This is an AMAZING interview! Yes please, MORE evidence based discussions! I looked at how long the interview was, and was unsure; but the discussion was so engaging, I could have listened longer! I have been carnivore for only 1 year and have overcome so many health challenges, and still have a long ways to go to be metabolically healthy. I think one of the key take aways for me is: have the patience to heal. The other is: get feedback from your body, ie blood work, etc. and ask questions.
Love this guy. One of his videos finally convinced my 70 yr. old aunt to take charge of her health. She's finally eating low carb and loving the immediate side effects of lower blood pressure. She had her lowest BP reading in 30 yrs after 3 days! I've never heard of that quick of a change in BP .
I am the same. At 67, I regularly register at 110/60 or less. My entire life, I was 120/70 every single Dr visit. At 60 ish, it started to rise...130/80. Went low carb 4 years ago and immediately dropped it. I monitor at home now with the machine the VA gave my husband. If I eat carbs, it goes up!
I have now watched 5 of your videos and they were all informative and helpful in my transition from keto to carnivore. I will say that these two videos from Dr Robert Cywes have been immensely informative and useful. I will watch them again.
Great interview. Would like to hear more about electrolyte issues. If the cause is more likely imbalance rather than insufficiency, what are likely causes of imbalance?
Great interview! I love it when carnivore diet is placed outside just weight loss!! This channel is one of most educational, informative and comprehensive in the carnivore space. Thanks for your work and all the information you give us for free! 💖
This discussion is awesome. I’ve become quite focused on metabolic processes and health so all this info about the interactions among various systems really tickle my neurons!!☺️
Such a brilliant conversation between you two!!! I REALLY enjoyed listening to your highly knowledgeable back and fourths. I love learning more about how to optimize my carnivore lifestyle. 😊
I assumed an electrolyte imbalance early on, but I later discovered that my foot cramps were actually due to thiamine--vitamin B1 deficiency. Supplementation with a bit of this vitamin totally cured these symptoms.
Well thanks for mentioning this because I've been getting leg cramps lately and I took magnesium and I continue to salt my water but I didn't think about b complex because I thought I was getting enough from my meat.
Just prior to watching this video about electrolytes, I watched a video about oxalates, learned that oxalate shedding can cause an electrolyte deficiency because the oxalates bind to certain electrolytes before exiting the body. I also learned that some electrolytes are a component of some B vitamins, and that a good B vitamin complex can help the body more effectively rid itself of the harmful oxalates, thus preserving the body’s electrolytes. I think that both B vitamin and electrolyte supplementation could be beneficial for the transition into the carnivore diet with reduced side effects. Also, gradually withdrawing from foods containing oxalates can also be beneficial to avoid severe side effects.
Have to admit some of the information is over my head, but I like the scientific discussion. I love both your channels. I did get some things to mull over from this interview. 17 months carnivore now, healing metabolic disorder/disease (RA). 15 months keto before that. Keep up the great work Judy, you are appreciated.
I take my hut off guys. I can say this two part series has been one of the best talks about carnivore I have the chance to come across. I follow a lot of you individually. Your discussion with my Dr Boz and Dr Robert are in my repertoire to listen again and again for my high meat-based way of eating. I’m a carnivore baby on my way to become a veteran. Thank you for your openness and real talk. It makes a lot of sense. We don’t know everything however, we get better when eating real food
❤️🥰. Great pair. So much information ! Seriously taking notes and will watch a couple times. And yes, an ah ha moment.... it’s not always a deficiency but quite possibly an imbalance !!! Makes so much sense. Example,.. I ate a bunch of dark chocolate,... and a couple hours later major leg cramps,... well it was the shift of Magnesium possibility trying to move the consumed sugar I ate,.. this caused the imbalance right ?? Love this. Fascinating.
I stop salting since Oct and my problems like leg crampings, heart palpitations, waking up to pee multiple times, popping blue veins and dry skin disappear. I stop using other supplements earlier last year. On this matter I agree with the Bear.
Had the exact same experience, went from salting every bite to not having any and I saw a vast improvement in leg muscles twitching, irregular heartbeat/palpitations, urge to pee, dry skin, inflammation on my knees, difficulty relaxing, puffiness. I considered adding magnesium topically for a while but didn't like the idea of being dependent of a supplement. It seems all that salt was depleting my magnesium/potassium hence some of these symptoms, this in in line with the idea of electrolytes imbalance rather than deficiency (fix through reducing salt rather than get more magnesium). My motivation was initially to not be so dependent on salt to make the food palatable, avoid messing up signals sent to the brain for hunger/satiety/cravings (you can calm down sugar cravings or hunger by eating salt during a fast, or at the opposite overeat salty food and I wanted to reset all that), enjoy the real taste of meat and have an easier time at intuitive eating (easier to know when hungry or not, satisfied/full or not).
@@Pwkoizoie thank you for your input. I'm going to try. I get cramps in abbs and calfs at night and sometimes while working. I do enjoy the taste of just meat. I take magnesium having the runs all the time. No it's not citrate. I keep adding more creating an imbalance makes scence. Thanks
Many notice the absence of body odour after switching to a carnivore (mainly meat) diet. Could body odour come mainly from anti nutrients (hard to digest) in plant food that end up raising intestinal permeability?
Great observation. I, too, have noticed I have no body odor since going carnivore. I also noticed my teeth stay cleaner. I'm guessing carbs/sugar causes funky body odor and plaque on teeth.
Seems a big difference between the healing phase conversation vs the healing phase carnivores - maybe video about learning when/what the differences are that we can recognize to pinpoint when one has transitioned to veteran ?
not criticism, but suggestions. Less 'ok's' and a bit more relaxed listening... And such appreciation for you ability to dig deep and help flush out what some ultimate truth may be.
