to shortcut your progression. Absolutely not hike-and-fly (the way you're suggesting, all on your own, exploring) until I'd say years and years into the sport. (200hours+) If you're doing it guided (with an experienced hike-and-fly leader) you could do it sooner, but defo not in your first year or two. It's simple: you need to have a zero tolerance approach to risk, because one accident can end the sport for you. As much as I love promoting hike-and-fly, I'd say: go fly lots of known sites first, under guidance of locals/clubs/friends, so you can learn first hand how the air moves over different terrain, how landing fields work at different times of the day. Then do it lots in the Alps. Then do XC. Then do hike and fly. The only exception is winter hike-and-fly, which is far simpler: pick a light-wind sunny day, walk up something big, glide back down to the landing.
Great video and useful insight to this wing. I have been considering this model (hope to give a test fly soon) but I am worried that the weight ranges are not good for me. I currently weigh 71 kg and I’m afraid that if I used for volbiv I might be out of the weight range unless I had a super light harness (supair strike). What do you think? Thanks in advance!
personally, at that weight (that's me) I'd get a supair strike (why carry extra weight on volbiv?) and be a few kilos over the top, it's probably still a B at that weight (for the occasionaly volbiv) they just don't bother to test it at a range that isn't ideal. I'm assuming that for normal XC flying you'll be in the weight range. 23.7m2 is big enough.
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Greg Hamerton unfortunately that means the strike also for normal XC and I’m not sure such a light harness is ideal (I know you have praised the strike a lot). Main problem is that a setup for XC and another one for volbiv is bit pricey... thank you so much for the rapid response!
Hey Alejandro. You may already have heard Greg's podcast over on cloudbasemayhem. If not, I'd highly recommend a listen to that. I'm only a couple of kilos lighter than you and I fly the Iota2 (same weight ranges as the Xi) with the Supair Delight2. The D2 is about 1 kilo heavier than the Strike but I'm well within the recommended range 75-85kg for normal XC. The foam is easily replaced with soft bivvy kit if the space is needed. I've not done more than a single night out so far so haven't needed the space yet. If you are just worried about flying weight then I think it's not a problem as you can save quite a bit by rationalising other kit. E.g. my normal concertina bag is 600g but I've a home made one which is 200g. I don't wear boots (personal preference and I don't recommend if you like the security of boots) so that also saves me quite a bit. You can also save a lot with your bag. I have friend who made a superb bag which is about 750 g, much lighter than my 100 litre Advance bag. At 71 kg you've got 17 kg to play with and still be in he certified range. I wouldn't really want to carry more than that on a multi day trip.@
Hey Greg, what do you understand under "a few kilos"? My weight is 73-74kg and I have an advance lightness 2, I could win another kilo by buying a supair strike ;-). In normal conditions I'm at 85-87kg so perfect for the 23, but with all the bivouac gear I'm at 92-93kg. So what would you recommend? =)
@@greghamerton4422 Hey Greg, what do you understand under "a few kilos"? My weight is 73-74kg and I have an advance lightness 2, I could win another kilo by buying a supair strike ;-). In normal conditions I'm at 85-87kg so perfect for the 23, but with all the bivouac gear I'm at 92-93kg. So what would you recommend? =)
An important difference with light-weight wings that I have noticed is that is is much more resilient (and resistant, probably) to collapses, because of a lesser inertia: less wing weight needs to be lifted when reinflating. Don't you think?
Thanks for this review Greg , good breathe🙏
Very nice review! However I notice that recently Flububble's reviews are about (higher) B-level wings and higher. I would very much like to see a Flybubble style review of the newest A-level wings, especially the light weight A-level wings as Skywalk Masala and Niviuk Koyot Plume. Would that be possible once?
Thanks Bruno, we review the latest releases, and many new EN-B wings have appeared recently. We include A-level wings in our mix, we covered the Symphonia (EN A) and Sonata (EN A) earlier this year. There's also new C wings to look at ... and we like to make useful instructional content for everyone. So many toys, so little time ;-) Thanks for your suggestion.
great review guys.
nice review ! thanks
Hey Greg, love your video's.. any chance you could review the BGD Epic glider?? Many thanks
Great review Greg! Really liked the written comparisons to their similar wings in the class. Any plans to add the Skywalk Arak and Swift 5 to the review cue and also to compare to the Xi in the future?
thanks Jorge, Arak coming soon although we're a bit limited by lack of thermals this time of year so we'll probably send Carlo and Nancy to somewhere nice to review it.. let's see .. Colombia?
