I river fish mainly with outings on Montana lakes situated just above Henry’s lake. Always used full sink with modified leader, leech patterns and bead head dropper. With this revelation, and of my move from ID to the Western Sierra Nevada, 5 lakes are within easy reach. I’m off in search of the big browns!
some of my best fish on an idicator have come on a long cast. It takes more concentration but being far away from the spot holding the fish really works for me.
Fishing henrys lake tomorrow 6/5/2023, watching this video for the 50th time trying to have a chance, phil is probably the best still water fly fisher active today...also just read bill schiess, book cover to cover in two hours, wish me luck!!!!
I don't get hows that fly fishing. You can do it with normal rod on a bubble float. What is the point of fly rod if you fishing with a float?maybe I'm missing something here
Using an indicator is just one means or tool you have to fly fish for trout on lakes. Their are other ways which you can review here: th-cam.com/video/sWsKH8mrCMk/w-d-xo.html
Very good video! I wished I had seen it before I went fishing in Swedish Lapland this summer. There were a lot of fish but picky. I will go back next year and use these techniques.
What a great video. I wish I had known this technique when I lived up north. No trout lakes near where I am now. But I imagine this would work with bluegill and crappie. I'll give it a try. If it works, I'll use it to hone my skills until I get up to the north country. Thanks for adding yet another technique to the bag of tricks!
Beautiful video, thanks Tom and Phil. That lake/view looks quite familiar 😉 Have driven this stretch of highway quite often. Stillwater fly is still a mystery to me, but I am looking forward to trying these techniques with my spin-cast friends as they rest from trolling!
Fishing a lot in the still lakes of Louisiana, I feel like I have been shooting in the dark. This is great and I will use the information accordingly. Thank you!!
I love your content, but I would love to see more bank stuff. I don't have a boat and don't plan on getting one anytime soon. So all of my fishing is done from the bank. I just started, but can't seem to find much of anything when it comes to fishing still water from the bank. Thanks again for all the great content!
Apply the same techniques to the bank. Find the contour where the trout are feeding and work depths. 80% of the Stillwater fishing I do is from the bank and I apply all the techniques he goes over to the bank.
I would love to feature an episode on high country mountain lakes but I typically use the same tactics as I would on lower elevation lakes with perhaps a bit more emphasis on some dry fly presentation using terrestrials, midges etc. Can't beat the scenery of an alpine lake too! Cheers Phil
Phil sure is an expert at his craft. Tons of useful information, as usual. hats off to Orvis and NFF for always releasing awesome and informative videos for fly anglers!
I think it comes down to the same reason people still bowhunt when we have rifles that can do the same from hundreds of yards. It’s just more pure sport and more of a battle between you and the fish
So great, just this past week ran into issue of a fixed bobber set so deep I wasnt able to land the fish, was wondering how can I adapt a bobber stop set up like when you fish jigs for steelhead... well this shows exactly how! Like ya'll read my mind. Now to find these bobbers...
They are sold by Cabelas but seem to be sold out all the time. Here is a link to Phil's store where you can buy them: www.stillwaterflyfishingstore.com/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=2
question. two types of leaders, one with strike indicator and the naked leader. seems like both will fish at depth, so when do you use one over the other? thanks
Someone may have already mentioned this, but how does one cast such a long leader? Did I miss something? I need that thick fly line to cast with and for me a longer leader means not enough line weight to cast.
Fantastic Video, and well presented Tom and Phil. Great information, and instructions. The video is broken up into key sections, which if you edited the TH-cam video to denote that in the timeline would be the icing on the cake.
Since you build the naked leader ahead of time and the 25% ratio is important, how do you account for changes in lake depth as you move around? Do you add or take away from the last section between the swivel and fly? If you do, won’t this mess up your ratio?
Hi guys thanks a lot for this info! The first section of your leader is 12 Feet and then you add another 3 Feet to the swivel, correct? Why not making it 15 Feet from the start if you are making your own leader? The only rational behind your explanation is that you bought 12 Feet leader, correct? Thanks for your help.