@@NutritionwithJudy He's a tough one to interview as he will jump from one topic to another mid stream,, so I understand what you're saying. Also he admits he doesn't know the answers to a lot of things, but then seems to espouse to so much at the same time. I don't know if this is possible, and may have already suggested this to you,, but could you imagine having say him and Zofia from PkD from Hungry on at the same time and have an exchange of different ideas,, for instance high fat vs. low fat,, liver vs. no liver ( toxic levels of Vit A ) etc. I doubt I could pull it off, but it sure would be interesting to watch. I imagine that like presidential debates, there would have to be some ground rules set in place,,, like, no interrupting etc.. But I for one would definitely tune in to watch. Could markedly raise your viewership? Again, great interview!
Regarding electrolyte issues with nocturnal leg cramps, could SSRI’s be contributing to this? I’ve researched that Prozac can cause hyponatremia. I’m a veteran carnivore who’s had this issue since I began this WOE almost 3 years ago and having a heck of a time getting it under control!!!
"I wouldn't have clients if carnivore worked so beautifully.. Right?" Right! But that's the point: I'm afraid this may influence you a little bit, maybe having you say something you don't really believe just to make more clients. I'm not saying you would be doing it only for your own interest, because I'm sure you are a very honest person with good intentions, so you wouldn't want to hurt anybody. But so are the people selling wrong supplements. I don't think there are many of them willing to do harm, but they just don't think to be doing any. You see, having cured literally any disease I had in the past, and having seen so many people lately cure their diseases just by changing their diet, I'm a bit skeptical towards anybody who says a carnivore diet doesn't work so beautifully. I'm not saying it works for anybody, but for the vast majority of people yes. It does. That may be the reason you're focusing so much on blood work, because that shows something you can't even see or feel. If I needed any excuse to say what somebody is doing isn't working, I would definitely go see his blood work. You talk so much about vitamin A toxicity, but I don't understand how one would discover to have it only by blood work when the symptoms of a real hypervitaminosis are so self evident and, honestly, so severe. I hope I'm wrong on this one, and I think your clients get in touch with you because they don't feel well and wonder what's going on, but I heard so much talk about the importance of doing blood work and nothing about the uselessness of it if you feel perfectly. I've been on a strict carnivore diet for 2 years and 3 months now, and I feel perfectly. I eat organs, especially liver, heart, thymus. But, of course, most of the time I just eat fatty steaks, or lean ones with Irish butter, with some little fishes like anchovies every once in a while. I've never felt better in my entire life, so why would I need to do blood work? To me it's useless right now. If I ever feel something bad, and I'm not able to solve it with simple changes in the diet, then it might make sense. Otherwise, no. Hypervitaminosis? I need all those vitamins and minerals in the correct amounts, which are to be found in the natural foods. Of course, some nutrients may be of concern because present in less quantities, like iodine, vitamin D, magnesium, and that is when some supplementation would be beneficial. Having too much of the B vitamins is quite difficult since they're water soluble and the amount not needed by our body gets excreted through the urine. Have you ever seen the color of the urine turn green after eating liver? That's why it's happening. And vitamin A doesn't get stored indefinitely, because the body self regulates it just like it does with iron. Otherwise, the first thing you would see with people going carnivore would be iron overloads everywhere. Instead, it almost never happens and neither to those suffering from hemocromatosis.
Interesting...I began eating mostly carnivore/very low carb and have 1 hereditary gene for hemochromatosis..my ferritin number went from 157 to 125 in 3 months...go figure? My doctor just said, "that's nice."
@@barbaradearman5438 That shows that even what we consider to be purely genetic is instead always influenced by the foods we eat. Eating more meat, which has more iron, doesn't always mean you're gonna raise its levels, although one should with hemochromatosis. Ferritin levels, however, also indicate the grade of inflammation in the body, so it's not only a marker for iron status. What was your hemoglobin, instead?
I think he mentioned lack of utilization and that the landscape changes over months and years; so could be a long transitory issue but I am not sure. I use the form applied on skin two or three times a week. Sometimes I use a cup or more of epson salt in a bath; this lasts a while without symptoms.
What I did I cut my salt way back and my magnesium. Bam no more cramps. And I was getting in abbs and legs all day. So I though more was better , Dr said no. So now I salt just for flavor and do mag every 3 days. I do sub potassium citrate because I have low potassium and I can't eat 4 pounds of meat an day. I almost get 2 pounds. Female 129 . Hope it helps
Gluconeogenesis is demand driven. Why then if one of Judy's clients eats a big rib eye basted w/ extra fat, do they get very high blood sugar? Where is the glucose coming from?
I wonder if this means that as a carnivore newbie, having skewed glucose, BUN, and creatinine numbers is normal for the first 6 months to a year… I do fast periodically, and when I do, my sugar seems to improve… so the ‘fasting too much’ seems to apply more to veterans. All very good info
Great interview! But I still dont know what cause the pain in my legs now not only during night time,but during the day as well?Is it too little salt, or magnesium shortage?
2 1/2 years carnivore been experiencing nocturnal leg cramps almost the entire time. It’s becoming very debilitating with the lack of sleep I’m getting. I’ve tried so many things, sole, keto chow, calcium egg shell powered supps, mag spray, increased carb intake. I’m so confused and at my whits end 😢
It was great, however some of sciency language is hard to understand since they're not followed by examples or clarification, unless this conversation was for other nutritionists and nutrition scientists.
Amazing, Question Can old fat store allergies, losing weight can I still have reactions form the old fat stored from foods I can't eat now?. Like past drugies have relaps from fat loss? I worked with an man who used acid and he quit 5 years but he would have an occasional acid hit from fat loss. Can food do the same. Cause iys happening to me? Thanks
I'm not feeling that great on carnivore one month in. Drank watered down coffee this morning, I get sick from it sometimes. Can't sleep. Don't know what to do. More fat, salt or protein. Ate a teaspoon of raw honey this morning maybe its the hashimotos or adrenal fatigue.
why was the talk about salt and her patients cut out, I was waiting for the answer? how much salt do we need to really eat, also magnesium and potassium? or should we just eat our meat and fat and we are good to go? I take magnesium for my constipation and I can never stop taking it!
The ICMNI Hungarian clinic where the is also ongoing medical research advises to have salt to taste, whatever the amount. Heard from Dr S. Toth on YT interview. Of course this goes if one follows the PKD protocol.