@@greghamerton4422 we may have to hunt down some thermals somewhere nearer and sooner! :)
The Swift 5 hasn't even been announced...
Id also like to see a swift 5 review
i wonder how you would compare it to a swift4
Hey Greg Can you tell me how many hours you think a person should have before they start hike'n'fly? I have only 2 or 3 hrs (a beginner week plus some). I want to go buy a really lightweight harness and wing and just go do it (alps).
Then you should take courses in a school in the alps. First fly on a site with well known aerology before to hike and fly. The conditions in the alps are quite different from flat land, you need first to get used to it.
@@olivierpercebois-garve5506 I'd second that. I appreciate you're keen Jumpleads, and that's a great thing. But don't let that lead you into trying to shortcut your progression. Absolutely not hike-and-fly (the way you're suggesting, all on your own, exploring) until I'd say years and years into the sport. (200hours+) If you're doing it guided (with an experienced hike-and-fly leader) you could do it sooner, but defo not in your first year or two. It's simple: you need to have a zero tolerance approach to risk, because one accident can end the sport for you. As much as I love promoting hike-and-fly, I'd say: go fly lots of known sites first, under guidance of locals/clubs/friends, so you can learn first hand how the air moves over different terrain, how landing fields work at different times of the day. Then do it lots in the Alps. Then do XC. Then do hike and fly. The only exception is winter hike-and-fly, which is far simpler: pick a light-wind sunny day, walk up something big, glide back down to the landing.
Just awesome 😎
Thank you!
That tail on your back does not affect the flight if the wind blowing from the side?
watch th-cam.com/video/6eeOKEmidIs/w-d-xo.html again Camo. The wind on the pilot is always blowing from the front. Always.
Extraño mi Omega 5. Aún lo tengo en casa pero extraño volar en él.
Very nice Video~!!!
Great video and useful insight to this wing. I have been considering this model (hope to give a test fly soon) but I am worried that the weight ranges are not good for me. I currently weigh 71 kg and I’m afraid that if I used for volbiv I might be out of the weight range unless I had a super light harness (supair strike). What do you think? Thanks in advance!
personally, at that weight (that's me) I'd get a supair strike (why carry extra weight on volbiv?) and be a few kilos over the top, it's probably still a B at that weight (for the occasionaly volbiv) they just don't bother to test it at a range that isn't ideal. I'm assuming that for normal XC flying you'll be in the weight range. 23.7m2 is big enough.
Greg Hamerton unfortunately that means the strike also for normal XC and I’m not sure such a light harness is ideal (I know you have praised the strike a lot). Main problem is that a setup for XC and another one for volbiv is bit pricey... thank you so much for the rapid response!
Hey Alejandro. You may already have heard Greg's podcast over on cloudbasemayhem. If not, I'd highly recommend a listen to that. I'm only a couple of kilos lighter than you and I fly the Iota2 (same weight ranges as the Xi) with the Supair Delight2. The D2 is about 1 kilo heavier than the Strike but I'm well within the recommended range 75-85kg for normal XC. The foam is easily replaced with soft bivvy kit if the space is needed. I've not done more than a single night out so far so haven't needed the space yet. If you are just worried about flying weight then I think it's not a problem as you can save quite a bit by rationalising other kit. E.g. my normal concertina bag is 600g but I've a home made one which is 200g. I don't wear boots (personal preference and I don't recommend if you like the security of boots) so that also saves me quite a bit. You can also save a lot with your bag. I have friend who made a superb bag which is about 750 g, much lighter than my 100 litre Advance bag. At 71 kg you've got 17 kg to play with and still be in he certified range. I wouldn't really want to carry more than that on a multi day trip.@
Hey Greg, what do you understand under "a few kilos"? My weight is 73-74kg and I have an advance lightness 2, I could win another kilo by buying a supair strike ;-). In normal conditions I'm at 85-87kg so perfect for the 23, but with all the bivouac gear I'm at 92-93kg. So what would you recommend? =)
@@greghamerton4422 Hey Greg, what do you understand under "a few kilos"? My weight is 73-74kg and I have an advance lightness 2, I could win another kilo by buying a supair strike ;-). In normal conditions I'm at 85-87kg so perfect for the 23, but with all the bivouac gear I'm at 92-93kg. So what would you recommend? =)
Con un lugar de estos, es para llevarse volando todos los dias
"Is the Advance XI paraglider too light?" No! :D