I watched the video again and you did use a 12 Feet tapered leader, but now I'm confused because in the beginning of the video you said not to use a tapered leader?
@@FlyFishingChronicles You are correct but I often use small barrel swivels when fishing indicators hence the two-step leader. The barrel swivel adds weight, rotates which helps reduce tangles, adds an element of attraction when fishing during a dense hatch, and acts as a stopper which helps prevent Quick Release Indicator loss in the event of a break-off. I like to keep my swivel about 2-feet above the point fly. Having a breakpoint built into the leader protects the overall leader and the welded loop of your fly line in the event of an aggressive breakoff. I hope this better explains things. Cheers, Phil
@@wvandenberg8172 The first leader I demonstrated, in the beginning, was for fishing indicators. It is critical that when fishing indicators the leader between your indicator and fly is level so it sinks straight below the indicator to the set depth. A tapered indicator won't allow this as it doesn't sink consistently along its length due to the differing diameter from butt to tip. I use small barrel swivels a lot when indicator fishing so that is why the entire leader isn't made of one length of tippet. I also like to have a breakpoint or fusible link if you will so if I get broken off I loose only the fly or the last section of the leader. The small swivel helps prevent Quick Release Indicator loss as one of its benefits is that it acts as a stopper. I used a tapered leader when fishing the naked technique, a floating line coupled with a long leader, and no indicator. The varied sink rate of the tapered leader helps slow its sink rate so I can creep small flies such as chironomid larva and pupa using a painstakingly slow hand twist retrieve at a consistent level. A tapered leader also helps to cast long leaders as the butt section gives the overall leader some backbone. When using this technique I am most often fishing in water 15-feet or greater so my overall leader is at least 19-20 long to start. The leader has to be slightly longer than the depth of water you wish to target to factor in the "droop" of the tapered leader as the tip section sinks faster than the butt section. For example, when trying to target 15-16' feet of water using the naked technique I am going to need a leader that is approximately 20-feet long, 16 x 1.25 (25%). I hope this better explains things. Cheers, Phil
This vid is brilliant. I'm new to fly but not new to fishing, and this has told me everything I needed to know to confidently target trout in our lakes here. Great job fellas!
This is not flyfishing! Might as well put a worm on the hook and let the float bobber do the rest. This is a total travesty. The sport has been corrupted beyond contempt!
Very good explanation of all the different techniques , still have at least three more months to try them out .
Thanks
Glad it was helpful!
Certain this is Henry’s Lake in ID! My backyard for 17 years. Excellent tutorial, many thanks to all at Orvis!
I river fish mainly with outings on Montana lakes situated just above Henry’s lake. Always used full sink with modified leader, leech patterns and bead head dropper.
With this revelation, and of my move from ID to the Western Sierra Nevada, 5 lakes are within easy reach.
I’m off in search of the big browns!
some of my best fish on an idicator have come on a long cast. It takes more concentration but being far away from the spot holding the fish really works for me.
Fishing henrys lake tomorrow 6/5/2023, watching this video for the 50th time trying to have a chance, phil is probably the best still water fly fisher active today...also just read bill schiess, book cover to cover in two hours, wish me luck!!!!
Thanks Phil. Great course on fishing Stillwater. Here in Canada, we have to learn fly fishing on lakes. 👏
What a helpful video. Tom and Phil look like guys that would be fun to fish with.
They are!
Phil is, not sure about that other guy
I took a class from Phil several years ago in Nor Cal. A lot of knowledge there.
Love these videos
Phil is awesome. Thank you tom and orvis
You are very welcome.
Absolutely amazing god you guys help me out a lot.
Thank you.
This was filmed inside my families cabin! It was great to meet yall and listen to y’all
Thanks again for letting us use your cabin that day. Mother Nature wasn't letting us go outside with all of that wind, rain, and snow.
Cheers, Phil
Y'all? Must be an American
@@jcoats5529 I’ve heard other nationalities use “y’all”
Can I have your autograph???
Knots create drift and lift. Regardless.
For all of us? Weird considering the vast majority of anglers can’t afford a boat.