Dr burg says add potassium for poop , we need 4700mg daily some more like me. You need to eat 4 pounds meat an day to even come close to 4700 mg needed. Look up Dr Burg
Have been on keto eating lifestyle for the past 10 years, primarily to heal 30+ years of hashimotos. Over the last 18 months have switched to carnivore to restore my health and have recently (last 6 months) have added in occasional low carb veggies, which still allows me to stay under 10-15 grams of carbs per day. Over the past 2 months, my body weight has been slowly creeping up.😳gained 8 lbs over my last goal weight. Any suggestions to tweak weight issue and release my body of hashimotos?
@@NutritionwithJudy yes this is where I get stuck on CV, slow digestion from low thyroid and low pancreatic enzyme output so eating fats causes chronic constipation. Supplements dont seem to help.
Off subject but what raw cocoa butter on carnivore. I mean eating it once in awhile. Is that similar to heavy cream? Are there any studies on it effects?
I've done this too. Switched to higher protein low fat and keeping calories low. I lost about a pound a week for the first 5 weeks but nothing for the last 2 weeks 😫
I've spent years playing with macros due to body building and doing comps. The body requires flux. Even during the final weeks before comps, I'd carb cycle. I doubt Ted, Rob and co are suggesting next to no fat, but lower fat and higher protein. Big difference. I have days where I cannot stomach extra fat, and other days where I have yoghurt, milk etc for the carbs. Then a week later, pass me the butter! Our bodies correspond to the seasons, the circadian rythm and the tides of the moon. We need fat at certain times, crave more protein at others. There are reasons for it. Plus, our hormones respond better to what they need. Even with body building, there is no simple formula to lose body fat. Or to build muscle. It is an ongoing process that needs constant problem solving. It is uncomfortable to be hungry, deliberately over eating, craving carbs, craving fat, eating on plan, reducing calories, adding calories, manipulating water and sodium. You can learn a lot from clean eating, NATURAL body builders.
@@NutritionwithJudy Not sure how possible it is really to eat just protein and zero fat if you’re eating meat anyways. Almost all meat has at least some fat to it if I understand correctly. Unless you were only downing chicken breast and lean fish like tilapia and the absolute leanest cuts of wild game, how could you possibly be missing the fat completely?
He says people on carnivore have lower T3 so surely that means Hypothyroid sufferers like myself shouldn't be doing carnivore (ive been doing it over 6 months)
I’m a carnivore for 5 yrs and in my 30’s high protein not super high fat and my cholesterol LDL is over 500. I’m lean, no history of FH or thyroid issues, don’t fast. No clue what to do or if it’s a problem.
I am 2 plus years and my also is almost 600. If your worried get an calcium scan. High cholesterol is actually an marker of great health. I also lost 40 pounds and working on last 10, don't believe main stream media, they want me on pills and do emergency heart drs. Don't believe them. Dr. Burg also covers heart issues with keto.
Cholesterol fluctuates daily and hourly actually. It's primarily a supply and demand driven system. I recommend watching David Feldman and his cholesterol inversion pattern presentation. Fasting on days prior to labwork will also affect lipid numbers
Same here keto for over 2 years and most recently turning to carnivore. My labs in December showed overall cholesterol higher than 400 with very low triglycerides and high ldl. I'm going to go for a particle test and see what's really going on. I've heard that large particle size is much better for your health than small particle size.
Is it always the case that you should cut back on the fats once you become a veteran carnivore (2+ years)? I try to be ~80% fat (omad of 2 pounds of ground beef or whole chicken + 1/4 pound of butter) because I have very infrequent bowel movements (above a week and still very little stool) and try to up my intake of fat to help with that. I would not want to do without the benefits of high fat (lots of energy, stable state of mind/no anxiety, no hunger, more relaxed/satisfied, easier to sleep). I like omad because i'm very focused on my work in the fasted state and could not imagine today going back to work feeling lethargic after a large meal. At what point should you consider reducing the fats or dividing your meals ? Other than looking for inflammatory markers on lab results, what to look out for ? And is the reason mainly under-producing nitrogen ?
Are you actually constipated and feel like you need to poop but can’t without a lot of straining or you just simply don’t have a lot of poop? If eating pure carnivore you can expect to have a reduction in waste because the body is using almost everything up. This is not the same thing as constipation.
@@RestorationAcresTN I used the term "infrequent bowel movement" instead of constipation for that reason, no straining, little waste for how long it's been. Just wondering if above a week is healthy / not indicative of a digestion issue. People usually do not report that low of a frequency although I've read it here and there.
I've been doing carnivore for a couple of months, lost 14 pounds while fasting at the same time, lately, I've been waking up in the middle of the night and binging on carbs, it's very frustrating, I tried taking mct oil before bed but it didn't really help Margaret Terrebonne
He made a good point. I shot and butchered a moose in Alaska when I lived there, and there was no fat that I saw. And that's a huge animal Maybe back in the days of mammoths and wooly rhinos there was more available fat, but even in Alaska, unless you were an Eskimo on the coast living off whale and seal. the inland Indians like Athabascans ate caribou and moose. And they are both deer. All hunter gatherers for a long time eat mostly lean. And there is not enough liver for the whole tribe unless you manage to run a whole herd of something off a cliff. We are thinking about human hunters as they were during the mega fauna years,, but much more of our history would've been lean meat.
I shot that moose in early September, so it had all summer to fatten up. If it had been a bear it would have been heavy with fat, having eaten berries and salmon. Med except for watching some Eskimos cut up a bowhead whale that they had just killed and drug ashore, I have never seen any wild game that was very fatty. Not like feed lot fattened beef.
@@ernestjahn6676 So no fat on the backstrap? I now remember the diet description was that natives only killed bears in the Fall, they valued the grease to get through the winter. I wonder if a ruminant like muskox or mountain sheep might be fattier.
Bears have a lot of fat in the fall. I don't know about musk or dall sheep 🐏 because I never butchered them. But there are a hunter gatherers today that are living off of lean animals like monkeys, and white fish that have very little fat. I think the point is that the protein is the most essential element, along with some fat and/or carbs for energy. Most of us are too heavy on the energy component. And we're not going to be hibernating or doing without food for the whole winter. Moose will feed on tender saplings, and caribou will paw their way down to tender grass to eat. But they aren't getting fat on those things. They're just getting by.
@@ernestjahn6676 When H/G's hunt monkeys, it is because the bigger game is gone or illegal. I agree that the prime need is for protein, but given that, humans will always go for fat preferentially, which is probably why the high-fat megafauna were hunted to extinction. Aside: from what I have seen in evidence, the Maasai are the fittest and healthiest African tribe, eating high animal-based diet, with whole milk providing critical fat to balance the high protein, and sporadic honey for carbs.
Are coconut oil or avocado safe replacements for butter as a fat source ? i'm trying to avoid hypoglycemic events at night (waking up) by upping fats to 80% of calories. Thank you
This interview is confusing. Just had an interview about the benefits of salt and that we need to add more in water. But this guest is contradicting many things Judy has said. Also leaner proteins that is also confusing because fat burns fat. Another confusing statement is to eat smaller meals a day ; diabetics can’t do that as it will keep our insulin high. And fasting , I have studied it and it’s beneficial to fast 18 hours a day . Dr Ken Berry and Dr Jason Fung talk extensively about fasting. This guests is really contradicting what other experts and Judy has said.
70/30 protein to fat or meat to fat? 100g beef meat has 25g protein, recommended protein intake is around 1g per kg body weight per day, a 60kg person would require lees than 300g beef per day. 100g beef has around 12g fat meaning protein to fat is 25/12 or 2 to 1 or 70 protein 35 fat whereas, 70/30 meat to fat would mean 300g beef to about 140g fat not 12g fat so do I assume you mean 70/30 meat to fat?
Why does my body seem to exude a smell, sometimes similar to what I eat? Also, I am wasting away. My nicely muscular legs have become like skinny sticks. I’m going to try to increase protein and lower fat. The body smell (and taste) actually started last year while keto. Started carnivore this March. Can’t sleep either. Bad DOMS and muscles are SO very tight.
I don't understand why he keeps comparing us to lions. Lions are carnivores, humans are omnivores whose closest genetic relatives are primates-- chimps and bonobos-- that are both omnivores that eat a lot of plants and fruits with small amounts of animal products. This doctor seems like such a major scientific intellectual, it seems odd he wouldn't know this. I can understand avoiding certain plant foods if they trigger auto-immune illnesses, but that doesn't seem to require any labeling of humans as being akin to lions. Indeed, the only ecosystems where humans consume mostly meat are cold ones where there isn't an abundance of plant food year round. Still, an interesting talk; he scientific knowledge of nutrition often goes way over my head.
Totally different digestive systems in primates compared to humans. If I recall we have different intestines. Google the differences. Also, just because a carnivore (ie dog, cats, humans) are forced to eat onmivore, doesn't make it so. I do think we are meant ro seasonally graze on other thing as amendments, not out out of necessity! Our fruits and veggies are completely different from what was available to our ancestors. Humans have domesticated and have changed these foods fornmore palitability, but some of their phytotoxins evolutionarially for repel pests remains and we are affected to them as well. Look up thenorigin of the carrott. Also, celery is toxic. I thought I had no issues to it, until I eliminated it and tried to reintroduce it to my diet!
This is honestly the greatest carnivore podcast I’ve seen. Thank you so much. Very informative. ❤️🥩
I can listen to this man all day! brilliant
I think one of my most favorite things about this interview is adding the phrase “It’s as common as rocking horse manure” to my quip list.
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Goes to mine too lol😂
This is an AMAZING interview! Yes please, MORE evidence based discussions! I looked at how long the interview was, and was unsure; but the discussion was so engaging, I could have listened longer! I have been carnivore for only 1 year and have overcome so many health challenges, and still have a long ways to go to be metabolically healthy. I think one of the key take aways for me is: have the patience to heal. The other is: get feedback from your body, ie blood work, etc. and ask questions.
Love this guy. One of his videos finally convinced my 70 yr. old aunt to take charge of her health. She's finally eating low carb and loving the immediate side effects of lower blood pressure. She had her lowest BP reading in 30 yrs after 3 days! I've never heard of that quick of a change in BP .
I am the same. At 67, I regularly register at 110/60 or less.
My entire life, I was 120/70 every single Dr visit. At 60 ish, it started to rise...130/80.
Went low carb 4 years ago and immediately dropped it. I monitor at home now with the machine the VA gave my husband. If I eat carbs, it goes up!
@@jellybeanvinkler4878 My aunt decided food was more important than health. She's back on the junk and taking meds.
@@podunkpretties sorry. That's sad
I have now watched 5 of your videos and they were all informative and helpful in my transition from keto to carnivore. I will say that these two videos from Dr Robert Cywes have been immensely informative and useful. I will watch them again.
Great interview. Would like to hear more about electrolyte issues. If the cause is more likely imbalance rather than insufficiency, what are likely causes of imbalance?
Great interview! I love it when carnivore diet is placed outside just weight loss!! This channel is one of most educational, informative and comprehensive in the carnivore space. Thanks for your work and all the information you give us for free! 💖
This discussion is awesome. I’ve become quite focused on metabolic processes and health so all this info about the interactions among various systems really tickle my neurons!!☺️
Such a brilliant conversation between you two!!! I REALLY enjoyed listening to your highly knowledgeable back and fourths. I love learning more about how to optimize my carnivore lifestyle. 😊
I assumed an electrolyte imbalance early on, but I later discovered that my foot cramps were actually due to thiamine--vitamin B1 deficiency. Supplementation with a bit of this vitamin totally cured these symptoms.
Well thanks for mentioning this because I've been getting leg cramps lately and I took magnesium and I continue to salt my water but I didn't think about b complex because I thought I was getting enough from my meat.
Agree. Have been able to almost completely stop electrolytes supplementation with a simple decent b vitamin supplement daily.