I don't get hows that fly fishing. You can do it with normal rod on a bubble float. What is the point of fly rod if you fishing with a float?maybe I'm missing something here
Using an indicator is just one means or tool you have to fly fish for trout on lakes. Their are other ways which you can review here: th-cam.com/video/sWsKH8mrCMk/w-d-xo.html
This guy thinks everyone has a boat maybe give us tips for the shoreline
I learned more in this video than all last year. Thanks for the great instruction.
I just love watching people that know how to present and explain what they are passing on and they will always have my attention.
Absolute wealth of information Phil, thank you!
Very good video! I wished I had seen it before I went fishing in Swedish Lapland this summer. There were a lot of fish but picky. I will go back next year and use these techniques.
What a great video. I wish I had known this technique when I lived up north. No trout lakes near where I am now. But I imagine this would work with bluegill and crappie. I'll give it a try. If it works, I'll use it to hone my skills until I get up to the north country. Thanks for adding yet another technique to the bag of tricks!
I did not fish on lakes before but with your guidances, I will take my chances.
Novice at stillwater fishing here. Hoping to out these tips to use tomorrow.
Excellent job, clear, concise information by one of the top stillwater experts in North America. Thanks loads!
This video was very very helpful! Thank you so much
Beautiful video, thanks Tom and Phil. That lake/view looks quite familiar 😉 Have driven this stretch of highway quite often.
Stillwater fly is still a mystery to me, but I am looking forward to trying these techniques with my spin-cast friends as they rest from trolling!
Glad you enjoyed it
When tying two independent fly hooks can a T-Knot be used to prevent the hooks from tanging with each other/
16x1.25= 20
great video! Thanks Phil and Tom!
Fishing a lot in the still lakes of Louisiana, I feel like I have been shooting in the dark. This is great and I will use the information accordingly. Thank you!!
I love your content, but I would love to see more bank stuff. I don't have a boat and don't plan on getting one anytime soon. So all of my fishing is done from the bank. I just started, but can't seem to find much of anything when it comes to fishing still water from the bank. Thanks again for all the great content!
A bank ff video for pond/lake trout would be great.
Apply the same techniques to the bank.
Find the contour where the trout are feeding and work depths.
80% of the Stillwater fishing I do is from the bank and I apply all the techniques he goes over to the bank.
AWESOME ... Now do ADVANCED STILLWATER HIGH COUNTRY MOUNTAIN LAKES
I would love to feature an episode on high country mountain lakes but I typically use the same tactics as I would on lower elevation lakes with perhaps a bit more emphasis on some dry fly presentation using terrestrials, midges etc. Can't beat the scenery of an alpine lake too!
Cheers Phil
This
Believe it or not but trout are way catchable on the shore on lakes
Phil sure is an expert at his craft. Tons of useful information, as usual. hats off to Orvis and NFF for always releasing awesome and informative videos for fly anglers!
Thanks!
I might be confused, but why would you use these methods instead of spinning gear? Its all about the right tool for the job, no?
I think it comes down to the same reason people still bowhunt when we have rifles that can do the same from hundreds of yards. It’s just more pure sport and more of a battle between you and the fish
Great video, I'll try these techniques here in the UK when I get a chance.
Fantastic video. Thank you.
So great, just this past week ran into issue of a fixed bobber set so deep I wasnt able to land the fish, was wondering how can I adapt a bobber stop set up like when you fish jigs for steelhead... well this shows exactly how! Like ya'll read my mind. Now to find these bobbers...
They are sold by Cabelas but seem to be sold out all the time. Here is a link to Phil's store where you can buy them: www.stillwaterflyfishingstore.com/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=2
nothing better than seeing that indicator go under, one of my favorite ways to fly fish!
Rowley is a wizard
question. two types of leaders, one with strike indicator and the naked leader. seems like both will fish at depth, so when do you use one over the other? thanks
Just wondering, if we use spinning outfit and tie the same flies, what will be the difference? We can set up slide bobber for 20fts too, right?
Someone may have already mentioned this, but how does one cast such a long leader? Did I miss something? I need that thick fly line to cast with and for me a longer leader means not enough line weight to cast.
i appreciate the information.