Just prior to watching this video about electrolytes, I watched a video about oxalates, learned that oxalate shedding can cause an electrolyte deficiency because the oxalates bind to certain electrolytes before exiting the body. I also learned that some electrolytes are a component of some B vitamins, and that a good B vitamin complex can help the body more effectively rid itself of the harmful oxalates, thus preserving the body’s electrolytes. I think that both B vitamin and electrolyte supplementation could be beneficial for the transition into the carnivore diet with reduced side effects. Also, gradually withdrawing from foods containing oxalates can also be beneficial to avoid severe side effects.
Have to admit some of the information is over my head, but I like the scientific discussion. I love both your channels. I did get some things to mull over from this interview. 17 months carnivore now, healing metabolic disorder/disease (RA). 15 months keto before that. Keep up the great work Judy, you are appreciated.
I take my hut off guys. I can say this two part series has been one of the best talks about carnivore I have the chance to come across. I follow a lot of you individually. Your discussion with my Dr Boz and Dr Robert are in my repertoire to listen again and again for my high meat-based way of eating. I’m a carnivore baby on my way to become a veteran. Thank you for your openness and real talk. It makes a lot of sense. We don’t know everything however, we get better when eating real food
Big respect and many thanks for both of you!
Whoa...this was amazing...you have legit become my favorite youtuber. You have amazing guests and ask great questions. I wish there was a part 3.
New to Carnivore, but so good to hear this conversation. Clearly as our health evolves we have to adapt.
Can't love this discussion enough, it connected quite a few dots for me that seemed unanswered by many.
very interesting, I am happy to now that there are doctors that support keto and carnivore diets
❤️🥰. Great pair. So much information ! Seriously taking notes and will watch a couple times. And yes, an ah ha moment.... it’s not always a deficiency but quite possibly an imbalance !!! Makes so much sense. Example,.. I ate a bunch of dark chocolate,... and a couple hours later major leg cramps,... well it was the shift of Magnesium possibility trying to move the consumed sugar I ate,.. this caused the imbalance right ?? Love this. Fascinating.
I stop salting since Oct and my problems like leg crampings, heart palpitations, waking up to pee multiple times, popping blue veins and dry skin disappear. I stop using other supplements earlier last year. On this matter I agree with the Bear.
You stopped all.salt?
@@becksbitofblue yes
Had the exact same experience, went from salting every bite to not having any and I saw a vast improvement in leg muscles twitching, irregular heartbeat/palpitations, urge to pee, dry skin, inflammation on my knees, difficulty relaxing, puffiness.
I considered adding magnesium topically for a while but didn't like the idea of being dependent of a supplement. It seems all that salt was depleting my magnesium/potassium hence some of these symptoms, this in in line with the idea of electrolytes imbalance rather than deficiency (fix through reducing salt rather than get more magnesium).
My motivation was initially to not be so dependent on salt to make the food palatable, avoid messing up signals sent to the brain for hunger/satiety/cravings (you can calm down sugar cravings or hunger by eating salt during a fast, or at the opposite overeat salty food and I wanted to reset all that), enjoy the real taste of meat and have an easier time at intuitive eating (easier to know when hungry or not, satisfied/full or not).
@@Pwkoizoie thank you for your input. I'm going to try. I get cramps in abbs and calfs at night and sometimes while working. I do enjoy the taste of just meat. I take magnesium having the runs all the time. No it's not citrate. I keep adding more creating an imbalance makes scence. Thanks
Wow ill have to try this
Great interview!!!
TONS OF INFO!!
You could barely get a word in edgewise😂🤗
Absolutely needed salt in the beginning. I quit salt . Fell apart until I added low salt back to feeling amazing .
Low salt is potassium citrate, it's not salt. I take it
I'll have to try this
@@becksbitofblue I get the 50/50 I think your thinking of noSalt
Love their Science talk
Many notice the absence of body odour after switching to a carnivore (mainly meat) diet. Could body odour come mainly from anti nutrients (hard to digest) in plant food that end up raising intestinal permeability?
Great observation. I, too, have noticed I have no body odor since going carnivore. I also noticed my teeth stay cleaner. I'm guessing carbs/sugar causes funky body odor and plaque on teeth.
Odor is caused by bacteria. Your diet changes your intestinal and skin microbiome, thats why the odor is weaker/less
Sometimes I had little bit of greens, it caused body odor but once I do strict carnivore the odor gone.
Body odor as yeast production. More carnivore=less yeast
this whole discussion is heavy i'll have to watch a couple more times to unpack.
Seems a big difference between the healing phase conversation vs the healing phase carnivores - maybe video about learning when/what the differences are that we can recognize to pinpoint when one has transitioned to veteran ?
Just subscribed. You are an excellent interviewer, ask just the right questions. 👍
"As rare as rocking horse manure". I love that quote. Great interview. Thanks 😊
not criticism, but suggestions. Less 'ok's' and a bit more relaxed listening... And such appreciation for you ability to dig deep and help flush out what some ultimate truth may be.
@@NutritionwithJudy He's a tough one to interview as he will jump from one topic to another mid stream,, so I understand what you're saying. Also he admits he doesn't know the answers to a lot of things, but then seems to espouse to so much at the same time.
I don't know if this is possible, and may have already suggested this to you,, but could you imagine having say him and Zofia from PkD from Hungry on at the same time and have an exchange of different ideas,, for instance high fat vs. low fat,, liver vs. no liver ( toxic levels of Vit A ) etc. I doubt I could pull it off, but it sure would be interesting to watch. I imagine that like presidential debates, there would have to be some ground rules set in place,,, like, no interrupting etc..
But I for one would definitely tune in to watch. Could markedly raise your viewership?
Again, great interview!
Regarding electrolyte issues with nocturnal leg cramps, could SSRI’s be contributing to this? I’ve researched that Prozac can cause hyponatremia. I’m a veteran carnivore who’s had this issue since I began this WOE almost 3 years ago and having a heck of a time getting it under control!!!
"I wouldn't have clients if carnivore worked so beautifully.. Right?"
Right! But that's the point: I'm afraid this may influence you a little bit, maybe having you say something you don't really believe just to make more clients. I'm not saying you would be doing it only for your own interest, because I'm sure you are a very honest person with good intentions, so you wouldn't want to hurt anybody. But so are the people selling wrong supplements. I don't think there are many of them willing to do harm, but they just don't think to be doing any.
You see, having cured literally any disease I had in the past, and having seen so many people lately cure their diseases just by changing their diet, I'm a bit skeptical towards anybody who says a carnivore diet doesn't work so beautifully.
I'm not saying it works for anybody, but for the vast majority of people yes. It does. That may be the reason you're focusing so much on blood work, because that shows something you can't even see or feel. If I needed any excuse to say what somebody is doing isn't working, I would definitely go see his blood work.
You talk so much about vitamin A toxicity, but I don't understand how one would discover to have it only by blood work when the symptoms of a real hypervitaminosis are so self evident and, honestly, so severe.
I hope I'm wrong on this one, and I think your clients get in touch with you because they don't feel well and wonder what's going on, but I heard so much talk about the importance of doing blood work and nothing about the uselessness of it if you feel perfectly.
I've been on a strict carnivore diet for 2 years and 3 months now, and I feel perfectly. I eat organs, especially liver, heart, thymus. But, of course, most of the time I just eat fatty steaks, or lean ones with Irish butter, with some little fishes like anchovies every once in a while. I've never felt better in my entire life, so why would I need to do blood work? To me it's useless right now. If I ever feel something bad, and I'm not able to solve it with simple changes in the diet, then it might make sense. Otherwise, no.
Hypervitaminosis? I need all those vitamins and minerals in the correct amounts, which are to be found in the natural foods. Of course, some nutrients may be of concern because present in less quantities, like iodine, vitamin D, magnesium, and that is when some supplementation would be beneficial.
Having too much of the B vitamins is quite difficult since they're water soluble and the amount not needed by our body gets excreted through the urine. Have you ever seen the color of the urine turn green after eating liver? That's why it's happening.
And vitamin A doesn't get stored indefinitely, because the body self regulates it just like it does with iron. Otherwise, the first thing you would see with people going carnivore would be iron overloads everywhere. Instead, it almost never happens and neither to those suffering from hemocromatosis.
I couldn't have said this better myself our minds think alike
Interesting...I began eating mostly carnivore/very low carb and have 1 hereditary gene for hemochromatosis..my ferritin number went from 157 to 125 in 3 months...go figure? My doctor just said, "that's nice."
@@barbaradearman5438 That shows that even what we consider to be purely genetic is instead always influenced by the foods we eat. Eating more meat, which has more iron, doesn't always mean you're gonna raise its levels, although one should with hemochromatosis. Ferritin levels, however, also indicate the grade of inflammation in the body, so it's not only a marker for iron status. What was your hemoglobin, instead?
@@DiarioCarnivoro Hemoglobin - 16.4
@@barbaradearman5438 That should be a little high but still quite good. Did it also go down over time?
So why do I get horrible leg cramps if I don’t supplement magnesium 🤷🏼♀️?
I think he mentioned lack of utilization and that the landscape changes over months and years; so could be a long transitory issue but I am not sure. I use the form applied on skin two or three times a week. Sometimes I use a cup or more of epson salt in a bath; this lasts a while without symptoms.
What I did I cut my salt way back and my magnesium. Bam no more cramps. And I was getting in abbs and legs all day. So I though more was better , Dr said no. So now I salt just for flavor and do mag every 3 days. I do sub potassium citrate because I have low potassium and I can't eat 4 pounds of meat an day. I almost get 2 pounds. Female 129 . Hope it helps
It could also be B1 deficiency
Gluconeogenesis is demand driven. Why then if one of Judy's clients eats a big rib eye basted w/ extra fat, do they get very high blood sugar? Where is the glucose coming from?
It’s to dam confusing,shouldn’t be so difficult to eat
I wonder if this means that as a carnivore newbie, having skewed glucose, BUN, and creatinine numbers is normal for the first 6 months to a year… I do fast periodically, and when I do, my sugar seems to improve… so the ‘fasting too much’ seems to apply more to veterans. All very good info
I fasted for a week before starting conivore.
Great interview! But I still dont know what cause the pain in my legs now not only during night time,but during the day as well?Is it too little salt, or magnesium shortage?
One problem is B12 needs folate . And carnivore doesnt have much at all. So B12 won't be used . 😨 I'm going back to a low carb diet.
Egg yolks and liver are both high in folate, from what I understand.
So, what to eat and how often?
2 1/2 years carnivore been experiencing nocturnal leg cramps almost the entire time. It’s becoming very debilitating with the lack of sleep I’m getting. I’ve tried so many things, sole, keto chow, calcium egg shell powered supps, mag spray, increased carb intake. I’m so confused and at my whits end 😢
Thiamine?
If it’s not lack of minerals how do we distribute the minerals in our body better?
I wish this was addressed. It doesn't help to know that only some parts of the body are deficient without knowing how to get the minerals there.
It was great, however some of sciency language is hard to understand since they're not followed by examples or clarification, unless this conversation was for other nutritionists and nutrition scientists.
@@NutritionwithJudy thanks
Amazing,
Question
Can old fat store allergies, losing weight can I still have reactions form the old fat stored from foods I can't eat now?. Like past drugies have relaps from fat loss? I worked with an man who used acid and he quit 5 years but he would have an occasional acid hit from fat loss. Can food do the same. Cause iys happening to me? Thanks
I'm not feeling that great on carnivore one month in. Drank watered down coffee this morning, I get sick from it sometimes. Can't sleep. Don't know what to do. More fat, salt or protein. Ate a teaspoon of raw honey this morning maybe its the hashimotos or adrenal fatigue.
Get her book and read it. It's the best book ever , she answers everything you asking.
@@becksbitofblue 10 months later and i feel worse. 😕 okay i will, thx.