Excellent video.
Great video. Very interesting and helpfull. Thanks Phil and Tom!
Glad you enjoyed it!
How are you supposed to see how deep it is to set your indicator if you’re on the shoreline without a boat
Fantastic Video, and well presented Tom and Phil. Great information, and instructions. The video is broken up into key sections, which if you edited the TH-cam video to denote that in the timeline would be the icing on the cake.
Thanks, ;-)
So when he said have ur leader level just use one size of tippet material?
Facinating
This is gold. I started fishing with balanced leeches last year. Has been a major game changer for me on lakes and ponds
Very informative, never seen a indicator set up like that. Can you get that strike indicators in the uk?
Not sure but you should be able to modify any indicator that uses a peg to keep the leader in place
Evidently Phil does sell them and will ship to the UK: www.stillwaterflyfishingstore.com/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=2
Thank you Tom and Phil for this video lesson !!
Since you build the naked leader ahead of time and the 25% ratio is important, how do you account for changes in lake depth as you move around? Do you add or take away from the last section between the swivel and fly? If you do, won’t this mess up your ratio?
*Meant to say 1.25 ratio
Thanks for the great video.
This man, is a genius...
What rods where used in the make of this video Helios 3 d or f and what length?
Helios 3F 10 foot 6 weight.
Hi guys thanks a lot for this info! The first section of your leader is 12 Feet and then you add another 3 Feet to the swivel, correct? Why not making it 15 Feet from the start if you are making your own leader? The only rational behind your explanation is that you bought 12 Feet leader, correct? Thanks for your help.
I watched the video again and you did use a 12 Feet tapered leader, but now I'm confused because in the beginning of the video you said not to use a tapered leader?
@@FlyFishingChronicles You are correct but I often use small barrel swivels when fishing indicators hence the two-step leader. The barrel swivel adds weight, rotates which helps reduce tangles, adds an element of attraction when fishing during a dense hatch, and acts as a stopper which helps prevent Quick Release Indicator loss in the event of a break-off. I like to keep my swivel about 2-feet above the point fly. Having a breakpoint built into the leader protects the overall leader and the welded loop of your fly line in the event of an aggressive breakoff.
I hope this better explains things.
Cheers, Phil
@@wvandenberg8172 The first leader I demonstrated, in the beginning, was for fishing indicators. It is critical that when fishing indicators the leader between your indicator and fly is level so it sinks straight below the indicator to the set depth. A tapered indicator won't allow this as it doesn't sink consistently along its length due to the differing diameter from butt to tip. I use small barrel swivels a lot when indicator fishing so that is why the entire leader isn't made of one length of tippet. I also like to have a breakpoint or fusible link if you will so if I get broken off I loose only the fly or the last section of the leader. The small swivel helps prevent Quick Release Indicator loss as one of its benefits is that it acts as a stopper.
I used a tapered leader when fishing the naked technique, a floating line coupled with a long leader, and no indicator. The varied sink rate of the tapered leader helps slow its sink rate so I can creep small flies such as chironomid larva and pupa using a painstakingly slow hand twist retrieve at a consistent level. A tapered leader also helps to cast long leaders as the butt section gives the overall leader some backbone. When using this technique I am most often fishing in water 15-feet or greater so my overall leader is at least 19-20 long to start. The leader has to be slightly longer than the depth of water you wish to target to factor in the "droop" of the tapered leader as the tip section sinks faster than the butt section. For example, when trying to target 15-16' feet of water using the naked technique I am going to need a leader that is approximately 20-feet long, 16 x 1.25 (25%).
I hope this better explains things.
Cheers, Phil
This vid is brilliant. I'm new to fly but not new to fishing, and this has told me everything I needed to know to confidently target trout in our lakes here. Great job fellas!
This is not flyfishing! Might as well put a worm on the hook and let the float bobber do the rest. This is a total travesty. The sport has been corrupted beyond contempt!
Whats wrong with his lip??
Might have got a hook stuck in it 👌😂
This crap should be called another drop in standards in fly fishing 🇬🇧🤦♂️😬
At least six inches can make SOMEONES day 🥲