I went on hrt in 2001. Best thing I ever did,and it’s made from wild yams inedible. Not mares’ urine. Estradiol / nori thendron
Fantastic!
why was the talk about salt and her patients cut out, I was waiting for the answer? how much salt do we need to really eat, also magnesium and potassium? or should we just eat our meat and fat and we are good to go? I take magnesium for my constipation and I can never stop taking it!
The ICMNI Hungarian clinic where the is also ongoing medical research advises to have salt to taste, whatever the amount. Heard from Dr S. Toth on YT interview. Of course this goes if one follows the PKD protocol.
@@pedrolavigne9718 thank you Pedro, I try to lisen to my body, I add salt to taste! I enjoy it very much with my meat !
Dr burg says add potassium for poop , we need 4700mg daily some more like me. You need to eat 4 pounds meat an day to even come close to 4700 mg needed. Look up Dr Burg
@@becksbitofblue thank you very much, I will definately buy some potassium and take the 4700 mgs! :) I like Dr. Burg he is so wonderful!
Have been on keto eating lifestyle for the past 10 years, primarily to heal 30+ years of hashimotos.
Over the last 18 months have switched to carnivore to restore my health and have recently (last 6 months) have added in occasional low carb veggies, which still allows me to stay under 10-15 grams of carbs per day.
Over the past 2 months, my body weight has been slowly creeping up.😳gained 8 lbs over my last goal weight.
Any suggestions to tweak weight issue and release my body of hashimotos?
@@NutritionwithJudy yes this is where I get stuck on CV, slow digestion from low thyroid and low pancreatic enzyme output so eating fats causes chronic constipation. Supplements dont seem to help.
Finally some fucking logic underneath this sanctimonious craziness!!
Off subject but what raw cocoa butter on carnivore. I mean eating it once in awhile. Is that similar to heavy cream? Are there any studies on it effects?
This guy...👍
I've done this too. Switched to higher protein low fat and keeping calories low. I lost about a pound a week for the first 5 weeks but nothing for the last 2 weeks 😫
Did you give up carbs totally ?
@@MateuszOcalictocozgineoDariusz I've been carnivore for 4 years.
I've spent years playing with macros due to body building and doing comps. The body requires flux. Even during the final weeks before comps, I'd carb cycle.
I doubt Ted, Rob and co are suggesting next to no fat, but lower fat and higher protein. Big difference. I have days where I cannot stomach extra fat, and other days where I have yoghurt, milk etc for the carbs. Then a week later, pass me the butter!
Our bodies correspond to the seasons, the circadian rythm and the tides of the moon. We need fat at certain times, crave more protein at others. There are reasons for it. Plus, our hormones respond better to what they need.
Even with body building, there is no simple formula to lose body fat. Or to build muscle. It is an ongoing process that needs constant problem solving. It is uncomfortable to be hungry, deliberately over eating, craving carbs, craving fat, eating on plan, reducing calories, adding calories, manipulating water and sodium.
You can learn a lot from clean eating, NATURAL body builders.
@@NutritionwithJudyI'm not no fat only lower fat...like 60g a day.
@@NutritionwithJudy Not sure how possible it is really to eat just protein and zero fat if you’re eating meat anyways. Almost all meat has at least some fat to it if I understand correctly. Unless you were only downing chicken breast and lean fish like tilapia and the absolute leanest cuts of wild game, how could you possibly be missing the fat completely?
Thanks again
He says people on carnivore have lower T3 so surely that means Hypothyroid sufferers like myself shouldn't be doing carnivore (ive been doing it over 6 months)
And how do you feel?
I’m a carnivore for 5 yrs and in my 30’s high protein not super high fat and my cholesterol LDL is over 500. I’m lean, no history of FH or thyroid issues, don’t fast. No clue what to do or if it’s a problem.
I am 2 plus years and my also is almost 600. If your worried get an calcium scan. High cholesterol is actually an marker of great health. I also lost 40 pounds and working on last 10, don't believe main stream media, they want me on pills and do emergency heart drs. Don't believe them. Dr. Burg also covers heart issues with keto.
Cholesterol fluctuates daily and hourly actually. It's primarily a supply and demand driven system. I recommend watching David Feldman and his cholesterol inversion pattern presentation. Fasting on days prior to labwork will also affect lipid numbers
Same here keto for over 2 years and most recently turning to carnivore. My labs in December showed overall cholesterol higher than 400 with very low triglycerides and high ldl. I'm going to go for a particle test and see what's really going on. I've heard that large particle size is much better for your health than small particle size.
Is it always the case that you should cut back on the fats once you become a veteran carnivore (2+ years)? I try to be ~80% fat (omad of 2 pounds of ground beef or whole chicken + 1/4 pound of butter) because I have very infrequent bowel movements (above a week and still very little stool) and try to up my intake of fat to help with that.
I would not want to do without the benefits of high fat (lots of energy, stable state of mind/no anxiety, no hunger, more relaxed/satisfied, easier to sleep). I like omad because i'm very focused on my work in the fasted state and could not imagine today going back to work feeling lethargic after a large meal.
At what point should you consider reducing the fats or dividing your meals ? Other than looking for inflammatory markers on lab results, what to look out for ? And is the reason mainly under-producing nitrogen ?
Are you actually constipated and feel like you need to poop but can’t without a lot of straining or you just simply don’t have a lot of poop? If eating pure carnivore you can expect to have a reduction in waste because the body is using almost everything up. This is not the same thing as constipation.
@@RestorationAcresTN I used the term "infrequent bowel movement" instead of constipation for that reason, no straining, little waste for how long it's been. Just wondering if above a week is healthy / not indicative of a digestion issue. People usually do not report that low of a frequency although I've read it here and there.
@@Pwkoizoie sometimes for me 3 days. I usually feel.if I need more fat to go but I have noticed not everyday anymore. Feel fine
I've been doing carnivore for a couple of months, lost 14 pounds while fasting at the same time, lately, I've been waking up in the middle of the night and binging on carbs, it's very frustrating, I tried taking mct oil before bed but it didn't really help
Margaret Terrebonne
Weird I was 557 lbs and had so many deficiencies informed by my doctor.
Makes sense to me. Obesity is an imbalance. Best of luck to u in ur journey to wellness.
@@arwenhardy1995 an imbalance of what?
How to achieve a balanced PH in blood?
Excelente. Gratidão
He made a good point. I shot and butchered a moose in Alaska when I lived there, and there was no fat that I saw. And that's a huge animal Maybe back in the days of mammoths and wooly rhinos there was more available fat, but even in Alaska, unless you were an Eskimo on the coast living off whale and seal. the inland Indians like Athabascans ate caribou and moose. And they are both deer. All hunter gatherers for a long time eat mostly lean. And there is not enough liver for the whole tribe unless you manage to run a whole herd of something off a cliff. We are thinking about human hunters as they were during the mega fauna years,, but much more of our history would've been lean meat.
Was it in the Fall? Many tribes only ate and preserved large game during the highest fat season.
I shot that moose in early September, so it had all summer to fatten up. If it had been a bear it would have been heavy with fat, having eaten berries and salmon. Med except for watching some Eskimos cut up a bowhead whale that they had just killed and drug ashore, I have never seen any wild game that was very fatty. Not like feed lot fattened beef.
@@ernestjahn6676 So no fat on the backstrap? I now remember the diet description was that natives only killed bears in the Fall, they valued the grease to get through the winter.
I wonder if a ruminant like muskox or mountain sheep might be fattier.
Bears have a lot of fat in the fall. I don't know about musk or dall sheep 🐏 because I never butchered them. But there are a hunter gatherers today that are living off of lean animals like monkeys, and white fish that have very little fat. I think the point is that the protein is the most essential element, along with some fat and/or carbs for energy. Most of us are too heavy on the energy component. And we're not going to be hibernating or doing without food for the whole winter. Moose will feed on tender saplings, and caribou will paw their way down to tender grass to eat. But they aren't getting fat on those things. They're just getting by.
@@ernestjahn6676 When H/G's hunt monkeys, it is because the bigger game is gone or illegal. I agree that the prime need is for protein, but given that, humans will always go for fat preferentially, which is probably why the high-fat megafauna were hunted to extinction.
Aside: from what I have seen in evidence, the Maasai are the fittest and healthiest African tribe, eating high animal-based diet, with whole milk providing critical fat to balance the high protein, and sporadic honey for carbs.
Are coconut oil or avocado safe replacements for butter as a fat source ? i'm trying to avoid hypoglycemic events at night (waking up) by upping fats to 80% of calories. Thank you
Coconut oil & avocado oils r okay, just not optimal, IMO.
Lots of avocado oils are rancid, be careful
This interview is confusing. Just had an interview about the benefits of salt and that we need to add more in water. But this guest is contradicting many things Judy has said. Also leaner proteins that is also confusing because fat burns fat. Another confusing statement is to eat smaller meals a day ; diabetics can’t do that as it will keep our insulin high. And fasting , I have studied it and it’s beneficial to fast 18 hours a day . Dr Ken Berry and Dr Jason Fung talk extensively about fasting.
This guests is really contradicting what other experts and Judy has said.
Meant to say Judy had an interview about salt
Can carnivore diet help CKD?
70/30 protein to fat or meat to fat? 100g beef meat has 25g protein, recommended protein intake is around 1g per kg body weight per day, a 60kg person would require lees than 300g beef per day. 100g beef has around 12g fat meaning protein to fat is 25/12 or 2 to 1 or 70 protein 35 fat whereas, 70/30 meat to fat would mean 300g beef to about 140g fat not 12g fat so do I assume you mean 70/30 meat to fat?
My meals consist of ribeye and an avocado or bacon and eggs and an avocado.
I could see Judy getting frustrated because alot of her beliefs were being corrected by a very knowledgeable DOCTOR.
My 16 yr old daughter has pcos. What type of diet do you recommend for her
Look into iodine
Search Dr Ken Berry PCOS he has videos
Cywes is a great guy with lots of info but interviewing him is like riding bull (or maybe a gnu since he is South African :)
And Judy rides as best she can!! 🤗🤗
Why does my body seem to exude a smell, sometimes similar to what I eat? Also, I am wasting away. My nicely muscular legs have become like skinny sticks. I’m going to try to increase protein and lower fat. The body smell (and taste) actually started last year while keto. Started carnivore this March. Can’t sleep either. Bad DOMS and muscles are SO very tight.
Please stop this diet and go to a doctor
Please stop this diet and go to a doctor
Sounds like you could be over training . Take some time off for your body to heal and grow/adapt .
I don't understand why he keeps comparing us to lions. Lions are carnivores, humans are omnivores whose closest genetic relatives are primates-- chimps and bonobos-- that are both omnivores that eat a lot of plants and fruits with small amounts of animal products. This doctor seems like such a major scientific intellectual, it seems odd he wouldn't know this. I can understand avoiding certain plant foods if they trigger auto-immune illnesses, but that doesn't seem to require any labeling of humans as being akin to lions. Indeed, the only ecosystems where humans consume mostly meat are cold ones where there isn't an abundance of plant food year round. Still, an interesting talk; he scientific knowledge of nutrition often goes way over my head.
Totally different digestive systems in primates compared to humans. If I recall we have different intestines. Google the differences. Also, just because a carnivore (ie dog, cats, humans) are forced to eat onmivore, doesn't make it so. I do think we are meant ro seasonally graze on other thing as amendments, not out out of necessity! Our fruits and veggies are completely different from what was available to our ancestors. Humans have domesticated and have changed these foods fornmore palitability, but some of their phytotoxins evolutionarially for repel pests remains and we are affected to them as well. Look up thenorigin of the carrott. Also, celery is toxic. I thought I had no issues to it, until I eliminated it and tried to reintroduce it to my diet!
Judy you are getting quite the education here .
😁👍👌🖖✌😎
oh screw this I'm going back to SAD
Hahah ray peat at least? Anything is better than sad lol
Why his "teaching" attitude? While she know much better then him!!!
Possibly the two most annoying voices in the world here giving me nightmares